Can't stand those belt clips. I've been trying out those spider tool holsters from Amazon for a few weeks now and I'm a big fan already. Easier to clip than the included belt clips, and no accidental drops.
I was approaching a stop light when it turned green and a pick-up truck in front of me took off. I heard a thump and stopped to find a bruised DeWalt 885. Picked it up, hit the trigger and it purred like a cat. That was 4 years ago and it has been used regularly and it still is working great. I love the DeWalt 885.
The cheapo DeWalt tools are garbage, it's immediately obvious if you use the both of them. I have, it's night and day. XR is always a solid option for any task while the brushed shit seems worse than the cheap brushed ryobis or at least about the same
I think this seems kind of biased too. The 885 is basically the equivalent of The black and decker version of the same tool. Also know that wouldn’t surprise me if they pre-drilled holes 885’s side. You pre-drilled a hole even if it’s small enough on the fastener to make it look like you’re not cheating it’s still going to go through faster than it should.
I’ve been using the 885 for years, besides the side rubber bumpers coming off (I’ve never seen one stay on) and a trillion love scratches it is still going strong. I wanted to retire it and get the 887, but instead I bought a new 885. I’m glad I did after watching this video. I might just get a new housing for the old one it a use it as a spare.
Great test, I've been wondering about this particular match-up. I have the 885 but I've seen a lot more 887s out there. I figured they'd be about the same. Keep it up guys.
DCF887 Brushless all the way! $10 is well worth the extra battery life I get from my 887 over my old 885. The brushless motor is way more battery saving than the brushed 885. I’ve done multiple tests my self running 4” deck screws all day at work and I can easily run 100+ more with the 887 vs the 885 with the same 4 or 5AH batteries. It’s a life saver if your up on a ladder and not needing to come down to swap batteries. Plus the 3 mode switch is great on the 887. Just my opinion.
That's it Gino, brushless gives you longer run times due to needing less energy to do a similar amount of work. Also the 887 (barring any engineering issues) should last longer than an 885. Really though as a pro are you going to wear the tools out before youre ready to upgrade, some do, some don't.
There's been a gas leak. It has been shut off the scent of gas is still detected You are told to board up the windows from the inside. Which one would you use?
How do you know, HOW MUCH DOWNWARD FORCE IS BEING PUT ON THE DRILLS, AND, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE DOWNWARD FORCE IS THE EXACT SAME ON EACH DRILL. Doing these tests that you did, the way that you did them, you can not know the answer to the two critical questions. You guys are probably excellent carpenters, but, terrible scientific testers. Please stick to what you know how to do best, which is obviously carpentry, not, scientific testing. Thank you guys.
The DCF887 mode 1 with the delayed impacts is a massive selling feature for me, gives so much control when sinking screws into wood (aka the screw doesn't end up a 1/4" into the wood)
The 12v xtreme has mode specifically made to avoid that, while still keeping that full speed. Dewalt needs to ax the 887 and make a 20v xr version of the the 12v xtreme.
@@juanc5149 I'm willing to bet when they do release a new 20v it will use the same settings. I do like the precision wrench on my 12v extreme impact wrench. Speed 1 on the 887 is nice for setting toilets as it is so slow you won't crack the porcelain and other delicate work pieces.
I have an 885 that was built in 2013. I probably bought it in 2014. I've never had an issue with it. I actually didn't even use it for years and years because I didn't even understand what impact drivers were and I thought this impact driver was too powerful for my applications so I just used the drill that came in the combo kit instead of the impact. I thought the impact was for driving nuts or something like with need for an extreme amount of RPM and torque. Then I got educated and experienced. I've never had a problem with it and I've used it at home and professionally.
I was going to get the 887 bare tool for about $130, but came across a sale for the 885 "kit" with the driver, the battery, a bag and an bit kit for $90 shipped. I jumped on that 885. I was just going to use it for home use, not heavy construction like I used to.
I have the DCF 885 and its actually really good. When I bought it at the time, there was a dewalt rep at that home depot and he told me the only difference between these two models is the brushless motor technology. The brushless motor creates no sparks and is perfect for work environments that are around combustible materials or fumes. As you can see it held up itself pretty well. The different speeds is really just a gimmick for people that can't finesse a variable trigger.
Yo, waiting for DeWalt to release a DCF987 to fix the issues with the 887. Even still, Milwaukee M18 Fuel Impact has a bad collet. For most DIYers would you go with a 887 or a bad collet M18 Fuel impact? I do like the 3 LEDs from the DeWalt impacts though.
For a DIYer I’d go with the platform that I’m already on. If I wasn’t on a platform, I’d go with the one most affordable and accommodates the work I’d be doing.
I have had the 885 for years when compared to the 887 the light is much brighter than mine and I've ran out of daylight screwing a tin roof on more than one occasion and wish I had the better light.
787 809 885 886 887 888 and the elusive 895 i know all my impacts Vince! track down a 895 and give us some thoughts compared to the 887 I think you'll like it
I'm no engineer but from what I've seen the problems that you all have had with the 887 maybe simple is better. At the end of the day if it's trouble free, does a good job at what it's supposed to and will pay for itself then that's all that matters.
I'm admittedly a huge Milwaukee nutswinger... but I have to admit that my very first cordless impact tool was a DeWalt 885, probably 7 or 8 years ago, and I still use it very frequently to this day. It has been super reliable and performs great. When it kicks the bucket, I will replace it with a Milwaukee only because the 885 is my only tool on a non-Milwaukee battery platform. I'm assuming Milwaukee will fix the collet issue in the Gen4 whenever it comes out.
I would first like to say thanks for all of the awesome work you guys do. I would also like to say that you guys actually got me to start using my impact driver, but to know that there is no real difference, between the 885 and 887, makes me happy. Been wondering if I needed to rebuy.
My stepbrother has the 887 I have the 885. 887 is a bit lighter and slightly more powerful but in use this power is hardly felt or even noticed. Half the time the 885 gets it done faster. How you use the tool had a much bigger impact *ba dum tiss* on the performance. The 887 has less weight density so it feels lighter in the hand although the weight difference is not that much in reality.
You didn't talk about the 3-speed gear box on the 887 and that's the real distinction IMHO. That gives more fine control at slow speed. I have the 885 and I like it fine. I don't care if it's 2 seconds faster or slower than the 887. I think I'd appreciate the fine tuning the 887's gear box affords but not enough to throw my 885 overboard.
Me and a family member are putting up a barn using rough cut oak lumber. I have the 885 he has the 887. I have no problem driving 3-1/2 in screws with the 885. But and this one is huge. When I have to back out one of those screws. The 885 3 out of 5 will not back them out. The 887 will back out all of them that we have to back out. So I went and got me a 887. Now I don’t have to grab for his anymore.
Ok I have 885. Came in two pack with variable drill. I am not sure when I should use my 885. Yep I am a lady! When does one use the impact 885? Found your videos the other day. I am really enjoying them thank you
When I bought my 885 I was pretty much lead to believe it was a bare bones version of the 887, without the bells and whistles. It's also about $100 cheaper than the 887 where I'm from, which was a huge part of why I bought it.
@Jack Braddell It is true that with a big crew $60,- is a lot. Even a $10,- difference could end up being a big saving. But if a big crew can keep on working longer without needing to come down from the roof to switch batteries as much, you have that earned back in a month or 2. Besides, if you buy in bulk you get a good discount and therefor the price would be better. That makes the difference smaller in total.
I run 4in screws, 6in oly log screws, and occasional 10in oly log screws in logs All day for 8months of the year with my dw887 with 2amp batteries (lighter). Gets hot sometimes but I let it run free for a minute between screws to cool. Hasn't smoked yet.
You’re funny Nick! Vince... love the referee part! VCG is awesome!!! Love your channel... please keep the videos coming and thanks again for the insight on these tool tests! Lots to think about and you and your team make it easy for us to make the right decision!!!
I think the sleeves they are wearing are made of different materials affecting wind resistance, aerodynamics, downward thrust and a difference of about 15 lumens of light on one side of the work space. Those are my scientific notes. :)
I own both and both work good but like I have said before in a diff vid my 887 had issues when I got it (used) ; had to thoroughly clean it to get er to run true. 885 has eaten all I've thrown at er without a hiccup.
I have both. Can easily tell the difference just by looking at it. The 887 is my go to mostly because of the speed selector. I also feel like my 887 has more torque then my 885. Was your 888 on the 3rd speed for this test?
I have both, and overall prefer the 885. While it is single speed you have a proven no fuss small impact driver. The 887 is a little more tame in mode 1 and has less tendancy to over drive small screws too deep. If you forget that the 887 has the mode selector ( or someone else picks it to to use) it can either over perform or underperform depending on what sppeed it is in.
I run the 885 and it’s a little beast, it gets put to the test everyday running 4 inch lag bolts and 1 inch paddle bits making holes to run wire. For the money I believe it’s dewalts best impact driver.
I have had both of them. I started with the 885 and it lasted for a couple of years before it died. The 887 didn't even make it 2 before it took a long walk off a short peer. If I had it to do over again I d stick with the 885. It proved itself to be tougher than it's newer counter part
I bought a 5 piece combo kit 3-4 years ago because of the hammer drill/driver, reciprocating saw, and circular saw....the impact(DCF 885) and light were just part of the combo. I NEVER used the impact until 10 months ago when I started my current job. I use a few sockets, but mostly just Philips #2 and #3 bits to assemble grills, log splitters, picnic tables, pellet smokers, large tool chests, etc. for a big box store(I'm a 3rd party contractor). I have dropped and knocked my DCF 885 of my assembly table countless times, landing on the concrete at every angle imaginable, and it has never flinched.
We have a TON of 20v platform tools, work as general contractors, and haven’t observed any noticeable difference in most of the dewalt models. With one serious exception....the 7-1/4” circular saw is substantially underpowered from our experience. Our new favorite is actually the 4-1/2” dewalt circular saw.
I couldn’t stop laughing I enjoy the tool reviews keep it coming I learn a lot stay blessed stay covered and super success and more for your family salute 🙏🏻
Thanks Vince. I would go brushed. Because a brushed tool is quicker and easier to repair. Brushless is all wired to its circuit board, So when the board blows that's the end of your tool. Stay brushed for sure.
Im also curious how ya like the atomic impact? I added a couple of the Atomic drill drivers to the work force a month ago because we were doing some gazebo and pergola display builds at Sams Clubs during open hours and I wanted to try a drill driver for its quieter operation, and it had sufficient torque while being much quieter then my 885 impacts. They actually worked pretty well as long as you were careful about the torque twist. And I really like how compact they are. One of my guys actually said he prefers using the drill driver over the impact. I dont agree with him on that personally, but when ya need a quiet driver it is much quieter then the impact. Haven't needed to upgrade my 885s yet still going strong and plenty of power for the building we do.
It functions, does what I need it to do, got it during the holiday sales. The 885 just seems built better to me, and is first tool put of the bag and on my belt
@@duncdunc76 I tend to always carry my hammerdrill with me, I like it for drilling and my impact for fastening. Easier for me to just switch tools then changing out bits but that's just my preference. If I'm just working on delicate work or electric I have sweats gyro screwdriver. But I don't have anything bad to say about the atomic but if your 885's are still running strong then I wouldn't bother.
Hi Vincent this is Michael from Australia thank you for your good advice about all dewalt products. I need to know is any other model in DCF 887 becouse i check on line impact driver DCF 887 N -xe, DCF M2-XE, DCF P2XE. Because as i watch your video in some those video you team member says never perches DCF 887.please let me know if still dcf 887 still is good to buy.
Been running an 885 for the past 3 years. Absolutely flawless. I also dropped it from the top of a 12' ladder last year. It fell onto a cement floor, striking the rear of rubberized part of the motor causing the rubber to deform a little. I figured it was a gonner, but it has never skipped a beat. It's like it never fell. Great video guys!
Thing is brushed motors are more powerful than brushless. What you get with brushless is technically the endurance per battery should be better AND the tool motor should last longer due to less mechanical wear and tear. So the performance isn't really hugely different, but longetivty of the tool IS a factor and it's really hard to test for that.
885 all the way! I have both 787 (single speed brushless) and 885. Gotta say I feel the 885 has a little more power, but I’d love to see a showdown between them. Love the channel!
I could tell the difference over molding is different on both back of the 887 brushless it's flat 3 speed the 885 is brushed is round in the back only has good comparison @vcg
I'm going to say I want to be the 1 one of the 5 !!! Top 20% of the gang😁😍😀maybe even 1 of 5 of the 20% because I don't want you to HURT yourself !!! Straining your Eyes looking for a difference. REMEDY = send 1 one to Branson Mo. so You're NOT seeing DOUBLE !!! Plus you can have Peace of mind knowing that it's in Good Hands and a Loving Home. As always Thanks for sharing your thoughts and videos, Rodney
I build heated & cooled cases for the foodservice industry. I'm driving 1/4 self-tappies through 1/8 ' steel all day...10 hours. The 887 is so awesome....I refuse to even CONSIDER another impact driver. Has never failed me. NEVER. 🗣I'm screwing hard🤘🏾
Great video - made me laugh but learned at the same time. Will be checking this channel out often. I started a crew last year with 887’s we work outside so they get exposed to all elements. The 887 hasn’t been as reliable as i would have liked compared to the 18v impacts we were running. Specifically with the LEDs shorting our and Speed 2 being intermittent. Speed 3 always seems to work. Enter 787. Almost identical specs as 887 Speed 2 little more simple design. And easier on the wallet. Bought a couple of those and will see how they last. Thanks again for funny but serious review!
Once again VCG you're gonna make it harder for me to make a decision (if I was actually going to get sumn besides Milwaukee!)? Seems to me with all the bells and whistles the 887 is dragging a lil bit, or is the 885 a more stout perfomer for not havn the b&w? Either way I guess it comes down to how feels in tne hand and how deep your pockets go.
I must be the 1 because I’m a big dewalt fan, yes there are a design difference you failed to point out the vent on top of the drills plus the XR model has a very cool slick out line on the handle but the brush one is plain
I also got this double set at Home Depot for Christmas, 12/2019, drill and driver 20v max cordless drill 2 batteries, 2 chargers and carrying bag all for $149.99 plus tax. Can't wait to try them out. Mine also does not have a battery level on it. CHEAPER Model. The 3 speed one is faster. Mine Does Not Say Made In the U S of A . If you take the battery out and look on the bottom of the tool it said : MADE IN CHINA ! SAD :-(
Larry Darryl and Darryl comparing tools. Dollar for Dollar Dewalt makes some of the best CORDED tools but when it comes to getting the best Brushless tools NOTHING, Nothing beats the Milwaukee Fuel M12, M18 PERIOD. Coming in a very close second and a little less expensive are the Makita 12v & 18v BL line. That statement has been proven many times in real world job sites and garages, most recently when the cable installer was trying to drill through a poured concrete column with his new Dewalt XR 20v Max Hammer Drill and was struggling big time, told him to hold on and I'll get you a real drill. Came back with my 3 year old Makita 18v BL Hammer Drill took the bit out of the Dewalt and punched through the remaining 6 inches faster than it took him with his Dewalt, wish you could have seen the look on his face oh and btw my Makita had some No Name 4.0 mh battery in it, pretty sure that cable guy returned his Dewalt and bought the Makita. My Milwaukee Fuel drills, impact drivers and wrenches are even better.
I do prefer brushless but after really thinking it over, brush powered motors have been getting it done since the dawn of electric motors. I have not personally noticed much of a difference “performance wise” or overall durability longevity etc. I own both brush and brushless models and I will honestly say the brushed tools are still working with no issues whatsoever. I will agree that brushless is more a gimmick than anything else.. To this day, I would still put some of my antique corded drills VS any battery powered drill in any race or power test there is. I have some older Montgomery Ward, Craftsman, Black and Decker etc that were all originally made in USA that still work like a dream! Older is better PERIOD!
Wood can have different structure even in 10 cm area. i am pretty sure you know that because you guys working with wood every day. Sometimes people use different piece of wood as well for test. If you dont believe me, test it. Take a 2x4 cut them 5 exact same pieces then put them on a measure. You will get different results. Not much, but still. Then take 5 different 2x5 from 5 different dealer or lumberyard and measure them by weight. You will surprise by the result. Age, location, branch, altitude, humidity level, grain structure can affect hardness, stiffness and so on, which also affects your tool. Sometimes the nail/screw goes in it like into butter, and another them you say "whoa... Whats this?"
I have the 887 and have no wobble at any speed ....maybe I'm lucky. I bought one back a few years ago 887 and it had the wobble so I returned it, that one was made in Mexico.
Yo @V.C.G I'm a trim carpenter in the Atlanta area. I know yall dont do much reviews on pneumatic nailers and I'm guessing its because obviously they're trusty, but like nick I'm a DeWalt diehard guy. But I'd like yalls input on pneumatic tools for all day use trim tools, miter saws, all the works for trim carpenters! Yalls suggestion maybe a trim carpenter specific episode or series of videos to help better my work in the industry. Thanks @VCG !!
I put a extra belt clip in. I put a battery to it and tested the 885 before I shipped it.
You da man Chad, thanks cuz!!
@@VCGConstruction love the 885 have 3 house, camper and garage.
Ya Thanks Chad for givin the VCG fellas some assistance in highlighting the awesomeness of the old trusty 885!
No smoke show with the 885 thats the difference lol
Can't stand those belt clips. I've been trying out those spider tool holsters from Amazon for a few weeks now and I'm a big fan already. Easier to clip than the included belt clips, and no accidental drops.
I was approaching a stop light when it turned green and a pick-up truck in front of me took off. I heard a thump and stopped to find a bruised DeWalt 885. Picked it up, hit the trigger and it purred like a cat. That was 4 years ago and it has been used regularly and it still is working great. I love the DeWalt 885.
I'm the 1/5. All Dewalt brushless tools have yellow within the handle while brushed tools are solid black handle.
Nice observation. I usually tell from the rounded or flat back, of course that only works for drills and impacts.
The cheapo DeWalt tools are garbage, it's immediately obvious if you use the both of them. I have, it's night and day. XR is always a solid option for any task while the brushed shit seems worse than the cheap brushed ryobis or at least about the same
Same, can spot XR a mile away.
I rock an 885 and my coworkers with 887 bust my balls about not having the same power....guess who's watching this video tomorrow..
well, yea on speed 2 these are almost identical
on speed 3 he will win every time
I've used my 885 for over three years now. Still going strong even with vanon batteries. Now I got two 885's.
That's great but if you buy the 887 and use it for a few months then go back to the 885 you won't like it anymore.
Been rockin my 885 since 2014. 5-6 days a week. Never missed a beat. Love my Dewalts.
Agreed
A quick internet search shows the difference in price at about $60 in case anyone is wondering.
This was bad testing. Mike was covering the motor vent holes and pushing down hard on the tool, which can both effect performance. Sorry, redo!
I think this seems kind of biased too. The 885 is basically the equivalent of The black and decker version of the same tool. Also know that wouldn’t surprise me if they pre-drilled holes 885’s side. You pre-drilled a hole even if it’s small enough on the fastener to make it look like you’re not cheating it’s still going to go through faster than it should.
I’ve been using the 885 for years, besides the side rubber bumpers coming off (I’ve never seen one stay on) and a trillion love scratches it is still going strong. I wanted to retire it and get the 887, but instead I bought a new 885. I’m glad I did after watching this video. I might just get a new housing for the old one it a use it as a spare.
Moral of the video here is it’s not the drill it’s the worker
Can easily tell them apart. 887 all day.
Have three 885's the oldest being about 5 years old. They work so well that I never felt the need to upgrade to the brushless tools.
"Global materials" = Chinesium
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Can't find a cordless tool that doesn't contain monstly Chinesium components.
Great test, I've been wondering about this particular match-up. I have the 885 but I've seen a lot more 887s out there. I figured they'd be about the same. Keep it up guys.
DCF887 Brushless all the way! $10 is well worth the extra battery life I get from my 887 over my old 885. The brushless motor is way more battery saving than the brushed 885. I’ve done multiple tests my self running 4” deck screws all day at work and I can easily run 100+ more with the 887 vs the 885 with the same 4 or 5AH batteries. It’s a life saver if your up on a ladder and not needing to come down to swap batteries. Plus the 3 mode switch is great on the 887. Just my opinion.
Good feedback Gino, we appreciate it!
That's it Gino, brushless gives you longer run times due to needing less energy to do a similar amount of work. Also the 887 (barring any engineering issues) should last longer than an 885. Really though as a pro are you going to wear the tools out before youre ready to upgrade, some do, some don't.
$10? They're about $100 difference here.
There's been a gas leak. It has been shut off the scent of gas is still detected You are told to board up the windows from the inside. Which one would you use?
The Makita XDT14
But the 885 is a very great impact
How do you know, HOW MUCH DOWNWARD FORCE IS BEING PUT ON THE DRILLS, AND, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE DOWNWARD FORCE IS THE EXACT SAME ON EACH DRILL. Doing these tests that you did, the way that you did them, you can not know the answer to the two critical questions. You guys are probably excellent carpenters, but, terrible scientific testers. Please stick to what you know how to do best, which is obviously carpentry, not, scientific testing. Thank you guys.
The DCF887 mode 1 with the delayed impacts is a massive selling feature for me, gives so much control when sinking screws into wood (aka the screw doesn't end up a 1/4" into the wood)
Cool, thanks for the feedback
Thats a good selling point for sure.
The 12v xtreme has mode specifically made to avoid that, while still keeping that full speed. Dewalt needs to ax the 887 and make a 20v xr version of the the 12v xtreme.
@@juanc5149 I'm willing to bet when they do release a new 20v it will use the same settings. I do like the precision wrench on my 12v extreme impact wrench. Speed 1 on the 887 is nice for setting toilets as it is so slow you won't crack the porcelain and other delicate work pieces.
Out of all the selective speed impacts the 887 is probably the worst.
What I learned from this video is that is not the tool. But, the person using the tool.
I have an 885 that was built in 2013. I probably bought it in 2014. I've never had an issue with it. I actually didn't even use it for years and years because I didn't even understand what impact drivers were and I thought this impact driver was too powerful for my applications so I just used the drill that came in the combo kit instead of the impact. I thought the impact was for driving nuts or something like with need for an extreme amount of RPM and torque. Then I got educated and experienced. I've never had a problem with it and I've used it at home and professionally.
I was going to get the 887 bare tool for about $130, but came across a sale for the 885 "kit" with the driver, the battery, a bag and an bit kit for $90 shipped. I jumped on that 885. I was just going to use it for home use, not heavy construction like I used to.
I have the DCF 885 and its actually really good. When I bought it at the time, there was a dewalt rep at that home depot and he told me the only difference between these two models is the brushless motor technology. The brushless motor creates no sparks and is perfect for work environments that are around combustible materials or fumes. As you can see it held up itself pretty well. The different speeds is really just a gimmick for people that can't finesse a variable trigger.
Yo, waiting for DeWalt to release a DCF987 to fix the issues with the 887. Even still, Milwaukee M18 Fuel Impact has a bad collet. For most DIYers would you go with a 887 or a bad collet M18 Fuel impact? I do like the 3 LEDs from the DeWalt impacts though.
For a DIYer I’d go with the platform that I’m already on. If I wasn’t on a platform, I’d go with the one most affordable and accommodates the work I’d be doing.
The heat was from dad covering up the vent holes..
I have had the 885 for years when compared to the 887 the light is much brighter than mine and I've ran out of daylight screwing a tin roof on more than one occasion and wish I had the better light.
Hope you all are having a good Tuesday evening, VCG and The Gang! Good job, guys👍🧰👍
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Vince! track down a 895 and give us some thoughts compared to the 887
I think you'll like it
On a cold day I wrap my hands around my 885 when using it. Great hand warmer!
I'm am 885 owner and couldn't be happier with it. It's run thousands of fasteners and never complained. Great impact.
The 3 speed on the 887 is my choice, being able to control something that you don't need all that RPM is nice!
This is why I chose the 887. Worth the fiery risk
I love being able to drop down to 1 settimg when running in soft where I don't want it to drive too deep. Def worth the money imo.
The trigger controls the speed by how much u pull it on the 886
@@brandonmurphy4657 every drill/impact does that. The 3 speed selector switch makes it so you are limited on how many max RPMs you can have.
I know I so t see the big deal about the three speed
I'm no engineer but from what I've seen the problems that you all have had with the 887 maybe simple is better. At the end of the day if it's trouble free, does a good job at what it's supposed to and will pay for itself then that's all that matters.
I'm admittedly a huge Milwaukee nutswinger... but I have to admit that my very first cordless impact tool was a DeWalt 885, probably 7 or 8 years ago, and I still use it very frequently to this day. It has been super reliable and performs great. When it kicks the bucket, I will replace it with a Milwaukee only because the 885 is my only tool on a non-Milwaukee battery platform. I'm assuming Milwaukee will fix the collet issue in the Gen4 whenever it comes out.
My first impact driver was a hyper tough but after falling in love I quickly (2 weeks later) bought my very first REAL impact driver the 885.
I would first like to say thanks for all of the awesome work you guys do. I would also like to say that you guys actually got me to start using my impact driver, but to know that there is no real difference, between the 885 and 887, makes me happy. Been wondering if I needed to rebuy.
My stepbrother has the 887 I have the 885. 887 is a bit lighter and slightly more powerful but in use this power is hardly felt or even noticed. Half the time the 885 gets it done faster. How you use the tool had a much bigger impact *ba dum tiss* on the performance. The 887 has less weight density so it feels lighter in the hand although the weight difference is not that much in reality.
You didn't talk about the 3-speed gear box on the 887 and that's the real distinction IMHO. That gives more fine control at slow speed. I have the 885 and I like it fine. I don't care if it's 2 seconds faster or slower than the 887. I think I'd appreciate the fine tuning the 887's gear box affords but not enough to throw my 885 overboard.
Me and a family member are putting up a barn using rough cut oak lumber. I have the 885 he has the 887. I have no problem driving 3-1/2 in screws with the 885. But and this one is huge. When I have to back out one of those screws. The 885 3 out of 5 will not back them out. The 887 will back out all of them that we have to back out. So I went and got me a 887. Now I don’t have to grab for his anymore.
Ok I have 885. Came in two pack with variable drill. I am not sure when I should use my 885. Yep I am a lady! When does one use the impact 885?
Found your videos the other day. I am really enjoying them thank you
Is that old guy this dad lol and he pushing that thing so hard while the 885 is not even being pushed
Sometimes it's not the tool but the user. But I love my dewalt xr brushless, the whole line of them.
Maybe they should have switched the tool to the other guy in between tests.
VCG is the only reason i can tell the difference between these two. learned a lot from you guys keep it up
Thanks Lavon, we appreciate it!
When I bought my 885 I was pretty much lead to believe it was a bare bones version of the 887, without the bells and whistles.
It's also about $100 cheaper than the 887 where I'm from, which was a huge part of why I bought it.
I used my roofing neighbor 885 the other weekend. It was a great tool. I definitely endorse it
Definitely can tell them apart
@Jack Braddell It is true that with a big crew $60,- is a lot. Even a $10,- difference could end up being a big saving. But if a big crew can keep on working longer without needing to come down from the roof to switch batteries as much, you have that earned back in a month or 2. Besides, if you buy in bulk you get a good discount and therefor the price would be better. That makes the difference smaller in total.
I run 4in screws, 6in oly log screws, and occasional 10in oly log screws in logs All day for 8months of the year with my dw887 with 2amp batteries (lighter). Gets hot sometimes but I let it run free for a minute between screws to cool. Hasn't smoked yet.
Good move letting it free run to cool it down! Glad it’s working well for you! 👍🏻
I’m 4 out of five that’s y I’m watching ha but I bought the 885 in a kit not a bad purchase I would say
You’re funny Nick! Vince... love the referee part! VCG is awesome!!! Love your channel... please keep the videos coming and thanks again for the insight on these tool tests! Lots to think about and you and your team make it easy for us to make the right decision!!!
Thanks Robert, we appreciate it!
I think the sleeves they are wearing are made of different materials affecting wind resistance, aerodynamics, downward thrust and a difference of about 15 lumens of light on one side of the work space. Those are my scientific notes. :)
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I own both and both work good but like I have said before in a diff vid my 887 had issues when I got it (used) ; had to thoroughly clean it to get er to run true. 885 has eaten all I've thrown at er without a hiccup.
Aren't the brushless tools supposed to last longer, in general? Plus no brushes to wear out
Love my 885, never an issue with it.
I have both. Can easily tell the difference just by looking at it. The 887 is my go to mostly because of the speed selector. I also feel like my 887 has more torque then my 885. Was your 888 on the 3rd speed for this test?
I own the 887 and it's never let me down maybe I got lucky and got one with no flaws
I have both, and overall prefer the 885.
While it is single speed you have a proven no fuss small impact driver. The 887 is a little more tame in mode 1 and has less tendancy to over drive small screws too deep. If you forget that the 887 has the mode selector ( or someone else picks it to to use) it can either over perform or underperform depending on what sppeed it is in.
I run the 885 and it’s a little beast, it gets put to the test everyday running 4 inch lag bolts and 1 inch paddle bits making holes to run wire. For the money I believe it’s dewalts best impact driver.
I have had both of them. I started with the 885 and it lasted for a couple of years before it died. The 887 didn't even make it 2 before it took a long walk off a short peer. If I had it to do over again I d stick with the 885. It proved itself to be tougher than it's newer counter part
I'd pick the 887 due to nicer handle/grip and 3 speed.....oh wait, I do have the 887 currently already
its funny that no company marked on their tools as brushed lol
🤣🤣 good point!
That's not funny the brushed 2 brushless was a serious change in design. Brush design has been implemented 4 100 years
Hi if I get the "885" or 887
I would use it just for working on Vehicles fast motor work
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That was very informative. I have the 885 and thinking about upgrading but now I'm not. Also I'm 1 out 5
I bought a 5 piece combo kit 3-4 years ago because of the hammer drill/driver, reciprocating saw, and circular saw....the impact(DCF 885) and light were just part of the combo. I NEVER used the impact until 10 months ago when I started my current job. I use a few sockets, but mostly just Philips #2 and #3 bits to assemble grills, log splitters, picnic tables, pellet smokers, large tool chests, etc. for a big box store(I'm a 3rd party contractor). I have dropped and knocked my DCF 885 of my assembly table countless times, landing on the concrete at every angle imaginable, and it has never flinched.
i have had a 885 for 2 years and it is flawless
Me too ,but I think I'm gonna get the brushless just to get it. My dewalt 885 also has been flawless
@@wesleythompson7 Sounds like a good plan
We have a TON of 20v platform tools, work as general contractors, and haven’t observed any noticeable difference in most of the dewalt models. With one serious exception....the 7-1/4” circular saw is substantially underpowered from our experience. Our new favorite is actually the 4-1/2” dewalt circular saw.
Have both, do like my brushed and at least it's repairable.
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885 or nothing! Plus it matches me karate gi.
Thanks Vince. I would go brushed. Because a brushed tool is quicker and easier to repair. Brushless is all wired to its circuit board, So when the board blows that's the end of your tool. Stay brushed for sure.
Hahaha!
Brushless makes the battery last longer
I finally upgraded my 885 finally to the atomic, yea I still use my 885
Do you like the Atomic?
Im also curious how ya like the atomic impact? I added a couple of the Atomic drill drivers to the work force a month ago because we were doing some gazebo and pergola display builds at Sams Clubs during open hours and I wanted to try a drill driver for its quieter operation, and it had sufficient torque while being much quieter then my 885 impacts. They actually worked pretty well as long as you were careful about the torque twist. And I really like how compact they are. One of my guys actually said he prefers using the drill driver over the impact. I dont agree with him on that personally, but when ya need a quiet driver it is much quieter then the impact. Haven't needed to upgrade my 885s yet still going strong and plenty of power for the building we do.
It functions, does what I need it to do, got it during the holiday sales. The 885 just seems built better to me, and is first tool put of the bag and on my belt
@@mattg4294 Pretty much my thoughts on the atomic series as well 👍
@@duncdunc76 I tend to always carry my hammerdrill with me, I like it for drilling and my impact for fastening. Easier for me to just switch tools then changing out bits but that's just my preference. If I'm just working on delicate work or electric I have sweats gyro screwdriver. But I don't have anything bad to say about the atomic but if your 885's are still running strong then I wouldn't bother.
Hi Vincent this is Michael from Australia thank you for your good advice about all dewalt products. I need to know is any other model in DCF 887 becouse i check on line impact driver DCF 887 N -xe, DCF M2-XE, DCF P2XE. Because as i watch your video in some those video you team member says never perches DCF 887.please let me know if still dcf 887 still is good to buy.
I’d watch more of our content on the 887, then make up your mind
Thanks vince not really big fan of dewalt or brushed tools but the 885 is 1 to have out of these impacts
Been running an 885 for the past 3 years. Absolutely flawless. I also dropped it from the top of a 12' ladder last year. It fell onto a cement floor, striking the rear of rubberized part of the motor causing the rubber to deform a little. I figured it was a gonner, but it has never skipped a beat. It's like it never fell.
Great video guys!
Thanks Greg, we appreciate it!
I wouldn’t be surprised if it ran better after, old reliable!
Nick is whipping ass the experience fast person win
Thing is brushed motors are more powerful than brushless. What you get with brushless is technically the endurance per battery should be better AND the tool motor should last longer due to less mechanical wear and tear. So the performance isn't really hugely different, but longetivty of the tool IS a factor and it's really hard to test for that.
885 all the way! I have both 787 (single speed brushless) and 885. Gotta say I feel the 885 has a little more power, but I’d love to see a showdown between them. Love the channel!
The 5 amp battery 🔋 makes the dcf885 more powerful. I use my 6.0 amp , I feel a little bit more power , and a long run 🏃♀️ time .
I’ve got a half dozen of each of these. I can’t tell a difference
DVR Construction I'm about to order one. I recently moved from Bosch to Dewalt. Which do u recommend: the 885, 887 or 877? Thanks!
Noam Sigal if it’s for around the house, or I’d say medium usage. I’d honestly save a few bucks and go with the 885. It’s a nice brushed tool.
Wow!🤔hmmmmmm. I own the 887. I'm not a contractor. I work in the health field, so I don't get much use out of it.What problems have been reported.
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Brushed motors in general seem to have more torque. Brush less motors have better battery life and tool life in general.
Derek Athey at same size a brushless motor will have more torque because there is no friction from the brushes
I could tell the difference over molding is different on both back of the 887 brushless it's flat 3 speed the 885 is brushed is round in the back only has good comparison @vcg
Thanks Thomas!
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I build heated & cooled cases for the foodservice industry. I'm driving 1/4 self-tappies through 1/8 ' steel all day...10 hours. The 887 is so awesome....I refuse to even CONSIDER another impact driver. Has never failed me. NEVER. 🗣I'm screwing hard🤘🏾
The guy in the red seems to be going in at a bit of an angle, the other guy seems to be going in straight down, I think thats the major difference.
I seen that online at home depot there's a dewalt 888 impact driver 3 speed I would like to see if it's better than the 887
Great video - made me laugh but learned at the same time. Will be checking this channel out often.
I started a crew last year with 887’s we work outside so they get exposed to all elements. The 887 hasn’t been as reliable as i would have liked compared to the 18v impacts we were running. Specifically with the LEDs shorting our and Speed 2 being intermittent. Speed 3 always seems to work. Enter 787. Almost identical specs as 887 Speed 2 little more simple design. And easier on the wallet. Bought a couple of those and will see how they last. Thanks again for funny but serious review!
Any problems with the 787’s?
Once again VCG you're gonna make it harder for me to make a decision (if I was actually going to get sumn besides Milwaukee!)? Seems to me with all the bells and whistles the 887 is dragging a lil bit, or is the 885 a more stout perfomer for not havn the b&w? Either way I guess it comes down to how feels in tne hand and how deep your pockets go.
Sorry Gregg!
I run the 885 for the last year most used impact driver in my shop no problems
Legend says they are still running the tests just one more time to this very day
885 is rounded on the back 887 is flat on back I have 887
Love my 885 works rly good!
I must be the 1 because I’m a big dewalt fan, yes there are a design difference you failed to point out the vent on top of the drills plus the XR model has a very cool slick out line on the handle but the brush one is plain
I also got this double set at Home Depot for Christmas, 12/2019, drill and driver 20v max cordless drill 2 batteries, 2 chargers and carrying bag all for $149.99 plus tax. Can't wait to try them out. Mine also does not have a battery level on it. CHEAPER Model. The 3 speed one is faster. Mine Does Not Say Made In the U S of A . If you take the battery out and look on the bottom of the tool it said : MADE IN CHINA ! SAD :-(
I just buy the 888 few days ago
I’ve been wanting to see the 885 up against other impacts!!!!
Larry Darryl and Darryl comparing tools. Dollar for Dollar Dewalt makes some of the best CORDED tools but when it comes to getting the best Brushless tools NOTHING, Nothing beats the Milwaukee Fuel M12, M18 PERIOD. Coming in a very close second and a little less expensive are the Makita 12v & 18v BL line. That statement has been proven many times in real world job sites and garages, most recently when the cable installer was trying to drill through a poured concrete column with his new Dewalt XR 20v Max Hammer Drill and was struggling big time, told him to hold on and I'll get you a real drill. Came back with my 3 year old Makita 18v BL Hammer Drill took the bit out of the Dewalt and punched through the remaining 6 inches faster than it took him with his Dewalt, wish you could have seen the look on his face oh and btw my Makita had some No Name 4.0 mh battery in it, pretty sure that cable guy returned his Dewalt and bought the Makita. My Milwaukee Fuel drills, impact drivers and wrenches are even better.
I do prefer brushless but after really thinking it over, brush powered motors have been getting it done since the dawn of electric motors. I have not personally noticed much of a difference “performance wise” or overall durability longevity etc. I own both brush and brushless models and I will honestly say the brushed tools are still working with no issues whatsoever. I will agree that brushless is more a gimmick than anything else.. To this day, I would still put some of my antique corded drills VS any battery powered drill in any race or power test there is. I have some older Montgomery Ward, Craftsman, Black and Decker etc that were all originally made in USA that still work like a dream! Older is better PERIOD!
I haven’t seen the 885 go up in smoke like the 887 is that a difference some may haven’t seen
Wood can have different structure even in 10 cm area. i am pretty sure you know that because you guys working with wood every day.
Sometimes people use different piece of wood as well for test. If you dont believe me, test it. Take a 2x4 cut them 5 exact same pieces then put them on a measure. You will get different results. Not much, but still. Then take 5 different 2x5 from 5 different dealer or lumberyard and measure them by weight. You will surprise by the result. Age, location, branch, altitude, humidity level, grain structure can affect hardness, stiffness and so on, which also affects your tool. Sometimes the nail/screw goes in it like into butter, and another them you say "whoa... Whats this?"
The ol' Brushy version has the better "no wobble" collett. 👍
It also rotates slower. If you put it on speed 2 the wobble is identical.
you want no wobble, get yourself a 895
I have the 887 and have no wobble at any speed ....maybe I'm lucky. I bought one back a few years ago 887 and it had the wobble so I returned it, that one was made in Mexico.
Yo @V.C.G I'm a trim carpenter in the Atlanta area. I know yall dont do much reviews on pneumatic nailers and I'm guessing its because obviously they're trusty, but like nick I'm a DeWalt diehard guy. But I'd like yalls input on pneumatic tools for all day use trim tools, miter saws, all the works for trim carpenters! Yalls suggestion maybe a trim carpenter specific episode or series of videos to help better my work in the industry. Thanks @VCG !!