1984 C10 Project ---- LS Swap Part 3 (Plumbing The Fuel System)
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This video helped me more than I can tell you. Had no idea how to get the lines to my "stock" sending unit on my ss monte carlo ls swap. thank you!
Good to hear. Happy it helped. Good luck on your project.
Thanks for taking time to show part numbers and showing your work. Guys like me appreciate it.
I like your change from electrical tape to clear packing tape!
Works better
hey thank you for those part numbers got my gas tank got my sending unit got a pump got my lines in now time to get time to put it together and hear it run 4 weeks into swap hour drive to work on it got a kid and life happens thing is watching these vid's can encourage and i'm not in a rush because theres to much to mess up and everything has to be right because it's a massive truck and when i hit the mud i dont want no mis haps learning alot from these just wanted to say thank you!!
Where did u find the part numbers etc ive looked on the fb page no luck
Its funny there are a bunch of ls swap videos on TH-cam some are almost professionally done! With that being said Lonnie is the most informative.
Thank you for that kind comment. I try to break it down to where anyone can understand it. Lord knows I need things done like that. Please share.
Just finished installing these exact fittings on my GM1C tank I'm using. Thanks for the info and video Lonnie!
No problem. Happy it helped.
Do u have part numbers
EAR-AT165006ERL
EAR-AT165056ERL
Dave's Custom Crap thanks bro
Great overview! Thanks for sharing...
Appreciate the info..very informative 💪
Thanks for showing everything how is done
Your welcome. Thanks for watching.
about to do the same thing on my 94 nissan 300zx na to tt swap =]
this video helped allot. esp with the hardline to braded conversion
preprodigy thanks. Please share the video if it helps
Great man hope my home near you i will learn more ..but im in Dubai
hey just trying to help-- use rubber fuel line pieces in your clamps to protect the lines from vibrating in the clamps. also, dont let the hard lines rest on any bolts or rivets. vibration can rub a hole in your hard lines. also where your flex lines meet the hard lines at the AN fittings, spread them open so they dont rub on each other. also on the fuel filter, fab up a bracket and use a big hose clamp to isolate it from vibrating. it can cause the hard lines to fatigue and spring a leak. great videos and i like what you are doing, keep posting up as you can. thanks
Thanks man for the info. I'll use that
I saw your post on ls engine swaps and solutions and thought to myself I knew that name from somewhere, now o remember where. lol
lol yeah it's kind unique
Love your info and tips. Saw that u used an in-tank fuel pump if I’m correct. Didn’t see any info on that. What kind is it. Did it bolt right in any modifications to sending unit to read fuel level. Hopefully u can help with these questions.
I hope to have a garage like yours one day to work on my c10
cheers mate your video enlightened me in my own procces, I have a video series on ls swap for f body 75 to 1981. I will give you a shout out on my new video regarding fuel pump
Thanks. Just got yourself a new subscriber
Thanks mate I have found all your videos helpfull and informative
how did u connect the tailpig of the sending unit on the outside? the grey and green to be exact
thanks, good info here
Hey bro you got a video of the gas pump install?
No, I'm using a Spectra sending unit that has a "flying lead" for ground to chassis and a two pin connector for power to pump (grey wire) and fuel level sending unit (purple wire). It's the mating connector for this that I'm having problem locating.
John Medina oh OK. Yeah it's Dorman 85391
Lonnie's Garage Thanks Lonnie, your videos have helped me a ton!
thanks a lot bud!! the volume on my phone isn't very loud so there's a lot I couldn't hear..but thanks again I really appreciate your response back..
Hey man, I honestly like these videos better than the tractor videos. I was like "What the hell" at first but i like these a lot more. Looking forward to more updates!
I like how you explain things, well done mate
Thank you sir I solderd mine yesterday
On the wiring which is which the black is ground the grey is power and purple is fuel level?
20min to find out it's a vent tube. Sheeeeeesh you guys.
If all you got from this video was the vent tube then you my friend aren’t paying very much attention. Thanks for the view tho.
Hi. Been watching your vids. Do the Fragola fittings fit both 3/8 and 5/16 hoses and did you use those 2 different size hoses on your feed and return?
I used 6an fittings to make both lines 6an. The fitting will be two different sizes
Great info sir!! Sir Do you have part number for the pump and the sending unit that you used? I tried your Facebook but it’s not going anywhere I think the link is dead? Thank you so much sir
It’s a walbro 255 in tank pump. The sending unit and tank is for an 87 r10 pickup. It’s the first year they did fuel injection. The tank has a little sump in the bottom of it that lets the fuel pump sit in so the gas doesn’t leave it when stopping or turning or taking off
Lonnie my walbro fuel pump came with spade type connectors and the r10 fuel pump had small square plugs no way to plug and play did you have to wires and connect them to the inside plug and I'd like to thank you for all of your very helpful videos sir.
Emmanuel Dotrey I depined and resoldered the pumps connector so it would plug into the sending unit
Great work.
Ty
great work Lonnie!
Thank you
Nice video! learned a couple things!
Thanks. Im happy it helps
NEED SOME HELP. I hired a guy to drop an LS 5.3 into my 84 C10. After 7 months i took it back. Engine was in but nothing else was put together correctly. There was a leak in one of the tanks so I replaced both tanks, with new sending units. I also sprung for a new selector valve. The original sending units were three ports. The new sending units are also 3 ports. I found good diagrams on how to connect the supply and return lines to the selector valve. Two questions. 1. what to I do with the vapor lines coming out of both sending units? Diagrams are hard to find for those. 2. Is one fuel pump, between the selector valve and engine enough? Thanks in advance.
1st questions answer. You can run a small hose from the vent lines and add a small filter on the end. Just place it somewhere out of the way.
2nd questions answer. It will cost a lil more but I would use the 87 sending unint and tank. It has a baffle in the bottom of the tank to help the fuel from leaving the pump. I would run a couple walbro 255 intank pumps.
Love the video. Great detail.
I have an 85 c10 and I have some questions. Think you could talk over the phone?
Great video !! For the hard fuel lines where do I buy them fitting to 6 an
Great video. I've been trying to figure out this part. Thanks for the video.
What kind of fuel pump did you use?
aren't you supposed to only tighten the compression fitting certain amount of times? no super tight or it may leak??
hey thanks bud like your videos appreciate the help
No problem
My ls1 is returnless , so should I just do the out of tank fuel pump or plug up return line?
Lonnie, how's that c10 doing this year? You think you would ever swap the ls for a lt gen v?
It’s doing great gonna keep it like this
hey Lonnie ..do u have the part numbers for the parts u use ..
Yes all the parts are in a pdf file on my Facebook page All Around Kustoms
good stuff
Looking good!!!
Thank u for the info brother but where did u put the vent line I have a 1988 Chevy Caprice don’t know what to do with the vent line
John Paul Garrido just put a hose with a small micro filter on it and tuck it away where rain won't get into it
What fuel sending unit did you use? along with fuel pump? thanks again
great work Lonnie!
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How did you wire your fuel pump?
I am using a Single Fuel Pump Harness and Relay Kit 30 Amp but my wires are getting hot. I need your help on wiring for fuel pump.
Pepe Madrid thanks. I've got a wiring video series before these videos. If you want to scroll through my videos you're more than welcome to it will show you how I wired the fuel pump.
Nice video. What part # did you use for the vent?
Nice video! Very informative. do you have a part number for the pigtail the plugs in to the sending unit?
Brad Williams I'll look when I get off work
I checked all his videos, he never shows what pigtail was used
Would all ‘87 R10 tanks have baffles? I was looking on RockAuto and the Spectra tanks all said “carburetor” for supported system. Other brands didn’t specify at all
I have the 87 r10 pickup tank and sending unit made by spectra. It has the baffle in it.
Lonnie's Garage (Puppetkicker) thank you!
Do i have to use the steel lines? Cant i just run the stainless steel braided line throughout the whole truck for the fuel? With a russel fuel filter?
I'm currently doing a k10 ls swap. Just wrapped up the fueling portion. I'll be uploading a new video soon showing everything I used including filter will all 6an hose.
Lonnie's Garage (Puppetkicker) PLEASE DO!! Lol thats what i got right now. You kept the 4x4 or?
Should be the same running two talk????
hey Lonnie i am a bodyman/painter guy and had a couple paint job ideas to share. if you are not after a really nice paint job. first i have done some with 6 in foam rollers and rustoleum in a quart can. second did 3 cars with www.montana-cans.com/en/spray-cans/ the black and gold lines are easy to work with. best to do these early on a morning , it will help cut down on striping from the spray patterns. they are high solids and cover really well. a six pack of cans is about 50 bux. any color you want, check out their color charts. they also have jumbo size flat black cans too . if the cans dont spray well, warm them in a bucket of hot water first. they also have spray caps from pencil width to baseball.
Thanks for the info. I'm going to shoot for a nice paint job. I'm putting too much work into this for me not to go all the way with it
sweet! nothing wrong with shiny paint :)
Lonnie, your C10 is done but I'm following your lead for my '85 C10 and it's all going well. However I'm unable to locate the correct mating connector to the Walbro fuel pump. Were you able to locte it or did you have to change connectors? Thanks, John
John Medina are u talking about the plug that is on the sending unit that hooks to the fuel pump?
How did you get the tank strap around the gas tank far enough to start tightening the nut?
Use a jack lol
Great video! Can you post the part #’s for the fittings and the Fuel Sending Unit. Are you running a 255 fuel pump?
I've got a fully detailed parts list with numbers and prices along with where I got them from on my Facebook page All Around Kustoms
I don't have facebook can you add the parts list here??
Did you use a efi fuel tank? I just got a new one for a 87 r10 with baffles now need to figure out what fuel pump and sending unit that will fit. I have a 84 C10 shortbed with a 2000 5.3 so I need no less than 60 psi of fuel
Pressure
Look at my Facebook page. I've got parts list on it.
Lonnie's Garage (Puppetkicker) ok. Tku Sir
Oops I forgot I don’t have a FB
Does the sending unit feed the pump power? Or is the pump wired independently?
another great video, what sending unit / in tank fuel pump are you running?
87 r10 pickup tank and sending unit with a walbro 255 intank pump
@@LonniesGarage enjoyed your entire video series so much, and thank you for the reply Lonnie, just a quick follow up, why didn't you use a stock fuel pump meant for the vehicle that the engine came out of, like a 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 in my case
If you don't mind Mr asking what year fuel tank is that and what sending unit is this
@@mikekrasulak399 it’s a walbro 255 pump intank. The tank is for an 87 r10 Chevy
@@LonniesGarage thanks,in the process of swapping my 84
Hey Lonnie I’m doing an LS swap on my ‘80 C-10 Deluxe step side, and I was wonder is your tank setup with the baffles in it for efi and how did you extend the pump lower into the tank?
Robert Coffey the tank and sending unit is for an 87 r10 pickup. That's when it was switching over to efi so it has the set-up
PuppetKicker ok thank you Lonnie
how do you know if you need to change the fuel filter or not?
What do you mean?
why didnt you install a filter/regulator? ive been told its needed with an LS motor to maintain preasure.
SwooPnSalaD the filter is on the truck. I showed what kind I was gonna use and it also had a Regulator on the intake
The Wix part#33737 for Corvettes. is the filter i was talking about. its a combination of both filter/regulator.
Where to get compression fitting the O ring
What o ring
@@LonniesGarage you put inside the fitting circle metal like O ring
What wire on the fuel sending unit did u connect to the power supply and gage wire?
Gauge is purple and power is gray.
PuppetKicker thank you sir!
Can I use rubber fuel hose with those style an fittings
It needs to be efi hose.
Does the fuel filter go on the return or the fuel feed line?
It will go on the side that is pushing gas to the motor. No need to have it on the return if all the trash has already went to the motor.
Do you have a Part number for that sending unit?
Dorman 692027
could I use braided line up to the rail or does it have to have some section be hard line?
grannationalboy I tried to use as much hard-line as possible. the reason is because the more steel braided hose you have the more chance you have later down the line of the rubber inside of that hose collapsing
Lonnie's Garage thanks your video explained it right after you commented. I will definitely do this set up when I ls my 84 c10
22:05 do you have the part number of the plugin you ordered ?the plug to the fuel pump that comes out the sending unit
finessin 1000 I have a full parts list on my Facebook
did you use part number 220106-BL for the 5/16 hose also?
tunesmithus I think I show it in this video. I haven't looked at this video in a while
Lonnie's Garage well in the video you only showed that part number 220106-BL for the hose in fitting. So I assumed you that part number for the 3/8 and 5/16 hose ends to mate to the fuel pump sending unit.
Lonnie's Garage I got both of the AN fitting part numbers for the fuel sending unit just tryin to get the hose end parts correct so I can order everything
can or did you use stock 87 sending unit and just put the 255 pump on that sending unit?
jason floyd yes. I explained that in the video. You will need to depin the stock fuel pump plug that came on the sending unit and put the one that comes with the pump.
Hey lonnie I have a 87 3500 dually since its already fuel injected. Will it be enough psi to do a ls swap?
No. If I'm correct they only produced like 15 or 16 psi and then it was regulated down some. You can check to see if your tank has the baffled bottom and if so replace your fuel pump with a walbro 255 or a walbro 400
@@LonniesGarage great thanks a lot that walbro 255 pump should fit my tank if it has the baffled bottom right?
But how would u run it if u were running two tanks?????
Lonnie what about the gas tank where did you bought the tank????
I've got a full parts list on my Facebook page All Around Kustoms
Alright is that original tank & what’s the pump fit ?
1987 R10 pickup tank and sending unint with a 255 walbro intake pump
@@LonniesGarage I have duel tanks I’d like to keep them
Is there any way to plumb the duel tanks
I moved that shifter back & forward mine didn’t line up it’s 4x4. So I had to take drastic measures it’s welded on😂
Hey Lonnie are u using a 16 gallon tank ? That wat I ordered on eBay but every sending unit i try is to tall for it . Is there any tricks to bend it with out penching the lines and want fuel pump are u using.
I used an 87 model r10 tank and sending unit with a walbro 255 intank pump
@@LonniesGarage thanks buddy I appreciate it very much.
Why not just softline the entire way?
That’s what I plan on doing. I ditched all the hard line on my 5.3 and C10
Because with rubber lines u always have a chance of them collapsing. The less you have the less you worry about.
would running steel braided lines from the pump to the intake be ok ?
What you charge to wire up a 5.3 & 4L60 in a 86 gmc
Sorry man I don't have the time. If u watch the videos I show exactly how to do it.
@@LonniesGarage I understand same here I been working on it for 2 years
What fuel pump did you use ? Part number?
Walbro 255 intank pump
do you know if the tank from a 96 Chevy fits a c10?
kike ramon. Use 87 tank it has fuel injected that year plus it direct bolt in
do you thinm the 87 r10 tanks fit the older model k series? idk if there is a difference between 2wd and 4wd
Brian davis I think they have the big square tanks at the back if I'm correct
roger! i know they do have the battle bags but the difference is the newer ones are baffled tanks and the lock ring is different bc of fuel injection
What compression fitting are those
Chad Gardee they are an fittings. It shows part numbers in the video
Is this for a dual tank
I swapped to a single tank but this setup can be the same just have to wire it to the tank switch over switch.
Is that a dual fuel tank truck?
Yes it is but I'm only running one tank.
@@LonniesGarage I have two tanks the. Driver side doesn't work , 1984 GMC what tha ?
Are you using your original gas tanks???
Im having problems installing the inline msd pump
Julio Cifuentes I'm sorry I don't know anything about that particular pump.
What sending unit did you use for your swap
I tell what sending unit I used in this video. 87 r10 sending unit
I mean a tank with no baffel , and put a electric punp inside???
It is baffled.
ok thanks man thank you a lot also will that sending unit support the psi recommended for the fuel support
Yes the that is the year they came out with efi fuel systems
Man thank u I'm doing the same thing on a 85 c 10 I appreciate your help
cant you just use efi rated rubber hose. and run through the steel lines.
clayton miller Yeah I could have but I wanted the steel braided look lol
clayton miller I wanted to use as little as possible of the steel braided hose due to the thought that it would be one less worry later down the road for the rubber inside of it to collapse. I used mostly steel stock line.
i will be purchasing an msd atomic kit. thabk osh i watch your video. and now know i need a 1987 fuel tank. what part number fuel pump did you use on your efi sending unit. thanks for info.
clayton miller walbro 255 intank fuel pump
Did you have to modify the walbro pump to fit the sending unit?
@ lonnie's garage .hey what's up bro .good info. had a question. don't no if i missed it.but where do I get the power to power up the fuel pump. does it have to be from a specific spot or will any 12+ volt power source do. also thanks a lot. ur videos are dope
andrew M you will need to run it from a relay. The relay will get its power from the pcm.
+Lonnie's Garage .ok koo that's bro 👍
+Lonnie's Garage how's it going . did u ever find out .what was the pink.or tan wire that ran from the bulk head to the fuel tank .i think it's the last wire om the bulk head
andrew M pink
+Lonnie's Garage yea
What fuel pump did u use? Do u have a video of it?
K30 Krawler yes there is videos on it but it is a walbro 255 intank fuel pump
Lonnie's Garage and what sending unit did u use? From 88-91?
K30 Krawler it was a kit from rockauto.com it's the 87 r10 fuel tank and sending unit
@@LonniesGarage evething is here for part # on spectra prémiun ecat.spectrapremium.com/vehicles?year=1987&make=Chevrolet&model=R10&language=en
What fuel pump do you have
I've got a full parts list in the files section on my Facebook page. Look up All Around Kustoms
what is the gas tank and sending unit from originally?
1987 r10 pickup
@@LonniesGarage does it mount with the stock mounting bracket and straps?
ecat.spectrapremium.com/vehicles?year=1987&make=Chevrolet&model=R10&language=en
Hey man what sending unit are you using for this setup?
Stock sending unit for a 1987 r10 pickup tank
@@LonniesGarage what pump
With proper cutting tool you wouldn’t have to use tape or have your ends flare.
Is that a efi tank or just a regular tank?
Tiger Enos its a tank for an 87 r10 pickup. That's the first year they went to throttle body. It has the bafel in the bottom for the pump to set down in so the gas doesn't slosh away from it.
Which fuel pump you use can you give me part number please
Walbro 255
@@LonniesGarage thank you this is for ls swap correct? For engine 5.3
Cn i use a 84 c10 fuel tank for efi???
Yes BUT it does not have the sump in the bottom. I would recommend that you use the 87 r10 tank. It's made so that the pump sets down in a dip at the bottom of the tank so that gas don't slosh away from it.
hey buddy what fuel pump and fuel tank did you use?
It's a walbro 255 fuel pump and a tank for an 87 R10 pickup
+PuppetKicker The Manic Mechanic I didn't see the adapter plug on Rock Auto for the FG156A sending unit & the Walbro 255 fuel pump. Are you able to assist?
+ClevertymeZ u will have to look on summit and eBay. I give part numbers in this video