Great fix. I thought I had wasted nearly $500 on the mower. This was a $25 solution. It does run rough for two minutes, so give it a chance to get going.
Wow, Kipp...this worked perfectly for me! And I would agree that the GCV replacement carb did seem to make the motor run more smoothly. Very much appreciate this!
Thank you for this video. I've had my carb apart 4 times to try and clean/ unclog it and this saves me £100 (and a long wait) to just buy a replacement. Sounds like it will make it less likely to get clogged in future too.
I follow your steps on cleaning the carburetor injector cause it was surging, high low and great it solved the problem and changed the filter and replaced the spark plug and gap At .030 but now it’s blowing out smoke with a somewhat rough idling. Thanks for help
A minor amount of smoke/blow by at startup is normal but if it continues after reaching operating temperature I would verify the oil level, if that checks out then you may have worn piston rings. Thanks for the comment.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 that does not sound good would it be replaceable worth to replace the lawnmower is not that old and Pass the #Warranty . Thank You so much in advance
Worked for me! So glad I found this video. My GCV 170 is running like a charm without the surges. It just takes a minute or two to warm um but after that it is fine! Thank you Kipp and Jim!
This did not work for me. I bought the carb and switched the choke plate and it looked great. Installed it on the mower and will not start. However I just notice on the video where it says MODEL# HRN216VKAA NO BLADE STOP.... Well that's my model! So did I buy the wrong carb? Is there one that will work on my mower?
Just a question - at 5:23 minutes in, you mentioned you added an extender. How much overlap is there on the extender from the point of the original termination point ? 1/4 inch /14 inch extender ? Or in Centimeters ? How far out does the extender reach please ? Did you melt on the extender, glue it ? What is the method of adhesion please ? Thank you in advance !!!!
Come to found out the extension it’s t needed it works the same with or without it. I used a small piece of padded plastic from a cell phone car vent holder and screwed it together. Thanks Mike!
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 Thank you - yes you mentioned it the video. Thank you for the additional detail - grateful for your time on that Kipp !!
I'm having a hard time understanding the differences in all these carbs? Do you know what difference there is between a 16100-Z0L-862, and a 16100-Z0L-853? The 853's are cheaper and come with all the gaskets, but would they work in this machine?
For anyone else who may want to know, the 16100-Z0L-853 works great. It may just be a non-OEM part number, idk. Getting the choke plate out was the hardest thing about this, and judging by the scratch marks in the video, the 16100-Z0L-862 model must be the same. I also added an extension, since the choke didn't open the choke plate very far. But once installed, I added fuel to the tank (was a completely dry system), and barely pulled the cord, and it started right up! Runs amazing now. Thanks Dad's Workshop
Good question, my spare lawn mower parts are currently in storage but it's definitely possible. I know Honda carburetors come in a mix of "plastic slot" and "metal screw-in" arms but as long as the diameter and the stem length match up it should work. The only thing that might hold you back is the shape, size and material of the butterfly valve. Way to think outside the box! I'm for sure going to give it a try Gomez.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 How are the throttle linkage and return spring hooked up at throttle butterfly arm? Is the spring on hole close to air filter?
Honda doesn’t offer online parts directly from the manufacturer which I will never understand.. for the quickest results I would contact your nearest Honda Power Sports Dealership. BTW it’s competitor “Toro” makes buying parts directly from the manufacturer online fast and simple they’ll even work with your local small engines dealer as well along with FREE! online repair manuals with Pictures!! LOL. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the reply! Really appreciate people like you in the world. The replacement carb worked. Took about 6 minutes though before it really kicked on. Is this why you added the extender?
Am I correct in thinking that using the older carb would make this mower less likely to have issues caused by clogged ports/jets? From what I've heard the newer carbs have much smaller ports and jets than the older variants.
Just letting viewers know that I'm working on an engine with a fixed throttle. All Honda mowers that feature the blade-stop/roto-stop system come with an adjustable throttle for example "turtle and rabbit" speed. Because the engine continues to run when releasing the bail control on the blade stop system, Honda had to make a kill switch away from the traditional bail control arm release method, so they integrated it into the throttle.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 Hi, Great Video, thanks. so I have the Honda model with blade stop system , Ive cleaned out the idle jet repeatedly. Im afraid to buy exact replacement carb thinking Im just gonna have the same problem. so would this alternative work here as well? on the model with a blade stop system? Thanks
Good question Pat, the only other option is to go with an aftermarket "amazon special" carburetor but I'm not a fan of cheap replacement parts but to be fair I know plenty of friends and coworkers that have had great success with aftermarket carburetors. The fuel transports on Honda carburetors are SUPER tiny and clog very easily and I'm not sure the engineering behind this and being an ASE automotive technician for Lexus I don't care for auto engineers in general LOL. The only advice I can give is buy it and try it. Thanks for your support Pat.
I run 1 oz diesel in every 3rd tank every summer, not one dirty clogged jet/carb issue yet but I use a cheap paper inline filter too right after the tank
Absolutely! especially on this new GCV170 carburetor design. I like to run seafoam in the gas tank twice a year, once on the first cut of the season and once before winter storage. See directions on bottle for proper amount and usage. Gumout works great too! Thanks for the comment R2BA.
You just introduce me to “Mountfield” lawnmower bud, looks like my work is cut out for me. I haven’t come across that brand in the U.S. it kinda looks like a “Mastport”.
B.T.W. Late this summer Honda announced an immediate stop sale on all Honda lawnmowers, I haven’t seen them at Lowes or Home Depot for while and I’m not sure what’s going on.
Great carburetor comparision video. Are you up for a collaboration? Hipa supplies parts for small engines and maybe we would work together to help more people in the community.
Great fix. I thought I had wasted nearly $500 on the mower. This was a $25 solution.
It does run rough for two minutes, so give it a chance to get going.
Wow, Kipp...this worked perfectly for me! And I would agree that the GCV replacement carb did seem to make the motor run more smoothly. Very much appreciate this!
The new carb feels so cheap! thanks for your support, Rob.
Great video. This fixed my stuttering / surging Honda HRX216. Thanks.
Thank you for this video. I've had my carb apart 4 times to try and clean/ unclog it and this saves me £100 (and a long wait) to just buy a replacement. Sounds like it will make it less likely to get clogged in future too.
Glad I found this video. Was trying to clean my old one
And I messed it up. Will do this instead!
How much force did you use to take that plate out?
It doesn't want to come out, so you have to break its neck LOL. Thanks for watching.
I follow your steps on cleaning the carburetor injector cause it was surging, high low and great it solved the problem and changed the filter and replaced the spark plug and gap At .030 but now it’s blowing out smoke with a somewhat rough idling. Thanks for help
A minor amount of smoke/blow by at startup is normal but if it continues after reaching operating temperature I would verify the oil level, if that checks out then you may have worn piston rings. Thanks for the comment.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 that does not sound good would it be replaceable worth to replace the lawnmower is not that old and Pass the #Warranty .
Thank You so much in advance
Worked for me! So glad I found this video. My GCV 170 is running like a charm without the surges. It just takes a minute or two to warm um but after that it is fine! Thank you Kipp and Jim!
So Awesome - Love your videos
Thank you SO MUCH! Mike means a lot to me.
Worked perfect for me.
Hell, Yeah Chamberlin!
This worked for me too!!!
Hell yeah! good job Dr. Gameboy.
Could add a manual choke cable to that and not even change the carb.
This did not work for me. I bought the carb and switched the choke plate and it looked great. Installed it on the mower and will not start. However I just notice on the video where it says MODEL# HRN216VKAA NO BLADE STOP.... Well that's my model! So did I buy the wrong carb? Is there one that will work on my mower?
Do you have the link to the OEM carburetor? The GCV 170 HRN216 model
why not add a manual choke cable to the replacement carb and adjust the carb by yourself?
Just a question - at 5:23 minutes in, you mentioned you added an extender. How much overlap is there on the extender from the point of the original termination point ? 1/4 inch /14 inch extender ? Or in Centimeters ? How far out does the extender reach please ? Did you melt on the extender, glue it ? What is the method of adhesion please ? Thank you in advance !!!!
Come to found out the extension it’s t needed it works the same with or without it. I used a small piece of padded plastic from a cell phone car vent holder and screwed it together. Thanks Mike!
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 Thank you - yes you mentioned it the video. Thank you for the additional detail - grateful for your time on that Kipp !!
I'm having a hard time understanding the differences in all these carbs? Do you know what difference there is between a 16100-Z0L-862, and a 16100-Z0L-853? The 853's are cheaper and come with all the gaskets, but would they work in this machine?
For anyone else who may want to know, the 16100-Z0L-853 works great. It may just be a non-OEM part number, idk.
Getting the choke plate out was the hardest thing about this, and judging by the scratch marks in the video, the 16100-Z0L-862 model must be the same.
I also added an extension, since the choke didn't open the choke plate very far. But once installed, I added fuel to the tank (was a completely dry system), and barely pulled the cord, and it started right up! Runs amazing now. Thanks Dad's Workshop
Can you swap choke arm over to sub carburetor?
Good question, my spare lawn mower parts are currently in storage but it's definitely possible. I know Honda carburetors come in a mix of "plastic slot" and "metal screw-in" arms but as long as the diameter and the stem length match up it should work. The only thing that might hold you back is the shape, size and material of the butterfly valve. Way to think outside the box! I'm for sure going to give it a try Gomez.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 How are the throttle linkage and return spring hooked up at throttle butterfly arm? Is the spring on hole close to air filter?
Is it better to replace the gcv170 carb or better to go with the gcv160?
Honestly, I don’t have a true answer for that. I think the verdict is still out.
Why does Honda not offer a direct replacement? I'd prefer to just replace it with the same carb but can't find it
Yes but last time I checked they were on national back order.
Honda doesn’t offer online parts directly from the manufacturer which I will never understand.. for the quickest results I would contact your nearest Honda Power Sports Dealership. BTW it’s competitor “Toro” makes buying parts directly from the manufacturer online fast and simple they’ll even work with your local small engines dealer as well along with FREE! online repair manuals with Pictures!! LOL. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the reply! Really appreciate people like you in the world. The replacement carb worked. Took about 6 minutes though before it really kicked on. Is this why you added the extender?
Am I correct in thinking that using the older carb would make this mower less likely to have issues caused by clogged ports/jets? From what I've heard the newer carbs have much smaller ports and jets than the older variants.
You nailed it I like your style thanks for watching.
Is it impossible to drill out the jet to make it clog proof?
@@samohtnotslar I was going to do that actually, then saw this video. This just seemed easier, and considering I don't own micro drills, it was.
What does your note mean about the hrn216vkaa 45 seconds in?
Just letting viewers know that I'm working on an engine with a fixed throttle. All Honda mowers that feature the blade-stop/roto-stop system come with an adjustable throttle for example "turtle and rabbit" speed. Because the engine continues to run when releasing the bail control on the blade stop system, Honda had to make a kill switch away from the traditional bail control arm release method, so they integrated it into the throttle.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 Hi, Great Video, thanks. so I have the Honda model with blade stop system , Ive cleaned out the idle jet repeatedly. Im afraid to buy exact replacement carb thinking Im just gonna have the same problem. so would this alternative work here as well? on the model with a blade stop system? Thanks
Good question Pat, the only other option is to go with an aftermarket "amazon special" carburetor but I'm not a fan of cheap replacement parts but to be fair I know plenty of friends and coworkers that have had great success with aftermarket carburetors. The fuel transports on Honda carburetors are SUPER tiny and clog very easily and I'm not sure the engineering behind this and being an ASE automotive technician for Lexus I don't care for auto engineers in general LOL. The only advice I can give is buy it and try it. Thanks for your support Pat.
Does anyone know the part number for the GCV170 carburetor?
peparts.honda.com/powerequipment/lawn-mowers/hrn/HRN216/HRN216-VKA/VR84E1400/references
Do you recommend using gumout occasionally? And if so how much?
I run 1 oz diesel in every 3rd tank every summer, not one dirty clogged jet/carb issue yet but I use a cheap paper inline filter too right after the tank
Absolutely! especially on this new GCV170 carburetor design. I like to run seafoam in the gas tank twice a year, once on the first cut of the season and once before winter storage. See directions on bottle for proper amount and usage. Gumout works great too! Thanks for the comment R2BA.
Hi where is the fuel filter for the gcv 170 honda mower?
Inside the fuel tank outlet tube it’s just a wire mesh filter that looks like straw.
Thanks
Thanks for your support
Hi are the needle vaves the same on most honda lawnmowers i have a gcvx170 would a 160 fit mine?
Looking at quick google image and it looks like the same set up as the GCV170. Is that engine on a power washer? Thanks for watching John.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 no its a mountfield lawnmower with a honda engine gcvx 170
You just introduce me to “Mountfield” lawnmower bud, looks like my work is cut out for me. I haven’t come across that brand in the U.S. it kinda looks like a “Mastport”.
B.T.W. Late this summer Honda announced an immediate stop sale on all Honda lawnmowers, I haven’t seen them at Lowes or Home Depot for while and I’m not sure what’s going on.
How much cost
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AJTXIMO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This carb will be cheaper than oem carburetor.
Great carburetor comparision video. Are you up for a collaboration?
Hipa supplies parts for small engines and maybe we would work together to help more people in the community.