Georgia lawmakers to rein in aggressive HOAs after hearing homeowner horror stories
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- HOA nightmares are one of the most frequent calls into the Channel 2 Action News investigative tipline. Now there are new bipartisan efforts by state lawmakers to look at how to reign in homeowner associations that go too far.
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Best law is fully banning HOA
I don’t agree but more regulation needs to be put in place
Honestly yes. Sorry it's officially out of control.
HOAs have there uses but when they get out of control they can be harmful
I want to be in one. What right have you, the government, Donzella or Mr Brass to tell me and my neighbors how to organize ourselves?
I disagree. You want anonymity, live in the country and they have rules as well
HOAs should never be allowed to foreclose a home.
I agree! That’s taking it too far!
Good way to get your life foreclosed on.
It’s a last resort but it’s an enforcement measure when everything else has failed. Have you heard the saying you can’t get blood from a stone ? Well you can at least get equity from someone’s house.
People don’t get to ignore their financial obligations to the HOA or their responsibility to keep up their property, if they do they get tossed out.
They can go do poor people 💩 somewhere else.
@@bsgvlog5640 I tell people it is important to read a contract or have an attorney read a contract before signing. Most people NEVER bother reading that HOA contract.
There are reasons to allow foreclosures, but they are very rare and more to incentivize doing the right thing. The examples here are insane. The issues are that some boards are not resident focused combined with the fact that most property management companies are awful.
My sister is a realtor and she's told me that over the last five years the 'no HOA' rule has become quite common among buyers. An HOA is often the deciding factor between two comparable homes. Recently a small subdivision in our county dissolved their HOA because it's very existence was driving down their home prices. The entire point of an HOA is to preserve home prices, so the owners decided there was no point in the organization.
People are wising up. This is the only way to end this nonsense.
That was the number 1 rule we gave our realtor, along with the second rule of see the first! My brother bought his house 6 mo later, in an HOA. I've spend the last 20 yrs listening to him complain, but now he's the HOA President and spends most of his off time dealing with it. And his HOA isn't that bad, some of these are run by people that think their Chairman Mao.
@@lordraven2264It was a legal way to still maintain covenants on a deed.
@@lordraven2264 You are 100% correct, People that think for themselves but why? Sadly, the answer is apathy which I'm sure your brother can verify. The people who end up "volunteering" for the job connect with a "property manager" and homeowners become victims. I see it as the same thing with our Countries "deep state". Cheers and good luck with the HOA there is always an option of mounting a movement to secure proxies where Homeowners vote as a block and retake their control. I even had a City Manager attend an annual vote to prevent democrat type activities.
The entire point of a HOA is not to maintain house prices. It's to own the shared property. If your community has a pool, who pays to repair it when it breaks? The HOA. The builder will often put in rules to maintain the house prices while the builder is still building subsequent phases, but you can vote those out if you want.
HOAs are about losers who just have to be able to bully others with legal protection
There's not enough middle fingers on this planet to describe how I feel about HOAs!😮
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A HOA shouldn’t be able to steal your house you paid for.
What if they used Manifest Destiny? Like how the Native Americans were treated on their land.
@@presidentcamacho Meh... back then the government only did what the Natives had already been doing to each other for centuries... the government was just far better at doing it than the Natives. Quit whining and get over it.🙄
And try using _"eminent domain"_ instead _"manifest destiny"._ That'll help you move into the 21st century.
@@donarthiazi2443 sounds about MAGA
@@presidentcamachogreat question.
@@peachesandpoetsI’m sorry if you can’t handle truth
HOAs should be abolished. They really aren't necessary for a community to thrive.
There has to be a middle ground. Having no rules has rarely gone well for everyone. I agree that these law firm back HOAs need to be abolished! They are only milking the system. I imagine the $3.25 home sale went to one of the lawyers.
@@Bare_Essence there are state and county laws why do you feel the need to have extra rules
@Bare_Essence There are neighborhoods with no HOA's. HOA's are not necessary. They only harass people on ridiculous violations that don't make a difference in the community. Like not being allowed to have bins on the side of the house, or having a potted plant in front of the garage etc. There are already local laws in place that can keep communities in check. The city already will ticket overgrown yards etc.
@@lostin.psychosis7080haven’t you driven in a non HOA neighborhood and see the house that’s falling apart, hasn’t been painted, weeds up the wazoo and 50 cars with no tires parked in the front? That’s why HOA can Be a good thing when it’s not abusive.
@@soufwesthoustontx Agreed that good neighborhoods exist without HOA. Good ones exist with HOA. Without known rules, some people can do terrible things to neighborhoods. And local/state/county laws do not cover most common complaints.
I sued my old HOA for charging me past due fees when I was on auto pay, they changed auto pay bank and never told me. I lost in circuit court but won in Florida Supreme Court. Never let them get away with it.
This is so wicked! Especially that first woman who paid everything on time. The nerve of the HOA to wait 2-3 months to cash checks. These wicked people knew what they were doing.
How does american banking system work ? For our HOA's (or equivalent since I'm in France) I Every 3 month I log into my bank account on my computer, and transfer the amount requested to their account which they provided me the number of, and in a matter of second they have the money onto their bank account. Takes me less than a minute total.
The problem is not excessive HOA policing. The root of the problem is the existence of HOAs themselves.
who needs the mafia when we have HOA
@@mina_loi I LOOOVE HOAs!
As a European its kinda the craziest thing i have ever heared of and all these storys are pretty entertaining...
But dont get me wrong: Of corse I would never live in an HOA, it sounds like a neighborhood full of evil Mother in Laws 😁😆
An HOA is basically a government: it can be good if it's well designed and staffed by decent people.
@@Spearca There's no need for any governing of the minute details of a person's personal abode. A home is where a person should feel peaceful and not be a slave to rules regarding the physical residence set by others as far as possible.
Governing body or lack thereof, the fact that non HOA houses fetch a higher average selling price is reason enough to do away with HOAs.
Even if we assume a HOA is "well run", a person's home will still be subject to the rules and whims of that "governing body". Thanks, but no thanks.
@@oldporkchops Have you ever had a complaint about something a neighbor was doing? That's where HOAs mostly come from, the desire of homeowners to protect the comfort and value of their homes.
To be clear, I think most of them do a bad job of it, and they do tend to attract or encourage petty tyrants. But they were established by the homeowners, for what seemed like good reasons at the time.
In a few cases they are used more creatively and positively. Some "intentional communities" are structured as HOAs.
Never buy a home with a HOA
Absolutely Correct!
I agree
Yeah nah
It’s crazy around me all the neighborhoods being built and it so a ton of them are all going to be HOAs. It’s freaking insane. I hate what our nation has become. There was a time when people loved freedom. Now people just love authoritarianism it seems. I don’t get it.
Not always possible.
Why does HOA even exist!????
Sounds like a criminal entity.
Who is going to pay for the amenities owned by the community, or the services provided?
They are community organizations not businesses. One is usually formed to conduct business on behalf of the community.
@@steelyspielbergo Who cares. Not interested in amenities, just the house.
@@shawnstephens1251 good for you
@@steelyspielbergo And bad for you. Don't forget to pay your dues.
I lived in an HOA in central Georgia once...for about six months. Then I realized I liked to mow my lawn on my own time schedule, I didn't care if the window curtains facing the street were white or pink. I occasionally I liked to keep the kiddy pool in the driveway overnight or park my boat in front of my house the night before a big fishing trip, and I like to paint the outside of my house whatever color I like. Not what someone else tells me what color it can be. Never ever buy a house with an HOA.
H.O.A.s are designed to keep people like you out. You have to be HighBrow. They expect you to dock your boat in a slip. The only vehicles allowed on the streets are sedans. Uniformity. Good for America. We wouldn't have all of this jive if everyone was uniform.
Or, alternately, buy a house where you agree with the HOA rules.
It's funny all of that occurred to you AFTER living there and knowing what you were buying.
You are the reason people buy into HOAs. Your yard looks lived in! Kiddie pools out!!! tsk tsk tsk.
HOAs are to keep discipline in the neighborhood. Compare a HOA neighborhood to a free for all neighborhood. Yes you are tired. Yet you should have enough discipline to put the pool away. You are teaching blame. When you should be teaching self discipline.
Teach some self discipline instead of blame. Keep your yard in uniform and squared away. Compare non hoa neighborhoods. That is why you bought the house. The neighborhood is clean and in uniform.
Just ban HOA's. You buy the house not the whole damn neighborhood.
I like your last sentence. That is so true.
I think as long as all parties are in agreement then there shouldn't be an issue. Obviously some HOAs are ridiculous, but if done right it just helps protect peoples property values from shitty neighbors
The problem is you may agree with this group of individuals running the HOA but in 10 years that neighbor years back you didn’t see and accidentally cut off and has been silently holding a grudge and just stewing for years. Suddenly is now running your HOA. Then you now all of a sudden start getting letters about yard not up to regulation, your roof hasn’t been replaced every 20 years minimum because someone thought that was a good rule. Your trash can were left out longer then they were supposed to because a loved one had to go to the emergency room at hospital and you took care of them the next day and now you are looking a letter because you owe over $8,000 in penalties and every time you call, or ask a question about these. You do not realize every single contact is costing you over $500 because the HOA lawyer is the person you have been having to talk to.
Now you are just mad and tired and send a check for the now $15,000 you owe then. Thinking you’re finally done. You just want to get away and take the family to your parents house for 2 weeks it’s been only a month since you sent that payment to the HOA but before the revived it. They had file a complaint in civil court and there’s paperwork saying you have a day in court in two days and you just got home.
Just wanting to be done you call and ask what is going on because you paid the money owed. Then they tell you. Well we filed this complaint with the court before receiving your payment and because of this, per the HOA agreement you are now owning an additional $12,000 just in lawyer fees.
Anyway this is how these things happen. Someone usually doesn’t like another and wants them gone. Very rarely are they ever used to protect anyone’s property value but that’s the lie people tell themselves
@@FranklinEdwardsIIIthis is an inside job. I see you must speak from experience. Reminds me of other inside jobs like the private school my children go to did a raffle to win a car…but the car went to a grandmother of a student who had been “volunteering for over 30 years”…..So you know they just made the fake raffle to have everyone raise money to buy her this car. I found out after the fact. Since the grandson of the winner is in my son’s class.
U bought the house; not the whole damn neighborhood. In certain areas, you don't get to ruin it for everyone. In others, you're free. Choose appropriately. Just realize everyone else gets to do the same thing.
This has to be illegal. WTF. The fact that this hasn't been outlawed already is insane. This is just theft.
It happens in CA a lot. Big surprise. They have more power than government. How’d these laws get passed? With no oversight? That’s BS! Who’d have the heart to do this to families. Living through the Biden administration is bad enough.
When people purchase a home they almost NEVER bother to read that HOA contract, it's just another piece a paper at the closing. Problem is, they don't care at the time and if people would actually READ the HOA contract first, they would never make an offer.
Because in reality this is what America is! they value money above All Else! There is no limit to the evil deeds you can do in the pursuit of money in this country as a business or especially as a large corporation!
@@msomething3579But I think it works both ways too. I think that they intentionally make contracts long excessively wordy maybe even attentionally confusing. All in attempts to slide one in on you lol smh. But I do agree it is best to read through a contract or if you can't have a lawyer do it.
No it makes sense
My sons have lived in HOA’s. Both sold the homes they loved to escape the tyranny.
Why did this take 40 years to stop HOAs??
I have never heard a single good thing about an HOA
Lawn care was part of my HOA dues, so I never had to cut the grass. Which was one less chore/expense.
@@sageallure You were paying for it either way. Most likely at a massively inflated price.
@@sageallure Lol, who do you think paid for that?
@@livedreamsg When you dine at a restaurant, aren't you paying more, compared to eating at home? That price isn't just for the food. It's also for the convenience of having someone else cook and serve your meal. A dish that takes 20 minutes to make in a restaurant could take hours to prepare at home, so you're also saving time. As for my HOA dues, they were $31 a month and included lawn care and trash collection. It was a great deal for having a HOA.
@@Shadow__133 Do you think I was oblivious to what my dues were being used for?
Wouldn't live in an HOA neighborhood if you paid me.
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We don't want you here.
Well your presence wouldn’t increase anyone’s home value so no one will pay you to live near them.
Within the past 3 years my HOA pays my water bill, bi-weekly landscaping, painted my front windows, painted my shutters, painted my front door, replaced my roof, fixed my front sidewalk, replaced my front steps railing, repaired water line breaks, resurfaced the entire cement deck around the pool, regular pool maintenance, new pool furniture, and got me a group discount on replacing my windows. What’s even crazier is that my HOA is in this video and my home is in the thumbnail.
Guess the news didn’t do any research before posting this video.
@@SkullKid467 Then you probably live in a 55+, condo, or townhouse community, and/or pay a whopping HOA fee. In my area, the only places with HOA's are condo's, townhouses, trailer parks, and 55+ communities. Monthly HOA fees range from affordable to insane. Oddly enough, the vast majority of neighborhoods don't have HOA's and are just fine, as long as you don't mind individuality over the cookie-cutter monotony of overly-controlled communities. Sure, there's the one-in-a-hundred house with junk cars in the yard or weedy flowerbeds, but it's well worth the chance of one bad neighbor over a committee of small town gestapos telling me my lawn isn't mowed to the correct height or my trash cans are two feet too far to the left.
@@joannesmith2484 this is a townhouse community. It’s not 55+. Our HOA is $350 and that also includes our water utility which is paid by the HOA. I only comment on it because MY HOA is the HOA this news video is talking about. For single family homes with their own yards and no shared amenities there is no need for an HOA. The particular person in this video however owes years worth of HOA dues that are responsible for paying shared amenities and her water utility. All paid for by her neighbors. Unless she bathes is a tub of tears.
Had (past tense) an uncle who moved into an HOA area in Florida. After about a year, he got a notice from the HOA telling him his car could not be parked in his driveway or on the street (outside of his garage) because it was too old ! The car was a low-mileage vehicle, in excellent condition, but because some snoop from the board discovered it was more than 10 years old, it was "unsuitable for public display in his neighborhood". That week he bought the rustiest & cheapest wreck he could find at the junkyard and parked it, without license plates, in front of the HOA President's house. ~ took a few pictures and made enough copies to plaster all over the area. Sold that place within a month and made sure the local news got the whole story for their Sunday real estate section.
The man had “balls”, you have to come up with that idea first.😅
This is exactly why when I bought my 1st (only) home 15yrs ago, I said "NO HOA" stupid realtor wouldn't listen & I had only one other request besides price range 3-4 bed ranch...how hard could that be, but every home attempted to show me--Hoa, I would not go & said I wasn't be cooperative let them do their job. Relator fired, found my own--no HOA property!! Been loving life every since, neighbors don't bother us, we don't bother them & always kind to each other.
Realtors are a holes & full of it too!!!
Was probably just trying to upsell you and thought "oh as soon as they see this house they won't care about HOA".
@@nanook6620 yes so true. It's the same with car sales. No dude, I came here to see & test drive "this car" because that's the one I want, if I cared abt any others I would've said so, asked abt them. I know what I want & what I'm gonna pay, don't try to tell me otherwise, cuz you sure as hell don't my thoughts or be able to change them
If somebody else can dictate what you do with your property, *it's not actually your property.*
Exactly but this is how government works whether at the local or federal level. HOA dues and fines to property taxes and permit fees. Even if you own the property outright, someone with a power complex is going to take it from you a piece at a time.
@@andrewmo49 Property taxes and permit fees are for well defined purposes of safety, education and keeping up infrastructure. Fines for weeds in the lawn or grass too high does not qualify in the same category. It is arbitrary, capricious burden on property owner, specially with the threat of foreclosure.
@@TheVsingh2 "N-No! I own my house!!! I'm not renting it!!! It's t-tax, not rent!!!" big cope
Do you really want people to be able to do whatever they want with property? If I live next door to you and let my property go, lawn, paint, roof, etc, it affects the value of your property.
It isn't your property. Try not paying your property tax. We own nothing in America.
They can’t remove squatters from your home ; but they can do this??!! Some of our laws need rewriting. HOA needs to be removed permanently. Who gets all these people’s money? “ besides attorneys “Who exactly is responsible for the HOA?
Those voted onto the board or a property management company.
I can bet the majority of the "fees" go to paying salaries for the HOA board. I'm sure they don't do all that for free. Homeowners need to know what those salaries are!
@@lucycan6363I’ve been on the HOA and no we don’t get paid for doing it.
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You mean to say you all torture homeowners for free? How generous of you! Smh
@@lucycan6363 Actually ours is extremely tame compared to the rest of these HOAs that I see on TH-cam. No one gets cited for stupid stuff like inappropriate flowers,more than one car, weeds in grass or not appropriate length. It has to be really bad for someone to get cited.
My brother and sister in law are currently looking for a home to buy. I overheard my brother mentioning that he wants to avoid buying a home within a HOA. When I saw this video, I now understand why.
If an HOA evicts you, find out where the president of the HOA or their lawyer lives and move into their house.
Here's a way to stop Hoa foreclosures: "It is no longer legal for a home to be foreclosed on due only to HOA fees or violations." THERE, THAT FIXES IT
Right! Why tf do they need a “study committee”? Sounds like an excuse to allow hoas to keep operating as usual and that they are on the take.
@@mskay7817 🎯💯 bingo! I'd bet a large amount of money that either an HOA lobby or a lobby representing the attorneys that represent HOA's is donating a lot to Mr Brass. He'll end up killing any bill they come up with wait & see, this isn't that hard a problem to solve
or just ban HOA on a national scale.
i've heard of HOA's forcing people to replace garage doors because of a tiny dent. and other trespassing on non HOA property trying to enforce HOA rules.
they're absolute parasites. its just someone bullying a neighborhood for money like a mafia would do.
The HOAs should not be able to levy and collect fines. If people agree to dues, that should be the only money they can collect.
Or ban HOAs and stop these assholes from stealing money and homes from people.
Outlaw HOA'S
Outright ban is too far; basic, nonintrusive HOAs are useful for maintaining the parks, lakes, entrances of neighborhoods. Definitely needs to more regulated, not able to foreclose homes, and there needs to be inexpensive recourse for homeowner-HOA disputes. My HOA is very nonintrusive and has vastly improved our neighborhood and property values, so they're definitely not all evil but I know way too many are.
HOAs should not be outlawed. If they didn't exist the karens would be unleashed into the regular neighborhoods looking out the window ready to call the city when you're a day late taking in your trash barrels or for any other reason. HOAs keep them all in one neighborhood it's best for everyone.
@@jenf1387-It’s unamerican.
@@jenf1387right…. as if Karen’s are worse to deal with then them foreclosing on your home lmao
no
It's one thing if you want to live in a townhouse and have no option except to be under an HOA, but to buy a single-family home with it's own property lines and still agree to an HOA? You'd have to be on life support to choose that. It's been proven over and over and over that every last HOA board is crooked, power-hungry, and vindictive.
Good ol billable hours. Sounds like the state should go after the lawyers AND the HOA
This is why I will NEVER buy a home that is with an HOA.
Absolutely! An HOA is a dealbreaker for me. I will not even consider the house for a second if there's an HOA.
It's not always that simple. Where I live, homes with HOAs are vastly cheaper, about $200k cheaper. Nobody wants to buy into an HOA but sometimes it's a way to home ownership you wouldn't otherwise get renting
@@SweetEssie I'm glad I'm moving back to SC. Out in the country where there are no HOAs and there are plenty of No Trespassing signs that will be ENFORCED
THIS is the correct answer. But so many so-called "americans" are mental-children, they'll sign anything and wreck society for everyone else.
@SweetEssie That's the price you pay to not deal with HOA and I don't mind that. No HOA for me. I was devastated when I found this amazing perfect 4/3 house (as I was downsizing from a 7/5) and it was under HOA. Almost pulled the trigger. But eventually found another 4/3.
I was forced to recently sell my mom's condo due to her health. In the process I found out the condo assoc. has not been audited since 1981. she was paying $380.00 a mo. on a 90k property. HOA's are an excuse for embezzlement, because its regulations are not enforced
NEVER BUY a home within a 'Homeowners Association'....NEVER!!!
Ban HOAs completely
This is why I will never rent or buy in an HOA area.
Who even gave them the power to foreclose? This should have never even been an option for them.
All HOA powers come from the property owners. You can never be subject to an HOA rule that you didn't sign onto, one way or another.
The original covenants are drawn up by the subdivision developer. Each homebuyer MUST sign the HOA agreement, or they can't buy the house.
Exactly
Is this America the home of freedom and justice? This doesn't happen in third world shole countries...
This is what happens when karens get in power
This is happening way to often. My HOA is trying to use this as retaliation for my suit against them for theft by conversation.
Ban HOA's. I heard about how an HOA chopped down multiple healthy 40 year old trees and are set to cut down 70 more trees. They told homeowners that there was going to be tree "maintenance". Three out of five board members voted to chop down the trees. The homeowners are feeling the negative effects of the trees being gone (no shade, wildlife being gone, etc) and they are working to have the three board members fired.
The attorneys in those law offices should be in prison for gouging the public out of millions of dollars
Nah more like the people of the HOA and overreach of power and entitlement
Typical attorneys.
AGreed!
My #1 requirement when buying a home was NO HOA. My neighborhood is great and there is no stupid hoa telling me what I can do with my house.
Same here! Bought in early 2021, and under no circumstances were we going to buy in an HOA. Too many horror stories of harassment and unreasonable fees. This story is even worse than examples I already knew of. I also live in a quiet and nice little neighborhood.
Right! I’m confused why people still move in one
@John , I second emotion this . I reside in a lovely neighborhood and it made buying so much more attractive with the fact I TOO AM NOT in a HOA. Yay me !!
How do people do this knowing the consequences to innocent human beings? These are criminal enterprises working in total view and with governmental sanction.
These people honestly have no souls.
My cousin bought his home in 2008 for $400,000. It’s a McMansion like most homes in metro Atlanta. The HOA president decided to let some random builder come in and build small rental properties in the remaining lots. Property values in the neighborhood plummeted. Now the values of the homes are about $450,000 and steadily dropping after 16 years of investing into your property. Meanwhile the homes in comparable neighborhoods that were built around the same time are at $600-$700,000 and above.
Two rules to live by, Never talk to the police and Never buy a home in an HOA
100%!!!
If you talk to cops point finger at other person first they arrest them even if you are criminal that robbed or attacked them
NAILED IT !
The heck....
The police save us.
If youre being shot at belive me your calling 911😂
Yes there are some bad cops who gets covered everywhere on yhr news because bAd cOpS OMG.
But half and most of them are good cips changing lives
lmk how that works out for you 👮🏽♂️
I will never purchase at home with an HOA. Never.
This is insane….😢 God Bless these homeowners. 🙏
How did such a ridiculous situation come to pass in the first place?
predatory lawyers
Study??? You don't need a "study". You need ACTION.
The people doing the study need enough time for the HOA bribes to come in...
This is true for many things in the US. Lobbying is very similar.
This is stalling on the lawmakers part. They aren't going to do ANYTHING, but they want the appearance of working.
The study is to spur the lobby firms to kick money to the politicians or face a "new law".
@@consciousobserver629 Exactly. Window dressing. Appearances.
Someone needs to stop those crooks
Don't live in those areas
I agree we need to stop the amoral Democrat party.
@@jamesstpatrick8493it’s hard to avoid.
@@youdidntbuildthat47 first you gotta stop your party for knocking up lil kids
@@definitelyMad 👈😂 my party is pushing drag 👸 story hour, porn in school libraries, and puberty blockers. That’s your party, derp. You swung and missed. Want to try again?
I would never move to an HOA controlled house.
I would NEVER purchase a house that was subject to an HOA.
HOA's should be banned nationwide!!
Buy a home in a HOA you're asking for troubled..HOA's should be abolished..
Lots of people love HOAs. They keep property values higher because everyone's property is well maintained and the landscaping is done. Just don't buy a home in one if you want to grow weeds and let the paint peel.
@@willieverusethis HOAs change their laws/rules depending on how the feel and who they wish to kick out. I have heard of stories about people changing rules on fence height, and landscaping as a way to force people out. It's not right.
@Mercenary-1914 there should be tighter regulations around hoa's but im perfectly fine with my neighbors being fined for not maintaining their lawn.
@@objective_evaluation I agree with that. "Fined for not maintaining lawn"...I am talking about when someone get a certain tree type or a tree height, or cut their shrubs a certain way...They fine them. Making things up as they go. One year shrubs can be 5 feet high...Then the next year they lower it to 4.5 Feet....stuff like that.
Everyone worrying about everyone else, deal with yourself and leave your neighbors alone
This is where the term “buyer beware” comes from.
Never, I repeat, NEVER, purchase a home in an HOA community.
I am so glad that people are fighting against HOAs.
I never understood why people buy a house in an HOA. I told my realtor to NEVER show me a house in one.
In my area it's almost impossible to find a house that ISNT in an HOA, you have to go far out from town, which doesnt work for everyone
You must have been looking at older homes because most neighborhoods built after 2000, have HOA's.
@@sageallurethat’s not true! It depends on what state the house was built in. We have plenty of neighborhoods in Long Island, New York and upstate New York with newly built homes & no HOAs!
Buyers do your homework while searching for homes !
I moved out of the city years ago because they started to pop up here in Australia, it was just as well my parents needed help as it gave me the best reason to leave the city for good. I lived in one place with HOA and it was a ruddy pain in the butt, I’m disabled there are things I simply cannot do, but they demanded that we swept our driveways everyday every time autumn came around, I love the autumn season I love seeing the leaves as they blanket the world ready for winter. We were not allowed to use leaf blowers to clear the leaves, they stated that they must be swept up and binned and not placed in a composting pile.
I was NOT going to waste what Mother Nature gave to me, and what I do in my own yard was non of their dam business. My parents ended up selling the house because like me they hated dealing with them, they ended up selling at a loss just to get rid of the problem HOA had one job make sure the security gates worked at all times, that was a joke. They bought the house to rent out, the realestate kept putting in tenets that damaged the place, so after the last tenet was evicted and they had to fix up over $10,000 AUS in damages I moved in but we dumped the estate agent and I paid directly into the house account every fortnight it was working great until a new board of dictators came into control of the HOA up until then nobody had any issues with them, they kept the gates in working order and that was it. The new dictators took over and everything got very messy very quickly. My Parents were the 5th house to be sold within 6 months of the new HOA dictators, that’s how bad it got.
So nope you could not pay me enough to live in any HOA area. I loved living there it use to be so nice and quiet.
New neighborhoods actually have rules built into the agreement by the builder that literally forbids ever disbanding the HOA
They don’t need a study - simple rule - prohibit them from excessive fees and foreclosures - pass a law . This is outrageous !
Yip... the mafia would be more kind.
not enough they will find loopholes. ERASE their iron grip monopoly by passing law you can opt out at any point and time without fine or penalties from this date forward!
This is by design to take people houses. This is one reason I’ll never get in a HOA
There's a damn good reason houses in HOA neighborhoods are lower-priced than non-HOA houses. If there's no shared community space like a pool, a basketball court, or a playground (things that require routine upkeep), there's no need for an HOA. Most of 'em should be disbanded permanently.
I've never understood why anyone would pay 100's of thousands of dollars so someone else can dictate what you can do, never buy a house in an HOA neighborhood
Racism.
They work. Home values are better in HOAs.
@@rajbeekie7124 Maybe, but it comes at a price
I cannot understand buying a home. Making the mortgage payment, then making another hefty payment for the pleasure of having someone tell me what I can and cannot do on the property I’m paying the mortgage for.
Exactly
Seriously what is even the point! It's basically an apartment property manager on steroids. And people just let it happen.
@@cadenceglass8809 I will never get it.
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Foolish paranoid people encouraged HOAs in subdivisions. Worried about property values and who their neighbors can be. It has now become a nightmare for some. Paying those fees is yet another mortgage that some can't afford leading g to loss of property.
and then lose it because you used the wrong paint or left your trash cans out.
Absolutely NEVER purchase a home in an HOA. Never. Never. Never.
How the hell could this even happen to begin with? GA needs to do better.
it's a disease that has spread all over the US.
Down right criminal hoa and the state for allowing this.
Exactly. Ask a Native American how the gov't did them wrong.
White Greed, deal with it ninjas!🤲🏼💵😲
Politicians of both parties want the the 'racist senior' vote and the only way they can ensure they get it is if they allow the 1 remaining legal form of racial segregation: HOAs.
Sounds like those lawyers were part of the issue. Name names please!
That’s normal, by the time the lawyers have to step in things have gone on for too long. There’s no such thing as cheap lawyers and someone has to absorb those costs. HOA’s don’t have a special pool of money where they can just throw it at lawyers. SOMEONE has to bare those expenses. It’s usually going to be the at fault party.
How are HOAs even legally allowed to be a thing in the first place? It's insane.
We just moved to a new home with NO HOA! It's like screaming we are debt-free!
I literally have it in my homeowners contract that my house is NEVER allowed to join an HOA. You need an attorney to get it done, but yeah do it!
Not true
GA law would disagree with that
Your lawyer robbed you lol. No one can force you to join an HOA if you didn't buy into it originally.
Homeowners contract with who? The financing bank who holds the title? Or, a HOA?
Not how that works. No one can be forced to "join an HOA". These communities must be planned from the start. Nice try with your weird story though.
There's a war on home ownership by the working class in this country.
This is one of the tools.
No… the war is with the companies who employ you not paying you fair wage to afford homeownership… Your employer tells you what you are worth to them by paying you. They think you are not worth a home… but they’d rather have us fight each other. HOAs are just power hungry neighborhood residents that like to bully people they don’t like with trivial bs fines until they take everything.
Right. But the thing is people were all for it because it kept “certain” people out. Now it’s come back to bite people in the butt. Smh
@@Kuttie03 So True!
As with most things that so many have been trying to warn them about.
I am trying not to smirk or say "I told you so", when horrendous actions by people towards me is suddenly done to them, and I have tried to be the voice of the canary in the coal mine but like the canary, no listens until the canary is dead.
I am working on an exposition that shows how the Affordable Housing Contractor Scheme and the Wall Street / Investors residential buying scheme are working symbiotically with the current state of the Occupy Wall street turned homeless crisis that is leading to Criminalization of "homelessness" which is actually under the category of "Transient" with the status of being "At Large" to LE.
If a person lives in a monthly motel or with a loved one, they are considered transient and unless they have called the sheriff and reported there current location, they are at large.
Only a deed, mortgage, or lease (or official letter of residency) allows people to get the RealID , have a bank account, etc.
Once laws punish people for not having an instrument of residential proof, Landlords (wall street) can charge any amount they want and people will pay.
YOU WILL OWN NOTHING, AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY.
@@ronaldhudson169 if owning nothing would make a person happy shouldn’t we all strive to own nothing?
I lived on a HOA neighborhood, sold the house and will never own a HOA run house ever again.
i"M IN Canada, we have condo boards and strata councils, these american HOA's are like Nazi's.
Lawmakers please help - HOA is more than the mafia
the mafia is more cilvil than these HOA thugs
"HOA" is the "trickle down" mafia. Everything that's dead wrong with the country.
I bet the HOA is definitely worse than the mafia. The HOA will break your legs if you don’t pay on time for sure. They’ll definitely threaten your family too.
They are much worse. At least the mafia had some scruples and reason to exist.
@@Shadow__133 Communist HOA,
STUDY COMMITTEE? Any politician who voted for this in lieu of actually doing their jobs needs to resign- yesterday.
That is the same exact thing I thought. Just a COMMITTEE!!
Yeah, that’s not always terrible. I don’t know anything specific about Georgia, but in my state and I know in many others, the legislature is only in session for a few months each year, and by May many legislatures have completed or nearly completed the session until the next year. The study committee can do its work while the legislature is not in session, and hopefully by the time next year’s session opens, the committee’s findings can inform new legislation that will be introduced.
If it’a true that Georgia’s legislative session is nearly over, then you can bet that lots of people will be watching what happens when the next session opens, and how the committee’s report will be handled. People will be expecting new legislation.
@@c.r.chandler5905:: Local Government "LAWMAKERS" Where Are You???
I think a study committee is definitely needed before a law is passed. I think some of what we heard from the homeowners in this report was bull.
@@Tes7000 found the HOA board member.
"Some outside group come take that away..." Subtext: "That's *our* job... not some HOA's." He doesn't really object to it, he just wants it in *his* hands.
I would NEVER buy property that has an HOA
Federal government needs to ban HOA indefinitely in all states
the fed gov. needs to e banned al well.
The Feds need to stay out of it
The feds don't have the authority to ban HOAs, fortunately.
This HOA is absolute nonsense. Some person with WAY to much power ruins a persons life over a few weeds in the yard? And is allowed to do that? What the hell is wrong with those people? And why is that not stopped today? Politicians getting lobbied by Lawyers who make a fortune of the backs of working people? What a shame!
HOA's are run by a board comprised of voluntary owners. All owners are able to run for the board every year. Glad I could help.
@@jlam3927"glad I could help"🥴what U "help with"... U must be one of those "thoughtful volunteers"🤔🤨🤪😂🤣😂🤣🤣
'run for the board' = TRY to become board members?
@@jlam3927 lol You only helped demonstrate how ignorant one is to take part in an HOA.
@@jlam3927 um yeah, thats been shown in tv and film for years, so who are you helping if its general knowledge in culture by now?
The legislature is moving too slowly.
It's racketeering!
I totally agree
HOAs should all be abolished. How are you going to tell me what I can do on my property I paid for?
I thought you have to sign a contract when you buy a house within an HOA???
Good for Georgia lawmakers. Hopefully the homeowners will get some protection from these predators.
HOA maffia.
\Legalized Mafia. Doors were opened for this kind of consumer "Rip-Off" by Republican Deregulation. The Voters must start taking notice of Local Government Elections and Vote In Mas Voter Turnout at all Local Elections... "All Politics Is Local". Vote Local Always!!!
Don't tarnish the Mafia like that 😂
My HOA tried this with me Westfield Terra Katy TX I fought them and won their lawyer fees came out to 3k over $50. They waited so long to try and come for me and thought I didn’t keep my records. When I proved all the payments… I never heard from the shady attorney again.
Why didn't you countersue for all the misery and anxiety they caused you?
@@smartaz4u For one, if you sue and HOA, you are suing yourself. In some states if you lose you have to pay the HOAs attorney fees. It's best to settle these problems immediately. if it's $50, PAY it, THEN fight it.
Time to clean up the corruption!!😡😡
Sue them
When looking for a house my very first question is "is there HOA?" If the answer is yes I don't even want to know anything else about it and move on.
This is criminal!
Republican Deregulation opened up the doors for De-Facto Legalized Crime. The hard working Private-Sector Taxpayers should realize that Local Government Elections affect their Quality of Daily Life the most, but they do not turn out and Vote as much in Local Elections..
Exactly what the Native Americans fought against, criminals taking their land, but Manifest Destiny.
Yep. Its basically back-door racial segregation.
The first thing to do when you find an HOA in a neighborhood is scratch off your list of places to live
One more reason why I would NEVER buy a house in an HOA neighborhood.
HoA is insane. Penalize for everything. One time the garden hose wasn't wrap correctly and fined us for $200. And another was because a vehicle was parked right outside our home for more than 72 hours for a fine of $500 and guess what's the best part? Wasn't even our car!
Why did you buy in an HOA neighborhood? I've only ever heard bad things about HOAs. Are there any good things that come with an HOA?
Most neighborhoods with community amenities like pools, tennis courts, basketball courts, etc, are managed by HOA. The HOA dues typically go toward maintaining those communal areas. They also have a committee that sets rules on how the houses in that community are to be maintained. Used to be the committee members were residents from the neighborhood. I think the idea is that everyone pitches in to help keep the neighborhood clean, safe, and ensure that property values are protected.
So they can be good things if the committee is reasonable. But they can go on power trips and be so entitled that they get out of control. I used to own a home in an HOA subdivision. Nice place to live. But I once got a violation notice that my trash cans were visible from the street. The bylaws also state that the lawns need to be maintained, and the there was an empty lot next to me. So I told them I’ll move my trash cans into the garage if they deal with the empty lot next to me with overgrown grass and weeds encroaching into mine. I had already spent a lot of time and money rehabbing my lawn, but that empty lot made it a battle I could never stop fighting. To their credit, they did.
My dad had a less forgiving experience. HOA came in and told him he was in violation of the bylaws because his window shutters were the wrong color. Crazy thing is, he never painted them. They were that color for over 20 years. He argued with them over it, and ultimately won since they were that color before the bylaws were updated. Then later their HOA was dissolved. I think too many folks were having problems with them, and filing complaints.
So, under the right management, an HOA can benefit the community. But they clearly have too much power if they can foreclose on your home! That shouldn’t be possible! Sounds like these issues are from HOA’s being managed by outside entities where their bottom line is all that matters. I would think most internally managed HOAs would have more empathy for their neighbors.
@@von4297Well stated! HOAs can be unbearable under management by certain personnel. We have an HOA under “Trish” who was picky about the absolute minute detail and it felt like the home we were living in wasn’t ours, like we’re renting it. When Trish moved on, there was a lot of neighborhood cheering and rejoicing, like the end of a HOA fuhrer.
Welcome to Free America 😂
Omg they tried that with me and I went off . The car wasn’t even our guest . Sick .
I said 30 years ago that I would never move into a home with a HOA.
HOA NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND HOME OWNERS SITUATIONS .....
HOAs attract every sociopath in a neighborhood while everyone else is busy with work, kids, life. Would NEVER buy where there is one again.
The worst thing about HOA's is that if you do take them on, your neighbors will not have your back.
Only if they’re going through it too then they’ll help fight on your behalf.
HOA's are ridiculously out of control! It is a complete sham!
Why not make a law to limit ridiculous uncontrolled attorney fees. I paid $200 for 20 mins call to an attorney to get an opinion about a case. That would be $600 per hour. Absolutely disgusting 🤮
Talk about a shakedown! I would never live somewhere with an HOA.
In Florida, there was ONE law firm filing about 70% of the foreclosures in the state. Upon investigation, they were found to be a foreclosure mill, and put out of business.
My home is mortgage free and my HOA fees were paid however the president decided, by herself, that a special assessment for each property owner was necessary. The bill was sent to the wrong email and because I did not associate with residents I didn’t receive any information. I was served with foreclosure notice. The attorneys fee and other fees cost me $19,000. The best part is that our bylaws clearly state that the HOA cannot foreclose because of ANY missed fee but the judge literally refused to read the governing documents.
Appeal.
Counter sue them for breach of contract
HOA fees: pay someone so they can better sue you.
Never buy a property requiring joining an HOA and never join an HOA if one forms in your neighborhood.
homeowners association needs to be disbanded, should never have been legal in the first place
Never never never buy a house with HOAs.