This bike with it's spec is an absolute no brainer!! KTM engine, Bosch electronics with 6-axis IMU, top of the range equipment for quite a lot less than everyone else! Damn fine bike.
Great review.I ordered one yesterday ,it will be a few weeks before I get my leg over it,I am really looking forward to having it and taking it to Spain and Portugal in September
Bonjour et merci pour cette vidéo, pardon pour ce beau reportage; De très belles images, très très professionnels ; vos Commentaires sont clairs, explicites, limpides!. Un grand merci pour votre travail !.✌️
Good review. I have one of these. I think it performs brilliantly for its price point and features as standard. For Australia anyway. A side note, I think people get confused between jerky or a responsive throttle. It holds its speed with no hunting at all at any speed. It is responsive which makes a touring bike even more fun and flexible. I love mine.
Yes, I think you are right but I do understand the the jerkiness can be frustrating if holding at SUB-30MPH but then perhaps riding in a lower gear to keep the revs higher.
Hi Mark,I’ve been waiting for you to get your hands on this to bring us a UK real world full review. As I suspected your report doesn’t disappoint.. a top job from your good self showcasing a very interesting model. Not perfect but amazing VFM,I suspect we’ll be seeing plenty of MT800’s on Britains roads. I’m hoping you’ll be doing a long term test on this one.
Many thanks to you, the author of the video, it was very interesting to ride with you with the breeze. On the SF moto MT-800 touring . I am from Kazakhstan🇰🇿. the city of Semipalatinsk.
@@motorsforthemasses Да, совершенно верно, В 1988 году , первый президент Казахстана, Нурсултан Назарбаев, завершил своим указом, Ядерные Испытания . Так сказать, закрыл ядерный полигон. И это было очень важно.
I have had mine for about three days so far, with about three hundred miles on it, taking a break today, but I really like mine, has a couple of quirks, but what does not, once I get use to everything, it will be just about perfect. I am coming from the cruiser world, Suzuki Volusia, and the Suzuki C90. This is a different riding style but I like it, bike is very Flickable compared to my cruisers. 6:31
Cracking review bud , I currently have the Tiger sport but have been considering changing to the new Tiger 900GT pro , but then this caught my eye and I must say it's a real contender and at the moment for £9200 with free topbox and panniers it's a no brainer really, thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍🏼
What a brilliant review, thanks. The slow (below 15mph) jerkiness does worry me a bit, I wonder how it would handle a u-turn or slow manoeuvre if you needed to do one, or filtering through traffic at 10mph max. But certainly worth a look at.
I have bought this bike 4 days ago. Yes it is jerki at low speeds. But if you use your clutch it is superb in handling tight turns and filtering! The bike itself is very very stable and nicely balanced. The clutch feels amazing because it also comes with a slipper clutch.
Expat living in China for many many years and pretty familiar with CF Moto, stores (and 800MTs) a plenty here! It’s understandable that non-Chinese bikers are unfamiliar with CF Moto. Many might be put off by the fact it’s a Chinese bike and for good reason! When I look at my Chinese biker app, I see more than 200+ Chinese manufacturers, yes while MOST are crap (you can get a 500CC bike here for
seems like a bloody good bike 1 question its a deal breaker for me spoked wheels ? are thay tubless..... i am the punkture king I dread having new tyres fitted every time I do I get a punkture within days
Great review Mark. Yeah, that revised map was developed in Aus because of fueling snatch in sport mode. I thought it was going Global because CFMoto were happy with it🤔
fuel map update is available here in the philippines for first gen bikes. New ones released have the new fuel map already. So, yes im pretty sure its a global update/release.
I was one of the people that commented the first video, and said I'd probably go for the Transalp. I still think I'd do that, but I'd certainly test ride the 800MT ( providing I could find somewhere localish to get a test ride ) In my first comment, I forgot about the cruise control, which the Transalp doesn't have ( not overly bothered about the other stuff that the Tranalp doesn't have, as you could put them on as extras. I do love the look of the 800MT, but still not sure it would be a reliable as the Honda, and how that 4 year guarantee would work out in reality, by which, I mean whether you'd have to have a lot of dealer services to keep it.
i always find it interesting that people always say "i'd probably go for the transalp/800DE as i can get all the accessories/options that the 800MT has as an add-on" as if you can get the add-ons for cheap. yes, the street version is not a bang for the buck contender, but the touring is untouchable at sub 12,000 GBP. the transalp and the 800DE starts at 9,500 and 10,500 respectively. you probably need an additional 4-5 grand (including labor) to add all the options the 800MT has (centerstand, heated grips, heated seats, cruise control, tyre pressure monitor, up/down QS, 2x USB sockets, 12v socket, hand guards, adjustable clucth/brake levers, bluetooth connectivity, built-in bike locator via CFMOTO app, bashplate, crashbars, luggage racks, steering damper, fog lights, fully adjustable front suspension and adjustable wind screen). by then we are talking about a different price range than the 800MT. the reliability of the bike is maybe the only valid concern for it. but since the 800MT has literally the same LC8c as the KTM 790's, im a bit more at eased that it can last a bit longer than expected.
@@michaeljohndelmundo4741 I guess that you don't agree with me then but, for me, at least, I don't need a lot of that other stuff, and things like the hand guards, USB socket ( I'm not sure the Transalp doesn't't come with that ) and F&R guards are pretty easy to add yourself. Tyre pressure monitors ( some people that get these on bikes and cars are always complaining that they keep going off due to cold and warm tyres altering the pressure. ) Apps, blue tooth connectivity, heated seats, I'm not really interested in. I would like the quick shifter ( which I believe is about £180 to get installed, ( and some dealers are throwing this in for free ) I do agree with you on Cruise Control though. And, I like the 4 year warranty ( sounds great ) However, not too sure how far I'd have to take it to get the servicing done to keep that warranty. Suppose it depends on your location, and how many CFMOTO dealers there are around. Unfortunately, I don't live anywhere near Norfolk.
@geoff newman its not that i dont agree with you picking the transalp/800DE over the 800MT, its your statement about putting all the extras on the them as if its that easy/cheap to do so. I get that you personally dont need some of the stuff that you mentioned, but lets be honest, if the transalp came with all of these options out of the factory, at the pricepoint of the 800MT touring or even just under 13,000 gbp, it would be considered an automatic bike of the year candidate on honda's reputation alone; even if it hasn't been ridden by anyone outside of pampered journo's in an controlled setting. In reality though, a transalp spec'd to your want/needs won't even be close to sub 12,000 gbp with a 4 year warranty. It will be close to 13,000gbp with a voided warrany as you would have to drill, weld and splice to mount the stuff you want to put into the bike. The warranty can vary on your area, but CFMoto's are being sold/maintaned by KTM dealer's in several parts of the world. I have never heard anybody complain not getting maintenance/service from KTM dealers. Now an argument can be made that KTM and other euro bikes are not as bulletproof as japanese ones, but even you have to admit they aren't rubbish either. I mean if we do get into detail, we can barely call this bike a "China bike". The Engine is Austrian designed built by chinese to european standards/tolerances in a plant built specifically for them, the ABS and EFI are from Bosch, the brakes are from Spain, the KYB suspension is from Japan and the overall bike design is from Kiska. At the end of the day, it is your own money and you spend it the way you want. But lets be open to the possibilities the 800MT generates. I know it's still early, but this can very well be like the late 60s/70s when cheap well equipped Japanese bikes started to arrive. They were ridiculed by a lot of people, especially by the established brand (truimph, Benelli, etc.) but 10-15 years later its the Japanese that were dominating and more than half the established brands were out the door.
@@michaeljohndelmundo4741 You make some very good points there. Don't get me wrong. I love the look of the 800MT, and I'd love to see it sell really well. This might get the Larger manufacturers like Honda etc to give us all some of those 'extras' which are on the 800MT and others, as standard, like "comfort seats' ( which should be part of the original spec ) or heated grips and a fair few other things. I think the Taransalp will, probably, be this years 'Bike of the year' and perhaps the 8000MT should be able to give it a challenge, although I'm not convinced this will happen. It'll be interesting to see how the resale values compare over the next few years. I think it will be governed by the amount of sales both models get, and spares availability. It was interesting what you said about KTM dealers carrying out the servicing - I hadn't thought of that. Let's hope that happens in the UK.
Very good review looks and sounds amazing but the price I have a problem with. I've been riding Voge motorcycles for the past three years in Spain the build quality is very good and I believe the price is spot on.
The 'whistling' at higher speeds appears to be a known issue as others on a video by chaseontwowheels have indicated. the workaround is to set the stock screen to mid or low position and on a 'wind deflector' on top.
@@bikramjitganguly Good to know, I picked my 800t about a week ago. Over here in the US they are calling it the Ibex800t. I haven't noticed any whistling on mine yet but I only have 440 miles on it... :)
I changed my screen to a 50mm taller screen and I noticed the whistle is gone,, I'm convinced it was coming from the mounting holes in the OEM screen,. The new screen has caps over the mounting bolts hence no wind passing through. @@bikramjitganguly
Let's hope the tank is not MT....as in empty? ...sorry, couldn't resist! This is a good looking bike. And after testing the CL-X700, I can testify the buildquality is good aswell. This is a bike/brand we will see more of. And to be frank, if we didn't know where it was built... Thank you!
Thank You for review. I'm thinking hard about the 800. May I ask why when you talk about the 'fueling', why say calling KTM? Does not CFMoto build the bike? I hope they get more wide spread in the USA. I've seen few have them, but not on websites yet.
That it is my biggest gripe with the bike that almost no one talks about, i dont mind that it is not electronic but seems like a pain in the ass to change the preload everytime you getting a passenger
there is an update to do via the app on your phone co nected in Bluetooth with the bike for firmware update it's available in France there is a video on TH-cam explaining how to do th-cam.com/video/mfjnDSOlFv8/w-d-xo.html
I test rode this bike today, I had a full afternoon to play with it, I brought it back to the dealer after 20 minutes, I was so disappointed, the fueling was the worst have ever experienced in any bike, absolutely awful, Iv been riding since 1978 and always had a bike. Very disappointed 👎
This bike with it's spec is an absolute no brainer!! KTM engine, Bosch electronics with 6-axis IMU, top of the range equipment for quite a lot less than everyone else! Damn fine bike.
Great review.I ordered one yesterday ,it will be a few weeks before I get my leg over it,I am really looking forward to having it and taking it to Spain and Portugal in September
Bonjour et merci pour cette vidéo, pardon pour ce beau reportage; De très belles images, très très professionnels ; vos Commentaires sont clairs, explicites, limpides!. Un grand merci pour votre travail !.✌️
Probably the best review ive seen in years....well done! looks like a true winner
Good review. I have one of these. I think it performs brilliantly for its price point and features as standard. For Australia anyway. A side note, I think people get confused between jerky or a responsive throttle. It holds its speed with no hunting at all at any speed. It is responsive which makes a touring bike even more fun and flexible. I love mine.
Yes, I think you are right but I do understand the the jerkiness can be frustrating if holding at SUB-30MPH but then perhaps riding in a lower gear to keep the revs higher.
Software update fixes it.
Very nice ride, even in the wind. Thanks for the video. 🤝😊
Your reviews are both informative and entertaining. Thanks from Alabama, USA for doing what you do. Keep up the good work!
Thank you. Great to have you here.
Hi Mark,I’ve been waiting for you to get your hands on this to bring us a UK real world full review. As I suspected your report doesn’t disappoint.. a top job from your good self showcasing a very interesting model. Not perfect but amazing VFM,I suspect we’ll be seeing plenty of MT800’s on Britains roads. I’m hoping you’ll be doing a long term test on this one.
Many thanks to you, the author of the video, it was very interesting to ride with you with the breeze. On the SF moto MT-800 touring . I am from Kazakhstan🇰🇿. the city of Semipalatinsk.
Ooo er, isn't that where the Soviet Union tested Nuclear weapons?
@@motorsforthemasses
Да, совершенно верно,
В 1988 году , первый президент Казахстана, Нурсултан Назарбаев, завершил своим указом,
Ядерные Испытания .
Так сказать, закрыл ядерный полигон.
И это было очень важно.
I have had mine for about three days so far, with about three hundred miles on it, taking a break today, but I really like mine, has a couple of quirks, but what does not, once I get use to everything, it will be just about perfect. I am coming from the cruiser world, Suzuki Volusia, and the Suzuki C90. This is a different riding style but I like it, bike is very Flickable compared to my cruisers. 6:31
Cracking review bud , I currently have the Tiger sport but have been considering changing to the new Tiger 900GT pro , but then this caught my eye and I must say it's a real contender and at the moment for £9200 with free topbox and panniers it's a no brainer really, thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍🏼
Thank you great review. What boots do you use Mark? Lucky enough to have a CFMOTO dealer here in West Cumbria. 😊
What a brilliant review, thanks. The slow (below 15mph) jerkiness does worry me a bit, I wonder how it would handle a u-turn or slow manoeuvre if you needed to do one, or filtering through traffic at 10mph max. But certainly worth a look at.
I have bought this bike 4 days ago. Yes it is jerki at low speeds. But if you use your clutch it is superb in handling tight turns and filtering! The bike itself is very very stable and nicely balanced. The clutch feels amazing because it also comes with a slipper clutch.
try changing the air filter to a dna one
great review. i saw one at the ABR rally and it did get my attention for the price...hmmmmm
I notice backlit switches too ?
Expat living in China for many many years and pretty familiar with CF Moto, stores (and 800MTs) a plenty here! It’s understandable that non-Chinese bikers are unfamiliar with CF Moto. Many might be put off by the fact it’s a Chinese bike and for good reason! When I look at my Chinese biker app, I see more than 200+ Chinese manufacturers, yes while MOST are crap (you can get a 500CC bike here for
The heated seat is a bummer !! 😄
What caused the crash. I was turning my heated seat off in my opinions menu.😂
seems like a bloody good bike 1 question its a deal breaker for me spoked wheels ? are thay tubless..... i am the punkture king I dread having new tyres fitted every time I do I get a punkture within days
Yes, tubeless as they have TPMS
@@motorsforthemassesand tyre temperature monitoring
Great review Mark. Yeah, that revised map was developed in Aus because of fueling snatch in sport mode. I thought it was going Global because CFMoto were happy with it🤔
Let's hope so.
fuel map update is available here in the philippines for first gen bikes. New ones released have the new fuel map already. So, yes im pretty sure its a global update/release.
What a lovely review sir now i am decided to buy one for once it is available here in the philippines..RS sir from philippines..❤
Hi, Welcome the Philippines.
Brilliant review. Seems to be a lot of bike for the money.
Have you considered a helmet mounted camera?
A great review
I was one of the people that commented the first video, and said I'd probably go for the Transalp. I still think I'd do that, but I'd certainly test ride the 800MT ( providing I could find somewhere localish to get a test ride ) In my first comment, I forgot about the cruise control, which the Transalp doesn't have ( not overly bothered about the other stuff that the Tranalp doesn't have, as you could put them on as extras. I do love the look of the 800MT, but still not sure it would be a reliable as the Honda, and how that 4 year guarantee would work out in reality, by which, I mean whether you'd have to have a lot of dealer services to keep it.
Probably right, it is a KTM
i always find it interesting that people always say "i'd probably go for the transalp/800DE as i can get all the accessories/options that the 800MT has as an add-on" as if you can get the add-ons for cheap. yes, the street version is not a bang for the buck contender, but the touring is untouchable at sub 12,000 GBP.
the transalp and the 800DE starts at 9,500 and 10,500 respectively. you probably need an additional 4-5 grand (including labor) to add all the options the 800MT has (centerstand, heated grips, heated seats, cruise control, tyre pressure monitor, up/down QS, 2x USB sockets, 12v socket, hand guards, adjustable clucth/brake levers, bluetooth connectivity, built-in bike locator via CFMOTO app, bashplate, crashbars, luggage racks, steering damper, fog lights, fully adjustable front suspension and adjustable wind screen). by then we are talking about a different price range than the 800MT.
the reliability of the bike is maybe the only valid concern for it. but since the 800MT has literally the same LC8c as the KTM 790's, im a bit more at eased that it can last a bit longer than expected.
@@michaeljohndelmundo4741 I guess that you don't agree with me then but, for me, at least, I don't need a lot of that other stuff, and things like the hand guards, USB socket ( I'm not sure the Transalp doesn't't come with that ) and F&R guards are pretty easy to add yourself. Tyre pressure monitors ( some people that get these on bikes and cars are always complaining that they keep going off due to cold and warm tyres altering the pressure. ) Apps, blue tooth connectivity, heated seats, I'm not really interested in.
I would like the quick shifter ( which I believe is about £180 to get installed, ( and some dealers are throwing this in for free )
I do agree with you on Cruise Control though. And, I like the 4 year warranty ( sounds great ) However, not too sure how far I'd have to take it to get the servicing done to keep that warranty. Suppose it depends on your location, and how many CFMOTO dealers there are around. Unfortunately, I don't live anywhere near Norfolk.
@geoff newman its not that i dont agree with you picking the transalp/800DE over the 800MT, its your statement about putting all the extras on the them as if its that easy/cheap to do so.
I get that you personally dont need some of the stuff that you mentioned, but lets be honest, if the transalp came with all of these options out of the factory, at the pricepoint of the 800MT touring or even just under 13,000 gbp, it would be considered an automatic bike of the year candidate on honda's reputation alone; even if it hasn't been ridden by anyone outside of pampered journo's in an controlled setting.
In reality though, a transalp spec'd to your want/needs won't even be close to sub 12,000 gbp with a 4 year warranty. It will be close to 13,000gbp with a voided warrany as you would have to drill, weld and splice to mount the stuff you want to put into the bike.
The warranty can vary on your area, but CFMoto's are being sold/maintaned by KTM dealer's in several parts of the world. I have never heard anybody complain not getting maintenance/service from KTM dealers.
Now an argument can be made that KTM and other euro bikes are not as bulletproof as japanese ones, but even you have to admit they aren't rubbish either.
I mean if we do get into detail, we can barely call this bike a "China bike". The Engine is Austrian designed built by chinese to european standards/tolerances in a plant built specifically for them, the ABS and EFI are from Bosch, the brakes are from Spain, the KYB suspension is from Japan and the overall bike design is from Kiska.
At the end of the day, it is your own money and you spend it the way you want. But lets be open to the possibilities the 800MT generates. I know it's still early, but this can very well be like the late 60s/70s when cheap well equipped Japanese bikes started to arrive. They were ridiculed by a lot of people, especially by the established brand (truimph, Benelli, etc.) but 10-15 years later its the Japanese that were dominating and more than half the established brands were out the door.
@@michaeljohndelmundo4741 You make some very good points there. Don't get me wrong. I love the look of the 800MT, and I'd love to see it sell really well. This might get the Larger manufacturers like Honda etc to give us all some of those 'extras' which are on the 800MT and others, as standard, like "comfort seats' ( which should be part of the original spec ) or heated grips and a fair few other things.
I think the Taransalp will, probably, be this years 'Bike of the year' and perhaps the 8000MT should be able to give it a challenge, although I'm not convinced this will happen.
It'll be interesting to see how the resale values compare over the next few years. I think it will be governed by the amount of sales both models get, and spares availability. It was interesting what you said about KTM dealers carrying out the servicing - I hadn't thought of that. Let's hope that happens in the UK.
Very good review looks and sounds amazing but the price I have a problem with. I've been riding Voge motorcycles for the past three years in Spain the build quality is very good and I believe the price is spot on.
check your visor if it has pin lock pins. If one falls out you will get that whistle in your helmet through the hole where the pin was.... :)
Will check when I get home thanks😊
The 'whistling' at higher speeds appears to be a known issue as others on a video by chaseontwowheels have indicated. the workaround is to set the stock screen to mid or low position and on a 'wind deflector' on top.
@@bikramjitganguly Good to know, I picked my 800t about a week ago. Over here in the US they are calling it the Ibex800t. I haven't noticed any whistling on mine yet but I only have 440 miles on it... :)
I changed my screen to a 50mm taller screen and I noticed the whistle is gone,, I'm convinced it was coming from the mounting holes in the OEM screen,. The new screen has caps over the mounting bolts hence no wind passing through. @@bikramjitganguly
Let's hope the tank is not MT....as in empty? ...sorry, couldn't resist!
This is a good looking bike. And after testing the CL-X700, I can testify the buildquality is good aswell. This is a bike/brand we will see more of. And to be frank, if we didn't know where it was built...
Thank you!
at 70 the RPMs are 6000...????...thanks great review
I paid $18,000 out the door in South Carolina for a Tiger900LR, and didn't get half the features or panniers, etc.
Thank You for review. I'm thinking hard about the 800. May I ask why when you talk about the 'fueling', why say calling KTM? Does not CFMoto build the bike? I hope they get more wide spread in the USA. I've seen few have them, but not on websites yet.
Hi, because in the UK, CFMoto is imported and managed by KTM Austria.
Is the pillion seat heated too? 🤔
No
Good value.
Does sound nice.
All good except updated fuel map hasn’t addressed low speed low rev engine jerking.
Oh really? That's a shame
@@motorsforthemasses informed today another fuel map update in works.
Can you check for automatic canceling blinkers? my sime not to work, or is there confusion?
very nice...
Have you got any demos in ??
Yes, the one I was on
How many gears sounds like 5 , !!
No, 6
No remote rear preload adjuster unfortunately.
That it is my biggest gripe with the bike that almost no one talks about, i dont mind that it is not electronic but seems like a pain in the ass to change the preload everytime you getting a passenger
there is an update to do via the app on your phone co nected in Bluetooth with the bike for firmware update
it's available in France
there is a video on TH-cam explaining how to do
th-cam.com/video/mfjnDSOlFv8/w-d-xo.html
Excellent.
Tracer 9 GT comparable except for the price 😮
I test rode this bike today, I had a full afternoon to play with it, I brought it back to the dealer after 20 minutes, I was so disappointed, the fueling was the worst have ever experienced in any bike, absolutely awful, Iv been riding since 1978 and always had a bike. Very disappointed 👎
Can be fixed in the app. Can upload the fix through your phone. No dealer visit required.
First 😛