I bought this car a month ago and I really like it. I did 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. I know it's no HEMI or Hellcat but it is the car I can afford in Michigan. It snowed here this week and it was fun hitting the gas in the turns with control. I averaged 27 mpg when out of "sport" mode (20% city, 80% Hwy). It sound ok when you hit the gas. Bottom line for me is it's MY Challenger.
I live in NY and the winter was brutal this year, a snowstorm every week. I'm seriously considering this car, combination of the aesthetic I like with the functionality I actually need.
When they announced this, I was definitely in the camp of "A V6 AWD is not a muscle car." Eventually, I realized this is the perfect car for me. I don't live my life a quarter mile at a time, and I live in the midwest, where we'll have summer and winter - sometimes in the same week. Do I miss the V8 rumble? Definitely. But this gets better mileage, and the AWD in winter is amazing. The trunk is ginormous. It's a fantastic highway cruiser. It's a gorgeous, timeless design. Manual transmissions are vastly overrated, especially in a daily driver, and after 15 years of DD'ing a manual I don't miss it. I've hit 6 seconds flat (according to the dash timer), which is plenty fast. Don't sleep on the GT simply because of the specs. It is damn near a perfect cruiser.
This is a great blend of a sporty looking and performing vehicle that seats more than 2 occupants comfortably, gets decent mpg's, has a trunk area that accommodates more than a suitcase or set of golf clubs , AND can be used safely and efficiently in all types of weather and road surfaces.
You are right. I've been through your stage in life--where you think you need to wear your perceived manliness on the outside, through a vehicle, etc. When you grow up, you'll realize that doesn't get it.
GT = Granturismo, which means a road car meant to be driven in all types of weather.. I think this qualifies. You want this in Muscle Car from, buy an R/T, Scat Pak or a Hell Cat. And it's a 2 or 3 season car at best...
I always loved the classic, retro look of the challenger-and I wanted one for day to day use as my only car. I’m not into racing or doing burnouts either. I live in the northeast where we get snow and ice so the AWD challenger was a no brainer for me. It’s not going to win any races, but this beast got up my steep neighborhood hill in blizzard without any problems. Also a fantastic highway cruiser in the spring and summer months. A true muscle car? No. An awesome year round sports car? Absolutely!
well, its my type of car. I love the way the challenger look and that's it. There is absolutely no need of HEMI for me since i'm not a drag racer. AWD is kinda necessary in WA. So why the hell not?
First, this is a Grand Touring option for the pony car class. Second, the muscle car references and hate because of the lack of a mighty V8 are practically hilarious. How many muscle cars through the years produced less than 300HP? Answer....LOTS..... The Camaro has had SS and Z models producing sub 300 HP numbers from the 1st generation on. Hell the early 80s Z28 came standard with a whopping 145HP and yes that was a 5.0l V8....lol. The list goes on and on. Sure, today's V8s are powerful, but so is the 3.6l that's in this. It performs as it should, comfortably without the risk of wrapping it around a tree or pole everytime you punch it.
This entire comment section is "pretty sure my car can beat this" nonsense. Personally I don't give two shits about those comments. If I wanted to hear about that car, I would've looked it up. I'm here to hear about the Challenger. I have questions, Nathan. While driving this car, did you like it? Would you recommend it for someone looking to get something sporty that still handles bad weather well? How's the visibility? Are the blind spots a killer? Can you change lanes in it on a crowded highway with ease, or is it hard to spot traffic coming up from the back right side? These are things that I want to know as someone looking into this car. It really is a beautiful car, and I'd hate to smack it up because I couldn't see the guy in the next lane
Sorry...I'm late to this party, I know. But I just gotta point out something here: Notice the reviewer is doing his review in Colorado. Altitude---and the accompanying decrease in oxygen content---plays a real factor here. Boulder is about parallel with Denver in terms of altitude, maybe a little higher because it's right up against the Front Range. This means that an engine making 305 hp at sea level---is not making that much up here. (For reference, Denver sits at 5280 feet. Boulder's probably up around 6000' or more.)
I have 2018 Challenger GT. The passenger and driver side windows are nice and large, increasing visibility in that aspect. The front windshield is pretty tight in height, but, I imagine its a sports car thing. I find myself rarely using the sun visor and I drive toward sunset almost every day. The rear pillars that hold the roof, block a good amount of visibility, but I have gotten used to it. Since the rear end with spoiler is fairly high up, I don't get blinded by the headlights of cars behind me. I have the "Driver convenience group" package, which adds a bind spot detection system. If you are driving, the system has arrows on the mirrors that will light up when someone is in your blind spot. When in reverse, the vehicle will yell at you if there is movement behind you, or you are getting too close to something. I was puling out of my driveway and the car was able to detect an oncoming car, across the street, several houses down. Of course, I don't just rely on the blind spot system, but, its definitely a nice feature to have.
Never had a chance to drive the AWD, but I drove a RWD Challenger SXT in the snow once. It is practically the same car, with the same engine. I was surprised at how well the RWD handled in the snow, so I can confidently say that AWD would be extremely safe to drive in the snow. About the visibility... The front windshield and the windows combine to make a somewhat cockpit style setup, so the visibility is wonderful. The rear windshield is a little cramped, but the rearview mirror in the center is extremely large so it doesn't really affect visibility. The blind spots aren't really bad if your mirrors are adjusted, and I'm sure they all come with blind spot monitors. What I really loved was that the central rearview mirror is so broad that you can usually see a broader frame in the lane behind you, so it is easier to spot vehicles that might be moving into your blind spots. Highway driving is a breeze. It handles much better than you would expect from a car this heavy. I'd suggest getting a test drive. Enterprise usually has them in their lot.
I bought a 2018 GT. Blacktop. I average 28.5 MPG on a daily commute of 140 miles. The only time it "scared me" was when I saw red / blue, stomped the brakes, and THEN realized I was on ice.....is what it is. I love it for the "plant" on the road, the ride comfort, the awesome 506 watt Alpine, the Alacantra Leather (upcharge since 2019) heated / ventilated seats, and the additional 'free options" like performance gauges / sport pack etc. This car has been great. Especially the previous "red / blue" incident....it was taking care of ME without me even realizing it. And no - I'm not a millennial- I drove in Michigan winters with 2wd (RWD) for MANY (20) years - it just took away some of the Michigan winter conditions without any undue strain on my driving ability. I'm 56 and don't want to be sideways......all in all- this car is great!
I love how all the people who are commenting about that its "slow" have no actual clue of how quick of a car it is, or they must be ferrari owners. In real life driving, this is a very quick car. With our speed limits and police on every corner, why would you need even more power?
Genadiy Ivken why do you need more money in life? Why do we eat 50$ steaks? People will always want more, and a v6 isn't going to it it for most. If it was turbocharged or supercharged I can see that but right now dodge is selling a awd Impala. Shit I bet my brothers v6 impala would beat it
Love the Hellcat, of course, and any other V8-equipped Challenger, but honestly 300 hp in the V6 would be just fine with me. AWD here in our Chicago winters would be fantastic. The only thing I'd cringe a bit about the Challenger GT with V6 and hood scoops and vivid paint is that so many other people would expect so much more from a Challenger, just based on its reputation, that it would suck to say "Um, mine only has the V6." lol
lmao except ripp is a rip off and you'll probably blow the thing. they have been delaying for so many months now its ridiculous. better off with a hemi. especially for the cost of this vs the same car with a hemi is exactly the same
Thedustyaman is right. And no you don't need to upgrade internals. I own a RIPP in my grand cherokee with a pentastar.. even with the drivetrain loss I'm still around 400 whp. The charger obviously isn't 4wd so yes it will put down around 430 to the wheels pretty reliably. The pentastars a pretty strong engine and has proven to take boost better than the v8s on stock internals. Wouldn't push anymore than 10 psi though.
Rocco Seals and it got discontinued due to low sales. The only people who bought them weren't even people, it was airport rental fleets and law enforcement agencies. It didn't sell enough in the market for Dodge to justify keep making the car so they axed it. Makes sense from a business standpoint. Why keep a product around if it's not going to make you money?
dodge probably put that shit car out there so we can turn away from them because of that disappointed block of plastic so when the demon is out people are amazed and get a Dodge
One thing many fail to realize is that back when the original challenger,mustang,camaro,etc came out they not only had v8's but also inline 6's which made far less power and got less mileage than the new v6's do so there's truly nothing wrong with a v6 in any of these cars.
Why is there always people saying dumb things like get a RT... I remember in the 70s a muscle car would go 0-60 in 5.8 -6.5 you had a badass fast car. This car is a v6 and could challenge those 70s muscle cars time. Drive what you like and need, at the end if the day it's still a dodge.
v6 and awd is no longer a muscle car.....it's a daily driver. Though you can do some muffler modification and make it sound better and more like a v8 though. Personally I love it and can't wait to get one.
Hopefully people who own this car don’t give a shite what anyone else thinks about their ride. Love the one you’re with, baby. Love the one you’re with.
I've only driven one challenger. It was a v6(3.6). It was wet and cold out. The tires were old and hard. All it wanted to do was break loose. AWD seems the obvious answer. Used they're under 25k all day.
i think Dodge designed it to be that quiet.. i mean it's a daily driver that looks badass! as far as sound goes, that's why there's the Borla S and Atak exhaust systems. i pick mine up in 2 weeks, Frostbite w/BlkTop pkg, stripe, SXT. ☮
I don't consider the V6 to be a muscle car engine. It's basically a trim level for people who like the look of the muscle car, but don't care about performance. That's just my thoughts on that.
I pulled mine into my friends driveway, which is a wet muddy mess, to play with the AWD. With only RWD engaged I tried to gently drive. The rear just ended up sliding like 2 feet sideways. 2 seconds later the AWD kicks in and I'm off, like there was never an issue. Most people who drive challengers don't go playing in the mud, but, sometimes you just have to :)
I just bought a 2017 GT in Green GO with 58k miles for $27k . I could have bought the hemi 6 speed in same color with 20k miles for another $5K but the GT is more practical and mine was loaded with $6200 in options. I pick it up his Friday. Pretty sure I'll love it .The AWD is really helpful when the roads flood which is more common than snow in my area.
Why don't people understand this car is for that person that wants a challenger but don't want to worry about getting stuck in the snow? it's some people that want the challenger for the looks and not the power
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
I'm still confused as to which market this is for. Not only is it a v6-which is fine since 6's are good nowadays-but awd. Is it necessary? With the v6 and original weight does it actually make a difference? And if people wanted to drive it in the winter, wouldn't it be more cost effective to just buy the appropriate tires?
BFMV409 people will never understand that and Dodge is capitalizing on that. tbh if they made a v8 version I would have considered it, but currently I drive the scat pack with winter tires in the Canadian winter and never had a problem yet
You say that, but I doubt you would. AWD Scat Pack sounds great, until you realize how heavy and fuel inefficient that would be. The Scat Pack barely gets by without a gas guzzler tax, and add the weight and extra friction of AWD (assuming it could even fit in the front, as the engine is so big), and you'd have a massive boat anchor of a car. The V6, being smaller and lighter, likely makes it the weight of the V8 with still a little bit higher fuel efficiency than the V8, which is good above the snow belt.
DumbDuck44 v8 awd rnt a new concept in the automotive world, just look at some of the German coupes, but I know what u mean... this generation definitely can't support a v8 awd.. hopefully the weight-loss tricks they learn from the demon can be implemented on the next generation challenger.
Think they said when asked this that they sell more Challenger v6 models than any other challenger so they thought it would appeal to the biggest market they could. Lets just hope they sell a lot because this front drive train came out of the v8 cop car so it can certainly handle a v8 as it already does... then we are talking real potential
The WRX has its own problems though, and need to address the very poor NVH, inside materials quality, and improve the fuel economy of the STI version as they run so rich its a gas guzzler. The Dodge is heavy, but on the plus side I have to say they have a really great Uconnect infotainment system (probably the best in the industry right now), decent quality soft touch materials everywhere it counts, and plenty of sound insulation so you get engine noise but not a lot of squeaks and rattles and wind noise like you do in WRXs right now.
2022, Bought this 2017 car 2 weeks ago. Only had 37k and dude traded in to same dealership he bought from. Is IMMACULATE. Not a single scratch; So safe in bad weather. Large size scared me at 1st. Paid 29k. Hope I got a good deal; BUT I LOVE THIS CAR!
Hey I'm in Boulder too and own one of these cars! An aftermarket exhaust makes a huge difference and it's an amazing year round daily for the colder states. That being said, it's only a true grand touring car, not a muscle car. Throw a blower on the pentastar and it gets pretty fun though.
Well back in the 70s didn't the base Challenger come with the slant 6 and if so I know it didn't have the power that is car gets? Plus did the 318V8 Challenger have 305 HP from the factory? I'll have to look it up, but 305 HP is still pretty good. The Mustang still offers a 4 banger, I know it's bosted but still a 4 banger. Anyways if I was going to buy a challenger, I would buy this car because for every day driver all I would need is a V6 because I wouldn't be racing anyone or taking it to the track, so if it had anymore power it would just be a waste.
305hp in the modern world is much more than the gross ratings in 1970. The 426 Hemi when tested net HP was about 360, the LS6 454 of 1970 put down 288 to the wheels which meant about 350 net in today's ratings (GM called it 450hp). That would be even less with all the accessories of modern motors like 140+amp alternators and air conditioning. This 305hp Challenger probably makes more power than anything short of a 440 or 426 of 1970. Not great but not bad. www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2013/08/13/Horsepower
I test drove an 2017 Challenger R/T. And I think it's cool but I just didn't like it. It felt like I was in a pickup truck it rode so high, and it felt like more of a heavy cruiser than a sports car. Good daily driver though.
If you pay MSRP. Dodge customers are used to the overpriced sticker so you think you are getting a deal, deal. Buy a Toyota, and you're almost always paying over invoice at minimum. I bought a Scat Pack though with an MSRP of $46K for $39K out the door after taxes (6.25%) and rebates and everything. I've seen discounts on Dodge Ram's of $10K+. So remember to compare true street prices, as that can make a huge difference, at least it did for me.
They would sell a shit ton of these AWDs if they came with a 5.7 hemi and a 6 speed stick. They will make that an available option within a couple model years.
I've never understood why Chrysler hasn't offered a tweaked version of the Pentastar engine. A HP V6 could work very nicely and could enable them to offer GT packages in many of their offerings.
you said muscle cars these days can last 100,000 miles or more like that was impressive. if I had a vehicle that didnt last 100,000 miles or more I would be pissed.
You apparently haven't been driving all that long. When the original "muscle cars" hit the streets in the mid 60s their owners had a tendency to thrash them mercilessly. Consequently, the cars that weren't demolished had their engines worn out not long after the short warranty period was past.
In my opinion, the GT should only come in AWD and be offered in Northern or more cool environments. If you live in Tropical climate, the SXT blacktop makes more financial sense unless the GT gets heavily discounted.
As a fan of the Challenger in Utah, where we often have nasty winters, I really wish they had an R/T Scat Pack with AWD. The V8 Hemi is just so much more appealing. Otherwise I would have to get expensive snow tires and even then it wouldn't be as good as the AWD.
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
I think the biggest use case for this is for people who live in areas with snow bit still want to drive it all year round. I really don't think this is a "performance" car as the Challenger would advertise but it's a neat daily driver I guess.
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
$39k? sorry, I'd get a wrx/sti if I was basing it off awd and coolness factor. yes this is far more comfortable, but you can't beat a Subaru awd system
Mythiic If I were going to drop $39k on a muscle car, I'd rather get a loaded up Mustang GT or Camaro SS, hands down. You don't get a muscle car because it's good in snow. That's what a winter beater is for.
Jordan Pence I'm aware. but he seemed to be using 'coolness' and awd as his criteria. if that's the case, a sedan with a giant wing always wins. if you want a 'muscle car' no doubt the Camaro is better
true, i drive brand new chargers and challengers everyday lol, the v6's are slow. I got beat by a accord v6. But coolness is what the charger and challenger stand for hahah. They are fuking aggresive looking cars. The v6's are not made for racing or driving fast they are literally made for people who commute everyday and want to drive something cool looking and fuel efficient. Dont compare a bland fucking subaru to these cars lollll. I have pretty much driven everything and subies are pureshit except thier awd system. STI looks like a boxed toyota with a wing and the interiors are ugly af!!!!!
Depends kn where you live/what driving conditions. If you dont really need to worry about bad weather then get a rt/rt scat. If you have to drive in bad weather go for the GT. If you just want a good v8 go for the rt. If your performance hungry, get the scat
@@dannygallagher9290 Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
get the v8 and get snow tires, ive driven RWD cars in snow for years and years just get winter tires Ive drive AWD with all-seasons in snow and RWD with winter tires in snow, the RWD with the proper tire feels a lot more secure, your not slidding around as much when your breaking because your car doesn't skid because its cant grip on the ice/snow, you have more control turning with the proper tire set up its not even close just get winter tires, for anyone out there stop spending money on drive train options you don't need, get a proper tire set up thats actually safer and properly grips your car in winter weather. Plus the material the tires are made with are more appropriate and grip better in cold weather, stop being lazy AWD won't do s*** when you hit your brakes in snow/ice and the shitty all-season can't grip the ground and your car is sliding right into the car or pole or whatever is in front of you.
@@timtresch4848 true. But they would never do that. Also they didnt need to develop awd for the challenger. It uses a their (e?) class frame from fca. So they just needed to add it with the challenger body style pretty much lol
8.5 to 60 isn't too bad for such a large AWD car. I'd stop short of calling it a muscle car, I'd like to see 6 sec flat at 5k feet to consider that a valid moniker. I think the Chrysler 200 AWD would be a better bet. I had one in Prince Edward Island recently and I was quite impressed by the power. I think its a great looking car but the interior was a bit low rent in the 200. The performance comparison is more apples to oranges as PEI is pretty much at sea level and a 200 weighs a bit less... Still I think it's nice that Dodge released this car, hopefully this will push GM to release an AWD Camaro. Not holding my breath though...
I've known for a while now that the "Challenger GT" was available with AWD. Until I watched this video, however, I was assuming that "GT" meant V8. For anyone who lives in snow country, AWD makes a LOT more sense than rear-wheel-drive and, in my not-so-humble opinion, anything that can do 0-60 in 9 seconds is plenty fast enough for anyone in his right mind. For me personally, I'd rather spend my millions (that I don't have) on vehicles with more ground clearance but for people who never drive off of paved roads, the price of this puppy might be worth it based on looks alone. Comfort and a useful trunk is icing on the cake.
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
Great idea for sure. Challenger GT would kick the shit out of a HellCat in December in Wisconsin. Not every one wants or need's a V8. You could really use this car as a car in the real world. Even more so if you cant have a second car.
In the real world, ive driven RWD cars in snow for years and years just get winter tires Ive drive AWD with all-seasons in snow and RWD with winter tires in snow, the RWD with the proper tire feels a lot more secure, your not sliding around as much when your breaking because your car doesn't skid because its cant grip on the ice/snow, you have more control turning with the proper tire set up its not even close just get winter tires, for anyone out there stop spending money on drive train options you don't need, get a proper tire set up thats actually safer and properly grips your car in winter weather. Plus the material the tires are made with are more appropriate and grip better in cold weather, stop being lazy AWD won't do s*** when you hit your brakes in snow/ice and the shitty all-season can't grip the ground and your car is sliding right into the car or pole or whatever is in front of you.
@@timtresch4848 Real world I live in Wisconsin, I drive a mercury grand marquis. And yes you make all valid points. I have all so had many two wheel drive F150's. They are a lot of fun in the snow but all so have there limitations. And if some one wants AWD thats cool. This car would be Fun and great in snow never the less.
@@michaelmeyer1384 if your consistently going to be going through huge accumulations of feet of snow then yes you might need an AWD/4x4 capable vehicle but that vehicle is not going to be a freaking two door V6 Challenger with a front defuser with the same ground clearance as a civic. At that point yes you actually need a big boy machine like a proper off-roader or truck.
as someone who generally doesnt care about the standard car must have like manual or if its got a v8 in a "muscle car". i like the looks the challenger and if you twin turbo this motor with some wider tires. it could be a screamer, if you have the money. or dont care about gas mileage. wonder how many people car people just had a heart attack as i typed this.
The GT was designed to target people living in snowy areas that want a sporty car but are not secure in snow. So that's where Challenger comes in and was not intended to be a muscle car. Any vehicle absent of a V8 engine cannot qualify as a muscle car and no one knows that better than Mopar, and Mopar does V8 better than anyone period. This guy does not know what he's talking about, Challengers interior was completely redesigned in '14. >direct connection
AZ Independent SRT in motor trend it said in the early days insurance companies called any car with 300 hp a muscle car of course back then no v6 was pushing that much power I think it’s time to give some of these v6s some credit
True... The Challenger GT is more like a Audi or a Mercedes AWD, but with a Badass look. It's not really a muscle car. It's a crazy fun all days car...
ive driven RWD cars in snow for years and years just get winter tires Ive drive AWD with all-seasons in snow and RWD with winter tires in snow, the RWD with the proper tire feels a lot more secure, your not slidding around as much when your breaking because your car doesn't skid because its cant grip on the ice/snow, you have more control turning with the proper tire set up its not even close just get winter tires, for anyone out there stop spending money on drive train options you don't need, get a proper tire set up thats actually safer and properly grips your car in winter weather. Plus the material the tires are made with are more appropriate and grip better in cold weather, stop being lazy AWD won't do s*** when you hit your brakes in snow/ice and the shitty all-season can't grip the ground and your car is sliding right into the car or pole or whatever is in front of you.
Yeah I hate my rims, but everything else about it is amazing! Especially since i swapped out my exhaust! no one can tell me I dont have a muscle car lol its sounds MEAN!
its a functional car but looks badass, as someone from Massachusetts this is something I thank dodge for doing, but yes it needs a little more muscle. That being said if you want something more muscle get a toy if you want the right amount of balance between function, power, and overall looks this is a great car in my opinion. They really formed the northern car here I would want to drive it in the snow myself and be able to control when the all-wheel drive comes on not have it done for me by a computer.
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
The Camry V6 goes from 0 to 60 in around 6.Something seconds which is still laughable considering the Camry is a family sedan compared to this "Muscle Car"
Those Challengers are Heavy, Without the Torque of a V8 or a Power adder to the V6 they are not that quick of the line. Still take it over a Camry for the same price though.
I felt like you were trying to give credit where credit wasn't due. Good review, however this car doesn't make any sense to me especially at that price point. For 39 thousand you could have a wrx or an evo10 with a manual and have allot more fun. And this is coming from someone who has a v6 Camaro...
Funny how touchy people are about the challenger!! The challenger is not supposed to be a practical car it's for fun so who cares what the fuel mileage is!!! It's supposed to be bad ass,fun,fast!! I'm just talking about the challenger in general not just this V6 AWD.
really need a RT 5.7 or higher for the challenger to be quick. the car is too heavy for the v6 to be fast. the camaro v6 on the other hand at around 3400 lbs and 30 more horsepower than this v6, is very fast for a v6. 0 to 60 in under 5.3 seconds.
james loehr I had a v6 Camaro with six speed manual and let me tell you the Challenger sxt plus v6 with 8 speed automatic tourqe flight trans is world's better. I mean night and day. In my opinion.
I like all these people talking shit, yet they cant even afford the V6. Enjoy the car and appreciate it. Instead everyone wants to compare it to the V8. Modern day V6's have more horsepower than the older V8's. Cant afford it? Dont talk shit.
launch control on a somewhat underpowered AWD naturally aspirated V6 car?? what difference would launch control make on that car? Anyway, I'm sure it's a fine car for someone who likes the way it looks and wants an awd commuter car. But don't call it a muscle car. An average FOUR door awd V6 car is as fast or faster.
I would say the charger is more of a direct competitor to the mustang and camaro, this is just a brick with wheels. A very slow brick... Fast has to be in the 5 second range, mustang does it, camaro does it, hell a basic 3 series does it. At 8.25 its about as fast as an accord.
Yes but can it still do that a mile above sea level? I imagine at altitude the coupe runs around a 7.5-7.8, which is still faster but close enough for the comparison.
ok im a fan of the challenger but why make a GT with the same BHP of a SXT. i think they should have came with a 335 BHP and around 300 FPT. and also why get a GT when a few grand more you can get a RT
@@brianbuchert6382 ive driven RWD cars in snow for years and years just get winter tires Ive drive AWD with all-seasons in snow and RWD with winter tires in snow, the RWD with the proper tire feels a lot more secure, your not slidding around as much when your breaking because your car doesn't skid because its cant grip on the ice/snow, you have more control turning with the proper tire set up its not even close just get winter tires, for anyone out there stop spending money on drive train options you don't need, get a proper tire set up thats actually safer and properly grips your car in winter weather. Plus the material the tires are made with are more appropriate and grip better in cold weather, stop being lazy AWD won't do s*** when you hit your brakes in snow/ice and the shitty all-season can't grip the ground and your car is sliding right into the car or pole or whatever is in front of you.
I bought this car a month ago and I really like it. I did 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. I know it's no HEMI or Hellcat but it is the car I can afford in Michigan. It snowed here this week and it was fun hitting the gas in the turns with control. I averaged 27 mpg when out of "sport" mode (20% city, 80% Hwy). It sound ok when you hit the gas. Bottom line for me is it's MY Challenger.
Oh? what does your Civic do?
I forgot. Try it in snow conditions. You will be in the ditch
I live in NY and the winter was brutal this year, a snowstorm every week. I'm seriously considering this car, combination of the aesthetic I like with the functionality I actually need.
You are no match for my infinity g37x
Facts fastest I got was 6.0 I installed a pedal commander and borla atak and a K&n Cai best car i ever had
When they announced this, I was definitely in the camp of "A V6 AWD is not a muscle car." Eventually, I realized this is the perfect car for me. I don't live my life a quarter mile at a time, and I live in the midwest, where we'll have summer and winter - sometimes in the same week. Do I miss the V8 rumble? Definitely. But this gets better mileage, and the AWD in winter is amazing. The trunk is ginormous. It's a fantastic highway cruiser. It's a gorgeous, timeless design. Manual transmissions are vastly overrated, especially in a daily driver, and after 15 years of DD'ing a manual I don't miss it. I've hit 6 seconds flat (according to the dash timer), which is plenty fast. Don't sleep on the GT simply because of the specs. It is damn near a perfect cruiser.
Its refreshing to see an intelligent review 👍
I definitely will get this as my next car! Can't wait!
As someone looking for a first car that looks sporty and gets good gas mileage, this seems like a great option for me
This is a great blend of a sporty looking and performing vehicle that seats more than 2 occupants comfortably, gets decent mpg's, has a trunk area that accommodates more than a suitcase or set of golf clubs , AND can be used safely and efficiently in all types of weather and road surfaces.
You are right. I've been through your stage in life--where you think you need to wear your perceived manliness on the outside, through a vehicle, etc. When you grow up, you'll realize that doesn't get it.
I'm pretty confident most of the viewers on this page would consider you at 50 an "old fart" too.
.......or off grass, in general.
Sounds like the description of a Camry. Except the Camry the Camry is faster. smh
I wouldn't know what a Camry's like, but apparently you do.
GT = Granturismo, which means a road car meant to be driven in all types of weather.. I think this qualifies. You want this in Muscle Car from, buy an R/T, Scat Pak or a Hell Cat. And it's a 2 or 3 season car at best...
2 or 3 season car if you are an idiot. You V6 dodge guys are really trying hard to sound cool
@@M_773 🤣🤣🤣💀
My dream of driving a Challenger here in Canada during the winter has just come true
Acezoi I feel you brother
I always loved the classic, retro look of the challenger-and I wanted one for day to day use as my only car. I’m not into racing or doing burnouts either. I live in the northeast where we get snow and ice so the AWD challenger was a no brainer for me. It’s not going to win any races, but this beast got up my steep neighborhood hill in blizzard without any problems. Also a fantastic highway cruiser in the spring and summer months. A true muscle car? No. An awesome year round sports car? Absolutely!
well, its my type of car. I love the way the challenger look and that's it. There is absolutely no need of HEMI for me since i'm not a drag racer. AWD is kinda necessary in WA. So why the hell not?
If you want to smoke a 5.7 hemi then you can supercharge your v6
First, this is a Grand Touring option for the pony car class. Second, the muscle car references and hate because of the lack of a mighty V8 are practically hilarious. How many muscle cars through the years produced less than 300HP? Answer....LOTS..... The Camaro has had SS and Z models producing sub 300 HP numbers from the 1st generation on. Hell the early 80s Z28 came standard with a whopping 145HP and yes that was a 5.0l V8....lol. The list goes on and on. Sure, today's V8s are powerful, but so is the 3.6l that's in this. It performs as it should, comfortably without the risk of wrapping it around a tree or pole everytime you punch it.
@@ripshift93 do you own one? I do. It's none of those things. It's legitimately fun to drive.
This entire comment section is "pretty sure my car can beat this" nonsense. Personally I don't give two shits about those comments. If I wanted to hear about that car, I would've looked it up. I'm here to hear about the Challenger. I have questions, Nathan. While driving this car, did you like it? Would you recommend it for someone looking to get something sporty that still handles bad weather well? How's the visibility? Are the blind spots a killer? Can you change lanes in it on a crowded highway with ease, or is it hard to spot traffic coming up from the back right side? These are things that I want to know as someone looking into this car. It really is a beautiful car, and I'd hate to smack it up because I couldn't see the guy in the next lane
Sorry...I'm late to this party, I know. But I just gotta point out something here: Notice the reviewer is doing his review in Colorado. Altitude---and the accompanying decrease in oxygen content---plays a real factor here. Boulder is about parallel with Denver in terms of altitude, maybe a little higher because it's right up against the Front Range. This means that an engine making 305 hp at sea level---is not making that much up here. (For reference, Denver sits at 5280 feet. Boulder's probably up around 6000' or more.)
I have 2018 Challenger GT.
The passenger and driver side windows are nice and large, increasing visibility in that aspect.
The front windshield is pretty tight in height, but, I imagine its a sports car thing. I find myself rarely using the sun visor and I drive toward sunset almost every day.
The rear pillars that hold the roof, block a good amount of visibility, but I have gotten used to it.
Since the rear end with spoiler is fairly high up, I don't get blinded by the headlights of cars behind me.
I have the "Driver convenience group" package, which adds a bind spot detection system. If you are driving, the system has arrows on the mirrors that will light up when someone is in your blind spot.
When in reverse, the vehicle will yell at you if there is movement behind you, or you are getting too close to something. I was puling out of my driveway and the car was able to detect an oncoming car, across the street, several houses down.
Of course, I don't just rely on the blind spot system, but, its definitely a nice feature to have.
Never had a chance to drive the AWD, but I drove a RWD Challenger SXT in the snow once. It is practically the same car, with the same engine. I was surprised at how well the RWD handled in the snow, so I can confidently say that AWD would be extremely safe to drive in the snow.
About the visibility... The front windshield and the windows combine to make a somewhat cockpit style setup, so the visibility is wonderful. The rear windshield is a little cramped, but the rearview mirror in the center is extremely large so it doesn't really affect visibility. The blind spots aren't really bad if your mirrors are adjusted, and I'm sure they all come with blind spot monitors. What I really loved was that the central rearview mirror is so broad that you can usually see a broader frame in the lane behind you, so it is easier to spot vehicles that might be moving into your blind spots. Highway driving is a breeze. It handles much better than you would expect from a car this heavy. I'd suggest getting a test drive. Enterprise usually has them in their lot.
I bought a 2018 GT. Blacktop. I average 28.5 MPG on a daily commute of 140 miles. The only time it "scared me" was when I saw red / blue, stomped the brakes, and THEN realized I was on ice.....is what it is. I love it for the "plant" on the road, the ride comfort, the awesome 506 watt Alpine, the Alacantra Leather (upcharge since 2019) heated / ventilated seats, and the additional 'free options" like performance gauges / sport pack etc. This car has been great. Especially the previous "red / blue" incident....it was taking care of ME without me even realizing it. And no - I'm not a millennial- I drove in Michigan winters with 2wd (RWD) for MANY (20) years - it just took away some of the Michigan winter conditions without any undue strain on my driving ability. I'm 56 and don't want to be sideways......all in all- this car is great!
I love how all the people who are commenting about that its "slow" have no actual clue of how quick of a car it is, or they must be ferrari owners. In real life driving, this is a very quick car. With our speed limits and police on every corner, why would you need even more power?
Genadiy Ivken why do you need more money in life? Why do we eat 50$ steaks? People will always want more, and a v6 isn't going to it it for most. If it was turbocharged or supercharged I can see that but right now dodge is selling a awd Impala. Shit I bet my brothers v6 impala would beat it
Matt LongBall Who cares? Public road is not a race track.
Genadiy Ivken it is if you're not a wuss
I have the 2018 with 305 horsies. I can't even press the gas pedal on the highway without accidentally doing 80.
I own a GT, and my bro owns the scat pack. Naturally he did leave me behind, but I gave him a run for his money. It's no slouch, trust me.
8.25? You in the Rockies? Im getting a steady 6.3 in this tank.
Love the Hellcat, of course, and any other V8-equipped Challenger, but honestly 300 hp in the V6 would be just fine with me. AWD here in our Chicago winters would be fantastic. The only thing I'd cringe a bit about the Challenger GT with V6 and hood scoops and vivid paint is that so many other people would expect so much more from a Challenger, just based on its reputation, that it would suck to say "Um, mine only has the V6." lol
Just stick a ripps supercharger to it. 450 rwd with awd would be a blast.
rwd with awd?
1999Dorito He means that's the power to wheels the kit is making.
lmao except ripp is a rip off and you'll probably blow the thing. they have been delaying for so many months now its ridiculous. better off with a hemi. especially for the cost of this vs the same car with a hemi is exactly the same
Just get the HEMI instead... no one really needs AWD unless you frequently drive in packed snow. And it makes people drive like idiots.
Thedustyaman is right. And no you don't need to upgrade internals. I own a RIPP in my grand cherokee with a pentastar.. even with the drivetrain loss I'm still around 400 whp. The charger obviously isn't 4wd so yes it will put down around 430 to the wheels pretty reliably. The pentastars a pretty strong engine and has proven to take boost better than the v8s on stock internals. Wouldn't push anymore than 10 psi though.
I drive my GT here in Germany.. ans yes, I drive faster than most of you just going to the supermarket. It's just fact.... servus!
you also get to meet more "visitors" in your control thanks to murkle.
they need an awd V8 charger and even a challenger
mopar man57
I agree BUT you can't fit the v8 with the huge 8speed transmission
Rocco Seals and it got discontinued due to low sales. The only people who bought them weren't even people, it was airport rental fleets and law enforcement agencies. It didn't sell enough in the market for Dodge to justify keep making the car so they axed it. Makes sense from a business standpoint. Why keep a product around if it's not going to make you money?
GameBoyKolor I liked it because im from Michigan, and you know its a good place for awd
mopar man57 they used to have that. but the sales team discontinued when they noticed the v6 awd sold more then the v8 awd
dodge probably put that shit car out there so we can turn away from them because of that disappointed block of plastic so when the demon is out people are amazed and get a Dodge
One thing many fail to realize is that back when the original challenger,mustang,camaro,etc came out they not only had v8's but also inline 6's which made far less power and got less mileage than the new v6's do so there's truly nothing wrong with a v6 in any of these cars.
I've hit 5.5 0-60 in mine.....launch control.
Why is there always people saying dumb things like get a RT... I remember in the 70s a muscle car would go 0-60 in 5.8 -6.5 you had a badass fast car. This car is a v6 and could challenge those 70s muscle cars time. Drive what you like and need, at the end if the day it's still a dodge.
and it weighs half a ton more (showing that its got better utilization of power) .. and gets 10-15 mpg better fuel efficiency...
Just bought a 2018 yesterday...brand new, still on the lot.
v6 and awd is no longer a muscle car.....it's a daily driver. Though you can do some muffler modification and make it sound better and more like a v8 though. Personally I love it and can't wait to get one.
Hopefully people who own this car don’t give a shite what anyone else thinks about their ride. Love the one you’re with, baby.
Love the one you’re with.
I've only driven one challenger. It was a v6(3.6). It was wet and cold out. The tires were old and hard. All it wanted to do was break loose. AWD seems the obvious answer. Used they're under 25k all day.
i think Dodge designed it to be that quiet.. i mean it's a daily driver that looks badass! as far as sound goes, that's why there's the Borla S and Atak exhaust systems. i pick mine up in 2 weeks, Frostbite w/BlkTop pkg, stripe, SXT.
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I don't consider the V6 to be a muscle car engine. It's basically a trim level for people who like the look of the muscle car, but don't care about performance. That's just my thoughts on that.
I pulled mine into my friends driveway, which is a wet muddy mess, to play with the AWD.
With only RWD engaged I tried to gently drive. The rear just ended up sliding like 2 feet sideways. 2 seconds later the AWD kicks in and I'm off, like there was never an issue.
Most people who drive challengers don't go playing in the mud, but, sometimes you just have to :)
why couldn't dodge put a 283 V8 or a 260 V8 in it.
The reason it’s so quiet is there’s a noise suppression unit under the hood
Just got one the other day and I love it!
I LOVE MINE!!!!! dedicated my channel to it! its amazing! best purchase I ever made! Cant stop looking for different mods to do
I just bought a 2017 GT in Green GO with 58k miles for $27k . I could have bought the hemi 6 speed in same color with 20k miles for another $5K but the GT is more practical and mine was loaded with $6200 in options. I pick it up his Friday. Pretty sure I'll love it .The AWD is really helpful when the roads flood which is more common than snow in my area.
Why don't people understand this car is for that person that wants a challenger but don't want to worry about getting stuck in the snow? it's some people that want the challenger for the looks and not the power
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
1 Mile above sea level means 1-1.5 seconds slower than normal. This means if he was at sea level, you could expect 6.25-6.75 seconds 0-60
I'm still confused as to which market this is for. Not only is it a v6-which is fine since 6's are good nowadays-but awd. Is it necessary? With the v6 and original weight does it actually make a difference? And if people wanted to drive it in the winter, wouldn't it be more cost effective to just buy the appropriate tires?
BFMV409 people will never understand that and Dodge is capitalizing on that. tbh if they made a v8 version I would have considered it, but currently I drive the scat pack with winter tires in the Canadian winter and never had a problem yet
You say that, but I doubt you would. AWD Scat Pack sounds great, until you realize how heavy and fuel inefficient that would be. The Scat Pack barely gets by without a gas guzzler tax, and add the weight and extra friction of AWD (assuming it could even fit in the front, as the engine is so big), and you'd have a massive boat anchor of a car. The V6, being smaller and lighter, likely makes it the weight of the V8 with still a little bit higher fuel efficiency than the V8, which is good above the snow belt.
DumbDuck44 v8 awd rnt a new concept in the automotive world, just look at some of the German coupes, but I know what u mean... this generation definitely can't support a v8 awd.. hopefully the weight-loss tricks they learn from the demon can be implemented on the next generation challenger.
Think they said when asked this that they sell more Challenger v6 models than any other challenger so they thought it would appeal to the biggest market they could. Lets just hope they sell a lot because this front drive train came out of the v8 cop car so it can certainly handle a v8 as it already does... then we are talking real potential
The WRX has its own problems though, and need to address the very poor NVH, inside materials quality, and improve the fuel economy of the STI version as they run so rich its a gas guzzler. The Dodge is heavy, but on the plus side I have to say they have a really great Uconnect infotainment system (probably the best in the industry right now), decent quality soft touch materials everywhere it counts, and plenty of sound insulation so you get engine noise but not a lot of squeaks and rattles and wind noise like you do in WRXs right now.
2022, Bought this 2017 car 2 weeks ago. Only had 37k and dude traded in to same dealership he bought from. Is IMMACULATE. Not a single scratch; So safe in bad weather. Large size scared me at 1st.
Paid 29k. Hope I got a good deal; BUT I LOVE THIS CAR!
I own a 2015 sxt plus! Dope interior. The hemi's are awesome but unless your just trying to flex waste of money!!! SXT ALL DAY
What does 8.25 translates to when not at a mile above sea level?
Stevorn Richards probably around 7.25 to 7.50
+Stevorn Richards 7.2
The Fast Lane Car that's like an altima v6... Not bad
Stevorn Richards LOL thats what my 4 cyl altima gets)
Genadly Ivken In 1993 a stock Toyota Supra 0 to 60 was 5 seconds flat with a 3 L engine lol
A Cold Air Intake would add a nice Intake roar, plus a little more power!
Imagine an AWD Hellcat Charger or Challenger…🤯
Hey I'm in Boulder too and own one of these cars! An aftermarket exhaust makes a huge difference and it's an amazing year round daily for the colder states. That being said, it's only a true grand touring car, not a muscle car. Throw a blower on the pentastar and it gets pretty fun though.
Well back in the 70s didn't the base Challenger come with the slant 6 and if so I know it didn't have the power that is car gets? Plus did the 318V8 Challenger have 305 HP from the factory? I'll have to look it up, but 305 HP is still pretty good. The Mustang still offers a 4 banger, I know it's bosted but still a 4 banger. Anyways if I was going to buy a challenger, I would buy this car because for every day driver all I would need is a V6 because I wouldn't be racing anyone or taking it to the track, so if it had anymore power it would just be a waste.
305hp in the modern world is much more than the gross ratings in 1970. The 426 Hemi when tested net HP was about 360, the LS6 454 of 1970 put down 288 to the wheels which meant about 350 net in today's ratings (GM called it 450hp). That would be even less with all the accessories of modern motors like 140+amp alternators and air conditioning. This 305hp Challenger probably makes more power than anything short of a 440 or 426 of 1970. Not great but not bad. www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2013/08/13/Horsepower
I test drove an 2017 Challenger R/T. And I think it's cool but I just didn't like it. It felt like I was in a pickup truck it rode so high, and it felt like more of a heavy cruiser than a sports car. Good daily driver though.
It needs a Hemi. At least the 5.7.
Lin Hunnicutt no its need 707 hp
It would be too expensive and no one would buy it. It's overpriced as is
Lin Hunnicutt The Hemi versions are reserved for law enforcement.
If you pay MSRP. Dodge customers are used to the overpriced sticker so you think you are getting a deal, deal. Buy a Toyota, and you're almost always paying over invoice at minimum. I bought a Scat Pack though with an MSRP of $46K for $39K out the door after taxes (6.25%) and rebates and everything. I've seen discounts on Dodge Ram's of $10K+. So remember to compare true street prices, as that can make a huge difference, at least it did for me.
Lin Hunnicutt I agree
When do the yellow LED rings turn on and when do the white ones turn on?
Great review Nathan!
They would sell a shit ton of these AWDs if they came with a 5.7 hemi and a 6 speed stick. They will make that an available option within a couple model years.
Nick Mahonski better be when i can afford it.
Nick Mahonski yet 2 years later and they haven’t. Lzzzzzzzz
The 3.6 Pentastar sounds so weezy, like the engine sounds out of breath all the time.
My wife had a 2012 300 and it sounded like a baby v8 inside the car.
jmc6000 can't go wrong with a pentastar v6.
Does the big trunk have a spare?
Their AWD could not handle the 5.7 L that is why it's no longer available after 2015
I get 8.7 in my stock 2.7 charger... you messed up somewhere if it took you that long to get to 60.
I've never understood why Chrysler hasn't offered a tweaked version of the Pentastar engine. A HP V6 could work very nicely and could enable them to offer GT packages in many of their offerings.
No offense but i hit 6.0 flat with the Gt challenger I was very upset when u showed the 8. Sumthing cuz you don’t know how to Launch it
Facts man
you said muscle cars these days can last 100,000 miles or more like that was impressive. if I had a vehicle that didnt last 100,000 miles or more I would be pissed.
You apparently haven't been driving all that long. When the original "muscle cars" hit the streets in the mid 60s their owners had a tendency to thrash them mercilessly. Consequently, the cars that weren't demolished had their engines worn out not long after the short warranty period was past.
In my opinion, the GT should only come in AWD and be offered in Northern or more cool environments. If you live in Tropical climate, the SXT blacktop makes more financial sense unless the GT gets heavily discounted.
the next gen should have a 4.2 v8 for the base engine, then it has a v8 then its a muscle car
That cars too heavy for a sporty V6 option. Stick to the Hemi's, I know many people would be interested in a V8 AWD option regardless of weight.
As a fan of the Challenger in Utah, where we often have nasty winters, I really wish they had an R/T Scat Pack with AWD. The V8 Hemi is just so much more appealing. Otherwise I would have to get expensive snow tires and even then it wouldn't be as good as the AWD.
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
I think the biggest use case for this is for people who live in areas with snow bit still want to drive it all year round. I really don't think this is a "performance" car as the Challenger would advertise but it's a neat daily driver I guess.
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
$39k? sorry, I'd get a wrx/sti if I was basing it off awd and coolness factor. yes this is far more comfortable, but you can't beat a Subaru awd system
Mythiic If I were going to drop $39k on a muscle car, I'd rather get a loaded up Mustang GT or Camaro SS, hands down. You don't get a muscle car because it's good in snow. That's what a winter beater is for.
Jordan Pence I'm aware. but he seemed to be using 'coolness' and awd as his criteria. if that's the case, a sedan with a giant wing always wins. if you want a 'muscle car' no doubt the Camaro is better
Mythiic but in this you won't look as gay as you would in a subaru
No, you'd just look like you bought a boat that has wheels and then be harassed by literally everyone because your muscle car has a V6
true, i drive brand new chargers and challengers everyday lol, the v6's are slow. I got beat by a accord v6. But coolness is what the charger and challenger stand for hahah. They are fuking aggresive looking cars. The v6's are not made for racing or driving fast they are literally made for people who commute everyday and want to drive something cool looking and fuel efficient. Dont compare a bland fucking subaru to these cars lollll. I have pretty much driven everything and subies are pureshit except thier awd system. STI looks like a boxed toyota with a wing and the interiors are ugly af!!!!!
Can it have thr yellow drl?
I got a question
Loaded GT AWD or base Scat Pack 6.4L or Loaded R/T plus?
Mike Perez v8 all the way
Depends kn where you live/what driving conditions. If you dont really need to worry about bad weather then get a rt/rt scat. If you have to drive in bad weather go for the GT. If you just want a good v8 go for the rt. If your performance hungry, get the scat
@@dannygallagher9290 Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
get the v8 and get snow tires, ive driven RWD cars in snow for years and years just get winter tires Ive drive AWD with all-seasons in snow and RWD with winter tires in snow, the RWD with the proper tire feels a lot more secure, your not slidding around as much when your breaking because your car doesn't skid because its cant grip on the ice/snow, you have more control turning with the proper tire set up its not even close just get winter tires, for anyone out there stop spending money on drive train options you don't need, get a proper tire set up thats actually safer and properly grips your car in winter weather. Plus the material the tires are made with are more appropriate and grip better in cold weather, stop being lazy AWD won't do s*** when you hit your brakes in snow/ice and the shitty all-season can't grip the ground and your car is sliding right into the car or pole or whatever is in front of you.
@@timtresch4848 true. But they would never do that. Also they didnt need to develop awd for the challenger. It uses a their (e?) class frame from fca. So they just needed to add it with the challenger body style pretty much lol
can you review the 6.4l? so we can compare the differences?
My 2016 challenger stx will do 0-60 in 6 seconds thats weird
dannygtz320 they did this 1 mole above sea level for some reason
Interestingly enough this engine noise reminds me alot of the F-150s, probably because they are both V6s.
Can't wait to see someone supercharge it
8.5 to 60 isn't too bad for such a large AWD car. I'd stop short of calling it a muscle car, I'd like to see 6 sec flat at 5k feet to consider that a valid moniker. I think the Chrysler 200 AWD would be a better bet. I had one in Prince Edward Island recently and I was quite impressed by the power. I think its a great looking car but the interior was a bit low rent in the 200. The performance comparison is more apples to oranges as PEI is pretty much at sea level and a 200 weighs a bit less... Still I think it's nice that Dodge released this car, hopefully this will push GM to release an AWD Camaro. Not holding my breath though...
I've known for a while now that the "Challenger GT" was available with AWD. Until I watched this video, however, I was assuming that "GT" meant V8.
For anyone who lives in snow country, AWD makes a LOT more sense than rear-wheel-drive and, in my not-so-humble opinion, anything that can do 0-60 in 9 seconds is plenty fast enough for anyone in his right mind.
For me personally, I'd rather spend my millions (that I don't have) on vehicles with more ground clearance but for people who never drive off of paved roads, the price of this puppy might be worth it based on looks alone. Comfort and a useful trunk is icing on the cake.
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
Great idea for sure. Challenger GT would kick the shit out of a HellCat in December in Wisconsin. Not every one wants or need's a V8. You could really use this car as a car in the real world. Even more so if you cant have a second car.
In the real world, ive driven RWD cars in snow for years and years just get winter tires Ive drive AWD with all-seasons in snow and RWD with winter tires in snow, the RWD with the proper tire feels a lot more secure, your not sliding around as much when your breaking because your car doesn't skid because its cant grip on the ice/snow, you have more control turning with the proper tire set up its not even close just get winter tires, for anyone out there stop spending money on drive train options you don't need, get a proper tire set up thats actually safer and properly grips your car in winter weather. Plus the material the tires are made with are more appropriate and grip better in cold weather, stop being lazy AWD won't do s*** when you hit your brakes in snow/ice and the shitty all-season can't grip the ground and your car is sliding right into the car or pole or whatever is in front of you.
@@timtresch4848 Real world I live in Wisconsin, I drive a mercury grand marquis. And yes you make all valid points. I have all so had many two wheel drive F150's. They are a lot of fun in the snow but all so have there limitations. And if some one wants AWD thats cool. This car would be Fun and great in snow never the less.
@@michaelmeyer1384 if your consistently going to be going through huge accumulations of feet of snow then yes you might need an AWD/4x4 capable vehicle but that vehicle is not going to be a freaking two door V6 Challenger with a front defuser with the same ground clearance as a civic. At that point yes you actually need a big boy machine like a proper off-roader or truck.
@@timtresch4848 lol
as someone who generally doesnt care about the standard car must have like manual or if its got a v8 in a "muscle car". i like the looks the challenger and if you twin turbo this motor with some wider tires. it could be a screamer, if you have the money. or dont care about gas mileage. wonder how many people car people just had a heart attack as i typed this.
When they put the hellcat motor in that all wheel drive I'll call a super musclecar
The GT was designed to target people living in snowy areas that want a sporty car but are not secure in snow. So that's where Challenger comes in and was not intended to be a muscle car. Any vehicle absent of a V8 engine cannot qualify as a muscle car and no one knows that better than Mopar, and Mopar does V8 better than anyone period. This guy does not know what he's talking about, Challengers interior was completely redesigned in '14. >direct connection
AZ Independent SRT in motor trend it said in the early days insurance companies called any car with 300 hp a muscle car of course back then no v6 was pushing that much power I think it’s time to give some of these v6s some credit
True... The Challenger GT is more like a Audi or a Mercedes AWD, but with a Badass look. It's not really a muscle car. It's a crazy fun all days car...
ive driven RWD cars in snow for years and years just get winter tires Ive drive AWD with all-seasons in snow and RWD with winter tires in snow, the RWD with the proper tire feels a lot more secure, your not slidding around as much when your breaking because your car doesn't skid because its cant grip on the ice/snow, you have more control turning with the proper tire set up its not even close just get winter tires, for anyone out there stop spending money on drive train options you don't need, get a proper tire set up thats actually safer and properly grips your car in winter weather. Plus the material the tires are made with are more appropriate and grip better in cold weather, stop being lazy AWD won't do s*** when you hit your brakes in snow/ice and the shitty all-season can't grip the ground and your car is sliding right into the car or pole or whatever is in front of you.
how TF is this not a muscle car
I’m a dodge fan, challenger is my dream car.. but I just don’t dig those rims on the gt...
Yeah I hate my rims, but everything else about it is amazing! Especially since i swapped out my exhaust! no one can tell me I dont have a muscle car lol its sounds MEAN!
Hmm. The 485hp scat pack with the auto is rated at 15/25 mpg. Yeah, I want that one.
Dodge could've at least added the 5.7 hemi
or you could just the 5.7 hemi they have for it. Its called the RT.
Jim Morales 😂😂😂
its a functional car but looks badass, as someone from Massachusetts this is something I thank dodge for doing, but yes it needs a little more muscle. That being said if you want something more muscle get a toy if you want the right amount of balance between function, power, and overall looks this is a great car in my opinion. They really formed the northern car here I would want to drive it in the snow myself and be able to control when the all-wheel drive comes on not have it done for me by a computer.
Thats cool and all but really then they should just ship the car with a free set of winter tires, since RWD with winter tires is a lot better then AWD with all-seasons which really just suck in all situations versus dedicated winter/summer tires but people would rather spends 1000's of dollars on AWD instead of taking an hour twice a year to swap tires. Use all-seasons in summer all you want but AWD does not stop your car from sliding on ice/snow, it helps you accelerate but as far actually safety its pretty useless. Far cheaper for Dodge to give every Challenger owner a set of winters then they spent developing getting this AWD system into the Challenger.
8:25 0-60 is horrible for a muscle car. A V-6 Camry is faster than that smh🙄
Well if u adjust it for not being a mile above see level it's 0-60 time is about 7.2
Colby Jaffy 6.5 actually
The Camry V6 goes from 0 to 60 in around 6.Something seconds which is still laughable considering the Camry is a family sedan compared to this "Muscle Car"
Camry isn't faster at high altitude,its slower...8 seconds 0-60 at high altitude !
Those Challengers are Heavy, Without the Torque of a V8 or a Power adder to the V6 they are not that quick of the line. Still take it over a Camry for the same price though.
Seems like a super fun car for the snow in Colorado! Take that subaru!
if it isn't rear wheel drive it's no longer a muscle car.
Devyn Brady that’s your opinion only it’s rear wheel 90% of the time like the man said unless it’s very cold or wet out
Nobody say the Challenger GT is a muscle car. It's a just perfect, very good looking car for daily use in Canada and north USA...
wow... even at a mile above sea level. I'm sorry but they should have strapped a small turbo on the v6 model or only offered the 8 cylinder
I felt like you were trying to give credit where credit wasn't due. Good review, however this car doesn't make any sense to me especially at that price point. For 39 thousand you could have a wrx or an evo10 with a manual and have allot more fun. And this is coming from someone who has a v6 Camaro...
Wow I got a 6 second flat 0-60 time in 35 degree weather in the GT. These guys are just hecka bad at launching it lol
in economy mode... i get there in 7 without flooring the pedal.... yea.. this guy is bad
you certainly need dedicated winter tires to keep this machine straight on the road in the winter
No ya don’t. Stock all seasons are perfect. Learn how to drive.
The Charger would make much more sense to have AWD than this.
Cham Rav it already does. It's had awd for years
Yeah but I mean like the SRT/Hellcat models.
That’s not what you meant just admit you were wrong it’s been available with awd lol smh
there is an r/t awd charger last year for that was 2014 I believe they had it since like 07 or something on the charger.
they only made this because they had the platform for an awd V6 from the charger so it was very cheap to make this and make a few extra models
No that isn’t why. They were already gonna make this in the beginning. Why lie.
Funny how touchy people are about the challenger!! The challenger is not supposed to be a practical car it's for fun so who cares what the fuel mileage is!!! It's supposed to be bad ass,fun,fast!! I'm just talking about the challenger in general not just this V6 AWD.
nothing like having a Honda Odyssey showing you tail lights
justa scott if your buying a v6 awd you probably don’t care
really need a RT 5.7 or higher for the challenger to be quick. the car is too heavy for the v6 to be fast. the camaro v6 on the other hand at around 3400 lbs and 30 more horsepower than this v6, is very fast for a v6. 0 to 60 in under 5.3 seconds.
james loehr I had a v6 Camaro with six speed manual and let me tell you the Challenger sxt plus v6 with 8 speed automatic tourqe flight trans is world's better. I mean night and day. In my opinion.
I like all these people talking shit, yet they cant even afford the V6. Enjoy the car and appreciate it. Instead everyone wants to compare it to the V8. Modern day V6's have more horsepower than the older V8's. Cant afford it? Dont talk shit.
Which one sounds worse,a V6 Challenger or a EcoBoost 2.3 Mustang?🤔
id say the four cylinder camaro
launch control on a somewhat underpowered AWD naturally aspirated V6 car?? what difference would launch control make on that car? Anyway, I'm sure it's a fine car for someone who likes the way it looks and wants an awd commuter car. But don't call it a muscle car. An average FOUR door awd V6 car is as fast or faster.
I would say the charger is more of a direct competitor to the mustang and camaro, this is just a brick with wheels. A very slow brick... Fast has to be in the 5 second range, mustang does it, camaro does it, hell a basic 3 series does it. At 8.25 its about as fast as an accord.
Cobb an accord coupe can do under 7...
Yes but can it still do that a mile above sea level? I imagine at altitude the coupe runs around a 7.5-7.8, which is still faster but close enough for the comparison.
But looks way better than the camaro and stang
Hey Fast Lane Car, please don't have the audio so loud in between talking and hearing the car. I have to turn down my volume each time. Thanks!
you need to do a mashup between that and the sleeper tauras sho
This is more like a 1970s personal luxury coupe
The rental I had did 0-60 6.7 with a full tank of fuel
im in North of Québec and i have 1969 charger and mustang and when you cant drive your muscle car to décember to half of april so awd its Kinda cool
Why does he keep comparing it to a muscle car? There is a specific consumer this is targeting. If someone wants a muscle car they'll buy the V8.
I got a '18 for $31K loaded.
Random because it’s a challenger which is a muscle car.... durr durr
ok im a fan of the challenger but why make a GT with the same BHP of a SXT. i think they should have came with a 335 BHP and around 300 FPT. and also why get a GT when a few grand more you can get a RT
RKE Ghost good luck trying to find a base model RT at a dealership they are always paired with some type of package and run mid to high 30's
Plus the rt doesn’t come in awd wich is the whole point of the gt smh
@@brianbuchert6382 ive driven RWD cars in snow for years and years just get winter tires Ive drive AWD with all-seasons in snow and RWD with winter tires in snow, the RWD with the proper tire feels a lot more secure, your not slidding around as much when your breaking because your car doesn't skid because its cant grip on the ice/snow, you have more control turning with the proper tire set up its not even close just get winter tires, for anyone out there stop spending money on drive train options you don't need, get a proper tire set up thats actually safer and properly grips your car in winter weather. Plus the material the tires are made with are more appropriate and grip better in cold weather, stop being lazy AWD won't do s*** when you hit your brakes in snow/ice and the shitty all-season can't grip the ground and your car is sliding right into the car or pole or whatever is in front of you.
The words "Automatic Transmission" and ESPECIALLY "V6" simply do not go with term "Muscle car"
The United States of America plenty of 60s muscle cars had auto trans