Awesome trick! non-spherical eyes are always so tricky, I usually use lattices to deform the eye and then skin the lattice to a joint but your solution seems even more intuitive. Thanks :)
I didn't know you could skin a lattice to a joint! That's your way of keeping the lattice moving with the rig? Are you skinning both the eye to the eye joint AND the lattice to the head joint? Doesn't that give you double transforms on the eye? His method of deforming the eye by putting the eye joint in a group doesn't work when the eye joint is parented by the head joint. Scaling that group has no effect on the eye.
Nice tutorial! Especially like the pupil scaling control. I think the reason riggers resort to a lattice deformer for this instead of just grouping the joint is because the eye joint is going to be a child of the head joint. If you stick a group node between the head joint and eye joint. . scaling that group won't do anything.
Interesting! I can't test right now, but It should still work, but you'd probably need another offset group to be able to first zero out the initial group. So joint -> offset_group (hold offset transform values) -> group (the group you'd scale) -> joint
@@builtbycolossus Turns out the issue was because I was parenting the eye rig to joints with all sorts of matrix and custom nodes attached to them (mGear rig). Solved the issue by just building the eye rig separately, including the eye joint. ... and just attaching it as a child to the existing rig eye joint.
Hi Vac! Yep, there's a couple of ways. Once the mesh is skinned to some joints, you can right click on the mesh -> paint -> skincluster Or you can select the skinned mesh and click on hammer/dots symbol at the top right of your Maya screen
Heya so Ive been doing this method for about two weeks, i got it down for the most part but when moving it with the eye controls it stretches out the eyeball, i may have forgotten how to make the eye a solid figure without stretching?
Nice tutorial~ not complex method! But I got different result at 2:40. When I rotate eyeball_Jnt, I don't know why the eyeball shap can't fixed at non spheriacl, it will change the shape. I use MAYA 2024
Hi! Glad you liked the tutorial. Make sure you're scaling the rig with the offset group, not the joint itself That being said, I havent tried on Maya 2024!
Hi! At least for Unreal, I couldn't maintain the effect when exporting a single joint hierarchy (turned off the segmentScaleCompensate attribute on the skinned joint) Maybe someone else would know better.
I applied this method to Spyro's eyes 17 years ago. It's a very traditional way. 😊
Wow! Spyro. Respect!
It's quite impressive that you made this using the joint system! Always thanks for you to share useful tips!
You bet! Hope it helps you out
Awesome trick! non-spherical eyes are always so tricky, I usually use lattices to deform the eye and then skin the lattice to a joint but your solution seems even more intuitive. Thanks :)
Ah yes, I love a good lattice! One of the most versatile deformers imo
you can still deform the Offset-Group with the lattice if you want. Works also fine with that setup. 👍
I didn't know you could skin a lattice to a joint! That's your way of keeping the lattice moving with the rig? Are you skinning both the eye to the eye joint AND the lattice to the head joint? Doesn't that give you double transforms on the eye? His method of deforming the eye by putting the eye joint in a group doesn't work when the eye joint is parented by the head joint. Scaling that group has no effect on the eye.
This tutorial was really helpful! I was wondering how to copy the eye that we make, as I am unable to duplicate it or copy and paste it?
Super cool! I love your method.
Thanks!
Nice tutorial! Especially like the pupil scaling control. I think the reason riggers resort to a lattice deformer for this instead of just grouping the joint is because the eye joint is going to be a child of the head joint. If you stick a group node between the head joint and eye joint. . scaling that group won't do anything.
Interesting! I can't test right now, but It should still work, but you'd probably need another offset group to be able to first zero out the initial group.
So joint -> offset_group (hold offset transform values) -> group (the group you'd scale) -> joint
If you're using just joints, try turning off "segment scale compensate" in the attribute editor for child joints
@@builtbycolossus Turns out the issue was because I was parenting the eye rig to joints with all sorts of matrix and custom nodes attached to them (mGear rig). Solved the issue by just building the eye rig separately, including the eye joint. ... and just attaching it as a child to the existing rig eye joint.
@@TynanCreationsNice!
i am new , i really hope u explain how u open that skin cluster setting . i think this is nice video
Hi Vac!
Yep, there's a couple of ways.
Once the mesh is skinned to some joints, you can right click on the mesh -> paint -> skincluster
Or you can select the skinned mesh and click on hammer/dots symbol at the top right of your Maya screen
Heya so Ive been doing this method for about two weeks, i got it down for the most part but when moving it with the eye controls it stretches out the eyeball, i may have forgotten how to make the eye a solid figure without stretching?
super thanks bro
You bet! More tips to come
This helped so much!!!!
Nice tutorial~ not complex method!
But I got different result at 2:40. When I rotate eyeball_Jnt, I don't know why the eyeball shap can't fixed at non spheriacl, it will change the shape.
I use MAYA 2024
Hi! Glad you liked the tutorial. Make sure you're scaling the rig with the offset group, not the joint itself
That being said, I havent tried on Maya 2024!
Do you have a favorite way you rig eyeballs, spherical or not? Let me know in the comments!
Just wow.
this is good!👍👍👍
Thanks!
Is this applicable for games ?
Hi! At least for Unreal, I couldn't maintain the effect when exporting a single joint hierarchy (turned off the segmentScaleCompensate attribute on the skinned joint)
Maybe someone else would know better.
@@builtbycolossus Swimming through the parent space like this requires shear, Unreal does not support shear in its bone matrices. Unity does though.
T hanks