@@hybridEP3 if you want to think that...but dosnt detract from my statement that the 2016/17 fxdls is the one and only ORIGINAL DYNA low rider s....there are now COPIES available.
This is such an underrated video. I went with the new softail, but only because the dyna's were selling for the same price, with bad mods and 20k miles. If I had my choice between the two new, I'd have gone with the Dyna. Thanks for showcasing these two.
@@TheMotoJawn yeh how they have done that chassis set up the softail has always had this low seat height to it and feel tge cornering is reduced because of clearance.
I have the Low Rider s 2020 since last year and i am 6'4 also. Wirt forward controlls, tallboy-seat, and higher risers i am conpletly fine. Can ride the whole day long.
If I’m getting the one I WANT it’s the M8 all the way. If I’m getting the one I can afford? I’m waiting until I can get the M8! I rode a 114 M8 street bob and it was so smooth and so nice, I just don’t want anything else now.
@@TheMotoJawn I say that but I still absolutely love my sportster, and it’s an 883, stock! Supposed to be so slow and boring that it’s barely even more than a bicycle but i just love it! Then again it’s my first bike so....🤷🏻♂️. I actually thought hard about the new street bob. They just kept arranging those payments to try and get a signature but I just couldn’t do it yet. I’ve only had my 883 since last October and I want to get really familiar with it before I let it go. If I ever do let it go? I may keep this bike? I have a blast on it. 🤩🤩🏍
Love my '21 FXLRS, wanted a brand new bike that I could grow up with and after watching Laidlaw's video, the FXLRS is perfect for that custom project build I had since I was a teen. Too young for the Dyna, too old for the livewire.
I traded in my Sporty last year & asked myself the same question. A few hp/tq aren't noticeable, it came down to aftermarket support, build quality, & ease of maintenance. I bought a Dyna- replacing the battery in a Softy is a bee-atch. 4 spark plugs (have to remove the gas tank!) on the M8 too.
"Old school feel because it's a 2016"....man you made me feel OLD. Newest bike I've had is a 2010. I rode a 67' Ironheed for years....THAT's Old school feel lmao. Great video!
I LOVED my 88ci dyna. But yeah i'm on team softail now all the way! Although i'm for the sport glide. Bags cruise. And the jump from 88 to 107 is a massive jump anyway.
Your quote, "Felt more planted on the Softail". What is the difference in seat height if at all? I had a 1989 springer & changed the stock seat (which really had you seating down into the bike) to a Heritage seat & it really changed the center of gravity as far as throwing the bike over from side to side. What could of the seat height have changed, 1-1/2"- 2" ? The Softail feels smoother because it has more counter balancing which some people say takes away HP which you wouldn't notice (IMHO) because of the added displacement. I was thinking one of purchasing the Sporster 1200 models ( cheaper ) for short rides down around the Smokies/Blueridge area but been eyeing up these Street Bob & S models instead. PS: I also owned a 08 Superglide 96" ci after a 06 Road King. Plenty fast enough & big enough displacement. Add a cam, intake, injectors &, an exhaust & you are all set with plenty enough to lose your driver's licence! Thanks for the review.
Very very cool. This was just what I was looking to see. If I can work out to afford the lowrider S at some point I'll be happy. I did a demo last weekend, was super impressed. Blew my twin cam street glide away. I'll give up that big heavy fairing for sure. However, I'd take a late model Dyna as well if that's in the cards.
I had the 2020 low rider s but missed the dyna platform so bought the dyna low rider s and wish I had done it years ago the dyna has more soul and more grin factor to me 😊 also becoming a great investment now
I work at Susquehanna HD here in Harrisburg and wanted the new 2021 LRS in midnight crimson so bad. So I talked to my boss and he ended up doing a dealer trade with Brandywine to get my bike. I’ve never been there but damn do I respect and appreciate them for getting me my dream bike.
You can't go wrong with either bike, it always comes down to $. Me, I'd be happy with the 110 Dyna cause it's a great bike & less $. I just can't justify spending 18,000 on a bike but I'm sure that 114 is awesome!
Dude that 114 is sick. I was very, very pleasantly surprised when I rode the 2021 low rider. Definitely needed a few changes, but an awesome platform to start off with
@@danielnovak8293 biggest problem I had was the mid controls, they were so high my knees were up higher than the tank. That and the seat. Other than that a basic stage one but that would be just to make it look and sound cooler, honestly haha.
I love the dyna because of the sound and motor shake (rubber mounted). Those two things are a package that you get and M8s will never be able to reach the sound. I had a FXBBS street bob 2021 (new) and sold it one year later for a used dyna low riders s 2017 with 4k miles. Decision to not invest any further into the street bob was made when i was on a biker meetup and even the big guys with cool bikes had the ugly sound. It became clear to me that this is unfixable, otherwise those guys would have done it. I uploaded some sound footage of both bikes if you are interested. A lot of people see it like me. Either they don't care or they agree. You can also check online, for how much dyna low riders sell vs softail low riders. Even though newer and fewer miles, they go away wayy cheaper! But i cannot blame harley. I'm sure those decisions are hugely impacted by emission rules and stuff like that. They harley iron no longer sells in europe, because they could not match emissions with their air cooled evos (I believe). A M8 nowadays can be compared to a honda from a sound perspective, not gonna lie. The sound is in the history books now and probably never comes back.
@@TheMotoJawn It can improve it with a cam yes. But the high pitched whiny sound remains, sadly. This is what annoyed me the most. :/ It has to be related to the counter balancers or the cooling I assume, but I have no idea.
“Different Strokes”, I suppose… I have a 2020 FatBoy with a Stage One (Vance & Hines pipes)… it sounds great to me without being too loud and annoying the general public. I’m in love with it.
Of coarse the dealer rep will say the m8 . He’s gassing up the soft tail. The 2016-17 dyna will smoke the 2020 m8 114. The only reason the 2020 feels more planted is because it’s a balanced engine w solid mounts and inverted front end compared to a rubber mounted engine in the twin cam. The rear monoshock does not make the 2020 handle better. With a couple solid motor mounts on the dyna it will feel just like the m8 in terms of handling.
Imagine having to choose between these two bikes. The Dyna version is the better looking of the two (IMO). It is a shame that Harley did not use the same philosophy in building the M8 version and put a 119 in it. I know you can put a stage 4 through it. But the Lowrider S is meant to have a bit more bite to it than standard Harleys.
Now it does! Comes with the 117 now. I’d be hard pressed to tell anyone the difference between the 114 and 117 though. I’ve owned both. Spring for a stage IV. That was a fantastic upgrade.
I live so close to there! That's awesome! I don't know how you can ride those than not wanna trade in the sportster haha, i know deep down that whole ride home you were thinking about it XD
What year is the Low Rider S in this video? I’ve gotta 23 (❤️ it) and I’ve gotta single gauge on the bars. I wish HD had a slightly larger MOTO style race bike fairing for it
I own a Dyna lorider s and a2021 Fatboy 114 on the new softail lorider they put these skinny week bars that look terrable and the bike felt more top heavy then my 110
M8 any day. Better looking, better suspension, smoother engine and my 117 with TBR Turnout moves. Doesn't need anything, except led signals. And this bike sounds awesome. My old dyna didn't sound much different. What a cruiser is supposed to be and look like.
I like my 2008 street bob with wide glide front forks and triples twin 6 pot pm front brakes,upgraded fork internals and on the rear wilbers adjustable shocks with 4pot pm brakes.tge 120r twin cam is a vrod killer and the hdoil cooler keeps her healthy while the super meg exhaust let's the world know freedom is alive and well here in Victoria Australia.with 130hp 130trq at the wheel I'm smiles for miles rich.i don't have the same bike as all the rich kids I'm running 21inch front spoked rim and 17inch rear spoked rim wrapped in Avon cobra rubber.well I really like the Dyna low rider s and the Softail low rider s aswell...and so does everyone else so I'm glad I got a bike that will do what they can do if not better but looks a lil different.
@@TheMotoJawn #GlideDaddies #DynaBros #SoftyGuys #SportyBois was what my brother designated the lovers of each frame style. We were #SportyBois for a long time!
I rode a pipe of different bikes. New to older. I chose the 2016 Dyna lowrider s. The m8 just did nothing for me. Reminded me of riding a quad. Sounds like an old yamaha big bear. But, to each his own.
The one and only original dyna low rider s....the real deal
The OG 👍
@@hybridEP3 if you want to think that...but dosnt detract from my statement that the 2016/17 fxdls is the one and only ORIGINAL DYNA low rider s....there are now COPIES available.
@@hybridEP3 do not pray for an easy life...pray for the strength to endure a difficult one... Bruce Lee.
M8. All day. Every day.
@@TeensierPythonFr ..latest and greatest
This is such an underrated video. I went with the new softail, but only because the dyna's were selling for the same price, with bad mods and 20k miles. If I had my choice between the two new, I'd have gone with the Dyna. Thanks for showcasing these two.
Thanks for stopping by 🤟
Great video! I owned a 20 FXLRS Stage 2, I loved it. The suspension and engine on the 23 FXLRS is perfection. I own the 23 FXLRS and I'm very happy.
Thars awesome those 23s are amazing
Nice! as 6'4" Aussie I feel the Dyna more comfy with taller height compared to the softail Chassis. Bring it back HD!
Yeah I forgot to mention I notice the dyna sitting a little higher.
@@TheMotoJawn yeh how they have done that chassis set up the softail has always had this low seat height to it and feel tge cornering is reduced because of clearance.
Really? I'm 6ft 4in. Couldn't stand the Dyna LRS. Haven't rode a softail LRS, but my Fat Bob S fits me perfectly. Best stock triangle I've ever rode.
@@FXFBS540 yeh right thanks for headsup haven't rode 1yet
I have the Low Rider s 2020 since last year and i am 6'4 also.
Wirt forward controlls, tallboy-seat, and higher risers i am conpletly fine. Can ride the whole day long.
If lovin the Softail is wrong. I don't wanna be right! I hope to own the Low Rider S one day....maybe next year. Great review on both bikes!!
I support a lrs in your garage!
I traded my 2016 Dyna low S in on a 2021 M8 lowrider S. The M8 is head and shoulders above the the Fxdls. Only thing that sucks is the kickstand.
I still like the dyna with dual rear shocks. I mean real dyna lol.
Dynas look like a sportster.
Twin shocks is also pretty crappy when trying to tune them in. Can’t wait for the touring bikes to go to a single shock.
If I’m getting the one I WANT it’s the M8 all the way. If I’m getting the one I can afford? I’m waiting until I can get the M8! I rode a 114 M8 street bob and it was so smooth and so nice, I just don’t want anything else now.
Man I hear you! I think the same thing. Everytime I ride an M8 and then get on my sporty I'm disappointed lol.
@@TheMotoJawn I say that but I still absolutely love my sportster, and it’s an 883, stock! Supposed to be so slow and boring that it’s barely even more than a bicycle but i just love it! Then again it’s my first bike so....🤷🏻♂️. I actually thought hard about the new street bob. They just kept arranging those payments to try and get a signature but I just couldn’t do it yet. I’ve only had my 883 since last October and I want to get really familiar with it before I let it go. If I ever do let it go? I may keep this bike? I have a blast on it. 🤩🤩🏍
Come out and ride one. Ask for me when you come out.
I'm pretty sure the Dyna 110 isn't Counterbalanced, so it will 💯% have that "Harley shake" you're talking about.
Dyna is the real deal!
Cool fa sho 😎
Love my '21 FXLRS, wanted a brand new bike that I could grow up with and after watching Laidlaw's video, the FXLRS is perfect for that custom project build I had since I was a teen.
Too young for the Dyna, too old for the livewire.
That's awesome great choice
I traded in my Sporty last year & asked myself the same question. A few hp/tq aren't noticeable, it came down to aftermarket support, build quality, & ease of maintenance. I bought a Dyna- replacing the battery in a Softy is a bee-atch. 4 spark plugs (have to remove the gas tank!) on the M8 too.
Yeah the dyna does have the advantage in those categories
"Old school feel because it's a 2016"....man you made me feel OLD. Newest bike I've had is a 2010. I rode a 67' Ironheed for years....THAT's Old school feel lmao. Great video!
Thanks! I would love to have a 67 ironhead
@@TheMotoJawn yea I’m not complaining. I only ride it to shows at this point. Kickstart only and a rigid frame make for a rough ride hahaha.
I LOVED my 88ci dyna.
But yeah i'm on team softail now all the way! Although i'm for the sport glide. Bags cruise. And the jump from 88 to 107 is a massive jump anyway.
Thats a good increase for sure.
That 110 twin cam with the 2into1 pipe sounds amazing!
You got that right
Your quote, "Felt more planted on the Softail". What is the difference in seat height if at all? I had a 1989 springer & changed the stock seat (which really had you seating down into the bike) to a Heritage seat & it really changed the center of gravity as far as throwing the bike over from side to side. What could of the seat height have changed, 1-1/2"- 2" ? The Softail feels smoother because it has more counter balancing which some people say takes away HP which you wouldn't notice (IMHO) because of the added displacement. I was thinking one of purchasing the Sporster 1200 models ( cheaper ) for short rides down around the Smokies/Blueridge area but been eyeing up these Street Bob & S models instead.
PS: I also owned a 08 Superglide 96" ci after a 06 Road King. Plenty fast enough & big enough displacement. Add a cam, intake, injectors &, an exhaust & you are all set with plenty enough to lose your driver's licence! Thanks for the review.
Thanks for tuning in enjoy the rides!
Very very cool. This was just what I was looking to see. If I can work out to afford the lowrider S at some point I'll be happy. I did a demo last weekend, was super impressed. Blew my twin cam street glide away. I'll give up that big heavy fairing for sure. However, I'd take a late model Dyna as well if that's in the cards.
Both good options. But that softsil lrs is very impressive.
I rented the softail lowrider s for my very first ride ever and did 200 miles no issue absolutely enjoyed it
Awesome bike 🏍
Easy, Dyna!
A good choice.
Much prefer the cleaner, sleeker look of the M8 over the clunky, heavy twin shocks. M8 is twice the bike the Dyna is.
Keep the sporty for wheelies and stunts, and get the M8 for the long highway rides
I had the 2020 low rider s but missed the dyna platform so bought the dyna low rider s and wish I had done it years ago the dyna has more soul and more grin factor to me 😊 also becoming a great investment now
I love those guys out at Brandywine Harley! And those are some of the best backroads to ride!
Definitely some beautiful roads back there!
I work at Susquehanna HD here in Harrisburg and wanted the new 2021 LRS in midnight crimson so bad. So I talked to my boss and he ended up doing a dealer trade with Brandywine to get my bike. I’ve never been there but damn do I respect and appreciate them for getting me my dream bike.
The Dyna felt like something from the 1800s when I rode it a few years ago. Does the Softail feel closer to a modern motorcycle?
Definitely noticeably smoother and more modern
You can't go wrong with either bike, it always comes down to $. Me, I'd be happy with the 110 Dyna cause it's a great bike & less $. I just can't justify spending 18,000 on a bike but I'm sure that 114 is awesome!
I would also be happy with either! If my bank account allowed it.
The Dyna definitely pleasantly surprised me with how good it is. I’m still a fan and owner of an M8 fxlrs .
I mean, how am I supposed to *not* click on this video?! 🏍 💨 the question we all want answered!
Can I just have them both!?
Dude that 114 is sick. I was very, very pleasantly surprised when I rode the 2021 low rider. Definitely needed a few changes, but an awesome platform to start off with
Such a beast and comfortable too!
I agree 100% on the M8. What kinda changes are you thinking?
@@danielnovak8293 biggest problem I had was the mid controls, they were so high my knees were up higher than the tank. That and the seat. Other than that a basic stage one but that would be just to make it look and sound cooler, honestly haha.
@@WhiskeyChaser Nice set of forward controls would probably take care of that.
@@danielnovak8293 oh yeah that would be the first thing I did, hands down
I just traded my 48 for the softail 117 and really like it so far super fun bike!
I dig the m8 but I do miss my 103 and still love a good evo
Evo is such a classic. Tons of character.
I love the dyna because of the sound and motor shake (rubber mounted). Those two things are a package that you get and M8s will never be able to reach the sound. I had a FXBBS street bob 2021 (new) and sold it one year later for a used dyna low riders s 2017 with 4k miles. Decision to not invest any further into the street bob was made when i was on a biker meetup and even the big guys with cool bikes had the ugly sound. It became clear to me that this is unfixable, otherwise those guys would have done it. I uploaded some sound footage of both bikes if you are interested. A lot of people see it like me. Either they don't care or they agree. You can also check online, for how much dyna low riders sell vs softail low riders. Even though newer and fewer miles, they go away wayy cheaper! But i cannot blame harley. I'm sure those decisions are hugely impacted by emission rules and stuff like that. They harley iron no longer sells in europe, because they could not match emissions with their air cooled evos (I believe). A M8 nowadays can be compared to a honda from a sound perspective, not gonna lie. The sound is in the history books now and probably never comes back.
M8 can get the sounds with the right cam. But still different than the lrs 110
@@TheMotoJawn It can improve it with a cam yes. But the high pitched whiny sound remains, sadly. This is what annoyed me the most. :/
It has to be related to the counter balancers or the cooling I assume, but I have no idea.
“Different Strokes”, I suppose… I have a 2020 FatBoy with a Stage One (Vance & Hines pipes)… it sounds great to me without being too loud and annoying the general public. I’m in love with it.
@@TheMotoJawnyeah put S&S475 cam and check the sound bro ✌️
I love my 2020 low rider s stage 2 with tbr 2 into 1 exhaust tuned
That sounds solid 👌
DYNA all day
Of coarse the dealer rep will say the m8 . He’s gassing up the soft tail. The 2016-17 dyna will smoke the 2020 m8 114. The only reason the 2020 feels more planted is because it’s a balanced engine w solid mounts and inverted front end compared to a rubber mounted engine in the twin cam. The rear monoshock does not make the 2020 handle better. With a couple solid motor mounts on the dyna it will feel just like the m8 in terms of handling.
difference i noticed was the 110 twin cam engine got hot and my low rider s does not get as hot.
Dyna
Heard that the biggest difference is the handling/suspension and brakes along with the M8 is faster.
Yeah i would ould agree with all of those
Imagine having to choose between these two bikes. The Dyna version is the better looking of the two (IMO). It is a shame that Harley did not use the same philosophy in building the M8 version and put a 119 in it. I know you can put a stage 4 through it. But the Lowrider S is meant to have a bit more bite to it than standard Harleys.
Now it does! Comes with the 117 now.
I’d be hard pressed to tell anyone the difference between the 114 and 117 though. I’ve owned both.
Spring for a stage IV. That was a fantastic upgrade.
I live so close to there! That's awesome! I don't know how you can ride those than not wanna trade in the sportster haha, i know deep down that whole ride home you were thinking about it XD
Very hard to get back on the sportster after that lol.
What year is the Low Rider S in this video? I’ve gotta 23 (❤️ it) and I’ve gotta single gauge on the bars. I wish HD had a slightly larger MOTO style race bike fairing for it
The softail is a 2020
I own a Dyna lorider s and a2021 Fatboy 114 on the new softail lorider they put these skinny week bars that look terrable and the bike felt more top heavy then my 110
Using "Sportster" to represent "Evo" . . . You are a newb. Definitely. ✌😎
Soft tail all day 🤘🏽
🔥🔥🔥
M8 any day. Better looking, better suspension, smoother engine and my 117 with TBR Turnout moves. Doesn't need anything, except led signals. And this bike sounds awesome. My old dyna didn't sound much different. What a cruiser is supposed to be and look like.
I agree gimme M8
@@TheMotoJawn yeah!!! And BTW, you have excellent voice over skills. You don't struggle like some.
When they giving you a long time loaner bike? lol “TELL EM JAWN SENT YOU!”
Maybe a Pan Am loaner for a certain camping trip coming up 🤔
@@TheMotoJawn I mean yeah. But they must understand with or without permission, I’m putting my butt on it.
If you ever have to change out the rear suspension, you'll be glad you went with a Dyna trust me on that one.
It's killing me in the UK that a softail LRS with like 3k miles is the same price as a Dyna low rider S with 15k+ miles as I love the Dyna frames
Yeah dynas value seem to be going up
It’s too bad. Because the softail is impressive. Fantastic chassis and amazing engine.
Dyna all day and tomorrow
🏍🤟🏍🤟
I like my 2008 street bob with wide glide front forks and triples twin 6 pot pm front brakes,upgraded fork internals and on the rear wilbers adjustable shocks with 4pot pm brakes.tge 120r twin cam is a vrod killer and the hdoil cooler keeps her healthy while the super meg exhaust let's the world know freedom is alive and well here in Victoria Australia.with 130hp 130trq at the wheel I'm smiles for miles rich.i don't have the same bike as all the rich kids I'm running 21inch front spoked rim and 17inch rear spoked rim wrapped in Avon cobra rubber.well I really like the Dyna low rider s and the Softail low rider s aswell...and so does everyone else so I'm glad I got a bike that will do what they can do if not better but looks a lil different.
Sounds nice 👌
#DynaBros
#sportybros
@@TheMotoJawn #GlideDaddies #DynaBros #SoftyGuys #SportyBois was what my brother designated the lovers of each frame style. We were #SportyBois for a long time!
Dyna! Or maybe I’m biased because I have a ‘17 Low Rider S 😝
If you didn't wheelie did you even ride a dyna? Disappointed in you jawn, that's what the people want to know. Show us how to wheelie on a dyna.
Wheelies are reserved only for the pedal bike.
I generally love the Dyna lows, but in my honest opinion that exhaust just ruins it
Not my favorite exhaust for it.
@@TheMotoJawn agreed, otherwise beautiful bike. Good thing the exhaust is easily fixed
Really ? Thunderheaders are all about performance. The stainless shorty pipes are just an internet fad
I rode a pipe of different bikes. New to older. I chose the 2016 Dyna lowrider s. The m8 just did nothing for me. Reminded me of riding a quad. Sounds like an old yamaha big bear. But, to each his own.
I love brandywine Harley I bought my super glide custom from them
Good stuff love to hear it!
Youl like the M8 til it starts spewing oil into the throttle body and fouling your plugs .
Two great bikes but I'll take my fxlrs everyday. Too each there own but
Stage I is the biggest ‘scam’ of upgrades. It’s all visual and auditory.
Totally worth the upgrade. But there is no performance to be had.
Dyna for ever❤❤
🤟🤟🤟
The Twin Cam is a great engine. It sounds like a real Harley . The M8 sounds like a Honda.
The dyna is better looking in every way idk why Harley discontinued them