It has become the norm for all car companies to entice us with the add on packages and pay top top dollar for a car. This is why I’m still sticking with my 10-year-old ES 350 with the V6
that is a big negative. It may have the better Touque take off, due to the battery, but in the end, the auto transmission and turbo engine will win the 0-60 time!
Bought my wife a 2024 NX350h in April 2023, base version will a few essential options for her like power rear trunk door, heated steering wheel and moonroof…….She is ok with the smaller screen and I am definitely ok with the 18 inches (cheaper to replace down the road and rides better). Paid $46.6k plus tax fee (MSRP and no add ons). Just hit 7k miles as of today.
@@chibbyylol 38-40 in the summer if she drives, 34-5 if I drive. Winter a little less due to lower temperature and engine runs a little longer. Highway if you keep it under 70, as least 35. I am so impressed that I am now waiting for the new redesign 2025-26 ES hybrid to replace my 2017 ES350 V6. If the new design is not my cup of tea, I am going Tesla Model S or Lucid Air Pure.
@@gosman949 I have a 2017 ES350 with the V6. As soon as the new gen ES hybrid comes out I will get rid of the 350, 20MPG average won’t cut it anymore for me. The new ES hybrid will get at least double that.
Nice to see all that red interior supplanted by less garish, non headache inducing colors. Since we bought our Lexus 3.5 yrs ago, the NX has gone up regularly. The UX, if you're single, or a couple, is looking good at $6000 less. And why we bought the UX in 2020.
@@CarsandTechInfo If you want a, one car does all, you better pony up. At $32k it is perfect for our retired Navy daughter. And she is nobody's chauffeur!!!🤣
Any news for Lexus ES 300h faceLift? Subscribe and been waiting for this news from your channel lol. Wanted to buy ES300h Ultra luxury but waiting for new facelift news.
Oh wow, I might just check out the NX for an upgrade. Just love that copper crest, but it would be hard to get my service dog in and out of the back seat w those doors that don't open 90 degrees. Thanks for the updates, Kirk!
Kirk, With any Lexus or Toyota vehicle, the 'best deal' is always the base Hybrid with AWD. 😉 I can't wait for your NX vs RX vs Signia video later this year. 🤩🤩🤩🤩
And throw in the Santa Fe Hybrid? It appears to have a 17+ gallon tank, which gives it a 600+ mile range on paper By the way, 600+ mile ranges should be the standard for hybrids... hybrids should be sticking it to EVs!
In Canada the 2025 NX450h+ does come with the full panoramic moonroof in both the FSport handling and Executive packages however only the Executive package has the Mark Levinson sound system.
I disagree. I think the 2.4l turbo is right at home in the NX to those that don't want the 2.5 and a hybrid it. It sounds better than the other two too
@@KirkKreifelshowever, if you look at the 2025 spec sheet, it does say available on the FSport handling and doesn't say only 350. So that could mean the ML is available on the 450h+ FS as well. You can see that they did have an item in the alloy wheels where it says 450h+ only. Will need to wait till the configurator is available, but from the specs sheet, pano roof and ML should be available on the PHEVs.
@@lsftTo bad honest I'd rather the 2025 450h+ don't have pano roof and ML available. For existing owners like us, future models not having these features keep our old 450H+ more competitive in the seller's market LOL. Besides, what happened to the weight issue? All of a sudden its a non-issue now? What did they take away in order to have the pano roof + ML weight added?
@@epcdasilent I believe the ML and panoroof are options and not standard in the US. In Canada, I believe the pano roof is standard, but only the non-fsport gets the ML. I know what you mean. I've already lost out on the Advanced Park in my NX450FS. Now Panoroof and possibility ML. I guess that's what I get for not having to wait a few years and it depends how long you plan to drive the NX450h+. For me I plan to drive it for at least 10 years. There is an disadvantage with the pano roof since you lose some head room and it's a bit obvious for folks who are a bit taller. At this point my F Sport won't get ML yet... Not sure if the US will get it or not - I think the F-Sport won't.
@@Quinton0520 a hybrid is more advanced.... . But if you mean onboardctech, probably correct. That said, regarding build quality, fit and finish, materials interior. A lexus is far ahead of any former German premium brand, certainly Mercedes......
@@avdp9095 this thing is made in Canada it has no fit in finish! Every luxury car I have been in had better fit and finish Volvo, Lincoln BMW, etc. The only thing Lexus has is better reliability that’s it.
@@mrgurulittle7000 agreed. Naveen always says ls will get killed off while been hypocritical and forgetful that even the cars like g90 g80 and g70 are selling very badly .
2025 nx is better than ever and miles better than any gv70 rdx and more.❤ Obviously naveenthemachine and his tiny micro group of haters will try to post some bullshit .😂
I 10000% disagree, ppl in my country used to love Lexus but if you see the streets & the showrooms Genesis won them over very easily because Lexus allowed them by being so cheap in their features in a supposedly luxurious car
How is it a "gazillion times" better? The GV70 caters more to people who want a better blend of performance & luxury with the 2.5L turbo-4 with more HP & torque, a better 0-60 time, & a nicer interior depending on the trim or package. Plus the GV70 offers a 3.5T, a Nappa leather interior, rear seats that recline more, rear manual window sunshades, a separate climate zone for the second row, the Blind Spot View Monitor tech, & other great features. The GV70 is on a RWD-based AWD platform
@@CarsandTechInfoSorry but your list of bells and whistles just isn’t cutting it. All the boomers (aka the majority of people still able to afford a premium car) who look for a premium car don’t need RWD, in fact they prefer less performance and more comfort and practicality. That’s why Lexus sells a whole ton more than Genesis. Genesis pivoted themselves directly against the Germans, but we all know it’s just a dressed up Hyundai in the end.
I really liked the NX and was hoping to get one. I was cross shopping it with the Mazda CX 50/CX five. I ended up getting the CX 50 because the trim I got that had the features that I wanted would’ve made the NX over $12,000 more Than the Mazda!
After the Nx came out I once cross shopped an nx350 and 450h+ against my v6 Camry XSE and the Camry quite simply blew the nx out of the water in every single comparable way Even I was shocked that a Camry XSE v6 was a nicer more refined and more luxurious vehicle than the nx.
@@occckid123 cared more about features like AWD, reliability, price, engine, brand. I'm sure not the only one and my point was that newer Mazdas are starting to being compared with Lexus' more often than ever before.
I am a Canadian in Taiwan, and I am on the cusp of buying a 2025 NX 350h. I am feeling apprehensive about pulling the trigger because I worry that the 2026 or 2027 NX might be significantly revised or improved. Any thoughts?
Hi kirk. I have live in Korea. I want to buy es300h. There are 3 trims es have luxury+, executive and f sport. I am between luxury+ and executive. Biggest difference between them performance damper. I have searching about it but couldn't find enough info. I know what is it but i wonder is it really worth? Do u have any experience with performance damper or without it? Pls help me! Should i pay extra 5k for executive?
I will stick with my 2023 Toyota Venza which comes with a spare tire and no run flats. I really don’t need the Lexus badge on my vehicle to own a nice vehicle. That’s just my choice but the NX is a great vehicle.
Venza's center stack and console design is impractical... Lexus NX is a lot better in this department that plus a year longer warranty, etc would make me choose an NX350h built in Japan (not all are built in Canada!)
Lexus has become too expensive, cars in general too, but with the RX you get less(4 cyl) and you pay more, im out, love my slightly used BMW X5 inline 6 which is no 1 on CR
Test drove one a couple of months ago, quality is not there any more, mirror shakes when shutting the door, chassis still feels solid and tight, but you can just tell some parts aren't screwed as well together as before. Biggest let down is probably the Mark Levinson sound system, which is still great on Japan made higher end models, but at best average if not slightly below. There are tons of them for sale. I guess this is what happens when you move production domestically...
I don't see many of the current NX where I live. Majority are the first generation. Overpriced,too small,Lexus is unaffordable to younger buyers. Old buyers want the RX,GX models.
Fantastic information! These new prices further convince me that the NX is more than I want to pay. A 350 Luxury with all of the options and packages plus tax and license totals $60K! For a Lexus NX?! 🤔I think Toyota is starting to gouge customers with pruduction shortages and price increase.
@@BoldBrandFlakes who ever keeps cars that long these days? Plus they have a long warranty. Oh and I know this other thing is hard for you to understand but I’ll explain it: take care of the car and keep up it’s routine maintenance and it’ll take good care of you
@naveenthemachine 😂😂.NX is a excellent luxury suv and liked by everyone.fact is you are just a serial hater who post bullshit comments to get a kick or some reason to live . 😂
@@artieartya no the nx is still old. Even with a redesign. In the most competitive market the nx just isn’t that competitive especially when compared to better executed competitors from genesis Hyundai Kia Acura Lincoln Mazda BMW Audi Volvo etc
Save 10k and go with the UX. The NX is not much bigger and is actually SMALLER in the front seats than the UX. The NX is kind of a car that shouldn’t exist in the lineup in my opinion
😂. Naveenthemachine . Nx looks feels drive and everything else is different from what it based on and loved by everyone .so your opinion dont matter .. you are just a person with no life or anything but posting these comments to get attention because you dont get any in your life. So shut up and try to get some brains.😂
@@mylifeislegendary942 no it doesn’t. I’ve driven both a RAV4 and nx. They drive exactly the same Drive a tuscon or CRV and drive an RDX or gv70 and they drive differently
@@naveenthemachine first of all you have not driven anything and gta 5 dont count as driven. They dont drive the same and you once again proving my point .you are know nothing but just a serial hater with brains of a donkey .so get fucked and get a life.
It has become the norm for all car companies to entice us with the add on packages and pay top top dollar for a car. This is why I’m still sticking with my 10-year-old ES 350 with the V6
Shocking they want to charge money for features.
@@FeLiX13sLaVeoh I know I’ll include a dashboard hula dancer for $85,000.
Ayeee me too boss
keeping my 2007 Camry with that marvelous 6 cylinder that has gone away! RIP to the six!
The redesigned NX has been a huge hit for Lexus, selling almost 75k last year, easily leading it class
Selling more doesn’t mean it’s best in class
@@naveenthemachine If you're a manufacturer, it does
@@InvestBetter. so based on your logic Lexus is objectively better than bmw or Porsche or Bentley because it outsells them by miles😂
@@naveenthemachine do u ever use your brain ?
Speak for the respective class of vehicles
It's more reliable , can't compare it to Ulta luxury like Bentley or Porsche
How come the 350h has a slower 0-60 time compared to the regular 350? Aren't hybrids supposed to have that instant torque/get off?
that is a big negative. It may have the better Touque take off, due to the battery, but in the end, the auto transmission and turbo engine will win the 0-60 time!
Bought my wife a 2024 NX350h in April 2023, base version will a few essential options for her like power rear trunk door, heated steering wheel and moonroof…….She is ok with the smaller screen and I am definitely ok with the 18 inches (cheaper to replace down the road and rides better). Paid $46.6k plus tax fee (MSRP and no add ons). Just hit 7k miles as of today.
Nice! How’s the MPG
@@chibbyylol 38-40 in the summer if she drives, 34-5 if I drive. Winter a little less due to lower temperature and engine runs a little longer. Highway if you keep it under 70, as least 35. I am so impressed that I am now waiting for the new redesign 2025-26 ES hybrid to replace my 2017 ES350 V6. If the new design is not my cup of tea, I am going Tesla Model S or Lucid Air Pure.
18 or 8 inches?
@@jml9550 don't get rid of that classic V6!
@@gosman949 I have a 2017 ES350 with the V6. As soon as the new gen ES hybrid comes out I will get rid of the 350, 20MPG average won’t cut it anymore for me. The new ES hybrid will get at least double that.
Just give us the Mark Levinson in the 450h+!!!
My 24MY NX450h+ does have ML (in the UK), but you still can’t get it with the pano roof, only regular moonroof.
I can get it in the regular hybrid! haha
Nice to see all that red interior supplanted by less garish, non headache inducing colors.
Since we bought our Lexus 3.5 yrs ago, the NX has gone up regularly. The UX, if you're single, or a couple, is looking good at $6000 less. And why we bought the UX in 2020.
Yes but it has a very small backseat when you do want to use it to have people there 😂
@@CarsandTechInfo If you want a, one car does all, you better pony up. At $32k it is perfect for our retired Navy daughter. And she is nobody's chauffeur!!!🤣
Any news for Lexus ES 300h faceLift? Subscribe and been waiting for this news from your channel lol.
Wanted to buy ES300h Ultra luxury but waiting for new facelift news.
Wish they had this color for the IS500, that would look sick
Oh wow, I might just check out the NX for an upgrade. Just love that copper crest, but it would be hard to get my service dog in and out of the back seat w those doors that don't open 90 degrees. Thanks for the updates, Kirk!
Waiting for LBX Morizo US release or GR Corolla with auto trans.
Have a 2024 NX 350 turbo gas model extremely fast, faster than the hybrid, as I also have a 2025 NX premium hybrid….. excellent vehicles!!!!!!!
The NX starts at $51k USD eq in my country and is hybrid only.
Kirk, With any Lexus or Toyota vehicle, the 'best deal' is always the base Hybrid with AWD. 😉 I can't wait for your NX vs RX vs Signia video later this year. 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Let's hope Signia gets the RX's larger gas tank size, since Signia takes an MPG hit versus the NX!
And throw in the Santa Fe Hybrid? It appears to have a 17+ gallon tank, which gives it a 600+ mile range on paper
By the way, 600+ mile ranges should be the standard for hybrids... hybrids should be sticking it to EVs!
@@brandononbrand but it is a Hyundai. I say no more.
We love our ‘23 NXh, only wish we had memory seat for $47k
You don’t have memory seat in a 47k car? 😮😮
haha should have gotten the Luxury trim!
In Canada the 2025 NX450h+ does come with the full panoramic moonroof in both the FSport handling and Executive packages however only the Executive package has the Mark Levinson sound system.
I disagree. I think the 2.4l turbo is right at home in the NX to those that don't want the 2.5 and a hybrid it. It sounds better than the other two too
Pano roof is available on the 450h+. ML should be available on non F Sport.
It hasn't been available on the F sport 450h+ only the Lux. Agree with ML
@@KirkKreifelshowever, if you look at the 2025 spec sheet, it does say available on the FSport handling and doesn't say only 350. So that could mean the ML is available on the 450h+ FS as well. You can see that they did have an item in the alloy wheels where it says 450h+ only. Will need to wait till the configurator is available, but from the specs sheet, pano roof and ML should be available on the PHEVs.
@@lsftTo bad honest I'd rather the 2025 450h+ don't have pano roof and ML available. For existing owners like us, future models not having these features keep our old 450H+ more competitive in the seller's market LOL. Besides, what happened to the weight issue? All of a sudden its a non-issue now? What did they take away in order to have the pano roof + ML weight added?
@@epcdasilent I believe the ML and panoroof are options and not standard in the US. In Canada, I believe the pano roof is standard, but only the non-fsport gets the ML.
I know what you mean. I've already lost out on the Advanced Park in my NX450FS. Now Panoroof and possibility ML. I guess that's what I get for not having to wait a few years and it depends how long you plan to drive the NX450h+. For me I plan to drive it for at least 10 years. There is an disadvantage with the pano roof since you lose some head room and it's a bit obvious for folks who are a bit taller. At this point my F Sport won't get ML yet... Not sure if the US will get it or not - I think the F-Sport won't.
Overtrail NX has been launched in Europe as well. Ordered one last week, unfortunately there aren't any reviews of this trim.
Probably the best car around, best build and quality. Insane the attention for details at Lexus.
Yet it’s still behind in tech compared to mercedes
@@Quinton0520 a hybrid is more advanced.... . But if you mean onboardctech, probably correct. That said, regarding build quality, fit and finish, materials interior. A lexus is far ahead of any former German premium brand, certainly Mercedes......
@@Quinton0520mercedes= premium, lexus=mass
@@avdp9095 this thing is made in Canada it has no fit in finish! Every luxury car I have been in had better fit and finish Volvo, Lincoln BMW, etc. The only thing Lexus has is better reliability that’s it.
Is the 450 h standard with 20 inch run flat tires? Thoughts on the noise levels?
Could you not zoom the picture out enough to fit the price of the LY680 on the screen? 😂
2025 Lexus NX = aesthetic SUV ever ❤
Agreed
In the UK we only get the NX350h and 450h+ with the base 350h model is £43k :O
Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS) with auto-leveling (HL) no longer available on any grade. A shame.
what the? Please show documentation.
Legend has it, Naveenthekoreanmachine also calls the Lexus yacht a “rebadged RAV4”. 🤣🤣
NAVEENTHEMACHINE IS already in action .he is a laughing stock.
@@mylifeislegendary942 Well, someone needs to provide the entertainment. 😅
@@mrgurulittle7000 agreed. Naveen always says ls will get killed off while been hypocritical and forgetful that even the cars like g90 g80 and g70 are selling very badly .
I share a name with that Hyundai mouthpiece 😢😢
@@AcostaN949Sorry bro. With all due respect. I’ll edit it to Naveenthemachine.🤝
2025 nx is better than ever and miles better than any gv70 rdx and more.❤ Obviously naveenthemachine and his tiny micro group of haters will try to post some bullshit .😂
Does the NX luxery have adaptive or active noise reduction?
I'm fine with NX Overtrail not coming to the US. I feel like it dilutes the Overtrail name for GX.
Hey, Naveenthemachine’s favorite car.
A gazillion times better than the GV70.
Agreed
I 10000% disagree, ppl in my country used to love Lexus but if you see the streets & the showrooms Genesis won them over very easily because Lexus allowed them by being so cheap in their features in a supposedly luxurious car
How is it a "gazillion times" better? The GV70 caters more to people who want a better blend of performance & luxury with the 2.5L turbo-4 with more HP & torque, a better 0-60 time, & a nicer interior depending on the trim or package. Plus the GV70 offers a 3.5T, a Nappa leather interior, rear seats that recline more, rear manual window sunshades, a separate climate zone for the second row, the Blind Spot View Monitor tech, & other great features. The GV70 is on a RWD-based AWD platform
@@CarsandTechInfoSorry but your list of bells and whistles just isn’t cutting it. All the boomers (aka the majority of people still able to afford a premium car) who look for a premium car don’t need RWD, in fact they prefer less performance and more comfort and practicality. That’s why Lexus sells a whole ton more than Genesis. Genesis pivoted themselves directly against the Germans, but we all know it’s just a dressed up Hyundai in the end.
The yacht looks like a copper crest color, beautiful rose gold!! Wish all Lexus vehicles came in that colorway!!
I really liked the NX and was hoping to get one. I was cross shopping it with the Mazda CX 50/CX five. I ended up getting the CX 50 because the trim I got that had the features that I wanted would’ve made the NX over $12,000 more Than the Mazda!
Also cross shopped Mazda3 and IS300. Ended up getting the Mazda3 Hatch top trim.
After the Nx came out I once cross shopped an nx350 and 450h+ against my v6 Camry XSE and the Camry quite simply blew the nx out of the water in every single comparable way
Even I was shocked that a Camry XSE v6 was a nicer more refined and more luxurious vehicle than the nx.
@@JapanQuestnow that's funny af. Who cross shops a fwd sedan vs a rwd sedan. Two completely different vehicles.
@@occckid123 cared more about features like AWD, reliability, price, engine, brand. I'm sure not the only one and my point was that newer Mazdas are starting to being compared with Lexus' more often than ever before.
@@occckid123 you can get both models in AWD now. Crazy to assume.
I am a Canadian in Taiwan, and I am on the cusp of buying a 2025 NX 350h. I am feeling apprehensive about pulling the trigger because I worry that the 2026 or 2027 NX might be significantly revised or improved. Any thoughts?
I love the Hazel color/Caramel interior 😮😊
Will you be going to and reporting on the New York Auto Show?
Nope. Staying home with the family
LY came out the COVID hit and it was mothballed.
Hi mister. Do you know when is all new rav4 coming out?
My vehicle will soon be 3 model years old and the changes are minuscule. I think they are keeping their engineers busy with their EV projects.
Hi kirk. I have live in Korea. I want to buy es300h. There are 3 trims es have luxury+, executive and f sport. I am between luxury+ and executive. Biggest difference between them performance damper. I have searching about it but couldn't find enough info. I know what is it but i wonder is it really worth? Do u have any experience with performance damper or without it? Pls help me! Should i pay extra 5k for executive?
Too bad the new rx has terrible interior colors. They need a nice tan brown
Personally I hate tans and browns
The best choice is to get NX 350 premium or NX 350H premium.
When will the all electric version model go on sale
I will stick with my 2023 Toyota Venza which comes with a spare tire and no run flats. I really don’t need the Lexus badge on my vehicle to own a nice vehicle. That’s just my choice but the NX is a great vehicle.
I'd take venza over NX/RX too
Venza's center stack and console design is impractical... Lexus NX is a lot better in this department
that plus a year longer warranty, etc would make me choose an NX350h built in Japan (not all are built in Canada!)
Lexus has become too expensive, cars in general too, but with the RX you get less(4 cyl) and you pay more, im out, love my slightly used BMW X5 inline 6 which is no 1 on CR
Test drove one a couple of months ago, quality is not there any more, mirror shakes when shutting the door, chassis still feels solid and tight, but you can just tell some parts aren't screwed as well together as before. Biggest let down is probably the Mark Levinson sound system, which is still great on Japan made higher end models, but at best average if not slightly below. There are tons of them for sale. I guess this is what happens when you move production domestically...
Awesome
Again, not much of a change!
I don't see many of the current NX where I live. Majority are the first generation. Overpriced,too small,Lexus is unaffordable to younger buyers. Old buyers want the RX,GX models.
I wish it was a wide as the volkswagen atlas cross tour
Lexus need a new design direction. They need the NX to look more boxy and less curvy for it to attract buyers.
What in the world are you talking about you do you realize it was just fully redesigned inside and out in 2022
Auto pricing is depressing. Waiting for Toyota direct to consumer like Tesla
It isn't legal in the U.S. is it?
You will be waiting your whole life. Dealers can't be uprooted
@@ytj22 nope and Tesla can't even sell in all 50 states either.
Fantastic information! These new prices further convince me that the NX is more than I want to pay. A 350 Luxury with all of the options and packages plus tax and license totals $60K! For a Lexus NX?! 🤔I think Toyota is starting to gouge customers with pruduction shortages and price increase.
Front grill is getting boring.
I knw it's suppose to be luxury but I can get the new Hyundai Santa Fe calligraphy, nicer and bigger for a lot less......🤔
The nx is not luxury even the slightest bit. 😂. Hyundai Kia Mazda do better luxury than Lexus
Try that junk😂
Hyundai Kia is poor quality. You can't compare the 2. I would never buy kia Hyundai.
Yeaaa but it’s a Hyundai, not the best for longterm.
@@BoldBrandFlakes who ever keeps cars that long these days?
Plus they have a long warranty. Oh and I know this other thing is hard for you to understand but I’ll explain it: take care of the car and keep up it’s routine maintenance and it’ll take good care of you
Until they get a front bumper I am not interested. Too feminine looking
Design is getting old both in exterior and interior.....hard to justify those high prices
The Nx was outdated before it hit dealers
And guess what? So is the next generation NX and the generation after that 😂
@@naveenthemachine keep clowning yourself 😂😂😂
@naveenthemachine 😂😂.NX is a excellent luxury suv and liked by everyone.fact is you are just a serial hater who post bullshit comments to get a kick or some reason to live . 😂
Ummm getting old??? NX was recently redesigned!! Lmao. Nothing old about it at all
@@artieartya no the nx is still old. Even with a redesign. In the most competitive market the nx just isn’t that competitive especially when compared to better executed competitors from genesis Hyundai Kia Acura Lincoln Mazda BMW Audi Volvo etc
Save 10k and go with the UX. The NX is not much bigger and is actually SMALLER in the front seats than the UX. The NX is kind of a car that shouldn’t exist in the lineup in my opinion
75 thousands sold last year tell otherwise !!
Maybe u should loose some kilos😂😂
The UX LOOKS VERY SMALL AND CHEAP
Nope. The nx is still not worth it whatsoever. The competition continues to laugh at this barely nicer rav4
75 thousand sold last year tell otherwise
😂. Naveenthemachine . Nx looks feels drive and everything else is different from what it based on and loved by everyone .so your opinion dont matter .. you are just a person with no life or anything but posting these comments to get attention because you dont get any in your life. So shut up and try to get some brains.😂
@@mylifeislegendary942 no it doesn’t. I’ve driven both a RAV4 and nx. They drive exactly the same
Drive a tuscon or CRV and drive an RDX or gv70 and they drive differently
@@naveenthemachine first of all you have not driven anything and gta 5 dont count as driven. They dont drive the same and you once again proving my point .you are know nothing but just a serial hater with brains of a donkey .so get fucked and get a life.
@@naveenthemachine 😂nx and rav4 dont drive the same at all .gta 5 or forza dont count has driving .so you are wrong again 👊
How much larger is this vehicle compared to a Buick Encore?