Why The Death Note Would FAIL!
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"If you can't win the game... if you can't solve the puzzle... then you're just a loser." -N
In the world of "Death Note", Kira is god- a seemingly omnipotent entity with the ability to decide who dies and how. Only the smartest might even suspect that the killings ultimately tie back to a very dedicated young adult with an otherworldly notebook and a strong sense of justice. The series follows Light Yagami as he puts his genius mind to work, dodging police suspicion and killing off criminals in order to create a perfect world. His actions raise a lot of questions about the true meaning of "justice" and how humans respond to death... But perhaps an even bigger question is "Would he still be able to pull this off in modern society?" Join Tyler at The Imaginary Axis for a journey through culture and recent history to uncover the surprising argument about why even the greatest serial killer from 14 years ago might be a minor nuisance today... and why that should scare you even more.
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What is a god to a pepe?
karol chruzik tfs reference: what is a God to a non believer
the shadow rebel tfs reference is also a Kanye reference
Do you belive now?
And what is a Pepe to a non memer?
Dankikulus memeunculi BRUH nice 👍
Fatal flaw in this video: 4chan would take Lights side.
Around 50% would probably. But the other 50% would be just like "Lol I can take down a god of death"
The only question is who comes first. The mugger who beats him down or the guys who are like "Yo Kira, I've got some more infos for you and I will take down some guys with ya if ya want" And light would permanently be like "How the fuck are you guys keep finding me".
some of them would remain calm and post nazi memes
Ferenc Szaffenauer I take Light's side
Ferenc Szaffenauer i get it
That actually is a good point, in the show and most likely in real life, Kira had many people who agreed with him. However I do think there will be a chunk of 4chan who think he is wrong or want to do it for bragging rights.
Knowing 4Chan they'd mug Light, steal the death note, and continue his plan of killing criminals, but would be mailing the death note to each other like a murderous game of hot potato.
Now THIS is the case I'd want to see L try and solve.
@my account to watch things in sundays phrase*
BRO Imagine if the Netflix adaptation wasn't a hot dumpster fire, and by the time they caught Light, the Death Note was already shipped off to someone else! Aw that would have been SUCH a cool twist!
The snag in that, however, is that whoever gives it away to another will lose their memory of the Death Note.
The idea of a buncha 4channers having the ability to magic delete people is just incredibly terrifying, because with great power comes great responsibility....and I think that's enough said as for why were this to happen, the world would probably be done and dusted real quick. Quite an undignified way to go really.
I feel like it would be super easy for Light to counter this actually. Firstly, he has the advantage of his method of killing being supernatural... which means it sounds like a conspiracy theory. That GREATLY limits both the number of people and the type of person who would correctly guess his methods. Secondly, he'd be able to monitor everyone's progress. And thirdly, he'd have an army of supporters who he could organize, and the ability to bombard the internet with alternate theories and misinformation campaigns.
Light: (Gets jumped, robbed and killed for his Death Note)
Also Light: (smirks) It's all according to the plan.
YES
I feel that realistically NO one would believe that you can kill someone by knowing your name
People always say my name is hard to pronounce at school but it's a cakewalk for a shinigami for example "Aithan Liome" is not my real name it's said in the death note that if you accidentally misspell a name in the notebook 4 times that person will be immune to that specific death note for example Goku is already immune to the death note.
Goku doesn't have a last name so he was already immune to the death note since birth.
@@aithanleeom5152
You have to misspell it 4 times, but yes. Also no, having no last name doesn't save you. It is said that every person has a name, even if he never had a legal one. Even if you somehow don't have any legal name at all and you have no interaction with humans who can give something like a nickname they know you by - Death Note still has something to work with. Also I don't need to pronounce your name, I only need to write it.
some people believe in the flat earth, so not too much of a stretch
@@reidt182 the difference is is that there is some logic to the idea...which is just experience but nobody has experienced a death by writing a name, at least not directly so it is harder to believe that someone is just writing names of people he wants dead.
FOR CLARIFICATION: I do not believe the earth is flat, I am just showing you their logic behind it and why it isn't the same.
Here’s a spin off story to your theory: what if light uses the dark web to build a cult that worships and protects him?
damn, this deserves more likes
Omg that's genius
I'd love to see that
I mean that would happen anyway, like at least 50% of 4chan would be on Light's side and would try to stop the Kirra investigation and so would many other people outside of 4chan. Like maybe a subreddit dedicated to finding Kirra gets spammed by a ton of people to hinder the investigation etc.
@@stuff5757 Yeah, lets be honest nowadays people would happily help Light survive. We're a vindictive species, and most of us would see what Light's doing as a good thing. Hell, most of his supporters would also likely be mental and emotional support to keep Light sane and stable. Light letting the power go to his head was part of why he got found out.
i don't think people are going to see other people die of heart attacks and think "this has to be a death note."
exactly most will think its actually its god not a guy with a death note and think prisons are killing off inmates in someway
These guys on the internet take themselves too seriously...
Exactly, this video makes no sense
More like "Ok yeah, I'm going to lay off the sweets"
Yeah, nobody would just jump to that conclusion.
I don't think the internet would see a series of heart attack victims and think that a high school student was killing them by writing names in a notebook. After all, L deduced that Kira existed and needed a name and a face through classified police information as well as very specific experiments (Lind L. Tailor). However, I do agree that he would eventually be caught because of the internet.
What if Death Note happened today coexisting with the anime and manga? That might make it way easier for people to guess the name/face conclusion.
@@Cinnamon_Chayne or harder, because there are way more people that have a death note, you can just use it anywhere and no one would suspect, if they even related the deaths to something more than just chance
I don't think so, cuz the victims always criminals!
@@agatha968 or may be dont post anything on internet use books to get muderer name or family tv or public tv may be create a group who buys magzine for u
L deduced that Kira existed prior to using any police information. He announced it TO a gathering of police officials from around the world right after they were contemplating calling him in...which means he didn't need their info to figure it out, because he hadn't gotten it yet.
The names and faces thing is honestly a huge gaping hole in the story since it hinges upon criminals who hadn't died yet...even though Light was far, *far* away from having cleansed the world of criminals yet. In fact, *after* that point in the story, Light even states that he's got a whole roster of criminals that he saves for experimental purposes, and he also has deaths scheduled well in advance of the current day in case he is incapacitated in some fashion.
TLDR: L doesn't use police info to figure out that Kira exists and figuring out he needs a name and a face to kill is nearly impossible. He may need one or the other, but knowing he needs both is impossible via the method used in the series.
Okay, you’ve modernised the setting. But you haven’t modernised Light.
Light is HIGHLY intelligent. Do you really think he’d be unaware of his searches being monitored?
The video author isn't highly intelligent. :(
He can't really do anything about it aside from VPN,and that still doesn't stop private servers trying to find him and his methods out,unless he just doesn't do any publicity stuff with his kills.
@@DoubleBoost23 You fail to mention that you can build your own VPN. Everybody literally underestimates light so much.
Xavier
What you don’t realize is that nothing stops the government from finding you if they want to. A vpn doesn’t matter. The best hackers in the world have been caught by the government, it doesn’t matter how smart Light is unless his skills with computers rivaled that of Gary McKinnon. Then they would find him eventually. It doesn’t matter what he did, VPN doesn’t stop the government. It’s just that the government doesn’t care what most people are doing but if you give them a reason to care they’ll find you.
Kalle Nilsson
No he doesn’t. A government worker does not have the same power as the government. That’s like saying a simple government worker has the same power as the head of the FBI. That’s like saying since you work for a company you can go head to head with your boss.
4Chan: dedicated enough to track someone down to steal a flag, but won't use said skills to be helpful.
Yes. Because it's no fun.
Causing slight harm and mayhem is funny, especially if its a fair game or your opponent even has an advantage. But just kicking on some idiot? Naw.
Weaponized Autism is still Autism.
They helped bomb ISIS.
ABW941 true.
4Chan: "wait... We can disrupt a GOD? Let's do it boooooys"
People seem to forget that Light didn’t take precautions when he started out, because he didn’t believe the Death Note would work. It was just a joke to him. He’s not omnipotent. The immediate conclusion that he was a highschool student from an exact town would be made based on the circumstances of his first victim’s death.
What if the first victim is a well known worldwide criminal. And how would anyone be able to distinguish one heart attack from millions per day?
This is such a ridiculous line of thought
No...God no...they would be able to determine he's in Japan. That's it. The first killing gives no information that he's a high school student, because that info was derived from the TIME OF DAY that ALL of his killings were taking place. One death could not determine that on its own.
And they could not determine his town because that crime was broadcast on LIVE NATIONAL TELEVISION
But you must also understand that even if Kira appeared in modern day, there will be people who look up to Kira and it’s said that large amounts of the population support Kira in the story due to him stopping criminals and in the 1017 movie even the cops appreciate what Kira is doing. So in all while the internet would stop Kira, the question is would people want to. Would they want to stop something when they are desperate for change as well
Not to mention Google searches would be absolutely flooded with the keyword "Kira" so narrowing it down to one high school kid searching for Forums about Kira would be difficult. Especially since the entire police force, numerous curious citizens and Kira sympathizers would also be searching for those same forums.
@@metalngames509 They could probably solve that by just programming an algorithm to find the person who searched the most names of death note victims prior to their deaths.
Yeah, but, like Misa, there would be fans that are dedicating to finding Kira anyway. It would be something fun to do anyway 'I wonder if I can find Kira?' I think a lot of people would try to find Kira just because they can, they want to meet him, or are just bored.
Yeah, his web searched are not going to stand out. Searching criminal names would stand out, and use a VPN, and they really won't. Not to mention you forget the part of the internet that would root out those opposing him, even anonymously. Light would not post on the internet as Kira, so you'd have ton of similar searches. Plus Once Light keeps heading the investigation team, those web searches are justified.
@@D_YellowMadness if he even searched for them manually
This whole theory is holding onto the assumption that Light would have done the same thing in modern times of what he did back then
rightttt
Everyone underestimates Light smh
Well... were f***ed
orochimarujes I know what you mean, it’s kinda annoying. But a lot has happened in the last 20 years specifically
Yes but before he got the death note odds are he has social media. They’d probably have to right his character as a hacker
Also if a camera did see him pick up the notebook who would care? "Oh my God that kid picked up a notebook. Therefore he must be the murderer."
But there is "Death Note" written on the notebook. If I were an investigator and saw a suspect with such uncommon object, I would have definitely made him my prime suspect.
ramesh, do you know how many emos and edgy teens attend highschool? "Uncommon object", lol
@@rameshbiswas5660 Are you suggesting that if you're working a case where hundreds, if not thousands, of criminals are dying all around the world from heart attacks and you just happen to notice a 17 year old with a notebook with "Death Note" on it that would be enough to convince you it was him?
Tbh I could never get the idea that real world deaths result in someone writing in a book if there wasn't death note. So I it's hard to believe that the internet would figure that out just by that video recording.
(Given the fact that the anime/manga don't exist in a world with a death note)
@@rameshbiswas5660 No school security camera will even be able to pick that up.
"Internet people will figure who Kira is"
Light: Turns on Incognito mode.
But Google would still be able to track light's browsing even if he uses incognito mode as, it will live a slight data trail and anyway the video was made in 2018 at that time chatgpt was not created so with the help of Ai and by tracking and calculating death anomalies internet can still be able to track and catch Light Yagami.
@@dilipkumarsarkar8455 would vpn help?
Light: *uses ExpressVPN*
L: Oh my god he gon X-game on this one
You’re missing the crucial detail that Light would attempt and almost DEFINITELY succeed in getting himself into one of those Discord servers.
You are right, but Light wouldn't do that. He is aware that if he stops a plan after joining a discord server, he will be one of the few suspects.
@@ari3903 he wouldn’t stop it, he’d use the information to throw them off
@@phoenix9620 it still applies.
@@ari3903 he literally went in to the police investigation unit lol
@@ari3903 no it doesn’t, he obviously wouldn’t do it directly, he throw them off by giving doing things to throw them off because he knows what they would be gathering intel on, he wouldn’t go in the chat or whatever and try obscuring their data because they’d find out its him
I'll take all of this into consideration, thanks for your help.
You are already using a google service.
@@hicksskating2084 lol shinigami light uses android
Light Yagami nani
Well you are already exposed
Haha
Without knowledge of the notebook, I dont see Light being caught. In fact he probably wouldn't even need to hide himself with the amount of support he would he get.
But with all that support L can slip in and see his plans and were he’s at who he is and all that
@@circa134 It would work both ways. Light could use the internet and his vast amount of followers to figure out who L is, or at the very least the people working with L. I'm not saying Light or L would win, just that they would both benefit and suffer to the way information is spread today.
@@FlashReturns good point they could probs find out that wammy house exists cuz internet and connect that 2 L
The biggest problem is all those 4Chan examples were solved because there was video evidence to track those terrorists and Shia Lebouf. Kira wouldn't have a live stream or anything like the Riddler.
Also like in the show most people either wouldn't care or even cheer him on since he's killing criminals.
Light strikes me as the kind of guy who wouldn't be on social media, even before becoming Kira. He was popular because he was smart, athletic, and good looking, but he was never social. He didn't seem to have any friends or any interest in dating before it was a cover for his activities.
And if Google could out him so easily, how the heck do actual terrorists pull off anything? I think that people give the ever watching "Big Brother" too much credit sometimes. There's too much information going around online every second to pinpoint the suspicious activities of one person or small group unless you already have reason to single them out.
Jay B exactly, and also he could be using a vpn at night with tor on a random ass laptop he smuggled. Ryuk is constantly informing him and light would be that guy in the discord server. Imo light would get caught but not in a week like its said in the video
idk what im doing I think the video was generally pretty good but I agree there are a few problems with his analysis relating specifically to Light as a character.
+Jay B -- TBH, Light's not all that and a bag of chips. I'm pretty sure he's a psychopath and even if he just goes power-mad in a hurry, he makes quite a few mistakes.
Modern Terrorists have been using the same tactics since the 80s. It turns out that meeting face-to-face in a church basement every week is still the best way to avoid all surveillance except for infiltrators.
Charismatic leaders recruit disaffected individuals through some twisting of ideology (usually political or religious) to join a "social group" that meets in the real world face-to-face. After a while in the echo chamber, those deemed fit for advancement are taken aside after a meeting to perform some "test of loyalty" (usually armed violence, and/or isolating themselves from friends or family) and then are taken to the "next layer" of the organization. They are then placed in a militia unit or as part of a cell in another city, either to recruit more people or to stage an attack. Everything done so far is _entirely legal_ as long as no physical coercion or threats are used.
Once part of a cell, they move into a location chosen by the Organization and start looking for work. They go to work, they get along with their neighbors. All the while, they quietly gather equipment, train and plan their attack (potentially for years) and then execute it without breathing a word of it to anybody. They have no online presence, they never call home and as much as possible without arousing suspicion, they only socialize with "roommates" (aka. fellow cell members). From the outside they look like any other group of young men starting out in the Big City.
And unlike Kira, they aren't leaving a constant trail of dead bodies covered in psychological and physical clues for a detective to puzzle over.
Non-state militias like ISIS are basically just military units on campaign. They know how to hide from drones and satellites and they get funding through various outside means. Again, they have very little contact with the outside world, therefore there's nothing to track.
light is a megalomaniac not a psychopath, well maybe both, probably a sociopath.
good arguments, but your rhetorical question was actually answered int he video. Terrorist are able to do their thing because there's not enough people trying to catch them. But, if you assume that a lot of people would join forces to catch Kira (given his high profile kills and his "message"), it wouldn't take long.
4chan users: *tracks down the location of a flag by mapping out the stars, listening to the animals, looking for flying birds or planes and their flight patterns*
me: *loses to level 3 chess bot*
me: outplays bronze noobs in a 1v3 in valorant and still dies
@@neojenshi4055 me outplays pro overwatch players and still loses
@@scherebeatle me outplaying Faceit Level 10 csgo players and still getting my shit beaten
The difference is not the intelligence, it‘s the motivation. Most people could do impressive things like the ones mentioned, but almost noone sticks to it long enough.
@@zerozone5848 me go ham on apex, still dies
1:42 Light Yagami was not an 'average' high school student but rather he was an 'ideal' high school guy for every being.
He was a genius, attractive, reputed guy and a beloved well-mannered son.
No,
let me explain why in detail.
The only reason there was a light to shine on light (mhm) in the first place was because of his underlying "true" motivations for doing what he did, boredom. He was on a quest for self-realization just as much as changing the world, if not more. Even if he fell for L's first trick, if he had stopped there and not used police information, they likely would never have gotten close to Light. In a world with internet, Light would never have tried to challenge L in the way he did and your premise seems to rely on the internet replacing L, not that he is also a player. There are no surveillance in lights home, and even if we assume all his electronic cameras are always watching, he could simply use a desktop monitor without a camera and make sure his phone never faced anything revealing. A mega-genius like Light would be aware of all potential risks of his devices and would prepare for the worst case scenario. Perhaps the most dangerous moment would be when he first comes into contact with Ryuk and if his conversation with him was recorded somehow. Although, even if this was the case, the few ears that would have access to this audio wouldn't assume a magical death note was responsible for the killings. Light said he was expecting Ryuk however, so he would realistically have prepared for this scenario as well.
You also forget that the deduction of L was at first based on the information Kira would have available to him. Light would be smart enough to kill criminals from all around the world since he would have access to the entire world's news feed through the internet. Using L's deduction methods would be impossible, and the only reason he found Light to at all was because light wanted "to get closer to L so he could eliminate him". You could argue that you could trace lights tv and internet history to the killings, but with sophisticated means of keeping ones privacy through VPNs and I imagine other things, he could hide this from at least the internet's eyes. Any larger and more powerful entity would have no reason to suspect him yet and so wouldn't allocate recourses to scour some random Japanese students computer. Besides, Light could simply make note of criminals names and faces through public tv's or computers at his school or other more creative solutions he would surely come up with and there would be no trace to him expect maybe at the most extreme of cases that Kira was likely one of the students at his school.
Light would keep up appearances with social media or he might not even use it. If he was using it he would simply continue as he was. The kind of personality change that could be detected after he found the notebook would be barely visible on social media and if anyone tried to figure out who Kira was through means like that, the internet would go on wild witch hunts for small perceived "evidence". Also, there wouldn't be anything near consensus on whether Kira was in fact an individual or a group. It would likely be seen as more plausible that a large organization planned it or even that a real god was behind it. Only very few would have the intuition and deduction to guess the truth, and even fewer would trust that intuition enough to actually believe it fully. Even fewer would have the recourses to act on those intuitions, and if they didn't have the recourses but wanted to amass help through the internet, it's unlikely many would believe him/her and be convinced whatsoever.
Also, there are many serial killers on the loose right this moment and the internet will never find them because they don't leave a trial. If there are no flag recordings or base recordings or photographs to base your geolocation-finding skills on there would be nowhere to start. Light would sit in his room after school, pretending to study, recording names outside in the open and would never be suspected of anything.
There are other points I could make because frankly there are so many, but the last and perhaps most important one would be - all of Light's information would be publicly available, but so would almost everyone else's, so his ability to threaten peoples lives would be so overwhelming that only people like L, N and Mellow and secret organizations with secret members would be able to do anything about it. Even then, Kira would, as he does in the manga, threaten presidents and leaders to stop funding for investigations. He would hold the entire world hostage, and because of the internet, this time it would actually be true. Simply the threat of Kira killing anyone posting any investigative efforts online would be enough to discourage all but the most devoted. So the idea that all the internets brainpower would be pooled together is a pipe dream and it would probably end up looking more like it did in 2003.
period lmao.
Smart man
Kira threatening the internet would indicate the internet knows people are dying in odd scary patterns. It would be very easy for them to notice the pattern of prisoners or bad people dying strictly if they had a public face or name, if that solely was the case the gov would also host experiments with prisoners close to the introduction to L.
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@@impression2563 It would take an extraordinarily long time to even implement that. Even longer to do a correct narrow search. And good luck with coincidental deaths with intentional deaths. And then good luck getting the correct country and being able to distinguish the right person
This entire argument is based off the premise of Light doing the same things he did in the manga if the current version of the internet existed. But thats just it, Light would never do those same things if that was the case.
You're holding two separate eras of time accountable by the same story.
Wouldn't it be more realistic to imagine how Light, equipped with his same superior genius level intellect and his same Death Note we all know, would go about his reign of terror if he actually NEW about the current version of the internet?
Obviously the entire story would change, because if Light lived in the current time we live in, he would already know every point you brought up and more, leading him down a completely different path that we saw in the manga.
Vegeta thank youuu I was looking for this comment. This video is kinda silly
yeah but how would light know that a book allowing him to grant death would fall into his possession? answer is he wouldn't and if he's is a regular user of the internet beforehand (which he would be in today's society) well this video covers
@Jack park and there are plenty more that have been caught and intelligence doesn't determine if you're caught or not it's circumstance and tangible evidence or lack thereof
@Jack park dude there's no need to be so hostile geez
@Jack park also it's not a natural death if your death was caused through a magical artifact it's murder but i get your point it would look like a natural death if it was seen by a random person but if the deaths are happening at such a rapid rate and the majority of deaths if not all of them are public figures it would be looked into
Yeah, or he'd get a VPN.
VPNs do little to protect your privacy or enhance your security, unless paired with other changes.
VPNs cannot encrypt data outside of the connection between your device and the VPN server also there's a "no logging" policy which is completely wrong (state of Japan we're talking about; It's all going to be logged).
There's not really a lot that VPNs do other than hiding traffic from your ISP (Leaks do happen to expose this very often).
Light would use Firefox (for regular activity) and TOR (for other illict activities) making it harder to trace.
Light was portayed as a hardworking, talented, and successful young man with a strong willpower and "justice" (although corrupted soon after with a God complex); Light is incredibly ambitious, with the cunning and creativity to carry out his goals (such as "Becoming God Of The New World", "New World Order", etc).
Light is basically a genius and often adored by his peers (students, family {Although not shown visibly, it was subtle}, and even Lawliet Obrah {L} as he even considered him a potential replacement in the event of his death, despite his suspicion.)
Light would also have to be modernized in this situation (As the video author made L, Mello and Near basically as their peak which is they're useless unless compared together and Mello's sacrifice is what stopped Light from outsmarting Near (He would of regardless).
So Light is around the level of a Extraordinary Genius I'd say...
Now, we modernized pretty much all important characters we need to create new plot and proceed the events which is pretty much impossible due to Light, L and Near all being unpredictable in some ways.
Also nobody will make the leap of "Oh, it's a magical death note thingy" and would assume past events happened before the events of the person's death so they're continously fall victim to Light's unknown killing method.
The only reason L got it was because of Plot.
*That is Light is extremely arrogant and has a god complex, and can panic when these things are challenged so he makes these kinds of mistakes given the resources of L the plot required him to be written in this way and you know the rest*
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@LiL Speng You are indeed correct but that invalidate my other points.
CZsWorld, I read that in your voice, your channel is so awesome, you're so cute, me an my boyfriend watch your videos (me more because I like horror movies more, I just got more into Korean Horror an cant remember if you've reviewed any recent Korean Horror movies, I am so sorry if you did an I havent seen it though i dont mean to be disrespectful
My dear friend, your entire argument falls apart when you consider that kira's whole sense of justice and intelligence would be different in a more modern world. Considering he is a smart character, he would already know all of this and would have solutions to this. You have massively underrated kira's intelligence. If he was really smart, he could even enter a private it chat.
How
I love the amount of passion with which he makes these vids. I think he truly loves to talk about fiction and make mind-bending theories
One Shot : *Releases*
Well now this is awkward
Hi L!
Hahah
💀😂😂
Lmao
Aren’t you dead?
So basically....4Chan ain't nothing to fuck with.
and Google, and Facebook, and TH-cam, and Paypal, and SnapChat, and...
I think 4chan and the internet would support light and troll L instead. In the anime/manga there are forums discussing and supporting Kira.
4Chan is a beast of raw chaos. You can't be sure what it will love, hate, or ignore. But when it sets its eyes on something, you know the shit's about to go down.
You mean like Tumblr?
I think the internet would be divided between Kira supporters, anti-Kira people and people desperately trying to convince themselves that Kira isn't real. Honestly there could be a pretty interesting series about that
The fact that no one still has solved Light Yagamis remaining life span in chapter 5 kinda throws a dent in the whole internet thing
WTF!? No it wouldn't!!
After having thought about a modern-day Death Note scenario for literal years, I've recently come up with a strategy that Light would be able to use in order to operate as Kira while remaining nearly untraceable.
Now, admittedly, this strategy would have to assume a few things. In the original story, Light initially didn't perceive there being any threat to his reign, so he carelessly wrote names in the death note that were all available through local resources and during his free time, two factors which allowed L to very easily narrow down the suspect list to Japanese high schoolers. So, this strategy assumes that after Light discovers that the power of the Death Note is real, he immediately takes to planning and preparation instead of carelessly killing, and that he is aware of the threat that other internet users and massive tech companies pose to him, which, if Death Note were in the modern day, Light would likely be aware of their power to at least some extent.
Now, on to the strategy. Following the initial testing phase, Light would need to take a break to ensure that his initial kill, which was locally broadcast in Japan, seems like a coincidence and can't be linked back to him. In the meantime, he needs to covertly stockpile names and faces from a large variety of sources. Luckily, Light has a lot of options available to him. Being the police chief's son and being already on the path to becoming a police officer, having already helped solve some cases, his search history is likely already filled with crime and criminal related subjects, so it likely wouldn't raise any red flags for him to actively search online for criminal names and faces. We could also assume that Light's hacking skills have kept up with the times and he can still access his father's computer, and by extension police databases, without leaving a trace. Meanwhile, other avenues he has available to him are all the news broadcasts that Light can see while he just walks home in the first episode, newspapers which could be harder to track, or he could also make use of his popularity and start dating someone who's into the true crime genre, making it so that he could be searching for criminals using his partner's search history instead of his own and it wouldn't look out of the ordinary.
Of course, you may be asking yourself how he would go about stockpiling names and faces? Easy, through a digital camera, making sure that the camera doesn't have any wireless connectivity capabilities. He could easily take pictures of the names and faces of criminals. To be extra cautious, he could also make sure that his purchasing of a digital camera is difficult to trace by purchasing a used camera from a pawn shop or something instead of from a larger store or from amazon. Similarly, he should also buy a second-hand laptop or computer from a similar source to make sure the purchase can't be traced. Light has shown himself to be pretty crafty in the original story, so it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that Light would probably be good with computers, not only in terms of software, but in hardware as well, and he could open up the computer he buys and remove any wireless adapters found within to ensure that the computer remains offline. From there, he can safely take the SD card out of his digital camera and open up the files on his computer at any time, while also giving him the ability to encrypt said files in case anybody gets to snooping around his stuff.
Once Light has stockpiled a good surplus of names and faces, he should set a specific date and time at which a large amount of criminals worldwide will all die at the same time, especially any good high profile cases he finds, before beginning to kill criminals at a more hourly rate. This initial killing event would serve to immediately get the entire world's attention, which is incredibly important. Two main movements would start to occur online. The first is that internet sleuths would begin investigating the cause of the deaths, and will quickly deduce that Kira needs a name and a face to kill. Once they discover this, given the pace at which information spreads and the prevalence of the newfound Kira case in news and social media, this would quickly become common knowledge. Once that's the case, the second important movement occurs, which is that Kira followers begin to set up websites and social media accounts spreading around the names and faces of criminals everywhere that they possibly can. Given, once again, that the Kira killings are going to be the thing that everyone is talking about, there would be A LOT of online searches for criminals and Kira-related subjects, which would allow Light to more blatantly search for criminal information online, easily slipping in with the large stream of people searching these kinds of things. These Kira followers would be able to provide Light with countless criminals from around the world and from a large variety of sources. As long as Light diversifies where he gets his information from, getting stuff from multiple different websites and social media accounts and not relying on any single one, that is, leaving some criminals from each website alive to make sure that people can't tell Kira is getting his victims from any one website, then he should be untraceable. At this point, Light has established a secure information network without raising any red flags to tech companies, while also ensuring that the police and internet sleuths don't have any good information to work off of other than that Kira needs names and faces.
As far as I can think of, this strategy is tightly knit together and allows for safe use of the Death Note with next to no chance of getting caught. If anyone can think of any holes, flaws, or oversights in this plan, I'd love to hear them and be faced with the challenge of addressing them with further planning and preparation.
Plus, in order to further avoid the eyes of ISPs, Light could also make use of a vpn. If he wanted to be extra careful, he could search up the name of a specific show or movie that isn't available in his country on a streaming service before getting the vpn, giving him plausible deniability as having gotten it for the purpose of watching content and using school wi-fi safely.
Unfortunately for Light, there are at least a few problems for him. Firstly, Light likely only speaks English and Japanese. This is problematic because people are going to post criminals whose identities were only broadcast in their region on these forums, thus if Kira kills any person whose name was only brodcast in Japan and posted on a Japanese forum, it can be deduced that Light is at least passably fluent in Japanese. Since many of these local internet forums are inevitably going to be in English anyway, this is mostly ok, however Light has to be careful to either not use any Japanese forums or use a machine translator to kill using forums from around the world. The issue with that, though, is that the names of these criminals might be misspelled by the translator (although this can be circumvented by directly transcribing any symbols)
Another issue Light may have is that, especially if he isn't using a vpn, if some equivalent of L suspects that Kira might be japanese, it would be possible to confirm this theory by subtly blocking certain forums from the Japanese web and then deliberately leaking the names of anonymous criminals like Lind L Taylor onto those forums, then seeing if any of them die.
I guess the last concern is that if Light screams stuff like "I WILL BE THE GOD OF THIS NEW WORLD, JUST YOU WAIT L" in his room at the top of his lungs, his mom and sister might get a little suspicious
@@worthlesshuman5041 whit the vpn it wont be suspicions because a lot of people get a vpn just for security
I respect the effort you put in this, nice read.
The only strat Kira would need is to just look up names and kill people. Thats it. Like it actually is that simple. There is no feasible, realistic way for anyone to actually determine what or who Kira is, or to even consider that these deaths are the work of a random dude. Let alone actually find him.
Light got caught because L existed. People that think like L just do not exist in real life.
1 flaw:
The Death Note is magic, and without L's experiment to show Kira can kill without being present, they'd be literally no way anyone could predict it's Light.
Taylor Avalos Anime?
Yeah, but that's if L and 4chan worked together. Then that's a huge possibility of working.
really? there'd be no way of telling considering the fact that he only kills people that's face and name are public? there are thousands neigh millions of different working minds on the internet, Know the rule 34? if it exists theres porn of it? ya well heres a new rule for ya, if it breathes, we can kill it.
john dough Well he would also be killing people of *heart attacks* in various parts of the country where he couldn't possibly be at the same time. There's no way you could even tell it was one person without the test
I dont think this is a good flaw to point out considering in the show itself people knew kira was out there very quickly.
at first it might seem like the power of some god or something but it would be a very short time before people started acting under the assumption it was an individual or organization.
12:44 part of why kira went on for so long was that the japanese wiretapping laws are very strict and despite L going out of his way to still try to wiretap the japanese team didnt want to go overbroad based on this law
Whenever you believe google is spying on the people in japan anyway is up to you, however privacy laws are alot different in japan compared to U.S, China etc..
I really like how the one shot stroy that came after death note, by the same author, talked about this specific thing, in that story riyuk was bored again and wanted to give the death note to another smart person like light hoping he'll do awesome things with it, so he decided to sell it in a creative way, but once he was told about light and his adventures, he explicitly said that those tricks he used to do back in the day won't work today due to the development of technology, echoing the same sentiments of this video by the author of death note himself, but he also said that light will most definitely find a workaround.
*Google CEO dies of a hearthattack 40 seconds after this video was finished*
I swear it was not me.
TheAwesomeMarble thank u for confessing Not Me
It matters not they'll be replaced in 5 seconds by another CEO
Tell that to apple innovation
kill all the board of investor and the company go bankrupt
“How is he killing people?”
“We don’t know it must be a magic book”
Group or individual, no one would make that leap.
I agree, completely. It's just NOT expected and completely outside the pale for what we can imagine in a real world. And Death Note is a real world (with the exception of the Death Note) there is no one with super powers, there are no magical devices known to people. So people would not be able to guess that the killer was using a magic book.
Chrisfragger1 exactly. Clues or no clues someone with a device like this in the real world where this is supposedly based in could go on killing indefinitely.
Actually if I was in this guys shoes and people came knocking at my door asking me if I was killing people, I would say “yes I am and I’m doing it using a black magic book dropped on earth by a death god” then proceed to not leave my house for a few weeks while the deaths keep happening.
No one would prosecute this.
Yeah exactly. They cannot prove that book is the cause. EVEN if they found it, found ALL the names matched dead people... You are just making notes of people who publically died, out of a dark interest. There is NO evidence chain.
Light, or Kira, wouldn't be satisfied by just killing criminals, he would want the world to know that there's someone out there dishing out divine punishment,
Even with the lack of evidence, detectives could still build a psychological profile based on the victims and time of death alone, similar to what L did in the manga,
They don't have to. They just need to track whoever is looking up all of the people turning up dead.
Since the original wave of corpses was left in Japan they would most likely start there.
Then, after a few days and some brainstorming, they'd notice his schedule and realize that he is a student.
After that, all they need to do is wait for Light to slip up, which he would because he is a narcissistic, impulsive lunatic who has a history of slip-ups in the original series.
My guess is that he would reveal his connection to the police (intentionally or not) which would bring him down.
The internet also really opens up his options of people to kill which would make his targets way less predictable. He would be a lot less likely to target people that would help indicate where he lives. It would also be less obvious that he needs faces because who he could kill would include almost everyone with the internet. The real problem as you mentioned would be the search history
Which is why you use TOR to look up criminals. That why your search history isnt being logged and your IP changes everytime with the click of a button.
Personally "if i have kira's philosophy" I'd be honest and use the internet to my advantage and spread my cause more worldwidly and get potentially hundreds or even thousands of supporters
Imagine if 4chan got access to the note. Someone would start selling pieces
Dude! How much do you think an entire page would cost ?
@@princesoulger999 a few hundred thousand dollars for half a page
lmfao ohexploitable.jpeg
It would be of no use to them. Hillary Clinton has no heart.
Pieces? ... Work it into name tags on products making people kill themselves accidentally
1:43, Just nitpicking here, Light isn't an average student, he is one of the top students in all of Japan.
He was THE top student in Japan
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like eh debatable
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like L would've won if a simp shinigami didn't kill him
@@oriharaizaya5524 "simp shinigami" is the perfect name.
@@antoniomolina3612 yes but not of the world....on the internet you might be able to find someone way smarter than him. The point in not Light against one single person but the whole internet.
Light, being light, would have taken this into account and would have found some way to shake this. I think a lot of his choices would have changed based on the accessibility of information
It's a shame the dude in this video isn't quite the most intelligent. It'd be far more interesting
-ryuk
Light is literally a Genius, the author made him to be one. In a modern day setting, Light could be an expert hacker and would take extra steps to cover his tracks as well as the fact that there is no visual media of the Death Note being real in this scenario
He was already shown to be able to hack his fathers computer, he could easily be one of the worlds best hackers with some time and dedication!
@@Nsun07 "in a modern day setting"
Light would have been way more harder to figure out if he wasn’t only killing criminals in Japan
I don't think so. Light helped in the past police force to solve cases. And probably knows how to enter in the police database. In addition the police chef son, he probably knows enough how to do it. And know his father's password and stuff.
if some dumb trolls online who are probably 13 can find the location of a SECRET GOVERNMENT BUILDING and DESTROY IT, I doubt they'd have any trouble finding Light
The problem is: people wouldn't go for the "magic" side of the thing. Government and internet would think deaths are related to food/toxic substances in water/viruses... That kinda thing. Kira could even use coronavirus as his weapon, and never be caught
“Contracts Sars/COVID19 and dies from it 1 month later.” Unless the person never goes out and meets people only on discord this would be untraceable
@@Ballin4Vengeance 🙄
@@Ballin4Vengeance if that's the case then I'm guessing light can just use a vpn and look up the faces of his next victims through social media or news articles
@@theguyfromtsukihime3898 this to or books sold online or use public computers
*perhaps.*
I would like to see a one-shot or a fanfiction about how light would struggle to keep his identity a Secret from 4chan and how he would be always on thin ice
@Potato_ nice contract me if it works out and if you need a hand am Available (depening what it is)
This video just made me realize, since I can't picture things in my head (aphantasia) I wouldn't be able to kill anyone with the deathnote lmao
Plot twist: Light takes all of this into consideration and becomes a genius hacker. Check.
Right? Folks not taking into consideration that if he was born at around our time he’d know he’s always being tracked etc etc, and might even be a computer genius too. There’s a reason people still get away with highly illegal stuff on the internet
@@Moriartart Wait... Criminals get away with stuff?
“Hack google” right.
@@koatam yes...?
Just because he is smart doesnt mean he can become a genius at hacking he would have to learn it
They wouldn't know he was in japan tho. because he has access to our modern internet he could kill criminals from all over the world really quick with more diversity.
They'd find a pattern eventually. Search patterns for things that come up locally. For example, where you search a term has influence on what link shows up at the top.
@@IchHassePasswoerter in that kind of situation, you'd initially kill someone known all over the world with the death note. If you were to actually test it it'd be easiest to find out. The other thing is that Kira's existence was only acknowledged truly when he took on L's challenge. The death note didn't cause light to lose. His own mistakes and ego did. the way I see death note is that it was never about making the world a better place
L was able to figure it out pretty easily, and you seem to have forgotten that Light did kill criminals all over the world, which is why the Interpol and the FBI were involved at first.
Still can do it.
F.e. First murder was in Japan and the hostage situation in the kindergarten was broadcasted probably ONLY in Japan.
With this they could even asure this information.
@@Ballin4Vengeance just pointing this out not saying your wrong but I’m theory could he work with people online from around the world that he might know to kill people that are televised only there?
Dude, Kira vs. The Internet is the single *BEST* "versus debate" I have _ever_ had the pleasure to read, hear or even _think_ in my life! I never knew I needed this so much! A lot better than your typical versus debates revolving around big explosions that I'm already near sick of seeing out there with nearly absolute dominance.
You know what? Now I think I really need something like this: A series about someone trying to hide a big unatural secret (doesn't have to be a serial killer with a supernatural notebook) in the modern days from the entire internet! Avoiding calling attention from both the public, the government and the corporations in trying to remain a secret. It can be anything. Even your average Urban Fantasy setting would work. I just wanna see how a "magical secret" would remain undiscovered in our modern society.
On it.
Oh my god , the amount of research you have done for this single video is amazing , glad that I came across this video , definitely one of my favourite video
This only works under the assumption that LIght would follow trough with his original plan and wouldn't adapt to the current state of the World
Finally! Someone points out the obvious.
Your comment assumes that he can adapt to it.
Filip Ferenčak He has shown to be capable of adapting to near impossible situations.
Tee m But not to every...
And under the assumption that anyone would know who light is
When you think about it, Modern Internet Light could still become quite a powerhouse with the death note, as he'd know to use modern tools. The obvious is to hide suspicious searches using VPNs and relying on software that just doesn't have trackers in it; basically everything has some workable alternative.
However, he'd also be able to use social media to his own benefit. With some caution, he can turn his social media accounts into his own personal alibi generator. He would do regular every-day stuff and post about it online, but set up deaths to occur at the same time; that is, assuming he wouldn't have a reason to reveal his control of the time of death to anyone. With the world breathing down his neck, why would one individual detective get beneath his skin the way that L does in the anime?
Honestly, he would probably just operate with a man-in-the-middle type of strategy. Basically instead of finding the information himself, he'd figure out the name of just one criminal, then write "searches the internet for criminals and copies their names, pictures and details of their crimes, then prints this information out and brings the envelope to ________ (a location where Light (or yet another m-i-t-m) could pick it up), before going home, erasing all evidence of his recent activity and hanging himself." Then he could just repeat this process with a different criminal later. Even if they tracked down the man in the middle, which would already be a gargantuan task, they'd still have no way of connecting it with Light unless he was dumb about the way he handled the exchange of information with his puppet. Which he wouldn't, it's still Light we're talking about.
Beta Factor Also, nobody in the real world would know about how Death Note works, and it is a gigantic deal!!!
There would be tons of conspiracies about it, at it would push the investigation sideways for many years. Who does it? Some organization? Some aliens etc etc.
@@kingol4801 yeah. Authorities would spend months looking for the method used to commit the murders, testing for super complicated poisons and such, because obviously if you see someone dying you expect a cause that can be explained by natural laws rather than assume it's a supernatural object like the Death Note.
Well... We are taking in consideration that "L" still a factor?
If no... every time, some know criminal get killed and for some reason in his internet search have other know criminals... Them for some reason his neighborhood say that he was always going to some unknown place to send a envelope.
Some other know criminal get killed or dies... The police see the same thing as the last one...
They contact Google or another internet provider in the Kanto area, cause the know criminals, in this propose, are going to gave Light the names, planes and public transport are not a option.
They see some strange internet access in some area and go to investigate.
They go there, or just star to following him.
They see him giving information to a school boy and go on a investigation to him.
They question the paper with a lot of criminal names and... Well, I think it is pretty obvious what happens.
Chara Dreemurr You underestimate the power of death note, lol. This can be simply negated by “X person dies of accident, but before that they receive page and fully fill it out with the names of criminals. Of course, they research the names themselves. In case they are captured, they can be ordered to suicide or whatever. Also, they are ordered to simply write the names down, and hence, they have no idea that their action actually kills people”.
Lastly, the police (or ANY logic based detective) won’t even consider the pages the main cause of death. Nobody! Be realistic. They will try to find what happens with the page afterwards (if that has not been destroyed by the puppet already). And will get stuck in a dead end.
Then you can repeat the process with some other random person.
You seriously underestimate the power of death note, lol. It gives the user an ability to kill people from any distance in any location and mind-control them (before their eventual demise). These powers alone are close to being top tier, lol.
All your analysis is wrong because you assume that people will know how exactly people die (I.e. they will know about death note). But here is the thing - they won’t. The power of disbelief, conspiracy theories etc is astonishing. Hence, they will simply lack any reasonable evidence to, well, do an investigation. Add on the precautions of making other people to fill out the death note + make all death random/accidents/whatever etc (limiting the correlation between the method of death to 0).
If anything, people would believe it is some “final destination” stuff going on. Not some oddly specific notebook killing people (seriously, you wouldn’t even consider that an option if you haven’t known about the anime). Case closed. No suspects, but a trail of bodies of both innocent and many more guilty.
Also also, the police won’t act rationally or perfectly. If they did, there would be 0 unresolved cases. Still, people can get away with practically anything these days. Add to that some mythical object with leaves no evidence and little to no trace, and you will never be caught as nobody would be able to prove or suspect you directly. Maximum, they will follow your puppets, which will be clueless and know nothing.
Also, even if they prove that pages kill, they will not know that you can manipulate one’s behavior or the rules of the death note. Hence, again, there is practically no chance of them catching you. GG.
If light got the notebook now, he would have noticed that the internet is catching up way faster than L, so he wouldn't have driven himself into finding L as a egotistical battle of wits, for him it would have been easier that he remains anonymous and just keep writing the names. Like even if the internet knew it's a student doing all of this, what could they do, people would have no idea that there's a notebook and a shinigami involved in this. Light still would have continued writing the names and become the "god of the new world" which he wants...
this is briefly discussed in the anime, where Light says he has dedicated fan sites, very early on, imagining those but on a larger scale is kind of mind-boggling. There would have been a discord server to find L's face and name long before L announced himself to the world and if not, the very second that he sent that first broadcast to Kira. Light would 100% have access to all of L's servers, he's smart enough to not immediately out himself to algorithms and once the Kira case becomes public, there's bound to be thousands of people even more religiously searching for known criminals than him to throw algorithms off.
Misa and L would be effed way harder by the Internet than Light, both being celebrities in their own right, Light may have a few photos and maybe videos of himself online, but as Kira, he's untraceable by those methods. I'd liken it more to well constructed limited information ARGs than the Internet tracking one specific person, some of which are still largely unsolved.
I have to think that if it took place in 2017, Light would be far more careful than he was in the anime, where he was basically rubbing his actions in the faces of people trying to catch him, and actually wanted to maximize the amount of attention his killings received...
Joseph Fernando yes he did, for one simple reason. For as carful and cunning as light is, he has one down fall, his ego. He has a god complex and wants the attention.
Now if he would counter act this to 2017, I don't know, I don't think he would, but I can't say for certain
I don’t believe light ever considered L to either be real or as smart, and so I believe hindsight is the real lynchpin, not the year. Light failed because his initial entrapment in the game of wits came about because he didn’t think it could be traced back to him so quickly. Knowing how thoroughly he has to cover his own ass could have drastically changed the outcome in both situations. Tor is a good example of how one can hide on the internet today.
He would need to be or have a follower that is the best hacker or something like that to maybe escape from google and the internet.
Which is why in the Netflix adaptation, Light is actively directing his higher-profile murders out of Japan. And when he spreads his own "God Name" of "Kira" he selected it because it's relatively neutral: it's a Japanese pronunciation/writing of the English word "Killer"...making those who would hunt him believe that he originates in Japan.
And it's also that care which was a problem. See, no such overt "Google searches" were performed because Light was accessing his father's police database for 99% of the criminals. L thus justified the lack of open searches for criminals pre-Judgement with the explanation that Kira had access to police databases; if he's not using Google, he must have access to a private criminal database such as the ones that police forces regularly use. Thus L sprinkled bait case-files throughout various police databases...and Light picked one concerning Japan to throw the trail that direction. However, L set that seed in the specific database Light was using...which is how L knew that Kira was connected to that police force in America. (I believe the Seattle Police Department. Or Chicago Police Department. One of those.)
And it's also part of why he uses Watari to get information on L's true name...avoiding the entire possibility of the internet realizing that the person looking for "world's greatest detective L" would be Kira by preventing the former thing in the first place.
Or have a private database that permits him to find victims without cluing Google and the Internet into his search history. Something like a police criminal database, which he regularly frequents and has access to because of his police chief father.
(Which is how L in the Netflix adaptation tracked Kira/Light to that specific city.)
I blame his teacher for putting him next to the window
I blame his parents for giving him birth
@@0uttrr I blame ryuk,for being ryuk.
@@dadneeder I blame all shinigami for being a shinigami
@@Coldest1_ I blame his parents for sending him to school
whatt? so sum other fuq can use it for selfish gain???
Imagine, you have the power of literal death on your side and 4Chan just does a sting operation and lands you in prison
ok question tho
why would their first assumption, or even 100th assumption being that it's one guy writing names in a notebook with magic
moral of the story: the Internet is the most powerful force in the universe and nothing can stop it
The Webslinger A Black Hole traveling near the speed of light would destroy our entire solar system before our best scientists even knew that it existed. Let's see Pepe stop that.
jerryborjon how dare you question the one true god pepe, only rivalled by lord helix master of anarchy
moral of the story: 4Chan is love, 4Chan is life
Nothing except the Internet Service Provider.
BatBoyShark so the real god of this world is the Internet provider. Pepe is our lord and savior.
Light: Im the god of the new world!
Internet: *Im about to end this mans whole career*
Light:I’m the god of the new world
Internet: Say some sike now
@@tentauwu5453 U mean Sike?
Yea I changed it
Ima about to end this whole man’s career before he gets the chance to get a career in Law Enforcement. :)
Literally
14:00 me who likes everything on social media “I’m immune!”
In my opinion a situation like criminals randomly dying of heart attacks wouldn’t become a large situation but a TH-cam conspiracy that a god like figure was angry or something mysterious was happening. it would never be thought that a human was doing this it would never even escalate in the modern world also Kira would kill less and more secretive
But what if the google CEO is a Kira supporter
(THANKS FOR THE LIKES!!!)
Imagine what google could do with the death note
we're all doomed if google had death note
Zappy1919 it's not like Google ceo information getting tracked too huh?
And started censoring data without permission to stop people from finding a convicted killer and stop me when this is illegal.
Wouldn't stop /pol/
To be fair, Misa had the eyes, that's how she knew his name.
Exactly. That was conveniently left out.
I think this video over simplifies many, many variables that the manga/show would handle with extreme nuance. If it was set in a more modern time, than you'd have to take that into account for Light as well, not just assume he would be killing in the EXACT same way he would have in the past.
Something I always find interesting is Light lost in episode 2. Allllll the way back then, he already lost. If he didn’t try to kill L, then L would have no proof he exists, wouldn’t have a location on him, even if he did figure out light was likely a student, there are far too many students to ever narrow it down.
His attempt to kill L was his loss, and every battle of wits from then on, even if he wins, is a losing battle
He has an untraceable magic killing book. If he had control of his ego, he would never have gotten caught. But like Light himself admits early in the show, he's ultimately killing to reduce his boredom. Caution and planning are means to prolong his game, and the thrill of risks is the goal of his game.
And when they actually find Light the neckbeards will organize a raid at his house in order to "clap them shinigami cheeks"
@Tangent of circle. good point. But clapping shinigami cheeks is too tempting to let the opportunity go by.
@Tangent of circle. was just tryna be funny mang :'^)
Don't think that's possible but funny tho
Tangent of circle. Yeesh, dude, it was just a joke.
these 4chan users would all have heart attacks before they could make it to him
Not gonna lie, was waiting for the vpn sponsorship to come out any second but then realized that this video was uploaded 2 years ago
😂😭😭😂😂
You do really good research for your videos man. Good work.
Theres one massive factor everyone is ignoring. Human stupidity. We could literally have him write a name in the notebook and the person die 40 seconds later, and we'd do everything in our power to make excuses
Light was never average though, he was insanely smart and the "regular" world bored him out of his mind.
TiroX maybe if he has the internet of today he would be a meme God satisfied with leasing the anons to a new world
He was also incredibly immature.
Watching the show for the second time I paid close attention to this theory that L proposes within a day of working with the Japanese police force, and the truth is there - Light repeatedly made childish displays of power and critical mistakes.
Many might say that he left breadcrumbs for his pursuers because he was confident, but in reality, not all of his mistakes came from condescension or even confidence - many of the mistakes he made, the mistakes that played bigger roles in his entrapment than others, came about from ignorance, impulsiveness and carelessness.
A good example of this is his impulsive murder of the fake L in episode 3, which led to conclusive proof that not only was Kira a person, but one living withing Kantai prefecture, Japan.
A much wiser and more paranoid Light from even a week later would have carefully tried to predict the trap but not the Light of that time, but that's the point - Light was only learning from his mistakes during the most crucial point in his profiling. It's not that he constantly left behind clues because he knew that they couldn't be put together, in fact only in very rare cases did he actually provide information with a completely controlled mindset (like when he had inmates write a series of dying messages), in all other cases he was either unaware that he was making mistakes, or he made them in haste while trying to cover up other mistakes (such as when he reacted to the police profiling him as a student so he changed his schedule; the damage is already done and all he's doing is panicking).
If he hadn't been killing with a magical force in the first place, he would have been caught a lot sooner, since the only thing that truly slowed down the investigation was the inability to even comprehend the killing method. L's profilings of Kira and Light Yagami were swift and meticulous.
Of course a magical killing method would still stump the internet community, but I fully agree with the video director here, that regardless of that speedbump, his identitiy would be revealed nonetheless and even more efficiently by the internet community than by L.
"magical killing" would still stump the internet community, sure but not for long. people would just lage on to the first and best theory. and work with that.
"someone got a new super weapon" --> "the super weapon is from japan" --> " a student has this weapon".
"we found the student!, the weapon is controlled by a book!?"
and just like that the internet found him, i could se that going down in les than 3 days.
it really comes down to the number of mystick killings.
but he would have some run time, as he could kill a good deal of people before the internet took interest.
but once it did.... well game over.
yea then it is a matter of him trying to do the hackers role and pick off people that way or rely on only a few who he can trust that can do all of the internet stuff and rely info to him so he can cover his tracks that way.
TiroX I doubt Light would have a social media account.
Light is much smarter than Shia LaBeouf
Honestly I don’t even know if Shia has a brain to begin with.
@@Mr-Moron It really amaze me that they found the flag based on the sky look like people have so much free time.
In this time Light would be adapted and even in his horse he was putting a mask and yeah the profile of kid thinking that this world is rotten is about roughly 40% of worldwide population.
I don't think people would actually imagine a high school student having a magical notebook.
Don't disrespect the king of BAyformers
You have just changed my biggest wish to be the entirety of the internet joining together to defeat something like this. The idea that tens of millions of people all over the world will come together to do one thing genuenly makes me tear up
Now THIS is a modern day retelling of Death Note I'd be interested in.
Agreed! We need that _now!_
Light would just use incognito mode. Checkmate!
TheAres1999 that and DuckDuckGo.
nice
I agree with Bintrux1
@Bintrux1 r/woosh
@Bintrux1 unless the vpn company itself realizes kira is using them and immediately releases his IP online
You know Death Note would be over if L just looked up Light's search history, right?
At least in modern day.
Why
TheEpicFailix they would find how light searches up every criminal that have died
TheEpicFailix the names of all the people killed are what he looked up
Cap. Orange Soghda McGuffiepans Also the time he looks at the websites matches perfectly
if someone got the death note in real life and never made their existence known they would never get caught
pretty bad take. L needed confidential police information to solve the case. The FBI were cooperating (which led to L getting closer to light via the death of ray penber), ties to the japanese police were used to broadcast the original message, etc. etc. What goes on in a prison is not publicly available information, and L needed all the cooperation and confidential information he could get to solve the case. No matter how smart the internet is supposed to be, they can't get anywhere with only public information unless light fks up on a ridiculously unbelievable scale.
They really found that man's flags mapping out the stars and flight patterns 💀
Lmao
how long was the flag up?
@@brandonzarakpege5069 for just 4 hours, it took a few hours till it got down
@@fhcidtx Holy crap nugget
@@fhcidtx only 4 hours???.
I think there are too many factors that disprove this.
1. Trolls and Kira followers will flood the internet with impersonators everywhere. This alone creates a huge wall between light and the internet.
2. Using Tor and other Browsers with good security will likely keep him on the down low.
3. The death note series is extremely unrealistic in one aspect, it doesnt mean much in terms of quality but it is a major factor. The death note is a supernatural device, it will be the last thing anyone would think of. First they would think drug induced heart attacks, then it would be physically induced heart attacks, then disease and after years of research and investigation it will most likely be too late. In your situation the internet would need to know what the death note is and how it functions.
4. Kira would most likely become an organization of followers and start a world wide movement. In the anime, people figured Kira was a single person. But based on the number of deaths, it would be way more likely to assume Kira is some sort of cult following rather than a super villain using an evil notebook. we
I brought up ToR browser in another comment. That coupled with good browsing habits, A homemade VPN, No scripts, No cookies, Changing some things about his online personality etc. Hell, He could make one hell of a fucking rabbit hole with his level of intelligence all thanks to the internet. Whats worse is due to the internet, Which he can use to hide, Physical tracking wont work either. Investigators are then screwed and it's likely his rampage would last for a really long fucking time.
Closer also he could start killing with foreign or unknown diseases the public won't think it's a magic book they will be trying to find a cure to the disease and wouldn't assume it was Kira
Vibeguy1052 yeah exactly there are too many factors to ever realistically figure out what or how Kira kills
Also, I believe every human who uses the Death Note (my knowledge of Death Note lore is a little rusty, so feel free to correct me) ends up being claimed by a Shinigami. So there would be no one alive to let others know of the Death Note. The amount of theories people would develop about the killings would lead people everywhere and nowhere.
negativlex32 I have a theory where is just a book drop in earth there no shinigami but it's a book that can kill people Kira achieve his goal the world is in peace there no terroriste etc he can hide the death note somewhere that nobody can find but before that I wrote the location of the death note with a message and then erase his memory but you have to make sure that you can retrieve the death note even if your memory was erased so you can exterminate a new organization criminal that want to rule the world for the memory erased we can say there are a rule in the note if you wrote I forget and for example I am Kira for retrieve your memory I know there a lot of hole in my theory but if was fun to write this theory::)
9:15 that literally had me shook
2015 there was the Death Note Live Action Drama. People leaked information about criminals and made them public, when the police tried to cover the faces of the criminals. The Internet could easily split in Kira supporters and Kira-opponents, who would work against each other.
How cool would it be if somebody made a death note adaptation where L wasn't a person but an internet group
It happened it's call "Shia LaBeouf vs 4chan: The race to the flag."
Wouldn't be that cool honestly. Okay, wait, it would be but then you'd see that all this isn't coming from one mind but several than all of them will sometimes have different points of view causing tension. Idk could be cool but one L being able to solve all these cases is fine too. Idk that would be interesting to see, an internet group called L cause even if Light managed to kill one there'd still be others. Nvm I have to agree that would be cool
I've long wanted to see what trolls could accomplish if they stopped being for the lolz and starting trolling *FOR JUSTICE!*
Savon Lofton that could be how Kira foils them he makes them like hate each other and flat out refuse to work together
What's that? Select text, search with google... now you owe me 3 hours of my life lol
Sherlock Holmes would be so proud of the Internet.
He’d first be horrified by the amount of porn people made of him😭
@@Moriartart BRO why would you even say that??? LMFAOOOO
@@Moriartart AYYYYYY rule 34
As long as you ignore basic patterns and don’t engage social media or media in general there’s no way anyone would catch Kira in modern day
The things that impressed me the most was the fact people found the locations of terrorists camps and such places like that amd eventually sent the location to someone and those places got bombed. And the flag. Like I never knew people had actually done this stuff. It's really fascinating and all now.
How fast would it take to find out L’s identity is 4chan took Light’s side?
They probably wouldn’t tho.
Teaming with a god? Cringe
Dabbing on a god? Based
Yeah.. imagine if doxing someone could instantly get them killed by Light .. 4chan would absolutely fake that various people they didn't like were L probably though, just for laughs. They'd be constantly sending both L, Light, and each other false leads and doxing the wrong people. Separating the noise from the signal would be a serious problem for all concerned.
@@RealCoolstriker64 4chan autisticly hates criminals tho.
@@peenoice5176 bro 4chan hates everything
Mug Light, continue his plan and Out L's identity
2 things:
1. what if light wouldn't go all crazy and kill 100s of people within a few days? if he'd just kill a few people here and there maybe nobody would even think that there is a killer.
2. what if the internet was actually on light's side? maybe the internet trolls would not try to find out who light is but try do find L.
- J
Then the criminals would keep committing crimes because they don't know someone is punishing them, so what would he kill for? He wanted to send a message.
Majority of people don't like killing, and don't like it when somebody can kill them anytime, anywhere. Especially people on the internet. Soon as they find out that Kira doesn't have the power to kill anonymous nicknames on the internet, they will raid his place.
Not to mention the organized criminals, the people that want the power for themselves, and the freaking government. The government has the power of propagation, and there would be absolutely no way the politicians would paint someone who can kill anyone without bullets in a good light.
Honest Hands sample the world governments have a 6 billion dollars reward online and everybody try to find him
True. most people would agree with his version of Justice cuz there are 75 m psychopaths in the world and they just put them in prison for few years and let them go out to kill people again. People would be on kira's side
Some people hate the idea that god govern everything, much less a mortal. Raito would be free-for-all target for Death Note power. Mark Zuckerberg will be in front of his door, in less than 4 hours.
There will certainly be those who would side with Light, but it doesn't take a united internet to bring him down. His ego would be his downfall. He wants the attention, and that is what does him in in the anime. It is was will do him in in the real world, only much faster.
Mr. imaginary axis, if I may, may I suggest you looking up Seththeprogramer’s video of/on how Batman could solve the Kira case? Please?
*Google keeps tabs on what you search.*
*Me: nervously sweating realising I was researching vigilantes in the real world and looking at masks and stuff on Amazon*
Death Note is getting wrecked so hard these days.
Knight Warrior the movie wasn't that bad. If you don't try to point out every difference from the movie, its pretty good.
TASLegion hello and ok? Dont really see why I need to know that.
Jordan Dunlap the movie was awful and you should feel awful
Z The Best In The Universe you should feel worse
It's because of that trash movie
This video *exist*
Hacker Light : Am I a joke to you?
alpha5and5
Yes.
@@BefallS well, the more information he gets from the internet, the more suspicious he will become.
I'm loving to read and to have this discussions, sorry to revive them :3
Light would most likely learn himself to program if it was a thing he could learn
Chara Dreemurr
They won’t know he got the information, it will only be a benefit.
Aside from using tor and being almost completely annonymous, there are also some people who already investigate criminals, either for themselves or professionally, there will be plenty of people searching the same things Light does, and he could piggyback off the popular searches of criminals and go unnoticed.
@Al3xh413 Just a smart kid? Light was a kid that scored a maximum on the hardest university's entrance exam, if thats anything related to the SAT's that would give him an IQ of about 152ish, 0.026% of the worlds population, this kid outsmarted the best detective in the world when he wasnt even at his peak. To say hes just a smart kid would be dumb. Those obsessive weirdos would be around 125 because they see a purpose in doing random shit
Modern day Light would be impossible to catch.
He deleted everything that could track him off his computer....
"The batman, this guy literally might be insane"
Loved that line
Dalton he is insanse
How
@@wickedbundy867 becuse he is batman
Minibo06 he is an unstable orphan who dresses up as his greatest fear and beats people up so they don’t commit crimes. I mean, that doesn’t sound crazy to you?
This whole theory falls apart when you consider the fact that Light would likely use Tor, and consistently act normal on all traceable social media accounts and searches. A modern age Light, would have this common sense and more. We'd have to assume he'd take the exact same actions as he did in 2003, but I doubt he would if the conditions were as they are now. Hell, his edgy ass probably would use 4chan.
Exactly. He would know ahead of time to cover his ass. Not to mention I doubt he would have an Instagram or FB. And even If he did it would be to throw people off and have nothing but innocent posts and pics. Too much assumption has to happen for this to work.
Ever since watching Death Note, I always wanted to see a modern-day adaptation go the route where instead of using the Death Note personally, Kira sets up a Social Media website on the Dark Web built around the concept of using a robot-operated Death Note to automatically kill anyone a large enough portion of the website's user base deems "worthy to die".
The only caveat being that you have to verify your own name/face data accurately, and have it freely available for anyone else on the website before being allowed to access the website yourself. Not sure how feasible enforcing such a caveat would be, but the information this video provides gives me hope it'd actually be more reasonable to implement than I'm currently assuming.
Also Light was a hacker then I'm pretty sure he'd still be a hacker now and a good one so he wont be caught that way... why is his ability as a hacker not taken into account
CasualCatharsis you're crazy! Oh my gosh!
The one thing you should know about the internet is that there's always someone smarter and better than you. Light as a hacker would be a joke to some of the groups operating on here, and more importantly, a challenge. The less skilled world would make way for the professionals who would then share the information secretly/publicly anyway.
He could try re-routing the information used according to what his computer is logged to find, but they'd just use that obvious tactic against him with decoys plus he'd have to be CONSTANTLY online literally spending 99% of his time on the computer just to circumvent attacks against a collective, uncollective of thousands of sinister and well-meaning members of society, each launching independent attacks in an ongoing race to find him first. Some with access to the time that he needs just by nature of their lives.
Light is very human. One obvious attack against him could very well mask one he'd never seen and having one person in the limelight with so much active time online, so much security and all the above-mentioned clues...
Not only that but it took him a week to set up basic defense mechanisms should his own family find the book. The one thing you should know about the internet is that there's always someone smarter and better than you, he'd be caught.
Other than my own channel, this is the only channel where I’ve watched every single vide on multiple times. Amazing stuff!!
6:15 I've been looking for the link to the song in the background for ages now, does anyone have it?