I'm not advocating against humans or guardians.. but tbh, theres a decently possible chance she might not've even taken to the Dark if we hadn't stopped her from getting siva. Or maybe she still would've 🤷🏻♂️ it's hard to say, but she'd probably still rise against us at some point anyway. Just a call to attention.. Guardians make their own fate.. ..but also sway the paths of countless others. Focus needs to be less on victory and dominance and more about attrition and forcing peace treaties until some kind of inter-species symbiosis is achieved.
@@shadowviper4822 well being the kell of light doesn’t Have to make him a light bearer Some people would consider calus to be the cabal of darkness He has power that he gained when he went to the void
@@Kino-K well he may still have his personality and his knowledge Cuz Ana bray acts a lot like she was described before she was a Guardian and she has learned 80% of her past
@@Dream146 apparently all our enemies converged to destroy us in that timeline, including the guardians that turned to the darkness because of Eramis. Without Eramis, dark guardians don’t exist, therefore this future can’t happen.
@@MesoMania Eramis was just one of the many threats that caused the dark timelines, but the main problem there was the Black Heart and the dark guardians that it spawned. And apparently Eris Morn.
@@jackyamero5129 it is true that I did not finish the video, but I was genuinely happy to see this lore video pop up, since I already read the lore book and was just happy to see the vid. Sorry if it bothered you😅
nhan cao a noble goal, I forgive him about cayde, he had no intentions of the actions taken, only to set in motion necessary events, while I don’t like what happened to cayde, the sake of our timeline rests on every precise action taking place. Hopefully but sadly caydes death catalyzing the future events is what is needed to save it.
I think that 'Variks the Loyal' is a subtle and vague name. Loyal to whom ? The Queen ? Eliksni ? A Fallen House ? It's never clearly said. I would guess that he's loyal to the Eliksni above all else, seeing his actions
I really hope what the Darkness told Kridis was true, and Eramis will come back to life, stronger than she was. She was killed off too quickly in my opinion.
From what Kridis says in that one mission it really sounds like Eramis is in the Ascendant Plane, a lot of the terminology she uses is really reminiscent of how others talk of that realm.
6:18 Eramis has no House. She kneels before no banner, owes allegiance to no Kell. She is a shipstealer, and very good at what she does. I have been tracking her since she broke out, yes? Now Eramis works for Darkness, but not for long.
At 16:33, In case y'all are wondering who is Athrys. For Hunters, her name might look familiar because she has an extoic named after her, ATHYRS’S EMBRACE. She really isn't mentioned in any lore books besides "The Once-Shipstealer" but Variks does talk about her relationship with Earmis in the Sabotage lore tabs. Basically, Athrys was Eramis' mate back when the Traveller was still with the Elkisni. They had many hatchlings and were quite happy together according to Variks. We don't know her fate but Eramis mentioned that Athrys was banging on the walls of her own or Eramis sleeping pod begging for the Traveller to come back. For me, I believe Athrys and their hatchlings are dead. It would provide a great motive for why Earmis hates the Traveller along with her other motives. It would explain her hatred towards the guardians and Traveller is much more impactful because in a way, the Traveller took everything from her. It's also a bit of irony because the Traveller destroyed her past life. We destroyed her present one by killing her House and all the dreams a better life for the fallen with it. Sources: www.ishtar-collective.net/items/rendezvous-with-variks-35?highlight=Athrys www.ishtar-collective.net/items/power-hungry?highlight=Athrys {SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT VIDEO} www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/vi-the-herald?highlight=Athrys
what saint 14 and ana bray say on the radio at beyond is very interesting they tell you how powerful eramis was she was respected and feared by them both.
@@ritsukaseriyko1491 But we have to keep in mind that these are also Guardian legends saying this. Saint 14 and Ana are by no means normal guardians, they’re more then likely the next options in case the player character ever failed.
I think they might actually have further plans for Eremis. Her _literally_ being in stasis and us not smashing her like we've been proved more than capable of is definitely a hint to that. They've built her up for a while as such am interesting and formidable foe, just for is to defeat her so quickly. Here's to hoping they have a few tricks still left up their sleeves for this interesting piece on the multidimensional chess board
Eramis is one of my favorite main villains in the series so far and even though there wasn't much for her cutscene wise her and her generals (cant remember the exact term) during those interactions was pretty neat even her voice lines made her character one of my favorites especially with the strike and her trying to bring a vex army was actually pretty smart in my opinion if she was able to figure out a way to control them and we weren't able to stop the mind and the hydra or her she definitely would have been the next ghaul in able to take the city and possibly the entire system even faster than the red legion did
@@TempestFox i kinda like eramis more than variks or mithrax after hearing the traveller straight up just abandoned the eliksni i feel her anger and rage is kinda justified and in destiny 2 the vanguard would be the secret villain
@@eesamohammed2104 The only reason the Traveler had stayed within the confines of the Last City, was because Rasputin shot it down before it could leave us.
@@MadMatt32 i see what you did there. "Yes... I will name this world....Europa. it will be a cold...dark... and very gentle place. And one day, it will make someone a goodly home."
I haven't played D2 yet, but Eramis sounds like an amazing character, who really shows how the Fallen were such a threat to city so long ago. I wish she'd been teased during house of wolves, even with a throwaway line. I hope she becomes the equivalent of a guardian for the darkness.
can you do a breakdown series explaining everything about the races including anatomy, reproduction, nutrient intake, culture etc? id love to know more stuff like that about the fallen and cabal and psions and other races. cheers!
Your videos are so amazing and helpful!! I’m a total lore nerd when it comes to destiny but have a very hard time reading the lore cards on my own due to mild adhd that makes it difficult to keep everything straight in my head. Your videos make things so much easier to understand!! You do an amazing thing for this community and provide entertainment to so many people!! Appreciate everything you do immensely.
When I get confused as to what the fuck is happening in the game BYF is my go to channel this guy literally makes half the game.. Bungie should hire him as our in game lore speaker
Generally I put these videos on in the background for the commentary, but when I do actually watch I completely appreciate that the gameplay is like watching myself or any other average player play! Bfy you need to do some videos over PvP gameplay, just once!! Keep up the good work man.
I honestly wish that the campaign ended with stopping Eremis' empire from attacking the last city in something like another battle of eight fronts. Then she could be maintained as the leader of the fallen dark empire and the ability of these dark fallen to continue using the darkness would make more sense. As a villain Eremis brings something destiny hasn't ha in villains thus far, an actual fascist. Like, she is an incredibly close parallel for the nazis, even with her own "stabbed in the back" conspiracy centered on the traveller and a race she wants to genocide (us). As an enemy she could have been our most compelling and dangerous for so far.
Video series idea; Deep dive into individual enemy types / subtypes (minitor, captain, ogar, ext) their background lore and how they interact with others, pepper in some stories about key individual. Just like this video it will help us really understand the motivations of our many foes.
I’ve always wondered...did the traveler bestow it’s “light” on the Eliksni the same way it does with humans on earth currently? Basically we’re there Eliksni guardians then? Or did they benefit in a more “golden age” manner without the space magic? I’ve always thought an Eliksni guardian would make for a dope subclass.
As far as i know, Humanity/Awoken/Exo are the only ones who have gotten the light, because we are the only ones whom the Traveler stayed for, rather than like the Eliksni where the Traveler fled.
The Fallen are my favourite race. To fight, To kill and to learn about. Not all Eliksni are enemies. But they are such a beautiful race in a way. Everything they've ever known was destroyed. Their home, their culture, their very way of life, gone. and yet here they are still, fighting for what little they have. In that aspect, Eliksni and Humanity have a lot more in common than people first thought.
It's also important to note - when talking about Eramis in contrast to other Fallen leaders - that she is not only doing away with the idea of taking back the Great Machine for the Eliksni, but she is also giving them a new home. This is a fundamental paradigm shift in terms of what we've see previously. There hasn't been an Eliksni to this point who has stood in opposition to us who has offered something "new". The Devils, the Wolves, they wanted to destroy us and take the Great Machine, but Eramis proposes to - yes - destroy us, and then build a new Riis, a new home so that the Eliksni no longer exist as a species of nomads and pirates.
Can we get a lore video talking about Siegfried? I read about him in the Titan Wild Hunt armor. He is a Titan of the Praxic order and one of Ikora's Hidden. Super interesting. Also, the regular flavor text of the Wild Hunt armor hints at some smart creature in Old Chicago that killed several Fireteams trying to hunt it. Reminds me of a xenomorph.
I want to point out that Quitters Well in the Tangled Shore is really close to a fallen city/community. The entrance to the Hallowed lair strike seems to be surrounded by eliksni homes.
Here i am again, lore daddy about to tell me a bedtime story, i had 2 strokes in 2017 at the age of 34 and still recovering and had the hardest time falling asleep as my head starts racing straight away, your vids stop me from listening to my head🤞 you’re really having a positive influence on my mental health brother, keep it up as i do require more sleep because of the strokes, fir everybody that read this, live healthy, be safe and blessed🙌 eramis is still a pleb imo😂
I actually Eramis she is an very interesting character she does care for her people but going about it an the most extreme way. How she said once in an conversation to us as guardians oh how we could of been allies I will rooting for this but sadly she couldn’t be saved.
A Dreg of House Salvation shivered in the desolate cold of the Cadmus Ridge. How she longed to once again be on the tropical Venus, though that land had long been cleared of her former house. Two other dregs sat near her as she kept lookout, they whispered and laughed as a vandal and two shanks scrounged an old human chest. The other two were speaking of some story about the old Kell, something about how Eramiskel would return as a god and cast the system in Darkness. She never understood their fixation with the Kell and her darkness, she came to Europa for safety, not another war. Of course she did not voice these qualms as she would likely receive harsh reprimanding. She had witnessed the powers the higher levels of the house wielded, and she wanted no part of it. It was so...unnatural. And to see the Machineborn use the same only confirmed that they were not meant for Eliksni hands, or at the very least did not care whose hands wielded them. As she thought this, a figure rose from over a nearby ridge, she only had a split second to notice it was a Machineborn before she felt a searing pain and heard ringing. She fell over, writhing in pain, unable to see or hear. She rose her head and could just barely see the outlines of shanks falling apart and the vandal running for his life only for his head to explode with Ether. A shadow fell over he, a rifle aimed at her head. The Machineborn's faceless helmet faced her and somehow she recognized it. She soon realized she had seen it when she had served the House of Kings and witnessed the fall of Skolas. And for some reason, she did not feel fear. She waited, staring into the depths of the helmet for the end... But it did not come. The Machineborn's tiny servitor appeared and spoke to it, nodding towards her. It said nothing until it heard its- his- voice from behind the helm. Speaking in Eliksni. "You do not fear death. You do no fear me. Either you are brave or foolhardy. Either way, if you seek freedom from this forsaken world." He tosses a small machine pad to her feet as well as a small tank of Ether he looted from the vandal. "Follow this. I will wait." And like that, in a flash of light, he was gone. And she was left there. She quickly took the Ether and the pad, which projected a holographic map of Riis-Reborn's northwestern sector. She did not know why, but she felt compelled to follow it. From on high, the guardian watched the Dreg crawl away, with a fierce will to live. Despite himself, he smiled.
A not totally completely unrelated question but something I was thinkin about, is Stasis or in the least our Stasis subclass "corrupted" darkness since it was "given" to us instead of instead of "taken" from some source, like how Oryx took "taking" from Akka? The Darkness even mentions how it's a "gift" it wants us to have but that should be an aspect of the Light's nature.
Hey, i just listend to your video about savathuns Song. 3 Days ago i was walking around in the city. I was passing by the cleaner Robot in the corner when you go from the right landing platform through the Room with the Tree. (He is swiping abit behind that the little Dead End on the right side) And he was actually humming that song while i was passing by. I had no idea what that song was what so ever until i watched your video. I am not to deep into lore, but does that mean Savathuns song also infects machines?
I just with we had some buildup to Eramis before the dlc dropped. Like maybe signs of the fallen going to Europa or whispers of the fallen wielding darkness. It just felt like she was just put there cause they needed a villain but yet again the story is in the lore and not the missions.
Maybe I’m weird but I definitely found Eramis to be the most sympathetic villain. If this was some kind of multiple ending single player game I’d have sided with her.
Beyond Light's only major story foible is that it killed off all remaining named Fallen antagonists. It wouldn't have been too terribly hard to 'beat' Erasmis without killing or capturing her, sort of putting the fight on hold. We'd still have a big climax where we master Stasis, but from that point onward we'd have not only an Elinski antagonist on the board, but a rival.
What I got from this is how ridiculously powerful the Guardian is. Just because of their marksmanship, mastery of all weapons, and a 'light level' that seems to surpass every other NPC guardian. Eramis was dead within 10 minutes tops to an on the level to overleveled Guardian. While in the lore she managed to final death dozens.
Now I wonder if perhaps we could have reasoned with Eramis. She was not irrational, just lost in the search for a future for her people. (Thx for the video Byf, it help me keep up with the lore now that i don't have that much time to read in peace.
You left out a little bit about Eramis, her wife Athrys, and their children back on Riis. She was friends with Variks, and studied the Traveler before the Whirlwind. How much she lost, and the Traveler's apparent betrayal feeling so personal, play a big part in her motivations.
Now hol' up, does that lore card confirm that Praksis invents Servitors...? Or was his remark metaphorical, in that his new "spheres" will be the new foundations of their new culture?
It was metaphorical, yes. Servitors came into being some time after the whirlwind, but before they entered the Sol system, as the Eliksni needed some way to create new supplies of Ether.
I was hoping she'd pop up in the raid somehow like oryx was killed in the campaign and we fought him in his throne world in the raid, eramis got frozen but was transferred into an exo or something. Also sucks that there arent any fallen in the raid that use stasis at all
The prison break gives Bungie an infinite amount of potential enemies the Awoken captured a lot of races .. what about that Vex mind Drifter talks about that all the other subtypes bowed down too ..
Eramis deserved better than story mission boss. Hope they revive her as a half Fallen half stasis ice. Comes back as a raid boss using our own stasis abilities as well as some new ones. Then as a final stand wipe mechanic, there would only be like 1% chance of survival without something like a shield from Vault of Glass. But that shield would not be given in the raid but instead have to be found. Like a fork in the road where one path is clearly the right way to go for the raid but a lore book mentions the other path having that shield. Just thinking of how stressful this could be for day one raiders when they reach Eramis and failing over and over again makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside~~
Really want to hear how Mithrax the kell of light doing now after seeing how far Eramis got with the darkness. Feel like the fallen need a win after taking so many L' s. Plus that dark future lore book just tells me that the traveler is not to be trusted fully. The traveler is like that partner in a relationship who is afraid of commitment.
Eramis after Mithrax stopped the SIVA heist with guardians: *"My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined."*
The opposite is for me, *“my happiness is immeasurable and my day is made.”*
Mithrax best Kell
@@TheCraftyMithrax so true
@@TheCraftyMithrax variks sends his regards, also hope to see you later in the next months
I'm not advocating against humans or guardians.. but tbh, theres a decently possible chance she might not've even taken to the Dark if we hadn't stopped her from getting siva.
Or maybe she still would've 🤷🏻♂️ it's hard to say, but she'd probably still rise against us at some point anyway.
Just a call to attention.. Guardians make their own fate..
..but also sway the paths of countless others.
Focus needs to be less on victory and dominance and more about attrition and forcing peace treaties until some kind of inter-species symbiosis is achieved.
I'm just waiting for Mithrax to become the first eliksni guardian.
It is possible he already is one
www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/9gljtf/spoilers_obviously_bungie_sneakily_confirms_an/
Yea, doesn't Variks refer to him as Light Kell? Durring the shield disable ship evac activity, more specifically.
I don't really want that.. Cuz then he'd have to die. And the Mithrax that comes back wouldn't be the Mithrax we have now
@@shadowviper4822 well being the kell of light doesn’t Have to make him a light bearer
Some people would consider calus to be the cabal of darkness
He has power that he gained when he went to the void
@@Kino-K well he may still have his personality and his knowledge
Cuz Ana bray acts a lot like she was described before she was a Guardian and she has learned 80% of her past
"Eramis could have grown to be an immense threat!"
Didn't that happen in the Stranger's Timeline? Hence the time travel and coming to Europa?
Yeah in the dark timeline she survived and became a major threat. We nipped it in the bud
@@Dream146 apparently all our enemies converged to destroy us in that timeline, including the guardians that turned to the darkness because of Eramis. Without Eramis, dark guardians don’t exist, therefore this future can’t happen.
@@MesoMania
Actually, the first dark guardians where created when they tried to destroy the heart of the black garden in her timeline
@@MesoMania Eramis was just one of the many threats that caused the dark timelines, but the main problem there was the Black Heart and the dark guardians that it spawned. And apparently Eris Morn.
@@DetectiveWarden well that happens in our timeline too, just an insignificant amount to mean anything
Eramis is an extremely interesting character for me when looking over Eliksni lore. Love this vid.
You haven't finished even watching it
That does not really change that she was still an interesting character.
@@jackyamero5129 it is true that I did not finish the video, but I was genuinely happy to see this lore video pop up, since I already read the lore book and was just happy to see the vid. Sorry if it bothered you😅
@@lukebarroso449 what is that dude’s deal? Who could possibly care enough about that to comment? Weird AF.
@@MrDemian0666 nah its cool, everyone is entitled to say whatever they want to say, no harm done.
Variks is a character with no real friends or enemies, he only has his interest. His interest or loyalty is the survival of the Eliksni people.
nhan cao a noble goal, I forgive him about cayde, he had no intentions of the actions taken, only to set in motion necessary events, while I don’t like what happened to cayde, the sake of our timeline rests on every precise action taking place. Hopefully but sadly caydes death catalyzing the future events is what is needed to save it.
I consider variks a friend
I think that 'Variks the Loyal' is a subtle and vague name. Loyal to whom ? The Queen ? Eliksni ? A Fallen House ? It's never clearly said. I would guess that he's loyal to the Eliksni above all else, seeing his actions
“Come then pawn, show me what freedom has given you.”
*Moves one space*
[Surprised Yelp]
"Show me what freedom has given you"
"A void sword!"
"Wait wha-"
*Dies in less then 5 seconds*
@@aghitsaplane4262 yup that sword is so powerful its gonna be sad vaulting it when its no longer powerful
@@Kai_Mercer lament silly
@@Kai_Mercer but I will miss spin spin
@@aghitsaplane4262 a flaming chainsaw sword.
*dies in 0.1 seconds*
I never realized how old eramis actually is. She was alive not only when the traveler left the fallen, but when it arrived hundreds of years ago.
yup
So is Variks
I really hope what the Darkness told Kridis was true, and Eramis will come back to life, stronger than she was. She was killed off too quickly in my opinion.
Me too, she had so much potential and they threw it away
So basically she pulled a Oryx
From what Kridis says in that one mission it really sounds like Eramis is in the Ascendant Plane, a lot of the terminology she uses is really reminiscent of how others talk of that realm.
And hopefully Mithrax makes an appearance to help us fight her
im curious to how she won in the exo stranger darkness timeline
6:18
Eramis has no House. She kneels before no banner, owes allegiance to no Kell. She is a shipstealer, and very good at what she does. I have been tracking her since she broke out, yes? Now Eramis works for Darkness, but not for long.
Third time's a charm, right?
RIGHT!?
(Technically fourth by our count)
At 16:33, In case y'all are wondering who is Athrys.
For Hunters, her name might look familiar because she has an extoic named after her, ATHYRS’S EMBRACE.
She really isn't mentioned in any lore books besides "The Once-Shipstealer" but Variks does talk about her relationship with Earmis in the Sabotage lore tabs.
Basically, Athrys was Eramis' mate back when the Traveller was still with the Elkisni. They had many hatchlings and were quite happy together according to Variks. We don't know her fate but Eramis mentioned that Athrys was banging on the walls of her own or Eramis sleeping pod begging for the Traveller to come back.
For me, I believe Athrys and their hatchlings are dead. It would provide a great motive for why Earmis hates the Traveller along with her other motives. It would explain her hatred towards the guardians and Traveller is much more impactful because in a way, the Traveller
took everything from her.
It's also a bit of irony because the Traveller destroyed her past life. We destroyed her present one by killing her House and all the dreams a better life for the fallen with it.
Sources:
www.ishtar-collective.net/items/rendezvous-with-variks-35?highlight=Athrys
www.ishtar-collective.net/items/power-hungry?highlight=Athrys
{SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT VIDEO}
www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/vi-the-herald?highlight=Athrys
"Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained?! Is that not why you're here?"
- Eramis in the Prison of Elders.
what saint 14 and ana bray say on the radio at beyond is very interesting they tell you how powerful eramis was she was respected and feared by them both.
And that stands true for normal guardians but we are the exception. Especially if you are a D1 vet.
Wait saint and ana can be heard? I need to listen to that radio more
@@ritsukaseriyko1491 But we have to keep in mind that these are also Guardian legends saying this.
Saint 14 and Ana are by no means normal guardians, they’re more then likely the next options in case the player character ever failed.
@@HeroAndReporter you beat me to it!!!! thank you!💯
@@DragonKnight90001 yes PLEASE take time to listen to the radio messages
I think they might actually have further plans for Eremis. Her _literally_ being in stasis and us not smashing her like we've been proved more than capable of is definitely a hint to that. They've built her up for a while as such am interesting and formidable foe, just for is to defeat her so quickly.
Here's to hoping they have a few tricks still left up their sleeves for this interesting piece on the multidimensional chess board
The final tab when Eramis was talking about Taniks was sooooo cool, the imagery of all the Fallen VIPs storming the city is just so cool
It is so cool that this one lore book connects Forsaken to Beyond Light. It feels weirdly... natural.
Stasis fallen rivaling the guardians:
Me who soloed the whole campaign: bruh
Well in canon your guardian is the guardian of guardians
Regular guardians. We are the exceptional ones.
Stasis guardians absolutely destroying every other class on the game:
Me who doesn’t have BL and therefore doesn’t deserve too live: bruh
@@ritsukaseriyko1491 😂
@@kahlebhowarth-jennings9688 still rather have a stasis titan charging me then a striker😂
Eramis is one of my favorite main villains in the series so far and even though there wasn't much for her cutscene wise her and her generals (cant remember the exact term) during those interactions was pretty neat even her voice lines made her character one of my favorites especially with the strike and her trying to bring a vex army was actually pretty smart in my opinion if she was able to figure out a way to control them and we weren't able to stop the mind and the hydra or her she definitely would have been the next ghaul in able to take the city and possibly the entire system even faster than the red legion did
She had no mechanism to control the Vex, she just wanted them to cause chaos and hopefully distract us from the deep stone crypt.
The fact that she's only frozen and not dead makes me think that she'll come back in the future. heres hoping.
@@TempestFox i kinda like eramis more than variks or mithrax after hearing the traveller straight up just abandoned the eliksni i feel her anger and rage is kinda justified and in destiny 2 the vanguard would be the secret villain
@@eesamohammed2104 The only reason the Traveler had stayed within the confines of the Last City, was because Rasputin shot it down before it could leave us.
@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 then why doesmt it leave now rasputin has been shut down by the darkness now
"Eramis could have been a ridiculous threat to guardians" she was a huge force during the Stranger's timeline's Bombardment...
Dead Drifter and hobo Zavala
@@jamesdleon6853 Eris also becoming a Hive Death God, and Sith Ana Bray.
Before she was Eramiskel she was Eramis
What did you think she was Eramisdreg?
I thought she was Erimandal
Nope, Byf missed the lore of Eramishank
... ...
fine I'll say it...
She was also know as Eramiservitor
@@MadMatt32 i see what you did there.
"Yes... I will name this world....Europa. it will be a cold...dark... and very gentle place. And one day, it will make someone a goodly home."
@@AnvilJeff lol Eramis + vandal
I haven't played D2 yet, but Eramis sounds like an amazing character, who really shows how the Fallen were such a threat to city so long ago. I wish she'd been teased during house of wolves, even with a throwaway line. I hope she becomes the equivalent of a guardian for the darkness.
Eramis will comeback. Destiny needs a true villain like her, with porpouse and ideals. I Really want see her on a new Raid or even a new Dg
Savuthun is gonna fill that hole very well if they execute it correctly.
Yeah I honestly full heartedly believe that Eramis will come back for quite a few reasons
@@Marceline-0522 me too
@@Marceline-0522 imagine if they bring her back as a scorn
Bungie's going to bring her back after whirlwind blade gets nerfed. That's why Taniks the Abomination can fly, so you can't use a sword on him.
Eramis and Fikrul: "reject Traveler, embrace Ether"
I REALLY wanna see byfs reaction to finding out clarity controls was a giant winnower statue
The statue of the lady in the raid?
Wasn’t even a statue shit was actually moving and breathing
@@aidanwatson7548 exactly it’s dormant it’s living and breathing it freaked me out!!!
@@bspoon2529 wait. What?
@@Aves_1 go near it and it whispers, its creepy and yet fun and wonderous
Just finished Beyond Light after taking a break from the game. It’s so nice and convenient to have Byf to tell me all that sweet lore
That's audio books for you
can you do a breakdown series explaining everything about the races including anatomy, reproduction, nutrient intake, culture etc? id love to know more stuff like that about the fallen and cabal and psions and other races. cheers!
IDK If that lore exists
@@Aves_1 shame
I'm concerned that reproduction was the second item on your list there. Right next to anatomy.
@@Kjf365 lmao ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Lol
Petition to have bungie give this man a character in game that reads the lore and explains everything to us??? Ya that sounds like a good plan
exactly Byf the great scholar " The archive father " or something like that
Book daddy
Lore daddy
@@SmittyMacJones imagine it's just a giant underground library 😍 brother BYF the archive father protector of Lore
Or could be one among The Nine, as they just like to observe ongoing events. This one witnesses and documents everything.
Your videos are so amazing and helpful!! I’m a total lore nerd when it comes to destiny but have a very hard time reading the lore cards on my own due to mild adhd that makes it difficult to keep everything straight in my head. Your videos make things so much easier to understand!! You do an amazing thing for this community and provide entertainment to so many people!! Appreciate everything you do immensely.
YEAH, I'VE ALSO BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Man, Byf videos just make me so happy.
Byf making the games lore more entertaining than the actual Game...
When I get confused as to what the fuck is happening in the game BYF is my go to channel this guy literally makes half the game.. Bungie should hire him as our in game lore speaker
The power of summation..
That writing is fuckin delectable. That conversation with eramis and praxis was so good
You know,the first couple people are actually pretty chill
Generally I put these videos on in the background for the commentary, but when I do actually watch I completely appreciate that the gameplay is like watching myself or any other average player play! Bfy you need to do some videos over PvP gameplay, just once!! Keep up the good work man.
i absolutely loved getting the entire lore book. even tho we had to do "5 seconds to paradise" challenge on Atriks
Just want to say how excited I am to dive into this Lore, thanks for the video Byf
We all love you byf
It’s a good day when you hear hello guardians my name is byf
Byf we gonna need a breakdown on that lock build
I had no idea that Eramis and her council escaped during the first Forsaken mission. The more you know
Did anyone find Eramis adorable? Best expansion yet❤️
Adorable?
Hell no lmao
I find dregs kinda cute but as a whole fallen can be really derpy
I really want to see some art of Eramis and Arthys
“Omg this person getting their own people killed while planning a genocide is so cute”
Gtfo
We need to make an alliance with House Light.
These juicy quick uploads!
Nice new Byf vid.
I honestly wish that the campaign ended with stopping Eremis' empire from attacking the last city in something like another battle of eight fronts. Then she could be maintained as the leader of the fallen dark empire and the ability of these dark fallen to continue using the darkness would make more sense. As a villain Eremis brings something destiny hasn't ha in villains thus far, an actual fascist. Like, she is an incredibly close parallel for the nazis, even with her own "stabbed in the back" conspiracy centered on the traveller and a race she wants to genocide (us). As an enemy she could have been our most compelling and dangerous for so far.
Fantastic as always loredaddy
Always good to see your uploads, dude. I’m excited to see what you have in store for us.
excited for more of these beyond light videos
Thanks for making videos again I fell out of love with the gameplay loop with destiny but I love the lore been waiting on your beyond light videos.
Video series idea; Deep dive into individual enemy types / subtypes (minitor, captain, ogar, ext) their background lore and how they interact with others, pepper in some stories about key individual. Just like this video it will help us really understand the motivations of our many foes.
Cant wait to see The taniks the reborn lore, so many questions rise up when you see him returning from D1
I’ve always wondered...did the traveler bestow it’s “light” on the Eliksni the same way it does with humans on earth currently? Basically we’re there Eliksni guardians then? Or did they benefit in a more “golden age” manner without the space magic? I’ve always thought an Eliksni guardian would make for a dope subclass.
As far as i know, Humanity/Awoken/Exo are the only ones who have gotten the light, because we are the only ones whom the Traveler stayed for, rather than like the Eliksni where the Traveler fled.
@@LowIntSpecimen thanks! Although...I have to say...I really do feel like the lore has been hinting at the traveler ditching earth as well.
I can imagine byf in the destiny universe as a warlock who tells stories and talks about his findings on a podcast
The Fallen are my favourite race. To fight, To kill and to learn about. Not all Eliksni are enemies. But they are such a beautiful race in a way. Everything they've ever known was destroyed. Their home, their culture, their very way of life, gone. and yet here they are still, fighting for what little they have. In that aspect, Eliksni and Humanity have a lot more in common than people first thought.
My favorite part of this was seeing that I wasn't the only one struggling with Wyverns
It's also important to note - when talking about Eramis in contrast to other Fallen leaders - that she is not only doing away with the idea of taking back the Great Machine for the Eliksni, but she is also giving them a new home. This is a fundamental paradigm shift in terms of what we've see previously. There hasn't been an Eliksni to this point who has stood in opposition to us who has offered something "new". The Devils, the Wolves, they wanted to destroy us and take the Great Machine, but Eramis proposes to - yes - destroy us, and then build a new Riis, a new home so that the Eliksni no longer exist as a species of nomads and pirates.
Can we get a lore video talking about Siegfried? I read about him in the Titan Wild Hunt armor. He is a Titan of the Praxic order and one of Ikora's Hidden. Super interesting.
Also, the regular flavor text of the Wild Hunt armor hints at some smart creature in Old Chicago that killed several Fireteams trying to hunt it. Reminds me of a xenomorph.
I want to point out that Quitters Well in the Tangled Shore is really close to a fallen city/community. The entrance to the Hallowed lair strike seems to be surrounded by eliksni homes.
Here i am again, lore daddy about to tell me a bedtime story, i had 2 strokes in 2017 at the age of 34 and still recovering and had the hardest time falling asleep as my head starts racing straight away, your vids stop me from listening to my head🤞 you’re really having a positive influence on my mental health brother, keep it up as i do require more sleep because of the strokes, fir everybody that read this, live healthy, be safe and blessed🙌 eramis is still a pleb imo😂
Can't wait for the video on the dark timeline. I already read it but it would be cool to hear it from you.
They really did my girl Eramis dirty
facts
I see a new BYF Destiny Lore video, I click.
*insect like chattering*
So far. Pretty good lore video.
i don't play Destiny but i absolutely LOVE your videos!
Hello Byf!! Great Vid btw
I would also have mentioned that she lost her wife and children in the Whirlwind too, adding a layer of grief to her actions
I actually Eramis she is an very interesting character she does care for her people but going about it an the most extreme way. How she said once in an conversation to us as guardians oh how we could of been allies I will rooting for this but sadly she couldn’t be saved.
Eramis is badass, extremely interesting and to me the best antagonist in destiny 2
One thing that keeps bugging me is how Atraks became Atraks-1 so quickly and when Eramis says “prepare the body” was she referring to Taniks?
Yes
A Dreg of House Salvation shivered in the desolate cold of the Cadmus Ridge. How she longed to once again be on the tropical Venus, though that land had long been cleared of her former house. Two other dregs sat near her as she kept lookout, they whispered and laughed as a vandal and two shanks scrounged an old human chest.
The other two were speaking of some story about the old Kell, something about how Eramiskel would return as a god and cast the system in Darkness. She never understood their fixation with the Kell and her darkness, she came to Europa for safety, not another war. Of course she did not voice these qualms as she would likely receive harsh reprimanding.
She had witnessed the powers the higher levels of the house wielded, and she wanted no part of it. It was so...unnatural. And to see the Machineborn use the same only confirmed that they were not meant for Eliksni hands, or at the very least did not care whose hands wielded them. As she thought this, a figure rose from over a nearby ridge, she only had a split second to notice it was a Machineborn before she felt a searing pain and heard ringing. She fell over, writhing in pain, unable to see or hear.
She rose her head and could just barely see the outlines of shanks falling apart and the vandal running for his life only for his head to explode with Ether. A shadow fell over he, a rifle aimed at her head. The Machineborn's faceless helmet faced her and somehow she recognized it. She soon realized she had seen it when she had served the House of Kings and witnessed the fall of Skolas. And for some reason, she did not feel fear. She waited, staring into the depths of the helmet for the end...
But it did not come. The Machineborn's tiny servitor appeared and spoke to it, nodding towards her. It said nothing until it heard its- his- voice from behind the helm. Speaking in Eliksni.
"You do not fear death. You do no fear me. Either you are brave or foolhardy. Either way, if you seek freedom from this forsaken world." He tosses a small machine pad to her feet as well as a small tank of Ether he looted from the vandal. "Follow this. I will wait."
And like that, in a flash of light, he was gone. And she was left there. She quickly took the Ether and the pad, which projected a holographic map of Riis-Reborn's northwestern sector. She did not know why, but she felt compelled to follow it. From on high, the guardian watched the Dreg crawl away, with a fierce will to live.
Despite himself, he smiled.
Our character and the vanguard are slowly but surely looking like absolute villains
A not totally completely unrelated question but something I was thinkin about, is Stasis or in the least our Stasis subclass "corrupted" darkness since it was "given" to us instead of instead of "taken" from some source, like how Oryx took "taking" from Akka? The Darkness even mentions how it's a "gift" it wants us to have but that should be an aspect of the Light's nature.
Hey, i just listend to your video about savathuns Song.
3 Days ago i was walking around in the city. I was passing by the cleaner Robot in the corner when you go from the right landing platform through the Room with the Tree.
(He is swiping abit behind that the little Dead End on the right side)
And he was actually humming that song while i was passing by.
I had no idea what that song was what so ever until i watched your video.
I am not to deep into lore, but does that mean Savathuns song also infects machines?
I just with we had some buildup to Eramis before the dlc dropped. Like maybe signs of the fallen going to Europa or whispers of the fallen wielding darkness. It just felt like she was just put there cause they needed a villain but yet again the story is in the lore and not the missions.
Maybe I’m weird but I definitely found Eramis to be the most sympathetic villain. If this was some kind of multiple ending single player game I’d have sided with her.
Beyond Light's only major story foible is that it killed off all remaining named Fallen antagonists. It wouldn't have been too terribly hard to 'beat' Erasmis without killing or capturing her, sort of putting the fight on hold. We'd still have a big climax where we master Stasis, but from that point onward we'd have not only an Elinski antagonist on the board, but a rival.
What I got from this is how ridiculously powerful the Guardian is. Just because of their marksmanship, mastery of all weapons, and a 'light level' that seems to surpass every other NPC guardian.
Eramis was dead within 10 minutes tops to an on the level to overleveled Guardian. While in the lore she managed to final death dozens.
I hope eramis’s story isn’t done they hinted at it with the kridis empire hunt but I feel like it’ll come back into play in the future
Bungie, naming an arrogant character Praxis. *Perfection*
Still waiting for Eliksni to become a playable race. I don't mind even I don't get to use the light sub class.
Now I wonder if perhaps we could have reasoned with Eramis. She was not irrational, just lost in the search for a future for her people. (Thx for the video Byf, it help me keep up with the lore now that i don't have that much time to read in peace.
Can you talk about how banshee 44 is actually THE Clovis Bray Exo? I just read about it in the loretabs and was absolutely mindblown
I love your lore videos
You left out a little bit about Eramis, her wife Athrys, and their children back on Riis. She was friends with Variks, and studied the Traveler before the Whirlwind. How much she lost, and the Traveler's apparent betrayal feeling so personal, play a big part in her motivations.
Listening to this lores while eyes close is amazing lets me imagine whats going on in the lore! 👍😁
These videos would be great as a audio book
Eramis earned my respect.
Now hol' up, does that lore card confirm that Praksis invents Servitors...? Or was his remark metaphorical, in that his new "spheres" will be the new foundations of their new culture?
It was metaphorical, yes. Servitors came into being some time after the whirlwind, but before they entered the Sol system, as the Eliksni needed some way to create new supplies of Ether.
@@S3Cs4uN8 That's what I figured. I just heard that line and did a doubletake. Had no idea quite how long Eramis and Praksis were in the Prison for.
I was hoping she'd pop up in the raid somehow like oryx was killed in the campaign and we fought him in his throne world in the raid, eramis got frozen but was transferred into an exo or something. Also sucks that there arent any fallen in the raid that use stasis at all
Does anyone have a lore book(s) that talk more about iliksni history, this is my favorite part of destiny's lore
Great video 💞
I just realized how old variks is, if he was there when the traveler left their home world...
The prison break gives Bungie an infinite amount of potential enemies the Awoken captured a lot of races .. what about that Vex mind Drifter talks about that all the other subtypes bowed down too ..
Is there any lore for the black armory? I mean where did ada 1 go after beyond light, did she just vanish?
I ask myself this every time I pass her doorway 🤔
Waiting for a byf video and then having two turn up in 24hrs is such a good feeling!
Eramis deserved better than story mission boss. Hope they revive her as a half Fallen half stasis ice. Comes back as a raid boss using our own stasis abilities as well as some new ones. Then as a final stand wipe mechanic, there would only be like 1% chance of survival without something like a shield from Vault of Glass. But that shield would not be given in the raid but instead have to be found. Like a fork in the road where one path is clearly the right way to go for the raid but a lore book mentions the other path having that shield. Just thinking of how stressful this could be for day one raiders when they reach Eramis and failing over and over again makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside~~
Really want to hear how Mithrax the kell of light doing now after seeing how far Eramis got with the darkness. Feel like the fallen need a win after taking so many L' s. Plus that dark future lore book just tells me that the traveler is not to be trusted fully. The traveler is like that partner in a relationship who is afraid of commitment.
I wonder how Mithrax is doing with the Eliksni civilians since the evacuation mission of the campaign step. Hope we get to see him someday.
we did see mithrax in red war
*waits patiently for the Atraks lore video*
Wow I like the connection in the events of destiny oryx ghaul variks all that.
"Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth eramis the wise?"