Harley DYNA vs SOFTAIL Low Rider S!
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- The Harley-Davidson Dyna Low Rider S vs the Softail Low Rider S comparison! Which one would you pick?
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Which Low Rider S would you all choose, the Dyna or Softail?
Dyna all day, softails are slow with about zero lean angle. Any dyna will run circles around any softail any day, unless they've changed the geometry of the newer softails.
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 Uh... yes they changed the geometry of the newer softails. New softails have more lean angle, better suspenion, and engine than the old softails and dynas.
Block has a whooole bunch of videos on the new softails.
For me Hands down, Softail the whole way. Better frame, engine, lean angles, and handling, with lower weight.
The Dyna had a special quality to it that the Soft tail doesn't have. The Soft tail LRS just doesn't have the feel of a special edition bike. Its not really any different than a fat Bob 114, aside from the visual queues.
The softail. I like both but the inverted front forks, full rear fender, plus the heat off of the engine has me going 114. Visual appeal wise I like the dyna lines better just subtract the mag color.
Softail for sure.
I’ve known Luke for 15 years and I didn’t even realize it was his voice on that call at first. This bike couldn’t have gone to a better dude!!! Congratulations, my brUtha!!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I will take the dyna over the softie everyday. I hate the softail’s suspension , hurt the back.
Baggerbro seems like a cool dude to go ride with and get some wings with.
Why don't you marry him then??
@@percfiend69206😂
Bet That 2 to1 is helping that dyna more than you thought
Why? What is the reason for 2-1 performing better than 2-2?
@@stefanpraxoulis3342 it creates some back pressure which balances the air flow giving better torque
Keith Wellington Thanks man! Been wondering about that for some time now
@@kwellin666 not technically right, but that’s what everybody says. 2-2 exhausts help scavenge more exhaust gas out of the cylinders, letting more fresh air fuel mix into the combustion chamber
@@stefanpraxoulis3342 Google it, do a little research on it and you'll see that 2 into 1 usually always outperforms 2 into 2. I personally don't like the look of a 2 into 1. However, the performance gains were significant enough that I had to do it. Definitely not disappointed, and will definitely do it again.
I was so focused on the Fat Boy and Breakout as my purchase once I complete my licence, but this Softail Low Rider S really impressed me. So many pros: big fuel tank, great looking, dual disk brakes, love the analog dials, good size for ‘smallee guys’, etc. Added it to my shortlist.
All the most out of pocket first bikes I’ve heard of, send it 🤙
For the movement and vibrations on a twin cam- everybody needs to try the kinetic structures mount. Excellent mount and severely reduces vibes and shakes.
The shake in the twin cam is what makes a Harley! And the clunk when you smack that shifter.
Just be aware for this comparison, that the Dyna LRS has a CVO built engine, it's essentially a Stage 3 engine maxed out from the factory. Where as Blocks Softail LRS has an untuned "stage 1" without the Kn Filter upgrade, and an poor exhaust choice for it.
The dyna has the advantage of a fully built up engine with a proper exhaust.
You're also starting the pulls from 3000RPM which is where the Softail M8 is starting to drop off in power, but the Dyna LRS's CVO type engine has a cam that works better a higher RPM.
Softail is gonna be faster from a dead stop, but since you guys are already rolling, that 110Twincam engine has a lot more advantages.
interesting analysis man 👍
Thanks for this
Lol no shit lol
Wow. Thanks for the info!
Ok so we can say the 114 is essentially a 107 stage 3 then 😂
It’s crazy watching this video and see my hometown man looking at the roads me and my buddies used to race down all the time growing up
This was the perfect comparison video!!!!
Last year was my 1st season on a harley!!! Switched from 20yrs of being crazy on sport bikes... figured i pushed all the limits i wanted to push and used up most of my 9 lives at this point.
Decided I have kids and want to live. Lol
Got into an old sportster 1200 custom for super cheap and LOVING it... buuuuut ofcourse it's already time to upgrade.
Been looking into both these bikes... ...and this video was perfect.
I live in canada... so a lil cooler weather over here... ...so I don't think i'll mind the heat... actually comes in handy at night when our temps drop... think im going with the dyna and gonna try to build it similar to your giveaway bike in this video.
Welp... now to binge watch your build series on it... lol
Thanks again!!! 🇨🇦🇺🇸 😜👍
first off congrats to Luke. I'm so jealous. secondly I agree with baggerbro , I would have one of each if possible. they both look so cool.
Rode both and did reviews of both. The Dyna just hits better. The ride, the pull, the ergonomics. If I had a choice, that’s the one I’d go with. Another great vid, Block!
What do you prefer about the Dyna? I’m torn between the two
I know I’m a year late but the winner sounded so chill and happy that block would be riding the dyna more before shipping it
Choose …. Dyna is a Dyna. Softy is a Softy. Accept what they are to like them. BUT. I like Dynas and I think twin cams not that bad
I completely agree with Eric on how you feel more stable on the new softails. I run a Fat Bob and the new rigid frame is mui bueno. I'm much more confident in turns now.
I've always been a fan of the rear twin-shock look, so put up a check mark on the score sheet for the Dyna.
BLOCK. You need a stage II power cam. I did it on my FXLRS with a TBR 2:1 megaphone gen II, plus autotuner. Throws flame. A world of difference.
So the stage 2 torque cam is worth it?
Your best video in a while. Nice work guys!
So I am getting my motorcycle license(at the age of 49! lolol). Was scared of bikes most of my life. Started the class this weekend in FL just got a 96% on the written test. I want to thank you because I searched How to Ride a motorcycle & you came up. I watched your videos. & learned alot & from Ms Blockhead. Your videos are great& in Orlando! So you know the roads -- excuse me NASTY drivers! lol. Your videos are great! I learned alot off them. When I get a little drive under my butt (& if I pass the riding tomorrow). Dropped the bike & kept stalling it due to gear issue (with me). But I'd like to meet the two of you! I think that would be awesome.
Like I said on Patreon, I’ll chose the softail everytime. I’ve owned both but like Eric says, it’s just more refined.
Did you have a dyna low rider s? How big of a difference is the ride going down the highway at 70? Thanks
@@mikeessary4925 I just traded my 2016 lowrider s in on a 2021 M8 softail lowrider s. The M8 is definitely more refined suspension wise. Does not overheat, and has upgrade potential all the way to 151 c.i.d. where the dyna is done at 117.
@@Steve_Kelly_Oak thanks man! Enjoy that bike!!
Just bought the 2022 Low Rider S with the 117cui... excited. Love the channel so im subbed.
Thank you blockheads for the quick update!
I love my 16 fat boy s… Just can’t upgrade to a m8 just yet
Good comparison! Thanks for the information. Oil cooled heads with cooler running sounds good. But the DYNA still looks so much better. Tough choice. I have only ridden the DYNA so I am partial to ot.
Should I buy a new 2022 Low rider ST and customize for $31K or buy a 2016 Dyna stage 4, 5K miles for $21K? The Dyna was a beast!
That is awesome. Congratulations again Luke! I love the Dyna.
Congratulations Luke. I want to rob you. But congratulations. Lol
this s one of my favorite videos of y'all two just ripping it and laughing having fun....
I agree about the mid mounted controls on the new Softail. I’m 5’7” with a 30” inseam, and my FXST felt a little cramped with the stock seat; that surprised me.
Never rode the Dyna, but always wanted one. My bike handles great - can’t complain, but the Dyna might be cooler because it still has that Harley rumble; the M8 is dead smooth. Guess I would pick the new one for the same reason I bought one, I had never had a new Harley, and that was a goal of mine.
been a fxr and dyna guy forever , never liked riding softtails either evo or twin cam but i havent ridden the new ones yet, i have heard from a few of my buddy's that still work in the dealerships and they have pretty much been really happy with them so i'm willing to give them a chance
Hi Block, love this vid. I'm based in South Africa and ride a 2013 Dyna Street Bob. I'm debating the dyna vs the softail Low Rider S for my next ride and your vid has given me food for thought. Thanks again for all your vids, bro. Stay safe 🤘🏼
Great video man. Thanks for putting this one together.
I've got an 06 street bob and love it!
I own one to but as Erick says Int cooks my leg no traffic but the are amazing
@@lsalazare8 they do get warm I can live with it. I like the way it idles the shake is one of the things I like the best
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Luke! Use the force Luke. Congrats on winning the bike bro. Remember what they said, respect the bike or it won't respect you.
I’ve said it all along and will again-I MUCH prefer the sound of the twin cam over the M8
Thank you for agreeing with me. Honestly I can't tell much difference between the two motors other than the sound. The Twin Cam sounds awesome. The M8 sounds like a Japanese bike. For the price I would rather just buy a Japanese bike.
@@Slking507 it sounds nothing like a Japanese bike I own a 114 with true duals, it sounds different bc it is different. M8 is far more performance built than any Harley motor before it, so in turn it sounds different
@@tbomb6994 I am sorry your bike sounds like a Kawasaki/Yamaha. But it does.
@@Slking507a quick cam swap and tune fixes that and makes it much faster than a twin cam
Both bikes are absolutely stunning... but deffo the Softail, because of the refinement of it, can't wait to get one!! Great Vid as always @blockhead
It's videos like this that really make me enjoy your content!! I love watching you build bikes and then when you finally get to ride it and brake it down for us it's the absolute best you guys are like a kid in a candy shop!!! If this isn't adulting at its finest I don't know what life is about
Exactly 💯
I'm 48 and this is the best part of adulting!!
Love your comment
Gonna have to go Dyna since I ride one, that 110 tire shredder kit is amazing but my street bob has the 2 into 2 Vance and Hines I know I'm leaving power on the table but 106hp\122tq is plenty for me!!!
I am almost sure its due to lack of tuner and those 2-2 exhaust pipes only good for making noise. Put a cam in that M8 with a tune and 2-1 exhaust, will change your whole ride. BTW if you get the mirrors from a touring bike they are a bit longer and let you see behind you. I am you size and had the same issue with my 18' fat bob, switch out the mirrors and good to go.
131cuin....soon
Been waiting for this video! Great comparison. I would choose the Softail LRS for the reasons you stated. Runs cooler, more refined (counter-balancers), and more future potential since the Dyna chassis is dead.
"35 is just a suggestion!" 🤣
Yea sounded kinda boggish when they hit off
Great video! I didn’t expect the Softail M8 to be slower!
The thug life did it for me 😂 and i literally have my 2020 low rider s in the shop today for the 2-1 installation I went with bassani myself 💪🏼 can’t WAIT!
Totally agree with you when I test rode the new low rider the ergonomics were very off for me being 6’3 with the seat pushing you forward and the pegs lifting you up, and Harley having power bars on it. As much as I enjoyed the power and suspension I knew I’d have to make some immediate changes to ride it and be comfortable.
you're pretty cool, i've never even rode a bike but i love watching your videos.
Also, you have to remember that the Dyna Low Rider has the Screaming Eagle heads...? Where as the Softail 114 does not. So, if you did a cam, intake, exhaust, Screamin Eagle M8 heads, the Softail becomes a fire breathin monster. Just more to factor into your comparison. I hope to do the Screamin Eagle M8 heads and the Horse Power INC fuel injection this winter..
You guys rock! Best comparison vid I've seen. Fantastic. DYNA ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good vid bros !
I got a 2014 dyna low rider (103 ci)Vance & Hines short shots and high flow air filter and computer tuned. All the power I need, hell never get into 6th gear unless I'm on the highway lol, but it's nice to have when u want to use it. The 103 seems to be an excellent motor, time will tell. Ride on brothers ✌
Choose hell, I'll take both.Very nice Blockhead.
I just rode the tail of the dragon 2 weeks ago I don't recommend you go this year, the road is in bad shape and they got all the guard rails pulled (hopefully to fix the road) . Mirrors down Eric I'm not at Disneyland don't want no Mickey mouse ears! 🤘
My bother had a 02 dyna lowrider with the A motor. It ran 12.62 at sacramento dragway. I had a 03 nightrain B motor and he would pull me no matter where or how we start. The A rubber mounted twin cams rip
13:21 "woooh 35 is just a suggestion". He sounded exactly like Jimmy from GTA V when he was yelling that his dad is a movie producer xD
I freaking love @baggerbro 😂😂😂 gives every video a ton of comedy hahahahaha and daaaaaaamn now Im even more in love with the Dyna!! Gonna be a hard choice between both when the time comes!! Awesome job Blockhead 🙌🙌 35 IS JUST A SUGGESTION!!! 😂😂😂😂
Thank you very much. 😊
@@BaggerBro Eric i really enjoy seeing you on this channel. I live in Kansas city but would love to tear up some wings or pizza with you. Ride safe and keep your head on a swivel down there in Florida bro
Awesome video! Looks like you guys had an absolute blast making it and ripping around. As you mentioned, definitely not an apples to apples comparison as far as performance mods go between the two bikes. The M8’s factory tune runs really lean. Add an exhaust and it’s usually a lot worse. They also do not like short exhaust, especially 2-2. Which you have on the LRS. Plus, like you said the M8 LRS already has the stage 1 heavy breather intake. Coupled with the crappy stock tune and the exhaust that’s killing your torque, your M8 LRS has a lot of disadvantages over the 110 Screamin Eagle TC on the Dyna LRS. Even if you didn’t change your exhaust and just got a professional tune done on the M8 you’d be closing that gap by quite a bit.
Agreed, that exhaust on the M* is really not fair. Would love to see equal tune on each. I own a 2014 Dyna stage 2 and thinking of switching to M8, but still heistating
As a 2019 Sport Glide owner Id choose the softail. I love the new frame, monoshock, and motor.
I wouldn't kick either out of bed though lol
Sooo true haha
@@BaggerBro holy crap! BaggerBro replied to me! Gotta screenshot and frame this bad boy. BRB
Ok, back.
Y'all should do a stage 1 107 vs a stock 114 comparison. Having ridden both, I'd say it would be really close!
Ohhh lol, just you wait. The real part begins next episode! 😉😊
@@BaggerBro I can't wait! I already saw the 131 teaser.
That grom is going to be a beast with the 131 🤣
Also, I just subbed to ya!
Suggestion ....use screaming eagle pro tuner and a vance & hines 2-1 and dont baby it when your running it in....no red line though..lol...my 2016 dyna s flies ....wdnt swap it for that softail ...but each to their own
11:00 - I started to think Luke was going to open the box and find a SOFTAIL Low Rider S... LOL! Block was like 🥺
Hands down the Dyna. I'm pissed they stopped making the Wide Glide
You should follow dyna nation on Facebook
Sure!!!
Harley Davidson needs to bring them back
I just saw that dyna in the Sacramento HD dealership. Cool to see.
I owned both the twin cam and the M8 and I’d take the 2017 over the 2020 AMYDAY!!! And I worked for Harley for over a year
is there a reason for that?
Different strokes for different folks. I'm curious to know the reasons of why you like the dyna better?
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Man that looks like so much fun can’t wait to get my first bike soon
Leaning softail.. so much more that you can do to that bike, as you have it basically stock. Love the comparison and your personal touches are sick!
The most important element is and always be the rider itself ! I like the vibrations of the twin cam myself at idle . Need to see whats going on behind you give the throttle a quick hit vibrations smooth out . Simple . I lived in Orlando F.l. and I had at that time a 2001 Super Glide, yeah it ran hot at times but not that hot were it would do damage to the motor . The oil did it's job . Dame I loved that 01 Super Glide. I liked the 01 S.G. more then my 04 S.G. the 01 S.G. felt more torquey then the 04 S.G. My observation between the two . Everything is about preference at this point
I rather save money at this point. I gave Harley Davidson enough already .....
You guys are having way too much fun .
Got my 2022 FXRLS! LOVE IT!
Ahhh yeahhhh my style of video🔥🔥🔥 killed it good job
I have the 2020 Low Rider S. S&S 475 cam, S&S intake, Trask Assault 2 into 1 exhaust, tune = thing MOOOOVES. I LOVE the sound and look of the 2 into 2 exhaust, but even a shorter 2 into 1 usually out performs them..
What a great video! I own the 2016 lowrider s and done up club style. I choose it because it's finally paid for!
That being said, 4 months later I traded it in on a 2021 lowrider s! Lol! - only $4k cash difference out the door.
Blockhead should’ve gone with a 2 in 1 exhaust for the more power honesty instead of “looks”
More compression from the 2 in 1 exhaust performs better than a dual exhaust does. That’s why most dynas or baggers that one a performance bike go with that choice. I noticed a huge difference from a proper tune, my bassani RR3 and air cleaner upgrade for my 96ci. I could just imagine the difference on an m8 or 117.
The dyna lowrider s came with the 110 screamin eagle. Can you explain the screaming eagle edition?
Traded my twin in for a 114 stage I. Big difference in terms of pull , acceleration engine heat and suspension. My old twin was good and had same brand exhaust rhineharts but with everything else that old bike had no problem stopping but the new bike with the ABS on it stops well and is very good controlled when stopping. I can stop at a shorter distance with the new bike that's at least 200 lbs more. Was wondering before y'all swapped what that noise was. When you said something about the rev limiter the lightbulb went on.
Predictor vrc mount for front and a tcr rear mount will change the hole handling out look on a dyna
I definitely want to get a saddlemen seat and get the RS SV crest stiched on. bike looks so good and color combo is awesome!
I would chose the low rider s 114ci with that tbr exhaust 👍🏽
Hey Blockhead I am still missing one video. The series of video you made how to ride a bike connected me to your channel, I was wondering if you could make one last video about what comes next after driving like parking the bike, reversing, moving around while bike is still off. Do even bikes have parking brake?
No, they don't. If you want to park at a slope (which is generally not recommended) you have to park it in gear to prevent it from rolling.
Which of these is smaller in size and lighter? My brother is 5'4" and 1 1/2 yrs ago he broke his heal fema bone and now he has about 15 screws in his legs. So I was wondering which one would he be able to handle for when he's at stop lights. He used to have a Softail Classic and he gave it to his God Son but now I trying to help him out on getting a Harley but smaller and light but fast. Thank you in advance. Shout Out from San Jose, CA ( Bay Area)
Since I haven't win b4, I'm buying softtail or dyno after winter. Get my license may, get my bike.
Where would you go to get your Harley tuned? New to the whole street bike world ‘coming from dirt bikes’ & im looking to get a Dyna.. I’d love to get it ‘tuned’ if they come stock restricted alot
Erick was a good choice for this vid hahah
The Dyna 100S motor has a SE355 cam from the factory. The M8 114S has a stick cam. This makes a big difference in power band d especially how far the torque extends through the range. Block needs a cam upgrade. I put the SE “Torque” cam kit in my 114 and it makes a HUGE difference.
This Dyna is a great bike though. I wish I had won it.
I mean “110S” in the first sentence, and “stock” in the second.
Is the stage 2 torque cam make a difference? Didbyou have it dyno tuned or not yet? I'm thinking of doing this. Thanks
Totally worth it. I didn’t have it dyno tunes or tested. I use the Screamin’ Eagle tuner and downloaded the map.
The power and torque are immediately noticeable. It pulls much harder from down low, and the torque curve goes much higher into the rev range. I had a stage 2 twin cam Softail 110 Slim S that had good power, but this has a lot more.
@@jcollins2826 thanks for the info! It sounds like I would enjoy it! I'm going to go ahead and do it.
Dyna here, good job on build. I prefer the inverted mirrors look (sorry bagger bro). Luke your one lucky SOB.
Looks go to the Softail .... for me ... but was very impressed with the torque/speed of the Dyna !! Good show .
DYNA !!!!💪
Nice vid Block keep ‘em coming
I think BaggerBro would be a lot of fun , if you come down here ( Australia ) we can party .
I own a dyna 117 imo its better than the M8 softail. The M8 is a little bit smoother but the M8 has more issues than the twin. Both great bikes. I love mine.
Twin Cam on that bike ain’t no joke. I rode a Softail lowrider S with a 107 m8, then rode a 2015 streetglide with 103 TC. The 103 felt so much torqued over the m8, also quicker. The m8 shook bad under hard acceleration WOT.
Torn between the two right now.. can’t seem to make my mind up!
Don't know if that Dyna will meet California emissions. Congrats to Luke.
CARB can suck it!
I have a legit question just got a 2021 street bob I’m wanting the bassani sweeper pipes for it so I have to tune the thing to put them on everything I have read says yes figured I would get your opinion or what not
Dyno tune is the biggest difference. There’s a lot left on the table on the softail stock tune.
hey guys great video, I ride a 2020 Lowrider S I want to install a tuner and a full stage one what do recomend or brands,I heard you on the video you mentioned that the HD tuners are to restricted.
love them both but would love the Softail set free and tuned....
Softtail for sure but that dyna is is ridiculous & looks amazing!!
Not going to lie, pretty happy about the Dyna winning the races.
Although I do like the “gold” so much more on the softail over the dyna.
Same
The Dyna has a screaming eagle motor so it has better flowing cylinder heads. And was built by Harley Davidson as a high-performance motor where the Milwaukee eight is a standard Motor is built for more every day riding. But Milwaukee eight also can be built should have a Lotta power because it has a lot of valves and two spark plugs per cylinder and runs cooler.
It’s hard watching someone else live out your dreams 😂 love the vids
Seeing someone who is from my hometown is pretty sick. I used to live out there on Ponkan.
Great video mate, congrats to the new owner.
First time street bike 2020 Lowrider? Good or bad idea? Ive ridden dirt bikes all my life. Also thoughts on Screaming Eagle Kit...
Hi there - Softail has stereo speakers behind the fender? thank you ?