Director: I appreciate that you made the tiny subscribe button for the higher pitched bell. Good Work. I even notice you putting lands they announce onto the screen, this used to never happen on commander vs. Again nice nice
So you know, you actually don't have to exile 4 cards with nethergoyf. It just has to be any number of cards with 4 different types. So, a burnished heart would count as 2, and an urza's saga would be 2, and that's all you would have to exile to escape it.
@@nutellakinesisno I’ve played the deck, it’s a counter play but once your commander leaves your whole synergy falls apart and you get outclassed by every other strategy. The counters don’t leave the field which now causes your board to essentially become day night, a mechanic you now have to track the rest of the game that doesn’t have any impact unless you replay your commander, the counters should either leave field with the commander or not be called everything counters. Counters are supposed to be permanent additional effect given to a card on the battlefield.
@@garrettfarnam4567 this is such a weird hill to die on. What would you rather have them called? That’s just what they are. They are designed that way so you don’t lose your progress when you recast your commander. You’re still in simic and have simic ramp. It’s not like you can’t recast her when you want
Powerbalance does not let you just look at the top card on the trigger without revealing; you either reveal it or you don't. Also, the Wheel of Potential exiled off the Unstable Amulet was castable for the rest of the game since no other cards were exiled with the Amulet afterwards (the amulet doesn't have to be in play).
On the turn Stephen attacked with the sphinx token at Corey, he should have actually gained 10 energy and had 2 triggers to shoot for 5 somewhere. Each sphinx saw him gain 4 life which triggers to gain 4 energy twice. Both are replaced by the generator to gain +1, gaining him 5 then 5.
localized destruction gives creatures you control with power equal to the energy you paid indestructible. satya is 3 power not 4. only thing that would of survived is the sphinx. dont know if it would of made a difference or not.
It does not. The "Everything" counter remains on the land, but Omo is providing the characteristics for the counter to work. So with Omo gone, the counter does nothing to the card
Satya specifically creates tokens of *other* nontoken creatures. (Also, they're still legendary. So they'd die anyway.) Granted, this whole game had a myriad of missed triggers, but this one really impacted the ending.
did he make a copy of satya or another legend? as far as i can tell the 2 biggest missed things is that the tarmogoyf tokens DO have a cmc of 2(so ugin couldn't -0 to get rid of them), and when stephen gained life with the sphinxes in play he should've gained 10 energy instead of 5
Why not give Guide of Souls +2/+2 & flying and then keep the token around by paying 1 energy? Multiple times you could have looped this and steam rolled +2/+2 counters and energy off stacking their triggered ability when another creature etbs to get life & energy.
When Corey did 0 with ugin to get rid of the tokens, the only ones that would have been gotten rid of were the saprolings, since the tarmogofy tokens have a cmc of 2
Fun fact, wheel of potential is actually worded incorrectly and is awaiting an update. Feel free to look into this as well. The card states you get x energy however, does not say then you may pay x energy and draw x cards it just says draw x cards. So as of right now until the update, x can be any number the player wants for the draw x cards portion of this sorcery.
AAAAAAAAA It's infuriating that you still play like dinguses after doing this for a living for so many years. When Corey went "it has to be 4 cards" for the Nethergoyf I wanted to rip my eyes out. I know John is usually the cheatyface, but he for once wanted to play it correctly. He ballanced it out when he stated the goyf tokens have no mana cost though. Then the everything counter issue. There are 5 people in that room and I guess some more get to see the footage while editing - be better, at least acknowledge that you are misplaying and try to catch those misplays and make a conscious effort to play properly.
Did I miss something!? Localized destruction was for 4, meaning Satya would have died therefor negating that last lot of damage as he wouldn't have got an attack with Satya, wouldn't have got a clone of the sphinx and there for should of only done a fraction of the damage. I must have missed something no?
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@ 1:20:00 the Tarmogoyf tokens do have a mana value. its 2 just like the card.
I was going to say the same
He was using OG goyfs for funsies but the tokens that came with the deck don't have a mana value
@@GravePacked they do, it's printed on the bottom of the card that they have a mana cost of 1G
Aren't the Tarmogoyf tokens 2 cmc? Thats what it says at the bottom of the token. So you cant -0 ugin to get rid of them.
At 13:54 - stephen should actually get 3 energy there (even stronger synnergy with the flying!) since it says that many energy = combat damage
Mr Green short cut reads his cards too much 😂 #teamgreen 🎉
Director: I appreciate that you made the tiny subscribe button for the higher pitched bell. Good Work. I even notice you putting lands they announce onto the screen, this used to never happen on commander vs. Again nice nice
So you know, you actually don't have to exile 4 cards with nethergoyf. It just has to be any number of cards with 4 different types. So, a burnished heart would count as 2, and an urza's saga would be 2, and that's all you would have to exile to escape it.
Like the new thumbnail where you can see the commanders you’re playing! Much better
I thought the ruling was that if the commander that gives the everything counter was not on the board the counters do nothing
I came here to say that as well. Terrible design
Around 28:40 they mentioned they messed that up.
@@garrettfarnam4567 uh, no. If you’ve played the deck you’d know that if they were permanent things would get of hand very quickly
@@nutellakinesisno I’ve played the deck, it’s a counter play but once your commander leaves your whole synergy falls apart and you get outclassed by every other strategy. The counters don’t leave the field which now causes your board to essentially become day night, a mechanic you now have to track the rest of the game that doesn’t have any impact unless you replay your commander, the counters should either leave field with the commander or not be called everything counters. Counters are supposed to be permanent additional effect given to a card on the battlefield.
@@garrettfarnam4567 this is such a weird hill to die on. What would you rather have them called? That’s just what they are. They are designed that way so you don’t lose your progress when you recast your commander.
You’re still in simic and have simic ramp. It’s not like you can’t recast her when you want
Glad you guys brought back the Precon upgrades! Also first time I’ve ever seen an energy deck go off and win lol
This was great. Thanks guys!
Thank you , it was very fun to watch.
#Team Mr.Green
around 23:10 Urza's Mine is tapped for 2 but should only tap for 1 until the commander is back on the field and turns the everything counters back on.
ah, you guys caught it
29:45 "Mesa Sith Lord" needs to go in the Commander Vs Hall of Fame
Jeremy currently in 1st place!?! LETS FREAKING GO!!! 0:31
Aurora Shifter actually gives you energy based off the amount of damage. So when it gets bugged Mr. Green should have gained 3 energy
I love seeing Jeremy in the first place seat!!
He's doing great this season!
Powerbalance does not let you just look at the top card on the trigger without revealing; you either reveal it or you don't. Also, the Wheel of Potential exiled off the Unstable Amulet was castable for the rest of the game since no other cards were exiled with the Amulet afterwards (the amulet doesn't have to be in play).
On the turn Stephen attacked with the sphinx token at Corey, he should have actually gained 10 energy and had 2 triggers to shoot for 5 somewhere. Each sphinx saw him gain 4 life which triggers to gain 4 energy twice. Both are replaced by the generator to gain +1, gaining him 5 then 5.
came looking for this. its such a good card in this deck. prob my fav.
1:41:33 you can only make creatures with exactly 4 power indestructible so satya would have died there
Stephen impersonating a pterodactyl 19:55
Showing the Sphinx's Revelation instead of the Sphinx of Revelation had me really confused as to what the combo actually was haha
the title is wrong im pretty sure. this is the precon game not inalla, kykar, yuriko, breya
Good catch! Thanks for the heads up!
localized destruction gives creatures you control with power equal to the energy you paid indestructible. satya is 3 power not 4. only thing that would of survived is the sphinx. dont know if it would of made a difference or not.
Does the enchantment “All Will Be One” work with getting energy counters? Because if it does that could be a functional second copy of Aether Revolt
Yes it does.
Dang, Green has lands on top and then "has to shuffle them away cuz he saw them"
It’s a pleasant surprise when I remember that y’all make content.
Im here for it SG energy is such a cool mechanic and it finally works in commander
the tarmo tokens have a mv of 2. that's why Jon used real Tarmogoyf cards as tokens, I thought :D
Loving the content! Keep up the great work! Deathright salmon platmat ftw!
and here i was waiting for yuriko to show up
Maaaaybe you'll see it next episode 😄
With power balance, you don’t get to look, you either reveal or don’t, Stephen started off playing it correctly
Pyrogoyf can hit players with its effect right? Am I wrong
I love the balance of power in this game
Damn where can i get those dice? 😍😍
Does the land continue to be of all types even with the departure of Omo?
It does not. The "Everything" counter remains on the land, but Omo is providing the characteristics for the counter to work. So with Omo gone, the counter does nothing to the card
So Jeremy played it wrong
@@carlosreis8619 Yes. But I believe they caught it, though it didn't seem to matter for the game state
Satya specifically creates tokens of *other* nontoken creatures. (Also, they're still legendary. So they'd die anyway.) Granted, this whole game had a myriad of missed triggers, but this one really impacted the ending.
did he make a copy of satya or another legend? as far as i can tell the 2 biggest missed things is that the tarmogoyf tokens DO have a cmc of 2(so ugin couldn't -0 to get rid of them), and when stephen gained life with the sphinxes in play he should've gained 10 energy instead of 5
wait what set was the special guest field of the dead in?
Murders at Markov Manor
Hey, this isn't the first episode of the season, what's Jeremy doing in the red chair!?
The Tarmogoyf tokens have a cmc of 2
Why not give Guide of Souls +2/+2 & flying and then keep the token around by paying 1 energy? Multiple times you could have looped this and steam rolled +2/+2 counters and energy off stacking their triggered ability when another creature etbs to get life & energy.
Gluttonous hellkite is each other player so he didn't need to sac his tarmogoyf tokens
Technically, Steven shouldn't have kept the Sphinx the second time because it's 5 CMC not 4.
Ayo we're getting a Yuriko Episode soon 0-0
If Jon had the actual tokens he would know they do have a mana cost of 2 🤣
nethergoyf can at escape cost can be as low as 2 cards. cards needs to have 4 card typ. escape actually isnt looking at how many cards to exile,
“Fun eldrazi”
That’s pretty subjective.
Isnt kindered a card type towards gofy
Jk I just got to the point where they figured it out haha
17:10 Blue Player cheated he had blocked Green's Token...
When Corey did 0 with ugin to get rid of the tokens, the only ones that would have been gotten rid of were the saprolings, since the tarmogofy tokens have a cmc of 2
Didn't corey play a tribal sorcery?
Yes that that adds two card types
@@stevengunn3532 they didn't track it until the very end. The goyfs should have been stronger
@@kingvlad33 I think because they changed name so not easy to notice compared to tribal
Stephen has 15.5 points. He won and got first blood.
Stephen just said nah 😂
good haircuts, looking fresh
Fun fact, wheel of potential is actually worded incorrectly and is awaiting an update. Feel free to look into this as well. The card states you get x energy however, does not say then you may pay x energy and draw x cards it just says draw x cards. So as of right now until the update, x can be any number the player wants for the draw x cards portion of this sorcery.
I came for inalla and was baited into a precon game :(
Improved versions, at least.
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@48:57 say what?
yall might wanna edit this out lmao
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AAAAAAAAA It's infuriating that you still play like dinguses after doing this for a living for so many years. When Corey went "it has to be 4 cards" for the Nethergoyf I wanted to rip my eyes out. I know John is usually the cheatyface, but he for once wanted to play it correctly. He ballanced it out when he stated the goyf tokens have no mana cost though. Then the everything counter issue. There are 5 people in that room and I guess some more get to see the footage while editing - be better, at least acknowledge that you are misplaying and try to catch those misplays and make a conscious effort to play properly.
Dont go after the guy in 1st place that doesnt make since
This show is no fun anymore because every punk #ss player on her targets cory u all are sorry
Did I miss something!? Localized destruction was for 4, meaning Satya would have died therefor negating that last lot of damage as he wouldn't have got an attack with Satya, wouldn't have got a clone of the sphinx and there for should of only done a fraction of the damage. I must have missed something no?