@@nataliewestby7696 He had such a horrible time making it and dealing with the editing changes imposed by Paramount that the film just triggers negative emotions in him. Same with David Fincher and ALIEN 3, he was treated so badly on that film that he refused to even look at the restoration of the original cut, so they had to call it "The Assembly Cut" instead of the "Directors Cut".
@@Len1977gt I so miss that 80s atmosphere that specific films such as Blade Runner, Aliens, Fright Night, Return of the Living Dead... even children’s films like Labyrinth had it.
I'll never forget seeing it in the theater! The zoom out ended with the soldier's lighted window in the -far upper corner_ of the screen. And normal human size! It felt like _we were in a pit!_. Looking up at a tiny Window. We were Molosar for a few seconds.
The juxtapositions in this film are so sublime. The so 80s score by Tangerine dream, the WW2 setting, and the eeriness of the ancient cryptic spooky stuff. I love this movie
@@Boti98HUN In the book version, Lutz is one of the re-animated cadavers that attack their former comrades. What makes it even more distrurbing, is that his corpse is headless. He was Molassar/Rassalom's first victim.
This scene alone was what left an indelible impression on my mind when I first watched this movie alone, late at night, back on like Ch.13 television. Since then, I've never met anybody else who had seen it, when I'd remember 'The Keep'. Then I was looking for some new synth-wave tracks for my playlist here on You Tube, and someone recommended a Tangerine Dream song...I was so excited to see this film again!! 😊
Music and Cinematic in this film is epic.. The story is stronger in the novel. But even flawed this film has something that continues to speak to me...
Commanding Judge, Dredd This is a just a snippet from Tangerine Dream’s “Logos Live” album. It’s a section of Part I called Logos Blue” to be exact. Enjoy.
Exactly! That is a combination of Mr Mann's imagination and early 1980s atmospheric design. The whole movie has an almost dreamy, ambient production design.
One of my favourite Christmas films. Its not got anything at all to do with Christmas and yet in the UK it used to be shown around Christmas time, normally late Christmas eve, early Christmas morning.
@greene1100 as of this post there are no plans to release a DVD from Paramount. Only things available are the VHS and the Laserdisc. If you want something more visual than the original book, WIlson also adapted it into a graphic novel.
@cosmicdingo He's not actually a golem. That's simply what they believe it to be. Molasar is actually an ancient champion of the evil force from Wilson's books. He's imbued with the evil's power, and shows up quite often.
Saw the uncut version of this on VHS back in '84, the locals didn't speak English and were subtitled, and Molasar's lair was featured at the finale. Mann wants nothing to do with this film sadly, so I doubt I'll ever see that vers again.
I never knew the evil entity was named Molasar. Backwards, it sounds like the Jewish word for "blessing" - Rasalom/Rashalom. Gotta get this movie on dvd! One of the best for soundtracks and stories!
what an awesome movie man, its too bad this movie never got any more popular. The whole look and feel of the movie combined with the kick ass Tangerine Dream soundtrack makes this movie f-cking sweet. 2 questions, does anybody know if this will EVER come out on DVD? And where can I get the soundtrack to this ??
@Len1977gt There is talk that mann has repossession of the movie, and the full (uncut) version is on the cards for DVD. Saw this back in the eighties and just loved it!
This sort of reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode The Howling Man where the Devil has been caged and must try to deceive someone into letting him out so he can be unleashed onto the world.
In the book by F. Paul Wilson, Molasar is an ancient evil sorcerer held in a mystical prison. Whatever he is, they make it pretty clear in the movie that he's not about avenging anyone, he's just using the professor to get free (and once he does, he'll be doing lots of Very Bad Things, to everyone, Jews included...)
You can tell he was playing that holocaust professor. When he met him, the latter thought he was some kind of Deity designed to avenge those that died in the holocaust. Rasalom, just simply rolled with it, though he did sound kinda disgusted that the people he was slaughtering killed over views rather than something practical like power.
Hi!, read it online recently, can't remember where though. I do remember that a complete version was screened at some event, and that he (Mann) had got his hands back on the film and a DVD will be released in the near future.
@@cretinousjester3475 That's what Rasalom wants to pull the world back into an endless "night." H would much rather have humanity kill one another than him do the killing.
Has anyone read the book, by F. Paul Wilson? The Keep was a book before it was a movie, and it was very good. I read it twice, back to back. It's actually part of a series but I haven't read any of the six other titles in it. I read it AFTER seeing the movie. If I would have done it the other way around, I probably wouldn't have like the film lol. I can't recall all the differences now - it's been years since I compared them - but they changed the ending of the film. This is common, film adaptations often depart from the novel, but you really get cheated in the movie. The final confrontation was pretty disappointing. I imagine that Mann wasn't given enough of a budget to recreate it. It would have been interesting to see what he would have done with more money. Regardless of all that, The Keep is one of my favorite movies. It's style and visuals totally sucked me in. Plus, TD's soundtrack is amazing!
Mann read the book but didn't like it, which is why he altered things, stupidly in my belief. His budget initially was high, but he went way over budget. There was supposed to be a bit more of a fight scene at the end, but the effects co-ordinator died so they went with the simplified version. On the books, there's actually more than six as the follow ups include the excellent Repairman Jack series, the first book featuring him being The Tomb. They're all well worth reading, in my opinion.
the next level of peter pan types...stories thereof...eg.,.peter pan the changeling of Jumanji....man with mask is the boy with mask...is just previous peter pan type stories....the changeling is something of a quantum leap...to many peter pan types...what is your fan-made peter pan stories...stranger yet...hey,hey...
Bobby Neal...cos Michael Mann wont let them. Maybe because they fucked around with the final edit or he just wants it erased from history...if its the latter then he needs to re evaluate...this is the same man who coiled out Miami Vice.
@DetroitLove4U Can't get the exact score from this film mate, lots of copyright shit to do with tangerine dream. Dont buy the cd because none of the music is in the actual film
I know it's fiction but I wonder how an entity without corporeal form still manages to rip that guy in half, lore-wise. Either way, disturbing as hell. I wonder how people with claustrofobia handle that scene lol
In the book, Molasar could take corporeal form whenever he wanted without needing to rebuild himself gradually, but he also had telekinetic powers. I really like the movie in its own way, but it changed some things without considering how they would impact other elements. Maybe the cut final fight would have revealed Molasar's telekinesis too, who knows.
F. Paul Wilson (the man who actually wrote THE KEEP) actually hated this movie. In the books Molasar (actually Rasalom) was NOT black. He was a pale, tall, sorcerer with thin wisps of black hair.
I like the movie. But Mann and some of the actors should start a remake, with Mann as director and sole executive producer. Perhaps Tangerine could be reenlisted to make the soundtrack again. 80s nostalgia is all the rage, right now.
Be great to see what a low budget fan film company could do with The Keep. I see there was also a graphic novel that came out a good few years ago, but I was not impressed by the artwork.
No way, he killed them to gain strength becuase they were convenient, but he lives off of human suffering and the nazis provided plenty of that for him to sup on.
OK, I want Hollywood to do a remake of this - with contemporary special effects and more capable actors. But, I know if they did this, it would be terrible, because all remakes are terrible these days.
Perhaps I meant to say, "SOME more capable actors..." Even if they did this, it would still be terrible. The fact is that we (the audience) can spot CGI special effects so easily that the movies loose much more than they gain from CGI.
i think this is one that should be left alone - maybe a sequel like theyre doing w/ Blade Runner....but the music and the atmosphere of these early 80s movies cant be replicated
Talk about a movie that's crying out for a remake -- and one that much more closely follows the great novel by F. Paul Wilson. This is such crap. Even accepting you can't replicate the whole novel -- so many missed opportunities even for a 90 minute film, so many pointless and inferior changes, so much incoherence.
I think the creature was a Golem, thought to avenge Jews who were murdered ,or a "wrongful death" There was one in The X-Files, in a season 4 ep, called "Kaddish".
No he wasn't a Golem but wanted to be perceived as such as deception. His real intent was to escape the Keep to spread evil and rule the world. In the novel, both Molassar and Glaeken are revealed to be survivors from an ancient "First Age", a pre-Adamic race.
blackpeter70 Probably not. Any religious connection (Old and New Testament) was probably all wrong. These supernatural beings existed in a time that preceded man's religions (all of them). Molasar/Rasalom (spelled backwards) was Evil, I suppose Glaeken was the Arch-angel Michael, or Gabriel. Dark vs Light. I think the use of religious interpretations means we're going to get it all wrong. Who really knows? Molasar wanted out---by ANY means necessary, even if it meant pandering. If the Creature was about avenging Jews, why was he "kept" in by a priest? Was one religion more powerful that it could subdue the other with its icons? Note that the walls were ringed by keyed crucifixes. Did these REALLY work? If that place were a synagogue, or mosque would the devil have free reign, and couldn't be Kept? Apparently the nazi officer had seen too many Bela Lugosi movies (1931) and Nosferatu (1922) and thought he would be saved by the sign of the cross. That theory was taken in hand, crumbled, and dropped to the floor. It was some kind of talisman-with no known religious affiliation that seemed to be all powerful. The old man was Jewish, but it was more likely that his ability to interpret the writings and understand them rather than his Jewishness that made him so useful, and trustworthy. He wasn't in league with the devil who restored him to health, though some will interpret it that way. He was a scholar. When the Rosetta Stone was deciphered it was more about scholarship than it was a religious endeavor. He apparently was more useful to Molasar than marauding nazis. It seem like bad timing for old Molasar. What could he have possibly done that was worse than what was already going on out there at that time? What was Hitler's body count at that time- 15-20 million dead? Molasar's score was about 15-20. One of the best features of this surreal movie (for me) was that our religious beliefs were just all wrong. There was no "right" religion that was going to protect you, but rather some unknown force that didn't require your prayers, or your worship to protect you. Thank you, Scott Glenn for saving us.
Del Stanley Wow. I had no idea ( because I'm an idiot) about the meaning of the names Glaeken and Molasar. The Keep is such a literate film, it's no wonder the cineplex cattle didn't like it(did they have cineplexes,then? I don't think so, but anyway...), and even "learned" film critics backed away from it, some in boredom, but most in utter confusion. I was 14 when I first saw it on VHS (Hah!), because Fangoria gave it a huge thumbs up. But who was this newbie Michael Mann, anyway? No one could have imagined the next year everyone would all be unshaven, wearing no socks, and practicing the phrase, "Freeze! Miami Viiice!" Love the film, love the filmmaker. Thanks so much for such an insightful, logical response. It's going to make my joy of the film even more so, now. Cheers!
After reading ( and loving) the F. Paul Wilson book, I was really looking forward to this film adaptation. Mann, was I Disappointed . This movie, sucks Ass.
@@jeffreysalzman1497 most two hour movies can never rival the books I guess. I preferred the movie because the books for me at the end of the day were a vampire story.
@@Alvin-1138 If you think this is a vampire story then you can't have read the books. Rasalom is certainly not a vampire, he only pretends to be to placate the human characters in this book.
@@jeffreysalzman1497I didnt say I think this is a vampire story. I said at the "end of the day." No he's not a literal blood drinking vampire. Ok? But he reanimates the dead, he drains energy/lifeforce from the living to increase power, & lifespan? He controls their minds, and compels them to do his bidding. He's pale , gaunt etc The books are good so please don't feel I'm badmouting them. But also don't deny there's a _ton of parallels,_ to Vampire lore!?!
I want the director's cut! Michael Mann should totally release it!
I wish he would too. Instead, he avoids talking about this movie like the plague.
@@kevinh8736 I know! I would be proud of it if I were him.
Michael Mann avoids this movie. I wish a good copy would be released on DVD. I saw it in the theater in 1983. I was really hooked by it
@@nataliewestby7696 He had such a horrible time making it and dealing with the editing changes imposed by Paramount that the film just triggers negative emotions in him. Same with David Fincher and ALIEN 3, he was treated so badly on that film that he refused to even look at the restoration of the original cut, so they had to call it "The Assembly Cut" instead of the "Directors Cut".
The ponchos give it the perfect moths to a flame vibe.
@ 2:56 The visual of the soldier walking slow motion into the light with this music was incredible!
Best part for me musically in the whole film
reminded me of Batman lol
@@teletranoats7491 especially when he dragged poor Otto along with him. All I heard was the Batman Forever theme
@@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841 bingo
That long shot of the inside of the cave is endlessly atmospheric.
Exactly! That is a combination of Mr Mann's imagination and early 1980s atmospheric design and imagery.
@@Len1977gt I so miss that 80s atmosphere that specific films such as Blade Runner, Aliens, Fright Night, Return of the Living Dead... even children’s films like Labyrinth had it.
I think it's one of the greatest shots in all horror cinema, along with the slow extended take in DEATH LINE.
I'll never forget seeing it in the theater!
The zoom out ended with the soldier's lighted window in the -far upper corner_ of the screen. And normal human size! It felt like _we were in a pit!_. Looking up at a tiny Window. We were Molosar for a few seconds.
Imagine seeing that in the pictures in 83.
Iconic scene, in my top 10 of all time despite the flaws of the film.
The juxtapositions in this film are so sublime. The so 80s score by Tangerine dream, the WW2 setting, and the eeriness of the ancient cryptic spooky stuff. I love this movie
I regret selling my Laserdisc Player and this disc! It never occurred to me that the Movie would never come out on DVD. 😪
I know this is late but you can buy the DVD on ebay. It's full quality from Australia, none of that faded crap that was out out in the US.
Wow. I remember seeing this scene when I was really little and feeling absolutely terrified. I've wondered my whole life what it was from until now.
Same
Atmosphere ist brutaall😬🙏 tangerine dream 🎉macht die atmosphere auf num 1. Best moment of the film...
My brother once put this on once, this is what I remember seeing. I always wondered what movie this was for years. Glad I found it.
Soundtrack by Tangerine Dream who capture the mood and atmosphere of this gothic horror classic brilliantly.
I absolutely love that soundtrack
For the love of God put this on DVD
Over Micheal Mann's dead body.
I remember renting it at Blockbuster
@@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841 it's on DVD thanks to Australia.
Just put it on Netflix and Apple
@@jrmetmoi It was on Netflix once upon a time. That is when I first saw it after seeing in on video store shelves for years.
I love this movie so much I got and read the book. I can’t wait to read the rest of the adversary cycle.
I use to watch this movie every chance I got when it airing on HBO in the early 80's.
I first saw this film when I was, I think, nine or ten, and this is the part that I remember the most: the soldier being killed by his own greed.
On the bright side, Private Hans Lutz didn't have to worry about guard duty for the rest of that week.
But came back as something much much worse.
@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 Ah, the novel version of poor Lutz.
@@drakashrakenburgproduction5369what happened to him?
@@Boti98HUN In the book version, Lutz is one of the re-animated cadavers that attack their former comrades. What makes it even more distrurbing, is that his corpse is headless. He was Molassar/Rassalom's first victim.
one of my favorite atmospheric movies along with Prince of Darkness
This scene alone was what left an indelible impression on my mind when I first watched this movie alone, late at night, back on like Ch.13 television. Since then, I've never met anybody else who had seen it, when I'd remember 'The Keep'. Then I was looking for some new synth-wave tracks for my playlist here on You Tube, and someone recommended a Tangerine Dream song...I was so excited to see this film again!! 😊
Music and Cinematic in this film is epic..
The story is stronger in the novel. But even flawed this film has something that continues to speak to me...
Love The Music To This Scene
Such a pity it's not available to buy.
Commanding Judge, Dredd This is a just a snippet from Tangerine Dream’s “Logos Live” album. It’s a section of Part I called Logos Blue” to be exact. Enjoy.
The synthesizer and the drums made the scene all that much better.
@@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841 bootlegs only ..
Let’s just appreciate this gem for what it is & know a remake won’t hit the same
Never read the book, but some of the scenes in this movie are downright amazing. As is the music.
Exactly! That is a combination of Mr Mann's imagination and early 1980s atmospheric design. The whole movie has an almost dreamy, ambient production design.
One of my favourite Christmas films. Its not got anything at all to do with Christmas and yet in the UK it used to be shown around Christmas time, normally late Christmas eve, early Christmas morning.
one of the best scenes in the movie
Love Michael Mann's style he is in the same league as Dario Argento, John Carpenter etc....
My uncle lived nereby the quarry they filmed in. Told me all the local lads were dying their hair blonde to get a shot at being Extras.
was it north wales
@@lesliefox9800 Yep...Llanberis.
Lol
Must have been hell in there for this soldier to take.
I love the music in this. It doesn't fit-you would expect something more operatic- but that makes it so much more alien feeling.
@greene1100
as of this post there are no plans to release a DVD from Paramount. Only things available are the VHS and the Laserdisc. If you want something more visual than the original book, WIlson also adapted it into a graphic novel.
FOR ME IS THE BEST SCENE FOR THE KEEP
Guillermo del Toro needs to remake this.
I see it more as a DAVID LYNCH prospect.
No
Or Panos Cosmatos.
Yes
A remakes just been announced
"Request immediate relocation...something is murdering my men"
@cosmicdingo He's not actually a golem. That's simply what they believe it to be. Molasar is actually an ancient champion of the evil force from Wilson's books. He's imbued with the evil's power, and shows up quite often.
In Wilson's novels, he is called the Adversary!!
Saw the uncut version of this on VHS back in '84, the locals didn't speak English and were subtitled, and Molasar's lair was featured at the finale. Mann wants nothing to do with this film sadly, so I doubt I'll ever see that vers again.
If you find a source lmk so we can watch the OG uncut one
@@Oi325 He's lying, no uncut version was ever released. People make up stories like that all over the Internet.
I never knew the evil entity was named Molasar. Backwards, it sounds like the Jewish word for "blessing" - Rasalom/Rashalom. Gotta get this movie on dvd! One of the best for soundtracks and stories!
It also sounds like Rassilon from Doctor Who 😎👍 (perhaps his original form!? 😈🤔😱😅)
Rasalom is his real name in the book.
what an awesome movie man, its too bad this movie never got any more popular. The whole look and feel of the movie combined with the kick ass Tangerine Dream soundtrack makes this movie f-cking sweet.
2 questions, does anybody know if this will EVER come out on DVD?
And where can I get the soundtrack to this ??
Awesome Movie and Sound Track,,, which you can get here on TH-cam...
I got it on dvd from Amazon maybe two years ago
In my top 10 movies. And I have lived a long time and seen many.
@Borgarborgen The visual quality of this clip is pretty good, considering this never saw the light of day on DVD or beyond. What is the source?
Is it laserdisc
last time the nazis pulled a block out of a wall they found the Tesseract, here they unleash a cool looking monster
@Len1977gt There is talk that mann has repossession of the movie, and the full (uncut) version is on the cards for DVD. Saw this back in the eighties and just loved it!
That'll be a no then.
I love this movie
This is available to stream online on Netflix.
This movie sure is popping up a lot lately... Is it good? I can't find any service that has it in their catalog to watch...
pirate it, easy to do..
DONT TOUCH THE CROSSES!!!!!! EVER.
Kevin Pippin...if i said it wasn't going to end well it would be a huge understatement.
@@philmellor4885 It's enough to make you lose your head (in the book version, anyway)
This sort of reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode The Howling Man where the Devil has been caged and must try to deceive someone into letting him out so he can be unleashed onto the world.
UNDER-RATED movie. It has flaws, but I still like it.
In the book by F. Paul Wilson, Molasar is an ancient evil sorcerer held in a mystical prison. Whatever he is, they make it pretty clear in the movie that he's not about avenging anyone, he's just using the professor to get free (and once he does, he'll be doing lots of Very Bad Things, to everyone, Jews included...)
He comes back in the sequel Reborn and Reprisal
THere isn't a sequel to this film.
You can tell he was playing that holocaust professor. When he met him, the latter thought he was some kind of Deity designed to avenge those that died in the holocaust. Rasalom, just simply rolled with it, though he did sound kinda disgusted that the people he was slaughtering killed over views rather than something practical like power.
@@Retro-Future-Land He was referring to the series of books
@@KnowYoutheDukeofArgyll1841 I was referring to the film not having a sequel.
This scean was what I remember from the movie
scene
Awesome movie
Pure Silver.. my favorite of the soundtrack.
Hi!, read it online recently, can't remember where though. I do remember that a complete version was screened at some event, and that he (Mann) had got his hands back on the film and a DVD will be released in the near future.
And...maybe not.
@@philmellor4885 People love to make shit up on the Internet. "Read it online recently" 😂
2 people thought they were ready to be rich, unfortunately Molasar had other ideas...
He found them QUITE rich...it took awhile for him to need to feed again.
Rich., from silver?
Apocalypse didn't escape., he just went from the basement to first floor..
great Movie
This movie is deep. This is what greed does to you.
Greed, anger, ambition, etc. It hits a lot of issues.
@@cretinousjester3475 That's what Rasalom wants to pull the world back into an endless "night." H would much rather have humanity kill one another than him do the killing.
I've always wanted the EXACT movie version score starting at 1:19. Borgarborgen can you assist me with this matter???
Is there a dvd yet anyone?
8 people have fallen asleep on watch 🙄
The ninth one who joined them, lost his head looking for silver crosses.
Best movie cene
CREDITS:
TM & © Paramount (1983)
Cast:
Director: Michael Mann
Producer: Gene Kìrkwood, Howard W. Koch, Jr., F. Paul Wilson
Screenwriter: Michael Mann
@greene1100 There are bootlegs from laserdisc on Ebay.
Has anyone read the book, by F. Paul Wilson? The Keep was a book before it was a movie, and it was very good. I read it twice, back to back. It's actually part of a series but I haven't read any of the six other titles in it.
I read it AFTER seeing the movie. If I would have done it the other way around, I probably wouldn't have like the film lol. I can't recall all the differences now - it's been years since I compared them - but they changed the ending of the film. This is common, film adaptations often depart from the novel, but you really get cheated in the movie. The final confrontation was pretty disappointing.
I imagine that Mann wasn't given enough of a budget to recreate it. It would have been interesting to see what he would have done with more money.
Regardless of all that, The Keep is one of my favorite movies. It's style and visuals totally sucked me in. Plus, TD's soundtrack is amazing!
Mann read the book but didn't like it, which is why he altered things, stupidly in my belief. His budget initially was high, but he went way over budget. There was supposed to be a bit more of a fight scene at the end, but the effects co-ordinator died so they went with the simplified version.
On the books, there's actually more than six as the follow ups include the excellent Repairman Jack series, the first book featuring him being The Tomb. They're all well worth reading, in my opinion.
@Len1977gt sorry so far there are no plans to release it in dvd
I wish they would remake this into another horror movie with spine chilling scenes.
Are you kidding. The people they would hire would make it worse.
the next level of peter pan types...stories thereof...eg.,.peter pan the changeling of Jumanji....man with mask is the boy with mask...is just previous peter pan type stories....the changeling is something of a quantum leap...to many peter pan types...what is your fan-made peter pan stories...stranger yet...hey,hey...
When will this film finally be on DVD or Blue Ray??
Bobby Neal...cos Michael Mann wont let them. Maybe because they fucked around with the final edit or he just wants it erased from history...if its the latter then he needs to re evaluate...this is the same man who coiled out Miami Vice.
just love this film power like that could sort this shit world out proper
@DetroitLove4U Can't get the exact score from this film mate, lots of copyright shit to do with tangerine dream. Dont buy the cd because none of the music is in the actual film
Do you have the clip where he talks to Ian McKellen?
@ borgarborgen these images seem to be digitalized ?
Tangerine Dream did the soundtrack...
was "Molasar" an alternate title for another track from the 1983 OST? maybe i'm imagining that
just a quick one the german troops never sported the tri colour on their helmets during the war
@TheIntruders Wait... no. That tense makes perfect sense. "This never got any more popular."
What's the name of that song??
It's "Logos, Pt. I" by Tangerine Dream
I know it's fiction but I wonder how an entity without corporeal form still manages to rip that guy in half, lore-wise.
Either way, disturbing as hell. I wonder how people with claustrofobia handle that scene lol
He absorbed his life force till he was a husk
He can kill folk in the most gruesome of ways with his power alone than just using his physical strength.
In the book, Molasar could take corporeal form whenever he wanted without needing to rebuild himself gradually, but he also had telekinetic powers. I really like the movie in its own way, but it changed some things without considering how they would impact other elements. Maybe the cut final fight would have revealed Molasar's telekinesis too, who knows.
F. Paul Wilson (the man who actually wrote THE KEEP) actually hated this movie. In the books Molasar (actually Rasalom) was NOT black. He was a pale, tall, sorcerer with thin wisps of black hair.
Generic vampire... This is way more interesting and graphically evolves.
I like the movie. But Mann and some of the actors should start a remake, with Mann as director and sole executive producer. Perhaps Tangerine could be reenlisted to make the soundtrack again. 80s nostalgia is all the rage, right now.
Be great to see what a low budget fan film company could do with The Keep. I see there was also a graphic novel that came out a good few years ago, but I was not impressed by the artwork.
State of mind
Never touch the crosses......Never.
LA MUSIQUE PRédomine beaucoup trop l'action
6:58 Epic
The monster is some vacuum cleaner hoses, a couple of flashlights and a smoke-machine...
How dare you.
True, and that shows you. With a little ingenuity, and sticking to easy ideas.
@@userinterfaces3600 practical effects seem to always outdo the CGI
Do u guys think Molasar would stayed true to his word and destroyed the nazis?
Rasalom / Molasar discovered how to live by consuming life, so... yes.
The Nazis, and a lot more.
No way, he killed them to gain strength becuase they were convenient, but he lives off of human suffering and the nazis provided plenty of that for him to sup on.
the VASTNESS of EVIL!!
OK, I want Hollywood to do a remake of this - with contemporary special effects and more capable actors. But, I know if they did this, it would be terrible, because all remakes are terrible these days.
WarBerJr02 This a classic.No remake of it.
WarBerJr02 more capable than Gabriel Byrne,Scott Glenn, Ian McKellen, Alberta Watson, Jürgen Prochnow? youve got to be kidding.....
Perhaps I meant to say, "SOME more capable actors..." Even if they did this, it would still be terrible. The fact is that we (the audience) can spot CGI special effects so easily that the movies loose much more than they gain from CGI.
WarBerJr02 Agreed.And political correctness added to it.
i think this is one that should be left alone - maybe a sequel like theyre doing w/ Blade Runner....but the music and the atmosphere of these early 80s movies cant be replicated
Talk about a movie that's crying out for a remake -- and one that much more closely follows the great novel by F. Paul Wilson. This is such crap. Even accepting you can't replicate the whole novel -- so many missed opportunities even for a 90 minute film, so many pointless and inferior changes, so much incoherence.
i agree
Book is great. But films usually butcher them. Still a good flick.
BigTexGent Yeah the movie was orginally 3 hours long.
Thought the book was very average.
But the music choice was spot on.
Mosalr rocks
terrifiant !
St. Nick Ill...
love all kinds Of Evil!!
I think the creature was a Golem, thought to avenge Jews who were murdered ,or a "wrongful death" There was one in The X-Files, in a season 4 ep, called "Kaddish".
No he wasn't a Golem but wanted to be perceived as such as deception. His real intent was to escape the Keep to spread evil and rule the world. In the novel, both Molassar and Glaeken are revealed to be survivors from an ancient "First Age", a pre-Adamic race.
blackpeter70 Probably not. Any religious connection (Old and New Testament) was probably all wrong. These supernatural beings existed in a time that preceded man's religions (all of them). Molasar/Rasalom (spelled backwards) was Evil, I suppose Glaeken was the Arch-angel Michael, or Gabriel. Dark vs Light. I think the use of religious interpretations means we're going to get it all wrong. Who really knows? Molasar wanted out---by ANY means necessary, even if it meant pandering. If the Creature was about avenging Jews, why was he "kept" in by a priest? Was one religion more powerful that it could subdue the other with its icons? Note that the walls were ringed by keyed crucifixes. Did these REALLY work? If that place were a synagogue, or mosque would the devil have free reign, and couldn't be Kept? Apparently the nazi officer had seen too many Bela Lugosi movies (1931) and Nosferatu (1922) and thought he would be saved by the sign of the cross. That theory was taken in hand, crumbled, and dropped to the floor. It was some kind of talisman-with no known religious affiliation that seemed to be all powerful. The old man was Jewish, but it was more likely that his ability to interpret the writings and understand them rather than his Jewishness that made him so useful, and trustworthy. He wasn't in league with the devil who restored him to health, though some will interpret it that way. He was a scholar. When the Rosetta Stone was deciphered it was more about scholarship than it was a religious endeavor. He apparently was more useful to Molasar than marauding nazis. It seem like bad timing for old Molasar. What could he have possibly done that was worse than what was already going on out there at that time? What was Hitler's body count at that time- 15-20 million dead? Molasar's score was about 15-20. One of the best features of this surreal movie (for me) was that our religious beliefs were just all wrong. There was no "right" religion that was going to protect you, but rather some unknown force that didn't require your prayers, or your worship to protect you. Thank you, Scott Glenn for saving us.
Del Stanley Wow. I had no idea ( because I'm an idiot) about the meaning of the names Glaeken and Molasar. The Keep is such a literate film, it's no wonder the cineplex cattle didn't like it(did they have cineplexes,then? I don't think so, but anyway...), and even "learned" film critics backed away from it, some in boredom, but most in utter confusion. I was 14 when I first saw it on VHS (Hah!), because Fangoria gave it a huge thumbs up. But who was this newbie Michael Mann, anyway? No one could have imagined the next year everyone would all be unshaven, wearing no socks, and practicing the phrase, "Freeze! Miami Viiice!" Love the film, love the filmmaker. Thanks so much for such an insightful, logical response. It's going to make my joy of the film even more so, now. Cheers!
It is an uber-Golem but written as quite sentient and wishing ill upon Europeans, plus any Jews that get in the way.
@@blackpeter70 Dont recall this getting a cine release in the UK. First I saw of this flick was in a video store shelf.
More silver!!!
"Silver"? No, Greed...
Real zeltbahn action !
Great thumb on shitty audio.
Scary as cherry pies...
If you bite into a stone in those pies it could be scary....
Nothing esoteric here, my friend. It's gude v. ee-vil.
It's a metaphor for atomic weaponry
Surely ripe for a remake with modern CGI ......
After reading ( and loving) the F. Paul Wilson book, I was really looking forward to this film adaptation. Mann, was I Disappointed . This movie, sucks Ass.
In what way was it a let-down?
@@Retro-Future-Land If you read the very excellent book (and the many others that explain Wilson's universe) you will see why.
@@jeffreysalzman1497 most two hour movies can never rival the books I guess. I preferred the movie because the books for me at the end of the day were a vampire story.
@@Alvin-1138 If you think this is a vampire story then you can't have read the books. Rasalom is certainly not a vampire, he only pretends to be to placate the human characters in this book.
@@jeffreysalzman1497I didnt say I think this is a vampire story.
I said at the "end of the day." No he's not a literal blood drinking vampire. Ok?
But he reanimates the dead, he drains energy/lifeforce from the living to increase power, & lifespan? He controls their minds, and compels them to do his bidding. He's pale , gaunt etc
The books are good so please don't feel I'm badmouting them. But also don't deny there's a _ton of parallels,_ to Vampire lore!?!