@@Knockout360 If you can afford a scat but not to do exhaust work you’re going to the wrong mechanic bro I’m sorry to tell you but this guy is wrong the X pipe gives you all the back pressure you need and if you look down the muffler it has zero restriction, i’ve had my midmufflers deleted for the longest time and if anything I’m faster from cutting the 15 pounds they weigh
I'm a 35 year A.S.E certified Technician and no disrespect to the less experienced Tech in the video however his advice is TOTALLY false for this Exhaust system.Tuning is needed when installing totally new complete exaust system but muffler delete doesn't require tuning and it sounds absolutely amazing with the 5 inch Carven exhaust tips... I myself own the 2021 Widebody Scatpack 392 with mid muffler delete and Carven 5inch Chrome Tips and FYI a mid muffler delete is COMPLETELY harmless to the performance of this car weather at top end, Mid range, or Iow speed performance... Dodge electronic system is very sophisticated and the Engineering of the vehicle is designed to alert the driver if at any throttle position that power has been compromised... The PCM will trigger the " SERVICE ENGINE SOON" light to the driver whenever any factory settings has been altered. If you noticed whenever a muffler delete is performed that there's no requirements to reprogram the PCM as a result because simply no factory settings has been compromised... Dude needs some more training on Automotive electrical systems before taking shots at folks about what and how they choose to mod their vehicles...IJS
@@isiahemerson980 do some research before you look dumb please don’t look stupid bro it’s so easy to look it up, he is right but not about this exhaust system specifically. This exhaust has an x pipe which has more then enough back pressure others exhaust that don’t have an x pipe need back pressure
Back pressure is a myth. Exhaust scavenging is what you want. Engineering explained covered this awhile ago. I've proved this on the dyno as well. You will NOT lose torque if you cut out your muffler, resos, put free flowing piping, etc. It may move somewhere in the rpm, but it is not lost, nor does it do any harm. If there are no sensors, you don't need a tune.
@@2iBMX no engine needs back pressure in a car. The only reason the have mufflers and cats for noise laws and emissions, that's it. If back pressure was needed then you'd see top fuel dragsters with them, but they don't..
He is wrong. First, the rear "mufflers" aren't mufflers they are resonators, they change the tone so you're not getting drone where the mufflers in the middle reduce the volume. Also, backpressure comments are just completely incorrect. He might be a decent mechanic but he doesn't understand the way exhaust works.
You don’t lose back pressure from a muffler delete lol the X pipe brings the back pressure, go to another shop Nd cut your mufflers cause seems like he won’t do it
I did mine on my wb scat 6 speed seems like I gained some on top end felt like I lost some torque sometimes my best 0-60 is 3.8 secs before the mod and 4.0 since I had it done lost deepness some but definitely louder and more fun after a year of it. Pipes will break in over time deepening going to do resonators this week😊
With all due respect, this guy simply doesn't know what he's talking about. The whole "backpressure" argument is complete nonsense. Opening up your exhaust doesn't cost you in performance. Deleting the resonators and adding Super 10's increased my RT's torque and gave it a great throaty bite. Performance didn't suffer in the least. I'd guess he's telling gullible people this nonsense trying to sell them expensive catback systems.
@@mikekendrick4586 I deleted my resonators way back when, and didn't lose any torque. Since my last post, I deleted the Super 10's and added 12" Cherry Bombs at the very end of each pipe. It is almost unbearably loud when you get on it (wouldn't have it any other way), and the mid-range is much stronger in 3rd-6th. This is the setup I should have had all along.
@@ragingskeptic9753 I saw where you did the delete then added the super 10s. I myself loss torque in my 2016 challenger manual. After 4th hear it was sluggish
@@mikekendrick4586 Hmm. That's really odd, man. I just did a pull in mine, and when I left 3rd at 97 mph, it was still pulling hard. Are you running quality gas? Try adding octane booster? If you did a reso delete and freed up your exhaust, it should have made the mid-range a little stronger. Outside temperature also has a lot to do with it, and the car will be more sluggish when the air is hotter. Try putting your windows down and running the heater at full blast during a pull (make sure AC is not activated). Does performance improve? If so, outside ambient temperature is likely the culprit.
Oh hell no, even Americans are talking about that " back pressure " bullshit. No SIR mid muffler delete won't effect anything, meanwhile CATs delete yea u need to tune ur car to get the benefits.
So the same thing can be said about the wickerbill you have installed...you drilled holes into a perfectly installed factory spoiler for something that has 0 performance value
Great explanation about how an engine works. However, if u ever saw the inside of these mid mufflers, you’d know they don’t create any additional back pressure. They are wide open on the inside. Maybe this 30 yr mechanic should know what the mid muffler is before he gives his “expert” opinion on it.
@@joshuabranson74Hey I just bought a 2021 Dodge Charger RT and I deleted the two resonators on it it did make it a bit loud nothing crazy but I been seeing videos on how it can cause back pressure or droning what would you recommend me doing to it next? should I modify or installing anything on my charger rt? I wouldn't like to mess with my engine efficiency or damage anything.
Except everyone does this and has been fine...for 50 years...in practically every performance oriented car. Dumb video. >> If the advice is to get a tune so the car knows what is going on, then yeah sure. That is common sense.
You do need it on other cars but the x pipe on the 392 exhaust helps it scavenge all it needs and the mufflers are straight through designs so they create almost zero resistance to the point where it’s unnoticeable
@@WhySoSeriousGM Oh My. An X pipe in no way at all not even a little tiny bit create backpressure. NO quite the opposite actually. Please Please everyone never ever ever say that word backpressure again ... Shit man.
@@randyschmidt19 “scavenging” i use back pressure for the young ones it’s makes more sense to them point still stand, muffler delete doesn’t effect cars performance
@@randyschmidt19 it’s very hard to just correct someone nicely, you don’t have to be a jerk about it not everyone is a godly mechanic with unlimited knowledge like you are
@@WhySoSeriousGM well see this is very basic. Myths get perpetuated by using terms like that. You have been lied to about almost everything in life and in the information age we can all obtain and understand the facts so we are better. I grew up depending on magazines and TV shows that I believed were passing truth and I took it for fact. Later working in the industry I learned that those mags and shows just regurgitate manufacturer marketing. It's like that with percent of the things you see. I hate seeing people indoctrinated and passing misinformation so I am serious. Also I am kind of a dick... In a loving way😏
If deleting your Mids, would hurt performance or damage your vehicle. Dodge wouldve already addressed this issue. By putting out some kind of statement saying “Deleting mid mufflers will cause loss in performance and possibly damage your vehicle and void your warranty”. And there are thousands of muffler shops across America doing this. And not one mechanic has ever told me. “ Hey pal, I gotta warn you I wouldn’t do this.” The Mids on these cars are basically a straight through design anyways. Cutting the Mids off does not affect performance, only sound. Your X-pipe should provide enough “back pressure”. But if you’re one of those OCD guys that wants it clean, drop 1200 on a Borla or Corsa for a nice clean look and that “distinctive brand sound”. But if you just want some extra sound cutting the Mids off for 100-200 dollars, won’t hurt you Bro. It seems like he didn’t want to do it, and was trying to sell you an aftermarket system that he had overstocked in the back. If you ever decide to sell the car or trade your car in, keep the factory mufflers and have them reinstalled. My Son has a 2020 Charger Scatpack WIdebody Smoke Show, with Mid delete. I personally myself, like the way the stock mufflers sound over the delete. I enjoy your content Bro, keep it up!👍
@@adamnelson7067 the way I look at it is this; ever see a race car or drag car running mufflers for back pressure purposes? No, they want as little back pressure as possible. The only back pressure you would need is provided by the catalytic converters anyways. It's not like a two stroke where it needs a tuned exhaust for scavenging effect.
Look to me not everyone gots 1,200 or more for exhaust. Thats rent or mortgage payment or money you saving for vacation or hard times. We all don't need rolex and Invicta watch or G-shock just fine. If you got da bread drop it on exhaust. Do what u want to your car just do dont up badge it lol.
@@mobent912 they don't even keep the cars long enough for that. They keep the car 1-2 years then dump it for something else. Then if they do, they don't keep up maintenance and claim shops are scamming when their engine goes out.
Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
This guy seems to have good intentions but it makes no difference. Won’t hurt the car. I’ve cut the mufflers off all 7 V8 trucks I’ve had and both of my camaros and had no issues. Many will say back pressure is a myth.
A vehicle is designed and operates similar to a human body.A mid muffler acts like an expansion chamber,so the exhaust gasses flow more efficiently.If you cut out your two lungs,and replace them with tubes,guess what,your not going to breath properly.If you do remove the mid mufflers,you replace them with a similar design,that keeps the purpose,but gives you a different tone.Same thing goes for intake tubing,if you remove the baffled tubing,and replace with straight tubing.The intake will be louder,but doing that can rob hp,the air is not flowing efficiently.All these mods,that I mentioned, are compliments to a bigger build with proper tuning.
@@jakoidtongeHey I just bought a 2021 Dodge Charger RT and I deleted the two resonators on it it did make it a bit loud nothing crazy but I been seeing videos on how it can cause back pressure or droning what would you recommend me doing to it next? should I modify or installing anything on my charger rt? I wouldn't like to mess with my engine efficiency or damage anything.
The "car exhaust needs back pressure" myth completely goes against how exhaust scavenging works to evacuate the combustion chamber. The higher the back pressure the lower the exhaust velocity. The lower the exhaust velocity the less vacuum is generated from the headers pulling spent air out of the chambers during valve overlap. I will agree that proper materials need to be used with good welding.
Yep, love my new badass exhaust sound. Stock exhaust is great and everything, but it's just not loud enough. I want my car to roar to match the way it looks. Scatpacks should not sound like V6 cars.
@leri3365 Hey man I know its two years later but I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man.
@@quorthunsargeras7054Hey I just bought a 2021 Dodge Charger RT and I deleted the two resonators on it it did make it a bit loud nothing crazy but I been seeing videos on how it can cause back pressure or droning what would you recommend me doing to it next? should I modify or installing anything on my charger rt? I wouldn't like to mess with my engine efficiency or damage anything.
So if this the case why is literally every race car straight piped? You want the most flow out of the motor thats how power is made. Im not an advocate for cutting up your shit like a loony with a hack saw but this is another one of those uneducated (ass)umptions because with a tune you should be making power off of cat and muff deletes not losing it. Especially on the top end where flow and rpm are king
The man is a mechanic, not an engineer (no disrespect). The idea of needing back pressure is a myth, and he even points out no cat/high flow cat would help make power. A straight 3” pipe will make more power (MotorTrend busted this myth in a great 2.5” vs 3” comparison). And FWIW - he called the resonator a muffler…
I KNEW IT!! I freaking knew it!! Had a mechanic explain this to me when I was 19. I had a 96' Police Interceptor Crown Victoria I wanted to put Dale Eastman exhaust on. I wanted to know why mine was going to cost $300+ when my boi paid around $100 for his exhaust. Long story short, I listened & let him to the job. Had duel exhaust coming out behind the wheels, & it sounded so good my pops was jealous, & he had GT Mustang with Flows on it. Mine sounded just as deep, if not deeper than his car. I just thought stuff had changed now that everyone was getting the 30 minute slap stick exhaust jobs on all their Chargers, & Challengers. Good to know. 😎🤝
@starscream2541 Hey there I know its two years later but I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt and one month in I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp or any torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man.
It always blows me away that people buy these cars and the first thing they do is head to the muffler shop to have mid muffler delete just to get the plop plop plop sound. They act like they know more than the Dodge engineers. Give me a break. Stop fucking up your 392 with this mod.
I deleted the mid muffler on my 21 scat here about a month ago and replaced it with the Dynomax Mini Race Bullets and I have noticed no loss in performance. I’m sort of OCD about that kind of thing and I would have noticed. Maybe what I did is better than just welding in a straight pipe in place of the mid mufflers. That sounds too raspy anyways. Also Have fun spending $2000+ for a full cat back system just for sound and no power gain. The 392 is optimized already from the factory so full exhaust does nothing for power.
I don't see nothing wrong with a mid muffler delete, my car sounds great with it, still have my cats and back mufflers,. I have no complaints. Best $100 I spent on Smurffet.
@@DavyDave1313Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
@@Smurf345.Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
Yea I’m with what the guy explained.. I’m not cutting shit off my 2021 scatpack. It already sounds mean.. and when I’m cruising it doesn’t have that drone sound thinking it’s a damn truck when I’m passing by.. quiet when I’m cruising & sounds mean when I open her up..💯
@@quorthunsargeras7054 Yea that’s koo.. My scatpack is loud enough for me strait from the factory lol.. my neighbors already hates my scatpack because of the sound.. don’t need it any louder.. Hey if you got IG check it out on my page. Tayy24
@@quorthunsargeras7054Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
@@tayyc6074Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
dude tryin to pimp you for a 1500 exhaust, these cats have ZERO clue what there talking about, lol🤣 Ive had full straights for 3 years. GO TO A DIFFERENT SHOP, or let homeboy get u for his "custom" exhaust job w knock off magnaflos and is basically a stock muffler.
its been dyno proven that mid muffler deletes do not harm power nor the car. been running it for a year and not a thing has happened. no hiccups, no cel, no power loss. cats yes but mids no.
My widebody is catless, and striaght piped from the cats on. None of the factors he mentioned in this video happened to me. I did get a CEL on the dash, but that was because my air to fuel ratio was off because of the cat removal. I had my tuner that I've been working with for years, tune my car and both my HP and Torque are off the scale. I would say, do some research before modding, 2nd and 3rd opinions do matter.
Here's the deal....the valves at the head is what makes back pressure. When you cut your mid muffler you are messing with the exhaust scavenging. This is not and never will be " back pressure ". It's been proven time and time , over and over . The one thing that cutting your exhaust will effect is " torque " . Most times when you mess with flow tuning with manifolds you loose low end torque but gain it up top. Flow disasters will always hurt hp/torque.....this is a bunch of " opinion , non education, personal " shit.
Some say it do some say it don't. Only thing I know is I'm riding around with my mid muffler off and the reso is next 🤷🏿♂️. Until I get the money for a Corsa.
@Goldchim Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
I fell the same way, I just spent the $2,000 and got a full Corsa exhaust system. Good thing is it's a whole bolt on if I don't want to keep my Durango I can unbolt and put factory exhaust system back on. Sound is better and no drone.💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
My son has a scat pack, he cut his pipes. He said now he burns way more gas than B4... I'll pass on that. I asked him why would you cut your pipes just to make your car louder, only to be running back and forth to the gas station more... I'm good. But hey it's not my car, have at it...
Yup..... just trying to tell people that don't do their research that they know what they're doing..... 4 STROKE ENGINES SHOULDN'T HAVE BACK PRESSURE!!!!! Legalities aside, I understand that you shouldn't cut out a cat, and your car is supposed to be quiet to comply with law. But the best exhaust for a 4 stroke engine, has ZERO restriction. You want back pressure in your car? Think you need it? Put a 2 stroke under the hood so that you're actually correct instead of thinking you are....
No problems, a little more drone than I’d like. But sounds nice under acceleration This guy in the video here is a bit crazy. Buddy of mines father owns a dodge dealership and says a lot of the hellcats they have sold have been serviced and warrantied with no concern of the mid muffler delete. I cut mine out and my only regret is I should have done it sooner .
Your mechanic won't let you cut the pipes on your car because he simply is tired of doing the work and not making the money doing it because it is so easy and cheap to do. He wants you to buy and have him install an aftermarket kit because he will make more money in labor putting it on when you can literally do it yourself for free.
I did a resonater delete and replaced stock mufflers on my Mustang; I added an H pipe and Roush Mufflers. This mod saved weight and made car sound amazing.
I have a R/T pretty sure the 392 is the same the mid muffler is just an open case no need for them but you put that aftermarket exhaust on and I garauntee u they’ll void that warranty and resale goes down
@@mlavine1980Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
Long story short get a wide band afr or scan tool note your air fuel ratio at all driving condition. When you remove restrictive exhaust components you'll run more lean because air is moving through more freely which can feel like power loss so you'd need to extend injector duration - add more fuel to get back to your recorded afr. This is how you get the power which is why people say get a tune.
I dont think the mid deletes will cost any low end power - on that I disagree with him. Having said that, cutting the mids off the scats wont improve your hp at all, either. It is purely a sound change. Nothing more. What I do agree with him, though, is that replacing the nicely built and high quality (and not restrictive either) oem mids with cheap parts… that cheapens the car. Have you ever heard of lambos and porsches or even m trim bmw owners “cutting their pipes”? Or replacing their high quality oem mufs with cheap loud ones? No. Why? Cos thats what ricers do. If you cant appreciate the car that you bought, then return it, dont cut and patch it. Thats for cheap hondas, done by cheap ricers. (Buying a fully built aftermarket catback, is another story, I am only talking about cheapening / cutting / patching your awesome car here). Do it proper, or keep it proper.
After a mid muffler delete you want to either install an X pipe or H pipe in its place. Backpressure is not necessarily a myth. Thank me later, cant dispute this. Put it on a dyno.
@WHITSnWOODS Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
Im a huge gearhead and have owned many high horsepower builds. If theres one thing I try and teach my buddies, it's to not make the same mistakes I have modifying my cars. The biggest is "back pressure". Throughout the years I have tried deleted cats, mid pipes, full through exhausts and I will be the first to say that this man is 1000% CORRECT WITH EVERY WORD. You will lose power down low, almost everytime, and to me the gains up high (if any) arent worth the extra noise. Not to mention feeling like a "13 year old boy buying bubblegum" 🤣
While yes you can lose power in the low end from a free flowing exhaust. thats without a tune. as soon as you make corrections to the tune you WILL gain power with a free flowing exhaust. the main thing to go for when doing you exhaust is proper scavenging. Long tubes and an x-pipe is whats gonna make power, not a muffler for “back pressure”
@ronde6856 Hey man I have a question if I replace my existing factory exhaust with a borla or corsa exhaust system will that void my warranty and is it worth installing it l? I just want a deeper sound and better performance by the way I have a 2021 Dodge Charger Rt with resonator deletes currently.
Back pressure is mostly a myth though. It is not a significant cause for concern; if it was 10,000hp dragsters wouldn't have zoomie headers. What is really important, is scavenging, and the stock x and h pipes on Chargers and Challengers does that perfectly, with or without mufflers or resonators.
@PotatoeJoe69 Hey man I have a question if I replace my existing factory exhaust with a borla or corsa exhaust system will that void my warranty and is it worth installing it I just want a deeper sound and better performance by the way I have a 2021 Dodge Charger Rt with resonator deletes currently.
He is full of $hit! If it was an issue a check engine lite would come on. I cut my mid muffler a year ago on my 2019 scat no issues! He wants to sell you a high dollar muffler. Old cars only had one muffler no cat at all , and they ran and sounded better that todays cars.
@ctetuning Hey there I know its two years later but I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt and one month in I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp or any torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man.
@@jesus_rt345 lol hey man, i would do sometype of mid muffler delete. I done that and it was great i didint loose power and it wont mess up warranty. God bless you as well 🙏
@@ctetuninghey man would replacing my existing factory exhaust with a borla or corsa exhaust system void my warranty and is it worth installing it for a deeper sound and performance? I have a 2021 Dodge Charger Rt with resonator deletes currently.
family been in the muffler business for over 35 years. this man just didnt wanna do the job. the mufflers are basically a straight through design packed with fiberglass, theres no baffles on the inside or nothing. theyre only job is to "muffle" the exhaust. thats it. if you still got converters and shit on you got plenty of "back pressure" just from those
Cool story bro, now cut my pipes.
LMAO
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All I learned from this video is where not to take my car for exhaust work..
You couldn’t afford it anyway
@@Knockout360 stfu bitch
@@Knockout360 mid muffler is for sound not performance catalytic converters are what do the work as long as those ain’t cut you’re good
Facts !! 💯
@@Knockout360 If you can afford a scat but not to do exhaust work you’re going to the wrong mechanic bro I’m sorry to tell you but this guy is wrong the X pipe gives you all the back pressure you need and if you look down the muffler it has zero restriction, i’ve had my midmufflers deleted for the longest time and if anything I’m faster from cutting the 15 pounds they weigh
Presented by shops that want to sell a whole exhaust system.
Exactly what I was about to say.
I guarantee he drives a minivan to work 😂😂😂
@@BigDon_707 not just any minivan my friend. He's all about that Mopar life. So you know it's a Dodge Caravan!!!
@@Jason4422Daddybear 🤣
@@BigDon_707 he actually has a Audi and a challenger scat pack 😘
I'm a 35 year A.S.E certified Technician and no disrespect to the less experienced Tech in the video however his advice is TOTALLY false for this Exhaust system.Tuning is needed when installing totally new complete exaust system but muffler delete doesn't require tuning and it sounds absolutely amazing with the 5 inch Carven exhaust tips... I myself own the 2021 Widebody Scatpack 392 with mid muffler delete and Carven 5inch Chrome Tips and FYI a mid muffler delete is COMPLETELY harmless to the performance of this car weather at top end, Mid range, or Iow speed performance... Dodge electronic system is very sophisticated and the Engineering of the vehicle is designed to alert the driver if at any throttle position that power has been compromised... The PCM will trigger the " SERVICE ENGINE SOON" light to the driver whenever any factory settings has been altered. If you noticed whenever a muffler delete is performed that there's no requirements to reprogram the PCM as a result because simply no factory settings has been compromised... Dude needs some more training on Automotive electrical systems before taking shots at folks about what and how they choose to mod their vehicles...IJS
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Exactly
@@MarkHemiRT 4real Man
Facts thanks for the info
And that’s also why they have a factory x pipe
Exactly that’s why u don’t see 392s popping and crackling they just get really loud
Me. dammm thats crazy....
Mechanic. You still wanna cut them
Me.yep
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Literally 😂
Rs 😂 who cares
Factssss😭😭😭😭
Lmao
I don't need this kinda negativity in my life 🤣
Excatly what i was thinkin blah blah blah 😂
"He been a mechanic for as long as I was alive"... The guy proceeds to point at a Resonator and calls it a Muffler xD
Exactly!
Points at mid muffler says whatever they call this lol
Yup. This guy is clueless when it comes to Dodge muscle. Plus I think he was high.
EXACTLY LMAOOOOO
@@titan9m 🤣🤣
I’d delete this video bro their are more people telling you he wrong then people agreeing 😂😂😂
LMAOOOO
but he’s right yall r just dumb as fuck😭
@@isiahemerson980 do some research before you look dumb please don’t look stupid bro it’s so easy to look it up, he is right but not about this exhaust system specifically. This exhaust has an x pipe which has more then enough back pressure others exhaust that don’t have an x pipe need back pressure
He is actually right tho I’ve had one and I never lost a race against anyone with exhaust work
@@jadent7416 I did work to mine and I haven’t lost a race either to any stock scat packs
I bet the customer will be like "Sir please hurry up and cut my pipe is getting late". Lol
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Dude came for a mid muffler delete and got finessed into buying a thousand dollar exhaust system instead by the tech lol.
lmaooo fr 😹😹
Facts 😂😂😂😂
Exactly
Is he jealous he doesnt have a scat? Man he seemed like he was gettin pissed.
Lmao
Lol he do have a scat pack 😂😂😂
@@babyboycj8593 then i stand corrected. Lol
@@83devildog 😂😂 yea they both in same club as me
@@babyboycj8593 thats cool bro very nice
Back pressure is a myth. Exhaust scavenging is what you want. Engineering explained covered this awhile ago. I've proved this on the dyno as well. You will NOT lose torque if you cut out your muffler, resos, put free flowing piping, etc. It may move somewhere in the rpm, but it is not lost, nor does it do any harm. If there are no sensors, you don't need a tune.
Finally someone said it , it's a myth for Godsake, IDK why ppl still believe that crap and it's worldwide thing for some reason!!!
You said it right ✊🏾
Cant that cause blown engine?
@@Sequel7 no lol
@@2iBMX no engine needs back pressure in a car. The only reason the have mufflers and cats for noise laws and emissions, that's it. If back pressure was needed then you'd see top fuel dragsters with them, but they don't..
My dads been a mechanic for 40 years, he says this is extra and he’s tryna sell you it all 😂
nah ur dads not, ur just copying all the comments wanting clout
He is wrong. First, the rear "mufflers" aren't mufflers they are resonators, they change the tone so you're not getting drone where the mufflers in the middle reduce the volume. Also, backpressure comments are just completely incorrect. He might be a decent mechanic but he doesn't understand the way exhaust works.
You don’t lose back pressure from a muffler delete lol the X pipe brings the back pressure, go to another shop Nd cut your mufflers cause seems like he won’t do it
exactly, wsg josh
@@khronin yep, touching cat's is a no no.
I did mine on my wb scat 6 speed seems like I gained some on top end felt like I lost some torque sometimes my best 0-60 is 3.8 secs before the mod and 4.0 since I had it done lost deepness some but definitely louder and more fun after a year of it. Pipes will break in over time deepening going to do resonators this week😊
Yoooooo Josh
HES THA TYPE THAT WILL SEE YOUR JLT CATCH CAN N MAKE UP ILLUSIONS ON HOW THAT MOD WILL DESTROY YUR ENGINE N INTAKE🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tech: This is why you don't cut your pipes.
Me: Uh huh, that's crazy.
Tech: Get a catback exhaust for...
Me: Bruh, lower my car and give me my keys
With all due respect, this guy simply doesn't know what he's talking about. The whole "backpressure" argument is complete nonsense. Opening up your exhaust doesn't cost you in performance. Deleting the resonators and adding Super 10's increased my RT's torque and gave it a great throaty bite. Performance didn't suffer in the least. I'd guess he's telling gullible people this nonsense trying to sell them expensive catback systems.
Definitely gullible and none Mechanically inclined...
Key phrase adding super 10s added hp, just deleting res loses torque I know first hand
@@mikekendrick4586 I deleted my resonators way back when, and didn't lose any torque. Since my last post, I deleted the Super 10's and added 12" Cherry Bombs at the very end of each pipe. It is almost unbearably loud when you get on it (wouldn't have it any other way), and the mid-range is much stronger in 3rd-6th. This is the setup I should have had all along.
@@ragingskeptic9753 I saw where you did the delete then added the super 10s. I myself loss torque in my 2016 challenger manual. After 4th hear it was sluggish
@@mikekendrick4586 Hmm. That's really odd, man. I just did a pull in mine, and when I left 3rd at 97 mph, it was still pulling hard. Are you running quality gas? Try adding octane booster? If you did a reso delete and freed up your exhaust, it should have made the mid-range a little stronger. Outside temperature also has a lot to do with it, and the car will be more sluggish when the air is hotter. Try putting your windows down and running the heater at full blast during a pull (make sure AC is not activated). Does performance improve? If so, outside ambient temperature is likely the culprit.
me: Damnnn bro that crazzzzyyy mechanic: So yea and this does- me: BRUH IF U DONT CUT MY SH SO I CAN GO ON WITH MY DAY
Don't cut your mufflers because I have an 8k exhaust system to sell you.😀
😂😂
Facts
Oh hell no, even Americans are talking about that " back pressure " bullshit. No SIR mid muffler delete won't effect anything, meanwhile CATs delete yea u need to tune ur car to get the benefits.
Absolute wives tale.
Same
Yep, he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about..
trying to get KO to buy something lol
@@currymcflurryx9543 lmfaooooo
On god
Who's charging 200 for muffler delete I get it done for 75
Somebody getting ripped off 😂
Had a guy quote me $300 talk about they weld the pipes 😂 I left got it done for $75 as well.
Lucky af mine was 140 😬
Dam sad a 5min job is all it is
@@mobent912 I went a family owned business when I went a bigger one in town he looked me dead in the face and said $300.
My scat feels exactly the same bud. Raced another with stock exhaust and we were neck and neck to 140 when we let off.
Only at 140.....should have at 190...😆
@@musclebone7875 lol American muscle and large curves are not best friends my brother
@@Toxicinparis lol just messing with you brother. 140 is moving💯
Cause it’s a resonator not a muffler he’s an idiot
That's embarrassing as hell, racing someone, making all that noise and going no where. All bark and no bite that's a loss in my book.
He preaching 🔥lol, he been waiting for this moment🤣
smart man
Bruhman bro no he no
He has absolutely no clue what he's talking about.
😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯
So the same thing can be said about the wickerbill you have installed...you drilled holes into a perfectly installed factory spoiler for something that has 0 performance value
The loss of a little back pressure isn't going to make or break whether or not you lose that race.
Yes it does
Great explanation about how an engine works. However, if u ever saw the inside of these mid mufflers, you’d know they don’t create any additional back pressure. They are wide open on the inside. Maybe this 30 yr mechanic should know what the mid muffler is before he gives his “expert” opinion on it.
Well not only that but back pressure is a myth as far as needing it for performance
Well not only that but back pressure is a myth as far as needing it for performance
@@joshuabranson74Hey I just bought a 2021 Dodge Charger RT and I deleted the two resonators on it it did make it a bit loud nothing crazy but I been seeing videos on how it can cause back pressure or droning what would you recommend me doing to it next? should I modify or installing anything on my charger rt? I wouldn't like to mess with my engine efficiency or damage anything.
Except everyone does this and has been fine...for 50 years...in practically every performance oriented car. Dumb video.
>> If the advice is to get a tune so the car knows what is going on, then yeah sure. That is common sense.
Mid Muffler Delete got nothing to do with performance. It's for sound more aggressive
Right if it does anything it just saves weight lol
At the same time i hear other mechanics call back pressure a myth
You do need it on other cars but the x pipe on the 392 exhaust helps it scavenge all it needs and the mufflers are straight through designs so they create almost zero resistance to the point where it’s unnoticeable
@@WhySoSeriousGM Oh My. An X pipe in no way at all not even a little tiny bit create backpressure. NO quite the opposite actually. Please Please everyone never ever ever say that word backpressure again ... Shit man.
@@randyschmidt19 “scavenging” i use back pressure for the young ones it’s makes more sense to them point still stand, muffler delete doesn’t effect cars performance
@@randyschmidt19 it’s very hard to just correct someone nicely, you don’t have to be a jerk about it not everyone is a godly mechanic with unlimited knowledge like you are
@@WhySoSeriousGM well see this is very basic. Myths get perpetuated by using terms like that. You have been lied to about almost everything in life and in the information age we can all obtain and understand the facts so we are better. I grew up depending on magazines and TV shows that I believed were passing truth and I took it for fact. Later working in the industry I learned that those mags and shows just regurgitate manufacturer marketing. It's like that with percent of the things you see. I hate seeing people indoctrinated and passing misinformation so I am serious. Also I am kind of a dick... In a loving way😏
If deleting your Mids, would hurt performance or damage your vehicle. Dodge wouldve already addressed this issue. By putting out some kind of statement saying “Deleting mid mufflers will cause loss in performance and possibly damage your vehicle and void your warranty”. And there are thousands of muffler shops across America doing this. And not one mechanic has ever told me. “ Hey pal, I gotta warn you I wouldn’t do this.” The Mids on these cars are basically a straight through design anyways. Cutting the Mids off does not affect performance, only sound. Your X-pipe should provide enough “back pressure”. But if you’re one of those OCD guys that wants it clean, drop 1200 on a Borla or Corsa for a nice clean look and that “distinctive brand sound”. But if you just want some extra sound cutting the Mids off for 100-200 dollars, won’t hurt you Bro. It seems like he didn’t want to do it, and was trying to sell you an aftermarket system that he had overstocked in the back. If you ever decide to sell the car or trade your car in, keep the factory mufflers and have them reinstalled. My Son has a 2020 Charger Scatpack WIdebody Smoke Show, with Mid delete. I personally myself, like the way the stock mufflers sound over the delete. I enjoy your content Bro, keep it up!👍
I wish they were still 1200 bucks 🥲 the one I'm putting on my wb in spring was 2400 😫
….modding your exhausts does void your warranty
Your engine is an air pump.
You want air out, as quickly as you can get it in.
Mid muffler delete is for sound, not performance.
Exactly
So it will cause no harm to the car? just wondering
@@adamnelson7067 no it won’t
@@adamnelson7067 the way I look at it is this; ever see a race car or drag car running mufflers for back pressure purposes? No, they want as little back pressure as possible. The only back pressure you would need is provided by the catalytic converters anyways. It's not like a two stroke where it needs a tuned exhaust for scavenging effect.
Lol, you reminded me to look up “ Living with Jigsaw”. Those are hilarious.
Look to me not everyone gots 1,200 or more for exhaust. Thats rent or mortgage payment or money you saving for vacation or hard times. We all don't need rolex and Invicta watch or G-shock just fine. If you got da bread drop it on exhaust. Do what u want to your car just do dont up badge it lol.
@@mobent912 they don't even keep the cars long enough for that. They keep the car 1-2 years then dump it for something else. Then if they do, they don't keep up maintenance and claim shops are scamming when their engine goes out.
Mechanic his whole life but called the resonators mufflers🤣
Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
This guy seems to have good intentions but it makes no difference. Won’t hurt the car. I’ve cut the mufflers off all 7 V8 trucks I’ve had and both of my camaros and had no issues. Many will say back pressure is a myth.
They say not to cut on N/A Motors they loose power. If it’s on boost/supercharged then that’s a diff story
A vehicle is designed and operates similar to a human body.A mid muffler acts like an expansion chamber,so the exhaust gasses flow more efficiently.If you cut out your two lungs,and replace them with tubes,guess what,your not going to breath properly.If you do remove the mid mufflers,you replace them with a similar design,that keeps the purpose,but gives you a different tone.Same thing goes for intake tubing,if you remove the baffled tubing,and replace with straight tubing.The intake will be louder,but doing that can rob hp,the air is not flowing efficiently.All these mods,that I mentioned, are compliments to a bigger build with proper tuning.
@@jakoidtongeHey I just bought a 2021 Dodge Charger RT and I deleted the two resonators on it it did make it a bit loud nothing crazy but I been seeing videos on how it can cause back pressure or droning what would you recommend me doing to it next? should I modify or installing anything on my charger rt? I wouldn't like to mess with my engine efficiency or damage anything.
Fake news
The "car exhaust needs back pressure" myth completely goes against how exhaust scavenging works to evacuate the combustion chamber. The higher the back pressure the lower the exhaust velocity. The lower the exhaust velocity the less vacuum is generated from the headers pulling spent air out of the chambers during valve overlap. I will agree that proper materials need to be used with good welding.
Just cut my mids yesterday on my new widebody scat, best thing I ever did
@Le Ri same here dawg
Yep, love my new badass exhaust sound. Stock exhaust is great and everything, but it's just not loud enough. I want my car to roar to match the way it looks. Scatpacks should not sound like V6 cars.
@leri3365 Hey man I know its two years later but I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man.
@@quorthunsargeras7054Hey I just bought a 2021 Dodge Charger RT and I deleted the two resonators on it it did make it a bit loud nothing crazy but I been seeing videos on how it can cause back pressure or droning what would you recommend me doing to it next? should I modify or installing anything on my charger rt? I wouldn't like to mess with my engine efficiency or damage anything.
So if this the case why is literally every race car straight piped? You want the most flow out of the motor thats how power is made. Im not an advocate for cutting up your shit like a loony with a hack saw but this is another one of those uneducated (ass)umptions because with a tune you should be making power off of cat and muff deletes not losing it. Especially on the top end where flow and rpm are king
Say you got gapped by a loud 392 without saying you got gapped by a loud 392. 😂
The man is a mechanic, not an engineer (no disrespect). The idea of needing back pressure is a myth, and he even points out no cat/high flow cat would help make power. A straight 3” pipe will make more power (MotorTrend busted this myth in a great 2.5” vs 3” comparison). And FWIW - he called the resonator a muffler…
I KNEW IT!! I freaking knew it!! Had a mechanic explain this to me when I was 19. I had a 96' Police Interceptor Crown Victoria I wanted to put Dale Eastman exhaust on. I wanted to know why mine was going to cost $300+ when my boi paid around $100 for his exhaust. Long story short, I listened & let him to the job. Had duel exhaust coming out behind the wheels, & it sounded so good my pops was jealous, & he had GT Mustang with Flows on it. Mine sounded just as deep, if not deeper than his car. I just thought stuff had changed now that everyone was getting the 30 minute slap stick exhaust jobs on all their Chargers, & Challengers. Good to know. 😎🤝
@starscream2541 Hey there I know its two years later but I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt and one month in I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp or any torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man.
It always blows me away that people buy these cars and the first thing they do is head to the muffler shop to have mid muffler delete just to get the plop plop plop sound. They act like they know more than the Dodge engineers. Give me a break. Stop fucking up your 392 with this mod.
Him: Say all this 🙄
Me: cool story bro are u goin to do the muffler delete or not??? 😂
I deleted the mid muffler on my 21 scat here about a month ago and replaced it with the Dynomax Mini Race Bullets and I have noticed no loss in performance. I’m sort of OCD about that kind of thing and I would have noticed. Maybe what I did is better than just welding in a straight pipe in place of the mid mufflers. That sounds too raspy anyways. Also Have fun spending $2000+ for a full cat back system just for sound and no power gain. The 392 is optimized already from the factory so full exhaust does nothing for power.
I’m super happy with the race bullets
I’m also satisfied with my Race Bullets.
I’m really happy with mine too. Added some rumble and volume without being too extremely raspy and loud like the straight pipe muffler delete.
Give it about 4-5 months down the line when your exhaust settles. That sounds is amazing
Just put The race bullet mufflers on My 1320 challenger car sounds great And no loss of power
I don't see nothing wrong with a mid muffler delete, my car sounds great with it, still have my cats and back mufflers,. I have no complaints. Best $100 I spent on Smurffet.
Say swear...everyone keeps saying they spent 100$ on the delete. Why I get charged $300. No cap...I'm pissed
@@chucko5960 word bro, I went to Bobs mufflers in goldsboro nc,
I’m thinking of getting mine done. $120 resonator delete and straight pipes
@@DavyDave1313Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
@@Smurf345.Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
That stupid mechanic is a sales man. He wants to sell you an unnecessary expensive exhaust system. For commission bonuses.
Crazy how someone can do something for 25 years and still not know what their talking about
Yea I’m with what the guy explained.. I’m not cutting shit off my 2021 scatpack. It already sounds mean.. and when I’m cruising it doesn’t have that drone sound thinking it’s a damn truck when I’m passing by.. quiet when I’m cruising & sounds mean when I open her up..💯
There's no drone when you cut them off. Just sounds slightly louder and more aggressive on WOT outside of the car.
@@quorthunsargeras7054 Yea that’s koo.. My scatpack is loud enough for me strait from the factory lol.. my neighbors already hates my scatpack because of the sound.. don’t need it any louder.. Hey if you got IG check it out on my page. Tayy24
@@quorthunsargeras7054Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
@@tayyc6074Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
I'd love to hear the school this guy went to for his engineering degree 🙌
dude tryin to pimp you for a 1500 exhaust, these cats have ZERO clue what there talking about, lol🤣 Ive had full straights for 3 years. GO TO A DIFFERENT SHOP, or let homeboy get u for his "custom" exhaust job w knock off magnaflos and is basically a stock muffler.
This whole thing with back pressure sounds like something people who hate loud cars made up to scare kids 🤣🤣 don’t listen to em
I'm with the rest of the comments. I'm calling this BS is BS. Your mechanic doesn't know what he is talking about.
A lot on inaccuracies and rants especially on the performance end , however value to investment perspective is on point .
its been dyno proven that mid muffler deletes do not harm power nor the car. been running it for a year and not a thing has happened. no hiccups, no cel, no power loss. cats yes but mids no.
this is what happens when someone was bad trained and they keep trying to train others
My widebody is catless, and striaght piped from the cats on. None of the factors he mentioned in this video happened to me. I did get a CEL on the dash, but that was because my air to fuel ratio was off because of the cat removal. I had my tuner that I've been working with for years, tune my car and both my HP and Torque are off the scale. I would say, do some research before modding, 2nd and 3rd opinions do matter.
if u cut tha cats out did it throw ya oxygen sensor?? u got codes?
Mids do nothing but change tone brodie it’s deleted cats without a proper tune that hurts the car lmaoo
Keep it factory is the best advice I can give you all these guys swear they know what they’re doing
The condescending tone from this jackals is exactly what the world needs now. Love the energy.
damn thats very informative....cut my pipes
Back pressure wont matter if you cut your mid muffler because you already got two resonators by your exhaust tips.
Here's the deal....the valves at the head is what makes back pressure. When you cut your mid muffler you are messing with the exhaust scavenging. This is not and never will be " back pressure ". It's been proven time and time , over and over . The one thing that cutting your exhaust will effect is " torque " . Most times when you mess with flow tuning with manifolds you loose low end torque but gain it up top. Flow disasters will always hurt hp/torque.....this is a bunch of " opinion , non education, personal " shit.
@robsorgdrager8477 I have a 2021 Dodge Charger Rt and recently did a resonator delete what exhaust would you recommend me installing ?
Some of these cars sound better left alone,do it right or leave it alone
"Tuning" for muffler deletes🤣
Someone better tell all the drag racers to stop running open headers. I mean they must be hurting performance with no exhaust right? Lmao
Right lol
Or any race car
You said it man. HE JUST WANTS YOU TO SPEND MORE MONEY> Don't believe everything you hear from a guy selling you. You gotta be smarter than that man.
YOU BURN MORE GAS, LOSE POWER AND THE SHIT IS LOUD IN THE CABIN. RUINS A DATE NIGHT!!💯💯
Some say it do some say it don't. Only thing I know is I'm riding around with my mid muffler off and the reso is next 🤷🏿♂️. Until I get the money for a Corsa.
the some that agree with Mr. 25 yr experience are WRONG!
@Goldchim Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
I fell the same way, I just spent the $2,000 and got a full Corsa exhaust system. Good thing is it's a whole bolt on if I don't want to keep my Durango I can unbolt and put factory exhaust system back on. Sound is better and no drone.💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
My son has a scat pack, he cut his pipes. He said now he burns way more gas than B4... I'll pass on that. I asked him why would you cut your pipes just to make your car louder, only to be running back and forth to the gas station more... I'm good. But hey it's not my car, have at it...
Yup..... just trying to tell people that don't do their research that they know what they're doing..... 4 STROKE ENGINES SHOULDN'T HAVE BACK PRESSURE!!!!! Legalities aside, I understand that you shouldn't cut out a cat, and your car is supposed to be quiet to comply with law. But the best exhaust for a 4 stroke engine, has ZERO restriction. You want back pressure in your car? Think you need it? Put a 2 stroke under the hood so that you're actually correct instead of thinking you are....
Solid advice thank you. The pipes are being cut tomorrow.
😂
Did u experience any problems im planing on adding dynomax
No problems, a little more drone than I’d like. But sounds nice under acceleration
This guy in the video here is a bit crazy. Buddy of mines father owns a dodge dealership and says a lot of the hellcats they have sold have been serviced and warrantied with no concern of the mid muffler delete. I cut mine out and my only regret is I should have done it sooner .
@@207shenanigans but its not too much drone and also can i put my stock mufflers back if i cut them
@@alexander_3923 th-cam.com/users/shorts9npKQSC3jD8?feature=share
It’s crazy cuz when I deleted the muffler and added an x pipe on my camaro I felt lighter and faster
Your mechanic won't let you cut the pipes on your car because he simply is tired of doing the work and not making the money doing it because it is so easy and cheap to do. He wants you to buy and have him install an aftermarket kit because he will make more money in labor putting it on when you can literally do it yourself for free.
“Here’s my man, the one and only... Pep Guardiola!”
I did a resonater delete and replaced stock mufflers on my Mustang; I added an H pipe and Roush Mufflers. This mod saved weight and made car sound amazing.
I used to have a 2015 5.0 did the mishimoto h pipe and roush axleback
I have a R/T pretty sure the 392 is the same the mid muffler is just an open case no need for them but you put that aftermarket exhaust on and I garauntee u they’ll void that warranty and resale goes down
It doesn’t , intake , exhaust ...wheels don’t void it . Just got mine and asked
@@mlavine1980Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
Imma always cut my pipes lol
Long story short get a wide band afr or scan tool note your air fuel ratio at all driving condition. When you remove restrictive exhaust components you'll run more lean because air is moving through more freely which can feel like power loss so you'd need to extend injector duration - add more fuel to get back to your recorded afr. This is how you get the power which is why people say get a tune.
I dont think the mid deletes will cost any low end power - on that I disagree with him. Having said that, cutting the mids off the scats wont improve your hp at all, either. It is purely a sound change. Nothing more. What I do agree with him, though, is that replacing the nicely built and high quality (and not restrictive either) oem mids with cheap parts… that cheapens the car. Have you ever heard of lambos and porsches or even m trim bmw owners “cutting their pipes”? Or replacing their high quality oem mufs with cheap loud ones? No. Why? Cos thats what ricers do. If you cant appreciate the car that you bought, then return it, dont cut and patch it. Thats for cheap hondas, done by cheap ricers. (Buying a fully built aftermarket catback, is another story, I am only talking about cheapening / cutting / patching your awesome car here). Do it proper, or keep it proper.
Obviously some people just believe the BS that they are fed! 😂🤣😂
After a mid muffler delete you want to either install an X pipe or H pipe in its place. Backpressure is not necessarily a myth. Thank me later, cant dispute this. Put it on a dyno.
@WHITSnWOODS Hey man I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt & its been one month in and I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone situation what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp/torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man I do regret deleting the resonator without doing much research otherwise I would of invested in a better exhaust.
Stupid. Mid muffler delete is totally fine, it doesn't effect the performance at all. He just wants to sell a full exhaust intake and tune.
Hes nuts. Its the best mod I've done so far
Im a huge gearhead and have owned many high horsepower builds. If theres one thing I try and teach my buddies, it's to not make the same mistakes I have modifying my cars. The biggest is "back pressure". Throughout the years I have tried deleted cats, mid pipes, full through exhausts and I will be the first to say that this man is 1000% CORRECT WITH EVERY WORD. You will lose power down low, almost everytime, and to me the gains up high (if any) arent worth the extra noise. Not to mention feeling like a "13 year old boy buying bubblegum" 🤣
I agree 100% it won't matter in high RPM but it definably will hurt low RPM torque
While yes you can lose power in the low end from a free flowing exhaust. thats without a tune. as soon as you make corrections to the tune you WILL gain power with a free flowing exhaust. the main thing to go for when doing you exhaust is proper scavenging. Long tubes and an x-pipe is whats gonna make power, not a muffler for “back pressure”
Easy way for him to sell you a full exhaust system. Dudes spitting mostly nonsense
Clearly he doesn't like loud cars. Mid mufflers do nothing but muffle sound.
@ronde6856 Hey man I have a question if I replace my existing factory exhaust with a borla or corsa exhaust system will that void my warranty and is it worth installing it l? I just want a deeper sound and better performance by the way I have a 2021 Dodge Charger Rt with resonator deletes currently.
Where is this mechanic shop at ?
I wanna know to so I can slap the stupid out of him
Back pressure is mostly a myth though. It is not a significant cause for concern; if it was 10,000hp dragsters wouldn't have zoomie headers.
What is really important, is scavenging, and the stock x and h pipes on Chargers and Challengers does that perfectly, with or without mufflers or resonators.
@PotatoeJoe69 Hey man I have a question if I replace my existing factory exhaust with a borla or corsa exhaust system will that void my warranty and is it worth installing it I just want a deeper sound and better performance by the way I have a 2021 Dodge Charger Rt with resonator deletes currently.
He is full of $hit! If it was an issue a check engine lite would come on. I cut my mid muffler a year ago on my 2019 scat no issues! He wants to sell you a high dollar muffler. Old cars only had one muffler no cat at all , and they ran and sounded better that todays cars.
Exhaust back pressure being a good thing is a COMPLETE MYTH! Coming from a Certified Auto Technician and Shop Forman
Believe engine masters debunked this myth
Thank u knock out 360 for that information 💪🏾
Dude said yea through the whole video 😭😂
When he started using words like openist I stop listening lol
I'm glad someone finally said it. The factory exhaust setup is just fine and has been engineered for optimum performance.
The car manufacturers have to meet a certain decibel level as required by the government.
He is 100% right with my scatpack, i didint feel as fast when i was stock
@ctetuning Hey there I know its two years later but I recently bought my first 2021 dodge charger rt and one month in I already did two resonator delete on my charger but im worried about the "back pressure" or drone what would you recommend me doing next? I wouldn't like to loose hp or any torque nor do I want to cause damage to my engine please help me with any advice should I install or modify anything else? god bless you man.
@@jesus_rt345 lol hey man, i would do sometype of mid muffler delete. I done that and it was great i didint loose power and it wont mess up warranty. God bless you as well 🙏
@@ctetuninghey man would replacing my existing factory exhaust with a borla or corsa exhaust system void my warranty and is it worth installing it for a deeper sound and performance? I have a 2021 Dodge Charger Rt with resonator deletes currently.
family been in the muffler business for over 35 years. this man just didnt wanna do the job. the mufflers are basically a straight through design packed with fiberglass, theres no baffles on the inside or nothing. theyre only job is to "muffle" the exhaust. thats it. if you still got converters and shit on you got plenty of "back pressure" just from those
After watching this video my take away was where'd he get that rear spoiler? All the rest was nonsense to me. 🤣