I bought my house and property in a lumpsum paymet at auction when the previous owner was declared bankrupt. Turned out no one from the HOA showed up at the auction, so after the deed and all the titles were officially transferred to me, I get a letter from the HOA with a contract saying I have to sign this to live there. Called up my lawyer to have it checked, turns out, no I don't have to sign that. The HOA should have come to the auction and should have bought the property if they wanted to stake a claim to it. But even now, almost 5 years later, I still get people from the HOA at the door telling me my house is in violation of rule X and my yard in violation of rule Y, and I have to get it sorted or they will do it and bill me for the privilege. I don't even bother arguing with them anymore. I just straight up tell them to get off my property and if they don't I call the cops. I bet they are going to freak out next summer when I start replacing the 30 year old bitumen on the roof with EPDM.
They think that because the house was originally in the grasp of the HOA when it was auctioned off, they still think it "technically" belongs to them even with papers saying otherwise. The HOA is just trying to pressure you into signing so they have "control" over something that they used to own so they can get money off of you...If they decide enough is enough and try to take you to court over this then they won't have a leg to stand on, sure they can say "it was originally in the HOA sphere so technically it's ours" but you have the deed and titles for it...judge might just say "Why weren't you there when you KNEW the house was being auctioned and you wanted to keep it in the HOA?" and dismiss it.
Andrew Murphy good job that couldve ending badly right ? all they want is to steal your money and tell you what to do with the properity that you own HOA is out of control everywhere with coruption
Andrew Murphy A neighborhood starting an HOA cannot force you to join it. As long as you don't pay the HOA statement and decline it you would legally be outside of HOA control. If you buy a house in an HOA community you automatically join as a condition of sale. What I learned fighting my neighborhood HOA.
Andrew Murphy my neighbor hood has a crappy hoa they can barley keep the pool running and clean not to mention like 12 or 13 yards look like crap in our neighborhood and they don't even care but at least they aren't over bearing like these hoa jerks
This is true, a bunch of your homeowners can't decide out of the blue to start one then force you to abide by their rules. That kind of Socialism is reserved for the Democrats who run the Country.
A couple years ago me sister went to a open house. While she was there a man was signing papers on a million dollar house. All of the houses are surrounded by a large tract of land. My sister asked how much land is yours when you buy the house. The lady said 1 foot around the house, the rest is owned by the HOA. The man looked up and said what. The lady went on to explain that the land was still under development and not all of the houses were built yet. Most of the houses were going to be about a driveway apart from each other, with the driveway being owned by the HOA. At that point the man turned to my sister and said thank you, while he tore up the paperwork.
yes but once established in an area isn't pretty much everyone forced to sign or move and new buyers would be forced to sign before they could even move in?
Andy V I was looking into moving to Utah to be with my girlfriend. I looked at houses to purchase and rent and ALL of them were in HOA’s... I said this to her “haha... soo every house is in an HOA... change of plans you’re coming here!” Currently she’s being stubborn, but I ain’t living in an HOA even for love!
People R. Animals I remember reading awhile ago that a guy got fined for parking HIS truck in HIS driveway because the HOA didn’t allow vehicles to be parked in driveways.... then why even have them!?
Buidalot I have a friend who lives in a community with that rule as well. They must park in the garage, which is what the driveway is for. I would never live in a community with that rule. HOA's are the worst.
People R. Animals Recently I was looking at moving to Utah to live with my girlfriend (she lives in a suburb of SLC) and all the houses listed were in HOA’s I told her nope you’re coming here instead cause I refuse to live in an HOA, not even love could make me live in one.
9753flyer fully agree, but it's hard to sympathize with the people they prey on. HOAs cost more to live in and people know the shit they pull. I can't feel for somebody dumb enough to sign a contract with one.
A swimming pool increases the value of a property, which is the goal of the HOA -to maintain and/or increase the value of the collective group of homes and to insure that one particular home does not devalue the surrounding home by poor choices of the homeowner.
Liam The shed looks nice and is maintained well though; it definitely doesn't decrease the property value. HOAs are usually full of greedy scumbags btw
Daniel Broderick yep I agree. The way the shed was maintained and the way it looks definitely didn’t decrease the value of the property. It fits the philosophy behind an HOA and therefore should be allowed.
Liam I don't want my property value higher. I bought to live and die in then leave to my kids. It's a home not an investment. Plus higher value means more taxes. What they really want is control over other folks lives.
my dad built a house on an open field out in the country. his yard was about 3 acres. 2yrs the rest of the field was turn into an hoa subdivision. he never signed on to the hoa when they moved in. they started harassing him about the size and location of his garden, parking his trailer on a extension off of his driveway he built specifically for it. then they tried fining him and evicting him. well a judge over turned the hoa's demands. well they still kept harassing him, so my dad went and bought the mineral rights to his property. he then went to the next hoa meeting and addressed the council. he told them that if they didn't stop harassing him that he would demolish his house and turn his property into a gravel pit, and reclaim the road that originally went just to his property that he still owns which the hoa stole and turned it into the main entrance to the subdivision and make it the main entrance to the pit. the hoa sued my dad over this and my dad won. the stopped bugging my dad after that. my dad then run for hoa president and won that also. he then nullified 90% of the rules and hoa are now only used to help the subdivision. the hoa board are not allowed any cut of the funds, no matter what now. 2 of the board members quit after that.
ben hawke in Texas it's against state law for any hoa board members or employees to collect any monies or salaries. Hoa positions are considered voluntary and the state made sure that it stayed that way
The elusive Bigfoot that is a *good* HOA story: I helped form an HOA several years ago, to force the land developer to fix the goddamn sewer system. It was a private system we all paid into and its maintenance was part of what we were paying for, but he preferred to keep the money for himself. So when it eventually got broken down enough to stop working properly, instead of fixing it he just pumped our sewage into the creek that ran through the neighborhood. 100 households or so, and he pumped sewage from about half of them into a designated scenic waterway without their knowledge, for months. He'd set up the equipment in the woods downstream of us to hide what he was doing, so we didn't know about it for a bit. Boy Scout troops and weekenders canoe down that creek, goddammit. We swam and boated in it all summer. And he gave zero fucks and told us we'd have to sue him to make him do anything about it. We got the state DEQ on his ass and due to the severity and duration of the violations they hit him with the largest waterway pollution fine imposed on an individual in the state's history and made him fix the shit. Pardon the pun. After that we didn't have much HOA business to attend to so we just met to have BBQs and bonfires and drink all the beers. He was also into real estate fraud, sexual harassment and assault, trespassing, multiple physical assaults (including beating his wife in public), wage theft, abusing his employees, etc... a true buffet of fuckery. A few years after the sewer incident was resolved I moved out of state, and the day he died my phone rang off the hook from old neighbors calling to make sure I heard the news, and to celebrate. Fuck that guy. His name was Lawrence Elliott and he can rot in hell, but by god we got our creek back.
I thought the point of getting your own home is to do want you want with the property. I live in an apartment right now, I can't even put a lawn chair on our private yard
BlackWorldTraveler The rules and bylaws are fine when they're working for you. When they work against you it's another story. When you get fined for your lawn not taking the approved sod, or for having a fixture that was installed prior to the HOA being brought in and you joining it, or any of the other hundreds of asinine things that HOA's create for no good reason, that's the problem.
Tim Brown Seems this is an issue for homes in subdivisions. This is new to me. The city where I live I only know of something like $30 a year per house for the pool area or something like that. One of the main reason I live in a condo is because I hate mowing and such. We have workers that do the mowing,landscape,maintenance,etc..paid for with part of our condo dues. There's an inspection before you sell and things have to be corrected at owner cost such as removing that storage unit. Actually you won't be allowed to put it there to begin with my HOA. Pretty strict condo HOA where I live which is why there are very few kids here and a waiting list. Only work against you here when you don't abide by them.
Olivia Probably because you chose to live in an apartment that does not allow lawn chairs on private yard. Actually never heard of that considering all the apartments I've seen or lived in only had only a patio or balcony area.
BlackWorldTraveler or because the land lord chose to be irrationally obsessive about chairs and thus has a broken logic that can easily be poked fun at.
Thirty years ago I was looking at homes in a new development in my town. All of the lots were one acre. I commented, "That's nice and big, I could put up a nice shed." I was told that sheds weren't permitted. That blew that development for me. Later I found out that many people got around that rule buy building "playhouses" for their kids and then using the playhouses to store lawnmowers and other such stuff.
So this guy has a shed with all his stuff put away. When you look at the google map most yards around his are brown, his is green. This guy is taking care of his property and the HOA is still giving him a hard time.
You can't do that. It would badly pollute the poor ocean. Not to mention the poor sea animals wouldn't know to avoid HOA's and would get suckered in. Instead let's drop them into the nearest volcano. Or maybe the middle of the Arctic.
Well why not? Sometimes it's worth the hassle. I live in a home run by an HOA and we have not had any problems, We have actually noticed over the year we have lived here that the HOA doesn't enforce our street at all really, And even if they did we ask the HOA for permission to park on the road for parties, Park trailers and tow trucks their all the time and they grant us permission to do so no problem.
beastm0de7 Then you have gotten lucky. I have heard more horror stories then positive things about HOAs. To me it’s playing Russian roulette. Odds I don’t care for.
And HOA is in essence a mini government. They change and make rules at Will if they like, and have the ability to take legal action that seems outrageous . Sounds just like government. And if you get some little tyrants or people that Have never had any real control, power in their entire lives and start becoming dictators, you’re screwed.
Honestly, I've never had to deal with HOA before, but from what I hear about them I would NEVER buy a house that has one, NOBODY is gonna tell me what I can or can't do with my own home that my hard earned money is paying for. One time, when I was looking for a house and I found out there was an HOA, I immediately walked out of the realtor's office. They were shocked and was begging me to come back.
Mr Anderson ikr, im not a vet and you guys deserve every bit of recognition but it just seems demeaning when they just tack it on to every little thing for some sympathy...
So "we're now working with the homeowner..." is code for "yeah we thought we could get away with it until our lawyer said no". Motion for inspection of the association records by the members...or the city council if necessary to get these shenanigans under control.
jeff Webb My family has moved a lot and never into an hoa neighborhood and not once did we ever have neighbors who leave junk cars in their front yard. If you are so worried about that happening that you would willing be told how you can control your own home then that's proof you're a fool.
Best course of action in HOA cases is for the residents to band together and vote all the current people OFF the HOA board. Then they can instill their own people in office and immediately disband the HOA!
What the fuck is the problem having a garden shed anyway? The whole point of a shed is to put away yard tools, bikes, etc, so they aren't being an eyesore. Would they rather he left that shit laying all over his yard?
Yeah I'm sure they would, so they can just give him a bigger grocery list of violations. As long as they get more money in their pockets, they don't care.
Boi how is that? HOA’s are meant to help keep you & your neighbors property values up. They will fine you the minute you have over grown weeds or trash/cigarette buds in the front yard, if you leave your trash cans out too long.. they just make sure you don’t let your house start looking like a dump. They don’t care what you do in your home, just what you do to the outside of it
So your telling me, I pay the HOA my money that I earned, so that they can tell me what i can and cannot do on my home and property. The home and property that I own, that I pay for with the money that I earn. Seems legit, where do I sign up?
What's worse is that many HOAs can change the rules any time the board decides to do so; so what was OK with the HOA when you bought your place can become a problem when some fussy retiree with time on her hands decides to make it a problem.
when i was in an HOA subdivision couple years ago, total nazies.. i have a few drones, including a mavic pro, the HOA tried to get me arrested on invasion of privacy a few times, failed miserably once they managed to get money into police's pockets they also learned the its a federal jurisdiction and they have zero control over a drone situation.. then HOA came back to me paid me to help them locate violators with my drone.. agreed to help out, all i did was document board members violations with my drones... corrupted HYPOCRITES.. not only that they tried the excuse on me and the other people that lived there that came to put in a vote fore things, that it was one like this short period of time, 3 days excusable limit, i then showed them screen shots off my ipad at the time.. that it was sustained issue for months! trash in yard wasn't even blowing away after storms, un cared for back yards, hidden sheds, wood piles, rusted parts, and shit under back decks.. even garbage cans untouched and full that existed for months in backyards.. then also thing universally unapproved of, like beekeeping in one property that leader of the board had, and it was active.. good news was the vote did change leadership and half the board members stepped down, bad news is the nazi regime continued to harass everyone, just little more lenient until the last winter i lived there when they started demanding things and even threatened to evict me from my house i owned for not clearing sidewalks, btw not our job.. and the house..i owned outside of HOA..i never took them to court on things,. i know i could have and won money.. but for me it was sort of entertaining, i knew they cant touch me legally, but they think they can...so gave me something to do as i was pissed off at end of the day after work and a place to vent my frustrations in cunning ways..
E.Duane Mitchell why do the HOA as always look to demonize people. Only a fool would buy a house in an HOA controlled area. I wouldn't tolerate anybody saying we don't like those curtains in your window we don't like that mad on your front porch I'd be out with my baseball bat kicking some ass. If they tried to tell me that. Hate your way should be banned in the United States cuz it doesn't go along with our constitutional rights
I heard that the HOA's will NOT be allowed to monitor your bathroom and bedroom for now, but of course will be allowed full access to the rest of the home's interior to make sure your house isn't turning into a "Hoarders" nightmare or a place where kids don't pick up all their toys.
I rented a duplex in an HOA neighborhood and kept my tent trailer in the carport when I didn’t use it( keep in mind I used this trailer regularly so it wasn’t trashed and got regular maintenance). Got a notice saying that it wasn’t allowed to be there and that I’d be fined if it wasn’t moved. Keep in mind 5 other neighbor’s car ports were filled with junk, boxes and rusted out cars that would never move again if they tried. I told them they’d have to enforce this on the other residents who’s carport was is much worse shape than mine. They attempted to tow it in the middle of the night not realizing I had it locked down tight. Woke up everyone in the house. I reiterated that if want my trailer gone then they’ll have to enforce their rules on the other residents who didn’t care what their carport looked like. They eventually gave up.
My HOA threatened to tow my pop up camper from my driveway. While I was on the phone with them I used my cell phone to call my local police department to inquire if my HOA was allowed to tow anything off of my property. NOPE - in Texas that is still considered theft. I was even told that I can park my RV in front of my house and the HOA can not do anything about it because it is a public street.
@@JenniferPerryMyScraproom exactly, thats what people don't seem to understand... just because a neighborhood gets an HOA, that doesn't mean the roads go from public to private. The roads will always be public, unless they are bought from the state/city; though, I would think most states/cities wouldn't sell the rights of the street in a neighborhood anyways. The HOA can, technically, own the properties in the neighborhood, but they do not own the street. Gated communities are a different story, as those communities when they were built bought all the land and then laid out the neighborhood so those communities are completely private. But just regular, non-gated neighborhoods, those streets are 99% of the time still public and the HOA can do nothing about it. The HOA only is able to enforce street "ordinances" in their contracts because homeowners in an HOAs tend not to look things up, or dive too deeply, until its too late and by then its very difficult to kick an HOA out.
robert karas they may have fees for a company that comes and cares for your front lawn so it's never in violation. Plus they may Paint and clean the outside of your house. I've lived in condos where that is the case and while expensive, it's worth it to me as someone with a disablilty where I would otherwise be expected to do it. (Where I live there are city bylaws about keeping your yard nice.)
HOA's reports on their do's and don'ts so everyone is on the same page. If a certain color combination is allowed for painting your home, you agree to follow that. But in a non-HOA community some clown next door decided to paint his house black and weird stripes, good luck when you decide to sell your home.
Not all HOA’s are the same. Some are super strict & overpowering, others are very mild and only get on you for things like leaving your front yards looking like trash. Something I actually like about HOA’s. I don’t wanna live in a nice home while my neighbor just lets his house go to shit, meanwhile decreasing MY property value
@@theone8502 You think this is about paint? Use your head. It could be a baking dog the does it 24/7, loud music until 5 am. I've seen the UK show of a-hole neighbors next door. The authorities are useless. Here the HOA will simply have you thrown out after making your life near impossible. They don't play around which is why some here like them. We want peace and tranquility in our homes but some neighbors mean to make your life hell. That's when HOA's are useful.
Many people buy into HOA properties without any knowledge of what kind of power they have over them. At closing so many documents are being pushed in front of you for you to sign that most people just do it in a daze to get it 'over with'. The very first thing you should tell the realtor when they are looking for a home is that you do not want to see any HOA governed houses! Avoid this headache by not buying into it in the first place!
if someone tried to fine me hundreds of dollars for some miner nonsense on my land i'd show at their home to express my feelings on the matter in person with a fire axe and a ski mask -see soundtrack here Danzig - Trouble
+thelaughingman- Yes...some are bad like the one featured here but I must say that most are good. You just really have to read the HOA documents and ask homeowners in the area if you are considering buying in a place with an HOA. I never lived in an area with an HOA and was definitely opposed to any such thing. Then, in 2009, my wife and I ended up buying a house in an area with an HOA and I was very nervous about it. We've been here 7 years now and our HOA is great...nothing like this one in this video. Ours is more of a sanity check with common sense rules...and they do a great job with the community. I think the key is having the right people on the board...ones that represent the homeowners interests well. Lastly, no news station would feature a story about a good HOA that is doing exactly what it is supposed to do...there's no story there...you will never hear about those HOA's. So, you will only see these bad examples in the news or on YT.
It's nice that you have a decent HOA... now. There's no reason that can't change though. A new board could easily change the rules and begin enforcing those new rules as well as old rules in ways that you don't anticipate. I wish you all the best with your HOA but I'll never take that risk.
It's part of the deed for the property that it is covered by a mandated HOA, buy buying you're obligated by law. people get all worked up about them - the whole idea is to keep the place looking decent for curb appeal on resale - that and the maintenance of commons grounds of the neighborhood like pool, walksways etc..
It is time to write a federal code of real estate law regarding CCRs and HOAs. This must be done on human rights grounds so that the new code of real estate law can supersede existing contracts and deeds and impair them when the terms of those contracts and deeds violate basic human rights. There should also be other provisions to protect owners of real property from other abuses such as adverse possession and intrusive private surveillance, photography and video. The new federal code of real estate law should include the following.: 1) A sale of real estate confers total ownership of the real estate to the new owner. There can be no hidden liabilities or limitations placed on the ownership. Mineral rights or other special uses of the land shall be a part of the ownership. All past splits of mineral or other rights shall revert back to the current land owner or new purchaser. Property rights shall extend from the depths of the Earth to the reaches of the sky, with very few exceptions. Only bona fide military, general aviation, and commercial transportation flights shall be allowed over private property. No unauthorized spying, photography, video, drone, RC, or other private flights should be allowed over private property. No exceptions should be made for private satellite companies, no matter the nation. In the case of satellites, some limited resolution to about 2 meters or so could be made. No private entity should be allowed to use or benefit from aerial surveillance of private property, unless contracted by the owner. High resolution imagery to better than 2 meter resolution of private property by private entities must be banned. No private entity should be allowed to post or obtain for public display aerial imagery of better than 2 meters surface resolution of private property without written permission from the owner or a court issued warrant allowing a law enforcement agency to contract the private entity. No intrusive imaging techniques should ever be allowed to any private entity. 2) Adverse possession, easements, and other usurpation of real estate by outside parties shall be severely limited. Any adverse possession or granting of easements of real estate through open, notorious, hostile, adverse use or occupation of the real estate by squatters or other nefarious usurpers should only be conferred after a minimum of 20 years of such activity. There should be no more short time frames for adverse possession or easements allowed. Any claim of adverse possession should required to include an act of due diligence on the part of the adverse party to locate and contact the owner, make reasonable offers of purchase, and afford the owner endless opportunity to say "no" to the adverse possession or easement. Any attempt by the current owner to say "no" to an attempted easement or adverse possession shall suffice to cancel any adverse claim on a property. Any subsequent violation of a request by an owner to vacate or stay off of a property shall be a criminal matter and the violator shall be treated as a felon. Local, state, bureaucratic, and other small regulatory restrictions on the placing of fences or other barriers to illicit traffic through a property shall not in any way interfere with an owner's right to say "no" to trespass. Saying "no" to trespass shall include any spoken or written request, signage at any time frame, notice given of a trespass problem to any authority, or any other communication which makes it clear that the owner has not abandoned the property. 3) In the case of private communities such as co ops, condos, HOA communities, and more, any private management group or individual shall only have the ability to introduce relevant and minor regulations of behavior and property use. Such management shall not be allowed to in any way restrict behavior or property use which an ordinary owner of a private piece of real estate would not face from a local or state government, and may not in any way usurp or supersede local or state law. Under no circumstances should any private management ever have police powers. An exception can be made for limited regulation of attached or large apartment complexes to prevent dangerous or obnoxious use which interferes with the rights or safety of others. In such cases, any state or local regulations shall apply if those local or state regulations are less restrictive. Even in such cases, private enforcement shall require a due process through the courts. No private entity ever has the right to make and enforce its own laws. 4) No eminent domain seizure should ever be allowed for the gain of a private entity at the expense of another. Under no circumstances should a private entity be given ownership of another party's real property through eminent domain seizure. There is only one reason why a private entity would want to use the eminent domain process to acquire another entity's real property, and that is corruption. We live in a capitalist society. Everybody has a price. If a private entity wants the property of another, they can make an offer of sufficient size to entice a sale. Under no circumstances does one have the right to substitute the eminent domain seizure process for being unwilling or too cheap to do business. An owner has every right to refuse a sale if they don't wish to vacate their property. The only entity which has the right to use and benefit from eminent domain seizure is the government, and only for dire military need, or for public utilities when there is no other choice. 5) The absolute flat real property tax must be abolished. It has been ruled that the power to tax is the power to destroy. Since property rights are a constitutionally recognized basic human right, property rights may not be taxed. Only the owner can be taxed. A taxing authority never has the right to use the real property tax to force an owner off of their land or out of their home. Real property taxes should be based not only on land value but on income. Real property taxes should never be allowed to be used to force negative cash flow on an owner who does not earn enough money to pay the taxes. Real property taxes should never be greater than the federal or state income taxes paid by a property owner. Being "land rich" is not a crime and government does not have the right to tax us out of our real property. Real property taxes should be based upon a definite and simple formula which includes income, property value, and ability to pay after reasonable living expenses.
One of our neighbours had complained about the big half pipe I built in my yard because my neighbour and I don't have a fence in between our house and whenever they had parties they'd use our property since their's has a big tree in the middle of their yard, we didn't mind though we let them have their parties we never really threw parties and when we did it was always our yard. Note my neighbours have a about 8 kids and whenever their family comes it multiplies by 10. Once I had installed it they started saying that they'll call the city and report that that's illegal because we need a permit. I later found out that the city of Chicago didn't care as long as it wasn't bigger than my garage and it wasn't. Our neighbours never spoke to us again. Now imagine if we had HOA I would probably never have had my half pipe
Facts the HOA tried to remove a ww2 m4a1 Sherman tank from the road the HOA says it scares nabors but there is not any nabors that is scared from that thing it doesn’t bother anyone in the naborhood And the Sherman landed at Normandy France and travelled all the way to Berlin
SpencerFcp HOA, may start out for good reasons. But in time, power corrupts. Maybe new people get voted in and they it all goes to hell. Why should you ask permission to do anything on the land and house you own. Let alone a public street? Can’t part out on the curb. Can’t park in your own driveway. Park in the garage only. Can’t put up satellite dish. It’s cable only, and generally some deal they signed with the cable company!!! It’s all a huge scam. I’d rather my neighbor had a couple cars on blocks next to my house, with 8 foot tall weeds than belong to and HOA. Besides the city would take care of a issue like that anyway. No need for a HOA. It’s a power trip for a small group if people to control your life. Sounds like a living Hell to me.
Using a drone to locate things that no one is complaining about or seeing from the road means that they have too much time on their hands and too many people on the HOA committee.
Nah, most are very good. Most operate like a true democratic system, even more so than the way the US government operates. Wherein the choice of most becomes the rule. We've had online votes sent out and even before the board meetings to officially void the rules, the HOA would send out an email saying we're not going to enforce this rule. It's usually the HOAs that are managed by outside contractors that really suffer and are hated. Ours is community managed with residents holding voting positions. They even added a position where a renter represented the renters since we live in a military community and about 25% of the community is occupied by renters.
Vegas Eddie ...not if the HOA comes to your area to start up an HOA ...after you purchased your home. It’s best to deny them coming into the area all together.
“Te whole purpose of an HOA is to make things easier, not to cause problems.” Clearly, this guy didn’t know anything about HOAs before he decided to join one.
Moral of the story; Never, ever be stupid enough to let anyone dictate what you can or cannot do to or have at YOUR house. Plenty of places to live without HOA’s
there should be some regulations put ion place that govern how HOA's are run and to limit the scope of power HOA's have over home owners. HOA's serve a purpose by keeping housing areas clean and keeping your property values up but in turn you sell your basic human rights to do whatever you want to your own house. everything from the color you paint it, to how many cars can park in front of your house and some HOA's even require you to seek approval before you host a party at your OWN HOUSE. Someone in HUD has to step up and limit these bloated associations power and cap how much they can charge in fines. $100 a day for having small trees - ludicrous.
Sad thing is... a lot of the times I see people living further out in the sticks have better looking homes and yards. I actually don't see much in the way of sloppy people. When you do see sloppy people they are usually living in the same area and that area is generally run down as well.
HOA "You have a shed that violates our rules" Home Owner: "How did you find out about it without being able to see it without trespassing on my property?" HOA: "We can see it on Google Maps." Home Owner: "You do realise that those pictures are several years old, don't you?" Me: On Google Maps, I can see 2 cars parked alongside my home and 2 more parked on the street. I don't own *any* of them now having sold all them years ago!
Who really things a HOA makes lives easier? I find that pretty funny. This those shed thing and looking at Google Map's. Who's really surprised by this? The HOA's go far, far lower then this. You couldn't pay me to move into a HOA. Well maybe 100 million I'd do it, but then I'd just rent it out and move someplace where I have more freedom.
xREZxTITANx Yes it makes my life easier and more freedom to do what I want. Somebody else cut the grass,landscape,maintenance,etc.. We have gates and security here so I can leave and be away for long periods of time without worry. I have the smallest unit(1500sqft) with two car garage,2bed/2bath with two balconies and Italian stucco design. Largest unit 2100sqft and 42 floor plans. I live in Tulsa. But I have been in Switzerland since mid July for Lugano Estival Jazz and will be here until the end of August doing some sailing and hiking. I have a home here.....a large 6 bedroom Italian farmhouse I bought and restored in 2001 that overlooks the lake with views of Mountains and many palm trees. It's a b&b three months a year. Also own an apartment in Rome with a rooftop garden that's a rental.....passive income and place to stay when there. You can see the dome from this place. During the Great Recession and housing crisis I bought another condo which over looks the gulf and marina. Cash was king back then and cheap homes for sale all over the country. This condo was $560k and I bought it as a short sale fully furnished for $240k cash on Marco Island. This is another place I don't need to worry about and I don't rent it out because it's too nice of place. My type of condo is in demand now because the eye of hurricane went right over it last year and no damage. I was there. Steel and concrete low rise structure with push button hurricane shutters that comes down over windows and envelopes the wraparound balconies. The value of it is back over $500k. And again....I have the freedom to do what "I" want. I'm a $160k/yr aerospace metallurgical engineer. I'm completely debt free,work 4 days a week,and can take off 6 weeks to 3 months off work without pay on top of the 5 weeks paid vacation each year. Like I said I've been in Europe since mid July until September. Last year I spent October through December traveling,exploring,and hiking through New Zealand,Cooks,Malaysia,Singapore,and Hong Kong with girl friend.This a December I will be traveling somewhere again. I take many mini vacations and long weekends as well or just take a day or two off work to read a book if I wish. I have free lifetime global flight benefits and take full advantage of them. I left Lockheed SkunkWorks and NASA to live in a cheaper part of the country and get these free flight benefits and still make close to the same pay. So I have great job,great pay,and freedom to do what I want so condos work for me.
We built in the Cantarra subdivision not far from there in 2009 and put a shed up almost immediately. When the builders turned over admin of the HOA the new "board" came knocking trying to badger us as well. Had to point out to them in their own document that sheds already up were grandfathered in. One time in a HOA community is enough to ensure that we never play their or any HOA's game again.
People have got to stop buying houses that are part of an HOA period. unless you don't mind having no rights over your own property. This is akin to having a car and buying rims then getting fined by your neighbors because your neighbors are dicks and hate spinners :P
I question about HOA (i don't own a home yet and not anytime soon) if you choose a home with HOA are you really owning that house and property or is it more considered lease/rent?
HOA that don't check the houses before new owner move in should be thow into jail or get kicked into a bottomless pit by the new house owner like 300th
W00DCHUCK Ya, everyone should have the same boring light brown house. There’s nothing wrong with a blue house or a red house or a green house, etc. You get a littler personality to the neighborhood. I’ve seen many house in all kinds of colors and they look great. I know of one house that was fighting the city over something, I don’t remember what it was, but they painted the house black and purple. It was like that for a number of years. Hey, at least it didn’t look like anyone else’s house. You should be free to paint your house however you want.
other way around - if the HOA is well run, the homes are very desireable because you have fair confidence someone isn't going to trash the neighborhood up around yours... have owned a couple in HOAs - they sell 1st.
The point of the HOA isn't to make your life easier 1:49 . HOAs was designed to give developers advertising and management rights. These rights where/are handed over to the home owners...home owners must join in order to buy homes in the HOA. The idea is to help maintain the value of the property by managing what is done to properties and that properties are properly maintained. The dues are used to help this as well, usually to pay for yard services, maintenance like sprinklers etc. You wouldn't want to spend a $1 million on a home and your neighbors paint them home in neon colors and have cars up on blocks in the driveway. Anyhow, it doesn't matter how they found out, most of the homes in his area are multilevel. Now with that said, I can't imagine how someone could resurrect that shed without the neighbors knowing about it and there being no record of it. Sounds weird to me. As a board member of our HOA, providing it doesn't conflict with any other rules, I would probably motion to grandfather it in as well.
I’m all for supporting our veterans, especially those disabled in service, but why do they so often include that info in these types of stories? It really is not relevant in this case!
O'Family On the Move it is as it means he is on a budget and may not be physically capable of tearing down his shed. Between those two things he can't just make the HOA happy by 'fixing the problem'
I have a container garden behind my house that’s not visible from the street. It’s not in an HOA (I hope it never is.) but would HOAs get on my case about it?
This is why I have no desire to live in a condo. I don't EVER want to have to deal with an HOA telling what I can and cannot do with and in my property.
Don’t know if this is true, but the contractor that built my small decks and rebuilt my large deck. Said, some counties in Maryland are using Satellite Images and AI to spot additions and code violations.
I don't understand HOAs for detached homes on public streets. I just looked at the google satellite view - the neighbor across the street from the pool house has what looks like shed in their backyard. A bit more to the north-west another house has something similar. I wonder if they received violation notifications as well.
I understand the point of hoh. but im also under the assumption (which is bad) or impression that the hoh or a board member is supposed to check in and out for all violations, have them removed or fixed prior to purchase and or inform the current purchaser of said violations they might have to take on buying the property?
My friend was told to take out a window air conditioner even though 5 houses down had one .She was told they were grandfathered and hers was not.Plus she spends 150.00 a month for this.
Put fake grass on the roof of the shed.
kelvin acosta great idea!
Brilliant!
Lmao put fake grass then tell them the shed was removed and the map hasn't updated yet, Once it updates they will have no idea.
it will still cast a shadow though
I think you can request your property be blurred on Google maps. He could do that, then say "prove i have a shed" and they couldn't.
I bought my house and property in a lumpsum paymet at auction when the previous owner was declared bankrupt. Turned out no one from the HOA showed up at the auction, so after the deed and all the titles were officially transferred to me, I get a letter from the HOA with a contract saying I have to sign this to live there.
Called up my lawyer to have it checked, turns out, no I don't have to sign that. The HOA should have come to the auction and should have bought the property if they wanted to stake a claim to it.
But even now, almost 5 years later, I still get people from the HOA at the door telling me my house is in violation of rule X and my yard in violation of rule Y, and I have to get it sorted or they will do it and bill me for the privilege. I don't even bother arguing with them anymore. I just straight up tell them to get off my property and if they don't I call the cops.
I bet they are going to freak out next summer when I start replacing the 30 year old bitumen on the roof with EPDM.
correct. that HOA was intruding on property belonging to another.
They think that because the house was originally in the grasp of the HOA when it was auctioned off, they still think it "technically" belongs to them even with papers saying otherwise. The HOA is just trying to pressure you into signing so they have "control" over something that they used to own so they can get money off of you...If they decide enough is enough and try to take you to court over this then they won't have a leg to stand on, sure they can say "it was originally in the HOA sphere so technically it's ours" but you have the deed and titles for it...judge might just say "Why weren't you there when you KNEW the house was being auctioned and you wanted to keep it in the HOA?" and dismiss it.
You are my hero!
You are my hero.
Also consider buying a taser if they keep coming onto your property.
Do tell us how it goes! Much love from Canada!
an hoa attempted to start in my neighborhood, we shut them down real fast by letting them know they were not wanted nor needed.
Andrew Murphy good job that couldve ending badly right ? all they want is to steal your money and tell you what to do with the properity that you own HOA is out of control everywhere with coruption
Andrew Murphy A neighborhood starting an HOA cannot force you to join it. As long as you don't pay the HOA statement and decline it you would legally be outside of HOA control.
If you buy a house in an HOA community you automatically join as a condition of sale.
What I learned fighting my neighborhood HOA.
Andrew Murphy my neighbor hood has a crappy hoa they can barley keep the pool running and clean not to mention like 12 or 13 yards look like crap in our neighborhood and they don't even care but at least they aren't over bearing like these hoa jerks
Now you and the rest of your neighbors need to go a step further and run the twats out who tried to start it or they will simply try again
This is true, a bunch of your homeowners can't decide out of the blue to start one then force you to abide by their rules. That kind of Socialism is reserved for the Democrats who run the Country.
A couple years ago me sister went to a open house. While she was there a man was signing papers on a million dollar house. All of the houses are surrounded by a large tract of land. My sister asked how much land is yours when you buy the house. The lady said 1 foot around the house, the rest is owned by the HOA. The man looked up and said what. The lady went on to explain that the land was still under development and not all of the houses were built yet. Most of the houses were going to be about a driveway apart from each other, with the driveway being owned by the HOA. At that point the man turned to my sister and said thank you, while he tore up the paperwork.
lol
real question is who the hell gave HOAs so much power? also who in their right mind would ever buy a house tied to an HOA?
Andy V The homeowners give this power to the HOA by signing a contract to abide by the rules promulgated by the HOA.
yes but once established in an area isn't pretty much everyone forced to sign or move and new buyers would be forced to sign before they could even move in?
Andy V nobody can force you to join in purchase
Andy V
I was looking into moving to Utah to be with my girlfriend. I looked at houses to purchase and rent and ALL of them were in HOA’s... I said this to her “haha... soo every house is in an HOA... change of plans you’re coming here!” Currently she’s being stubborn, but I ain’t living in an HOA even for love!
Try living in CA. HOAs literally own the entire state.
HOA'S need to be abolished. I've never heard a good story associated with HOA's, only horror stories over nothing.
People R. Animals
I remember reading awhile ago that a guy got fined for parking HIS truck in HIS driveway because the HOA didn’t allow vehicles to be parked in driveways.... then why even have them!?
Buidalot I have a friend who lives in a community with that rule as well. They must park in the garage, which is what the driveway is for. I would never live in a community with that rule. HOA's are the worst.
People R. Animals
Recently I was looking at moving to Utah to live with my girlfriend (she lives in a suburb of SLC) and all the houses listed were in HOA’s I told her nope you’re coming here instead cause I refuse to live in an HOA, not even love could make me live in one.
Buidalot buy a house not managed under an HOA.
Only the extreme stories make the news. The HOA paying bills to maintain common areas which benefits everyone doesn't make the news.
HOA's... the best example of how power, or perceived power, corrupts people
9753flyer yes HOA is very corrupt including violating privacy and crossing the line
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely and these guys are absolute dickheads.
Power does not corrupt. They were already corrupt and the power allowed them to exercise it freely.
I wish it was only “perceived” power! They can literally take your house from you!
9753flyer fully agree, but it's hard to sympathize with the people they prey on.
HOAs cost more to live in and people know the shit they pull. I can't feel for somebody dumb enough to sign a contract with one.
Land of the free - can't even put a shed in your garden unless someone else allows you to.
You can't have a shed but the house next door can have a swimming pool 😂😂
A swimming pool increases the value of a property, which is the goal of the HOA -to maintain and/or increase the value of the collective group of homes and to insure that one particular home does not devalue the surrounding home by poor choices of the homeowner.
Liam The shed looks nice and is maintained well though; it definitely doesn't decrease the property value. HOAs are usually full of greedy scumbags btw
He HOA probably approved the pool. The whole point is that it was built without approval.
Daniel Broderick yep I agree. The way the shed was maintained and the way it looks definitely didn’t decrease the value of the property. It fits the philosophy behind an HOA and therefore should be allowed.
Liam I don't want my property value higher. I bought to live and die in then leave to my kids. It's a home not an investment. Plus higher value means more taxes. What they really want is control over other folks lives.
If I'm going to live in a house that's governed by another party.. doesn't that make me a renter?
HoA's are asinine..
KremitDeFrog you pay property tax to the us gov. Technically you’re always a renter.
Everyone is renting their homes if they pay property tax, only people who actually own lands are corporations and indian reserves
my dad built a house on an open field out in the country. his yard was about 3 acres. 2yrs the rest of the field was turn into an hoa subdivision. he never signed on to the hoa when they moved in. they started harassing him about the size and location of his garden, parking his trailer on a extension off of his driveway he built specifically for it. then they tried fining him and evicting him. well a judge over turned the hoa's demands. well they still kept harassing him, so my dad went and bought the mineral rights to his property. he then went to the next hoa meeting and addressed the council. he told them that if they didn't stop harassing him that he would demolish his house and turn his property into a gravel pit, and reclaim the road that originally went just to his property that he still owns which the hoa stole and turned it into the main entrance to the subdivision and make it the main entrance to the pit. the hoa sued my dad over this and my dad won. the stopped bugging my dad after that. my dad then run for hoa president and won that also. he then nullified 90% of the rules and hoa are now only used to help the subdivision. the hoa board are not allowed any cut of the funds, no matter what now. 2 of the board members quit after that.
ben hawke in Texas it's against state law for any hoa board members or employees to collect any monies or salaries. Hoa positions are considered voluntary and the state made sure that it stayed that way
Read me another bedtime story pls
:)
Fucking legend
Your dad is a god
Your dad is savage lol great story!
It’ll be a cold day in hell before I ever move into a home under HOA supervision.
HOA’s quickly turns into a bully pulpit for the retired busy bodies in the HOA.
Markyellowcake Would you say something like that to your grandparents’ face?
Renville80 yer damn right I would.
Precisely! I have had to file a litigation against them for actual criminal harassment.
The elusive Bigfoot that is a *good* HOA story: I helped form an HOA several years ago, to force the land developer to fix the goddamn sewer system. It was a private system we all paid into and its maintenance was part of what we were paying for, but he preferred to keep the money for himself. So when it eventually got broken down enough to stop working properly, instead of fixing it he just pumped our sewage into the creek that ran through the neighborhood.
100 households or so, and he pumped sewage from about half of them into a designated scenic waterway without their knowledge, for months. He'd set up the equipment in the woods downstream of us to hide what he was doing, so we didn't know about it for a bit. Boy Scout troops and weekenders canoe down that creek, goddammit. We swam and boated in it all summer. And he gave zero fucks and told us we'd have to sue him to make him do anything about it.
We got the state DEQ on his ass and due to the severity and duration of the violations they hit him with the largest waterway pollution fine imposed on an individual in the state's history and made him fix the shit. Pardon the pun.
After that we didn't have much HOA business to attend to so we just met to have BBQs and bonfires and drink all the beers.
He was also into real estate fraud, sexual harassment and assault, trespassing, multiple physical assaults (including beating his wife in public), wage theft, abusing his employees, etc... a true buffet of fuckery. A few years after the sewer incident was resolved I moved out of state, and the day he died my phone rang off the hook from old neighbors calling to make sure I heard the news, and to celebrate. Fuck that guy. His name was Lawrence Elliott and he can rot in hell, but by god we got our creek back.
Wow
I thought the point of getting your own home is to do want you want with the property. I live in an apartment right now, I can't even put a lawn chair on our private yard
Olivia
For some people.
I prefer the rules and bylaws which is why I own two condos.
BlackWorldTraveler
The rules and bylaws are fine when they're working for you. When they work against you it's another story. When you get fined for your lawn not taking the approved sod, or for having a fixture that was installed prior to the HOA being brought in and you joining it, or any of the other hundreds of asinine things that HOA's create for no good reason, that's the problem.
Tim Brown
Seems this is an issue for homes in subdivisions. This is new to me. The city where I live I only know of something like $30 a year per house for the pool area or something like that.
One of the main reason I live in a condo is because I hate mowing and such. We have workers that do the mowing,landscape,maintenance,etc..paid for with part of our condo dues.
There's an inspection before you sell and things have to be corrected at owner cost such as removing that storage unit. Actually you won't be allowed to put it there to begin with my HOA.
Pretty strict condo HOA where I live which is why there are very few kids here and a waiting list.
Only work against you here when you don't abide by them.
Olivia
Probably because you chose to live in an apartment that does not allow lawn chairs on private yard.
Actually never heard of that considering all the apartments I've seen or lived in only had only a patio or balcony area.
BlackWorldTraveler or because the land lord chose to be irrationally obsessive about chairs and thus has a broken logic that can easily be poked fun at.
Thirty years ago I was looking at homes in a new development in my town. All of the lots were one acre. I commented, "That's nice and big, I could put up a nice shed." I was told that sheds weren't permitted. That blew that development for me. Later I found out that many people got around that rule buy building "playhouses" for their kids and then using the playhouses to store lawnmowers and other such stuff.
So this guy has a shed with all his stuff put away. When you look at the google map most yards around his are brown, his is green. This guy is taking care of his property and the HOA is still giving him a hard time.
The answer is simple, just leave the association.
You'd have to sell your house. And BTW it costs 8% of the value of the home to sell a house in this area.
cplcabs It’s how stupid Murica is, they don’t allow you to leave HOA in 99% of properties with HOA.
dodgeguyz $ in writting new rules and contracts..with new suckers..
@@cplcabs lol u want him to leave because a dumb ass shed attack
That attorney will cost more than the shed!
HOA Board members should be dropped into the middle of the Atlantic..
All of them.
I'd prefer the Pacific. It's deeper.
OK...I'm easy.
Dont forget to give them cement shoes.
You can't do that. It would badly pollute the poor ocean. Not to mention the poor sea animals wouldn't know to avoid HOA's and would get suckered in.
Instead let's drop them into the nearest volcano. Or maybe the middle of the Arctic.
MyComments834 a few are good
“Some light has been *shed* on his problem”
NEVER get a home run by an HOA!!!
Well why not? Sometimes it's worth the hassle. I live in a home run by an HOA and we have not had any problems, We have actually noticed over the year we have lived here that the HOA doesn't enforce our street at all really, And even if they did we ask the HOA for permission to park on the road for parties, Park trailers and tow trucks their all the time and they grant us permission to do so no problem.
beastm0de7 Then you have gotten lucky. I have heard more horror stories then positive things about HOAs. To me it’s playing Russian roulette. Odds I don’t care for.
beastm0de7 Why buy your own house just to be told what you can and cannot do with it?
You're basically saying, "My HOA is OK because they dont enforce the rules." which is messed up in itself. wait until they do start enforcing them.
And HOA is in essence a mini government. They change and make rules at Will if they like, and have the ability to take legal action that seems outrageous . Sounds just like government. And if you get some little tyrants or people that Have never had any real control, power in their entire lives and start becoming dictators, you’re screwed.
Honestly, I've never had to deal with HOA before, but from what I hear about them I would NEVER buy a house that has one, NOBODY is gonna tell me what I can or can't do with my own home that my hard earned money is paying for. One time, when I was looking for a house and I found out there was an HOA, I immediately walked out of the realtor's office. They were shocked and was begging me to come back.
If EVERYONE did that, this bs wouldn't be happening!!!
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Respect
*I'm a vet myself, but I can't stand when the media uses the "Is a disabled vet" in stories that have nothing to do with it.*
Mr Anderson ya it kind of demeans them. Why does it matter what the guy does or did for a living.
They do it to sensationalize the story to make you feel sorry for them more.
Mr Anderson ikr, im not a vet and you guys deserve every bit of recognition but it just seems demeaning when they just tack it on to every little thing for some sympathy...
its time for veterans and others. to stop these rich ppl or whatever they are..
It is relevant. He's on a limited income.
So "we're now working with the homeowner..." is code for "yeah we thought we could get away with it until our lawyer said no". Motion for inspection of the association records by the members...or the city council if necessary to get these shenanigans under control.
HOA: Harassing Owners Always.
Some light has been shed on his problem. Pure gold.
If you buy a home, you should be able to do whatever the he'll you want with your property. HOAs are ridiculous
GINNVNGAGAP including collecting cars etc..
Can’t even put up a pool because hoa
Wouldn't city/county ordinances cover that sort of thing? Oil leaking, etc.?
If anything I would be living in my own property I got with my own MONEY I would be walking around without any clothing ;)
jeff Webb My family has moved a lot and never into an hoa neighborhood and not once did we ever have neighbors who leave junk cars in their front yard. If you are so worried about that happening that you would willing be told how you can control your own home then that's proof you're a fool.
Best course of action in HOA cases is for the residents to band together and vote all the current people OFF the HOA board. Then they can instill their own people in office and immediately disband the HOA!
What the fuck is the problem having a garden shed anyway? The whole point of a shed is to put away yard tools, bikes, etc, so they aren't being an eyesore. Would they rather he left that shit laying all over his yard?
Yeah I'm sure they would, so they can just give him a bigger grocery list of violations. As long as they get more money in their pockets, they don't care.
What is that thing in his backyard, it's such an eyesore!
Oh you mean that huge ass pool taking up the entire yard?
No that small shed!
Simple solution-if nobody buys homes with HOA's. they will no longer exist.
chefdsal1 I love HOAs, it keeps out the trash...
Michael Morin more like keeps the trash in
chefdsal1 Well HOA's are acrually good...If your not living in one that have power crazed people on the board.
Boi how is that? HOA’s are meant to help keep you & your neighbors property values up. They will fine you the minute you have over grown weeds or trash/cigarette buds in the front yard, if you leave your trash cans out too long.. they just make sure you don’t let your house start looking like a dump. They don’t care what you do in your home, just what you do to the outside of it
Melachesta 1 another unneeded concern
So your telling me, I pay the HOA my money that I earned, so that they can tell me what i can and cannot do on my home and property. The home and property that I own, that I pay for with the money that I earn. Seems legit, where do I sign up?
kenny L.
Worse, they’re telling you what you can and can’t do in your back yard that no one can see without using Google Earth or a drone.
My sister had lived in one of these communities decades ago. They even told you what flowers you could plant where.
Sounds like you hit the nail on the head.
Have someone tell you what to do with property you bought, and pay for the privlege.
What's worse is that many HOAs can change the rules any time the board decides to do so; so what was OK with the HOA when you bought your place can become a problem when some fussy retiree with time on her hands decides to make it a problem.
I guess HOA's will purchase drones now.Those Google Earth images are always 4 or 5 months behind.
The picture of our property on there is years old.
when i was in an HOA subdivision couple years ago, total nazies.. i have a few drones, including a mavic pro, the HOA tried to get me arrested on invasion of privacy a few times, failed miserably once they managed to get money into police's pockets they also learned the its a federal jurisdiction and they have zero control over a drone situation.. then HOA came back to me paid me to help them locate violators with my drone.. agreed to help out, all i did was document board members violations with my drones... corrupted HYPOCRITES.. not only that they tried the excuse on me and the other people that lived there that came to put in a vote fore things, that it was one like this short period of time, 3 days excusable limit, i then showed them screen shots off my ipad at the time.. that it was sustained issue for months! trash in yard wasn't even blowing away after storms, un cared for back yards, hidden sheds, wood piles, rusted parts, and shit under back decks.. even garbage cans untouched and full that existed for months in backyards.. then also thing universally unapproved of, like beekeeping in one property that leader of the board had, and it was active.. good news was the vote did change leadership and half the board members stepped down, bad news is the nazi regime continued to harass everyone, just little more lenient until the last winter i lived there when they started demanding things and even threatened to evict me from my house i owned for not clearing sidewalks, btw not our job.. and the house..i owned outside of HOA..i never took them to court on things,. i know i could have and won money.. but for me it was sort of entertaining, i knew they cant touch me legally, but they think they can...so gave me something to do as i was pissed off at end of the day after work and a place to vent my frustrations in cunning ways..
E.Duane Mitchell HOA has already used drone pictures to fine me for violations
E.Duane Mitchell why do the HOA as always look to demonize people. Only a fool would buy a house in an HOA controlled area. I wouldn't tolerate anybody saying we don't like those curtains in your window we don't like that mad on your front porch I'd be out with my baseball bat kicking some ass. If they tried to tell me that. Hate your way should be banned in the United States cuz it doesn't go along with our constitutional rights
I heard that the HOA's will NOT be allowed to monitor your bathroom and bedroom for now, but of course will be allowed full access to the rest of the home's interior to make sure your house isn't turning into a "Hoarders" nightmare or a place where kids don't pick up all their toys.
This is why you NEVER buy a house in a HOA unless you like being told what to do by someone else.
I rented a duplex in an HOA neighborhood and kept my tent trailer in the carport when I didn’t use it( keep in mind I used this trailer regularly so it wasn’t trashed and got regular maintenance). Got a notice saying that it wasn’t allowed to be there and that I’d be fined if it wasn’t moved. Keep in mind 5 other neighbor’s car ports were filled with junk, boxes and rusted out cars that would never move again if they tried. I told them they’d have to enforce this on the other residents who’s carport was is much worse shape than mine. They attempted to tow it in the middle of the night not realizing I had it locked down tight. Woke up everyone in the house. I reiterated that if want my trailer gone then they’ll have to enforce their rules on the other residents who didn’t care what their carport looked like. They eventually gave up.
My HOA threatened to tow my pop up camper from my driveway. While I was on the phone with them I used my cell phone to call my local police department to inquire if my HOA was allowed to tow anything off of my property. NOPE - in Texas that is still considered theft. I was even told that I can park my RV in front of my house and the HOA can not do anything about it because it is a public street.
@@JenniferPerryMyScraproom exactly, thats what people don't seem to understand... just because a neighborhood gets an HOA, that doesn't mean the roads go from public to private. The roads will always be public, unless they are bought from the state/city; though, I would think most states/cities wouldn't sell the rights of the street in a neighborhood anyways. The HOA can, technically, own the properties in the neighborhood, but they do not own the street. Gated communities are a different story, as those communities when they were built bought all the land and then laid out the neighborhood so those communities are completely private. But just regular, non-gated neighborhoods, those streets are 99% of the time still public and the HOA can do nothing about it. The HOA only is able to enforce street "ordinances" in their contracts because homeowners in an HOAs tend not to look things up, or dive too deeply, until its too late and by then its very difficult to kick an HOA out.
Omar Lewis you are a great up and coming newscaster!!
"The whole point of them is to make our lives easier, not to cause problems"
When has HOA ever been a good thing and made lives easier???
robert karas they may have fees for a company that comes and cares for your front lawn so it's never in violation. Plus they may Paint and clean the outside of your house. I've lived in condos where that is the case and while expensive, it's worth it to me as someone with a disablilty where I would otherwise be expected to do it. (Where I live there are city bylaws about keeping your yard nice.)
HOA's reports on their do's and don'ts so everyone is on the same page. If a certain color combination is allowed for painting your home, you agree to follow that. But in a non-HOA community some clown next door decided to paint his house black and weird stripes, good luck when you decide to sell your home.
Not all HOA’s are the same. Some are super strict & overpowering, others are very mild and only get on you for things like leaving your front yards looking like trash. Something I actually like about HOA’s. I don’t wanna live in a nice home while my neighbor just lets his house go to shit, meanwhile decreasing MY property value
@@treehouse2902 why would you care if your neighbor paints his house pink with black stripes, you need to get a life. So grateful i live in the uk
@@theone8502 You think this is about paint? Use your head. It could be a baking dog the does it 24/7, loud music until 5 am. I've seen the UK show of a-hole neighbors next door. The authorities are useless. Here the HOA will simply have you thrown out after making your life near impossible. They don't play around which is why some here like them. We want peace and tranquility in our homes but some neighbors mean to make your life hell. That's when HOA's are useful.
If you pay into the HOA, you deserve every element of ignorance you signed up for. Its ridiculous...
so people actually sign up for this shit willingly? ....i understand nothing.
Many people buy into HOA properties without any knowledge of what kind of power they have over them. At closing so many documents are being pushed in front of you for you to sign that most people just do it in a daze to get it 'over with'. The very first thing you should tell the realtor when they are looking for a home is that you do not want to see any HOA governed houses! Avoid this headache by not buying into it in the first place!
if someone tried to fine me hundreds of dollars for some miner nonsense on my land i'd show at their home to express my feelings on the matter in person with a fire axe and a ski mask -see soundtrack here Danzig - Trouble
+thelaughingman- Yes...some are bad like the one featured here but I must say that most are good. You just really have to read the HOA documents and ask homeowners in the area if you are considering buying in a place with an HOA. I never lived in an area with an HOA and was definitely opposed to any such thing. Then, in 2009, my wife and I ended up buying a house in an area with an HOA and I was very nervous about it. We've been here 7 years now and our HOA is great...nothing like this one in this video. Ours is more of a sanity check with common sense rules...and they do a great job with the community. I think the key is having the right people on the board...ones that represent the homeowners interests well. Lastly, no news station would feature a story about a good HOA that is doing exactly what it is supposed to do...there's no story there...you will never hear about those HOA's. So, you will only see these bad examples in the news or on YT.
Dewy Russ-All that being said I'd rather live HOA free...
It's nice that you have a decent HOA... now. There's no reason that can't change though. A new board could easily change the rules and begin enforcing those new rules as well as old rules in ways that you don't anticipate. I wish you all the best with your HOA but I'll never take that risk.
“Some light has been SHED on his problem” 😂😂😂
Lesson learned: before signing the bill.of sale for the deed, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS ASK if the home is involved in A HOA!!!!!
Joseph Dugan the turn down the sale, and or offer 40% less
Even if it is, can you not just refuse to sign the bit about the association?
+cplcabs No you cannot
ironmatic 1 so much for the land of the free thing then
It's part of the deed for the property that it is covered by a mandated HOA, buy buying you're obligated by law. people get all worked up about them - the whole idea is to keep the place looking decent for curb appeal on resale - that and the maintenance of commons grounds of the neighborhood like pool, walksways etc..
It is time to write a federal code of real estate law regarding CCRs and HOAs. This must be done on human rights grounds so that the new code of real estate law can supersede existing contracts and deeds and impair them when the terms of those contracts and deeds violate basic human rights. There should also be other provisions to protect owners of real property from other abuses such as adverse possession and intrusive private surveillance, photography and video. The new federal code of real estate law should include the following.:
1) A sale of real estate confers total ownership of the real estate to the new owner. There can be no hidden liabilities or limitations placed on the ownership. Mineral rights or other special uses of the land shall be a part of the ownership. All past splits of mineral or other rights shall revert back to the current land owner or new purchaser. Property rights shall extend from the depths of the Earth to the reaches of the sky, with very few exceptions. Only bona fide military, general aviation, and commercial transportation flights shall be allowed over private property. No unauthorized spying, photography, video, drone, RC, or other private flights should be allowed over private property. No exceptions should be made for private satellite companies, no matter the nation. In the case of satellites, some limited resolution to about 2 meters or so could be made. No private entity should be allowed to use or benefit from aerial surveillance of private property, unless contracted by the owner. High resolution imagery to better than 2 meter resolution of private property by private entities must be banned. No private entity should be allowed to post or obtain for public display aerial imagery of better than 2 meters surface resolution of private property without written permission from the owner or a court issued warrant allowing a law enforcement agency to contract the private entity. No intrusive imaging techniques should ever be allowed to any private entity.
2) Adverse possession, easements, and other usurpation of real estate by outside parties shall be severely limited. Any adverse possession or granting of easements of real estate through open, notorious, hostile, adverse use or occupation of the real estate by squatters or other nefarious usurpers should only be conferred after a minimum of 20 years of such activity. There should be no more short time frames for adverse possession or easements allowed. Any claim of adverse possession should required to include an act of due diligence on the part of the adverse party to locate and contact the owner, make reasonable offers of purchase, and afford the owner endless opportunity to say "no" to the adverse possession or easement. Any attempt by the current owner to say "no" to an attempted easement or adverse possession shall suffice to cancel any adverse claim on a property. Any subsequent violation of a request by an owner to vacate or stay off of a property shall be a criminal matter and the violator shall be treated as a felon. Local, state, bureaucratic, and other small regulatory restrictions on the placing of fences or other barriers to illicit traffic through a property shall not in any way interfere with an owner's right to say "no" to trespass. Saying "no" to trespass shall include any spoken or written request, signage at any time frame, notice given of a trespass problem to any authority, or any other communication which makes it clear that the owner has not abandoned the property.
3) In the case of private communities such as co ops, condos, HOA communities, and more, any private management group or individual shall only have the ability to introduce relevant and minor regulations of behavior and property use. Such management shall not be allowed to in any way restrict behavior or property use which an ordinary owner of a private piece of real estate would not face from a local or state government, and may not in any way usurp or supersede local or state law. Under no circumstances should any private management ever have police powers. An exception can be made for limited regulation of attached or large apartment complexes to prevent dangerous or obnoxious use which interferes with the rights or safety of others. In such cases, any state or local regulations shall apply if those local or state regulations are less restrictive. Even in such cases, private enforcement shall require a due process through the courts. No private entity ever has the right to make and enforce its own laws.
4) No eminent domain seizure should ever be allowed for the gain of a private entity at the expense of another. Under no circumstances should a private entity be given ownership of another party's real property through eminent domain seizure. There is only one reason why a private entity would want to use the eminent domain process to acquire another entity's real property, and that is corruption. We live in a capitalist society. Everybody has a price. If a private entity wants the property of another, they can make an offer of sufficient size to entice a sale. Under no circumstances does one have the right to substitute the eminent domain seizure process for being unwilling or too cheap to do business. An owner has every right to refuse a sale if they don't wish to vacate their property. The only entity which has the right to use and benefit from eminent domain seizure is the government, and only for dire military need, or for public utilities when there is no other choice.
5) The absolute flat real property tax must be abolished. It has been ruled that the power to tax is the power to destroy. Since property rights are a constitutionally recognized basic human right, property rights may not be taxed. Only the owner can be taxed. A taxing authority never has the right to use the real property tax to force an owner off of their land or out of their home. Real property taxes should be based not only on land value but on income. Real property taxes should never be allowed to be used to force negative cash flow on an owner who does not earn enough money to pay the taxes. Real property taxes should never be greater than the federal or state income taxes paid by a property owner. Being "land rich" is not a crime and government does not have the right to tax us out of our real property. Real property taxes should be based upon a definite and simple formula which includes income, property value, and ability to pay after reasonable living expenses.
One of our neighbours had complained about the big half pipe I built in my yard because my neighbour and I don't have a fence in between our house and whenever they had parties they'd use our property since their's has a big tree in the middle of their yard, we didn't mind though we let them have their parties we never really threw parties and when we did it was always our yard. Note my neighbours have a about 8 kids and whenever their family comes it multiplies by 10. Once I had installed it they started saying that they'll call the city and report that that's illegal because we need a permit. I later found out that the city of Chicago didn't care as long as it wasn't bigger than my garage and it wasn't. Our neighbours never spoke to us again. Now imagine if we had HOA I would probably never have had my half pipe
Jesus Bahena Being as they had kids they should love you had a have pipe it would be a great place to the kids play
Facts the HOA tried to remove a ww2 m4a1 Sherman tank from the road the HOA says it scares nabors but there is not any nabors that is scared from that thing it doesn’t bother anyone in the naborhood
And the Sherman landed at Normandy France and travelled all the way to Berlin
Pure entiltelment
Everytime I hear about an HOA, it's always bad. No one ever has a "Thank goodness we have an HOA" story
"The whole purpose of them is to make our lives easier"
Someone didn't read the HoA handbook.
SpencerFcp
HOA, may start out for good reasons. But in time, power corrupts. Maybe new people get voted in and they it all goes to hell. Why should you ask permission to do anything on the land and house you own. Let alone a public street? Can’t part out on the curb. Can’t park in your own driveway. Park in the garage only. Can’t put up satellite dish. It’s cable only, and generally some deal they signed with the cable company!!! It’s all a huge scam. I’d rather my neighbor had a couple cars on blocks next to my house, with 8 foot tall weeds than belong to and HOA. Besides the city would take care of a issue like that anyway. No need for a HOA. It’s a power trip for a small group if people to control your life. Sounds like a living Hell to me.
Using a drone to locate things that no one is complaining about or seeing from the road means that they have too much time on their hands and too many people on the HOA committee.
And that's called invasion of privacy, I'd catch the Drone using a thin net that is not easily seen then get it and destroy it.
That's why you don't join an HOA
So its so private and not bothering anyone they need a satalite to find it?
All HoA are jokes!
Nah, most are very good. Most operate like a true democratic system, even more so than the way the US government operates. Wherein the choice of most becomes the rule. We've had online votes sent out and even before the board meetings to officially void the rules, the HOA would send out an email saying we're not going to enforce this rule. It's usually the HOAs that are managed by outside contractors that really suffer and are hated. Ours is community managed with residents holding voting positions. They even added a position where a renter represented the renters since we live in a military community and about 25% of the community is occupied by renters.
BewareTheIdes my home is not yours to be democratic over. Don't like it?? Tough. My rules are the only applicable ones. You don't have to like it
circusboy90210 Then don’t buy in an HOA community.
Vegas Eddie ...not if the HOA comes to your area to start up an HOA ...after you purchased your home. It’s best to deny them coming into the area all together.
“Te whole purpose of an HOA is to make things easier, not to cause problems.”
Clearly, this guy didn’t know anything about HOAs before he decided to join one.
Hoa is so unamerican.
No, Hoa is typically american, and only exists in that fucked-up country. Home of the free, what a fucking joke!
looks like someone missed someone's point and instead made it again for them, sarcastically this time...
Hoa is American* cause only in Merika these problems exist
HOA is totally American. In every which way
HOA is actually VERY American. Putting our nose in other people's business seems to be what we're best at.
You can also check what year that satélite image was taken
The moral of the story is never buy property that’s governed by a homeowners association.
I won’t!
Marina Capri Here here. I'm with you. No HOA for me. Not ever.
Refuse to sign the hoa agreements on purchase
Moral of the story; Never, ever be stupid enough to let anyone dictate what you can or cannot do to or have at YOUR house. Plenty of places to live without HOA’s
Rule 1, never, ever live in a HOA, ever.
He nailed when he said the association is supposed to make their lives easier not harder
A new home owner inherits previous owner's violations?!! What kind of fucked up shit is that?!
If you buy a house anywhere and there's something the matter with it then you're responsible. That's just common sense.
+zeke1220 it's a fucking shed , not broken windows and a car without tires outside ...
Never buy into an HOA, nuff said.
Moral of the story? Avoid HOA's like the plague.
Definite invasion of privacy!
there should be some regulations put ion place that govern how HOA's are run and to limit the scope of power HOA's have over home owners. HOA's serve a purpose by keeping housing areas clean and keeping your property values up but in turn you sell your basic human rights to do whatever you want to your own house. everything from the color you paint it, to how many cars can park in front of your house and some HOA's even require you to seek approval before you host a party at your OWN HOUSE. Someone in HUD has to step up and limit these bloated associations power and cap how much they can charge in fines. $100 a day for having small trees - ludicrous.
Sad thing is... a lot of the times I see people living further out in the sticks have better looking homes and yards. I actually don't see much in the way of sloppy people. When you do see sloppy people they are usually living in the same area and that area is generally run down as well.
HOA "You have a shed that violates our rules"
Home Owner: "How did you find out about it without being able to see it without trespassing on my property?"
HOA: "We can see it on Google Maps."
Home Owner: "You do realise that those pictures are several years old, don't you?"
Me: On Google Maps, I can see 2 cars parked alongside my home and 2 more parked on the street. I don't own *any* of them now having sold all them years ago!
Who really things a HOA makes lives easier? I find that pretty funny. This those shed thing and looking at Google Map's. Who's really surprised by this? The HOA's go far, far lower then this. You couldn't pay me to move into a HOA. Well maybe 100 million I'd do it, but then I'd just rent it out and move someplace where I have more freedom.
Rent it out to a section 8 for maximum fun.
You could buy the HOA for a fraction of that $100 million.
JB Dragon
They make my life easier at the condo communities where I live.
And I have more freedom because of it.
BlackWorldTraveler condos yeah cause I'll be sharing the same space with others. But hoa in community houses sucks ass
xREZxTITANx
Yes it makes my life easier and more freedom to do what I want.
Somebody else cut the grass,landscape,maintenance,etc.. We have gates and security here so I can leave and be away for long periods of time without worry. I have the smallest unit(1500sqft) with two car garage,2bed/2bath with two balconies and Italian stucco design. Largest unit 2100sqft and 42 floor plans.
I live in Tulsa. But I have been in Switzerland since mid July for Lugano Estival Jazz and will be here until the end of August doing some sailing and hiking. I have a home here.....a large 6 bedroom Italian farmhouse I bought and restored in 2001 that overlooks the lake with views of Mountains and many palm trees. It's a b&b three months a year.
Also own an apartment in Rome with a rooftop garden that's a rental.....passive income and place to stay when there. You can see the dome from this place.
During the Great Recession and housing crisis I bought another condo which over looks the gulf and marina.
Cash was king back then and cheap homes for sale all over the country.
This condo was $560k and I bought it as a short sale fully furnished for $240k cash on Marco
Island. This is another place I don't need to worry about and I don't rent it out because it's too nice of place. My type of condo is in demand now because the eye of hurricane went right over it last year and no damage. I was there. Steel and concrete low rise structure with push button hurricane shutters that comes down over windows and envelopes the wraparound balconies.
The value of it is back over $500k.
And again....I have the freedom to do what "I" want. I'm a $160k/yr aerospace metallurgical engineer.
I'm completely debt free,work 4 days a week,and can take off 6 weeks to 3 months off work without pay on top of the 5 weeks paid vacation each year.
Like I said I've been in Europe since mid July until September. Last year I spent October through December traveling,exploring,and hiking through New Zealand,Cooks,Malaysia,Singapore,and Hong Kong with girl friend.This a December I will be traveling somewhere again.
I take many mini vacations and long weekends as well or just take a day or two off work to read a book if I wish.
I have free lifetime global flight benefits and take full advantage of them. I left Lockheed SkunkWorks and NASA to live in a cheaper part of the country and get these free flight benefits and still make close to the same pay.
So I have great job,great pay,and freedom to do what I want so condos work for me.
We built in the Cantarra subdivision not far from there in 2009 and put a shed up almost immediately. When the builders turned over admin of the HOA the new "board" came knocking trying to badger us as well. Had to point out to them in their own document that sheds already up were grandfathered in. One time in a HOA community is enough to ensure that we never play their or any HOA's game again.
People have got to stop buying houses that are part of an HOA period. unless you don't mind having no rights over your own property. This is akin to having a car and buying rims then getting fined by your neighbors because your neighbors are dicks and hate spinners :P
I question about HOA (i don't own a home yet and not anytime soon) if you choose a home with HOA are you really owning that house and property or is it more considered lease/rent?
HOA that don't check the houses before new owner move in should be thow into jail or get kicked into a bottomless pit by the new house owner like 300th
Why would they care if you have a shed or not?
God forbid they paint their house blue
Colin Beirne god forbid anyone paints their house blue, thats just stupid. Why not paint it hot pink with purple shutters. (Sarcasm)
W00DCHUCK
Ya, everyone should have the same boring light brown house.
There’s nothing wrong with a blue house or a red house or a green house, etc. You get a littler personality to the neighborhood. I’ve seen many house in all kinds of colors and they look great.
I know of one house that was fighting the city over something, I don’t remember what it was, but they painted the house black and purple. It was like that for a number of years. Hey, at least it didn’t look like anyone else’s house. You should be free to paint your house however you want.
Only if they do the garage door in orange.
This really sheds light on shady HOAs really are.
What is tge point of an HOA anyways to lower property values because nobody wants to live in a HOA house
other way around - if the HOA is well run, the homes are very desireable because you have fair confidence someone isn't going to trash the neighborhood up around yours... have owned a couple in HOAs - they sell 1st.
Let's hope he never shed any tears over this matter .
If you buy into an HOA then take your screwing with a smile.
The point of the HOA isn't to make your life easier 1:49 . HOAs was designed to give developers advertising and management rights. These rights where/are handed over to the home owners...home owners must join in order to buy homes in the HOA. The idea is to help maintain the value of the property by managing what is done to properties and that properties are properly maintained. The dues are used to help this as well, usually to pay for yard services, maintenance like sprinklers etc. You wouldn't want to spend a $1 million on a home and your neighbors paint them home in neon colors and have cars up on blocks in the driveway.
Anyhow, it doesn't matter how they found out, most of the homes in his area are multilevel. Now with that said, I can't imagine how someone could resurrect that shed without the neighbors knowing about it and there being no record of it. Sounds weird to me. As a board member of our HOA, providing it doesn't conflict with any other rules, I would probably motion to grandfather it in as well.
My Road Tours what my neighbors do and how many cars they collect on their own land is not my concern in a free and sovereign nation
I’m all for supporting our veterans, especially those disabled in service, but why do they so often include that info in these types of stories? It really is not relevant in this case!
O'Family On the Move it is as it means he is on a budget and may not be physically capable of tearing down his shed. Between those two things he can't just make the HOA happy by 'fixing the problem'
There is no more despicable organization on the face of the earth then a homeowners association.
A shed? Or a DREAD???
As a non American, homeowner associations are incredibly bizarre, insane things.
I have a container garden behind my house that’s not visible from the street. It’s not in an HOA (I hope it never is.) but would HOAs get on my case about it?
Not the first time Hoa has stepped out of their own bounds and it won't be last.
This is why I have no desire to live in a condo. I don't EVER want to have to deal with an HOA telling what I can and cannot do with and in my property.
Would it be possible to put fake grass on top of the shed to disguise it?
Our number one requirement in purchasing any home is: NO HOME OWNER'S ASSOCIATION!!!
When did hoa assume that they have this power
My HOA actually snuck into my backyard to see an violations
Anyone who would live with an HOA deserves what they get.
If you give up basic human rights for a temporary sense of security, you deserve neither.
This SHEDs some light on the situation.
Someone tell me what an HOA is and what they do? Also why is the shed an issue?
My parents always told me “don’t buy in the city limits”. Stuff like this is why (I consider cities and HOAs to be the same thing)
And what is the problem with a garden shed?
Is there anything not broken in the US right now?
My 96' dodge ram.
W00DCHUCK Good.
Don’t know if this is true, but the contractor that built my small decks and rebuilt my large deck. Said, some counties in Maryland are using Satellite Images and AI to spot additions and code violations.
I don't understand HOAs for detached homes on public streets. I just looked at the google satellite view - the neighbor across the street from the pool house has what looks like shed in their backyard. A bit more to the north-west another house has something similar. I wonder if they received violation notifications as well.
So his next-door neighbor has a giant pool and backyard furnishings, but this guy’s tiny shed is a problem?
Why.
I understand the point of hoh. but im also under the assumption (which is bad) or impression that the hoh or a board member is supposed to check in and out for all violations, have them removed or fixed prior to purchase and or inform the current purchaser of said violations they might have to take on buying the property?
HOAs should be declared unconstitutional.
I agree, but why live there, anyways. Just buy a home elsewhere.
My friend was told to take out a window air conditioner even though 5 houses down had one .She was told they were grandfathered and hers was not.Plus she spends 150.00 a month for this.
What's so wrong about a shed though?
I’m from Canada and I’ve never even heard of an HOA