Bose L1 Pro8 versus Turbosound IP1000 - Acoustic Guitar Demo
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- Bose L1 Pro8 versus Turbosound IP1000 - Acoustic Guitar Demo, Martin DC-18E (Standard D-18, Cutaway w/Baggs Anthem PU)
Bose L1 Pro8 Tonematch Profile = Baggs iMix Blend - เพลง
beautiful playing dude loved it. transported me
Thank you for the very kind words! Made my day!
Thanks for the demo Gary, I was on the fencw about buying Bose L1 Pro8, but you sold me, I ordered one right after listening to your demo.
I own a pair of the Turbosound IP2000 speakers and am thinking about adding a pair of the IP1000's so I very much appreciate your video. My experience is in live sound engineering for the past 30 years and for my two cents, the Turbosound speaker reproduces a much more accurate, clean sound. While the new Bose system is an improvement over their old model it still does not match up to the Turbosound. BTW the Turbosound app does have built in reverb for each input channel. I love your guitar playing and thanks again for the video.
My Turbosound was an older model that did not have Reverb. I think they added that in the Version 2 (for the IP1000). I think the Turbosound is a very good system and it covers the entire frequency range. But I find it harsher and more challenging when I am standing right in front or next to the Turbosound versus the Bose. The Bose works a lot better for me up close. Because of the shows I play, sometimes I have no choice regarding placement. Thank you for the compliments on my guitar playing. Much appreciated.
@@gair1944 you're essentially comparing an older model Turbosound to a newer model Bose. Perhaps comparing the version 2 Turbosound would be a better comparison? Nonetheless you did a great job with that phenomenal playing of yours! Keep it up buddy!
@@madness8556 You are correct that I did not have the Turbosound IP1000 Version 2 that includes reverb. But otherwise the tower, sub and overall voice is identical. They just added reverb if I recall. So I think this comparison was still relatively close. Ultimately, I sold my Turbosound IP1000 shortly after making this video and I bought a second Bose L1 Pro 8 so I can now use a pair. They are phenomenal. Much much easier to carry and lighter than the Turbosound in my experience. The Turbosound is (or was) significantly less expensive so that gives a nod to the IP1000. But I also found the Turbosound was harsher sounding to my ears when I was too close. But I have have the Bose right next to me or behind me and it sounds great. I like hearing the mix the audience is getting. For me, The Bose is the superior tool for what I want.
SWEET playing ! Im in love with the BOSE sound -
Thank you! I gig often and it’s always great for my needs
Great review thanks. Thinking about trying a L1Pro8 for amplifying my upright bass and pleased to see that some of the EQ presets are for bass instruments, including some David Gage settings.
Hi Bill, I major in music on bass in college and am more of a trained bass player than guitarist. I don't play upright anymore but I play 5 string electric in my band and duo. When my duo gigs, I play my Sadowsky and Nordstrand basses direct into the Bose L1 Pro 8. I am amazed how good it works. Please let me know if your try your upright bass through an L1 Pro 8. I won't be the least bit surprised if it doesn't sound great! and the App is so much easier to use to change settings.
Turbosound IP1000 totally wins
You do great demos, Gary. Much appreciated. I’m so impressed by that Baggs pickup.
The Turbosound sounds just like I would expect my Martin to sound plugging in without any work, and it doesn’t offer the tools to properly correct it. The Bose has some serious processing going on - both EQ and multiband compression - and there’s no doubt it is very well programmed. I can hear why you like it so much, and why it is so popular. Typically, pro engineers prefer to do their own processes on a mixer and I can’t imagine using the Turbosound without using a very good one. Bose seems to step just up to the line of doing too much to the input signal. Turbosound hasn’t done nearly enough.
Thank You Peter. Your observations are well taken. The Bose for me is simply Plug & Play, and there is great flexibility to further shape the tone with the APP or onboard the Bose Sub model where the tone controls reside. I sold the Turbosound after doing these demo's. The Bose is more user friendly and always works well. My duo partner and band mate bought one also and now we use a pair for our Duo shows and smaller band shows.
I am doing this comparison (virtually) before I purchase. I agree the Bose sounds amazing. But will it cover a crowd as well as the ip1000? I think the Bose has significantly less wattage, and moderately lower SPL. Would the Bose be enough for an outdoor crowd of 75-100? How does it compare to the Turbosound in that situation?
Love the guitar playing 🙂....from the start, the Turbo sound sounded louder and fuller to me but acoustics is perception, what one person hears will be different from the next thanks so much for the review. I must admit I'm not hearing anything that would convince me to swap my two IP1000 v2 for two Bose if someone offered but that's just me.
Understood. What the videos don’t tell you is standing right in front or next to the turbosounds can be harsh and feedback prone. The speakers in the turbo sound tower address different frequencies where the tower speakers in the Bose are all the same. The Bose sounds more even and I am confident I am hearing the same mix the audience hears. The Bose are infinitely easier to carry. As often as I gig that’s a huge deal. And the abose tonematch settings are very well
Voiced and useful. Simply put there is a lot more value in all the Bose offers (for ME). Your mileage may vary. That’s ok too
@@gair1944 Thanks so much for the reply and information. I will certainly check the Bose out as I use my Turbosound's for Karaoke and when I have 4 mics on stage sometimes do struggle with feed back, especially if I'm pushing the volume. Also, I've noticed that the Turbosounds sound very bassy if standing behind them. Which is where I normally am sited. Probably because Im behind the 180 degree dispersion from the arrays, where all the treble and mid is. Might try putting them behind and see what happens ......Thanks again.
Muchas gracias, tú aporte me ayudo a tomar una buena decisión. Dios te bendiga y recompense por el tiempo que invertiste en este video.
Hello Gary, great job on your videos. I really enjoy your demonstration and playing sounds great. I was wondering can you add additional sub to L1 Pro8 or L1 Pro16?
Thanks Preston. I am not aware of a Bose sanctioned answer to that question. But I wonder if you could use the line output and send that to an external powered sub? If the sub has a crossover it seems like it would work. ??
Hello. Thanks for the video. What pedalboard are you using for the acoustic guitar???
Nice review my friend
Thank you. I Hope it was useful
Turbo sound drawback is heavy! Bose light and sound is heavenly!
Probably the Turbosound ip300 is the best choice for singer+guitar. Reverb on board. Pretty decent Lows, hi fi sound.
I'm hearing a beautiful shimmer in the top end of the Bose that I do not hear on the TS.
I’m not a guitarist (vocals, frame drum, kalimba - just weird, beautiful, exotic stuff…), but I can appreciate guitar tone enough to hear what I needed to hear in this video. The Bose definitely wins in my book! I was really tempted by the Turbosound’s price point, but it just sounds a bit more harsh and jangly. I think I’ll bite the bullet…
That said, the brash edginess of the Turbosound might be just right for some applications. In fact, I hope the Bose isn’t too smooth for my current project, which can get a little guttural, and has full drums… Hopefully its beauty is worth the risk!
My band uses a pair of Bose L1 Pro 8's and we mic the kick drum everytime. It is very impressive.
If you want to get guttural and a bit loud … the turbosound will fill the space a bit better. It looks like there is a big mid scoop on the TS app, which will effect the presentation. Smiley face eq curve isn’t good
Turbosound LP1000 is significantly heavier and only goes to 50Hz on the low end vs 42Hz on the Pro 8. For me, SQ, portability, and tone control are just right on the L1 Pro 8. I'm not concerned about the moderate price difference on gear that I'll be using for many years. An all-in-one portable setup and great SQ are my primary requirements. If needing significantly higher SPL without those requirements, Turbosound would be nice.
I sold the Turbosound after this demo. I have been having great success with the Bose L1 Pro 8. Absolutely love it.
You're a bloody phenomenal player! I thought that Turbosound also had built in reverb as they advertise that?
Thank you so much my friend. The Turbosound IP1000 I had was the earlier version before they added reverb to the Version 2.
To me the turbo sound much cleaner then the bose. I totally would get the turbo instead. The comparison hmm you kept adjusting the turbo and still blew the bose hands down lol. It seams that you have preference and can't actually hear the the better sound. Overall turbo wins but I still think that you prefer the base and didn't have an open mind to do a true comparison
Harsh sound on the turboS compared to Bose Subscribed!
I prefer the Bose and sold the turbosound after I made this comparison demo.
Is the vocal preamp is good as bose? Im more of a singer than a guitarist
On the non Bose can you get reverb on the vocal channel ? Or do you need a separate mixer ? I believe the Bose has that capability which is a huge benefit for performers
With the turbo sound
I am using a tc helicon harmony singer pedal with reverb. Or a mixer.
The newer turbo sound has reverb I think?
Gary you are correct, my newer turbo sound ip1000 has reverb built-in.
What version of the ip1000 are you running because I bought one in July of 2021 and it absolutely has reverb built in and sounds amazing! Just curious
That was the original version before reverb was available
Shain how are you enjoying the ip1000? There is no one around me that carries new or used ip1000 so I have no way to hear one live. I thought it sounded great in the videos.
Hey Gary love the sound of you’re guitar. Does it have Lr baggs anthem which one the sl anthem or the anthem. Where did you purchase the guitar?
Thanks Joe. This is the FULL Anthem. I have this PU in two other guitars and have had it in three others. (Collings and Gibson J45) Single best Plug n play PU that is more feedback resistant than any others and so musical.
Sounds great I really want a guitar that sounds like this tone full and rich
@@joe_casinoacoustic1773 This Ambertone is NOT the HDC-28E you commented on (from another TH-cam video I made) I sent that Ambertone HDC-28E back and got a Natural HDC-28E like Aaron Shorts guitar. I already had this AMAZING DC-18E and I actually prefer the DC-18E. But my HDC-28E is stunning too. Since they don't make them as a current model, I am really glad to have both the HDC-28E and the DC-18E (Both with Factory installed Baggs Anthem PU's) Martin did a very short run of this model, and with the Baggs Anthem. I tried the model with the Fishman Aura VT enhance and I profoundly prefer the Baggs Anthem. They sound great through the Bose!
@@gair1944 so the guitar in this video is the d18
I’m a singer guitarist which one would suit me better the hdc28 or the dc18
I think the Bose systems are really well voiced for acoustic guitar and vocals. If you were a DJ or relying on prerecorded music, you might prefer some of the other brands. For my money the Bose are really well made for singer songwriters.
I tend to agree David. The L1 Pro8 may be borderline for DJ's in terms of output and power but sounds great for small ensemble, vocals. acoustic instruments etc. I used a pair of L1 Pro8's at a wedding recently with my acoustic duo. I play my 5 string bass straight into one of the channels. It handles the Low B string with authority but there is a limit. We never exceeded that personally. It works great at our reasonable volume level. When we DJ'd music on our breaks the pair sounded really good. But some DJ's will want more thump. They would be better served with the L1 Pro 16 that has a lot more power and more array speakers.
PS: Is this MartinGitDave from the AGF forum?
@@gair1944 ;-)
Congratulations for such a good video.. in your opinion which one gives better sound even with music like Fleetwood Mac?
Both would be fine. I prefer the Bose
Thanks for your advice I will buy Bose greetings from El Salvador
My phone is still a 2015.,I'm one of those resistant to all the new technology...but yeah it sounds great....
Thank you
Does the Bluetooth aux input to the Turnosound function the same as the bose? I would be using this with electric guitar, mic, and backing tracks. "Gigs" will be tiny. Somewhere between deck/bbq jams and small beer garden settings. Deciding between one Bose or two of the IP1000s.
Jim, I really don't know about the Bluetooth Aux on the Turbosound,. I might have used it once for playing break music, but its been a really long time. I recently decided to sell my Turbosound because the Bose is more versatile and way easier to carry.
@@gair1944 Thanks Gary. I'll give it a go and if they don't pair properly I'll just run them like mains off my mixer.
Gary, I ended up with a pair of the Bose L1Pro8s and the 8 channel Bose mixer. Best gear choice in years
The turbo sound has more bottom end
Also if you used a sound hole cover it may help with feedback issues
I use one in all my acoustics when performing even with my Bose Compact
I sold the Turbosound since making this video. I prefer the Bose significantly. In my duo I plug my 5 String Bass directly into one channel of the Bose and it is exceptional as well. Better and not musical than the Turbosound. My band mate bought a Bose L1 Pro 8 as well. We use the pair for our Band and often for our duo. Amazing sound and no feedback.
@@gair1944 I’m still waffling on the pro 8 I have compact now and wondering if the pro 8 really gives me much more since in my duo I’ll still have to run a separate mixer
I’ve been checking out the evolve 30m which has a 6 channel mixer with effects built in
@@slakethesnake We all need to choose the tool that is best for our needs. In my duo, we started using the Bose T4S Tonematch. I can't explain it other than system synergy but it always sounds amazing. Uses the Cat 5 tone match cables to the Bose L1 Pro so it doesn't need another power cord. Sounds amazing. Our other mixer was a QSC Touchmix 8 which is arguably a great mixer, but a lot bigger and more than we needed.
@@gair1944 yes I know the tone match gives more channels but it’s another $700 on top of the $1200 for the pro 8
@@gair1944 question
Do you still have access to the inputs on the Bose unit itself when you are using the tonematch?
I owned two Bose Compact L1's before, in 2015. I used them for playing mostly jazz on my arch-tops. They where not powerful enough for a trio setting (drums, bass). And these could not handle the mids on ANY of my arch-tops. There was always a slight buzzing around the mid D's. Returned one of them on the Bose warranty, thinking one of the speakers had busted. They came back with the same problem. I hope that the L1 Pro8 is a fix to this problem!
Interesting. I’ll have to check for that
Please compare bose l1 pro8 vs evolve 30m vs yamaha 1k....thank you.
Is one L1 Pro8 louder than 2 S1 Pro? How many people can each set up handle for wedding ceremony?
I only have one Bose S1 pro but it quickly reaches its useable volume limit. I would take the Bose L1 Pro8 any time. The Bose L1 Pro 8 dispersion is so much better and I’d rather carry the L1 Pro 8 than a pair of S1 Pro’s and Stands
About to purchase a bose. Have you had issues with the column wabbling and also a hissing sound coming from it?
No hissing. The wobble concerns are not an issue for me. Just make sure the top speaker and the taller speaker extension is well seated. No issues. I bought a second L1 Pro8 and love them
@@gair1944 thanks for your reply. That is what I will get tomorrow then. I also am not worried about the wobble since it will be on stage behind me anyways.
Hello, can you compare Bose L1 pro8 with JBL eon one pro? There is a JBL eon one pro. After watching your video introduction, I'm going to buy a Bose L1 pro8. Thank you
My duo partner has a jbl EON one Pro. It lacks the headroom that the Bose offers and the Bose App is infinitely helpful and user friendly. Did you get the Bose L1 Pro8?
I have a question, which subwoofer has the best and more powerful sound or best low frequencies?
The Bose subwoofer is more capable in my opinion. And it’s easier to carry.
The Bose sounds so much more fuller
As a Ip1000 user … I’m not into the big mid scoop expressed here … that juicy midrange is where it’s at. If feedback is the issue, move off center just a little bit.
Solid argument to go for the Bose. The Turbo Sound is decent but not close to the pure tone of the Bose.
I agree. I sold the TurboSound shortly after making this comparison.
How does the Bose L1 Pro8 compare to the S1Pro?
The L1 Pro8 is vastly larger, more powerful, versatile and out performs the S1 Pro for volume, projection and flexibility in larger situations
Why compare an older version of the Turbosound with the latest version from Bose? Also, I believe there is a $500 price difference. V2 has been out for awhile and has Clark-Teknik DSP. While these new Bose models certainly sound warmer than my old L1S, not noting the price difference is tantamount to not recognizing the elephant in the room. Plus the tone match mixer makes a big difference for the Bose. I believe retail for the TM 4 channel is at least $499.
Why compare? Because it's what I owned, so I compared. (And I sold the Turbosound shortly after this demo) The Bose is WAY more user friendly. The new Bose has many Tonematch settings built in. I don't feel the need for the mixer at all. So the tantamount difference for my needs and several singer/guitarists is the Bose L1 Pro 8 stands on its own quite well for many.
Hey, has anybody experienced overheating with IP1000 V2 or V1? I just received a brand new one and after 2 hours of usage the back panel got really hot and I'm concerned that electronic components might get damaged overtime. I would really appreciate if somebody shared experience. Thanks!
Mine never overheated or had any issues. I have some sold it in favor of the current Bose L1 Pro 8.
@@gair1944 but it got hot, right?
@@BrunoKrnetic I dont honestly remember. I sold it a couple of years ago.
@@gair1944 Thanks for the response anyway. Your video was one of the go to videos when deciding for the PA. Cheers!
Turbosound not bad...👍👍
The turbosound has a highly credible. It is a Lot heavier physically and was more prone to feedback up close. But you can’t argue with the value and quality for the money.
@@gair1944 Thanks for this! Been gigging with the IP1000 for a couple years and just ordered the Pro 8. Do you find the overall volumes to be comparable? I was a bit on the fence about overall volume but saw the SPL is similar (118 v 122). I think you said that you played a pretty good size outdoor gig and the pro8 was plenty loud?
@@scottheath4833 Hi Scott, I absolutely find the Bose L1 Pro8 as versatile as the Turbosound IP1000. Spec's might not portray the dispersion and quality of sound over a distance. I found the Bose to be more 'even' up close and farther away.
Muck appreciated! Pro8 should arrive before the weekend gigs so I am psyched to try it out.
Bose sounds thin in comparison.
The TS wins 1000 times
Thanks for watching.
Only Cuitar…..???? And Bose price is double….. 2 Ip 1000 vs Bose L1 pro8 would be fair. Bose 👎 ………..Turbosound 👍