It took me a while but I ended up using extra squidgy gummies for mounting the frame and some thick O rings for the camera mounting. I then ensured the cable for the O3 camera did not touch the frame and so far, my footage created using GF has been totally jello free. Rocksteady footage is excellent too.
I think I made the right choice with the mobula 8. It's on the edge of what's required to carry this vtx, but still seems much punchier than this, and pretty robust. Big respect for persevering with the soft mount!
I bought one shortly after release and had the motor wires go into the props because those had some slack, resolved that by just wrapping the wires around the arm once the cancel out the slack. Its seems like your later unit got now the motor wires held up with tape.
Another problem I had was that I bought only two extra batteries so 3 in total but that was not enough due to flight time so I bought two more locally from amzn and those were some older spec, had very thick wires on XT30 and also longer, than what came with the pavo pico from china, because of that locally bought ones don't fit well and there is massive wire slack sticking out and the wires dont really want to bend to fit into the whoop.
i heard recently that fuller color of plastic is more fragile it is so those transparent ones are much less fragile with transparent one without color is least fragile
I can't get this pico or the mob 8 to run past 1:30 of fly time. Any little throttle blip and the 03 cuts out. A split second below 7v and it is gone along with that recorded clip. Any thoughts? I've tried powering directly of battery lead and adding a cap. Running 525mah batteries.
I have seen so many mixed videos on the pico regarding Jello. Some people had no jello issues at all while others saying it is unbearable. Making sure the o3 frame screws aren't overtightened, making sure the camera cable isn't absorbing vibrations from the frame, etc. Soft mounting the camera seemed to help some, but not perfect. I imagine some loctite or a drop of glue to prevent screws from backing off is the way to go. I have seen some videos where the air unit having jello even on larger platforms, which some fix with a dab of glue behind the units lens ring. Not sure how that fixes anything though. Another guy explained he had horrible jello when he had his UV filter on and when removed it, no more jello. Maybe see if the camera tpm printed cover is adding to jello? I ordered one of these as well and hope to get it in the mail soon to test it out.
The issue might be faulty DJI O3. Mine Pavo Pico works great flown as a cinewhoop. Second, even slightly bent props or guards have an impact too. And out of factory you might need to straiten the guards.
@@MrTechcat Yeah, could be the o3 units being used. I have seen jello in o3 footage from a wide variety of content that some don't even mention. I would like to get a 3d model of the o3 top frame and look at adjusting the front mount to hold the camera using the silicone inserts used commonly in something like an iflight o3 drone. Once mine arrives I'll likely tinker with this. If nothing else, I'd like to get the o3 frame put up in thingiverse
You should deep dive in to the FC to see is there possibility to solder DC/DC converter feedback divider and make the VTX supply suitable for 1S Walksnail system. Would be a rocket with 1S digital.
@@big-smoke-rc Pavo Pico also has Walksnail version and is 2s version. My idea is avoid using heavy Avatar HD V2 vtx and instead hack HW to supply 5v to 1s vtx.
I bet the jello performance would be much better if it would be completely hard mounted. Not only the cam but also the O3 too. Had similar issues with bigger cinewhoops.
Is there a similar (but perhaps better) drone kit that you just mount the 03 unit to and fly? I have ELRS on my TX16, v2 goggles.. bought an 03 unit.. just want a drone I can fly/learn with that wont break too easily. Ideally a 2" or smaller that is ready to just add 03 on, has ELRS on it and ready to go? I need to learn to fly FPV as I have several larger kits (3", 5", 7" for my BMPCC4K camera), so thought something like this would be great to learn with (along with sim time).
Great review and like your tweaks too. I did the same and used ribber o-rings on the cam between the mount plastic and cameras itself. The cable going to the camera has a lot of input on video jello. Make sure that the cable is 'isolated' as much as possible also when coiling it up -no jello on my build
Hi Mate, My Pico burnt up today whilst trying to turtle over. It was simply upside down on short grass. Luckily both the battery and 03 air unit survived. It was the 12A version and I believe one or more of the esc's lit up. Probably why they have moved to the 20A AIO board. Let's see if BetaFPV come the party with a replacement.
Interesting, haven’t seen the jello issue in many of the other reviews. I wonder why that is. Also, the black ducts are always the most fragile, because there’’s a lot of dye mixed in with the plastic. Basically any other color will be significantly stronger, especially white and transparant.
@@sovalicacone1162 that’s incorrect. He specifically mentions and shows the isolators between the O3 mount and quad in the video. They’re definitely on there.
If anyone's trying to mull over which 03 micro-loop platform to pick up, I have the Happymodel Mobula 8 03, and I don't have any issues with jello. There are micro switches that are unavoidable in a platform of the size, but with Rocksteady or gyro flow, they are completely eliminated. Also, bigger motors, bigger props, more thrust. it's much more capable of freestyle. I ordered the flywoo naked 03 kit, and im going to attempt to shave 20g off thecdry weight to make it fly even better. 🤙🏻😎
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Naked vista is heavy enough for such a small whoop. O3 just isn't suitable and for the price why not a 3"?
@@MadRC I would really love your input if it’s worth doing?! I’m currently using the Pavo pico with 850hv GNB batteries that are only like 8 g heavier than the 450 supplied, and I’m getting a solid four minutes of flying easily now when before it would be 2:30 minutes at best(with that way I fly), now I can chase go carts about a minute longer than I did before
I am a beginner and have confidence problem flying as I am scared to lose it in the wind, or crash it. But looking at your flying (never seen you fly before but watched many of your technical videos on fpv equipment), my flying is not too bad for 15 hours actual flight outside and less than 5 hours on flight sim 😅. I was almost ready to give up fpv, but after forcing myself to fly a few minutes a day, it makes a huge difference to confidence controlling the drone.
Thanks for the review. Your tests regarding isolation really add value over all the other reviews. Are you going to compare it to the mobula8 O3 version? Especially regarding jello? Also there is an acrobee O3 version released recently.
Install the newest bluejay, but the 48khz version, they deliver it with 24khz use the lower holes of the camera, and activate the dynamic notch filters they was off for some weird reason and lower the dshot from 600 to 300 because of the f4 processor and deactivate gyro lpf1 (gyro rpm filter should/must be on). Video on my channel about how mutch smooth i got my pavo pico with and without stabilization, it doesnt mather i have no jello. PS: Dont use the crapy lens protector.
Good info. Appreciate the influencer reviews but I think the manufacturers are not getting useful feedback. Most of these guys do great reviews but they tend to scratch the surface. It take time and interest to really dig in, they have to churn out videos... but I do appreciate what they do...
I have it, didn't like it. Very short fly time, heavy, bad outside. Took out my 03 and up it into Flywoo long range, haven't tried this one yet. And I've broken one of the prop guards somehow with no hard crushes. Flimsy frame.
@@MadRCin anther review someone mounted 4 blade 45mm props and said that it got rid of the jello! I’ve searched high/low to find a 4-blade 45mm props and couldn’t not find them anywhere. There was a set on a Chinese site, but after a few days after ordering them, they emailed me back telling me that they are no longer in stock and not carry them any longer. Looking forward to the flywoo light kit build version of the Pavo Pico
@@MadRCwill the Flywoo O3 unit fit in the frame that comes with the Pavo Pico. Debating of getting the Flywoo lite version myself but not sure if it isn’t to small for the frame.
First of all thank you for your review 🙏 appreciated, second there is nothing new about betafpv , always have jello, i have 95x v3 and pavo 25 both have same issue
As someone who wants to use this drone for video/film making, that jelly is absolutely unacceptable. Very unfortunate as I do like this thing and was hoping to pick one up.
This is the most jello I've seen in any Pavo Pico vid. Most of them are extremely smooth
It took me a while but I ended up using extra squidgy gummies for mounting the frame and some thick O rings for the camera mounting. I then ensured the cable for the O3 camera did not touch the frame and so far, my footage created using GF has been totally jello free. Rocksteady footage is excellent too.
i heard that the cam cable touching the frame could be the reason of the jello, mine personally doesnt have jello
I think I made the right choice with the mobula 8. It's on the edge of what's required to carry this vtx, but still seems much punchier than this, and pretty robust.
Big respect for persevering with the soft mount!
I bought one shortly after release and had the motor wires go into the props because those had some slack, resolved that by just wrapping the wires around the arm once the cancel out the slack.
Its seems like your later unit got now the motor wires held up with tape.
Another problem I had was that I bought only two extra batteries so 3 in total but that was not enough due to flight time so I bought two more locally from amzn and those were some older spec, had very thick wires on XT30 and also longer, than what came with the pavo pico from china, because of that locally bought ones don't fit well and there is massive wire slack sticking out and the wires dont really want to bend to fit into the whoop.
i heard recently that fuller color of plastic is more fragile it is so those transparent ones are much less fragile with transparent one without color is least fragile
After seeing your jello i am glad i got the mobula 8 o3. Almost no jello at all. Pre installed and flies way better with more power.
There is now a "Batch 2" version of the Pavo Pico that comes with a new 2-3s 20A AIO board. Those started shipping this month
Yea that’s really frustrating they do this. .
@@MadRCthat’s what I said on Reddit then I got shit on “They can’t Improve and innovate just because they release something??”
Nice, have my money 😅
@@MadRCIt’s frustrating when they improve a product?
That’s a rather backwards point of view.
I can't get this pico or the mob 8 to run past 1:30 of fly time. Any little throttle blip and the 03 cuts out. A split second below 7v and it is gone along with that recorded clip. Any thoughts? I've tried powering directly of battery lead and adding a cap. Running 525mah batteries.
I have seen so many mixed videos on the pico regarding Jello. Some people had no jello issues at all while others saying it is unbearable. Making sure the o3 frame screws aren't overtightened, making sure the camera cable isn't absorbing vibrations from the frame, etc. Soft mounting the camera seemed to help some, but not perfect. I imagine some loctite or a drop of glue to prevent screws from backing off is the way to go. I have seen some videos where the air unit having jello even on larger platforms, which some fix with a dab of glue behind the units lens ring. Not sure how that fixes anything though. Another guy explained he had horrible jello when he had his UV filter on and when removed it, no more jello. Maybe see if the camera tpm printed cover is adding to jello? I ordered one of these as well and hope to get it in the mail soon to test it out.
The issue might be faulty DJI O3. Mine Pavo Pico works great flown as a cinewhoop.
Second, even slightly bent props or guards have an impact too. And out of factory you might need to straiten the guards.
@@MrTechcat Yeah, could be the o3 units being used. I have seen jello in o3 footage from a wide variety of content that some don't even mention. I would like to get a 3d model of the o3 top frame and look at adjusting the front mount to hold the camera using the silicone inserts used commonly in something like an iflight o3 drone. Once mine arrives I'll likely tinker with this. If nothing else, I'd like to get the o3 frame put up in thingiverse
I may have heard that said about yourself, I thought Top of the Pops was starting at one point!
Sorry quick question, which versión I need to buy to bind it with the dji controller ? Elrs and tbs are the options available
If you have the dji fpv controller 2 you can bind to the vtx (dji o3) directly. ELRS and TBS are for different controllers.
Hello. In your opinion is flylens 75 better than pavo pico?
You should deep dive in to the FC to see is there possibility to solder DC/DC converter feedback divider and make the VTX supply suitable for 1S Walksnail system. Would be a rocket with 1S digital.
Mobula 8 has a Walksnail version, buts it's 2s.
@@big-smoke-rc Pavo Pico also has Walksnail version and is 2s version. My idea is avoid using heavy Avatar HD V2 vtx and instead hack HW to supply 5v to 1s vtx.
It's too heavy for good 1S.
@@big-smoke-rcso we’re back where we started?
@@KOrnhOliO1 he saying he would like to use 2s batteries, but 1S transmitter
I bet the jello performance would be much better if it would be completely hard mounted. Not only the cam but also the O3 too. Had similar issues with bigger cinewhoops.
Is there a similar (but perhaps better) drone kit that you just mount the 03 unit to and fly? I have ELRS on my TX16, v2 goggles.. bought an 03 unit.. just want a drone I can fly/learn with that wont break too easily. Ideally a 2" or smaller that is ready to just add 03 on, has ELRS on it and ready to go? I need to learn to fly FPV as I have several larger kits (3", 5", 7" for my BMPCC4K camera), so thought something like this would be great to learn with (along with sim time).
Great review and like your tweaks too. I did the same and used ribber o-rings on the cam between the mount plastic and cameras itself. The cable going to the camera has a lot of input on video jello. Make sure that the cable is 'isolated' as much as possible also when coiling it up -no jello on my build
Hi Mate, My Pico burnt up today whilst trying to turtle over. It was simply upside down on short grass. Luckily both the battery and 03 air unit survived. It was the 12A version and I believe one or more of the esc's lit up. Probably why they have moved to the 20A AIO board. Let's see if BetaFPV come the party with a replacement.
Let me know how you get on with them
👍
Interesting, haven’t seen the jello issue in many of the other reviews. I wonder why that is.
Also, the black ducts are always the most fragile, because there’’s a lot of dye mixed in with the plastic.
Basically any other color will be significantly stronger, especially white and transparant.
He didn't assemble it correcty. You get rubber washers to put between o3 mount and the frame.
@@sovalicacone1162 that’s incorrect. He specifically mentions and shows the isolators between the O3 mount and quad in the video. They’re definitely on there.
Pico can be jello free. It just needs free up vtx frame screws and do balancing for props (CW rotation only).
Could I mount a naked gopro to one of these?
Please create video step by step binding pavo pico elrs to radiomaster boxer elrs. its been two weeks i still cant bind pavo with boxer
Hi Ian - The RX range, how far was your TX to RX range? Thank you 👊👍👍
If anyone's trying to mull over which 03 micro-loop platform to pick up, I have the Happymodel Mobula 8 03, and I don't have any issues with jello. There are micro switches that are unavoidable in a platform of the size, but with Rocksteady or gyro flow, they are completely eliminated. Also, bigger motors, bigger props, more thrust. it's much more capable of freestyle. I ordered the flywoo naked 03 kit, and im going to attempt to shave 20g off thecdry weight to make it fly even better. 🤙🏻😎
Naked vista is heavy enough for such a small whoop. O3 just isn't suitable and for the price why not a 3"?
I have done the naked O3 mod tonight and it’s just 18g
@@MadRC I would really love your input if it’s worth doing?! I’m currently using the Pavo pico with 850hv GNB batteries that are only like 8 g heavier than the 450 supplied, and I’m getting a solid four minutes of flying easily now when before it would be 2:30 minutes at best(with that way I fly), now I can chase go carts about a minute longer than I did before
iflight released a defender16 and will be interested to see how it compares to pico and mob8 o3.
defender16 price is way the two tinywhoops
Beautiful place to fly and beautiful usic
14:50 I like the flow :)
Oh yes! Can’t wait for the O3 Lite Unit to be tested!! 😎
I am a beginner and have confidence problem flying as I am scared to lose it in the wind, or crash it. But looking at your flying (never seen you fly before but watched many of your technical videos on fpv equipment), my flying is not too bad for 15 hours actual flight outside and less than 5 hours on flight sim 😅. I was almost ready to give up fpv, but after forcing myself to fly a few minutes a day, it makes a huge difference to confidence controlling the drone.
Thanks for the review. Your tests regarding isolation really add value over all the other reviews. Are you going to compare it to the mobula8 O3 version? Especially regarding jello? Also there is an acrobee O3 version released recently.
Install the newest bluejay, but the 48khz version, they deliver it with 24khz use the lower holes of the camera, and activate the dynamic notch filters they was off for some weird reason and lower the dshot from 600 to 300 because of the f4 processor and deactivate gyro lpf1 (gyro rpm filter should/must be on). Video on my channel about how mutch smooth i got my pavo pico with and without stabilization, it doesnt mather i have no jello.
PS: Dont use the crapy lens protector.
Good info. Appreciate the influencer reviews but I think the manufacturers are not getting useful feedback. Most of these guys do great reviews but they tend to scratch the surface. It take time and interest to really dig in, they have to churn out videos... but I do appreciate what they do...
Yada Yada, thanks for adding valuable tuning tips, using...
@@DeyRonUSAusing what?
@@TomeiFPV your tuning tips, thanks
It's in my bucket list. Will be building one very soon.
Good Luck
If you can add chapter markers it really helps I think. Cheers for the vids!
I have it, didn't like it. Very short fly time, heavy, bad outside. Took out my 03 and up it into Flywoo long range, haven't tried this one yet.
And I've broken one of the prop guards somehow with no hard crushes. Flimsy frame.
Awesome flying and review, Ian! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
love the review & the Tee 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Nice review. Tell you put extra time and thought into this one......
Plz build
Pavo 25 sub 250g walksnail / tbs
Bitte
Can you use the DJI controller through the air unit like a normal quad? Or would I have to get a real transmitter?
You may use the DJI controller 2 OR go with the Express (or TBS if ordered).
I've gone with the DJI and it worked for me perfectly.
This would be fire with the flywoo ultra o3
Flywoo making their own in 2" with the o3 lite
@@divingfalconfpv4602 but thats not 2 inch
its the props. the props need to be 100% perfect.
It was doing it brand new. My initial flight with zero crashes or anything it was still bad so either the props are badly made or it’s something else.
@@MadRCin anther review someone mounted 4 blade 45mm props and said that it got rid of the jello!
I’ve searched high/low to find a 4-blade 45mm props and couldn’t not find them anywhere. There was a set on a Chinese site, but after a few days after ordering them, they emailed me back telling me that they are no longer in stock and not carry them any longer.
Looking forward to the flywoo light kit build version of the Pavo Pico
@@samavella8831 I’m building it as I write this
@@MadRCwill the Flywoo O3 unit fit in the frame that comes with the Pavo Pico. Debating of getting the Flywoo lite version myself but not sure if it isn’t to small for the frame.
@@samavella8831”not carry them anymore” that’s such a Chinese site reply
First of all thank you for your review 🙏 appreciated, second there is nothing new about betafpv , always have jello, i have 95x v3 and pavo 25 both have same issue
As someone who wants to use this drone for video/film making, that jelly is absolutely unacceptable.
Very unfortunate as I do like this thing and was hoping to pick one up.
tried everything? "ND Filter?"
Prefert the Mobula 8 HD !
se ve como el pico xd