Why I'm Selling BOTH Of My Black Bay 58s: It's My Black Bay Pro’s Fault
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The Tudor Black Bay 58 was released back in 2018 to universal praise and for good reason. Tudor finally created a smaller 39mm vintage diver that wears incredibly well. Tudor then continued on to release the slightly more modern looking BB58 Blue and this was my chance to finally experience the solid refinement and simplicity of a Black Bay. The following year Tudor made waves again by introducing the Black Bay 58 925 which is not only a precious metal BB58 but one done in silver with a grey dial and bezel. This was the perfect combination for me and I had to get it.
So if these iterations of the BB58 were so seemingly perfect, why have I decided to sell both of them? Well there are quite a few reasons that slowly compounded over the years and then there is the Black Bay Pro, Tudors all new smaller sized GMT watch, based off of the Rolex Explorer II (one of my favorite watch designs). So in this video, I’m going to go over two things, first why, the BB58s more so the BB58 Blue were almost constantly near or on the proverbial chopping block even before the BB Pro came into the picture, and then I’m going to get into why the BB Pro sealed the deal and pretty much killed off my BB58s despite them being the wonderful watches that they are.
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The Decision - 00:00
Why The BB58s Were “Always For Sale” - 01:35
How The BB Pro Killed Off The BB58s - 06:52
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Check out my post about my BB58s on WatchCrunch!
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I kinda feel like you tend to convince yourself that the newest watch is the better watch for you. I could be wrong about this but just my observation.
Getting the first scratch on my new Explorer 124270 helped me quite a bit. I accepted it quickly and accepted the fact that it naturally comes with wearing it.
I sold off about 5 watches after I got the Pro, it covers off pretty much all my casual watch needs, so bb58 went, Seiko spb147 adios, Hamilton Pilot Pioneer byesy bye, and finally danke shon to the Sinn 556a but y’all must go. I love that your videos are not just constant spec sheets but more discussing your collection journey, which is really relatable
After watching countless videos of the BB pro being too thick etc and I still went for it without trying it on 😅… when I unboxed before I even put it on wrist I was in love. 4 months later I’m head over heels. Congrats on 10k!
How big are your wrists? I really want the Pro but I have 6.5" wrist on a good day!
@@elwynll I just bought it about two weeks ago with a 6.5" wrist and I'm loving every moment with it
Congratulations on reaching 10k subs. well deserved! Really enjoy your channel!
Congrats on 10k subs! Great video, we have the same wrist size so it’s great to get this perspective.
Thank you so much for the support, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Glad I could help with the perspective, for me the size of the BB58 and the BB Pro is pretty much perfect but thats because i tend to prefer watches in the 38-40mm range.
Congrats on 10k! I bought my BB58 on a strap and then got a Forstner Jubilee bracelet, which is very well made, looks terrific and adds to the vintage vibes, and it fits perfectly. I love my Tudor - it got more wrist time this year than any of my watches, including my Rolex. Cheers!
Hey, congratulations on your new milestone and thanks for sharing your concerns on those BB58s' shortcomings and dissatisfaction to us. Though I have mentioned on retaining these BBs' over other watches in the past, you know what's ultimately best for your watch interest. Well done on your reasoning and decision.
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Love my BB58 blue more each day. Can't stop looking at it. I feel it's a future icon.
The BBPro looks much thicker than the BB58. Love the way it looks. But it's tough to get under a cuff. Congrats on the 10k subs!!
Awesome journey. Glad you are enjoying bracelets. Have tried on the Heritage BB GMT? Also has a phenomenal bracelet. But the bi directional bezel and 41mm size make it the best Black Bay in my opinion. Cheers.
Great video and congrats on the 10k subs milestone! ;) I agree my friend, if I were you I would also be selling the two BB58s, cheers! 🙂
Great video and walk through of reasoning.
I’m secretly hoping for a polar dial variant of the BB Pro. That would be amazing!
Thanks Marc, glad to hear that you enjoyed the video and that it was cohesive too 😂 Yeah a polar variant would be super cool and would really be the only watch that could threaten my BB Pro's position in the collection. Lets see what happens next year!
@@thewatchidiot keep up the great work. I find your opinions so relatable too and think about a lot of the same things - should I have so much money tied up in something that doesn’t bring me complete joy, etc.
Bb58 is definitely my forever watch, loving the pro too
Nice video, you voice is soothing for me. Lol 💦 keep it up! Welcome to the 10K club
All great watches, appreciate your point of they on all 3. Love the 58s a bit more personally, but I can see why the pro edges them out for you. Great video 👊😊
The BB58 blue is the reason I won't be buying the BB Pro. It grows on me more and more the longer I have it, which is unusual for me, and I think it's now my favourite watch.
I am loving the BB Pro ! Picked it up from my AD Last Friday. I waited about 2 months for it to come in.
You did you… and that’s what matters. Congratulations! Keep it up!!
The Tudor BB58 is an enigma to me. I wanted one for so long until I got it on the wrist. It's a good sized watch, looks nice but once it's on the wrist the experience is so bland. If it were food, it'd be porridge. Fills you up and gives tones of calories but completely uninspiring and dull. I owned mine for just under 3 months before I moved it on. Also congrats on 10k subs.
To each their own. Every time I put on my BB58 I get excited and I love every minute it’s on the wrist. I never get tired of looking at it. And I have a lot of crazy watches from micro brands. To me the BB58 got everything almost perfect (save lacking on the fly clasp). But it’s very subjective. Like the BB pro - I think it’s ugly as sin and I wouldn’t ever want one.
@@Kinegos 100% agree. Life would be boring if we all liked the same things. My current love is a 62mas. It gets so much wrist time and is an icon but others will tell you that Seiko are crap watches... All that matters is that you enjoy the watch and ignore what anyone else says.
Totally agree. Tudor as well as most Rolexes are very good quality watches, probably with the best bracelets in the business but over all quiet boring design-wise. But that probably the reason why they are also more or less timeless
Spot on description. I kinda feel that with most watch purchases after the novelty wears off. So maybe it often is all about the buying process than the actual watch itself. But with the Tudor BB58 it definitely is the porridge of watches to me as well.
Completely makes sense, I do hear a few complaints that it doesn’t fit well but it seems perfect on my wrist and I believe Uncle Seiko sell a half link which helps. Either way when it’s got to go it’s got to go! And I’m glad you like the pro so much 👌🏽
I’m a “tool watchy-watch guy” too! Love the BB Pro! And pretty much all the other Tudors too. Lol. Great video! Thank you!
Great video, and I can see why you're selling them. One of the main reasons I purchased the BB Pro was the clasp. I also love the vintage look it has. I have a feeling you'll pick up another BB58 when the new one comes out. Hopefully Tudor releases it early next year. I'm sure it's going to have the new T-fit clasp. And I believe it will once again be Tudors best selling watch. Tudor is giving it's customers a nice range of beautiful watches to choose from, the new 39mm Pelagos, Ranger, and the Pro all released this year. Congrats on the 10k subscribers.
how do you know that another BB58 is coming out? is it announced? - that would be awesome.
@@Marco-jc4zx Nothing official from Tudor yet. But I've heard some rumors. One of them was from my local AD. Tudor is planning something for next year, couldn't really go into specifics. In late June of this year, my AD told me that a new watch would be released. That ended up being the Ranger in early July. The Pelagos 39 was a surprise since I didn't visit my AD for some time. But as soon as it came out I was contacted. Fingers crossed in the hopes that it is an updated BB58, as it would be a anniversary year for that model. If they don't update it with a T-fit clasp like on the Bronze version and other models. I think they'd be leaving possible sales on the shelf with their most popular model. Not everyone is a fan of the Pro, Ranger or the new Pelagos. I love the Pro and that's why I purchased one, but you hear very little hate of the BB58. But you do hear watch fans say I wish this model had the updated clasp. As do I. I'll try to get more info from my AD and see if they have any news. Thank you.
Thank you so much for your support! Yeah the BB Pro is a special watch for sure and the TFIT clasp is a game changer for Tudor, I'd still love the BB Pro withiut the clasp but it wouldn't have achieved keeper status so quickly without it. Yeah I still live the BB58 so whenever the new one comes out I'm sure it'll rank highly on my wishlist. Fingers crossed we see some great stuff next year!
Congrats with hitting the 10k man👍
Thank you so much!! hopefully the first of many more big milestones! Thanks for the support😁
Yup...I get it....the stock setup on my BB58 is absolutely divine...... just a perfectly balanced watch for me....but if it wasn't... I'd be in the same boat as u were
I love my BB58 blue. It’s the only Tudor that I really love. Interested in seeing the BB Pro in the metal as it’s the only
Tudor I’m interested in.
so sad. :-( but I understand. The 925 is pretty awesome on a strapcode oyster bracelet, but I do also love wearing it on custom leather straps. Imagonna just wait for the blue Pelagos 39mm. I'm thinking the Pro is a bit heavier than the BB58s, no?
You’re making me consider so much of my life right now 😂
Congrats on the 10k once again! Your reasoning for selling the BB58s make sense for sure especially given the addition of the BB Pro. I've come to understand your preferences and the BB Pro definitely does seem to be more of a TWI watch than the other two. Either way I'm sure there will be more BB58s that click for you in the future!
Thank you once again Ed for the support! Yeah despite my love for dive watches the BB Pro does seem to be a more "TWI" watch for sure. And you're absolutely right, I'm sure Tudor will release a BB58 at some point that will bring the BB58 line back to life in my collection! I'm looking forward to it 😁
Your reasoning makes sense. If a watch isn't being worn imo it's money wasted. Sell it or pay it forward to someone who would love it. At least your growth shows you what your heart desires as opposed to following a trend in your collection.
Yeah I completely agree, I also just feel plain guilty having that much locked away in a watch that's sitting there! And like you said it's my collection evolving and accepting that it's changing so who knows one day my collection might be dominated by time only watches!
I like the subject of the video, I would have kept the BB58 made of silver and the pro, but I understand why you did sell it
It's really interesting how our brains work and I think you explained it very well TWI. As soon as we 'think' about selling an item because it's not being used that seed is planted, the less likely we are to use it so it becomes ma self fulfilling prophecy. I can to totally understand the trigger to sell your BB58's following the purchase of the BB Pro. Although I'm more than happy with my BB58 (black and guilt model) this may be the watch that has had a little less wrist time since I got my BB Pro. For me I'll be keeping them both but I can understand that it was time to move on.Thanks for sharing TWI.
Black and guilt, perfect description for watch collecting
Was waiting for more content on BB Pro 👍
lol I'm glad this video came up at the right time then! More to come from the BB Pro 😁
The 925 is one of the best looking watches out there …
Shit! I almost forgot. Congratulations on the 10k brother. Keep up the great work.
lol thank you for all your support AJ, lots more to come from the channel!
So essentially, you physically couldn’t wear them because you were between links and prefer divers on bracelets, and you just personally like watches with more pizazz. I love the BB58 blue and own one and it fits me perfectly and has a timeless look that I think is incredible.
im having a similar problem with my bb 58. I have the blue one and i love the case and dial sizing etc. I literally hate the clasp. its so damn uncomfortable. Im considering grabbing the forstner bb58 jubilee and calling it a day.
I remember you did a video on the T-fit bracelet on the BB58, I’ve heard the bracelet for the Tudor Ranger with its T-fit will fit the BB58, As a Blue Bay owner who has no intent to sell, was kinda hoping you might be the canary in the coal mine and find out if that was true or jot. 😂
I have the BB58 blue, BB41 blue bezel, BB Pro, BB GMT s&g and BB41s&g (non-movable gold bezel). I still love all these watches and have been rotating them like 2 different watches per day. I have asked myself if one day I need to sell my watches due to financial difficulties, which one will be the first to be sold first. It's the BB Pro! Simply because it can fetch the highest price at resale market and it is still in the best condition (all my other watches somehow have accumulated lots of fine scratches). I hope I will never have to sell any of my watches. Looking forward for your future video on "Why I'm Selling My Black Bay Pro: It's My [some watch in future]’s Fault" 😄
Thats an awesome BB collection you gut there! Yeah if I ever needed to fire sale watches in an emergency, the BB Pro would be the first to go too, due to how much i can get for it and how quickly i could get it. But that being said the BB Pro is pretty deeply set in as a core keeper watch! It just clicked immediately in a way that very few other watches clicked with me and in a way that the BB58s didnt. But hey, I'll never say never because anything can happen in this weird world lol!
A no brainer. The Black Bay Pro & the Pelagos are the ones to keep.
A little late for the Bb58 blue, but uncle Seiko sold half links for cheap
Yeah I actually got one as soon as I found out about them! And the hjalf link did get my fit right but unfortunately it was a bit too late because i was mentally ready to sell the BB58 which led me to not wearing it very much with the half link. I wonder how different things would have been if the timing was right lol!
Any tips on getting a bbp in Ontario. I must have contacted all ads withing 300 km radius in the GTA and all claims they don't have it. Been looking since July.
Accept that you're not going to get one
I thought the BB Pro is top heavy compared to BB58? But honestly I think the BB Pro looks better on your wrist, BB58 is a tad small.
Just buy a watch you truly like (or multiple). Let the dust settle on the hype and make a real informed decision, then enjoy wearing said watch(s) and go make every scratch remind you of your life.
To each their own, but I think the pro pales in comparison to the 58 line. Also, If you’re in between sizes, you can order the uncle Seiko half link that is made specifically for the 58s
WAIT! Don’t this hunky BeefLord eventually sell is Black Bay Pro?!?
I’m confused…
10,000 subs? Huge congratulations Mr Idiot. Like you, I think that the Pro is a wonderful watch, although I realise that Tudor is a brand that polarises opinion. So: enjoy your slimmed down collection... I will just quietly envy you, owning and wearing that Pro... Stay safe my friend, and I look forward to the next video. 🙂👋
Thank you so much Robert, your support is much appreciated! Yeah Tudor is a polarizing brand for sure but in the end if a brand makes a good watch I'm all for it! Yeah I think I'll be able to enjoy the collection more now that the guilt is being cut down lol. Thanks as always and i'll see you in the next video!😁
@@thewatchidiot A question... what is this word "guilt"? I'm not familiar with the term... Don't forget that the ideal watch collection is "N+1, where N is the number of watches you've already got..." ! 😉👋
What's your wrist size?
Just a touch over 7.5 inches👍
I kind of feel the same about my blue black bay. My first and only Tudor watch and idk just was not for me I guess. My biggest complaint is the fit. I can’t get a perfect size on my wrist despite having the uncle seiko half link. Then I don’t like the bracelet. For me it is a bit too thin in width. That might sound silly but it’s probably the first thing I noticed about it when I got it on my wrist. Then I don’t like it not having a date. Maybe I’m in a minority but I prefer my watches to have a date function. I have mine listed on eBay and Reddit to sell mine haha.
And another thing to add, I got a black dial oris aquis caliber 400 41.5mm and it had dominated my wrist time lately!
lol if only they added an extra microadjust hole especially since theres space for it on the clasp! I got the uncle seiko half link and the fit worked out for me but there were other little problems and then the main issue about whether or not it was worth having that much money locked in a watch i wasnt wearing as much.
I'm with you on having the date function, i conceptually like no date and i think it looks great but having a date is just so helpful that i miss it when i wear my BB58s or speedy! Also the Oris Aquis 400 is so awesome the aquis has been on my radar for years now and i never got around to it bc of the inability to swap straps but now that I'm a full on bracelet guy i think its time to make the jump! How does the 41.5mm wear conmpared to the BB58? I'm guessing they're quite similar given the case design of the Aquis
@@thewatchidiot the aquis wears super well. I have a 7 inch wrist and could EASILY went 43 mm but I wanted the newer movement. It’s thicker than the bb58 but I think it’s just way more my style for sure. Doesn’t feel like 41.5mm at all I don’t think: they’re very close in that regard!
The black BB 58 was mildly interesting at first. The blue one is as interesting as a blue VW Golf.
Great video. The pro is a great watch with the T fit bracelet. However, the BB58 blue is almost perfect to me. Granted the bracelet can let it down but I'm fortunate to be able to get a perfect fit with it. When they add the T fit you will be back lol. This hobby is so addictive
Beautiful watch…Looks a little too small for your wrist though.
Wow- selling both! But I am sure you'll never sell the Pelly.
I’d keep the 925
I was close to keeping it but I'm glad that it found a good home with someone who'll be able to use it more!
If only the crystal had double AR. For me a deal breaker.
If they fix the bb58 bracelet, then sell the pro!
Keep the enthusiasm going, but the blue AND the 925 is the same watch. Why was the blue harder to wear than the 925. Oh yeah I’m the idiot, it’s on a strap. Keep it up. 😊
Perhaps you were just bored of the 58? Afterall you do own two of them, i had a similar experience where i let my greed get the better of me, two exact same watches with different dial colors. It got boring really fast and made me appreciate it less
Good choice 👍
I have the pro coming my way and your videos have been hyping me up
Thats awesome to hear man! I'm usually a little wary of setting other's expectations but the BB Pro is just such a special watch, 5 months on and i have zero doubts and it still feels so good! Hope you get yours soon, I'd love to hear your thoughts!
I think eventually you will regret selling the blue 58
No Tudor watches for me, too thick and I hate snow flake hands
I have the Olko Steinhart steel bezel, that’s as close as I get.
We knew this the day you bought the useless 925
Hey big Guy, I kind of understand how you feel about being extra paranoid about wearing certain higher end watches, but I made a mental switch. Did the watch belong to me? Or did I belong to the watch? I chose the former and you'd be surprised on how I'm just banging them around and not letting them keep me from having fun. I'm going on a 2-week hunting trip and guess what's coming with me, Rolex Hulk and I'm talking about River rafting and building survival bunkers. No Tents, Fire Pits and potential Rain and Mud. It was a Bruce Williams vid that inspired me to enjoy what these watches are supposed to do. Kinda sad about you getting rid of your BB's but you're doing it the right way in my opinion. If you've lost that lovin feelin like in some relationships, you move on and find that one that re-kindles the flame. (So, to Speak). Cheers! Buddy.👍
I actually tend to subconsciously baby all my watches even my seikos lol! The price aspect will remain but for me even when i try to get some character scratches on my SKX or Alpinist i cant just bc I'm naturally always aware of where my hand is. Thankfully over the course of 5 years I've managed to get some character scratches on my Pelagos, mainly because its achieved rock solid keeper status. I'm hoping to get more so i think its time to watch that BW video and take it out for a 2 week hunting trip!
Yeah I'm sad about selling my BB58s too but in the end once i think that i might sell a watch, i pretty much stop wearing said watch just so I can keep the watch pristine and from there its just a downward spiral of not being able to rekindle the flame because I'm just not wearing it! Onwards to the next watch 😂
Can Tudor just release a BB58 GMT already?! 🥹
If they fix the bb58 bracelet, then sell the pro!
If they fix the bb58 bracelet, then sell the pro!