[ENG] 2023 GSL S2 Code S RO16 Group C Group C: Dark, SpeCial, GuMiho, Creator Crowdfunding Link AfreecaTV : bj.afreecatv.com/gslenglish Patreon : / gsl
Such a poor decision to blink on the tanks, but I actually think chasing the reaper with both adepts was a TERRIBLE decision. You know your opponent delayed their CC, and is on two-base, you know they're pushing, and you can get the reaper with just one adept and hold the other out to scout. Instead he was blind, for no gain, and he wasn't even posturing with the stalkers to delay the siege.
@@ckhound1 P desperately needs at least one if not several buffs. Its laughable to me as a masters Z main that anyone with a brain looked at Z and thought "yup balanced". T has issues too, they need a rework. But in this case, any race would have probably died. It was such an early all-in and creator had literally two or three units when he scouted it.
This season of GSL is actually insane. May be the best season I can remember to date (minus anything involving PartingG... love that guy's game). Great cast from both gents as well. GGs.
i saw this as the first comment and my thoughts going into this was "awww specials gonna get kicked out first round again i really want him to do good." now you've given me some hope.
I used to wonder why people watched games they didn't play, but watching this is like watching a real sport, when you think about the physical movement of the hands behind the unit movement, and then think about how fast the person has to be reacting within the game while moving/building (micro/macro), it's insane for the average gamer. Like an NBA player is 100x better than your average basketball player, in StarCraft the pro's are like 1000x times better than the average player. In basketball you can 3 v 1 a pro with average players, in StarCraft, 3 v 1 in the same difficulty and the pro still wins, 5 v 1 and the pro still wins lol.
Is there a way to capture the footage in 4k so yt has a higher bitrate option? this is fine, were watching sc2 like that for years now but i feel like the 4k option should eventually come online. keeping them upgrades in check
Protoss was just a poorly designed race in SC2, I can’t think of the counter to mass battle cruisers because Blizzard removed every spell or strategy that would prevent losing to them. Battle cruisers have high DPS and high armor and Protoss have nothing that can match them. Pretty pathetic design if you ask me.
@@sergiokieri3137 this is one of the things, but if you ask me the main problem is giving them mass teleport. this can make battlecrusers just use mass tp on top of your protoss air army use their spell which will kill half of your army for 5 seconds then finish the rest if it easy. not just that but they can fire while moving too. when carriers or any other more air unit need to stop fire, move then stop fire again. phoenix can move and fire but they are not the unit vs heavy armor bc-s. terran needs nerf on their battlecrusers, because even the commentators saying while casting the terrans are abusing bc-s late game.
@@Avrorabg which could be balanced if storm wasn’t a paltry 85 dmg, if stasis were a spell punishing grouping, if a mothership could could create a vortex to suck them in and then I could load it with archons to one shot them, if stalkers weren’t ass, or if battlecuisers were designed with some kind of flaw like low firing rate, regular armor, energy to be feedbacked. The Protoss has had shit design of their units and now that the gimmicks have run out they are on life support. I never played LotV probably never will because Blizzard made a shit game. Protoss don’t even have high defensive units with low dps like SCBW, their design concept is stupid gimmicks and gotcha.
@@Hayman1257 anything Protoss could do that was worth anything was nerfed or scaled back to do nothing at all. It’s as if Blizzard decided Protoss players just like to lose playing defensive or don’t deserve any edge ever. Just look at stasis ward, why doesn’t it hit air? It was sold as an ability to hurt the economy without killing then nerfed to a ward to prevent access but as a Protoss player the main damage you are trying to prevent are drops from terrans. If stasis ward hit air it would even be useful for this BC teleports on top of my army. This game is just pathetic and when it is dead in 10 years and BW is still going strong know that it deserved to die.
It's true, clips of funny banter and action packed game moments would be cool. Wish they would have been doing that back when Artosis was still around too. Top tier tastosis banter is such a niche thing that many people would like if they just saw a clip of it.
YEEEEEAHHH STATE giving us that throwback to my og fav zerg player spanishiwa and how he invented the ice fissure 3 base gasless strategy :D oh man that creator heart break at the end :C , did he think his adepts were going to tank the first siege shots? he didn't need to blink into the tanks right away , especially when his overcharge was active.....
I haven’t watched SC2 for a few years and so I don’t know if special has had a gradual or sudden change but goddamn his looks so different. Good for him
Dark dominating like how he usually does. Poor Creator, that last lost was brutal and can see his frustration. Props to Gumiho for his wild builds and was able to pull a win. Special always providing some unique build, hope to see him more in future GSL.
this is one of the things, but if you ask me the main problem is giving them mass teleport. this can make battlecrusers just use mass tp on top of your protoss air army use their spell which will kill half of your army for 5 seconds then finish the rest if it easy. not just that but they can fire while moving too. when carriers or any other more air unit need to stop fire, move then stop fire again. phoenix can move and fire but they are not the unit vs heavy armor bc-s. terran needs nerf on their battlecrusers, because even the commentators saying while casting the terrans are abusing bc-s late game.
You talking about VS Dark? He had Dark on the ropes. In some cases like this, the aggressive Blink keeps Dark from backing off and resetting the fight with the next wave of reinforcements. Creator maybe coulda done better with insane individual Blink-back micro, but that's not a given even at this level of play. This wasn't anything like the aggressive Blinks we used to see out of Patience, definitely not a tactic that seems particularly criticism-worthy to me.
MUCH LOVE TO EVERYONE SUPPORTING GSL! Focking awesome community! ❤❤And the exact opposite to Blizzard! Not giving more support to the BEST (and its not even close) product that company has EVER made! ---> Microsoft GIVE US STARCRAFT 3! ❤
I don't get it... Phönixes should be able to pick up Protoss units and fly around with them, but not enemy ones or at least make them very slow. That way Protoss air can actually have some AoE... Throw a hugely shielded (maybe impervious to E.M.P.s) archon in front of phönixes and have them 'Eraser' mineral lines with AoE splash damage. Or AoE clumps of mutas and corruptours. Also - a 'Number of Sentries', being units focussed on calculations sounds perfectly fine. I'll make a list...
Spoiler! Heartbreaking to see creator in the last game :( He played so well. But Gumiho is pretty pretty decent atm. So no shame in losing. Last game was just a bad game for him, bad build order match, didnt have info on what gumiho did. And then, even bad decision making. But he would have lost anyways. But his vision was really bad that game. He missed the scvs I think as well.
Special has a Special face. If I met him on the street, I would surely not recognize him. It has no specific geometry and features that stuck in the mind. I think it's a good thing.
I don't want to be the noob giving pro players tips but anytime you can kill a reactor is good vs Terran. They take a very long time to build. I saw a few missed chances on the part of creator who could have done that. It also makes them super mad which they really deserve right now cuz there's too many of them.
Yeah without the mothership old spell, arbiters from BW or Dragons from BW Protoss simply has no answers. Storm is a joke, stalkers are spidery jokes, and carriers can’t get through the high armor.
@@sergiokieri3137 Are you seriously bringing up mothership, arbiters from BW and dragoons from BW and thinking you have anything remotely intelligent to say? Dude. SC2 came out in 2010. It's been out for 13 years now. Come up with actual legitimate reasons for your salty whining. You guys are all just wood league players that never made it past 4k MMR. You just want your skill batteries to camp skill rays with. I get it. But you being bad at the game has NOTHING to do with balance.
@@sergiokieri3137You know, what's funny? I always lose on low masters to lategame toss. It is crazy, how much control can really matter in StarCraft II. Although I don't disagree. On lower level, Toss lategame is hell to play against imo.
@@dannyy8619 I’m bringing up that there isn’t a unit or spell that allows Protoss to fight this composition. All that they can do is not “allow” their opponent to get into this position. Looking at their tools and knowing from playing BW since 1998 and SC2 since 2010 that eventually all the cheeses get figured out I don’t think Protoss has the tools to do this. You can attack my intelligence but that won’t make them splash air unit, have a good ground to air anti capital ship strategy or make terrans all BC composition have a weakness. In BW I was a ICCup B, in SC2 I was masters low GM, I quit before elo as I never played LotV, I left because I was tired of blizzard making gimmicky shit for Protoss.
@@miptzi He moved to Canada for largely family reasons (his wife is from CA) around when AfreecaTV was changing their investment intentions for the GSL. When he made the decision, it wasn't certain that GSL would be continued. Since then, he's been totally focused on BroodWar and the GSL did return, albeit with a largely crowd-funded prize pool. They downsized a lot of in-house costs. He may do SC2-related stuff in the future, and he's still casting ASL with Tasteless, but he's been dropping some Debbie Downer comments about SC2 on his stream lately. He even recently did a stream of him playing SC2 in Diamond and he was extra salty throughout (which is his brand, to be fair).
I would make a few changes for Protoss. 1. Give Collosus two firing modes like Thor, one for squishy bio and one for big beefy units, 2. I’m sick of watching zealots get stuck behind the army during a fight, charge should be a teleport to stay with the theme of Protoss, similar to stalkers. And give them two teleports right off the bat instead of one. And 3. Buff cannons again. Give them an armor buff or something when built near a Nexus for better defense. Oh and 4. Nexus bubble shield upgrade??? I mean cmon. Simple stuff that can give them a better chance.
Suggestion for a change which would only affect TvP: Make EMP only do 50 (or 35, leaves interceptors with some shields) damage to shields. Indirectly buffs all protoss units, but especially Archons & Immortals.
EMP is just too good, 100 shield and energy drain and its a freaking AoE spell. Throw it on a clump up Protoss army and its basically a thousand points of shield gone. It can also instantly drain a few hundred points of energy on a clump of spell caster.
@@skychaos87 EMP doesn't stack and no one at the pro level lets 10 ghosts blanket their army for free just as how no one lets HT just storm their bio for free. Stop exaggerating.
@@dannyy8619 Learn to read, no one says it stacks, but its a freaking AoE spell. And Protoss army clumps up especially with Colossus standing over the Protoss units. Its an instant 100 shield and energy lost. Storm only does 80 points and does it over 3 seconds approximately. You have time to split and for medivacs to heal. One EMP on a bunch of gateway units with a few Colossus or Protoss air units on top of it and its instantly a thousand shield points gone. If there are sentries, oracles and phoenixes it drains their energy too. If there are DTs it reveals them as well. You can even use it on buildings. You can't split against EMP cause its instant, it also has more range and radius than storm lol. Anyone with a sane mind knows how much value EMP has over other spells. Its literally the best spell in the game, even if you don't use EMP, Ghosts can still snipe and nuke, its a counter against Broodlords, Lurkers, Ultras and even useful against Queens, Overlords and Mutalisks. With EMP its a counter against all spell casters in the game. Ghosts even has cloak to increase the chances of connecting its spells.
Protoss players whining about balance when Creator beat Gumiho in the first series, lost in the second. Every game is a nail biter except game 3 series 2 because Creator goes full derp mode and decides to chase a reaper with 2 adepts on the shortest rush distance map AND after he knows that Gumiho went factor first. And then he decides to panic and blink 7 stalkers into siege tanks and die. And the first things Protoss players want to do is whine instantly. Yeah zero sympathy. How about you guys actually git gud or just keep staying bad I don't care
Lmao Creator, can't believe that blink on the tanks in game 3 vs Gumiho. I feel bad for that game against Dark though, feels like he gets good worker damage early on but just doesn't manage to use that to secure a winning game.
The queen. The unit players like to whine about, but without the queen, your scenario would happen every game. Despite what some believe, the queen's damage doesn't scale well and she is near useless away from hatcheries, outside of specific nydus worm attacks. So they are good for early defense, but any mid game army can roll through them if the zerg doesn't have a proper army. They should be able to deal with mass phoenix/viking by then.
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Shoutout tk State remembering the pioneer Spanishiwa and the Ice Fisher build at 44:00 !
3:33:25 that pylon is a real.... Achilles heel!
Not calling that an Artosis pylon is the best example of true friendship and loyalty I've ever seen
did u just
Loved seeing sos in the audience and that he’s playing in team leauge
I would 100% be a member of this channel. Whoever runs this channel, set up memberships! I want to help keep GSL alive and well.
TH-cam takes a much bigger chunk of memberships than Patreon. Patreons the way to go for ASL or GSL.
@@2639theboss oh I do that already
@@2639theboss Yeah this. Twitch gives an even worse cut for subs so it seems like Patreon is really the best way atm
@@andycrowson1013 Damn man, over here carrying the whole Afreeca budget. Lol
@@andycrowson1013 engagement helps big time
3:33:33 sick Artosis pylon. Glad to see he's still here
I liked how Special played the first game. But I also liked how Dark played the 2nd game. That single infestor was brutal.
I would love to go watch the GSL live one day in Korea
I just want to thank the person who takes the time to add the ad breaks to SpnsorBlock each time!
Much love to you
oh my god yes, undisputed MVP
Sweet Jesus, Special physically looks amazing, he's lost such an insane amount of weight!
Hey i went in the comments to see if someone else thought like i do. You can see on the face that he lost a lot since last timeni saw in in sc2
Gotta feel for Creator. That last game was brutal. 😞 yet another group with no Protoss survivors. 😂
Such a poor decision to blink on the tanks, but I actually think chasing the reaper with both adepts was a TERRIBLE decision. You know your opponent delayed their CC, and is on two-base, you know they're pushing, and you can get the reaper with just one adept and hold the other out to scout.
Instead he was blind, for no gain, and he wasn't even posturing with the stalkers to delay the siege.
@@2639theboss Protoss makes 2 mistakes its over, any other race and it doesn't matter lol.
@@ckhound1 How about you git gud instead.
@@ckhound1 Starcraft is a brutal and unforgiving game for all players.
@@ckhound1 P desperately needs at least one if not several buffs. Its laughable to me as a masters Z main that anyone with a brain looked at Z and thought "yup balanced". T has issues too, they need a rework.
But in this case, any race would have probably died. It was such an early all-in and creator had literally two or three units when he scouted it.
This season of GSL is actually insane. May be the best season I can remember to date (minus anything involving PartingG... love that guy's game).
Great cast from both gents as well. GGs.
Andy is back! I miss him. Wish Gyuri can come back too!
Thank god the VOD has the cropless image. Just sucks not being able to see very well when it's being streamed live. :(
bad marketing..
Agreed. Having a live TH-cam was a really big selling point for GSL. It's a smaller presence without it, but I'll take what I can get.
This pylon here- this is a huge…Achilles Heel.
Artosis never forgotten.
1:25:57 SoS is in the crowd! is he back?
yeah hes back from military but hes not playing professionally anymore, just doing stream and friendly tournament at times.
@tigera6 dude he didn't even went to military yet. He just retired that's it.
Poor Creator. Really wanted to see him advance and go far...
love seeing pros in the audience
Wow Special lost a LOT of weight! good for him, always liked his gameplay style.
First game of Special against Dark was something else. What a great play by Juanito. Flawless execution and control by him. GG
i saw this as the first comment and my thoughts going into this was "awww specials gonna get kicked out first round again i really want him to do good." now you've given me some hope.
What blew my mind the most was that he lost like 20 scvs to runbys at least, and it didnt even feel like he lost any 😅 i'm confused 🤣
@@EnslaveTV Yeah his army was big enough to take the game at that point.
I used to wonder why people watched games they didn't play, but watching this is like watching a real sport, when you think about the physical movement of the hands behind the unit movement, and then think about how fast the person has to be reacting within the game while moving/building (micro/macro), it's insane for the average gamer. Like an NBA player is 100x better than your average basketball player, in StarCraft the pro's are like 1000x times better than the average player. In basketball you can 3 v 1 a pro with average players, in StarCraft, 3 v 1 in the same difficulty and the pro still wins, 5 v 1 and the pro still wins lol.
Is there a way to capture the footage in 4k so yt has a higher bitrate option? this is fine, were watching sc2 like that for years now but i feel like the 4k option should eventually come online. keeping them upgrades in check
Love the GSL!
Nightmare and Ragnorok are part of the new wave of Korean stars who will challenge EU for Starcraft supremacy!
Protosses need to "reinvent" themselves and click that zerg button
Protoss was just a poorly designed race in SC2, I can’t think of the counter to mass battle cruisers because Blizzard removed every spell or strategy that would prevent losing to them. Battle cruisers have high DPS and high armor and Protoss have nothing that can match them. Pretty pathetic design if you ask me.
@@sergiokieri3137 this is one of the things, but if you ask me the main problem is giving them mass teleport. this can make battlecrusers just use mass tp on top of your protoss air army use their spell which will kill half of your army for 5 seconds then finish the rest if it easy. not just that but they can fire while moving too. when carriers or any other more air unit need to stop fire, move then stop fire again. phoenix can move and fire but they are not the unit vs heavy armor bc-s. terran needs nerf on their battlecrusers, because even the commentators saying while casting the terrans are abusing bc-s late game.
@@Avrorabg which could be balanced if storm wasn’t a paltry 85 dmg, if stasis were a spell punishing grouping, if a mothership could could create a vortex to suck them in and then I could load it with archons to one shot them, if stalkers weren’t ass, or if battlecuisers were designed with some kind of flaw like low firing rate, regular armor, energy to be feedbacked.
The Protoss has had shit design of their units and now that the gimmicks have run out they are on life support. I never played LotV probably never will because Blizzard made a shit game. Protoss don’t even have high defensive units with low dps like SCBW, their design concept is stupid gimmicks and gotcha.
Yeah, you know there’s a problem when marine mauraders counter collosus and disruptor and mutas beat archons and stalkers in a fight
@@Hayman1257 anything Protoss could do that was worth anything was nerfed or scaled back to do nothing at all. It’s as if Blizzard decided Protoss players just like to lose playing defensive or don’t deserve any edge ever. Just look at stasis ward, why doesn’t it hit air? It was sold as an ability to hurt the economy without killing then nerfed to a ward to prevent access but as a Protoss player the main damage you are trying to prevent are drops from terrans. If stasis ward hit air it would even be useful for this BC teleports on top of my army.
This game is just pathetic and when it is dead in 10 years and BW is still going strong know that it deserved to die.
Special is starting to look like Homelander.
What a banger gronp! looking forward to next weeks matches!
Well, I am glad I got to see some... Special tactics.
GSL~ 4ever!! Go Go !!!!!!!!
Games start at 7:14
When did Homelander start playing Starcraft? @19:00
1:38:00 - "A very hot and heavy boy pull, there" - State, 2023
So Glad Special is back
Great games
AfreecaTV should hire someone to pump out "clickbaity" shorts and stuff to kick this channel into grow mode!
It's true, clips of funny banter and action packed game moments would be cool. Wish they would have been doing that back when Artosis was still around too. Top tier tastosis banter is such a niche thing that many people would like if they just saw a clip of it.
We love you Gumiho
I just started but this is going to be a sick stage.
yesssssssss gsl
YEEEEEAHHH STATE giving us that throwback to my og fav zerg player spanishiwa and how he invented the ice fissure 3 base gasless strategy :D
oh man that creator heart break at the end :C , did he think his adepts were going to tank the first siege shots? he didn't need to blink into the tanks right away , especially when his overcharge was active.....
awesome games awesome casting i think state and tastey are finding their rhythm ggwp
sigh, most underrated player, next year my guy, gg
😍
I haven’t watched SC2 for a few years and so I don’t know if special has had a gradual or sudden change but goddamn his looks so different. Good for him
GG
Is this super quiet like the other uploads in English?
I like "a configuration of sentries"
icefisher build name because its a gasless opener and minerals are blue like ice.
it was an impatient blink, but a patience blink. all hail the gumi-god
Nice
Dark dominating like how he usually does. Poor Creator, that last lost was brutal and can see his frustration. Props to Gumiho for his wild builds and was able to pull a win. Special always providing some unique build, hope to see him more in future GSL.
wow, never noticed the bus either!
If I take anything away from this it’s that’s Queens need a rework
Dark needs to change his id to Daaaaaaarrrrrk cause he looks like a pirate
Thank you for keeping the Gsl alive also state. Is becoming a great caster
3:53:30 Wasn't it on Frost LE?
Woof!
What's up with Artosis?
this is one of the things, but if you ask me the main problem is giving them mass teleport. this can make battlecrusers just use mass tp on top of your protoss air army use their spell which will kill half of your army for 5 seconds then finish the rest if it easy. not just that but they can fire while moving too. when carriers or any other more air unit need to stop fire, move then stop fire again. phoenix can move and fire but they are not the unit vs heavy armor bc-s. terran needs nerf on their battlecrusers, because even the commentators saying while casting the terrans are abusing bc-s late game.
Special on that Ozempic? Looking good, babe!
what was creator thinking with those stupid agressive forward blinks? he lost SO many units cause of that
You talking about VS Dark? He had Dark on the ropes. In some cases like this, the aggressive Blink keeps Dark from backing off and resetting the fight with the next wave of reinforcements. Creator maybe coulda done better with insane individual Blink-back micro, but that's not a given even at this level of play. This wasn't anything like the aggressive Blinks we used to see out of Patience, definitely not a tactic that seems particularly criticism-worthy to me.
12:23 hit the queen at first but did get a drone
Creator played out of his mind!
well done Gumi ! Gumiho is best
❤Stateless (or, alternatively, Tate)
Dark's evil twin brother 'Light' has taken the group! That goatee looks great but really changes his look.
At this point I think we can just remove Toss from the game. What's the point?
Weird I was thinking gaggle of sentries too lol
When I saw that video lenght was 4:20, I knew it was going to be guuuud.
MUCH LOVE TO EVERYONE SUPPORTING GSL! Focking awesome community! ❤❤And the exact opposite to Blizzard! Not giving more support to the BEST (and its not even close) product that company has EVER made! ---> Microsoft GIVE US STARCRAFT 3! ❤
I don't get it... Phönixes should be able to pick up Protoss units and fly around with them, but not enemy ones or at least make them very slow.
That way Protoss air can actually have some AoE... Throw a hugely shielded (maybe impervious to E.M.P.s) archon in front of phönixes and have them 'Eraser' mineral lines with AoE splash damage. Or AoE clumps of mutas and corruptours.
Also - a 'Number of Sentries', being units focussed on calculations sounds perfectly fine. I'll make a list...
woww, Sky T clear P ez
1:23:00 Ouch
GUMIGOAT
420!
I was shouting at my monitor the whole Gumiho Serral finals: Why the fuck are you not making ghosts???? The most OP unit in the game!!!!!
I’m not saying I can replace artosis but state does brilliant job !
Is Shine still GSL observer?
when state mentionned adelscott i felt like a BOOMER
Spoiler!
Heartbreaking to see creator in the last game :( He played so well. But Gumiho is pretty pretty decent atm. So no shame in losing. Last game was just a bad game for him, bad build order match, didnt have info on what gumiho did. And then, even bad decision making. But he would have lost anyways. But his vision was really bad that game. He missed the scvs I think as well.
Special widow mines are traitors! what a random unit...
DARK IS MA BOY ALWAYS A GREAT DAY WHEN DARK IS FIGHTING LETS GOOOO
Special has a Special face. If I met him on the street, I would surely not recognize him. It has no specific geometry and features that stuck in the mind. I think it's a good thing.
banes need to have half their current HP
commentaries seems to not be as deep as usual .. just telling about what we're just looking at ..
Love what Dark's done with his beard, looks great
420 video hey ;-)
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Gee Ehl Eighch Eff Ghee Ghee
Special just threw game 2 vs Dark so hard. How do you lose so many units just walking them around and not burrowing your mines when you get caught
Toss needs to be more aggressive. It’s basically the same army comp every time. Disrupters need to be utilized more.
I don't want to be the noob giving pro players tips but anytime you can kill a reactor is good vs Terran. They take a very long time to build. I saw a few missed chances on the part of creator who could have done that. It also makes them super mad which they really deserve right now cuz there's too many of them.
It's actually insane how much better Terran late game is in PvT
Yeah without the mothership old spell, arbiters from BW or Dragons from BW Protoss simply has no answers. Storm is a joke, stalkers are spidery jokes, and carriers can’t get through the high armor.
@@sergiokieri3137 Are you seriously bringing up mothership, arbiters from BW and dragoons from BW and thinking you have anything remotely intelligent to say? Dude. SC2 came out in 2010. It's been out for 13 years now. Come up with actual legitimate reasons for your salty whining. You guys are all just wood league players that never made it past 4k MMR. You just want your skill batteries to camp skill rays with. I get it. But you being bad at the game has NOTHING to do with balance.
@@sergiokieri3137You know, what's funny? I always lose on low masters to lategame toss. It is crazy, how much control can really matter in StarCraft II. Although I don't disagree. On lower level, Toss lategame is hell to play against imo.
@@dannyy8619 I’m bringing up that there isn’t a unit or spell that allows Protoss to fight this composition. All that they can do is not “allow” their opponent to get into this position. Looking at their tools and knowing from playing BW since 1998 and SC2 since 2010 that eventually all the cheeses get figured out I don’t think Protoss has the tools to do this. You can attack my intelligence but that won’t make them splash air unit, have a good ground to air anti capital ship strategy or make terrans all BC composition have a weakness.
In BW I was a ICCup B, in SC2 I was masters low GM, I quit before elo as I never played LotV, I left because I was tired of blizzard making gimmicky shit for Protoss.
WHERE IS ARTOSIS
Canada
... and he's glad not to be casting SC2 anymore, from the way he talks.
Loving his CNSL videos.
@@jacobunderwood4957 I've been away for 1 year I think.... He quit sc2? WOW.
@@miptzi He moved to Canada for largely family reasons (his wife is from CA) around when AfreecaTV was changing their investment intentions for the GSL. When he made the decision, it wasn't certain that GSL would be continued. Since then, he's been totally focused on BroodWar and the GSL did return, albeit with a largely crowd-funded prize pool. They downsized a lot of in-house costs.
He may do SC2-related stuff in the future, and he's still casting ASL with Tasteless, but he's been dropping some Debbie Downer comments about SC2 on his stream lately. He even recently did a stream of him playing SC2 in Diamond and he was extra salty throughout (which is his brand, to be fair).
@@jacobunderwood4957 well, if it's the best for him. Thanks for the response, appreciate it a lot.
I would make a few changes for Protoss. 1. Give Collosus two firing modes like Thor, one for squishy bio and one for big beefy units, 2. I’m sick of watching zealots get stuck behind the army during a fight, charge should be a teleport to stay with the theme of Protoss, similar to stalkers. And give them two teleports right off the bat instead of one. And 3. Buff cannons again. Give them an armor buff or something when built near a Nexus for better defense. Oh and 4. Nexus bubble shield upgrade??? I mean cmon. Simple stuff that can give them a better chance.
What the hell happen to special he look god of glam now!
Suggestion for a change which would only affect TvP: Make EMP only do 50 (or 35, leaves interceptors with some shields) damage to shields. Indirectly buffs all protoss units, but especially Archons & Immortals.
EMP is just too good, 100 shield and energy drain and its a freaking AoE spell. Throw it on a clump up Protoss army and its basically a thousand points of shield gone. It can also instantly drain a few hundred points of energy on a clump of spell caster.
@@skychaos87 I agree. Protoss would kill for Feedback to work like EMP (i.e, AoE), even if it did no damage.
@@skychaos87 EMP doesn't stack and no one at the pro level lets 10 ghosts blanket their army for free just as how no one lets HT just storm their bio for free. Stop exaggerating.
@@dannyy8619 Learn to read, no one says it stacks, but its a freaking AoE spell. And Protoss army clumps up especially with Colossus standing over the Protoss units. Its an instant 100 shield and energy lost. Storm only does 80 points and does it over 3 seconds approximately. You have time to split and for medivacs to heal. One EMP on a bunch of gateway units with a few Colossus or Protoss air units on top of it and its instantly a thousand shield points gone. If there are sentries, oracles and phoenixes it drains their energy too. If there are DTs it reveals them as well. You can even use it on buildings. You can't split against EMP cause its instant, it also has more range and radius than storm lol. Anyone with a sane mind knows how much value EMP has over other spells. Its literally the best spell in the game, even if you don't use EMP, Ghosts can still snipe and nuke, its a counter against Broodlords, Lurkers, Ultras and even useful against Queens, Overlords and Mutalisks. With EMP its a counter against all spell casters in the game. Ghosts even has cloak to increase the chances of connecting its spells.
where Artosis?
Protoss players whining about balance when Creator beat Gumiho in the first series, lost in the second. Every game is a nail biter except game 3 series 2 because Creator goes full derp mode and decides to chase a reaper with 2 adepts on the shortest rush distance map AND after he knows that Gumiho went factor first. And then he decides to panic and blink 7 stalkers into siege tanks and die. And the first things Protoss players want to do is whine instantly. Yeah zero sympathy. How about you guys actually git gud or just keep staying bad I don't care
Lmao Creator, can't believe that blink on the tanks in game 3 vs Gumiho. I feel bad for that game against Dark though, feels like he gets good worker damage early on but just doesn't manage to use that to secure a winning game.
Is it just me or is GSL over represented by terran right now?
When you play against zerg, what keeps players from just maxing vikings and pheonix and just killing overlords?
Keeping the zerg supply blocked?
Try it yourself, you'll see.
The queen. The unit players like to whine about, but without the queen, your scenario would happen every game.
Despite what some believe, the queen's damage doesn't scale well and she is near useless away from hatcheries, outside of specific nydus worm attacks. So they are good for early defense, but any mid game army can roll through them if the zerg doesn't have a proper army. They should be able to deal with mass phoenix/viking by then.
Unsure if you are trolling *extremely* hard or are actually that dumb and serious...🤔
Special is fit but this is a death group...Poor Special....