I like the fact that the big boss of the Germanic army wasn't killed in a dramatic, overly choreographed one on one duel with Maximus. He was just unceremoniously overwhelmed by a bunch of regular soldiers and turned into a human pin cushion.
It pretty much shows even if one's a leader, you shouldn't fight alone no matter how good you are. That right there is that leader's hubris for having a little too much individual pride.
Its impressive made, but has nothing to do with ancient warfare. Germanic warriors did rarely attack fortified roman position mounted with catapults to get slaughtered. In the given situation the germanic warriors would have just retreatet, to force the romans to leave thier walls and catapult positions like Arminius or Kniva did in Teutoburg forest battle or the battle of Abrittus. Germanic warfare was about speed and guerilla tactics, its madness to attack roman soldiers who are heavier armoured in a fortified position.
@D okay got ya. I agree that gladiator was epic and in my opinion one of the greatest movies ever. Braveheart was damn good as far as movies go, albeit inaccurate as hell. Troy, at least for me was just MEH
@D Funny how two of the three best battle scenes I ever seen in a movie were from movies which were not even war movies. Ie: Ambush scene from Forrest Gump and this opening scene from Gladiator. The third being an actual war movie was the invasion of Normandy in Saving Private Ryan
While I'm not sure of the history, isn't the concept of Hell a Judeo-Christian thing? It shows up in "300" which took place over 400 years before Christ.
@@arbiter8246 Roman paganism (ancient Greece's gods with different name). Fun fact: planets of our solar system are called after Romans's gods. Edit: Romans's hell was the Hades as Greeks.
I had the great honor to meet Charlie Allan (the leader of the german horde) at a medievil fetival in Hamburg Germany. He was performing there with his band Saor Patrol. After the show and a few beers he gave me a hug und got stuck with his mighty beard in my ringmail. I was disguised as a barbarian at that time. We had a good laugh and whenever the scene with him in Gladiator shows up, I tell everybody: "Hey! This guy got stuck with his beard in my ringmail!" 😂
The value of this movie has increased with every passing year, making this into one of the most genuinely formidable films ever made, cinema on an epic scale. The opening battle scene alone is Oscar worthy material, watching the Roman cavalry charge, gives one the goosebumps!
The 2 shots of his dog though very brief also help capture the moment, running just ahead of the horses, and the big bite near the end , no need to show the other 5 take downs
Cavalry charge in the woods is a utterly unrealistic move though. The entire battle is riddled with tactics that were not used by the Roman army... Maybe it has something to do with not deserving an Oscar
One thing i liked about this scene is that the 'leader' didn't have a 1 on 1 with someone to the death, he got swarmed and stabbed by multiple people. A lot more realistic than, 1 on 1 with everyone standing around watching :P
Still not realistic, the battle immediately descends into utter chaos where fighters are pairing off. The Roman legions would be in formation using their shields as a literal wall that the enemy could not get past.
Yes. I think if this was film was made in 2016, Maximus would just have to have a 1v1 with the big German guy who throws the severed head. Oh no wait, he would also have to be a superhero too.
+IronRooRoo True that. Everything from the armor, to the weaponry to the tactics is so nicely done in this battle its a pity they didn't stay more historically accurate with the formations. It would have great to see units fighting behind a shield wall, testudo maybe.
No, the typical formation was not used in the latter stage of Marcus's war in Germania. He revised the formation into more fractional maneuverable ones to suit the German forests. The traditional block formation was a proven defeat in the earlier stage of the war
I don't think much of this is realistic, you don't use fire arrows and siege engines in a pitch battle and the soldiers did the whole duelling thing that movies always do.
RIP Richard Harris - A truly one-of-a-kind man -- actor, writer, singer, director -- his talents are never-ending! Absolutely appreciated him in Cromwell.
He was also granted a Nobel Prize in Science for discovering time travel, considering the German Shepherd breed didn't even come around until the 1800s.
I love how the camera is just unsteady enough to capture the chaos and confusion of the battle, but not so over the top that you can't tell what's going on. Enhances the scene so much. Legendary movie.
One of the greatest battle scenes from one of the most iconic movies in history. A rue masterpiece of storytelling, action, character development, music and, of course, acting! Well deserving of a number of Oscars.
It's good cinema but it failed to show Roman legion tactics. Roman legionnaires were much more agressive in their tactics. But then again, seeing how bad Napoleon was you shouldn't expect too much historical accuracy.
6:25 I can't believe I've never thought of this before. But the reason why Marcus Aurelius looks so anxious during the battle and relieved when it is over is not because he is worried that they will lose, he is worried that Maximus will die. It is not until he hears Maximus' "Roma victor" that he relaxes.
@@matts2298 I doubt that. It is clear that the Romans will win even before the battle, the entire German army is defeated and routed at 5:00, the fighting has stopped at 6:00 but it is not until Aurelius hears Maximus' voice that he relaxes. His thoughts are far beyond this battle, this war. He is thinking about his legacy, about the future of Rome. Aurelius looks nervous throughout the battle, far more nervous than someone who has spent their life at war should be. The worst thing that could happen to him now is not a defeat, or an additional 3 months or war, but that Maximus dies.
@@Grivian I'm sorry but you just repeated my own argument. First you are talking about this single battle, while the historical context is told even at this movie's beginning. This single campaign is already 12 years old and Marcus Aurelius had to fight them in all his life. He is tired and has learned there just can't be an infinite victory nor peace. But in your second part of your comment you talk about these things yourself so I don't know why you doubt what I've said before. You are making false assumptions with that defeat thing, because it is more than obvious that they are going to win the battle. He is not doubting for a second. He might have cared for Maximus for sure but that gesture is not about Maximus being alive. He is relieved that this single war is over finally. And as I've told he even foreshadows that it's just a beginning of a new one. And yes, after the Western Roman Empire's position had weakened in many aspects indeed it became conqured eventually by germanic tribes.
@@matts2298 I am not, perhaps you didn't read it carefully enough. Obviously he is happy that the war is over. The question is why he completely changes his expression from extreme anxiety to immense relief at 6:25. That the war is over is a relief of course, but does this battle where the outcome is clear warrant such anxiety from a war veteran? I don't think so. It is not a false assumption, this is an analysis of a movie scene, not a mathematical proof lmao. There is no question that Aurelius saw Maximus as the most important man in the empire right now, the one who could restore the republic and make sure that Marcus' contribution to the world was more than just war. Anyone who has watched the movie understands this. Nevertheless you have your interpretation of the scene, I have mine. That such a short scene can have several interpretation just shows what a great movie it is.
@@Grivian Your point is actually true that he had high hopes with Maximus restoring democracy. It is naturally totally a fiction and Marcus Aurelius had no intentions to end caesardom whatsoever with any of his generals in reality, maybe he philosophied about it, I'm not sure honestly. But in movie context he could have feared for Maximus' life for sure. IMHO this was really not the case. Maximus has surely proven at that point that he is one of the most able generals at the time, won countless of battles, also high ranking officials were not so keen on going all-in themselves and die on the battlefield. Ancient Roman warfare resembled regular imperial warfare much more in my opinion compared to middle ages for example where actual noble and royal members were part of the offense as well, where honor and moral required it. Here Maximus leads the cavalry attack himself as a general for sure, which is kind of a cringey cinematic move but clearly works, it shows his characther as a brave leader. But still itt would have been strange that the emperor fears for his life so much when this was just merely a last stronghold in a decade long war. So yes I respect your interpretation that the sign of relief is towards Maximus' survival. Again for me the higher context is emphasized much more in the movie and at that point we do not even know anything of their friendship/teacher-studen or father-son relationship, only about the long struggle the emperor had with warfare while surely it was not because he wanted to like previous conquerors, he only wanted to protect heritage and legacy. Probably wished to do totally other things in his reign being known for a wise philosopher.
1:13 "What we do in life, echoes in eternity." Fun fact: That was a quote from Marcus Aurelius himself. It's a hidden gem to see Maximus say it to his men, as it shows his respect for the Emperor (who at that time was Marcus Aurelius)
I also like how Marcus Aurelius is worried that he might be labeled a tyrant by history when history speaks of him as one of the four good emperors. But he beats himself up too much in the film as he bashes himself for expanding the empire when he didn't expand one mile but only defended what Rome had already conquered.
Bruh I almost just based a point in my college essay on this comment before I realized he didn’t actually say that. Damn it would really help if he had
@sebbspato2 True, but for plot reasons Maximus was refered as spaniard in the movie since he was born in what is today´s Spain altough i must agree that the proper term should have been Iberian.
@@JC-xi9kr Dear J.C., thanks to have answer to my comment! Seems you are very susceptible and nervous, specially considering that my comment about football was for fun. Maybe it was obvious just for smart people, but with you we have an exception! Don't worry, I love talking of history and this is a great opportunity for you to learn something :) Rome was, first of all, a city in Latium, in central Italy. It was founded in 753 b.C. (it's one of the oldest cities in Europe) and it became an empire "only" in 27 b.C.. This means that, for many centuries, Rome was first a city and then a Republic. In that period, the Italic Peninsula was a "melting pot" of many different populations, such as "Veneti" and "Liguri" in the north (ancient populations that gave birth to autonomous civilisations) Greeks in the south, Etruscans in the centre (I'm sure you know the greatness of Etruscans :) ) and many other Italic populations in the centre and in the south, including the Romans. So, first of all, history should teach you that Italic peninsula was one of the richest "meeting point" of civilisations of all human history and not, as you said, "an insignificant country" :) You're also wrong when you said that "Rome was not an ethnic people": surely it was, they had a precise consideration of themselves as a specific population of Italic Peninsula that, after, began to expand :) More than this, let me tell you that Romans had a precise idea of all the lands "at this side of the Alps" and history should teach you this. All the lands of Italic Peninsula were the first lands that composed the first Roman Republic: before the massive expansion all over Europe, Rome became the first power between Italic populations who became, year by year, the heart of Roman civilisation. In fact, Romans called Italic Peninsula (all the lands between the Alps and the bottom of the "Boot") "Italia" and they defined it as "Domina Provinciarum" ("Queen of provinces"), "Rectrix Mundi" ("World's Ruler"), "Omnium Terrarum Parens" ("Mother of all lands"). They considered the Italic Peninsula as the homeland of their civilisation. In fact, with "Lex Plautia Papiria" (89 b.C.) and "Lex Roscia" (49 b.C.) the Roman citizenship was extended by right to all inhabitants of the Peninsula. First Roman legions was totally composed by Italic soldiers and even the Pretorian guard was, in the first centuries of its existence, composed rigorously of Italics. So third error for you, since Italy was not "incidentally situated" in Roman world but, on the contrary, it occupied a prestigious and foundamental place in the formation of Roman's identity :) About this topic, I suggest you to read "Geography" of Strabone, it may help you in understanding what "Italia" meant for Romans :) I read it in ancient Greek (because I studied it for many years, with Latin of course) and I translated it, but, if you didn't study ancient Greek, I'm sure you can find copies in your mother language :) When Rome moved to other European lands, they had a precise idea of differences between "lands at this side of the Alps" and "lands at the other side of the Alps", and this is not my opinion: this is History. Of course, since Rome built an Empire, many other people began to live under Roman civilisation, contributing to enrich the Empire itself. This was the key of Rome's power but, until the end of Western Empire in 476 a.D., "Italia" had a role of prestige and prominence, which differentiated it from every region of the Empire. As I told you, you can read Strabone but also Cassio Dione, Caesar and Velleio Patercolo (just to name a few) if you want to find something about this topic :) I suggest you to read them in Latin and to translate, as I did, but if you don't know Latin don't worry, you can find copies in you mother language :) After falling of Roman Empire (476 a.D. for its Western Part) and during Middle Ages, Barbaric tribes arrived also in Italy and during the centuries lot of other populations contributed to create a "melting pot" in Europe and in Italy (and this is the greatness of European civilisation, that we are all brothers). Do you want to know something interesting? Even after the falling of the Empire, Germanic tribes in Italy maintained administrative power in the hands of Italic officials, because they had administered they own Peninsula for over a thousand years. Of course Europe is a "melting pot" of many different populations, but history should teach you (and I explained to you, also giving you historical references) that the ties between Rome and Italy were so strong that the Romans themselves granted to all Italics to consider themselves as "Romans", and this happened lot of years before the extension of citizenship to the rest of other territories. This means that Italy has the oldest ties with ancient Rome. This is testified, for example, by the fact that Italy is the country with the largest number of Roman ruins. Every modern State all over the world is composed by a large number of different ethnicities, that's for sure. And every State in Europe has collected the Roman legacy, this is clear to everyone who studied. But it should be also clear that the strongest, oldest and deepest heritage of Roman civilisation is in Italy. It's not different, for example, from the fact that England was the homeland of Britons. It was invaded by the Romans, by the Germanic tribes, by the Vikings...and it became a "melting pot". But it does not deprive England of its deeper Celtic origins. Lastly, I also would like to tell you that my "misplaced sense of justified pride" - as you said - is due to the fact that Italy has 55 UNESCO sites (first country in the world with China), that in Italy we have an environmental condition such unique that we have - from Northern Italy to Southern Italy - the largest variety of food products in the world, that we have 7000 species of eatable vegetables (first country in the world), that we have 58000 different animal species (first country in the world), that we have 1200 local vineyards (first country in the world; the second place is occupied by France with 222), that we have 533 olive species (first country in the world; the second country is Spain, with 70), 140 wheat crops varieties (first country in the world; U.S.A. at the second place with 6). We are the country with the biggest biodiversity in the world. We're historically the cruel of Western civilisation (with Greece). We have had poets like Dante and genius like Leonardo. We've had the Renaissance. We've had artists like Michelangelo, Raffaello, Botticelli, Donatello, Canova, Bernini, Verdi, Rossini, Vivaldi, Puccini, Monteverdi, Boccherini and thousands, thousands more. We've had great scholars like Galilei, like Fermi, like Marconi and thousands more, through the ages. Even the Alphabetic characters that you are using was invented in my Peninsula. Still think my pride is misplaced? And you, where are you from? :) Bye P.s.: everyone should be proud of his/her homeland, everyone should be proud and aware of his/her origins, without svalutate the others' one. But this requires a high level of education and I'm afraid you lack it.
marconi marconi..................you mean nikola tesla's wanna be....copy cat.......fraud.........yeah well i will not be so proud about that idiot, i just wanted to point THIS one out only, and yes obviously a kinda hate this asshole. just a personal thing.......
This scene is AMAZING. The music at the end is amazing, when he shouts "Roma Victor", also the emperor gazing him with hopeful eyes at 6:32 but also resigning ones admitting deep inside what he always thought: Maximus is the son he wanted and the one meant to be emperor.
I agree. However, I think he says 'Roma Victa', Latin for essentially Rome victorious. I think this is the case due to him saying Roma, the Latin way of saying Rome. I wish the movie incorporated more Latin into certain scenes. Battle commands in the Colosseum fights would have been great.
The emperor sees himself having a quiet reception . His son and daughter are not even noticed. Maximus on the other hand inspires the army the backbone of Rome . He shouts and the whole army is willing to die for Maximus. It becomes clear who is favored by the gods. Sadly his son is not the one.
I'm from Valencia in Spain, or Valentia how the Romans would have said. I am genetically 79% Iberian, and I find the pre-roman iberian culture and history interesting, but at the same time I am proud that we were part of the Empire. Everything in the past contributes to our identity today.
@zirboman Actually, the Romans lost the decisive battle against the Germanic tribes in the Teutoburg Forest (the Varus Battle). They therefore retreated behind the Limes and made no further attempts to subjugate Germania Magna.
As a teenager I appreciated the aesthetic of this movie. Now as an adult I also recognise that aside from the brilliant cinematics, it also featured 4 of the greatest acting talents tp ever grace the big screen. Harris and Reed are no longer with us, Crowe was at his peak during this time and Phoenix had yet to be fully recognised for his sheer talent as an actor.
I have watched this many times over the years and think this is one of the greatest battle scenes on film. It portrays the chaos of battle and as stated in the comments before this the fact that while a great general Maximus is not a super man and several times in this scene he avoid death with the team work of his fellow soldiers. A Roman military trait of team work and fighting as a whole unit.
It's great movie action material. I also love how they show contrary to most movies with Romans that they also had ballista's and catapults, which they effectively also had. I suppose the only movie/series that actually portrays Roman battlefield tactics accurately is the serie Rome, particularly the scene where drunk Pullo is forced back into the ranks. I suppose it is not as flashy on screen. The dummest portrayal I've seen is Dragon Blade, where the Romans fought Mano a Mano.... yeah no, that were the Germanic tribes that fought that way. Quite effectively I must say coz they destroyed the Roman Falanx and occupied Rome in the early stages. It's of them that the Romans adopted the sword, Gladius, as a 2nd weapon and abandoned the to them proven to be obsolete Greek Falanx.
It is great but the Romans would have kept formation much more in real life instead of single soldier combat. But for some reason Hollywood thinks it is more exciting to see these single fights when Romans really fought in ranks.
Maximus is a great General, shouting out to his troops, reminding them he is right there with them as they charge. Also I love that smile he gives that infantryman in the middle of the battle.
secdeal at least they attacked the flanks and not head on into a army of 100,000 or more that will not stop trying to kill you no matter what feels no pain and will not retreat
@@secdeal That why using a cavalry charge in a forest would be effective. The tribesmen have the forest at theirs back and they believe that the only threat will come from the front. They wouldn't dream of cavalry coming through the forest behind them.
Love the fact that a random infantry soldier bumps into someone (he doesn't know, friend or foe) and turns around and it's THE General fighting right in the thick of it, just as he is. That's my favorite scene from this part.
@@danielcarelli5704 We may start all with the simple fact that romans dont have cavalry and archers in the legion.And this guys with bows and horses are not auxiliaries (support troops) by the look of them :)
@@JosephDeLosSantos-t3m If we only make movies about things we actually witnessed there wouldn't be much left we can watch. And in Gladiator the Romans fought against Germanic tribes not the Gauls.
@@JosephDeLosSantos-t3m shut the fuck up this was not roman fighting style this looks like ww1 idk how they managed to fuck up the fighting style so bad
Why do you try to diminish their sacrifice? You mean that warriors are not allowed to enjoy a glorious death? You think warriors should be depressed and full of rage only?
Totally! Man-if Wars went back to being fought like this?-Face to face-Man to man..!??!.. War would be SO MUCH MORE Re-considered before ever engaging in it so Recklessly.
@@richardmapa2585 What we have today is not even real war. Hundreds of thousands died on both sides in a single engagement during WWI over a few yards of worthless dirt. Now you do not even get 100k casualties in a year. We have already become far less reckless.
at 3:08, when the hammer drops on Hans Zimmermans "The Battle" score, and you hear Maximus's "HOLD THE LINE!" echoing over the thunderous booming of the horses galloping, man that still gives me chills 22 years later
I still remember watching this inside a dolby cinema 20 years back, exiting crestfallen and getting completely absorbed by it for the next couple of days. What an experience it was!
I was 13 when I saw this at the cinema back in 2000. I not ashamed to admit it I balled my eyes out at the ending. I still remember being extremely upset leaving the cinema.
I think why Maximus is such a great character is his virtues and principles as a man. He fights not because he desires to, but because it is his duty to the empire, Rome and the Emperor himself. And he honours his duty but also because he respects his men that he desires to protect them and make sure as many of them return home as he can. And speaking of home, Maximus's true motivation in battle is his wife, son and home. When an axe flies towards him, he feels the slight fear he may never see his family again and fights back with everything he has. He is a loyal General and skilled tactician but at the root of it all, he is a man with a family and a desire stronger than anything to see them again.
Lol his virtues and principles as a man. What bullshit. He’s a (fictitious) general leading an army invading the lands of people who never wanted Roman occupation, slaughtering men who were actually fighting for their wives and children and the land they owned. People have made a habit of glorifying ‘virtuous’ men who were nothing more than violent, land stealing murderers who wrote themselves as heroes of history.
Alex Crow I love the Romans and their history, what made me cry was the war between the Romans and the Germanic tribe in the forest. Armenius betrayed the Romans, he grew up in Rome but he decided to be loyal to the people from his homeland Germany, I can’t stand that guy, he really hurt the Romans. The Romans did nothing wrong, but Armenius had them slaughtered and massacred like cattle!!!
This scene is so incredibly balanced. There’s strength and resolve as well as fear and despair. Then that final shot of the emperor closing his eyes in a sigh of relief gives you the feeling of peace mixed with uncertainty for the future.
Of them all, Marcus Aurelius was the Emporer that truly embodied the power and the responsibility of the position - and actually cared for the men serving under him.
Well, this battle is kinda accurate kinda not. First, they use Calvary and shit correctly. Not a dramatic 1v1 between Maximus and the Germanic General but instead killed by ordinary legionaries. Used fire, especially in a forest. And other stuff
I love that it was just normal Legionnaires that killed the enemy barbarian general. No epic duel, no ridiculous fight scene, just a normal, valiant man being overwhelmed and falling to well-trained and armored enemies.
Still a bit of historical ridiculousness in this scene. The idea that the Romans would use siege warfare weapons on tribes in an open field (who are dressed like they are still in the Stone Age) is just silly.
@@seraphx26 Siege batteries on forest tribes? I don't think so. There's no evidence that catapults and ballistae were ever used in a forest. But do cite some if you know of any.
I always watch this scene for Marcus Aurelius' expression after the end of the battle. You can see he's exhausted, more psychologically than physically. "Another one has been won". Great acting.
Imagine, all your career you are on the Roman frontier, fighting barbarian incursions after barbarian incursions, never stopping in Rome for at least a year, will truly make you look like Marcus Aurelius.
Glad this wasn’t made like the battle of Winterfell...you can actually see the action. Calvary was properly employed for flanking, catapults were behind defensive barriers, and the arrows were actually effective. Edited for grammar.
Normally I’d agree but they were in a forest. Seems like burning the trees and possibly the enemy hiding in them would be a good idea so fire arrows and fire pot artillery in this opening scene makes total sense.
What ? I don’t disagree Hollywood greatly hypes them up but to say they weren’t a real thing is just stupid. Like a two second google search will show you while rare they did exist.
It really doesn't, though. It's a tavern fight. People didn't fight like this. Historical movies have been moving more and more towards representing battles how they really were fought (formations, etc). Gladiator and LOTR just copied the Braveheart battle style, which is kinda dumb and out of place.
Fun film too, but always a film. William Wallace was a lowlander Scot and did not wear a kilt. They wore cloths similar to the English. Then again he would not have resembled a Scot fighting the English wearing a tunic covering a mail-coat in the film. ;)
The last scene always gets me. The first time I watched it I cried, made me feel conscious of the ones who died in the fields of battle in all our history
Me too, I weep silently for the tragedy of human nature, that we dismember each other with swords and missiles and dogs, and when those are spent we pummel each other in the face with rock or fist. It is heart-rending to me 😭
02:15 I remember in cinema the wide angle shot with all the ignited arrows, illuminating the sky, was absolutely mesmerising, on the huge screen, the shot gave goosebumps, amazing sound editing, you had the impression you were there in the shot in the middle of this battle. Even if you listen to youtube to the sound with decent headphones, you can distinguish the many sound layers during the battle. what a scene, crafted to perfection. Still remember seeing it in cinema like it was yesterday... 23 years ago.
That was my experience too. It blew away my campy perceptions of battle pre-gunpowder, and was a totally mesmerizing scene. The scale conveyed in this battle was truly awesome.
If you look closely, you can see a lot of them, both Romans and Barbarians alike, have this grin on their face as if they are playing swordfight like lil kids, which is exactly what acting is. Since these extras are only there to fill a scene as a crowd, they don't need to be particularly skilled... but would it kill them to take it seriously, no matter how fun it might've been, they could have ruined the scene if it was obvious enough to be caught on the first watch in the theaters. How many footage might have gone to waste when they noticed theses during film editing stage.
That famous 3:43 clip. Yeah but look to the far right. Smiling Romans just watching and a barbarian just strolling. He has got a giant arrow in his chest or maybe in his shield.
One of the greatest movies ever. It showed the might of the Roman, yet it took brave soldiers to make it work. The Germanic people were brave to the end, even knowing they were going to die that day. Great story telling, great actors, .
Descendants of those same German soldiers a few hundred years later covered in animal skins and wielding axes and who were well trained by "the Hammer" stood firm in their hollow squares against a very formidable cavalry from south of the border and didn't give an inch, saving Europe and what we now know as European civilization!
I remembered watching this movie for the first time and I was impressed by thr level of chrisma Russell Crowe exudes. Maximus as a leader, I will follow you to the ends of the Earth
This movie was released around 2000/05/19. Do you feel old yet!? I'm in my mid 30's and I still think that this movie is one of the greatest movies I've seen so far!
This battle scene would be great in any context but I think what makes it particularly great is that it's the OPENING scene. Its purpose is to introduce Maximus and the other characters, rather than most big budget battle scenes which are the climax/conclusion of the movie. I think this is the formula to have great scenes like this but to not feel cheesy or cliche or too much plot-armor.
what about greece?? romans did copy paste to 90% of the things greeks did. so you say china invented apple and many other brands like nike adidas phillips....
Wow, first an epic battle scene with great music and then it changes to that slow theme and it becomes more of a commentary of the tragedy and sadness of war. Amazing.
One of the greatest if not the greatest battle scene of its type. It is not just the choreography, but the realism as well. You can sense the professionalism of the Roman Army at that time. How they were meticulously prepared for their battles and their fighting spirit, all of which made the Romans the greatest army in the world. Now, the tribes that fought them at the beginning were not very well organized, but as time passed, they became integral part of the Roman Army, which was caused Rome’s demise.
Its terrible. It starts off promising, but ends awfully. Tight shots, over used slo‐mo, bizarre cuts...don't know what the editors were thinking. By contrast, the coliseum scene was brilliant.
Except for the catapult silliness, no reason they would have so much artillery unless they were engaged in a siege. And the comical depiction of the germanic tribe, which would have also fought in formations, using spear phalanx walls and shields. In fact it is the Roman infantry formations that would have appeared less organized, as they were more flexible and capable of moving around faster/acting independently.
This is bullshit. The "barbarians" were actually quite sophisticated opponents in their own right. Julius Caesar describes them using a testudo in battle against him, for example. Vercingetorix's fabian strategy nearly defeated him. Rome at the time of Gladiator was a diverse empire with soldiers drawn from all around the Mediterranean. If you consider non-Romans to be barbarians, the process was already thoroughly underway without a corresponding decline in military capabilities.
I was so stoked to hear that there is going to be a sequel to this masterpiece film. And yes before any on asks. YES THERE IS GOING TO BE A PART TWO TO THIS FILM!
Idk why, but the shots and the change in music tempo at 2:39 - 3:06 are so so epic to me. The building of tension, the whistling of the arrows, the echoing commands from the lieutenants, the horse charge, and then the shot of Emperor Aurelius at 2:53. All of this is happening because of that man there. And then after the shot of him, it pans to the absolute warfare that such a powerful seat, such as his, is capable. And then this whole clip ends with the look of relief and sadness on Dumbledore’s (😂) face as the battle ends.
Amazing Hans Zimmer and John Williams are GOATS. But man Hans and Ridley Scott made something magical. Russell Crowes improvisation and demeanor was great too. Hes a drunk, but aren't we all? He just keeps it real and more of a simple man. Strength and Honor was a improv by him, lol his high school motto. Rather than your typical DC Politican or Hollywood scumbag that sell their own mothers to advance themselves.
Then you never saw the movie with this same empire against a 2010 US force of 20,000 men with mini guns, helicopters, stealth bombers you name it. They wiped out this Roman army in less than 6 minutes. Seeing the Roman army marching against tanks and 20+ miniguns was laughable and the Romans looked awful and couldn’t advance. It was a movie where the US wanted to test a time machine at this time and sent back an armada.
Except they never did (flaming arty) that except sieges of backward barbarian cities and villages full of thatched and wooden roofs. That's why the Roman really tried to tile all their roofs; that and the rain water they could get.
Yeah, not too accurate. Roman army at its peak had tight, unbreakable square formations with each man on the front fighting no more than 6 minutes after which he was replaced and given some water and rest so that the whole army would be able to fight for hours and hours together without falling apart
YES exactly what I was saying previously..... Dead on. The orderly, synchronized, sequential fighting and front-line replacement tactics are what wore away at brute force and shock tactics from Germanic/Celtic troops. I love this movie, and think there are really good depictions of the soldiers are great.
This whole scene in Gladiator at the start of the film is absolutely fantastic the battle is just amazing and the weapons that the Romans have compared to the German people is just unbelievable arrows spears sorwds and giant fire bombs as well is just incredible and very impressive and I absolutely love the start of the film just brilliant.
@@carlogambacurta548 Probably not; there were lots of such pitched battles against the Gauls but that was earlier. The Germanic wars were mostly the Germans avoiding the Romans until they had mustered enough troops for decent-sized guerilla attack or two, as the Romans retreated (because their supply lines were overstretching). There is very little in Roman sources - far less in fact thgan what we have by now found in the ground. The Romans apparently went to the Göttingen area or even the middle Elbe, there have been a few battlefields that mostly seem Roman rearguard actions, but contemporary sources do not mention those, or only in the most circunstantial terms, so nothing suggests there was any major battle in the woods, let alone a major Roman victory. There certainly was no siege train on the Germania campaigns (there was nothing there to besiege). Idistaviso is the sole major Roman victory we can really be sure about, but that was in the Weser floodplain ("viso" is "meadow). The closest thing to the Gladiator battle (setting, season, weapons) that actually happened was Angrivarian Wall, but Tacitus is really circumspect about this and while the German forces seem to have been beaten off their fort with heavy losses, the Romans did not push further east and didn't even stay in the area, but immediately retreated some 100 miles back to their fortified camps further west. (What the movie does get spot on is the abysmal conditions for fighting Roman style. In reality however, they did prevent such battles. Charging Roman heavy cavalry thru an uncharted forest in the gloom is a really really crap idea, and indeed the evidence for such cavalry ever being present in Germania in numbers is slights. Mostly they hired some German raiders to scout and protect the infantry's flanks on the march. And if you ever take the Autobahn east or northeast from Dortmund, you'll know why the Teutoburg forest is the Teutoburg Jump in Latin: you drive for an hour or so thru the most perfectly level countryside, and then there's a forested "wall" rising suddenly in front of you. Back at that time, it was essentially impenetrable. It's like that from the battle site near Osnabrück all the way down to Paderborn. For all the Romans could tell, there might as well have been dragons behind that. They went around north and south at least once, past the Weser or Fulda, but there were only more forested ranges beyond, and that was that, so they withdrew and did a triumph mainly because this time they hadn't gotten their butts handed on a platter. But nothing of value was to be gained from subduing those lands. Better to sit at the Rhine and trade Celtic knick-knacks errr "only the finest gemsmith wares directly from Lutetia" to the local yokels errr "esteemed discerning customers". And wine. Lots of wine. A people with no access to purebred yeast will drink almost anything that's not outright vinegar. In exchange for blonde or ginger bed- and fighting slaves, which went at a premium. After Augustus, the German frontier was for some 200 years mostly good for improving the Roman trade balance.)
Seen too much slaughter and too much destruction. Unfortunately, it is in the nature of empire that the answer to the question "Is it enough?" is always "no".
@Lord Voldemort well the Yi Ti is based of the Chinese Han Empire, which at its height was greater in expanse than the Roman empire. What's funny is they existed at the same time and they knew about each other albeit vaguely.
@@brianhung6563 the Han sent an envoy to find Rome (they had heard of a mighty empire that was equal to their own, which it should be noted surprised them a lot) and make a trading alliance with them. The envoy reached the edge of the Parthian empire, but turned south instead of west. He was within 40 days march of Rome's eastern provinces but instead went along the Arabian peninsula to the Persian gulf where traders thought he wanted to go round Arabia or Africa to get to Rome and so told him it would take years. He turned and headed back to China when he heard this, some have speculated that it was the Parthians intentionally gave mis-information to prevent the two greatest empires of the time from contacting each other. Although apparently during the reign of Marcus Aurelius some Roman's reached what is now Vietnam and mapped the area, Roman glass, coins and other goods have also been found in China.
Rome would crush them both easily, the imperial army had around 350,000 men at its peak, this is not counting the thousands upon thousands of auxiliaries. Also they would be so wealthy in comparison that they could buy off most of the armies of Westeros and Essos without fighting at all.
@@spaceman9599 Nothing wrong with Prometheus and Covenant in my opinion, but I agree that they are not up to the standard of Gladiator and Alien. But you're right, you can't make 100% great films. Mr Scott has set up the standards so high, that you can't expect 100% every time.
I like the fact that the big boss of the Germanic army wasn't killed in a dramatic, overly choreographed one on one duel with Maximus. He was just unceremoniously overwhelmed by a bunch of regular soldiers and turned into a human pin cushion.
somanytakennames agreed.
It pretty much shows even if one's a leader, you shouldn't fight alone no matter how good you are. That right there is that leader's hubris for having a little too much individual pride.
this movie is very realistic in many ways. I love it.
Alex Gu and maximus didn’t charge in the front row witch was smart he led the flank like a lot of commanders did
Agreed, that puts much more realism into that scene. Othe movies should make notes.
Over 20 years later and this battle scene still looks really well done.
It is! It is no less so for being now twenty years old (hard to believe!) A great film!
Better than today cgis shit to be honest
@@bluesoul7163 yeah I agree with that.
@@bluesoul7163 there's quite a bit of CGI used in the movie Gladiator.
Its impressive made, but has nothing to do with ancient warfare. Germanic warriors did rarely attack fortified roman position mounted with catapults to get slaughtered. In the given situation the germanic warriors would have just retreatet, to force the romans to leave thier walls and catapult positions like Arminius or Kniva did in Teutoburg forest battle or the battle of Abrittus. Germanic warfare was about speed and guerilla tactics, its madness to attack roman soldiers who are heavier armoured in a fortified position.
In 2000, the battle scene was shot better and more thought out than in the entire season 8 the Game of Thrones
Well back in 2000 CGI wasnt that developed or common.
@D Braveheart was early ninties about 8-10 years before the other 2
@D okay got ya. I agree that gladiator was epic and in my opinion one of the greatest movies ever. Braveheart was damn good as far as movies go, albeit inaccurate as hell. Troy, at least for me was just MEH
@D Funny how two of the three best battle scenes I ever seen in a movie were from movies which were not even war movies. Ie: Ambush scene from Forrest Gump and this opening scene from Gladiator. The third being an actual war movie was the invasion of Normandy in Saving Private Ryan
Ridley Scott genius effect 🔥🔥👌🏻👌🏻
This scene aged like a fine wine. Looks better than most modern battle scenes. Pits GOT to shame IMO.
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity." My favourite line from any movie.
ashleigh woytuik i made it a tat 😬😬
I love the one from rise son of Rome “ a brave man dies once a coward a thousand times over”
Words to live by
Lol Pineapple Express ruined an otherwise fantastic quote.
All I see is Red, Dale and Saul fighting 😂
@@drunkastronaut6927 Wanker!
"At my signal, unleash hell." That line and this battle that follows gives me goosebumps every single time!!!
Fun fact!: The Romans didn't believe in hell.
Edit: still a badass scene though
While I'm not sure of the history, isn't the concept of Hell a Judeo-Christian thing? It shows up in "300" which took place over 400 years before Christ.
@@spaceflight1019 you're right but it wasn't the main religion of the empire until Constantine I showed up In the 4th century A.D.
@@nowaydude4283 what was?
@@arbiter8246 Roman paganism (ancient Greece's gods with different name).
Fun fact: planets of our solar system are called after Romans's gods.
Edit: Romans's hell was the Hades as Greeks.
I had the great honor to meet Charlie Allan (the leader of the german horde) at a medievil fetival in Hamburg Germany. He was performing there with his band Saor Patrol. After the show and a few beers he gave me a hug und got stuck with his mighty beard in my ringmail. I was disguised as a barbarian at that time. We had a good laugh and whenever the scene with him in Gladiator shows up, I tell everybody: "Hey! This guy got stuck with his beard in my ringmail!" 😂
Should have asked him to bellow his line from the movie.
very good brother haha
@@JamesVigue ihr seid verfluchte hund!!!!
Are you sure you guys weren’t kissing or something?
I met him too at the premiere. Lovely bloke.
Washing the taste of Gladiator II out of my mouth with this.
Haha I fell asleep in the cinema, Was snoring and dad had to wake me up
Hans Zimmer made Gladiator a masterpiece. This was what II needed
What it needed was another Russell Crowe. @@aaronlee5073
😂😂😂
Gladiator 2 was great
The value of this movie has increased with every passing year, making this into one of the most genuinely formidable films ever made, cinema on an epic scale. The opening battle scene alone is Oscar worthy material, watching the Roman cavalry charge, gives one the goosebumps!
The 2 shots of his dog though very brief also help capture the moment, running just ahead of the horses, and the big bite near the end , no need to show the other 5 take downs
Well the battle scenes are fun.
The rest of the film is a dog
A bit like you...plonker !!
Cavalry charge in the woods is a utterly unrealistic move though. The entire battle is riddled with tactics that were not used by the Roman army... Maybe it has something to do with not deserving an Oscar
Meh, it's fine. No need to go all hyperbole
And 20 years later this is still one of the best battle scenes in any movie. The late 90's and early 2000's had their stuff down man.
they didnt rely as much on cgi as most movie directors nowadays do
The best historically battles are in Alexander the Great movie
Saving Private Ryan, Thin Red Line, Black Hawk Down, Gladiator.
A set piece battle with flaming napalm balls and a rambo dog and suicidal germans.
People were crazy for the build up while going crazy in it. Now everyone just wants to cut to the chase and get to the point.
One thing i liked about this scene is that the 'leader' didn't have a 1 on 1 with someone to the death, he got swarmed and stabbed by multiple people. A lot more realistic than, 1 on 1 with everyone standing around watching :P
Still not realistic, the battle immediately descends into utter chaos where fighters are pairing off. The Roman legions would be in formation using their shields as a literal wall that the enemy could not get past.
Yes. I think if this was film was made in 2016, Maximus would just have to have a 1v1 with the big German guy who throws the severed head. Oh no wait, he would also have to be a superhero too.
+IronRooRoo True that. Everything from the armor, to the weaponry to the tactics is so nicely done in this battle its a pity they didn't stay more historically accurate with the formations. It would have great to see units fighting behind a shield wall, testudo maybe.
No, the typical formation was not used in the latter stage of Marcus's war in Germania. He revised the formation into more fractional maneuverable ones to suit the German forests. The traditional block formation was a proven defeat in the earlier stage of the war
I don't think much of this is realistic, you don't use fire arrows and siege engines in a pitch battle and the soldiers did the whole duelling thing that movies always do.
ROMA VICTOR!!! This movie is one of the greatest movies ever.
A genius historic spectaculair story that has no limits
Error. Roma victrix is the right ortograph
@@naivo31 i just hate people like you.
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@@naivo31 its because Victor was living in Rome at this time
RIP Richard Harris - A truly one-of-a-kind man -- actor, writer, singer, director -- his talents are never-ending! Absolutely appreciated him in Cromwell.
Perfect choice for Marcus Aurelius - demands an actor with serious presence
he was a true emperor of rome and a true headmaster for hogwarths...
A man called horse!
AWAY WITH THIS POPISH IDOLATRY!
@@eamonwright7488
*Try saying that to the crowds who admire their own respective figures in movies.*
*Lets see how well you'll fair.*
I wonder if the German Shepherd was granted citizenship of Rome for his bravery?
Probably even got a seat in the senate
you are genius .... doggo will get "status civitatis "
He justified the doggo status in Rome, since then no dogs were crucified ever again.
friends of rome were very welcome in the empire
He was also granted a Nobel Prize in Science for discovering time travel, considering the German Shepherd breed didn't even come around until the 1800s.
I love how the camera is just unsteady enough to capture the chaos and confusion of the battle, but not so over the top that you can't tell what's going on. Enhances the scene so much. Legendary movie.
Kind of reminds me of the initial scene in Saving Private Ryan
@@Ryosuke1208 That was chaotic for sure.
@Pure Testosterone "Perfect Analysis" of the "Visual-Balance" absolut Agree!!
+Cheers from Germany+
there were many camera men and they chose the best ones,
No it didnt..it just made things more confusing.
One of the greatest battle scenes from one of the most iconic movies in history. A rue masterpiece of storytelling, action, character development, music and, of course, acting! Well deserving of a number of Oscars.
Starlord Vs. Starkiller Attila The Hun
04:24 Stuntman is visible.
It's good cinema but it failed to show Roman legion tactics. Roman legionnaires were much more agressive in their tactics. But then again, seeing how bad Napoleon was you shouldn't expect too much historical accuracy.
@@lq4275 I do like the film the only disappointment is the use of the Zulu war chants from "Zulu" being used at the start
Not if you studied a single part of Roman History, great cinematic battle, but a horrendous portrayal of a "roman battle"
6:25 I can't believe I've never thought of this before. But the reason why Marcus Aurelius looks so anxious during the battle and relieved when it is over is not because he is worried that they will lose, he is worried that Maximus will die. It is not until he hears Maximus' "Roma victor" that he relaxes.
Actually I think his reaction just tells how tired he is of the constant warfare against german tribes and deep inside he knows it'll never end.
@@matts2298 I doubt that. It is clear that the Romans will win even before the battle, the entire German army is defeated and routed at 5:00, the fighting has stopped at 6:00 but it is not until Aurelius hears Maximus' voice that he relaxes. His thoughts are far beyond this battle, this war. He is thinking about his legacy, about the future of Rome. Aurelius looks nervous throughout the battle, far more nervous than someone who has spent their life at war should be. The worst thing that could happen to him now is not a defeat, or an additional 3 months or war, but that Maximus dies.
@@Grivian I'm sorry but you just repeated my own argument. First you are talking about this single battle, while the historical context is told even at this movie's beginning.
This single campaign is already 12 years old and Marcus Aurelius had to fight them in all his life. He is tired and has learned there just can't be an infinite victory nor peace.
But in your second part of your comment you talk about these things yourself so I don't know why you doubt what I've said before. You are making false assumptions with that defeat thing, because it is more than obvious that they are going to win the battle. He is not doubting for a second. He might have cared for Maximus for sure but that gesture is not about Maximus being alive. He is relieved that this single war is over finally. And as I've told he even foreshadows that it's just a beginning of a new one.
And yes, after the Western Roman Empire's position had weakened in many aspects indeed it became conqured eventually by germanic tribes.
@@matts2298 I am not, perhaps you didn't read it carefully enough. Obviously he is happy that the war is over. The question is why he completely changes his expression from extreme anxiety to immense relief at 6:25. That the war is over is a relief of course, but does this battle where the outcome is clear warrant such anxiety from a war veteran? I don't think so. It is not a false assumption, this is an analysis of a movie scene, not a mathematical proof lmao.
There is no question that Aurelius saw Maximus as the most important man in the empire right now, the one who could restore the republic and make sure that Marcus' contribution to the world was more than just war. Anyone who has watched the movie understands this.
Nevertheless you have your interpretation of the scene, I have mine. That such a short scene can have several interpretation just shows what a great movie it is.
@@Grivian Your point is actually true that he had high hopes with Maximus restoring democracy. It is naturally totally a fiction and Marcus Aurelius had no intentions to end caesardom whatsoever with any of his generals in reality, maybe he philosophied about it, I'm not sure honestly.
But in movie context he could have feared for Maximus' life for sure. IMHO this was really not the case. Maximus has surely proven at that point that he is one of the most able generals at the time, won countless of battles, also high ranking officials were not so keen on going all-in themselves and die on the battlefield. Ancient Roman warfare resembled regular imperial warfare much more in my opinion compared to middle ages for example where actual noble and royal members were part of the offense as well, where honor and moral required it.
Here Maximus leads the cavalry attack himself as a general for sure, which is kind of a cringey cinematic move but clearly works, it shows his characther as a brave leader. But still itt would have been strange that the emperor fears for his life so much when this was just merely a last stronghold in a decade long war.
So yes I respect your interpretation that the sign of relief is towards Maximus' survival.
Again for me the higher context is emphasized much more in the movie and at that point we do not even know anything of their friendship/teacher-studen or father-son relationship, only about the long struggle the emperor had with warfare while surely it was not because he wanted to like previous conquerors, he only wanted to protect heritage and legacy. Probably wished to do totally other things in his reign being known for a wise philosopher.
The production, the dialogue, the cinematography, the costumes, the dramatic score.. its just perfect.
Apart from the gas canister under the chariot and the bloke in his t shirt and denims the move is perfection.
Not the costumes...at least not in this scene.
With the Germans it's at best anachronistic and at worst Skyrim armor.
Nah this movie is overrated
1:13
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity."
Fun fact: That was a quote from Marcus Aurelius himself. It's a hidden gem to see Maximus say it to his men, as it shows his respect for the Emperor (who at that time was Marcus Aurelius)
Sarg. What do you call a man who unexpectedly has an organism while performing oral sex on his woman?........Gladiator.
@@jameswahnee435 An organism?
@@TLMHaru sorry spelled it wrong... orgasm
I also like how Marcus Aurelius is worried that he might be labeled a tyrant by history when history speaks of him as one of the four good emperors. But he beats himself up too much in the film as he bashes himself for expanding the empire when he didn't expand one mile but only defended what Rome had already conquered.
"Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" - Another quote from Marcus Aurelius
If Gladiator 2 doesn't have this banger of a soundtrack then it has already failed
Saw the trailer. Already failed
Hiphop shit
Uh...yeah...about that, bruv; you might want to skip this one.
It is called Score... Not soundtrack
Such a huge risk to make a sequel to what is arguably a perfect film. It's going to flop. There's no way it couldn't.
4:52 “THE ENEMY GENERAL IS SLAIN AND NOW HIS MEN FEAR US, IT IS TIME TO PRESS THE ATTACK”
Megas Alexandros!!
RTW!!! hahaha
Hahaha was just thinking how I wanna play some total war
In another timeline:
'The Enemy general has been killed by our Brave Warriors, Attack, Attack!'
Bruh I almost just based a point in my college essay on this comment before I realized he didn’t actually say that. Damn it would really help if he had
First matches between Italy and Germany before the invenction of football
well Maximo was spaniard but yes, Roma as italian institution.
The mood hasn't changed much actually
@sebbspato2 True, but for plot reasons Maximus was refered as spaniard in the movie since he was born in what is today´s Spain altough i must agree that the proper term should have been Iberian.
@@JC-xi9kr Dear J.C.,
thanks to have answer to my comment! Seems you are very susceptible and nervous, specially considering that my comment about football was for fun. Maybe it was obvious just for smart people, but with you we have an exception! Don't worry, I love talking of history and this is a great opportunity for you to learn something :)
Rome was, first of all, a city in Latium, in central Italy. It was founded in 753 b.C. (it's one of the oldest cities in Europe) and it became an empire "only" in 27 b.C.. This means that, for many centuries, Rome was first a city and then a Republic.
In that period, the Italic Peninsula was a "melting pot" of many different populations, such as "Veneti" and "Liguri" in the north (ancient populations that gave birth to autonomous civilisations) Greeks in the south, Etruscans in the centre (I'm sure you know the greatness of Etruscans :) ) and many other Italic populations in the centre and in the south, including the Romans.
So, first of all, history should teach you that Italic peninsula was one of the richest "meeting point" of civilisations of all human history and not, as you said, "an insignificant country" :) You're also wrong when you said that "Rome was not an ethnic people": surely it was, they had a precise consideration of themselves as a specific population of Italic Peninsula that, after, began to expand :)
More than this, let me tell you that Romans had a precise idea of all the lands "at this side of the Alps" and history should teach you this. All the lands of Italic Peninsula were the first lands that composed the first Roman Republic: before the massive expansion all over Europe, Rome became the first power between Italic populations who became, year by year, the heart of Roman civilisation. In fact, Romans called Italic Peninsula (all the lands between the Alps and the bottom of the "Boot") "Italia" and they defined it as "Domina Provinciarum" ("Queen of provinces"), "Rectrix Mundi" ("World's Ruler"), "Omnium Terrarum Parens" ("Mother of all lands"). They considered the Italic Peninsula as the homeland of their civilisation. In fact, with "Lex Plautia Papiria" (89 b.C.) and "Lex Roscia" (49 b.C.) the Roman citizenship was extended by right to all inhabitants of the Peninsula. First Roman legions was totally composed by Italic soldiers and even the Pretorian guard was, in the first centuries of its existence, composed rigorously of Italics. So third error for you, since Italy was not "incidentally situated" in Roman world but, on the contrary, it occupied a prestigious and foundamental place in the formation of Roman's identity :)
About this topic, I suggest you to read "Geography" of Strabone, it may help you in understanding what "Italia" meant for Romans :) I read it in ancient Greek (because I studied it for many years, with Latin of course) and I translated it, but, if you didn't study ancient Greek, I'm sure you can find copies in your mother language :)
When Rome moved to other European lands, they had a precise idea of differences between "lands at this side of the Alps" and "lands at the other side of the Alps", and this is not my opinion: this is History.
Of course, since Rome built an Empire, many other people began to live under Roman civilisation, contributing to enrich the Empire itself. This was the key of Rome's power but, until the end of Western Empire in 476 a.D., "Italia" had a role of prestige and prominence, which differentiated it from every region of the Empire. As I told you, you can read Strabone but also Cassio Dione, Caesar and Velleio Patercolo (just to name a few) if you want to find something about this topic :) I suggest you to read them in Latin and to translate, as I did, but if you don't know Latin don't worry, you can find copies in you mother language :)
After falling of Roman Empire (476 a.D. for its Western Part) and during Middle Ages, Barbaric tribes arrived also in Italy and during the centuries lot of other populations contributed to create a "melting pot" in Europe and in Italy (and this is the greatness of European civilisation, that we are all brothers). Do you want to know something interesting? Even after the falling of the Empire, Germanic tribes in Italy maintained administrative power in the hands of Italic officials, because they had administered they own Peninsula for over a thousand years.
Of course Europe is a "melting pot" of many different populations, but history should teach you (and I explained to you, also giving you historical references) that the ties between Rome and Italy were so strong that the Romans themselves granted to all Italics to consider themselves as "Romans", and this happened lot of years before the extension of citizenship to the rest of other territories.
This means that Italy has the oldest ties with ancient Rome. This is testified, for example, by the fact that Italy is the country with the largest number of Roman ruins.
Every modern State all over the world is composed by a large number of different ethnicities, that's for sure. And every State in Europe has collected the Roman legacy, this is clear to everyone who studied. But it should be also clear that the strongest, oldest and deepest heritage of Roman civilisation is in Italy.
It's not different, for example, from the fact that England was the homeland of Britons. It was invaded by the Romans, by the Germanic tribes, by the Vikings...and it became a "melting pot". But it does not deprive England of its deeper Celtic origins.
Lastly, I also would like to tell you that my "misplaced sense of justified pride" - as you said - is due to the fact that Italy has 55 UNESCO sites (first country in the world with China), that in Italy we have an environmental condition such unique that we have - from Northern Italy to Southern Italy - the largest variety of food products in the world, that we have 7000 species of eatable vegetables (first country in the world), that we have 58000 different animal species (first country in the world), that we have 1200 local vineyards (first country in the world; the second place is occupied by France with 222), that we have 533 olive species (first country in the world; the second country is Spain, with 70), 140 wheat crops varieties (first country in the world; U.S.A. at the second place with 6). We are the country with the biggest biodiversity in the world. We're historically the cruel of Western civilisation (with Greece). We have had poets like Dante and genius like Leonardo. We've had the Renaissance. We've had artists like Michelangelo, Raffaello, Botticelli, Donatello, Canova, Bernini, Verdi, Rossini, Vivaldi, Puccini, Monteverdi, Boccherini and thousands, thousands more. We've had great scholars like Galilei, like Fermi, like Marconi and thousands more, through the ages. Even the Alphabetic characters that you are using was invented in my Peninsula.
Still think my pride is misplaced?
And you, where are you from? :)
Bye
P.s.: everyone should be proud of his/her homeland, everyone should be proud and aware of his/her origins, without svalutate the others' one. But this requires a high level of education and I'm afraid you lack it.
marconi marconi..................you mean nikola tesla's wanna be....copy cat.......fraud.........yeah well i will not be so proud about that idiot, i just wanted to point THIS one out only, and yes obviously a kinda hate this asshole. just a personal thing.......
"If you find yourself alone riding in green fields with the sun on your face do not be troubled for you are in Elysium, AND ALREADY DEAD." Great line
Real men facing death. All one can do is smile back. 🦸
Notice all the soldiers laugh as this is a welcoming experience opposed to what they’re going through at the moment
Sadly that's where his dog ends up at the end of the film (and if we ignore the sequel plans likely Maximus himself).
This scene is AMAZING. The music at the end is amazing, when he shouts "Roma Victor", also the emperor gazing him with hopeful eyes at 6:32 but also resigning ones admitting deep inside what he always thought: Maximus is the son he wanted and the one meant to be emperor.
I agree. However, I think he says 'Roma Victa', Latin for essentially Rome victorious. I think this is the case due to him saying Roma, the Latin way of saying Rome. I wish the movie incorporated more Latin into certain scenes. Battle commands in the Colosseum fights would have been great.
The emperor sees himself having a quiet reception . His son and daughter are not even noticed. Maximus on the other hand inspires the army the backbone of Rome . He shouts and the whole army is willing to die for Maximus. It becomes clear who is favored by the gods. Sadly his son is not the one.
@@FrostyGerardo-kr7xs exactly!!! It's so powerful! It's brilliant!
It is Roma Invicta! That means Rome Invicible.
Rome victori .....latinium.
I know it's probably silly...but being from Rome...every time I watch this scene...it makes me proud and gives me goosebumps.
I'm from Valencia in Spain, or Valentia how the Romans would have said. I am genetically 79% Iberian, and I find the pre-roman iberian culture and history interesting, but at the same time I am proud that we were part of the Empire. Everything in the past contributes to our identity today.
@@salvat3735 ‘The Spaniard’
SPQR
@@brunogiuntoli3382 Spaniard! Spaniard! Spaniard!
@zirboman
Actually, the Romans lost the decisive battle against the Germanic tribes in the Teutoburg Forest (the Varus Battle).
They therefore retreated behind the Limes and made no further attempts to subjugate Germania Magna.
As a teenager I appreciated the aesthetic of this movie. Now as an adult I also recognise that aside from the brilliant cinematics, it also featured 4 of the greatest acting talents tp ever grace the big screen. Harris and Reed are no longer with us, Crowe was at his peak during this time and Phoenix had yet to be fully recognised for his sheer talent as an actor.
Well said 👍
I loathe and detest Joaquin Phoenix, but you're right about the other three.
@@R3dp055um can I enquire why?
@@slowmo9642 cos he's a monumental sh*itlibber and ginormous hypocrite to boot, like all leftard whack jobs that ooze through Hollyweird.
@@R3dp055um Cringe
I have watched this many times over the years and think this is one of the greatest battle scenes on film. It portrays the chaos of battle and as stated in the comments before this the fact that while a great general Maximus is not a super man and several times in this scene he avoid death with the team work of his fellow soldiers. A Roman military trait of team work and fighting as a whole unit.
It's great movie action material. I also love how they show contrary to most movies with Romans that they also had ballista's and catapults, which they effectively also had. I suppose the only movie/series that actually portrays Roman battlefield tactics accurately is the serie Rome, particularly the scene where drunk Pullo is forced back into the ranks. I suppose it is not as flashy on screen. The dummest portrayal I've seen is Dragon Blade, where the Romans fought Mano a Mano.... yeah no, that were the Germanic tribes that fought that way. Quite effectively I must say coz they destroyed the Roman Falanx and occupied Rome in the early stages. It's of them that the Romans adopted the sword, Gladius, as a 2nd weapon and abandoned the to them proven to be obsolete Greek Falanx.
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It `s just a cheap remake from a 70ies movie!
It is great but the Romans would have kept formation much more in real life instead of single soldier combat. But for some reason Hollywood thinks it is more exciting to see these single fights when Romans really fought in ranks.
This scene is so absurdly unreal that it’s literally one of the worst battle scene ever. However, it still is epically made!
Maximus is a great General, shouting out to his troops, reminding them he is right there with them as they charge. Also I love that smile he gives that infantryman in the middle of the battle.
Just like Napoleon
OP fyi: maximus is not actually a real general.
Agree but this wasn't just for morale. He was also directing their movement. A charge is a lot more devastating when focused.
@@dante666jt Perhaps the Greatest War Lord of all time!
The fact that he declined cesear’s offer in replacing him ticked me off… on a side note the music score is awesome.
"STAY WITH ME" what a master piece.
Now this is how you do a Cavalry charge, unlike GoT where the cavalry charge into darkness and die for nothing
cavalry charge in a forest is almost as stupid
secdeal the trees look pretty well spread, and it helps conceal the cavalry charge
@@secdeal you'd make a shit commander
secdeal at least they attacked the flanks and not head on into a army of 100,000 or more that will not stop trying to kill you no matter what feels no pain and will not retreat
@@secdeal That why using a cavalry charge in a forest would be effective. The tribesmen have the forest at theirs back and they believe that the only threat will come from the front. They wouldn't dream of cavalry coming through the forest behind them.
Love the fact that a random infantry soldier bumps into someone (he doesn't know, friend or foe) and turns around and it's THE General fighting right in the thick of it, just as he is. That's my favorite scene from this part.
-Quintus: " A people should know when they are defeated "
Maximus: " would you quintus? Would I "
My favorite line of the whole movie
And Quintis remembered this line when Maximus fought Commodus. Quintis knew Commodus is already defeated.
especially since rome never managed to defeat germania.
Gets me everytime i play aoe2
@@swunt10 Yes they did
"For you are in elysium, and you're already dead,' another Stoic reminder! I love that they had all this stoicism vibe in the main character.
Who came here to watch a proper battle after the disappointing Battle of Winterfell?
me...
This wasn't a proper battle as it immediately devolved into one on one combats BUT tactics and disposition of forces were PROPERLY used.
@@aztecaddress6356 stfu beta male. Go back to your Starbucks late you don't know sht about tactics you fake poser. MAGA 2020
@@danielcarelli5704 We may start all with the simple fact that romans dont have cavalry and archers in the legion.And this guys with bows and horses are not auxiliaries (support troops) by the look of them :)
@Pommy Pie Absolutely mate.....I grew up watching this masterpiece long before GOT was a thing.
I love that dog. Smart as hell and loyal to his master.
Canis pugnax?
This is truly one of the greatest movies ever made. In the first act alone, so much has been established on the main character.
It has it's flaws but this opening battle is one of the best battles i've ever watched in cinema. Hands down.
Branko Drobnjak iT hAS iTS fLAwS, well of course no one alive today witnessed the Romans battling the Gauls 🙄
@@JosephDeLosSantos-t3m If we only make movies about things we actually witnessed there wouldn't be much left we can watch. And in Gladiator the Romans fought against Germanic tribes not the Gauls.
@@JosephDeLosSantos-t3m shut the fuck up this was not roman fighting style this looks like ww1 idk how they managed to fuck up the fighting style so bad
Hanz Zimmer is just an incredible composer.
Yeah his music strengthen this scene, so epic!
So-so. Blatant rip of of Holst's "Mars" in some places.
no he is not
Why do you try to diminish their sacrifice? You mean that warriors are not allowed to enjoy a glorious death? You think warriors should be depressed and full of rage only?
Stfu gays
Respect to soldiers across the ages but especially in those times. It was so close and personal.
Totally! Man-if Wars went back to being fought like this?-Face to face-Man to man..!??!.. War would be SO MUCH MORE Re-considered before ever engaging in it so Recklessly.
@@richardmapa2585 What we have today is not even real war. Hundreds of thousands died on both sides in a single engagement during WWI over a few yards of worthless dirt. Now you do not even get 100k casualties in a year. We have already become far less reckless.
respect all soldiers of any age -but i would not be one of them.
@notrius7754 u right.
The score from 2:41 is unbelievably eerie and powerful. The music in this movie is just amazing.
Frrrr! And the one at 6:32 is SO POWERFUL! I had chills
Mars is such an iconic piece of music, and of course Mars is the God of War!
Was good in Pirates of the Caribbean too....
inspired (stolen) from: th-cam.com/video/L0bcRCCg01I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hXIq_DLHBRAQqrnU&t=81
at 3:08, when the hammer drops on Hans Zimmermans "The Battle" score, and you hear Maximus's "HOLD THE LINE!" echoing over the thunderous booming of the horses galloping, man that still gives me chills 22 years later
You are not alone , brother
HOLD THE LINE!... STAY WITH ME! just epic
Maximus! Maximus!
And then the trumpets and PoC gimmicky tune ruins the scene because it doesn't fit the moment at all.
I love how this scene goes from inspiring confidence to the slower reflection on just chaos and killing to a final relief that its over.
That single pan shot from 2:55 to 3:05 is one of the greatest in cinematic history.
Sooo underrated. One of the best in cinema history.
3:42 LMAO wtf is that deaf and blind guy doing?
Gives me goosebumps every time
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@@bitcoinethereum9702he hit that fent cart a little too hard just before the battle.
I still remember watching this inside a dolby cinema 20 years back, exiting crestfallen and getting completely absorbed by it for the next couple of days. What an experience it was!
I was 13 when I saw this at the cinema back in 2000. I not ashamed to admit it I balled my eyes out at the ending. I still remember being extremely upset leaving the cinema.
I think why Maximus is such a great character is his virtues and principles as a man. He fights not because he desires to, but because it is his duty to the empire, Rome and the Emperor himself. And he honours his duty but also because he respects his men that he desires to protect them and make sure as many of them return home as he can.
And speaking of home, Maximus's true motivation in battle is his wife, son and home. When an axe flies towards him, he feels the slight fear he may never see his family again and fights back with everything he has.
He is a loyal General and skilled tactician but at the root of it all, he is a man with a family and a desire stronger than anything to see them again.
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Lol his virtues and principles as a man. What bullshit. He’s a (fictitious) general leading an army invading the lands of people who never wanted Roman occupation, slaughtering men who were actually fighting for their wives and children and the land they owned. People have made a habit of glorifying ‘virtuous’ men who were nothing more than violent, land stealing murderers who wrote themselves as heroes of history.
Well he is a man with honor
I heard that dog was ranked as Centurion
kotk05 And then that dog replaced Maximus as General of the Felix Legion!
Steva Stevanovic he's a great General but he sniffs butts
kotk05 He's only comand is "Grrrr" barking.
Steva Stevanovic that is where you are wrong he has sophisticated borders depending on all of his tail movements his ears etc.
Orders*
As a person born and raised in Rome, this makes me cry.
And I was born in Germania, still proud of romans hmm..
As a person born in the US but has true Latin (Roman) blood flowing in my veins I cry with you
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Alex Crow I love the Romans and their history, what made me cry was the war between the Romans and the Germanic tribe in the forest. Armenius betrayed the Romans, he grew up in Rome but he decided to be loyal to the people from his homeland Germany, I can’t stand that guy, he really hurt the Romans. The Romans did nothing wrong, but Armenius had them slaughtered and massacred like cattle!!!
@@kathyrene3586 the Roman revenge...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Idistaviso
Probably the best battle in the history of the cinema.
This scene is so incredibly balanced. There’s strength and resolve as well as fear and despair. Then that final shot of the emperor closing his eyes in a sigh of relief gives you the feeling of peace mixed with uncertainty for the future.
Of them all, Marcus Aurelius was the Emporer that truly embodied the power and the responsibility of the position - and actually cared for the men serving under him.
A very good summary on the battle scene. Incredible observation and choice of words to convey .
На этом языке точно не говорили просто воины я имею англоязычных
Just noticed some of the barbarians have old roman shields.
And that’s accurate
@@jackj9816 Yup. But horned helmets are not. Neither is most of this battle, really.
RolloTheWalker better then most haha
RolloTheWalker atleast the fact that this battle took place anyway is accurate
Well, this battle is kinda accurate kinda not. First, they use Calvary and shit correctly. Not a dramatic 1v1 between Maximus and the Germanic General but instead killed by ordinary legionaries. Used fire, especially in a forest. And other stuff
I love that it was just normal Legionnaires that killed the enemy barbarian general. No epic duel, no ridiculous fight scene, just a normal, valiant man being overwhelmed and falling to well-trained and armored enemies.
Still a bit of historical ridiculousness in this scene. The idea that the Romans would use siege warfare weapons on tribes in an open field (who are dressed like they are still in the Stone Age) is just silly.
@@themaskedman221haha true that, i read somewhere that the tribesman actually had uniforms and armor on par with the romans
Don't forget that Maximus himself almost died too when he lost his horse and a barbarian took him down
@@themaskedman221 Romans did use scaled down artillery in the open field though, that's what this is conveying.
@@seraphx26 Siege batteries on forest tribes? I don't think so. There's no evidence that catapults and ballistae were ever used in a forest. But do cite some if you know of any.
I always find myself coming back to this scene, especially the theme at the end.
I always watch this scene for Marcus Aurelius' expression after the end of the battle. You can see he's exhausted, more psychologically than physically. "Another one has been won". Great acting.
Imagine, all your career you are on the Roman frontier, fighting barbarian incursions after barbarian incursions, never stopping in Rome for at least a year, will truly make you look like Marcus Aurelius.
All the emotion combined. So real.
Fun fact: they filmed this battle in my town of Farnham, England! We have beautiful woodlands here
Conquered by the Romans. Perfect location.
@@XXOCUit’s okay. We conquered the world hundreds of years later
@@scarecrowman7789 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ok
Look at what the romans did to it
04:24 Error alert! This is not Russell Crowe but his stunt double.
I love the soundtrack for this movie. Gives me goosebumps every time I hear it.
The good kind.
A Masterpiece of battle scenes. Just stunning.
yeah
Glad this wasn’t made like the battle of Winterfell...you can actually see the action. Calvary was properly employed for flanking, catapults were behind defensive barriers, and the arrows were actually effective. Edited for grammar.
Just remove the silly fire arrows and other fire projectiles and its almost perfect.
Normally I’d agree but they were in a forest. Seems like burning the trees and possibly the enemy hiding in them would be a good idea so fire arrows and fire pot artillery in this opening scene makes total sense.
Michael Crawford fire arrows do not work. It’s just something hollywood made up.
What ? I don’t disagree Hollywood greatly hypes them up but to say they weren’t a real thing is just stupid. Like a two second google search will show you while rare they did exist.
Michael Crawford where exactly did i say they did not exist? They were used very very rarely, because they don’t work like they are shown
This movie is 20 years old and this fight scene still holds up to today's standards pretty damn well.
Of course it is. Film-makers (like Ridley Scott) were no less talented twenty years ago!
It really doesn't, though. It's a tavern fight. People didn't fight like this. Historical movies have been moving more and more towards representing battles how they really were fought (formations, etc).
Gladiator and LOTR just copied the Braveheart battle style, which is kinda dumb and out of place.
@@DudeWatIsThis No one cares nerd.
There is always this person who kills the fucking mood.
@@sair9ason9a Exactly: Hollywood producers.
The sadder shift in the music towards the end is just beautiful.
"The glory of victory? What is that?" No soldier in history (at least no sane one) has ever claimed that a battle is anything but a tragedy.
Brave Heart is another movie in which the battle scenes are very well put together .
Fun film too, but always a film.
William Wallace was a lowlander Scot and did not wear a kilt. They wore cloths similar to the English. Then again he would not have resembled a Scot fighting the English wearing a tunic covering a mail-coat in the film. ;)
What we do in life.
Echoes in eternity.
What we do in life.... Surf TH-cam and Reddit?
ima go and kill some random people from north europe. that should echo.
@@tistoni09 it was a line with a memorable bit of drama, that's all.
@@Avenus112 it's actually a quote from Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius from the book he wrote "Meditations"
I'm sure some of my farts reverberate in outter space and it will continue to do so forever
22 years of this masterpiece. I like how the intro started and the battle was awesome.
The last scene always gets me. The first time I watched it I cried, made me feel conscious of the ones who died in the fields of battle in all our history
JESUS CHRIST will come very soon!
Ha, gaaaaay
Yea it’s why maintaining our historical sites and statues is so important
@@bekennejesusdeinesundenund2427 Well when he does. tell him he's 20 years late.
Me too, I weep silently for the tragedy of human nature, that we dismember each other with swords and missiles and dogs, and when those are spent we pummel each other in the face with rock or fist. It is heart-rending to me 😭
02:15 I remember in cinema the wide angle shot with all the ignited arrows, illuminating the sky, was absolutely mesmerising, on the huge screen, the shot gave goosebumps, amazing sound editing, you had the impression you were there in the shot in the middle of this battle. Even if you listen to youtube to the sound with decent headphones, you can distinguish the many sound layers during the battle. what a scene, crafted to perfection. Still remember seeing it in cinema like it was yesterday... 23 years ago.
If there is cinema cell to frame from this film, it would be this one
Flame arrows were not a thing, so it's all bullshit.
That was my experience too. It blew away my campy perceptions of battle pre-gunpowder, and was a totally mesmerizing scene. The scale conveyed in this battle was truly awesome.
The music build up is so insane... Hans Zimmer made an incredible job for this movie. One of the best he's done by the way
3:43. Love how the long haired guy in the middle is just casually smiling whilst not having a clue what to do. First day of the acting job. 😄
ROFL
If you look closely, you can see a lot of them, both Romans and Barbarians alike, have this grin on their face as if they are playing swordfight like lil kids, which is exactly what acting is. Since these extras are only there to fill a scene as a crowd, they don't need to be particularly skilled... but would it kill them to take it seriously, no matter how fun it might've been, they could have ruined the scene if it was obvious enough to be caught on the first watch in the theaters. How many footage might have gone to waste when they noticed theses during film editing stage.
Lmao looks like hes stoned af just walking through yhe battle xD
That famous 3:43 clip. Yeah but look to the far right. Smiling Romans just watching and a barbarian just strolling. He has got a giant arrow in his chest or maybe in his shield.
The amicable and friendly neighbourhood barbarian stereotype. I am sure his wife made some choice porridge he was bringing to share with the Romans.
One of the greatest movies ever. It showed the might of the Roman, yet it took brave soldiers to make it work. The Germanic people were brave to the end, even knowing they were going to die that day. Great story telling, great actors, .
Descendants of those same German soldiers a few hundred years later covered in animal skins and wielding axes and who were well trained by "the Hammer" stood firm in their hollow squares against a very formidable cavalry from south of the border and didn't give an inch, saving Europe and what we now know as European civilization!
Just hurts a little to see the main character one arm Gladius blocking two handed axes
Feels bad for my two-hand axe boys
But why were the Romans all white Europeans, New Zealander’s or Americans. They are Italian
@@phyllivingston391 Are you talking about the actors or historically?
@@phyllivingston391 Italians are white and european lol, what you mean is nordic/germanic actors. Thats something that always happens in movies
Amazing. This scene, this film will echo in eternity.
I remembered watching this movie for the first time and I was impressed by thr level of chrisma Russell Crowe exudes.
Maximus as a leader, I will follow you to the ends of the Earth
Gold Eagle i watched this scene when I was too young to watch it and I was oh so impressed by the action and fright the germanic tribes brought to me
Incredible battle scene - not drowning in CGI - that holds up well. And the score is the chef's kiss
This movie was released around 2000/05/19.
Do you feel old yet!? I'm in my mid 30's and I still think that this movie is one of the greatest movies I've seen so far!
What a set up for the main story. Gladiator is the most perfect film ever made.
This battle scene would be great in any context but I think what makes it particularly great is that it's the OPENING scene. Its purpose is to introduce Maximus and the other characters, rather than most big budget battle scenes which are the climax/conclusion of the movie. I think this is the formula to have great scenes like this but to not feel cheesy or cliche or too much plot-armor.
One of the greatest movie battle scenes in movie history!! I can watch this over and over!
Although in reality, the opposite outcome is more accurate: When the Romans were in the forest, it was the Germans who would ambush/attack and win.
The Roman Empire was the foundation of Europe, modern institutions are based on Roman Law remember that
Well - The Davidic Government was actually first and Imperial Rome copied a whole hell of a lot from them.
Its not about who made up what... but who made it work.
The answer is always Roma did.
... Roman institutions, laws and religions, which were based on those of the Greeks.
take a hit'a'that
what about greece?? romans did copy paste to 90% of the things greeks did.
so you say china invented apple and many other brands like nike adidas phillips....
"how often do you think about the Roman empire?"
almost everyday,...
Everyday, man. Every. Damn. Day. SPQR.💪🏼💪🏼
Every dame day spqur
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Rome is still strong in our hearts. One could say she truly is eternal
Why? Live your own life. Rome was great but 1500 years ago. You cannot live in the past
Awesome battle scene. Simply one of the greatest battle scenes in movies.
I never get tired of watching it. So so good
There were a few times I was expecting to see Captain Jack Sparrow running awkwardly through the chaos. Love the score
Would it boggle your mind to know that pirates like Jack Sparrow wouldn't be around for another 1000 years
One of memorable scenes where the action,spoken word and music are almost perfection in combination.
Wow, first an epic battle scene with great music and then it changes to that slow theme and it becomes more of a commentary of the tragedy and sadness of war. Amazing.
One of the greatest if not the greatest battle scene of its type. It is not just the choreography, but the realism as well. You can sense the professionalism of the Roman Army at that time. How they were meticulously prepared for their battles and their fighting spirit, all of which made the Romans the greatest army in the world. Now, the tribes that fought them at the beginning were not very well organized, but as time passed, they became integral part of the Roman Army, which was caused Rome’s demise.
hoooo boy, lemme tell ya, in history, they fought sooo much better than that, those small groups of two line cohorts are awful lol.
Its terrible. It starts off promising, but ends awfully. Tight shots, over used slo‐mo, bizarre cuts...don't know what the editors were thinking. By contrast, the coliseum scene was brilliant.
Except for the catapult silliness, no reason they would have so much artillery unless they were engaged in a siege. And the comical depiction of the germanic tribe, which would have also fought in formations, using spear phalanx walls and shields. In fact it is the Roman infantry formations that would have appeared less organized, as they were more flexible and capable of moving around faster/acting independently.
Guzman, you are an ejit
This is bullshit. The "barbarians" were actually quite sophisticated opponents in their own right. Julius Caesar describes them using a testudo in battle against him, for example. Vercingetorix's fabian strategy nearly defeated him. Rome at the time of Gladiator was a diverse empire with soldiers drawn from all around the Mediterranean. If you consider non-Romans to be barbarians, the process was already thoroughly underway without a corresponding decline in military capabilities.
Still a masterpiece, which captures both the glory and horrors of war all at once. Russell Crowe at his finest!
Подскажите пожалуйста, из какого фильма этот отрывок?
@Дмитрий Пономарев чувак, в названии видео написано же...
@@vasvas8914 Спасибо. Через минуту ещё тогда разобрался. А ты из Чувашии? Ты чувак? Я то нет. Я Россиянин.
@@ДмитрийПономарев-у9ъ Я - Чувак, так меня и зови. Ещё можно Ваше Чувачество, Чувакер, или, там, Эль Чувачино, это если ты не любитель краткости.
@@vasvas8914 договорились
5:25 Hans Zimmer “The Battle” - many have commented about the music at the end. It’s part of the same soundtrack.
5:23 - The end of a people. This bit always makes makes me tear up a bit.
My history teacher had us watch this movie during class, best history teacher ever.
Send him my love
"What we do in life echoes in eternity" is one of my top five favorite quotes
This movie is a great masterpiece
@RealCapo88 alot of people
Jose Centuriao 💯
I was so stoked to hear that there is going to be a sequel to this masterpiece film. And yes before any on asks. YES THERE IS GOING TO BE A PART TWO TO THIS FILM!
I had to see this movie 12 times in wide screen just to comprehend how magnificently it was made , the whole theatrical scene was so awesome 👏.
gosh what a masterpiece. i even had watery eyes at the end. no other movie came even close to that lol
What a scene that transcends time, i thank all the brothers and sisters who made this possible
Richard Harris only has to be on screen for 15 seconds approx @6:37 to show how he earns his cheques. An epic artist his entire life.
Idk why, but the shots and the change in music tempo at 2:39 - 3:06 are so so epic to me. The building of tension, the whistling of the arrows, the echoing commands from the lieutenants, the horse charge, and then the shot of Emperor Aurelius at 2:53. All of this is happening because of that man there.
And then after the shot of him, it pans to the absolute warfare that such a powerful seat, such as his, is capable.
And then this whole clip ends with the look of relief and sadness on Dumbledore’s (😂) face as the battle ends.
Amazing Hans Zimmer and John Williams are GOATS. But man Hans and Ridley Scott made something magical.
Russell Crowes improvisation and demeanor was great too. Hes a drunk, but aren't we all? He just keeps it real and more of a simple man. Strength and Honor was a improv by him, lol his high school motto.
Rather than your typical DC Politican or Hollywood scumbag that sell their own mothers to advance themselves.
Than around 3:21 the Pirates of the Caribbean theme
I have always loved that ten second shot at 2:54 with the catapults sending in that artillery, just utter firepower, so well done.
Then you never saw the movie with this same empire against a 2010 US force of 20,000 men with mini guns, helicopters, stealth bombers you name it. They wiped out this Roman army in less than 6 minutes. Seeing the Roman army marching against tanks and 20+ miniguns was laughable and the Romans looked awful and couldn’t advance. It was a movie where the US wanted to test a time machine at this time and sent back an armada.
@@CB-ux5xc sounds funny
Except they never did (flaming arty) that except sieges of backward barbarian cities and villages full of thatched and wooden roofs. That's why the Roman really tried to tile all their roofs; that and the rain water they could get.
@@CB-ux5xc ???
I love how the Roman formations immediately fall apart and the battle dissolves into a 1v1 shit-show.
Pullo! Formation!
Yeah, not too accurate. Roman army at its peak had tight, unbreakable square formations with each man on the front fighting no more than 6 minutes after which he was replaced and given some water and rest so that the whole army would be able to fight for hours and hours together without falling apart
@@EmeraldMack992 I am Romanian and whenever I heard the name Pullo in "rome" I cracked up. In Romanian, that words is veeery close to "dick"
@@EmeraldMack992 Shields on me!
YES exactly what I was saying previously..... Dead on. The orderly, synchronized, sequential fighting and front-line replacement tactics are what wore away at brute force and shock tactics from Germanic/Celtic troops. I love this movie, and think there are really good depictions of the soldiers are great.
This gives us an example of what battles were like in medieval times. 🇧🇷
This whole scene in Gladiator at the start of the film is absolutely fantastic the battle is just amazing and the weapons that the Romans have compared to the German people is just unbelievable arrows spears sorwds and giant fire bombs as well is just incredible and very impressive and I absolutely love the start of the film just brilliant.
I remember Marcus Aurelius was very sad about this war, which I think was thirty years older than he was...
Giant firebombs.... in a forest, in Germany, on campaign... gotta love Hollywood.
Oh, you forgot the fire arrows...
i wonder if it is true.
@@carlogambacurta548 Probably not; there were lots of such pitched battles against the Gauls but that was earlier. The Germanic wars were mostly the Germans avoiding the Romans until they had mustered enough troops for decent-sized guerilla attack or two, as the Romans retreated (because their supply lines were overstretching).
There is very little in Roman sources - far less in fact thgan what we have by now found in the ground. The Romans apparently went to the Göttingen area or even the middle Elbe, there have been a few battlefields that mostly seem Roman rearguard actions, but contemporary sources do not mention those, or only in the most circunstantial terms, so nothing suggests there was any major battle in the woods, let alone a major Roman victory. There certainly was no siege train on the Germania campaigns (there was nothing there to besiege).
Idistaviso is the sole major Roman victory we can really be sure about, but that was in the Weser floodplain ("viso" is "meadow). The closest thing to the Gladiator battle (setting, season, weapons) that actually happened was Angrivarian Wall, but Tacitus is really circumspect about this and while the German forces seem to have been beaten off their fort with heavy losses, the Romans did not push further east and didn't even stay in the area, but immediately retreated some 100 miles back to their fortified camps further west.
(What the movie does get spot on is the abysmal conditions for fighting Roman style. In reality however, they did prevent such battles. Charging Roman heavy cavalry thru an uncharted forest in the gloom is a really really crap idea, and indeed the evidence for such cavalry ever being present in Germania in numbers is slights. Mostly they hired some German raiders to scout and protect the infantry's flanks on the march.
And if you ever take the Autobahn east or northeast from Dortmund, you'll know why the Teutoburg forest is the Teutoburg Jump in Latin: you drive for an hour or so thru the most perfectly level countryside, and then there's a forested "wall" rising suddenly in front of you. Back at that time, it was essentially impenetrable. It's like that from the battle site near Osnabrück all the way down to Paderborn. For all the Romans could tell, there might as well have been dragons behind that. They went around north and south at least once, past the Weser or Fulda, but there were only more forested ranges beyond, and that was that, so they withdrew and did a triumph mainly because this time they hadn't gotten their butts handed on a platter. But nothing of value was to be gained from subduing those lands. Better to sit at the Rhine and trade Celtic knick-knacks errr "only the finest gemsmith wares directly from Lutetia" to the local yokels errr "esteemed discerning customers". And wine. Lots of wine. A people with no access to purebred yeast will drink almost anything that's not outright vinegar. In exchange for blonde or ginger bed- and fighting slaves, which went at a premium.
After Augustus, the German frontier was for some 200 years mostly good for improving the Roman trade balance.)
Thanks,sir.
Marcus Aurelius is like “man, am I too old for this crap...”
True.. Very True 😂😂😂
Seen too much slaughter and too much destruction. Unfortunately, it is in the nature of empire that the answer to the question "Is it enough?" is always "no".
@@benrussell-gough1201 Meditations
@@benrussell-gough1201 when you're so strong the Macedonian could do nothing but lick your boots
Ah Shit, Here We Go Again
If Rome was in GOT's universe, they would have taken both westeros and essos
@Lord Voldemort
well the Yi Ti is based of the Chinese Han Empire, which at its height was greater in expanse than the Roman empire. What's funny is they existed at the same time and they knew about each other albeit vaguely.
Rome would be able to conquer most of the medieval european nations too, and GOT nations are pretty much based on them. So it's not a big surprise.
@@brianhung6563 the Han sent an envoy to find Rome (they had heard of a mighty empire that was equal to their own, which it should be noted surprised them a lot) and make a trading alliance with them. The envoy reached the edge of the Parthian empire, but turned south instead of west. He was within 40 days march of Rome's eastern provinces but instead went along the Arabian peninsula to the Persian gulf where traders thought he wanted to go round Arabia or Africa to get to Rome and so told him it would take years. He turned and headed back to China when he heard this, some have speculated that it was the Parthians intentionally gave mis-information to prevent the two greatest empires of the time from contacting each other. Although apparently during the reign of Marcus Aurelius some Roman's reached what is now Vietnam and mapped the area, Roman glass, coins and other goods have also been found in China.
Rome would crush them both easily, the imperial army had around 350,000 men at its peak, this is not counting the thousands upon thousands of auxiliaries. Also they would be so wealthy in comparison that they could buy off most of the armies of Westeros and Essos without fighting at all.
They were the Valyrians which was basically the Roman Republic with Ghis being Carthage and the Ghiscari wars standing for the punic wars
This is better than Gladiator 2 just watched it.
From scenes set in ancient times to the ones in distant future - Ridley Scott can pull it all off perfectly…
Well up until Prometheus and Covenant, but you can't make 100% great films.
@@spaceman9599 Nothing wrong with Prometheus and Covenant in my opinion, but I agree that they are not up to the standard of Gladiator and Alien. But you're right, you can't make 100% great films. Mr Scott has set up the standards so high, that you can't expect 100% every time.