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The reason it did not work the first time was that the 2 LiPo batteries together in series gives roughly 7.4 volts which is way above what the iPhone 7 needs which is 3.7. The abnormality is what could have caused the boot loop since it didn’t know what to do with all the power at once. In fact you’re lucky you didn’t fry anything
These batteries must be in parallel and not in series. I'm not sure if the phone can handle more than 6 volts on the battery traces. Most smaller chips are limited at 5.5 volts at the absolute maximum ratings
Don't think the people at Apple would like this and I'm not even sure why they wouldn't. I just know they would not approve in the least. If you took this step any further they would get their people to cripple this workaround with a firmware update. Guaranteed.
its using a real bms board i dont think they can patch it out i dont think apple will care they dont care about hackintoshes and thats a way larger number of people than who would ever do this
Now I really wanna try making a giant battery, a 3d printed thick af iphone housing, and some really long screen ribbon cables and make the thickest iphone ever
All Batteries that are made up of Li-ion technology have the same characteristics when considering the voltage. i.e 3.8v = 50%, 4.2v = 100% above 4.2 = explosion and below 2.9 = dead etc. so, you can swap anything with anything. Always make sure that the BMS board is compatible. that's all it need.
Just a thought… at the end you said you might drill a hole in the back for the battery. But a cleaner look would be to 3d print an edge piece that the screen and the back can snap to. Make the edge thick enough and the new battery looks like it could fit inside the phone. You’d end up with a chunky iPhone but 10ah would be worth the extra thickness.
This looked like an awesome experiment, personally I wish phone manufacturers would forget trying to make the thinnest device possible, and instead just offer the best performance and battery life possible. A phone with 10,000mAh battery would be insane (plus it would then have the thickness to offer headphone jack, expandable storage, and basically every other feature that was useful, but has since departed us).
I will say because I've experienced it that if your phone has a giant battery it'll be super heavy. I had a huge battery case for my phone that made my phone last like three or four days (usually 2.5) on full charge of both batteries.
Just place the wireless powerbank at the back of the phone. Easy solution. Here, in India iPhone 12 battery replacement cost is Rs. 6000/- So, I ended up buying a 10,000 mAh wireless charging powerbank at half of the replacement cost and it magnetically get attached to the phone.
I did this to my old androids Sgs2, sgn4, a70 and a few tablets as they are making timelapse videos and should survive poweroutages while running hard. The sgn4 i modded because i was using it hard and used 3 metal-cased lipos on the back with cosmetic and somewhat protective plasticcasing. Used it ss a daily driver for 3 yesrs in that condition adding 3 years of life to the device as the batteries was getting hard to get by bc of the devices age. Used it for a total of 6,5 years.
Are there any risk that we exclude a power bank controller from the electrical circuit? I thought to do the same thing with my old Samsung but to solder it to a power bank output instead of direct connection to a phone bms board
My little brother just opened his iPhone SE 2nd gen that was broken and I looked inside and it was in the best condition an inside an iPhone I’ve seen in a while and he doesn’t have any experience with opening iPhones he just pride it open
Energizer did this a while back with an 18,000mAh battery. I'm pretty sure the product failed, but it was also super thick and absurdly heavy for a phone.
First of all, I love your Videos. This is a funny idea but it seems like you have missed something very important. The Battery from the Powerbank has a nominal voltage of 3.7V and a voltage of 4.2V when fully charged. The Iphones Battery however has a slightly higher Voltage of 3.8V and around 4.4V when fully charged. That means if you charge up the Battery with the Iphones BMS you will overcharge it and it could be a fire hazard. Even though both are Lithium Ion-Polymer Batteries they have different voltages per cell.I have encountered this voltage problem myself as I did the Same you did with a Galaxy s7.
@@surapurna thats possible but sadly there are many sellers who rebrand normal or even used batteries as higher capacity. It is possible to make a fitting cell with a slightly higher capacity but you still have the physics of a battery that limits its capacity. Else we would have much bigger capacity batteries in our phones:)
Back in the days of (easily) replaceable batteries, I bought a replacement battery for my Windows Mobile Pocket PC with more than double the mAh. I don’t know why I expected it to be of the same size. It was thick and came with a replacement back cover as well. Worked fine but phone became much thicker. At least the power lasted longer.
He gets it from mobilesentrix, but their generally more business oriented, for person I would use injured gadgets, or ebay if you feel like searching for oem and stuff
my idea.....for gamming phone.....also you should keep that in mind, a 3D printed back cover to fit that battery (and to keep a little gap for cooling)
I’ve done this about a year ago. I put 3 iphone 7plus battery on the back and glue it down. Also another one inside. Still powers on until now. Actually you need to activate the battery first after you disconnect it from the bms. You need a battery activator. Or you can charge it with your power supply. Just give 5volt about 10 sec and the battery should be good to go. The bms will go to "protect” mode after disconnecting the battery.
I just had this idea where the iPhone using (external) batteries instead of having internal batteries. It would've decreases the amount of heat when you're playing games and not to forget the weight too. Just wondering whether long cables/connector affect the power delivery to the logic board.
Maybe using some 18650 cells? But you would need to have a different BMS for the cells. Remember the Energizer's attempt to make a longest living phone?
@@John-zp2jm But I can move around different cities, without worrying about charger, power bank… I will be the happiest person to get a 20000 mAH power bank running android 12🫥
dude if you solder the 2 battery cells it powers the phone at 8.4v instead of the 4.2v the BMS is rated for ! if the BMS didn't have a security you would have fry the all iphone... you probably did this experiment without really knowing the risks. Glad it didn't smoke haha
Fun experiment. I'm just wondering if overcharging (well maybe not overcharging, but more a charge problem ;-) is an issue here, since the capacity of the new battery is much larger.
For anyone interested in trying this for their own, you're gonna need some higher power cells. Most smartphones these days use a 3.85v lithium battery that charges at up to 4.4v, and the average lithium cells found in power banks or other electronics have a voltage of 3.7 charged at 4.2v. Find a 10k mah 3.85v battery and it should work.
My cousin replaced his redmi note 8 battery that had turned into an inflatable pillow about a year ago and recently it puffed again. This time, we got a galaxy A50 battery and soldered the cell to the bms of note 8's battery. Worked like a charm and he says it lasts even longer than the original battery despite both being 4000 mah
Funny Thought, made me think about it. I concluded that it would be assessing the state of charge based on the battery voltage so it wouldn't do that 😅
This is extremely dangerous as the iPhone charges its batteries to 4,35V whereas standard Power bank and regular liion batterys only charge to 4.2V. By connecting the wrong bms you basically left the battery at the iPhones mercy. It will probably attempt to overcharge it and could destroy the cells, resulting in a blown Battery and a fire hazard. If you attempt this, watch the cell chemistry and rated voltage before soldering a foreign bms to it.
5:42 min: OMG, dude your soldered wires from the cell to the BMS are fully exposed, and then you literally just lower the *insanely conductive metal backing of the screen onto those bare contacts*?! You know that you could‘ve directly shorted out that 42Wh Battery without any protection. Honestly, that‘s just incredible…
You wont actually get to use the battery , mostly because all phones have a software hardwired capacity in them , meaning the phone knows what it should have (lets say 4000mAh) if you put a 10000 mAh it will just measure how much it consumes until gets to 4000 then will say you have 0% even though you are well above 60% , i say this from experience (not on a iphone but should be similar) a few years back when i tried to make a 28000 mAh android phone , i had to root it and declare in the files what capacity it had , i dont know if you can do this with the iphone but good luck !! I like your videos.
btw iPhone batteries are LiHv battery, (AKA has higher Max charged voltage(4.35 compared to normal lipo battery) so that power bank battery might have severe issue like swelling)
Hello bro I have replaced my iPhone battery.. a genuine apple battery. But I don’t know why it drains so fast. Have updated to latest iOS 15.6 So can you make a video to solve this matter? Thanks 🙏🏻
Bro im from trinidad and tobago and i actually soldered a 7 battery to a 6s bms board and used in the 6s up to this day....i think you should try remodelling the iphone frame with a bigger battery that would be spectacular...
I actually did this with my iPhone 7. Drilled a hole in the back and 3d printed a case. I tried multiple different batteries, from 5000-10000. In the end, the bms board was too hard to get a solid connection with the solder to deliver proper voltage.
i also did this project before on my iPhone 6s and I double taped the battery In the back of my phone,moreover, I get through the wire inside the screw hole under the iphone and get soldered the wire on the bms
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The reason it did not work the first time was that the 2 LiPo batteries together in series gives roughly 7.4 volts which is way above what the iPhone 7 needs which is 3.7. The abnormality is what could have caused the boot loop since it didn’t know what to do with all the power at once. In fact you’re lucky you didn’t fry anything
These batteries must be in parallel and not in series. I'm not sure if the phone can handle more than 6 volts on the battery traces. Most smaller chips are limited at 5.5 volts at the absolute maximum ratings
@@hristomirchev4026 good point.
@@hristomirchev4026 I'm surprised that the BMS survived that voltage without actually starting to discharge the batteries.
@@hristomirchev4026 also the actual voltages used are as small as 0.6v
That's what I wanted to say
Don't think the people at Apple would like this and I'm not even sure why they wouldn't. I just know they would not approve in the least. If you took this step any further they would get their people to cripple this workaround with a firmware update. Guaranteed.
who cares what apple thinks, they didn't give a shit to their customers since forever.
its using a real bms board i dont think they can patch it out i dont think apple will care they dont care about hackintoshes and thats a way larger number of people than who would ever do this
@NoisyGamer ur mum wears socks to bed don’t tell me to mind my own buisness
They wouldnt approve cuz they want u to waste ur money and buy a mew phone but just with a different design
yeah because they would release a new update just because one guy soldered a battery which has to much voltage to his iphone.
Now I really wanna try making a giant battery, a 3d printed thick af iphone housing, and some really long screen ribbon cables and make the thickest iphone ever
Make it durable like the 3GS
Yeee def do a 3d printed case for it
@@dirrology I don't have a 3d printer but I think thats a minor issue I got this
@@ceticx pcbway has 3d printing services and they offer materials that aren’t plastic
I would buy it!
We want a battery drain test once you get the phone assembled the way you want !! 😄
Genius! Thanks for pushing the boundaries for our entertainment 😀
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Yoooo i love ur channel
@@jackforlife101 😀💚
@@jackforlife101 😮😮
@@PhoneRepairGuru I love your channel you are so cool
how long does it take for your longest repair ever
Good question
@@Midblur it may be the airpods video but i’m not super sure
@xRhythm - ikr
20 feet
3 hours I think
Question: Where do you buy the screens that you use in repairs?
Mobilesentrix they only sell to people who have phone business and valid tax id
@@congthanhtran1894 ok thanks
Local electronics shop maybe? Idk, maybe online.
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All Batteries that are made up of Li-ion technology have the same characteristics when considering the voltage. i.e 3.8v = 50%, 4.2v = 100% above 4.2 = explosion and below 2.9 = dead etc. so, you can swap anything with anything. Always make sure that the BMS board is compatible. that's all it need.
Don’t worry, we love your videos no matter what. This, this kept me watching for the full six minutes. I didn’t even think of leaving lol
I skipped because too much talking
I love tech so much and I want to meet this person some day.. In Sha Allah
Hey. Life has got all those twists and turns. You’ve got to hold on tight and off you go. You will get through this.🤞🏽💯
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I’m not much of a tech guy, so why do I find these so satisfying?
Just a thought… at the end you said you might drill a hole in the back for the battery. But a cleaner look would be to 3d print an edge piece that the screen and the back can snap to. Make the edge thick enough and the new battery looks like it could fit inside the phone.
You’d end up with a chunky iPhone but 10ah would be worth the extra thickness.
My thoughts exactly
@Peter Knetter should make a fancy schmancy cardboard housing to keep that bad boy together in style
Great vid👍 Question:what’s the worst repair tool you have
This video quality is perfectly good bro, keep up the great content!!!
This looked like an awesome experiment, personally I wish phone manufacturers would forget trying to make the thinnest device possible, and instead just offer the best performance and battery life possible. A phone with 10,000mAh battery would be insane (plus it would then have the thickness to offer headphone jack, expandable storage, and basically every other feature that was useful, but has since departed us).
yeah i like thick phones alot
You should use ulefone or oukitel smartphone..
@@muhdaimanharith if only they offered quality near other manufacturers
This is one of the coolest videos about iPhones I have watched.
Really miss long videos and I’m glad that you feels better now 🙌🏻
You should make a custom 3d printed back to accommodate the bigger battery.
Best thing would be to 3D print a back that can accommodate the battery.
we'd love a tour of your workshop/setup! :)
So you could 3d print a case and use a MASSIVE battery? I’d love to buy such a case. Perfect for hiking.
I mean this is cool, but there already are iphone cases that do this.
I will say because I've experienced it that if your phone has a giant battery it'll be super heavy.
I had a huge battery case for my phone that made my phone last like three or four days (usually 2.5) on full charge of both batteries.
Phone repair Guru is the master of fixing phones!
Modding too
uh, no.
I did it with 4 18650 batteries on the Samsung S4, cool video BTW.👌
Everyone: yo that insane!😁
Apple: this is a game changer right there
Just place the wireless powerbank at the back of the phone. Easy solution. Here, in India iPhone 12 battery replacement cost is Rs. 6000/- So, I ended up buying a 10,000 mAh wireless charging powerbank at half of the replacement cost and it magnetically get attached to the phone.
It's great to see you making longer videos again. Welcome back!
I like the way he constantly repeats so...so...so...
I'm like waiting for it 😁
I did this to my old androids Sgs2, sgn4, a70 and a few tablets as they are making timelapse videos and should survive poweroutages while running hard. The sgn4 i modded because i was using it hard and used 3 metal-cased lipos on the back with cosmetic and somewhat protective plasticcasing. Used it ss a daily driver for 3 yesrs in that condition adding 3 years of life to the device as the batteries was getting hard to get by bc of the devices age. Used it for a total of 6,5 years.
Are there any risk that we exclude a power bank controller from the electrical circuit?
I thought to do the same thing with my old Samsung but to solder it to a power bank output instead of direct connection to a phone bms board
Would you mind doing a tutorial? I wanna do it on my old phones too
My little brother just opened his iPhone SE 2nd gen that was broken and I looked inside and it was in the best condition an inside an iPhone I’ve seen in a while and he doesn’t have any experience with opening iPhones he just pride it open
This was insane!
like uploads like these when you actually get inspiration foran idea instead of burning out cranking continuiously
Who also here has a cheap phone and has a 6000 mAh battery
Mine has like 3300
Mine was 5000
Mine has 0.1 :)
5350 i got
Moto g54
Energizer did this a while back with an 18,000mAh battery. I'm pretty sure the product failed, but it was also super thick and absurdly heavy for a phone.
Keep the hard work 💪 your videos are the best
Finally i found this kind of video. I will try this on my older phones
Hey phone repair guru , can you run a accubattery test to see wheather the iPhone is determining that the attached battery is of 10000mah
This video helped me very much because if my phone battery dies I will definitely do this.
First of all, I love your Videos. This is a funny idea but it seems like you have missed something very important. The Battery from the Powerbank has a nominal voltage of 3.7V and a voltage of 4.2V when fully charged. The Iphones Battery however has a slightly higher Voltage of 3.8V and around 4.4V when fully charged. That means if you charge up the Battery with the Iphones BMS you will overcharge it and it could be a fire hazard. Even though both are Lithium Ion-Polymer Batteries they have different voltages per cell.I have encountered this voltage problem myself as I did the Same you did with a Galaxy s7.
what if we using phone battery with the same spec but higher capacity?
@@surapurna thats possible but sadly there are many sellers who rebrand normal or even used batteries as higher capacity. It is possible to make a fitting cell with a slightly higher capacity but you still have the physics of a battery that limits its capacity. Else we would have much bigger capacity batteries in our phones:)
@@cinematica9073 like a tablet battery for example. Or just stack double triple the same exact battery in series
@@surapurna Yes but you need to connect them in Parallel and not in series. If you connect them in series the voltages are getting added up
If you want to increase the capacity you have to connect the cells in parallel.
Nice, I changed my Bluetooth headphones battery to 1200mAh and it became immortal ✌
Now we want part 2 with 3D printed housing to make it actually a working iPhone ❤️❤️
Keep it up 👏🏻👏🏻
Back in the days of (easily) replaceable batteries, I bought a replacement battery for my Windows Mobile Pocket PC with more than double the mAh. I don’t know why I expected it to be of the same size. It was thick and came with a replacement back cover as well. Worked fine but phone became much thicker. At least the power lasted longer.
I'm just going to 3d print a case that can hold both my phone, and a power bank.
smart😂only if he thought of this and he wouldn't be wasting so much time on connecting the phone to the battery
But then you are charging the powerbank, which then charges the phone... but other than that, it works.
I remember when my iphone X 2 year old when it's time release. I do upgrade my battery into 6000mah and it working well
I strongly recommend getting longer wires than drilling the iPhone body 😁
Im actually doing the exact same thing with my iPhone SE :D
It’s a fun projet
I’m doing a custom 3D printed chassis for it :)
Hey PhoneRepairGuru, i was just wondering from where do you buy all the replacement stuff and screens?
He gets it from mobilesentrix, but their generally more business oriented, for person I would use injured gadgets, or ebay if you feel like searching for oem and stuff
my idea.....for gamming phone.....also you should keep that in mind, a 3D printed back cover to fit that battery (and to keep a little gap for cooling)
The better version of the energizer phone 😂
I’ve done this about a year ago. I put 3 iphone 7plus battery on the back and glue it down. Also another one inside. Still powers on until now.
Actually you need to activate the battery first after you disconnect it from the bms. You need a battery activator. Or you can charge it with your power supply. Just give 5volt about 10 sec and the battery should be good to go. The bms will go to "protect” mode after disconnecting the battery.
I just had this idea where the iPhone using (external) batteries instead of having internal batteries. It would've decreases the amount of heat when you're playing games and not to forget the weight too. Just wondering whether long cables/connector affect the power delivery to the logic board.
@@androidmaster3369 batteries dont explode when they touch dust
At that point why don’t you just get an Asus gaming phone if gaming is one of your top priorities?
Maybe using some 18650 cells? But you would need to have a different BMS for the cells. Remember the Energizer's attempt to make a longest living phone?
Loved this one 🤩
I wish I could do something similar with a cheap android phone too ( I run python codes on them in loop for days).
You’d still need to keep them connected
@@John-zp2jm But I can move around different cities, without worrying about charger, power bank…
I will be the happiest person to get a 20000 mAH power bank running android 12🫥
@@sudoAnalytics lmao it’s still a lithium battery at the end of the day, it would only last 1 day
dude if you solder the 2 battery cells it powers the phone at 8.4v instead of the 4.2v the BMS is rated for ! if the BMS didn't have a security you would have fry the all iphone... you probably did this experiment without really knowing the risks. Glad it didn't smoke haha
Fun experiment.
I'm just wondering if overcharging (well maybe not overcharging, but more a charge problem ;-) is an issue here, since the capacity of the new battery is much larger.
For anyone interested in trying this for their own, you're gonna need some higher power cells.
Most smartphones these days use a 3.85v lithium battery that charges at up to 4.4v, and the average lithium cells found in power banks or other electronics have a voltage of 3.7 charged at 4.2v.
Find a 10k mah 3.85v battery and it should work.
My cousin replaced his redmi note 8 battery that had turned into an inflatable pillow about a year ago and recently it puffed again. This time, we got a galaxy A50 battery and soldered the cell to the bms of note 8's battery. Worked like a charm and he says it lasts even longer than the original battery despite both being 4000 mah
What’s poppin ☺️
Pop corn, y..?
First Gold IPhone... Now IGoldBomb Pro Max plus :)
Battery life will show up as 1000% capacity 😂
Funny Thought, made me think about it. I concluded that it would be assessing the state of charge based on the battery voltage so it wouldn't do that 😅
Could 3d print a case to go around it and then stick a sheet of metal at the back of the shell that keeps it from getting impacted too badly
This is extremely dangerous as the iPhone charges its batteries to 4,35V whereas standard Power bank and regular liion batterys only charge to 4.2V.
By connecting the wrong bms you basically left the battery at the iPhones mercy. It will probably attempt to overcharge it and could destroy the cells, resulting in a blown Battery and a fire hazard.
If you attempt this, watch the cell chemistry and rated voltage before soldering a foreign bms to it.
5:42 min: OMG, dude your soldered wires from the cell to the BMS are fully exposed, and then you literally just lower the *insanely conductive metal backing of the screen onto those bare contacts*?! You know that you could‘ve directly shorted out that 42Wh Battery without any protection. Honestly, that‘s just incredible…
don't u have a 3d printer??????
I still can't figure out why apple has such small batteries
plays rtx on
Bro lithium battery output power is 3.6 v and you have connect 2 batteries which will increase volte to 6 v thats why this i phone don't starting
The quality is good for me I’m just happy that you keep posting 😊
First
Make the first user-replaceable iphone battery, bonus points for double batteries and hot swapping
You wont actually get to use the battery , mostly because all phones have a software hardwired capacity in them , meaning the phone knows what it should have (lets say 4000mAh) if you put a 10000 mAh it will just measure how much it consumes until gets to 4000 then will say you have 0% even though you are well above 60% , i say this from experience (not on a iphone but should be similar) a few years back when i tried to make a 28000 mAh android phone , i had to root it and declare in the files what capacity it had , i dont know if you can do this with the iphone but good luck !! I like your videos.
I Am Addicted To Your Videos!
btw iPhone batteries are LiHv battery, (AKA has higher Max charged voltage(4.35 compared to normal lipo battery) so that power bank battery might have severe issue like swelling)
I think building a 3d printed back will be better , that way it will be more customizable like you can even add a fan
ive done hundreds if not thousands of that trick..it will really work just use the original bms that came from the unit.
You are doing what I want to do with my iphone! because you may game on this phone whole day
I'm trying for 2020 vivo mobile phone in big battery and my project is successful 👌
So brilliant! Thank you for figuring this out - ohhhh the possibilities!! 😆
The whole video I was waiting for him to check the battery health and seeing if it would say 350%
You can drill a hole from the back of the housing and glue the battery on the back of the phone.
This is super crazy, waiting for part 2.
U should hire a cnc company to create a custom case that can properly house the battery along with the internals.
Hello bro I have replaced my iPhone battery.. a genuine apple battery. But I don’t know why it drains so fast. Have updated to latest iOS 15.6
So can you make a video to solve this matter?
Thanks 🙏🏻
Bro I remember back when you had 10k I like your videos :)
Don't worry man. This is very good quality.
The camera quality is perfect
The original battery had the bms board welded on. You have to unweld it for it to come off
It doesn't matter about your editer , you did well
The heat from the iron probably killed the BMS boards, you should use a spot welder instead to do this, Qianli make a good spot welder.
Bro im from trinidad and tobago and i actually soldered a 7 battery to a 6s bms board and used in the 6s up to this day....i think you should try remodelling the iphone frame with a bigger battery that would be spectacular...
WE WANT PART 2!!
Quit taking breaks WE need YOU!
I really want to attach the phone to power bank, keep doing we love your content)
I’m happy to see a vid from you. I’m excited to see this go further. As always, good work. ♥️
Your videos are amazing you inspire me
I actually did this with my iPhone 7. Drilled a hole in the back and 3d printed a case. I tried multiple different batteries, from 5000-10000. In the end, the bms board was too hard to get a solid connection with the solder to deliver proper voltage.
What do you mean with "deliver probably voltage"
@@surapurna sorry, I meant proper lol I’ll edit it
i also did this project before on my iPhone 6s and I double taped the battery In the back of my phone,moreover, I get through the wire inside the screw hole under the iphone and get soldered the wire on the bms
Yes everything is possible. Im sure will work fine