Why Darth Vader HATED Palpatine's Royal Guard - Star Wars Explained
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Vader hated them because they wouldn't obey him, they wouldn't obey him because they were loyal to the emperor, because they were loyal to the emperor they wouldn't obey Vader so Vader hated them because they wouldn't obey him because they were loyal to the emperor, their loyalty to the emperor is why they wouldn't obey Vader and he hated them for it etc. You truly have a gift for talking in circles without saying much.
This is so accurate
No you're wrong, they hated vader because vader hated them and they are loyal to the emperor before they are loyal to vader and that makes vader loyal to them and the emperor
So what you're getting at is the guards are only loyal to Sidious and Vader is butt hurt but cant do anything about it? Sorry, its just not very clear, i wish hed explain it one more time.
Lol
@@yamahakid450f Yep
He does this on all of his videos.
Last time I was this early Plagueis was getting ready for bed
Same
I miss these haha
With a glass of merlot? 😂
Noice!
And never woke up 😔
Damn.. And killing a guard would mean that he directly challanged Palpatine with death being the only outcome for either one of them. I can understand that Vader took his time all up until empire when he openly stated his plans for dominion to another person for the first time in the act of trying to recruit Luke.
He could have just left in a ship into the Unknown regions
Yeah one thing thats not mentioned in the movies but George Lucas said was true is that Vader had tried to kill Palpatine many times but failed but the emperor was so into killing Luke he had finally left himself open.
Unless we go into a number of times in the EU. Where it happened a few times. Of course it was half of Palpatines deliberate doing as well
@@0HOLSTERand Vader went unpunished each time?
@@angelic_disappointment7889 he was most likely electrocuted every time OR palpatine actually wanted this to happen so he could channel his hatred into power
I always wondered why the imperial guard was called "royal" guard. Royal guard = king, Imperial guard = emperor
@Narkomancers false royalty, not by blood but by force, but technically, yes
@@DaveXYZ369 not necessarily, as a king can become an emperor, and the fact that Palpatine was from own of the ‘noble’ houses of Naboo made Palpatine technically a member of the nobility, even before he became ‘the Senate’ or Emperor.
Both words (king and emperor) are used interchangeably sometimes. They both mean, essentially, almost the same thing.
@narkomancers5262 Yes.
@@DaveXYZ369 Incorrect. An emperor is no less royalty than a king, there's nothing inherently false about the title of emperor that is true for the title king, they're essentially the same thing. Maybe you meant Emperor Palpatine, specifically, was false royalty, but that's also not true. An emperor is royalty, even if he walking into the throne room of the previous ruler and cut his head off in front of all of the generals of that time, as long as he then started an empire and is the ruler of said empire, he's a royal. The history of the world is filled with bloodlines taking, trading, or losing power amongst themselves and those that would usurp them, how many generations ago does a bloodline need to have sat on the throne before it is no longer false? All great houses gained their power by taking it from others.
The different Guards that Palpatine created are some of my favorite Organizations in Star Wars.
The power imbalance between the Emperor and Vader was immense... This really does go to show that the Emperor truly embraced The Rule of One and did everything within his power to keep Vader down...
Guess it was a reason why he died lol he was weaker
@@kristopherleslie8343 not weaker just overconfident like Darth maul was
To be fair though, was there anything or anyone Vader didn't hate until Luke?
True, but I think he REALLY hated these guys lol
Nope, Padme is the only one he doesnt hate, he loves her, but ironically she's one of his constant sources of pain and anger.....
Although, I think having your old 'Master' slice of your remaining limbs just to leave you alive to helplessly (I don't understand why he didnt use the force, cant he use it without hands, or just crawl his bitch ass up with that metal claw for a hand... if he can do it after being burned alive, he can do it prior to the 'Anakin barbecue') slide into a lava river to catch fire causing all your skin and dick to be burned off, like its the forgotten hotdog at the very back of the grill that was never flipped... That kind of tops the anger and pain Padme instills in Vader, atleast in my book... People wonder why he's so angry, he's short a dick... He can't even rub one out using the force through his suit, thats brutal. Its all her fault too, she just had to be selfish and go die right after he sacrificed every thing in his life, including his friends, sanity, limbs, and dick (and a few younglings) all for her and the baby, but noooooo, thats not enough for Padme Amadola, no sir.... She's so inconsiderate. Bitches, am I right??
I choke my girl almost daily, she loves it, and she doesnt go around all depressed and die afterwards neither...
@@yamahakid450f Exactly! I hear you there, bro... F***ing broads. What can you do?
501st
@@vincekelly5233 Facts
I really want Kir Kanos to be canon. Emperor's Royal Guard who was particularly dangerous.
last time i was this early anakin had all of his limbs
I wonder if it would have been possible for Vader to use that hatred of the Royal Guard to grow his connection with the Dark-Side? Even when in his tank, to see them there could have been a chance to use it as a focal point while meditating, effectively getting him closer to his goal, without providing them with anything to report to Palpatine! Just a thought! :)
Definitely. Especially considering that most Guardsmen were not Force-sensitive (the Shadow Guard were a major exception, but wore black uniforms and their Force potential and training would have been obvious to Vader or other Force-wielders).
I wish Vader had been brave enough to figure out a way to upgrade his suit and cybernetics that would have made him more resistant to force lightning without Palpatine’s help and without the risk of dying. He sorely needed the upgrade. Without it he was doomed to be under Palpatine’s thumb forever. Vader was a shadow of his former self. Yet he was still very powerful. He was powerful enough to survive everything Palpatine threw at him and survive yet not powerful enough to overthrow and replace his master. What a frustrating place to be. A more powerful apprentice would have bold enough to keep on killing the guards and dared Palpatine to do something about it.
There was an upload about why he wouldn't. But I agree.
Vader didn't upgrade his cybernetics nor his suit because he was afraid that it would rob him of the pain and suffering he needed to maintain his connection to the dark side. His cybernetics were outdated and his suit was uncomfortable to wear which frustrated him to no end, but provided an endless wellspring of pain for him to draw on and fuel his connection to the dark side of the Force, as a Sith Lord, he couldn't afford to lose that.
Vader could kill the guards, he did often. A lot of times Palpatine would have Vader fight the strongest royal guard just as an example for the others. But they would be able to put up a fight, giving Palpatine time to stop his apprentice. They pretty much were a chaperone between Vader and the emperor in case Vader ever decided to "try something,” and of course they could easily protect Palpatine against anyone else.
@@trekstarsam2494 Except Rey and K Ren 😂
@@Longchain69 Well they where not nearly as well trained
Darth Vader: "I hate you"!
Royal Guard: "I know"!
Darth Vader: "I hate what you have in your boot from walking on Tatooine".
Royal Guard takes off his boot and says: "Sand I hate sand it is ruff, curses, and gets everywhere".
The God-Emperor of Mankind's Adeptus Custodes make these Royal Guards look like children trying to play security guard.
I love the Red Royal Guards! Too bad we never get to see them kick butt in live action
That's what Tt Game's did with their Lego Star Wars games such as The Complete Saga, The Force Awakens and The Skywalker Saga.
You can fight them in The Force Unleashed
@@geg_otmopo3 I never played The Force Unleashed Maybe, I don't really quite remember?
@@geg_otmopo3 yes you can and in Lego Star Wars Skywalker Saga they put up a good fight
That Is true but they were higher rank of senator guards.
i loved it when Yoda tossed them aside with the force haha
Made them look like just some random jabronis.
@@fmthebaron let's be real they are some random jabronis.
Sadly those weren't the true Royal Guards that Palpatine had later, and weren't as skilled
Makes me wonder why they weren’t there during the Luke Vs the Emperor fight. Surely the biggest test of Vaders loyalty to choose a new apprentice and his family of which was the reason he turned in the first place over that of his Sith master.
This is exactly what I'm wondering. I can't remember if the emperor dismissed them or they just weren't there. I suppose had they been, the emperor would never have taken his trip down that shaft and the franchise would have gone differently.
The emperor dismissed them after he removed Luke’s handcuffs with the force…
So let me get this straight, The Red Guards We're made to look like they were protecting Lord Vader, but really They were spying for the Emperor And Vader couldn't sway them because they were solely loyal to the Emperor and Vader didn't like them. Because they weren't loyal to Lord Vader, they Only loyal to the Emperor And they were always around, So Vader could never get any time for himself, because he was always surrounded by the guards who weren't really protecting him because they weren't loyal to him, because they were only loyal to the Emperor.
Does that about sum it up!? 🤦
I've got a micromachine Royal Guard Tie Interceptor. It looks cool . The blurb on the box says they were used as escorts for the emperor and his shuttles etc.
Interesting to know what if any their abilities were with regard to the force.
Honestly everytime I see the royal gaurds. I wondered if palpatine created them as an inspiration from Darth Revan or possibly some kind of experimental project design phase. Some what similar to creating Snole from Luke's severed hand.
as an introvert having elite royal guards follow me around and watch over my every move would drive me insane.
I suppose after the Emperor's death that these guards had trouble finding jobs ...after the whole " My former employer was thrown in a reactor core on our watch" thing ;)
A large majority did kill themselves
It always seemed wild to me that someone would be so blindly obedient and serving only one person. And then I started learning about North Korea.
Would a master be more annoyed at their apprentice attempting to overthrow them or not trying ever?
@@apollo53122 Well Palpatine is the type of person that thinks very little of everyone else that is not him. Palpatine has a severe god complex that makes even the other sith lords look humble
That's actually a pretty good question...🤔
Not trying ever.
The original Rule of Two said it straight out: “Two there must be, no more, no less. A Master to embody the power, and an Apprentice to crave it.”
An apprentice who makes no attempt *ever* - who isn’t just being cagey and patient while they accrue more power - is a failure. An apprentice who tries to overthrow the master and fails, at least understood the job description.
Yeah, but by having a goon squad to protect you from the guy who's going to eventually over throw you on top of putting him in a rather painful non electrical insulated suit of armor when your main attack besides the force is lighting, is kind of bitch made
It's like Palpatine wanted a really mean pet that could eventually take over his throne in the event he died of old age and the whole clone thing didn't work out.
Plain and simple, dude was trying to cheat the rule of two and death and his predetermined fate.
How did Luke drag Vader past these highly dangerous guards in ROTJ? You would think they would cut him down or we'd get a big battle once they realize the Emperor was dead.
Why would you risk your life if the guy that pays your salary is alrdy dead? xD
Because he was dragging Vader 😂 they probably thought "f*ck that!"
That' actually something I want to know, Luke had to cut throw them to escape to the hangar with Vader.
My guy can't even poop without a red donny staring at him
Yea but if Vader killed the guards, straight up, without hiding it, I can't help but feel that that would be so odd for him that Palpatine would actually be more surprised than angry. Vader's complete obidience was actually one of the things Palpatine disliked about him. To him Vader had no vision or personality , he was mearly a tool. So if Vader showed character for once , Palpatine would probably like "Oh i did not think it was bothering you my friend, *brief sith lesson*, have it your way Vader", something like that. It would not be the first time lol. I mean for a mear tool, Palpatine was sure going way out of his hand to cator to Vader when he needed it, because he needs him. Who is more important two guards or Vader?
I disagree. If Vader just straight up killed them, Palpatine would take that as a hostile response to the very threat he is making. It's a challenge at that point. Palpatine has no tolerance for betrayal or challenge, of any sort.
If Vader killed the guards then Sidious would see it as a rival Dark Lord challenging him and would act on it Sidious wasn’t as weak as he portrayed in fact he was one of the most powerful Sith Lords of all time and would gladly fight Vader to the death for the Imperial throne
I wonder if Vader hated Palpatine’s Guards before hand when he was Anakin. I would say that the Jedi were watching his every move. Then the guards were at the time
Awesome video, love learning about the royal guards. I might be confusing all the lore channels, didnt you already upload this video like 3 or 4 years ago? I could be mistaken
I love your videos, I got one question that I was not able to find on your channel : why Palpatine get disfigured when fighting against Mace ? Cheers from Ireland :)
It was a combination of ‘dropping the mask’ and letting the Dark Side degradation show, and additional damage caused by the reflected Force lightning.
How do you manage to repeat the same point 5 different times and turn a minute long video into an 8 minute video
It's a skill the jedi won't teach you
Funny how Palpatine didn't need these chumps for his safety at all and were there just to complete tasks and prop up Palpatine's image of a frail old man
He got time alone. He trained Starkiller in secret. There was a nod it Gaylen in the Obi-Wan series to suggest he's canon
Darth Vader couldn't even take a dump in peace because of these royal guards always being around him.
I would hate them too if I couldn't even take a dump without being watched 24/7.
I think someone made a comment similar to this once. But, I think the Red Guards would just love to hook up a sound system and play "Every Breath You Take" by the Police just to push Vader's buttons (no pun intended).
Vader should have made them trip when walking to embarrass them at every turn, then they'd be reluctant into guarding Vader.
This is sort of true, when there was an attempt on Palpatine's life, they obeyed Vader in finding those that tried to kill him.
I call B/S on this take. The royal guard was not with Vader on Cloud City. “Luke, we can rule the galaxy as father and son”. No royal guards there to report back…nor were they with him on the moon of Endor when he questioned Luke about his light saber either.
In normal situations they are always watching.
Palpatine used the guards to protect himself against Vader for the same reason he gave him a subpar suit: to make it more difficult for his apprentice to defeat him. The Rule of two says it best: "...one to embody the power, the other to crave it." And if the master must teach, it is not his responsability to give his power away. It is the apprentice's job to seize it when the time comes. Vader would know that.
How did you get all that info just from watching the movie?
Incredible
I love seeing the most powerful sith at the time walk with a cane, but why?
This was to present the image of an old man who survived the jedi treason, just pr for the empire, he really didn't need it lol.
I think he uses it to make him self look frail or weak when he isn't as in episode 6 we see him walk fine without it
@@qjo5158 nope. That’s a part of it, but even with the force, the dude was 84, and has a normal life expectancy. He wasn’t a weird race who lives 400+ years
@@ericb8241 he was 88 during the time of his death
@@ericb8241 yep actually the sith and jedi can easily use the force to compensate for age, look at ep6 when he clearly doesn't need it when preparing to lightning luke, yoda can twirl around using the most acrobatic form of lightsabre style, the emperor did not want the public to know he was a sith as in the publics eye they were the same as the jedi, he built the empire on public belief the jedi tried to kill him and he narrowly survived, he was already the most popular politician in the senate, as chancellor he became a hero for foiling the attempted rebellion and needed to keep that image, that's why he had vader be the empires monster, so he could remain a hero in most people's eyes, hence the loyalty of so many imperials even after his death.
They're are times when the red guards listen to Vader like on the Second Death Star or when someone attempted to assassinate Palpatine on Coruscant.
Great video. Thanks. Maybe he did, and I just either forgot, in a drunken stupor, or missed it, but I would have taken steps to ensure what is called "mutual assured destruction". Yeah. You've put me over a barrel. But if you push it over, you're coming with me. It was the best Vader could hope for.
You did this vid 4 years ago lol, this one do be better tho
Anything: *exists*
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I can’t front the all red costumes are amazing!
They ate the last donut and refused to buy more.
And why have we never seen them in action ever and getting wall bounce by Yoda doesn’t count either
RICK LONG CANBERRA NERDS INC ! LOVED THE ROYAL GUARD ! 😀
The amount of training, and patrioticism embedded in the royal guard is crazy. They're skill level is like that of a jedi knight though without the force they're obviously still not a match to a Jedi. They also are almost brainwashed into going to ant means to protect Palpatine and to lose value for their own lives. Surprisingly, even Palpatine respects his guards for what they've gone through Judy to serve him. Literally around 40 of the best Impetial will try out for the Guard in each group and only 2 will actually move on while the rest die throughout the training period.
This video doesn't feel accurate. Vader is seen without the Royal Guard, constantly. They are rarely seen in the movies, he's gone to planets by himself etc. Not only that but in a previous video you stated that Vader didn't kill Palpatine because he "needed him".
Vader was not second in command in terms of line to emperor that would actually be grand moff Tarkin Vader would much rather serve sidious and ultimately himself
@@postsniper-7532 vader was the Supreme commander of the military 2nd only to Palpatine. Tarkin had favor with the emperor but was not 2nd in line. Palpatine was a sith 1st and foremost. He wouldn't overlook vader in favor of a soldier. Since he lost faith in vader, he ensured that the empire lived on after him but really expected to rule for eternity.
@@qb6570 you forget palpatines true gift and endgame politics Vader was in no way involved in politics lol in the event of palpatines death he in no way shape or form would have been in charge of the galaxy he quite literally didn’t even have a name anymore😂 just a sith title no one was looking to the cybernetic enforcer for direction
Its ironic that vader was a prisoner yet the deadliest weapon of the empire up until the death star. Vader is such a tragedy.
This is just a case of "fifthers fifthin' fifthers".
Palpy and the red boys, Vader and the 501st gang, then there are The Rebels.... it's almost like school clubs and they all hate each other.😂😂😂
Grandmaster Yoda literally took out 2 Royal Guards in a nanosecond
do they royal guard have an darkside powers are they linked to the force or rather highly skilled warriors used as a defense against such powers? sort of like a race of beings skilled as jedi or sith but immune to the force?
Why did the Emperor need the royal guard? I mean he survived the Second Death Star. He survived that he could survive most anything.
Anikan/vader such a tragic character
This guy is basically Mike Zeroh junior
Vader should have rejected the guards by killing the everytime that they entered his castle...everytime. even palps knows a sith is a sith.
Love these guys and everything about them. I have 15 different versions of them in action figure and love the comic series about them.
It didn’t take much for yoda to knock them out so I think prime Vader could easily take them
That was early in the unit’s existence, and they were always meant to fight in groups anyway. An entire platoon of soldiers could certainly take one out, although there would be some casualties.
I really hope they make a Vader or Star Wars: Rebel Spies show on Disney+ and dive into depth about the Empire. That would be badass.
I don't undemand why the palatine needs royal guards for his protection
A great irony that the man who despised being ordered around by others could not tolerate those who wouldn't be ordered around by him. For the very same reasons. Vader was only second to Palpatine, meaning that no Moff, Admiral, General or whoever held power over him. The Royal Guards were themselves bound directly to Palpatine and no one held power over them except their master, similar to the Adeptus Custodes in Warhammer 40K, which directly server the God Emperor of Mankind and can't be commanded by any Chapter Master, Primarch, Inquisitor or Highlord.
A difference is that Vader could order them around to a degree, like other Stormtroopers, but they were much more loyal to the Emperor than the average Stormtrooper and much more likely to disobey an order if they believed Vader was trying to get rid of them or otherwise act disloyally.
Vader hated everyone from my understanding except Tarkin he respected him, the question is why did he remain loyal when he never got taught to revive the dead or someone close to death? I guess maybe because he killed everything he loved and no interest anymore
If Vader was considered the right hand of the emperor I would compare the royal guard as the eyes and ears of sidious.
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Basically: Darth Vader was so full of hate that for every 3 things he did, he absolutely hated one of them.
Sidious MKULTRA'd and PROJECT MONARCHED those guards. He replaced their superegos with his own ego.
He hated them because he thought their red costumes were silly. He referred to them as the tampon twins behind their backs
"Luke, come with me. I will complete your training, and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son." ("And then we can fight for power as Sith for as long as we live. It's gonna make Thanksgiving dinner a living heII, but whatever.")
See though, this theory doesn't make any sense. We have PLENTY of canon examples of Vader being alone. We almost never see him in the same room as the red guards.
Wonder if any guards were inquisitors?
I know about the Sun guard but that's only Legends rite ?
a random thought maybe, but how does Vader actually poop? taking off the suit would be not only a huge hassle but dangerous aswell, or shower for that matter?
anyone know what episode that is at 3:50
the hologram flips from sidious to palps then back
I wish you had some Palpatine/Sidious merch…
Didn't Vader immediately punk 2 of them upon returning after corrupting his Kyber Crystal?
The Crimson Guard.
Afraid of getting order 66'd.
It sucks that the movies never showed the guards in action.
Plus, many had a degree of force sensitivity, and were off limits to Vader’s bloodlust. That boundary would have been a rub.
There is no peace for the wicked.
If they were keeping tabs on him how was he able to train star killer in secret
Why was Palpatine a left alone with Luke and Vader on the Death Star in Return of the Jedi?
How can you say they are “always”with him ? You hardly see them at all. Where do you come up with this info ?
Sooo, what happened to the Royal Reds after the Battle of Endor?
For a very brief moment though, Vader die become the emperor.
Clearly Palps was afraid of Vader. Giving him that trash suit to hold him back and constantly have imperial guards watching him.
Vader should’ve just killed the guards at any opportunity away from Palpatine. “I killed more of your guards. What’re you going to do about it?”
most healthy relationship between bad guys in Star Wars
We’re the guards regular humans like the stormtroopers or force users in a certain point of view
Corrupted jedi temple guards...... that's not true, I just pulled that out of thin air. More likely they were either highly trained top of the top storm troopers or possibly genetically enhanced soldiers given Palpatines history with cloning and genetic research.
After playing Jedi Destiny in Lego Star Wars II, I pretty much hate them as well.
Be careful not to choke on your asperations.
This is why the Empire fell, he refused to except the fact. That as he grew older, he was going to become a liability to the Empire. If you look at most Dark Side users who were human. Needed to be taken out at roughly 57 for things to continue forward. In a healthy way so that younger stronger Sith would continue forward. Palpatine got too power hungry and it killed the Sith and Empire.
That's just how the sith-tem works.
I mean look at the Royal Guards Drip
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Where was they when vader through Palpatine over the ledge 🤣🤣
Why didn't Vader simply allow Luke to kill the Emperor in ROTJ?
Because deep down Vader loves his son, despite his confliction. He knew Luke wouldn’t have stood a chance against Palpatine.
Because he didnt want luke to follow the same path he went down. Otherwise he wouldnt have done anything
All the more reason to let him die. Then Vader wouldn't have been electrocuted and subsequently died from it.
My guess is it's because they stole his spinning trick