Great detailed review! Would love to see you do the same comparison for the EV50 vs JBL PRX ONE. Couple of points you forgot: Bose column made of very thin aluminum easily dented compared to the heavy metal used in the previous L1M2, gigging musicians advised to buy heavy expensive hard cases, two channel mixer Bass/Treble no mids! Tone match mixer required should be free! No separate gain control for sub, my Maui5 has it! On the App no gain control for the aux line out, EV30m App has gain control, mute and EQ on the Aux channel!
There is one unique selling point for the Bose Pro line that no one has mentioned. You can literally stand or play a foot away from the column and it will not be overly loud at a good volume. Try that at 100dB+ with your typical top like QSC K12.2. Hope you are wearing ear protection!! At the same time DJs/performers report the tables closest to the array don't complain to turn it down. Again compare that with your typical point source 15"RCF?? Performers like the fact that they don't need to bring a separate monitor. Lower stage volume and feedback reduction are other selling points. These are the reasons Bose customers are willing to spend the extra $$$$.
Yet at that price, they still insist (in their advertising) that you spend even more money for more inputs/processing etc. Brands are throwing everything in one bundle, making them just as attractive Many still want value for money!
I recently moved to RCF 915 after using FBT for 7 years,the power difference is amazing and ive yet to see a red limiter light flashing.The RCF go harder for longer with little loss in the quality of sound.
I have listened to about six different l1 pro 16’s, never heard that high pitch…nor have I heard anyone else have that issue, sounds like you may have a defective unit. The soft hiss that I hear in mine is quite common with any ACTIVE system especially PA speakers, that’s how our sound crews check if the units are active and ready for sound check. I have run at least a dozen comparable units and really find the L1 pro one of the tops…price comparable!
Bose apparently stated that the wobble is expected in any similar array design They also state the pro16 meets the force stability requirements or tip testing requirements of the legacy L1. So Chris it seems that if it is ok to them, looks like no changes or alterations to come in the future pro products for us paying customers Nothing about the hi pitched noise unfortunately
I'm guessing all of these issues have been fixed, I just bought two of these and I'm not having ANY of these issues. But, not lie, it just sounds like you wanted a bunch of BS to complain about. What product do you actually like?
Hey opaz bose l1 pro16 or jbl prx one which bass is stronger and which has more spl even though jbl has more output and if you using a mixer with the pro16 which would you buy
I had two Pro16's, sent them both back. I never got a chance to compare the bass of both. I've been using two PRX ONE's ever since I cannot recommend the Pro16 due to the many issues it has
I remember when u were doing d demo of bose l1 pro16 u said it was really good and the jbl prx one d nobs were too loose so what made u choose jbl even though sound coverage is not as wide as bose
We(business) spend in Bose because people like it! As they think it sounds good. Nearly everyone loves sound from it. Also no other choice in market which offers such fidelity! Danley Sound Labs is also good but bulky.
@@opaz. well, I have noticed how people react to brands unknown to them, even if it's a good product.. they won't purchase/hire it. That's how society works. Turns out, people love the brand JBL far more than Bose, in my location.
I tried a Pro16 and heard an uncool hiss. Not the squealing like you heard, but the hiss typical of older PAs, and it was definitely louder than the Model II which by comparison is dead quiet, so I returned the Pro16. I don't know if the Pro8 suffers the same problem, but I'll find out soon enough. As for the wobble I found it nowhere as bad as I imagined. Of course it wobbles if you rock it back and forth with your hand (as any array will), but that's not normal use! The connections are more tight enough for normal use and will even withstand a hard bump. There's no way it's going to separate unless you push it hard enough that could damage other arrays. In my opinion, the wobble is seriously not an issue. But the hiss is very much an issue. My two cents :-)
In the case of Bose L1 Pro32, I'll elevate it to as high as possible with support. I'll use Bose RMS218 subs + Sub2 then I'll stack Bose L1 Pro32 on it. So that sound doesn't get much obstructed while people are nearby. Your videos are very helpful to me. ❤️
@@opaz. Was seriously thinking about getting this unit...but I'd mainly use it as a P.A. for those really quiet, intimate singer-songwriter solo gigs. That hiss would absolutely destroy those gigs, just unacceptable.
Totally agree Simon. When I heard it I thought of a scenario of a singer songwriter just at home or somewhere quiet, getting ideas together trying different types of material. They would find it extremely difficult to concentrate once they hear it. When music is playing loud you can't notice it but once it's switched on, it's there. Also I don't know if the noise will get worse over time. I wasn't gonna hang around with it to find out. Too many things not right about this PA. They call it PRO16, it's definitely not PRO!
@@opaz. price alone is disparaging considering the similar findings in common with other reviews. Even though I/we still use point source QSC K12.2 on a stands, have you had a go with Bose F1 812 or a RCF Evox 8 setup? Thanks for your reviews.
Totally disagree with this guy. I have the pro16 . It’s great. I’ve used it live many times. No issues, really loud. Sounds like he’s trying to bash Bose. Worried about stitching, and plastic, professional quality, he’s got the PA’s set up in busted up wooden crates. He talked, and bashed the whole video and no sound test, what!!!! Really! Come on dude. Talks about all the specs, but you didn’t hear either system😂😂😂.
I'm glad you took it the right way. I don't mean to offend, honestly.. not in my nature. The 16 isn't for me but tons of musicians etc it's perfect for them. My choices maybe trash to others, it's what pushes your buttons at the end of the day. 👍🏻 I'll send the links of demos etc if it helps Have a good one 😉
I'm currently struggling with the Pro16 for many of the reasons @opaz has mentioned. It's literally the noisiest PA I've owned in decades....and I've spoken with Bose several times about it and seem to be getting no viable solutions... to be honest, I'm gutted. I've been a Bose evangelist for over a decade now.... and this thing pretty much broke my heart.
When you describe the soundquality and behaviour of the Bose (lots of mids and wide spread), I think it must be aimed at singer-songwriters, who perform by singing and playing an acoustic guitar, and at moderators, corporate events. Not meant for dj's and dance music.
@@opaz. I think it’s also meant for DJs. I have 3 pro16s and thinking about purchasing another one. I started using Line Array a year ago with A pair of EVs Evolve 50. The evolve 50 are great but the Bose pro16 just sound so much better to me as a dj. I had 4 QSC k12.2 and 1 KS212C sub that I sold. This is my First Bose system and I love it. Only problem is the extended mount.
Thank you again Opaz for your work on this review. The sad part is this will not sway DJs away from using this product. They will buy it, and the tone match stuff to make it sound better. Some won't even do that. They will run this system as is and think they are killing the game. 🤣😅😂😅🤣😅🤣😂 If you are a performer, like with a keyboard or guitar I can see you wanting that flat, raw, mids-heavy sound. Or if you AR the engineer of a small band who prefers to do all the mixing on the final sound of the band. I totally get that, but I still feel there are better units out there for several hundred less that would definitely suit your purposes if completely blow the bose away. To the guy that said "we buy bose because people like it" youn sir are not being honest with us or yourself. You buy bose because you like saying you run a bose system. If ibhave learned one thing in my years of providing sound for clients is that they do not give 2 shits what you are using as long as it sounds decent and looks presentable. They care even less if it sounds great and looks great. The only.people that care are audiophiles, other djs, and you... cause again you like to say..."I run a fully bose system". More power to you I guess.
PLE!!! It is extremely refreshing to hear exactly what I was going to add in my upload (but it would have gone on for at least another 30 minutes) 🥱 😆😆😆 Exactly... The client and guests only care if you turn up.......$100 PA or one worth 10,000 😄😄🤑🤑🤑 as you so rightly say, NOBODY CARES That's why I said at the end "if you love it, yeah go and buy it" 😆😆 some people I'll never convince beyond the bose hypnosis The loyalists will suffer the wobble, suffer the screeching and suffer the extreme price and convince themselves that they have the best out there Too many things are coming to light: Race Track Driver???🤔 because its shaped like a stadium. These shape drivers are as old as time itself but described without the hype. Why have 32 drivers in a column???? 🤔, just have many fewer GOOD or BETTER ones. I could have been a lot more brutal but I'd be a hater 🙄 with no idea! This PA has been one that has exhausted me and taught me a lesson that I was already aware of to tell you the truth.... It's gotta GO!
The male female connectors are too shallow to be snuggle or precise, could result Viperating, the plastic extender is a joke, it feels like easily snapped off... Bose should lose the plastic extender and just do two columns of 8 speakers instead
I had to cut back the bass more than 0 (-3) on the EV because this upload was for column performance but you can get an idea how they sound for mids & highs. Link below: th-cam.com/video/qQojnQV30-Q/w-d-xo.html
My Bose Products sound better than my DB ES1203 and do not look at the specs as a way of judging things. It's just a reference. My Model II claimed only 124 max SPL and the DB Tech was 132 yet they were nearly the same volume when doing shootout at max volume outdoors. The way the speaker connects on the 16 is the same technology they have been using forever, and while it's a little wobbly, it's not going to break or affect anything. They have been like this for 15 years.
a little wobbly you must be high the sway was so bad tho been that way you say for 15yrs thats lame build quality, if you say spl is a guide then $3000 32 is same power as 16 cos only 4db split in bose vid craig says new l1 is most advanced l1 ever but still got old conect tech from 15 yrs ago what a letdown
Purchased two BOSE L1 Pro 16 units. The instructions state it must be updated before it is used. Why it doesn't come updated from the factory is beyond me. The first one updated just fine. The second unit failed to connect. Hours upon hours of trouble shooting, I called BOSE support and they advised me to take it back. Took it back to Guitar Center and came home with a replacement. BOOM! Nothing. Same issue as the last one. Called BOSE support again and they said they would get back to me "within a few days." Took that one back today and received yet a third replacement. This one also fails to update but on top of that, the lighting on the mixer is sketchy and appears to have got past QA. When I return this one, it will be my 4th unit. I am 1/2 tempted to just return both and be done with it. When you shell out this kind of coin for an item, it should work right out the box, no questions asked. What a disappointment.
Bad that from bose awful! Crazy! Has anyone else reported this yet...? 100% overpriced! If i had to help upcoming mobile dj, ill advise investing in HD45M or Promaxx114A
Where all these column systems continue to fall apart is price for sound and bass output. The sound community as a whole would never stand for a normal point source speaker that cost 1700.00, 1800.00 that put out less than 128db! Never but we give these column arrays a pass? Why? Right now my main system consist of one Evolve 50 that I have to support with a small 12 inches sub for bass because this system just does not deliver enough low end. The kids and high and throw is fine for most of my events, but the bass is trash. A Yamaha DXR 10 MK2, over a Yamaha DXS 15 MK2 would blow the top columns from bose, ev, turbosound, and RCF evox12 away for hundreds less. The Yamaha DXS12 would blow most of them away too, but I am afraid it would limit quickly. If you are not above mixing brand names the turbosound IP 300 over a good small rectangular sub is also a decent combo that will blow away most current column arrays. People want to like these things so much they just turn a blind eye to how stupid they actually are. It is a sad sad state of affairs man.
In a nutshell, I think alotta DJs are willing to sacrifice some db output for more convenience with setup & transport of these new column speakers. I use active speakers, but use both a seperate sub + top.
You know what PLE!!!! just this minute it hit me....you're right. We're saturated with these point source miniature subs popping up everywhere, with these poles sticking out of them (called column "arrays") that don't sound great. Great for portability and the spine but will never beat the excitement or impact of a good 18" sub with a good 12 above. 👍🏼
@@opaz. They could never fam! I bought a Turbosound IP300 top... and I should have bought like a Yamaha DXS12/15 MK2 or like an Rcf 705 asll to go with it... Instead I bought a lackluster evolve 50 that I have to supplement with another speaker for adequate bass. Absolutely Tragic... I should have stuck to my original plan fam.
I appreciate your alternative point of view. I would love to hear a comparison "A-B" I drank the Bose Koolaid years ago, and it's still in my system. I like the idea of the array set up, as well as the ease of setup and tear down. Not to mention the idea of using the mains as a monitor as well. I hope Bose and the other manufacturers will continue to improve. Thanks for your input. I'm sure your right.
Best comparison, straight up, to the point and honest. Thanks for saying it is how it is!
Thanks Val.
Bottom line is, we work hard for our money and we want the best. If it falls short of that, gotta be honest about it.
Thanks for you honest opinion and detail!!
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Might you can do a comparison video with l1 pro 16 and jbl prx one?
Great detailed review! Would love to see you do the same comparison for the EV50 vs JBL PRX ONE. Couple of points you forgot: Bose column made of very thin aluminum easily dented compared to the heavy metal used in the previous L1M2, gigging musicians advised to buy heavy expensive hard cases, two channel mixer Bass/Treble no mids! Tone match mixer required should be free! No separate gain control for sub, my Maui5 has it! On the App no gain control for the aux line out, EV30m App has gain control, mute and EQ on the Aux channel!
The column is extremely magnetic, if it is actually aluminium
There is one unique selling point for the Bose Pro line that no one has mentioned. You can literally stand or play a foot away from the column and it will not be overly loud at a good volume. Try that at 100dB+ with your typical top like QSC K12.2. Hope you are wearing ear protection!! At the same time DJs/performers report the tables closest to the array don't complain to turn it down. Again compare that with your typical point source 15"RCF?? Performers like the fact that they don't need to bring a separate monitor. Lower stage volume and feedback reduction are other selling points. These are the reasons Bose customers are willing to spend the extra $$$$.
Yet at that price, they still insist (in their advertising) that you spend even more money for more inputs/processing etc. Brands are throwing everything in one bundle, making them just as attractive
Many still want value for money!
Hello Friend how are you? Tell us what happened at the end of you came back? Did you buy others, how was your experience?
Can you do a update on the hdm
What do you need to know?
Hi, I would like to buy a speaker, I am going to use it for an acoustic guitar and voice duo, what do you recommend? RCF ebox 8 or Bose L1pro16?
I have never heard the RCF so cannot comment and . ..
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I recently moved to RCF 915 after using FBT for 7 years,the power difference is amazing and ive yet to see a red limiter light flashing.The RCF go harder for longer with little loss in the quality of sound.
Omg I was on my way to buying Pro 16. I had to pull over the car and watch ed this.
Thank you for your analysis.
My experience too.
Back to the drawing board.
😂😂 And to think I was about to order it online and ship it to Africa 😅
I have listened to about six different l1 pro 16’s, never heard that high pitch…nor have I heard anyone else have that issue, sounds like you may have a defective unit.
The soft hiss that I hear in mine is quite common with any ACTIVE system especially PA speakers, that’s how our sound crews check if the units are active and ready for sound check.
I have run at least a dozen comparable units and really find the L1 pro one of the tops…price comparable!
I wist bose returns dept could say the same!
You don't need to look very far to hear many similar stories to mine
Any info on the hissing and hi pitched noise on the Bose pro16 and are Bose changing the extension to metal from plastic.
Bose apparently stated that the wobble is expected in any similar array design
They also state the pro16 meets the force stability requirements or tip testing requirements of the legacy L1.
So Chris it seems that if it is ok to them, looks like no changes or alterations to come in the future pro products for us paying customers
Nothing about the hi pitched noise unfortunately
@@opaz. thank you
wow.. great review friend! thanks
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Can that hiss be EQ'd out? Is that a grounding issue? Anybody know of a fix?
As soon as you power it up even if volume is down to zero, the annoying high pitch noise is there
Could you let me know if Bose L1 Pro16 will work as a subwoofer without the tower speaker?
Yes it does
Would like to see a review of yamaha stagepass 1K.
I'm guessing all of these issues have been fixed, I just bought two of these and I'm not having ANY of these issues. But, not lie, it just sounds like you wanted a bunch of BS to complain about. What product do you actually like?
They're all in the uploads! 😁
Hey opaz bose l1 pro16 or jbl prx one which bass is stronger and which has more spl even though jbl has more output and if you using a mixer with the pro16 which would you buy
I had two Pro16's, sent them both back. I never got a chance to compare the bass of both. I've been using two PRX ONE's ever since
I cannot recommend the Pro16 due to the many issues it has
I remember when u were doing d demo of bose l1 pro16 u said it was really good and the jbl prx one d nobs were too loose so what made u choose jbl even though sound coverage is not as wide as bose
We(business) spend in Bose because people like it! As they think it sounds good. Nearly everyone loves sound from it.
Also no other choice in market which offers such fidelity! Danley Sound Labs is also good but bulky.
I think you'll find everybody likes every brand out there. All brands sell well, from the very cheap to the very expensive
@@opaz. indeed
@@opaz. well, I have noticed how people react to brands unknown to them, even if it's a good product.. they won't purchase/hire it.
That's how society works. Turns out, people love the brand JBL far more than Bose, in my location.
I tried a Pro16 and heard an uncool hiss. Not the squealing like you heard, but the hiss typical of older PAs, and it was definitely louder than the Model II which by comparison is dead quiet, so I returned the Pro16. I don't know if the Pro8 suffers the same problem, but I'll find out soon enough. As for the wobble I found it nowhere as bad as I imagined. Of course it wobbles if you rock it back and forth with your hand (as any array will), but that's not normal use! The connections are more tight enough for normal use and will even withstand a hard bump. There's no way it's going to separate unless you push it hard enough that could damage other arrays. In my opinion, the wobble is seriously not an issue. But the hiss is very much an issue. My two cents :-)
Cheers Joe 👍🏻
In the case of Bose L1 Pro32, I'll elevate it to as high as possible with support.
I'll use Bose RMS218 subs + Sub2 then I'll stack Bose L1 Pro32 on it. So that sound doesn't get much obstructed while people are nearby.
Your videos are very helpful to me. ❤️
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Bose doesn't recommend stacking Column array on subwoofers, might void your warranty, excessive vibration not the best for electronics.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz not a problem, will make the Pro32 stand on truss..
I’m wondering if the l1 8pro wobbles like that..which the plastic stand is much longer vs the the pro16
I have the Bose L1 pro8 for 8months I purchase it in March and I don’t have any problems with it! I love that thing!
yo queria comprar un L16 pero ahora no se si comprarlo o comprar un EVOLVE 50 :(
Necesitas una demostración de ambos, esta es mi opinión. Compra lo que creas que es mejor para ti
That hiss would drive me insane...
Its a killer 😫
@@opaz. Was seriously thinking about getting this unit...but I'd mainly use it as a P.A. for those really quiet, intimate singer-songwriter solo gigs. That hiss would absolutely destroy those gigs, just unacceptable.
Totally agree Simon. When I heard it I thought of a scenario of a singer songwriter just at home or somewhere quiet, getting ideas together trying different types of material. They would find it extremely difficult to concentrate once they hear it. When music is playing loud you can't notice it but once it's switched on, it's there.
Also I don't know if the noise will get worse over time. I wasn't gonna hang around with it to find out.
Too many things not right about this PA. They call it PRO16, it's definitely not PRO!
@@opaz. Exactly my thoughts, thanks for confirming....thinking about going for the Yamaha Stagepas 1k instead.
Is the Bose a defective unit?
Good question!
@@opaz. price alone is disparaging considering the similar findings in common with other reviews. Even though I/we still use point source QSC K12.2 on a stands, have you had a go with Bose F1 812 or a RCF Evox 8 setup? Thanks for your reviews.
that's the hissing sound coming from the array im talking about before.
Yes, it's very annoying!
I know they tried to lighten the load in the new design. But I don’t like the Pro 16 for this issue.
A pair of Pro 8’s does the job for me.
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Totally disagree with this guy.
I have the pro16 . It’s great. I’ve used it live many times. No issues, really loud. Sounds like he’s trying to bash Bose.
Worried about stitching, and plastic, professional quality, he’s got the PA’s set up in busted up wooden crates. He talked, and bashed the whole video and no sound test, what!!!! Really! Come on dude.
Talks about all the specs, but you didn’t hear either system😂😂😂.
That old busted up wooden crate!! that's not a nice way to talk about the pro16 😆
OPAZ funny 😄 good response:)
Seriously though, I would have loved to hear a side by side demo. I enjoyed watching some of your videos. Well done.👏
I'm glad you took it the right way. I don't mean to offend, honestly.. not in my nature.
The 16 isn't for me but tons of musicians etc it's perfect for them. My choices maybe trash to others, it's what pushes your buttons at the end of the day. 👍🏻
I'll send the links of demos etc if it helps
Have a good one 😉
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I'm currently struggling with the Pro16 for many of the reasons @opaz has mentioned. It's literally the noisiest PA I've owned in decades....and I've spoken with Bose several times about it and seem to be getting no viable solutions... to be honest, I'm gutted. I've been a Bose evangelist for over a decade now.... and this thing pretty much broke my heart.
When you describe the soundquality and behaviour of the Bose (lots of mids and wide spread), I think it must be aimed at singer-songwriters, who perform by singing and playing an acoustic guitar, and at moderators, corporate events. Not meant for dj's and dance music.
Exactly. Bose stuff is for people who perform and like to mix their own sound from flat.
Yup, this is really a DJ Channel but bose keep saying "PRO16 is perfect for DJ's" 🤔
@@opaz. I think it’s also meant for DJs. I have 3 pro16s and thinking about purchasing another one. I started using Line Array a year ago with A pair of EVs Evolve 50. The evolve 50 are great but the Bose pro16 just sound so much better to me as a dj. I had 4 QSC k12.2 and 1 KS212C sub that I sold. This is my First Bose system and I love it. Only problem is the extended mount.
Glad you're happy with it Glen
@@Iamdjgeelib i dont have try Evolve but the PRX one and i prefer bose for DJ with MUSIC EQ setting
Thank you again Opaz for your work on this review. The sad part is this will not sway DJs away from using this product. They will buy it, and the tone match stuff to make it sound better. Some won't even do that. They will run this system as is and think they are killing the game. 🤣😅😂😅🤣😅🤣😂
If you are a performer, like with a keyboard or guitar I can see you wanting that flat, raw, mids-heavy sound. Or if you AR the engineer of a small band who prefers to do all the mixing on the final sound of the band. I totally get that, but I still feel there are better units out there for several hundred less that would definitely suit your purposes if completely blow the bose away.
To the guy that said "we buy bose because people like it" youn sir are not being honest with us or yourself. You buy bose because you like saying you run a bose system. If ibhave learned one thing in my years of providing sound for clients is that they do not give 2 shits what you are using as long as it sounds decent and looks presentable. They care even less if it sounds great and looks great. The only.people that care are audiophiles, other djs, and you... cause again you like to say..."I run a fully bose system". More power to you I guess.
PLE!!! It is extremely refreshing to hear exactly what I was going to add in my upload (but it would have gone on for at least another 30 minutes) 🥱 😆😆😆
Exactly... The client and guests only care if you turn up.......$100 PA or one worth 10,000 😄😄🤑🤑🤑 as you so rightly say, NOBODY CARES
That's why I said at the end "if you love it, yeah go and buy it" 😆😆 some people I'll never convince beyond the bose hypnosis
The loyalists will suffer the wobble, suffer the screeching and suffer the extreme price and convince themselves that they have the best out there
Too many things are coming to light: Race Track Driver???🤔 because its shaped like a stadium. These shape drivers are as old as time itself but described without the hype. Why have 32 drivers in a column???? 🤔, just have many fewer GOOD or BETTER ones.
I could have been a lot more brutal but I'd be a hater 🙄 with no idea!
This PA has been one that has exhausted me and taught me a lesson that I was already aware of to tell you the truth....
It's gotta GO!
The male female connectors are too shallow to be snuggle or precise, could result Viperating, the plastic extender is a joke, it feels like easily snapped off... Bose should lose the plastic extender and just do two columns of 8 speakers instead
Can you made a sound comparison between the bose pro16 and evolve 50...
I had to cut back the bass more than 0 (-3) on the EV because this upload was for column performance but you can get an idea how they sound for mids & highs. Link below:
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My Bose Products sound better than my DB ES1203 and do not look at the specs as a way of judging things. It's just a reference. My Model II claimed only 124 max SPL and the DB Tech was 132 yet they were nearly the same volume when doing shootout at max volume outdoors. The way the speaker connects on the 16 is the same technology they have been using forever, and while it's a little wobbly, it's not going to break or affect anything. They have been like this for 15 years.
a little wobbly you must be high the sway was so bad tho been that way you say for 15yrs thats lame build quality, if you say spl is a guide then $3000 32 is same power as 16 cos only 4db split in bose vid craig says new l1 is most advanced l1 ever but still got old conect tech from 15 yrs ago what a letdown
@@digitalheaven9410 I found there to be a little movement, but nothing my compact does not have, and my L1 Model II did it a little.
also, build quality and finish it so much better than my ES1203 which chips so easily. My L1 looked new after 10 years.
man things are bad when you dissin your own pa over plastic l1 good sound gear still is made good wood metal
Purchased two BOSE L1 Pro 16 units. The instructions state it must be updated before it is used. Why it doesn't come updated from the factory is beyond me. The first one updated just fine. The second unit failed to connect. Hours upon hours of trouble shooting, I called BOSE support and they advised me to take it back. Took it back to Guitar Center and came home with a replacement. BOOM! Nothing. Same issue as the last one. Called BOSE support again and they said they would get back to me "within a few days." Took that one back today and received yet a third replacement. This one also fails to update but on top of that, the lighting on the mixer is sketchy and appears to have got past QA. When I return this one, it will be my 4th unit. I am 1/2 tempted to just return both and be done with it. When you shell out this kind of coin for an item, it should work right out the box, no questions asked. What a disappointment.
Bad that from bose awful! Crazy! Has anyone else reported this yet...? 100% overpriced! If i had to help upcoming mobile dj, ill advise investing in HD45M or Promaxx114A
I think everyone is on bose payroll 😆. Bose sound is like marmite, I don't find marmite appealing. Yeah, I agree overpriced
Everything is apparently bad with Bose speakers, according to you!???????
No, not at all. I really admire the speakers marketing & hype, it's second to none
Yeah, but being overly negative/sarcastic doesn’t help people who watch your videos to get reliable information. ☹️
EV is still goofy looking regardless.
The havana syndrome …😂
📡 maybe!
Hissing
Where all these column systems continue to fall apart is price for sound and bass output. The sound community as a whole would never stand for a normal point source speaker that cost 1700.00, 1800.00 that put out less than 128db! Never but we give these column arrays a pass? Why?
Right now my main system consist of one Evolve 50 that I have to support with a small 12 inches sub for bass because this system just does not deliver enough low end. The kids and high and throw is fine for most of my events, but the bass is trash.
A Yamaha DXR 10 MK2, over a Yamaha DXS 15 MK2 would blow the top columns from bose, ev, turbosound, and RCF evox12 away for hundreds less. The Yamaha DXS12 would blow most of them away too, but I am afraid it would limit quickly.
If you are not above mixing brand names the turbosound IP 300 over a good small rectangular sub is also a decent combo that will blow away most current column arrays.
People want to like these things so much they just turn a blind eye to how stupid they actually are. It is a sad sad state of affairs man.
In a nutshell, I think alotta DJs are willing to sacrifice some db output for more convenience with setup & transport of these new column speakers. I use active speakers, but use both a seperate sub + top.
You know what PLE!!!! just this minute it hit me....you're right. We're saturated with these point source miniature subs popping up everywhere, with these poles sticking out of them (called column "arrays") that don't sound great. Great for portability and the spine but will never beat the excitement or impact of a good 18" sub with a good 12 above. 👍🏼
@@opaz. They could never fam! I bought a Turbosound IP300 top... and I should have bought like a Yamaha DXS12/15 MK2 or like an Rcf 705 asll to go with it... Instead I bought a lackluster evolve 50 that I have to supplement with another speaker for adequate bass. Absolutely Tragic... I should have stuck to my original plan fam.
Total disaster. Seen the light now.... at last!
I appreciate your alternative point of view. I would love to hear a comparison "A-B" I drank the Bose Koolaid years ago, and it's still in my system. I like the idea of the array set up, as well as the ease of setup and tear down. Not to mention the idea of using the mains as a monitor as well. I hope Bose and the other manufacturers will continue to improve. Thanks for your input. I'm sure your right.