Perfect review! We think you hit the nail right on the head with our F-Specs. We slot them as our "comfort" focused option, and recognize that the softer spring rates and valving aren't going to be the all out best option for performance or track driving. We've leaned into the "daily driver" or OEM-like ride quality, making them specific for drivers who simply want to add adjustable ride height without sacrificing comfort. Shameless recommendation, FactionFab also has FL-Specs for a street performance option, or FR-Spec for a more track focused setup if you want more out of your coilovers!
I know this comment is 2 months late but how much lift do your kits offer? I am hoping for my 2023 GR86 when it comes in to do more of a street/rally setup with larger tires and more ground clearance. So far my attempts to locate a TRD rally coilover set have failed so I am looking for back up opitions.
@@mvp3100 We don't offer camber plates for our F-Spec as it's goal is simple height adjustment and ride comfort. I'd recommend you make the jump up to the FL-Specs if you are after camber plates, that coilover is usually a better fit for customers who are looking to have additional camber adjustment and performance.
If you're just trying to get low and are all about the aesthetics then I can definitely see this price point over Spring/Shocks... but suspension is a part that is used literally at all times regardless if you're driving aggressively or daily driving. The problem is... everything in your car is an investment. You're going to keep your car for a long time... you don't have to make all your mods at one time. Take your time... space out your mods but get GOOD mods.
Eh... I wouldn't say everything in your car is an investment. Most of time, cars are not an investment especially when you start modifying them. I do get what you mean though. If you plan on keeping the car for a while it makes sense, but in this day and age people usually only keep cars for a few years and then part them out.
@@KevinVo sure, but having crappy suspension can take away the enjoyment of driving the car itself or worse cause the car to have snappy characteristics that can potentially endanger the occupants or others around. It's a slippery-slope argument though because the extreme side of things is going overkill on suspension and getting 3-Way adjustable coilovers for a daily driver. I'm just a suspension guy who once upon a time drove with shitty suspension before someone showed me what good suspension was like.
I bought a new set of Fortune Auto 500s. I know a lot of people who love them. Not for me. Learned a valuable lesson, buy once cry once. Nitrons here I come 🙂
I think a really good $700 - $900 option purely based on how frequently I see the community use it plus the quality of JDM is Teinz. Can't go wrong with Teinz for that price point. It also comes with camber adjustability too I believe. I was hoping you were going to reveal that the GR86 got some Teinz parts available now too lol. Overall though great video, great review as always! Random question Kevin, so the GR86 is also your own personal car along with the track FRS (GR being the daily)?
Can you make a video around just buying springs for the care with everything else stock? I’m leaning more towards some springs just cuz they cheaper and still adds a nice drop effect on the car.
Did you end up getting the FL spec? Im leaning more towards the F spec since for right now im just going for the lowered look and daily driving the car
probably going to go with hks hipermax s. looking for something that wont stiffen up as much in the winter as the stock coils do and that will hold up to that salt
That colour looks pretty good man! I've got a white one coming but I guess with it's epic design, it doesn't matter what colour you get, it's going to look great!
@@KevinVo fun fact I was going to get a red one but all the red cars in my area get keyed and my friends car which is a brand new 2023 civic touring got keyed :( jealous people ruin everything, so I went with a white but in the end you can always get a wrap
The pop at 13:38 - did you notice this type of popping when downshifting with the stock exhaust too? I definitely hear what sounds very metallic with mine but I think it's just normal backfiring travelling through all of the stock muffling.
What were the toe plates that were installed in this video? They looked like bolts, but I can't find anything out there called a "toe plate" And is this a budget option to get some adjustment?
Without camber plates, that is a hard sale. If someone was looking for a cheaper solution and needed to save money, I would tell them to get some Konis and a camber plate. It would give you a better ride and camber adjustment for autoX or just fun driving. A lot of the Konis now come with lowering perches.
Raceland makes awesome coilovers. Don’t sleep on them they get the price down because they sell directly and there are no resellers. They’re better than the ones in this video no doubt
Pay $200 more and get quality stuff from MeisterR with their mono tube CRD line. Designed and assembled in UK. Last at least 36k hard miles with no degradation in ride quality and control. I sold the car.
Gee if they had only gone with a double wisbone when they built the damn thing. But that is Subaru for you the cheaper the better. Enjoy your channel and that is one shiny garage.
Springs are an option as well, but usually don't lower the car as much as some people would like. I like having the ability to set it myself. I wouldn't say there ruined the ride quality at all.
I bought $800 coilovers once... way to much work to get them "right", then the adjustments came loose on a couple, while the others rusted up. and the ride was terrible.
What???? No Raceland??? is not JDM if is not lowered on Raceland. Edit: all kidding aside, suspension is something I would not change on my 86 cause this rides so much better than my old FRS
I personally like the stock wheel height but I'm a rally guy so I like everything high. Which if I get one of these cars Its becoming a rally car for sure.
Not going to lie, just stick to stock and save up for better coilovers, $1200-1500. No need for top ends coilovers. Can see the jittery from your shirt in that drive. Might as well buy lowering springs than this $800 coilovers.
I bought 1000$ coilovers, they don't really work, for 4000$ you can actually upgrade the car. I would replace the Torsen open differential before coilovers.
@@KevinVo If you want to put some real tires on like 255 200TW it's going to be a mess with 1k coilovers + open diff. When I say don't work I mean the car will be unstable.
That's completely subjective though. A lot of people find enjoyment in modifying their car. It's a part of the process. You can also improve the performance of the car if done right.
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Perfect review! We think you hit the nail right on the head with our F-Specs. We slot them as our "comfort" focused option, and recognize that the softer spring rates and valving aren't going to be the all out best option for performance or track driving. We've leaned into the "daily driver" or OEM-like ride quality, making them specific for drivers who simply want to add adjustable ride height without sacrificing comfort.
Shameless recommendation, FactionFab also has FL-Specs for a street performance option, or FR-Spec for a more track focused setup if you want more out of your coilovers!
Truly am impressed with the value that you get out of these sub $1,000 coilovers. Thank you for providing a variety of different options for us!
I know this comment is 2 months late but how much lift do your kits offer? I am hoping for my 2023 GR86 when it comes in to do more of a street/rally setup with larger tires and more ground clearance. So far my attempts to locate a TRD rally coilover set have failed so I am looking for back up opitions.
@@Hybris51129 We don't typically recommend lifting above stock height on our coilovers since they are not designed to suit off-road applications.
@@factionfab5834 can I get the f spec with Chamber plates?
@@mvp3100 We don't offer camber plates for our F-Spec as it's goal is simple height adjustment and ride comfort. I'd recommend you make the jump up to the FL-Specs if you are after camber plates, that coilover is usually a better fit for customers who are looking to have additional camber adjustment and performance.
How can you have less than 10k subs? Jesus this channel is pure gold, awesome photography overall, great contents and tuts are incredibly well done
We're getting there! Really appreciate the love and support! Thanks for watching!
just subscribed bc this comment, been seeing his vids on my feed for awhile and i like the content. Might as well give him the sub
lighting and shop cleanliness is insane!! dream spot to work on cars!
It really is!
If you're just trying to get low and are all about the aesthetics then I can definitely see this price point over Spring/Shocks... but suspension is a part that is used literally at all times regardless if you're driving aggressively or daily driving. The problem is... everything in your car is an investment. You're going to keep your car for a long time... you don't have to make all your mods at one time. Take your time... space out your mods but get GOOD mods.
Eh... I wouldn't say everything in your car is an investment. Most of time, cars are not an investment especially when you start modifying them. I do get what you mean though. If you plan on keeping the car for a while it makes sense, but in this day and age people usually only keep cars for a few years and then part them out.
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@@KevinVo sure, but having crappy suspension can take away the enjoyment of driving the car itself or worse cause the car to have snappy characteristics that can potentially endanger the occupants or others around.
It's a slippery-slope argument though because the extreme side of things is going overkill on suspension and getting 3-Way adjustable coilovers for a daily driver. I'm just a suspension guy who once upon a time drove with shitty suspension before someone showed me what good suspension was like.
@@DmOcRsI yes but you wouldn't appreciate the nice suspension without experiencing the shitty suspension! Haha
Great review, I would love to see an in depth compassion for all three products. I'm caught up between the FL and FR!
What is your goal for the car? Are you going to be mainly tracking it? The FR-spec will be very stiff on the streets.
@@KevinVo would a stiff set be good for drifting
If you want to make it easier on yourself, just mount the strut on the LCA and jack it up to match up the top mount. Work smarter not harder 😜
I bought a new set of Fortune Auto 500s. I know a lot of people who love them. Not for me. Learned a valuable lesson, buy once cry once. Nitrons here I come 🙂
Everyone has different preferences and that's completely ok!
Thanks again for making another great video! I always enjoy watching your channel.
Thanks for watching and supporting!
That gr86 in red is GORGEOUS
You need more subs, this channel is so informative
Hello! Is it possible to show us a little tour around your garage and maybe a little tip on how to set up a professional home garage :D
Great review. I'm looking forward to you getting it to an autocross event. And tuning the dampers.
We'll see what I end up with eventually.
Agreed.. would love to see some proper action 🎬.
your exhaust sounds nice and drone free on the hwy. What kind of exhaust is it? No drone?
It's the AWE Touring Edition catback exhaust. No drone whatsoever and sounds fantastic!
I think a really good $700 - $900 option purely based on how frequently I see the community use it plus the quality of JDM is Teinz. Can't go wrong with Teinz for that price point. It also comes with camber adjustability too I believe. I was hoping you were going to reveal that the GR86 got some Teinz parts available now too lol. Overall though great video, great review as always!
Random question Kevin, so the GR86 is also your own personal car along with the track FRS (GR being the daily)?
Yes, this red GR86 is my daily and the FRS is my track dedicated car.
@@KevinVo oh you lucky man you 😆
Can you make a video around just buying springs for the care with everything else stock? I’m leaning more towards some springs just cuz they cheaper and still adds a nice drop effect on the car.
Hey, kev... good job. Good job kev.....
How about some Ohlins? Vs STI? not sure if TRD will also have something out soon.
I think I would personally go with the FL-Spec over these, they are only $100 more and come with camber plates.
Certainly a great option as well.
Did you end up getting the FL spec? Im leaning more towards the F spec since for right now im just going for the lowered look and daily driving the car
@@nvrlow no, I wrecked my car. but im getting the HKS coilerovers once its fixed
@@thegoaty6194 how's the car?
I was going to get some but I think stock is perfectly fine for this car as a DD.
The car is definite great in stock form!
I have Tein Flexover Z's. They're not bad and were like $800-900
I think it is called adjustable coilovers for aftermarket. Oem are coil(spring) over strut(shocks).NYK
probably going to go with hks hipermax s. looking for something that wont stiffen up as much in the winter as the stock coils do and that will hold up to that salt
That colour looks pretty good man! I've got a white one coming but I guess with it's epic design, it doesn't matter what colour you get, it's going to look great!
These cars look great in any color! I was going to get a white one at first as well!
@@KevinVo fun fact I was going to get a red one but all the red cars in my area get keyed and my friends car which is a brand new 2023 civic touring got keyed :( jealous people ruin everything, so I went with a white but in the end you can always get a wrap
Hey Kevin nice video . Is it possible to adjust the toe angle with the stock coils and settings or do you need to add after market toe arms ??
Great question! Toe is adjustable from the factory. Just not camber in the rear.
Hopefully you can review the HKS Hypermax Max S coilovers soon. People on the forums say that they’re great!
I was very impressed with the Hipermax S coilovers that I tested on a WRX.
The pop at 13:38 - did you notice this type of popping when downshifting with the stock exhaust too? I definitely hear what sounds very metallic with mine but I think it's just normal backfiring travelling through all of the stock muffling.
You can get some pops with the stock exhaust as well, it's just not as audible. The AWE pops like crazy.
Yes, the pops in stock exhaust sound like some sort of scary mechanical issue haha
What were the toe plates that were installed in this video? They looked like bolts, but I can't find anything out there called a "toe plate"
And is this a budget option to get some adjustment?
I am debating these coilovers or the bc coilovers
I'm thinking of getting the HKS Hypermax S for my 86. I'll be daily driving mine but might track it in future. Don't know if this is a good set or not
HKS Hipermax S coilovers are a great option! I loved the ones I tested on a WRX.
your thts on front /back damper varience? perhaps 12- front and 15 in back Just for illustration not exact numbers.
So would older gen coilovers fit the 2022 BRZ?
Without camber plates, that is a hard sale.
If someone was looking for a cheaper solution and needed to save money, I would tell them to get some Konis and a camber plate. It would give you a better ride and camber adjustment for autoX or just fun driving.
A lot of the Konis now come with lowering perches.
May be a silly question but does the rear Cusco strut bar mount okay with coilovers?
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For a comfort aimed OEM+ ride how do these compare to Fortune Auto 500s? Those are twice the price but is it twice the comfort?
Raceland makes awesome coilovers. Don’t sleep on them they get the price down because they sell directly and there are no resellers. They’re better than the ones in this video no doubt
Can the standard suspension also be adjusted? Before I buy a new chassis just because of optics...
Do you know if there is anything to lift the BRZ/GR86 yet?
Spacers with the premium wheels on?
Yes 25mm
Pay $200 more and get quality stuff from MeisterR with their mono tube CRD line. Designed and assembled in UK. Last at least 36k hard miles with no degradation in ride quality and control. I sold the car.
i think i need these :) thanks for review!
No problem! Let me know what you think if you get them!
Gee if they had only gone with a double wisbone when they built the damn thing. But that is Subaru for you the cheaper the better. Enjoy your channel and that is one shiny garage.
POV: you’re here after the new coil over video
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what warranty does adding coilovers void? is it just the suspension warranty? or the whole car’s warranty?
Off topic, but where did you get your earring studs Kevin? lol
I spend all my money on cars so these are just cheap ones on Amazon haha
Had stance brand coil overs and they felt awful. Switched to bc and felt a lot better for street driving. Don’t feel like extra money is always worth.
Glad you found something that worked out for you!
Hey, can you post the stock alignment numbers of your GR86? I want to see if the numbers match up on mine.
I didn't grab the stock alignment specs, sorry.
@@KevinVo can you grab one from someone somewhere? Maybe even from the previous gen
I want to see how these do on track.
On a smooth track they're probably not too bad, bit if it's bumpy and if you are aggressive on curbs I would imagine these aren't great.
You mention that these have 7k spring rates all around. Do you know what the factory spring rates are?
Yo my car looks sick brotha can't wait!!
what spacers did you use?
Is that Kevin from Subiespeed?
No, I'm Kevin from FTspeed 😅
A set of lowering spring may be better option. Why pay $800 to ruin your ride quality?
Springs are an option as well, but usually don't lower the car as much as some people would like. I like having the ability to set it myself. I wouldn't say there ruined the ride quality at all.
Would you say they’re better then stock ?
I bought $800 coilovers once... way to much work to get them "right", then the adjustments came loose on a couple, while the others rusted up. and the ride was terrible.
Not all $800 coilovers are made equal 🙃
This channel is dangerous, every mod presented here looks like totally razonable 🤣.
What the hell is razonable? 🤔
Do Coilovers from The First Gen Fit 2nd Gen ?
What???? No Raceland??? is not JDM if is not lowered on Raceland.
Edit: all kidding aside, suspension is something I would not change on my 86 cause this rides so much better than my old FRS
I can't afford Raceland coilovers. 😅
What suspension did you have on your old frs?
Where did you get the camber bolts?
I personally like the stock wheel height but I'm a rally guy so I like everything high. Which if I get one of these cars Its becoming a rally car for sure.
Not going to lie, just stick to stock and save up for better coilovers, $1200-1500. No need for top ends coilovers. Can see the jittery from your shirt in that drive. Might as well buy lowering springs than this $800 coilovers.
where torque specs
Sorry! I've updated the description!
My budget is around 1k to 1.5k, what do you recommend ?
What are your goals for the car? Are you just daily driving it? Are you tracking it?
What would you suggest a good street coilover?
What's your budget?
@@KevinVo 1500$
@@KevinVo I’d personally love a recommendation for anything in the sub $2k budget.
1k
@@KevinVo $1,500
Hey how would you be able to adjust the rear dampers once the coils are on and the car is on the ground
You'd need to lift up or remove the carpet liners to access the damper adjusters.
Where did you get the slacers
They are FactionFab 25mm spacers.
Carbon Wing?
Probably won't be going big wang on this build as I want to keep it a low key jdm build.
I bought 1000$ coilovers, they don't really work, for 4000$ you can actually upgrade the car. I would replace the Torsen open differential before coilovers.
I'm sure they work, just not as well as you'd hoped. Majority of people are not going to touch the diffs on these cars.
@@KevinVo If you want to put some real tires on like 255 200TW it's going to be a mess with 1k coilovers + open diff. When I say don't work I mean the car will be unstable.
@@Iseenoobpeoples I have large 200tw tires on my time attack FRS with $1000 coilovers and it works just fine haha
@@KevinVo Let's say you jumped off the roof and only had a wooden table to break the fall, does it work? Next to it you have 4 stacked mattresses.
haha, I would never even consider going over 1000. I just want to lower and stiffen my car. Dont need all the extra.
Since when we’re 800$ coils considered cheap 🤦🏽♂️.
In todays market, I'd say $800 is pretty inexpensive for a set of coilovers.
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stock is best. air is fair. low is glow. cheap is bleep.
Life's too short to stay stock.
Modifying the car at all is a complete waste of money.
Turn off the fake engine sound, keep the oil changed and enjoy the car.
That's completely subjective though. A lot of people find enjoyment in modifying their car. It's a part of the process. You can also improve the performance of the car if done right.
not worth it....
Nope not worth it