Purchased 2 Bose Pro 8s January 27th 2021. Used them on 61 church concerts and now have a difficult time getting top secured to sub to get top speakers to work Have to wiggle until we find the sweet spot and hope nothing happens during the concert. Contacted Sweetwater a few times during my use saying these will not last. Now, they are 2 weeks out of warranty and nothing they can do. Great sound but total JUNK
Oh dear! So sorry to hear that your PA is difficult to function after only 61 events. No matter how much you earn from the events, you expect your investment to last and not fail
Thanks for alerting us to this issue. In our business we have the L1 Compacts, L1 Model 2's & EV Evolves. I was thinking of replacing the Model 2's with this one but having good height is really important. I might hold off now.
I hope this helps @bose make better fit, design for the next version. I own L1 Pro 32 & I have no complaints as far as ease of setup. The sound quality is so pristine. To me those two things are so much more important than the gripes you have with the system. Still, I hope it will help Bose improve this excellent system in the next iterations.
Great to see such an honest review. TH-cam is a cesspit of “reviews” that are just paid endorsements of such products. I use an L1 in my magic shows. Mostly because it sets up and packs away so quickly.
I tried to buy 2 x Stagepas 1K a few months ago but Yamaha discontinued them. I wonder if it's worth trying to seek out used ones (always a sketchy prospect).
Thank you very much for this review I’m actually hunting for the best system and was thinking about Bose. Since you made this video I’m happy you pointed this out so I’ll go for the EV instead... Cheers🤙
Excellent REVIEW! I totally agree with your findings. I too have EV50s and the vertical driver mount is superior compared to the flimsy BOSE vertical mount you show in the video. What I do like about the BOSE pro16 is the built in mixer with effects (that would eliminate a the stand alone mixer in my current rig), however, it is obvious the BOSE could not hold up to my busy gigging schedule for breakdowns/setups (solo keyboard player/singer, 100+ events per year). To me, the Bose products sound good BUT have a toy-like build quality and of course are overpriced (but what isn't over priced in the pro audio sector)? I see EV recently introduced the EV30M and 50M that are improved versions of EV30 and EV50 but now with a mixer and effects. Decisions, decisions, decisions.
Just a quick question? I am doing live music ( electric lead and rhythm guitar, vocals as well as backing tracks) and I am also doing DJ events ( mostly event DJ work...weddings, parties, etc. ) Am I right to conclude that your recommendation sound-wise for me would be the EV 50? I understand this is just your personal feelings so I won't hold you to it. I will definitely sound-check both myself.
The 16 is a good performer (sound) but I consider it not to be "fit for purpose" as a PA, due to its poor build. They both sound different. I prefer the EV but it does suffer from a lack of mids and to be honest, the EV is not the best sounding compact column but the setup is second to none Demo both and the others out there. You never know, sound-wise, the 16 could be for you
Thank you so much for the review. it is April 2021 now and I am thinking about buying the L1 pro 16. I have not checked the unit out yet at the music store, but I will now know to look and see if they have done anything to fix this issue.
I heard couple reviews with that 1 same problem but the sound was amazing was gonna buy 1 but I’ll jus stick to what I have the Turbosound IP3000 it’s heavy but solid as hell and sounds amazing 🤙
Thanks for your reply. Any other compact column you might suggest I demo? I am in Vancouver, Canada and these are the main two we see over here although JBL has one I see.
The issue isn’t an issue when you have it set up and doing what it’s designed to do. We aren’t over there rocking it while playing music or talking. You could take any PA speaker on a stand and see they also rock (or sways when hanging with a wire). The point is, are they designed for you to push and pull on them? Or to produce amplification and live sound in small to large venues?
I don't know of any similar design (woofer on floor, column supporting tweeter) that is nearly as flakey as the L1 Pro16. So while it's probably likely that it won't fall over of its own accord or even from most wind (because it's very thin), live gear needs to be built to tolerate at least mild "abuse" or "clumsiness". The cheap plastic will likely break when being bumped or dropped from approximately knee height. With 1 finger I could push over the column and break it off from its connection (I didn't, but it easily felt as if I could do that). Treat the thing like a glass vase and it'll last forever I suppose.
You certainly have valid points I agree with, but when you're rocking it, some of that rocking is the base unit which will affect how much sway is at the top. Also, why isn't it just on a flat surface rather than the pallet?
I anticipated somebody saying that which is why I focused on the rocking gap at the column base ......and at....8:36 the pa is indoors on a solid hard surface It's on a pallet outdoors like the bags were because the ground is sodden and very muddy, not ideal conditions to put your brand new $1799 PA on! If you think the wobble is exaggerated, It doesn't end there. Another upload to follow
Well thats made my mind up. I actually tested the Yamaha Stagepas 1K out and its absolutely amazing and you can buy two so you get left and right for the price of one of these
Wow I just bought two and was immediately struck with how bad the connection was and said to myself...."no magnet"??? I'm seriously thinking about returning this but the tone match system is why I might keep it.
Good video as a Bose l1 model 1 and and a Bose l1 model 2 owner looking to upgrade I may as well stick with what I’ve got I’m a kJ DJ I get compliments on my sound and people have bought stuff after seeing my show I would not be happy recommending this though the footprint is great and I wanted this to be a winner
What one with similar specs and maybe sturdier build would you recommend though in 2024?.@opaz. I'm a singer looking to sing house/ dance music through one of these with a wireless mic and option of a few eq etc any thoughts?. It seems to be either this Bose pro l1 16 but now I'm put off. The Studio master 121Mk or Ev8
Jay, you will need to demo the units unfortunately. Being a singer/performer there are more crucial pairing factors involved, that your style of performance requires.
Hello friend, I watched some of your videos where you show the problem of the Bose L1 pro, I am a fan of Bose but I was completely disappointed with this last L1 project in terms of connectivity, did you get any answer from Bose? Did you return the device to the store? Marcos Gava from Brazil.
Currently I've checked out the Mackie SRM, the Evolve 30 and the Bose L1 Pro 8 (purchased). I am disappointed in the wobbly aspect of the Bose array but the sound as a female vocalist from the Bose is unmatched. I don't have to scream or push as hard . I used the Bluetooth on my Ipad for my backing tracks and all is well. I carried it in a small wagon from my car to the event hosting 60 people in one trip, easy set up in 10 minutes. Bose you need real musicians in your quality control.
The wobble in the tower really bothers me. I have an L1 Model II , extra amp, 2 B2 subs. I have been on the fence about upgrading to the Pro 32. Thank you.😢😢
ok, they should solve it, i believe, tell me something, i saw that you had a lot of experiences with sounds of different brands, did you happen to have the opportunity to test the Kb1 K-array Blueline sound? Thanks.
Thanks for the video, shocking to see Bose cheap out like this. Nowhere near the quality of the L1 Compact and L1 Model 2 connections. I was looking at the L1 Pro16 to replace my old L1 Compacts, I'll be going with EV Evolve 30M now...
@@opaz. yes. I have that bose 700 soundbar at home. I am EXTREMELY pleased with it. So I can only imagine the Pro32. You say the 32 will be "ok".....what makes you so sure?? i mean, it still has to connect in the middle. I want no wobble.
The pro16 column is top heavy supported by a plastic spacer that fits one end and not the other. The 32's column looks all metal as it houses all those drivers so you should be "ok"
Greetings: I'd written to you in the past about the Bose Pro series system. I am a singer/songwriter playing mostly in wineries in Northern Arizona. Yesterday I went to the Guitar Center to purchase the EV Evolve 50. The salesman was questioning my decision in an informative manner. In that, "are you sure you want that system". He said, they do not sell many of the systems and as a customer put it, once you've been using a Bose, it difficult to go to something else. Well sir, I tried the EV, oh my gosh it was terrible via my Phone 11. I tried lots of settings and still terrible. Then I went to the Pro Pro 16. OK, OK the towers poorly designed. The wobbling was not acceptable but the sound was truly fantastic. On a whim, I pulled apart the plastic end, put it aside and plugged the main tower into the bass unit. Oh my god what a difference. It worked and yes the tower is a a bit lower but no side to side movement was gone. I decided on the Pro 16. Something to consider.
@@opaz. Thank you sir. I think the good news is the system does not wobble and the sound is great. Trouble is, I lost my USB C cord now I have to buy another one of course the issue with no cover for the bass unit is still a pisser. Now I have to purchase a cover as well. I hate this!
HI, I have researched hours of TH-cam videos, and in line array systems the Bose L1 16 is winning, surprised to read you thought the sound was terrible from the Evolve 50, and far superior from the bose, Opaz has said bose are cutting corners and I believe they are, and what's directing me away from bose is when he took the bose apart and showed us exactly what your paying for that was the bose 32, Perhaps your right in what you say here, that the bose L1 16 is where they put the money into the sound and power and skimped on the connections, But you say also here that there was a huge difference in sound by removing the small connector pole, Opaz you should demonstrate this to us, all very interesting..
Martin. The continuous high pitch shriek from the L16 column as soon as you switch the unit on, without anything plugged into it was the moment RETURN & REFUND entered my head
In the upload 8:35, the unstable PRO16 column is also tested indoors on a solid hardwood floor Not gonna test a $1799 PA outdoors in the mud, hence pallet
Can you tell me the differences between the prx one and db1203(using in mono setup single column stack) in terms of spl/bass output? I've bough the prx first, feels like a cheap toy column, similar connection to the bose pro16, thin, fragile material... After 2 hour using it I can't stand to see the limiter led start to flash when the system is on 75%, tops can get louder but the bass can't keep this increment, even using hp filter... So I returned and changed with db1203... Different animals, wood cabinet, solid connections...
@@jeremybouchard9898 zzSounds was advertising get it by Dec 28 so I did a chat with them and they said yes. Today I looked at the product page. Get it by Jan 26. So maybe they were trying to entice ordering through them- and maybe Bose caught wind of it ....because every other dealer was mid January
CANCEL ORDER!!! Unacceptable column design. Both the plastic connection and the unsturdy column (sway). You are on point. For Approximately $1800 this needs to be redesigned. Will look into other p.a. systems and reconsider if bose makes things right. Very dissapointed.
Uggg I demo'd and preferred them against everything in the store. Gonna wait and hope they can do better in the near future. I'll continue to use my heavy yamahas for now.
It sounds like a large radio, goes loud sounds clear, not crystal clear as I often hear. EV has better HF and LF performance but lacks the mids of the Pro16. When it comes to price (value for money), the ES is available in white, it is mono & stereo & £500 cheaper. Say no more!
@@opaz. ok, thank you for your opinion, I have the ES1203 it's a good system, that can sound very loud and is not very expensive but the bass is not really deep. I was wondering how that would compare with more expensive systems like L1 pro 16 or Evolve 50.
wow, we have very different taste or hearing. All those years at the London School of Audio Engineering and in the studio mixing Gorillaz ...wasted. More bass, honestly, you are joking 🤣
Really disappointing. I've got the previous L1 Model II at present. The plastic electrical connections look the same but the pole connections are solidly constructed: those L1 II array poles aren't going anywhere. Is the L1 Pro 16 array "solid" without the extension piece? I was looking to change to the Pro 16: less pieces, lighter, more powerful but the same Bose Sound but now I feel really let down by Bose.
Wow thanks ,I won't be getting one ,I work at kids party s too unsafe , l1 compact better this is an accident waiting to happen i think ,spot on reveiw
Thanks for the video. I've been looking at the Bose L1 and have heard others say the same thing. Poor construction. Thats terrible. I would be pissed if I shelled out that kind of money for something that wobbled like that. Bose should be embarassed. I've crossed the L1 off my list.
I had the original Maui 28, drunks would always lean on the column and talk to me, I’d slap their hands when they got to point of annoying me, that Bose, that would worry me ...thanks for the video 🙂
Hope for them the 32pro wont be the same... ill keep my f1 kit! Sold my 1203 never liked the sound... evolve 50 are hard to beat especially from now on with the small events
Think of the spacer as just a thing that puts the tweeter section further away. Electrically, it's just more wire. Losing the spacer only means that the tweeter section will be lower to the ground, which will only have acoustic ramifications, not electrical.
OK so the Electra voice is built better than the bars. But what about sound quality which one sounds the best because we are buying something for sound not something for stability. If we were looking for ultrastable we would probably just go with the old style PA system and not bother with this new crap. Please let me know your findings
The pro16 sounds like a big radio that's it, The ev is actually awake and more of an attractive buy when it comes to sound. All of this is (in my opinion) but it has weak mids. They both have pros and cons. As they tirelessly keep saying 🥱 yawn yawn yawn "sound is subjective". Demo them Tell you the honest truth I'd rather buy subs and tops or 2 good 15's for how i like things to sound. I only say "how I like things to sound" as it's my money paying for the equipment Compact colums are only good for keeping things discreet and keeping equipmentweight down. The consequences are that sound quality suffers
We all buy a product for stability (build quality) as well as sound and value for money. Don't let manufacturers hear that we don't otherwise Bose will continue building failures like this.
Thank you very much for your great review.. Please can you recommend me a good PA system brand with a good quality sound, with Bluetooth option to buy? I am a singer and I was just this close to buy the BOSE L1 PRO 16 . i want a PA system to be able to use for outdoor venues.. And BOSE customer service told me through a phone consultation that the L1 PRO 16 was perfect for an audience number of 200 people. Please if you can recommend me a good brand PA system with good quality sound for outdoors for a venue of 200 people.. Thanks..
I'm commenting here because I am searching for the same thing [a pair for DJ use]. I LOVE the Bose L1Pro16 sound but the physical build quality is a deal-breaker methinks. I have used 2 x L1Pro8 for year and they also sound fantastic [but not loud enough for the bigger venues we'll be at], and although the build quality is the same, it manifests itself much less so because the top sections are smaller/lighter.
well i just bought the new pro 32 and sub 2,..with the tonematch mixer close to $4,000,......if any of this shits goin on,... theres gonna be trouble,... & it will be sweetwaters problem.
Look cool but inherently flawed design. If the base were inset a couple more inches leaving a more substantial supporting "collar" then it wouldn't wobble very much. Plus, when connected via Bluetooth you're only connected to 1 stack at a time. If you want to send Bluetooth audio out to one stack and connect an other to it via cabling you only get mono audio not stereo so no stereo separation!
Just wow. That spacer needs to dig in deep at least 5 inches into the sub for any sort of tight fit. Bose spent most of their effort into the sound engineering and totally overlooked the form fit. I can't fathom the idea of that entire column arrays height and weight is only supported by that ultra flimsy connection. Agree, total fail.
Now I’m suscribed. I’m following you but I find you a little hater vs Bose. It cannot be that bad. I was considering the pro16 but you considered that almost garbage! I was considering the pro32 without sub and add My own sub but because the weight. Not just the quality
th-cam.com/video/B7OyHtXMXrc/w-d-xo.html my upload above is not hate, the same goes for my bose l1 upload. Nothing but praise! Pioneer with their latest all-in-one controllers are carrot danglers, whereas Denon are the opposite with theirs. Bose brand their products blatantly overprice for what they produce, I've tried & tested enough to come to that conclusion If products from any manufacturer don't cut it, I will reveal why! Many state bose as "the best", if that was so I shouldn't be able to create a fail upload. When it comes to the 16 with the high pitch piercing sound and the unstable column. .. is that "the best"?
I love the Bose sound, and was about to recommend 2 x L1 Pro 16 for the ecstatic dance organization I work for but when I saw one set up at a local music store I couldn't believe how cheap and wobbly it was. Do the EV50s sound as "hi fi" as the Bose? Or any other recommendation for a system with heavy part that stays on the floor?
The EV50 doesn't have good mids but is much more stable on the floor. There are many similar style alternative systems to choose from, depending what you're looking for. Pro 16 design/build quality is dreadful
I'm looking for something with a very "hi fi" sound, like Bose. Nothing harsh and aggressive. The "loudness" should be derived from the deep clear bass, not from SPL for the sake of it. If Bose kept the same build quality as before, it would be a no-brainer to buy the L1 Pro 16. I wonder what the Bose F series is like, with subwoofer and top speaker. I realize it would be a little more complicated to set up (2 power cables, 2 audio cables).
I'll demo but not buy it. Its nearly 3K, not worth it no way!!!!.. That is way too much for a PA with 128dB. For that money I want 2 subs not 1 and a peak at 136dB minimum
Purchased two BOSE L1 Pro 16 units. The instructions state it must be updated before it is used. Why it doesn't come updated from the factory is beyond me. The first one updated just fine. The second unit failed to connect. Hours upon hours of trouble shooting, I called BOSE support and they advised me to take it back. Took it back to Guitar Center and came home with a replacement. BOOM! Nothing. Same issue as the last one. Called BOSE support again and they said they would get back to me "within a few days." Took that one back today and received yet a third replacement. This one also fails to update but on top of that, the lighting on the mixer is sketchy and appears to have got past QA. When I return this one, it will be my 4th unit. I am 1/2 tempted to just return both and be done with it. When you shell out this kind of coin for an item, it should work right out the box, no questions asked. What a disappointment.
I would be very disappointed as well... I can’t believe they would release this product with their name on it! 😳 wonder who they had test these? Whoever it was clearly didn’t have a lot of sense! I pre ordered the l1 pro32 I pray they didn’t cut corners on it because it’s my first Bose purchase ever.🙏🏻
@@Andy1x I don't think so. Seems Bose is being left behind by some companies. EV just came out with a new battery powered weatherized portable PA system...
@@opaz. thx for the reply. I sold my two Bose L1 compact and bought an evolve 50m and was wondering if I had made a mistake. Should return the 50m and buy 2 pro8’s
Seppe did you do a sound demo? My advice and opinion is exactly that. You really need to make sure that YOUR choice suits YOU. What are you using the pa for?
was gonna buy the 16 and tested it for an hour here at Guitar Center Winter Park Florida. Loved the sound on my Kremona flamenco guitar with pickup but I noticed this swaying when I was positioning the speaker away from the wall. SMH! $1800 NO THANKS so unfortunate. So much for waiting for the re-design of the L1.
@@opaz. I've already pulled the trigger on a EV 50. The build, FX and 3 band EQ on the app sold me. If I don't like the sound I'll send it back. Thanks for the review!
@@opaz. Yep just $200 more and 2 more xlr inputs and variety of FX. We'll see how it sounds compared to the 16 which sounded really nice especially the mids (very important for the guitar)
The Pro8 has the same support design, but because the top section with the tweeters is half the size/weight, the problem isn't nearly as obvious. I haven't notice a high pitch whine though; I'll have to listen closely next time I'm near one.
My LD Systems Maui 11 G2 columns are made from aluminium and have precision steel pins for keeping the parts in place. Very solid, zero sway. Bose should 've done more real life testing before giving green lights to these plastic 'sockets'. This looks very cheap.
Firstly, thank you so much for the review of this appalling issue. It is not often that I am moved to make comment! Just before Covid lockdown, I actually purchased the Bose L1 Compact and, of course, ended up never using it in "the real world" due to the pandemic. Consequently therefore, just in-house use so far. Perhaps not surprisingly, if I had been purchasing such system right now, I would probably go for the "Pro 8" .... more mixer facility, reverb', app' etc. In fact, with the thought of "upgrading" to a "Pro 8" firmly in mind, it was during my surveying the reviews, demo's and marketing stuff for the "Pro 8" that I came across your report. My goodness, am I glad I did! I know that your review is specifically regarding the "Pro 16", rather than the "Pro 8", but, based on what you have clearly shown, I will now definitely not purchase either of them. Irrespective of how good it sounds and all it's other attributes, I cannot tolerate flimsy! Frankly, Bose might well know how to do Sound Engineering, but what you have shown illustrates that they could well do with paying significant attention to their Mechanical Engineering expertise! The column section join detail is pathetic and, in my view, whoever designed & passed it as "fit for purpose" should be relieved of their duties! Producing mechanically robust, rigid, column connections is easy for goodness sake ........ it is beyond me why a company with the world-wide reputation of Bose allows such a woefully bad feature to sully their otherwise desirable product. Pitiful!
Glyn!. ..I couldn't have put it better myself. When brands think they can survive from their name and churn out substandard products and happily take our cash. .. that's not on. I hope other potential customers view and ponder over your extremely valuable comments. 👍🏼
I have used 2 x Bose L1 Pro8 for about a year [in a DJ context] and although it has the same pole-connect design as the L1 Pro16, it is much less wobbly and embarrassing. That's because the top part with the tweeters is much shorter, and the extender column is much longer, so it isn't as top heavy. They sound great, but as I have mentioned in another post, I'm looking to buy something louder than the L1 Pro8, and the L1 Pro16 exactly fits that bill sonically [a very "hi fi" sound], but I am hesitant because of its poor build quality. I only need a line input; no built in mixer is necessary since DJs use an external mixer.
Many thanks for this video! You saved my money :-) Is this issue also at older Bose L1 model II ? I had a chance to hear Bose L1 model II with B2 bass module i the past and the sound was great. Therefore I was thinking about this new 16Pro set (probably two sets). Or should I rather go for EV Evolve (30m, 50 or 50m) or RCF Evox 8 v2? Stability is important for me as well, not only good sound.
@@opaz. Yes, I am thinking about it, it has great feature QuickSmart Link which allows to double number of inputs when two 50m are used. 3 inputs at Bose is also disadvantage:-( I only have not chance to hear any Evolve yet. RCF Evox 8 sounds ok but Bose L1 model II with B2 was better 😀 Nice sound everywhere in the room.
@@opaz. Btw, I do not know if it is possible to use T4S ( connected by ToneMatch RJ45 cable) simultaneously with inputs which are on L1 Pro. I was checking the manual, no answer there 😞
Yes, far too much plastic for that kind of money. I'll test the Bluetooth, haven't tested it yet. I've given up on the whole system to be honest. Will test and get back to you!
Afraid to ask, but Bose never corrected this issue with a product update, did they? I love the sound of this system but as you said no QC and the assembly is sloppy, poor, and risky for owners.
I know they make tons of products and make millions from them but the most important people to bose should be their customers (well I thought it was!) but here they didn't listen and with the quality (or lack of it) with new products like these. Welcome to the new bose
Oh dear! Apparently, bose have stated that the column wobble is a myth. I would love bose to upload a setup video of the L16, showing this myth It's a result of POOR BUILD & POOR DESIGN The high pitch sound from the column was the very last straw for me
Purchased 2 Bose Pro 8s January 27th 2021. Used them on 61 church concerts and now have a difficult time getting top secured to sub to get top speakers to work Have to wiggle until we find the sweet spot and hope nothing happens during the concert. Contacted Sweetwater a few times during my use saying these will not last. Now, they are 2 weeks out of warranty and nothing they can do. Great sound but total JUNK
Oh dear! So sorry to hear that your PA is difficult to function after only 61 events.
No matter how much you earn from the events, you expect your investment to last and not fail
We’ve just bought one . Is it worth putting gaffer tape on after slotting it in to keep it secure ?
Thanks for alerting us to this issue. In our business we have the L1 Compacts, L1 Model 2's & EV Evolves. I was thinking of replacing the Model 2's with this one but having good height is really important. I might hold off now.
I just did my first gig with it and it was so windy my lights blew over. This thing didn’t move at all. You can’t beat this system it’s amazing.
I hope this helps @bose make better fit, design for the next version. I own L1 Pro 32 & I have no complaints as far as ease of setup. The sound quality is so pristine. To me those two things are so much more important than the gripes you have with the system. Still, I hope it will help Bose improve this excellent system in the next iterations.
Thank you so much for your help. 😀
Anytime
Word! was about to pull the trigger on the Model 16..thanks for taking the time on your critical review..
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Great to see such an honest review. TH-cam is a cesspit of “reviews” that are just paid endorsements of such products. I use an L1 in my magic shows. Mostly because it sets up and packs away so quickly.
Cheers Ritchie, we work hard for our money. If gear that supports us ain't fit for purpose, gotta be honest about it
Thank you the stagepas 1k Like wallace stated is excellent build ! Ive had several Bose products including the S1 pro have many issues
I tried to buy 2 x Stagepas 1K a few months ago but Yamaha discontinued them. I wonder if it's worth trying to seek out used ones (always a sketchy prospect).
Thx for honest feedback and opinion. Cheers
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Crucial info! Thanks!
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Thank you very much for this review I’m actually hunting for the best system and was thinking about Bose. Since you made this video I’m happy you pointed this out so I’ll go for the EV instead...
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Excellent REVIEW! I totally agree with your findings. I too have EV50s and the vertical driver mount is superior compared to the flimsy BOSE vertical mount you show in the video. What I do like about the BOSE pro16 is the built in mixer with effects (that would eliminate a the stand alone mixer in my current rig), however, it is obvious the BOSE could not hold up to my busy gigging schedule for breakdowns/setups (solo keyboard player/singer, 100+ events per year). To me, the Bose products sound good BUT have a toy-like build quality and of course are overpriced (but what isn't over priced in the pro audio sector)? I see EV recently introduced the EV30M and 50M that are improved versions of EV30 and EV50 but now with a mixer and effects. Decisions, decisions, decisions.
Thanks Tony. To me the Evolve 50 is hard to beat as an all-rounder. The 50M is gonna be even tougher to beat with all the extras.
The 50M is the one!
Thank you I agree I returned mine and went back to the L1 Model II
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I’m sorry I just bought them and mine was that loose mine stay straight. And secure. I’m sure yours is defective.
I'm happy for you Edgar, enjoy!
How did the sound compare? I was thinking about trading in my model 2 b2 for this. 😬
Thanks for the video, I think I will wait for the improvement from Bose to correct the issue. Just a sloppy cost-down strategy......
sorry it had to be this way!
Just a quick question? I am doing live music ( electric lead and rhythm guitar, vocals as well as backing tracks) and I am also doing DJ events ( mostly event DJ work...weddings, parties, etc. ) Am I right to conclude that your recommendation sound-wise for me would be the EV 50? I understand this is just your personal feelings so I won't hold you to it. I will definitely sound-check both myself.
The 16 is a good performer (sound) but I consider it not to be "fit for purpose" as a PA, due to its poor build.
They both sound different. I prefer the EV but it does suffer from a lack of mids and to be honest, the EV is not the best sounding compact column but the setup
is second to none
Demo both and the others out there. You never know, sound-wise, the 16 could be for you
Thank you so much for the review. it is April 2021 now and I am thinking about buying the L1 pro 16. I have not checked the unit out yet at the music store, but I will now know to look and see if they have done anything to fix this issue.
If it's been fixed Gary, give us a shout 👍🏻
Will do.
I heard couple reviews with that 1 same problem but the sound was amazing was gonna buy 1 but I’ll jus stick to what I have the Turbosound IP3000 it’s heavy but solid as hell and sounds amazing 🤙
The high pitch scream as soon as you switch it on, was unbearable. So it had to go
Thanks for your reply. Any other compact column you might suggest I demo? I am in Vancouver, Canada and these are the main two we see over here although JBL has one I see.
Try RCF they have a few. I recommend their products
The issue isn’t an issue when you have it set up and doing what it’s designed to do. We aren’t over there rocking it while playing music or talking. You could take any PA speaker on a stand and see they also rock (or sways when hanging with a wire). The point is, are they designed for you to push and pull on them? Or to produce amplification and live sound in small to large venues?
When many agree that it is an issue, then it is. Please view the comments
Actually it is an issue when you’re on a stage that also wobble and sways when you move.
I don't know of any similar design (woofer on floor, column supporting tweeter) that is nearly as flakey as the L1 Pro16. So while it's probably likely that it won't fall over of its own accord or even from most wind (because it's very thin), live gear needs to be built to tolerate at least mild "abuse" or "clumsiness". The cheap plastic will likely break when being bumped or dropped from approximately knee height. With 1 finger I could push over the column and break it off from its connection (I didn't, but it easily felt as if I could do that). Treat the thing like a glass vase and it'll last forever I suppose.
You certainly have valid points I agree with, but when you're rocking it, some of that rocking is the base unit which will affect how much sway is at the top. Also, why isn't it just on a flat surface rather than the pallet?
I anticipated somebody saying that which is why I focused on the rocking gap at the column base ......and at....8:36 the pa is indoors on a solid hard surface
It's on a pallet outdoors like the bags were because the ground is sodden and very muddy, not ideal conditions to put your brand new $1799 PA on!
If you think the wobble is exaggerated, It doesn't end there. Another upload to follow
Nice vid Bro, saved my buck.
Sure I agree with you on this problem,they need to fix it.
Well thats made my mind up. I actually tested the Yamaha Stagepas 1K out and its absolutely amazing and you can buy two so you get left and right for the price of one of these
Excellent 👍🏻
I have the 1k and its awesome
Yes, but the down side is you don´t have the "BOSE" logo on it, which looks so good.
@@hiltonjon7454 seems to have very limited EQ possibilities.
@@robertocalderonabogado1427 yeah but it says Yamaha 🤣🤣👍
Thanks for the heads up! Question... This vid being 2 yrs on now; have they fixed the issue in 2023?
No idea, I haven't been following the product.
I agree with yah on the Bose L1 swaying tower. I fooken hate that crap, so I decided not to use the spacer to limit the sways.
Good idea!
Wow I just bought two and was immediately struck with how bad the connection was and said to myself...."no magnet"??? I'm seriously thinking about returning this but the tone match system is why I might keep it.
I was thinking of purchasing one in 2024 to see if the wobbly connections from over 3 years ago have been improved. .. just got my answer!
Thanks
Good video as a Bose l1 model 1 and and a Bose l1 model 2 owner looking to upgrade I may as well stick with what I’ve got I’m a kJ DJ I get compliments on my sound and people have bought stuff after seeing my show I would not be happy recommending this though the footprint is great and I wanted this to be a winner
Sorry Paul.
What one with similar specs and maybe sturdier build would you recommend though in 2024?.@opaz.
I'm a singer looking to sing house/ dance music through one of these with a wireless mic and option of a few eq etc any thoughts?.
It seems to be either this Bose pro l1 16 but now I'm put off. The Studio master 121Mk or Ev8
Jay, you will need to demo the units unfortunately. Being a singer/performer there are more crucial pairing factors involved, that your style of performance requires.
@@opaz. Agreed! I'll try the JBL one and the EV50 I do know they pair fine with the mic I want to use 🤞
Hello friend, I watched some of your videos where you show the problem of the Bose L1 pro, I am a fan of Bose but I was completely disappointed with this last L1 project in terms of connectivity, did you get any answer from Bose? Did you return the device to the store? Marcos Gava from Brazil.
Marcus, I haven't contacted bose because other customers have the same issues
Currently I've checked out the Mackie SRM, the Evolve 30 and the Bose L1 Pro 8 (purchased). I am disappointed in the wobbly aspect of the Bose array but the sound as a female vocalist from the Bose is unmatched. I don't have to scream or push as hard . I used the Bluetooth on my Ipad for my backing tracks and all is well. I carried it in a small wagon from my car to the event hosting 60 people in one trip, easy set up in 10 minutes. Bose you need real musicians in your quality control.
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The wobble in the tower really bothers me. I have an L1 Model II , extra amp, 2 B2 subs. I have been on the fence about upgrading to the Pro 32. Thank you.😢😢
Lucky I dint get it yet thanks for VDO
ok, they should solve it, i believe, tell me something, i saw that you had a lot of experiences with sounds of different brands, did you happen to have the opportunity to test the Kb1 K-array Blueline sound? Thanks.
No Marcus, I am aware of their equipment but I've never heard or tested it
Thanks for the video, shocking to see Bose cheap out like this. Nowhere near the quality of the L1 Compact and L1 Model 2 connections. I was looking at the L1 Pro16 to replace my old L1 Compacts, I'll be going with EV Evolve 30M now...
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i just got mine,my first impression is wow that speaker tower is wobbly
Oh dear!! 😕
Yup, it deserves a better/firmer/more positive locking mechanism. Step up Bose!
Have people thought of using builders shims to lock in place between the gaps
good idea 💡
I plan on getting the Pro32...I PRAY its not the same sway problem.
It'll be ok, do you think it's worth nearly 3K?
@@opaz. yes. I have that bose 700 soundbar at home. I am EXTREMELY pleased with it. So I can only imagine the Pro32. You say the 32 will be "ok".....what makes you so sure?? i mean, it still has to connect in the middle. I want no wobble.
The pro16 column is top heavy supported by a plastic spacer that fits one end and not the other.
The 32's column looks all metal as it houses all those drivers so you should be "ok"
I received my Pro32 two weeks ago, very sturdy no sway.
I got mine on Monday
Greetings: I'd written to you in the past about the Bose Pro series system. I am a singer/songwriter playing mostly in wineries in Northern Arizona. Yesterday I went to the Guitar Center to purchase the EV Evolve 50. The salesman was questioning my decision in an informative manner. In that, "are you sure you want that system". He said, they do not sell many of the systems and as a customer put it, once you've been using a Bose, it difficult to go to something else. Well sir, I tried the EV, oh my gosh it was terrible via my Phone 11. I tried lots of settings and still terrible. Then I went to the Pro Pro 16. OK, OK the towers poorly designed. The wobbling was not acceptable but the sound was truly fantastic. On a whim, I pulled apart the plastic end, put it aside and plugged the main tower into the bass unit. Oh my god what a difference. It worked and yes the tower is a a bit lower but no side to side movement was gone. I decided on the Pro 16. Something to consider.
Nice to hear from you again Jon. So so so glad you're happy with your purchase 👍🏻
@@opaz. Thank you sir. I think the good news is the system does not wobble and the sound is great. Trouble is, I lost my USB C cord now I have to buy another one of course the issue with no cover for the bass unit is still a pisser. Now I have to purchase a cover as well. I hate this!
Watch video below from 2:45-2:59 when I bought it 3 years ago! 😆
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HI, I have researched hours of TH-cam videos, and in line array systems the Bose L1 16 is winning, surprised to read you thought the sound was terrible from the Evolve 50,
and far superior from the bose,
Opaz has said bose are cutting corners and I believe they are, and what's directing me away from bose is when he took the bose apart and showed us exactly what your paying for that was the bose 32,
Perhaps your right in what you say here, that the bose L1 16 is where they put the money into the sound and power and skimped on the connections,
But you say also here that there was a huge difference in sound by removing the small connector pole, Opaz you should demonstrate this to us, all very interesting..
Martin. The continuous high pitch shriek from the L16 column as soon as you switch the unit on, without anything plugged into it was the moment RETURN & REFUND entered my head
I feel you bro. I made the same purchase and was very disappointed.
Just watched your upload. Very detailed, .great work pal
Thanks for the free performance! 🎸
Promising PA...POOR outcome!
I got the piercing, high pitch noise from the column. Sending me crazy
Do you need to use a pallet to test if your Bose L1 is not stable
In the upload 8:35, the unstable PRO16 column is also tested indoors on a solid hardwood floor
Not gonna test a $1799 PA outdoors in the mud, hence pallet
Can you tell me the differences between the prx one and db1203(using in mono setup single column stack) in terms of spl/bass output?
I've bough the prx first, feels like a cheap toy column, similar connection to the bose pro16, thin, fragile material...
After 2 hour using it I can't stand to see the limiter led start to flash when the system is on 75%, tops can get louder but the bass can't keep this increment, even using hp filter...
So I returned and changed with db1203... Different animals, wood cabinet, solid connections...
You are the best judge on how you spend your own money. "Any" and "Every" PA can earn you good money. Go with your gut
@@opaz. 🙄
Did you try it without the extension, and if so, did it still rock back and forth?
Without extension Kenny, it's so much more solid!
@@opaz. Thank you for your reply.
Thank you! Just ordered a Pro 32 and hoping it doesn't sway like that because it's metal on metal. Fingers crossed.
🤞🏻 will be interesting to know how it goes!
where did you order from... mine not getting here for another month from Sweetwater
UK
@@TomDavisVideo I ordered from Sweetwater and they estimated 2nd week of January.
@@jeremybouchard9898 zzSounds was advertising get it by Dec 28 so I did a chat with them and they said yes. Today I looked at the product page. Get it by Jan 26. So maybe they were trying to entice ordering through them- and maybe Bose caught wind of it ....because every other dealer was mid January
CANCEL ORDER!!! Unacceptable column design. Both the plastic connection and the unsturdy column (sway). You are on point. For Approximately $1800 this needs to be redesigned. Will look into other p.a. systems and reconsider if bose makes things right. Very dissapointed.
wow - thanks for that. The L1II doesn't have this issue, so there will be no need to upgrade
Do they have this same wobble issue on the L1 Pro8? I was just wondering since the stem is much lighter on the Pro8.
No idea, I'd like to know also!
Yes, same problem.
Jeff, same problem with the 8?
@@jefftait7812: Thought it was only on the 16. Did you test the 8 with and without the spacer?
In this case I agree with you..... But bose always best sounding system 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Uggg I demo'd and preferred them against everything in the store. Gonna wait and hope they can do better in the near future. I'll continue to use my heavy yamahas for now.
ok the fixing system is bad but
how it sounds against ES1203 or Evolve 50 ?
is it worth the price ?
It sounds like a large radio, goes loud sounds clear, not crystal clear as I often hear. EV has better HF and LF performance but lacks the mids of the Pro16. When it comes to price (value for money), the ES is available in white, it is mono & stereo & £500 cheaper. Say no more!
@@opaz. ok, thank you for your opinion, I have the ES1203 it's a good system, that can sound very loud and is not very expensive but the bass is not really deep.
I was wondering how that would compare with more expensive systems like L1 pro 16 or Evolve 50.
Pro16 LF performance cannot touch the EV. That tiny 12" sub is very impressive outclassing the larger 18×12. The ES double 12 is better than both
@@opaz. ok, so i'm going to keep my es1203 and maybe add a subwoofer to improve the deep bass a little weak
wow, we have very different taste or hearing. All those years at the London School of Audio Engineering and in the studio mixing Gorillaz ...wasted. More bass, honestly, you are joking 🤣
I was going to get The L1 Pro16 but I don't think I am going to anymore. I wonder how the L1 Pro32 will be.
It seems the 32 has both metal column parts with the drivers in so I expect you'll be ok. Do you think it's worth nearly 3K?
John, when you get your 32 would be interesting to hear what you think
Really disappointing.
I've got the previous L1 Model II at present. The plastic electrical connections look the same but the pole connections are solidly constructed: those L1 II array poles aren't going anywhere.
Is the L1 Pro 16 array "solid" without the extension piece?
I was looking to change to the Pro 16: less pieces, lighter, more powerful but the same Bose Sound but now I feel really let down by Bose.
It's a lot more solid without using the extension piece but you just don't get the height
@@opaz. What's the overall system height the extension piece?
Not in front of it at the moment but 2-3 inches shorter than Evolve 50
1966mm, just under 2m, 77.4"
Wow thanks ,I won't be getting one ,I work at kids party s too unsafe , l1 compact better this is an accident waiting to happen i think ,spot on reveiw
Good luck Barney! 👍🏼
soundwise compare to Db1203?
dB more power, tons more LF and better HF. I prefer dB....Pro16 doesn't sound as exciting
GOOD INFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the video. I've been looking at the Bose L1 and have heard others say the same thing. Poor construction. Thats terrible. I would be pissed if I shelled out that kind of money for something that wobbled like that. Bose should be embarassed. I've crossed the L1 off my list.
I had the original Maui 28, drunks would always lean on the column and talk to me, I’d slap their hands when they got to point of annoying me, that Bose, that would worry me ...thanks for the video 🙂
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Get the L32 pro sub 2 blown away
Hope for them the 32pro wont be the same... ill keep my f1 kit! Sold my 1203 never liked the sound... evolve 50 are hard to beat especially from now on with the small events
I'd never spend nearly 3K on the 32 pro
Me neither... i tough the sub2/16pro sub would be way more powerful anyway...
Lacklustre sub, standard really
Lets say i lose the spacer or i just dont want to use it, will it still function normally?
yes
Think of the spacer as just a thing that puts the tweeter section further away. Electrically, it's just more wire. Losing the spacer only means that the tweeter section will be lower to the ground, which will only have acoustic ramifications, not electrical.
OK so the Electra voice is built better than the bars. But what about sound quality which one sounds the best because we are buying something for sound not something for stability. If we were looking for ultrastable we would probably just go with the old style PA system and not bother with this new crap. Please let me know your findings
The pro16 sounds like a big radio that's it, The ev is actually awake and more of an attractive buy when it comes to sound. All of this is (in my opinion) but it has weak mids.
They both have pros and cons. As they tirelessly keep saying 🥱 yawn yawn yawn "sound is subjective". Demo them
Tell you the honest truth I'd rather buy subs and tops or 2 good 15's for how i like things to sound. I only say "how I like things to sound" as it's my money paying for the equipment
Compact colums are only good for keeping things discreet and keeping equipmentweight down. The consequences are that sound quality suffers
We all buy a product for stability (build quality) as well as sound and value for money. Don't let manufacturers hear that we don't otherwise
Bose will continue building failures like this.
Thank you very much for your great review.. Please can you recommend me a good PA system brand with a good quality sound, with Bluetooth option to buy?
I am a singer and I was just this close to buy the BOSE L1 PRO 16 .
i want a PA system to be able to use for outdoor venues..
And BOSE customer service told me through a phone consultation that the L1 PRO 16 was perfect for an audience number of 200 people.
Please if you can recommend me a good brand PA system with good quality sound for outdoors for a venue of 200 people..
Thanks..
I'm commenting here because I am searching for the same thing [a pair for DJ use]. I LOVE the Bose L1Pro16 sound but the physical build quality is a deal-breaker methinks. I have used 2 x L1Pro8 for year and they also sound fantastic [but not loud enough for the bigger venues we'll be at], and although the build quality is the same, it manifests itself much less so because the top sections are smaller/lighter.
well i just bought the new pro 32 and sub 2,..with the tonematch mixer close to $4,000,......if any of this shits goin on,... theres gonna be trouble,... & it will be sweetwaters problem.
Yes that's to loose that's supposed to be more steady than that
Yup, poor fit
Look cool but inherently flawed design. If the base were inset a couple more inches leaving a more substantial supporting "collar" then it wouldn't wobble very much. Plus, when connected via Bluetooth you're only connected to 1 stack at a time. If you want to send Bluetooth audio out to one stack and connect an other to it via cabling you only get mono audio not stereo so no stereo separation!
I agree with all 👍🏻
Bose needs to recall this model
Absolutely!
Just wow. That spacer needs to dig in deep at least 5 inches into the sub for any sort of tight fit. Bose spent most of their effort into the sound engineering and totally overlooked the form fit. I can't fathom the idea of that entire column arrays height and weight is only supported by that ultra flimsy connection. Agree, total fail.
Now I’m suscribed.
I’m following you but I find you a little hater vs Bose. It cannot be that bad. I was considering the pro16 but you considered that almost garbage!
I was considering the pro32 without sub and add
My own sub but because the weight. Not just the quality
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my upload above is not hate, the same goes for my bose l1 upload. Nothing but praise!
Pioneer with their latest all-in-one controllers are carrot danglers, whereas Denon are the opposite with theirs. Bose brand their products blatantly overprice for what they produce, I've tried & tested enough to come to that conclusion
If products from any manufacturer don't cut it, I will reveal why!
Many state bose as "the best", if that was so I shouldn't be able to create a fail upload. When it comes to the 16 with the high pitch piercing sound and the unstable column. .. is that "the best"?
I love the Bose sound, and was about to recommend 2 x L1 Pro 16 for the ecstatic dance organization I work for but when I saw one set up at a local music store I couldn't believe how cheap and wobbly it was. Do the EV50s sound as "hi fi" as the Bose? Or any other recommendation for a system with heavy part that stays on the floor?
The EV50 doesn't have good mids but is much more stable on the floor. There are many similar style alternative systems to choose from, depending what you're looking for. Pro 16 design/build quality is dreadful
I'm looking for something with a very "hi fi" sound, like Bose. Nothing harsh and aggressive. The "loudness" should be derived from the deep clear bass, not from SPL for the sake of it. If Bose kept the same build quality as before, it would be a no-brainer to buy the L1 Pro 16. I wonder what the Bose F series is like, with subwoofer and top speaker. I realize it would be a little more complicated to set up (2 power cables, 2 audio cables).
You will need to demo the f series
The Evolve comes out of the box eqed so that it lacks midrange, but you can dial it up through its DSP.
Live preset helps
I feel so heartbroken that I won't be getting one.
Don't feel so downhearted. Keep smiling, you got a lucky escape!
@@opaz. Hey brother. No sooner Bose L1 Pro32 with Sub2 releases please make " problems " video about that too.
I'm on it 👍🏻
@@opaz. thank you❤️
You won a subscriber 😉
I'll demo but not buy it. Its nearly 3K, not worth it no way!!!!.. That is way too much for a PA with 128dB.
For that money I want 2 subs not 1 and a peak at 136dB minimum
Purchased two BOSE L1 Pro 16 units. The instructions state it must be updated before it is used. Why it doesn't come updated from the factory is beyond me. The first one updated just fine. The second unit failed to connect. Hours upon hours of trouble shooting, I called BOSE support and they advised me to take it back. Took it back to Guitar Center and came home with a replacement. BOOM! Nothing. Same issue as the last one. Called BOSE support again and they said they would get back to me "within a few days." Took that one back today and received yet a third replacement. This one also fails to update but on top of that, the lighting on the mixer is sketchy and appears to have got past QA. When I return this one, it will be my 4th unit. I am 1/2 tempted to just return both and be done with it. When you shell out this kind of coin for an item, it should work right out the box, no questions asked. What a disappointment.
Omg, what’s the latest on what’s transpired for you, I’m considering the Pro 16 and cringing reading your comments. So sorry to hear.
THAT WOBBLY COLUMN LOOKS LIKE A COBRA RAISING ITS HEAD READY TO ATTACK
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I would be very disappointed as well... I can’t believe they would release this product with their name on it! 😳 wonder who they had test these? Whoever it was clearly didn’t have a lot of sense! I pre ordered the l1 pro32 I pray they didn’t cut corners on it because it’s my first Bose purchase ever.🙏🏻
Good luck
Long time BOSE fan, but I'm not buying these until they fix this problem.
One year later, has the sway / fitting issue been resolved by Bose as far as you know?
@@Andy1x I don't think so. Seems Bose is being left behind by some companies. EV just came out with a new battery powered weatherized portable PA system...
@@philipapong7352 Thanks! Sad to hear they just let it go. As much as I would love to own the Bose, I’m leaning toward the EV 30m.
i dont have that problem. I am pretty sure Bose can fix that,
You should upload this evidence, I'm sure many new prospective buyers would love to see it
Totally agree!!!shabby build quality!!!metal being supported by plastic!!!bose engineers should be sacked for even suggesting that rubbish!!!
Are you imply that the evolve 5-0 is better?
The Pro16 has suspect build quality and a high pitch noise from the column. Is this bose quality?
The Evolve 50 is built so much better
@@opaz. thx for the reply. I sold my two Bose L1 compact and bought an evolve 50m and was wondering if I had made a mistake. Should return the 50m and buy 2 pro8’s
Seppe did you do a sound demo?
My advice and opinion is exactly that. You really need to make sure that YOUR choice suits YOU.
What are you using the pa for?
@@opaz. acoustic gigs with a cajon
was gonna buy the 16 and tested it for an hour here at Guitar Center Winter Park Florida. Loved the sound on my Kremona flamenco guitar with pickup but I noticed this swaying when I was positioning the speaker away from the wall. SMH! $1800 NO THANKS so unfortunate. So much for waiting for the re-design of the L1.
Maybe if a model 2 comes out in a year or two they may correct the fault or go for the 8 instead
@@opaz. I've already pulled the trigger on a EV 50. The build, FX and 3 band EQ on the app sold me. If I don't like the sound I'll send it back. Thanks for the review!
Don, Is this the 50M?
@@opaz. Yep just $200 more and 2 more xlr inputs and variety of FX. We'll see how it sounds compared to the 16 which sounded really nice especially the mids (very important for the guitar)
Good luck, did you get a expected delivery date?
I played one gig with Bose: excellent sound, cheap plastic build. Brought it back the next day and got an ev evolve 30 m. Bose will break!
The 30M is echoed by many buyers lately. I may just demo one!
Evox 8! Same price point, equal sound quality and way better construction!!
I just went to see the pro 8 and I did notice the same thing..
Oh dear!
The Pro8 has the same support design, but because the top section with the tweeters is half the size/weight, the problem isn't nearly as obvious. I haven't notice a high pitch whine though; I'll have to listen closely next time I'm near one.
you got a lemon
Sure did 🍋
My LD Systems Maui 11 G2 columns are made from aluminium and have precision steel pins for keeping the parts in place. Very solid, zero sway.
Bose should 've done more real life testing before giving green lights to these plastic 'sockets'. This looks very cheap.
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Imagine how it comes after 10 events that you have... everything will arrive twisted or in pieces ...
they forgot that we are Mobile DJ? 🤦♂️
Exactly!!!!
I have Bose pro 16 ,no problem...
Firstly, thank you so much for the review of this appalling issue. It is not often that I am moved to make comment!
Just before Covid lockdown, I actually purchased the Bose L1 Compact and, of course, ended up never using it in "the real world" due to the pandemic. Consequently therefore, just in-house use so far.
Perhaps not surprisingly, if I had been purchasing such system right now, I would probably go for the "Pro 8" .... more mixer facility, reverb', app' etc. In fact, with the thought of "upgrading" to a "Pro 8" firmly in mind, it was during my surveying the reviews, demo's and marketing stuff for the "Pro 8" that I came across your report. My goodness, am I glad I did!
I know that your review is specifically regarding the "Pro 16", rather than the "Pro 8", but, based on what you have clearly shown, I will now definitely not purchase either of them. Irrespective of how good it sounds and all it's other attributes, I cannot tolerate flimsy! Frankly, Bose might well know how to do Sound Engineering, but what you have shown illustrates that they could well do with paying significant attention to their Mechanical Engineering expertise! The column section join detail is pathetic and, in my view, whoever designed & passed it as "fit for purpose" should be relieved of their duties! Producing mechanically robust, rigid, column connections is easy for goodness sake ........ it is beyond me why a company with the world-wide reputation of Bose allows such a woefully bad feature to sully their otherwise desirable product. Pitiful!
Glyn!. ..I couldn't have put it better myself. When brands think they can survive from their name and churn out substandard products and happily take our cash. .. that's not on. I hope other potential customers view and ponder over your extremely valuable comments. 👍🏼
I have used 2 x Bose L1 Pro8 for about a year [in a DJ context] and although it has the same pole-connect design as the L1 Pro16, it is much less wobbly and embarrassing. That's because the top part with the tweeters is much shorter, and the extender column is much longer, so it isn't as top heavy. They sound great, but as I have mentioned in another post, I'm looking to buy something louder than the L1 Pro8, and the L1 Pro16 exactly fits that bill sonically [a very "hi fi" sound], but I am hesitant because of its poor build quality. I only need a line input; no built in mixer is necessary since DJs use an external mixer.
That's expectable that's a alot of money to just be like that wack!!
Shame on Bose for the $ use not use cheap plastic....
Let’s make aircraft wings rigid too ? Dont you think the designers are aware at Bose who are probably the leading experts of this field ? 😊
aircraft wings? .. . think you're on the wrong channel 😆
Ha Ha, we ain't related are we!
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I love my Bose L1 model 1s... this one looks crappy.
Oh dear!
@@opaz. i was thinking of upgrading into this new model, until i saw your video. Thanks for the heads-up.
No worries Raymund
They should be ashamed 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Not acceptable
Many thanks for this video! You saved my money :-) Is this issue also at older Bose L1 model II ? I had a chance to hear Bose L1 model II with B2 bass module i the past and the sound was great. Therefore I was thinking about this new 16Pro set (probably two sets). Or should I rather go for EV Evolve (30m, 50 or 50m) or RCF Evox 8 v2? Stability is important for me as well, not only good sound.
50M best of the 3 you mention
Or pro32
@@opaz. Yes, I am thinking about it, it has great feature QuickSmart Link which allows to double number of inputs when two 50m are used. 3 inputs at Bose is also disadvantage:-( I only have not chance to hear any Evolve yet. RCF Evox 8 sounds ok but Bose L1 model II with B2 was better 😀 Nice sound everywhere in the room.
That's what I don't like. They gotta sell their t4s so they scrimp on inputs on their overpriced PA's
@@opaz. Btw, I do not know if it is possible to use T4S ( connected by ToneMatch RJ45 cable) simultaneously with inputs which are on L1 Pro. I was checking the manual, no answer there 😞
the DB system is about $1000 more than the Bose, so....
The pro16 costs 400 more then the db system
I have sold mine too, that's an old video, the turntable was a cheap Eon cd recorder.
Don't believe it... I had a ion lp2 cd recorder 😆
design FAILED. smh.
Correct!
@@opaz. on that price bose should made the connector in metal and more secure. did you notice any hissing sounds also coming from the speaker?
Yes, far too much plastic for that kind of money. I'll test the Bluetooth, haven't tested it yet.
I've given up on the whole system to be honest. Will test and get back to you!
sent ours back overpriced plastic the 32 is ridiculously expensive
Afraid to ask, but Bose never corrected this issue with a product update, did they? I love the sound of this system but as you said no QC and the assembly is sloppy, poor, and risky for owners.
I know they make tons of products and make millions from them but the most important people to bose should be their customers (well I thought it was!) but here they didn't listen and with the quality (or lack of it) with new products like these. Welcome to the new bose
He's absolutely right. Ours sways the same way. I thought one of our Crew Members broke it.
Oh dear!
Apparently, bose have stated that the column wobble is a myth. I would love bose to upload a setup video of the L16, showing this myth
It's a result of POOR BUILD & POOR DESIGN
The high pitch sound from the column was the very last straw for me
EV sound has always been terrible