The Nohara Hill Murders
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I dunno, i wouldn’t advise my friend to go anywhere that was infamous for sexual assaults, whether they brought someone else along or not.
That's why I was thinking they might be foraging prostitutes??
Yeah they were foraging for fresh cherries... Not bramble berries.
Exactly. And it was her husband no less!
And why aren't authorities doing anything to break these groups up?? They should be walking up and down the trails to deter crime at the very least.
How does murder have a statute of limitations? That's crazy
It’s Japan not usa
They have since changed their laws. No more statute of limitation on murder.
@@pfadiva I'm glad to know that. Thank you.
I am dumbfounded That many countries seem to have a " statute of limitations" on serious crimes - particularly murder! As far as I know my country, Australia, doesn't have such a thing- these women's tragic deaths should never be forgotten! R.I.P 😢
Im Australian too so I googled, and this is the first to come up from lyonslaw "Each Australian territory has a statute of limitations. The set time limitations for most of the summary offenses within the Australian jurisdictions range from 6 months to 12 years. However, there is no statute of limitation in Australia for serious indictable offenses dealt with in the Supreme Court."
There is no Statue of Limitations in the UK. Although it would be rare for someone to be prosecuted for minor crimes years later.
We have no statute of limitations on murder here in the US as far as I know. I think its ridiculous that there are countries that put a statute of limitations on murder.
India 🇮🇳 thankfully doesn't have this ridiculous rule either .
Laws differ by state.
Can’t get my head around the fact that the husband suggested she go to what is known as a potentially dangerous location in the first place 🤔
Jesus, that ending was brutal. Having a statute of limitations on murder to me is wild. If they have DNA left from however they found the killer’s blood type, they could possibly find the perpetrator with genetic genealogy now. So sad that it’s just closed with no answers for the families of the victims.
I heard about this case from KyotoRobo. I have a feeling the killer might still be out there but if they have killed since these murders I have no clue. This is why the police should DNA test the samples found on the women because if there were more murders committed by this person outside the prefecture then Japan has another serial killer in the midst.
Yes ,also covered by Lazy Masquerade
kyotorobo fan in the wild!
laws in japan surrounding crimes of this nature during this time period makes them so frustrating. i dont even know if they wouldve had the means to test the samples either, but correct me if im wrong.
I love KyotoRoboto!
these two should do a collab sometime 🙏
Same
I honestly love the voice of the person that narrates these videos. They should think about doing audio books…
Me to i love her voice . So relaxing
Completely agree.
For real. I tend to prefer deep male voices when listening to these videos (I don’t know why) but her voice is so calming and her delivery is excellent, I love hearing her
At least here in the US, it doesn't pay very well. She may already have a day job she likes. Probably does this as a passion project. She really is excellent!!
Agreed ❤
I can't believe they have a statute of limitations on murder there. It just seems suspicious to me that her husband would suggest she go to a potentially dangerous place, even with someone else.
He was sick of her shit. Figured he'd give it a shot.
That was my first thought, as well...
I think he had something to do with it
It wasn't Keiko's husband who encouraged her to go bracken picking in the first place. It was Eiko who invited Keiko to pick bracken. And Eiko has the experience of picking bracken many times, and Keiko had never been there before. Therefore, I can't imagine Keiko's husband saying to his wife, who had never been to pick bracken, "Invite your friends to go pick bracken in an area where sexual assaults are frequent." So I don't think there was probably a conversation between the couple that is said in this video. By the way, the crime scene was not a place where sexual assault and prostitution are rampant, but a place where local residents enjoy picnics and picking edible wild plants.
@@GabriellahItaly Why?
Thank you DC. That statute crap is infuriating! Everywhere and anything it covers. Ridiculous shite. Do the crime, do the time, or pay the price. Whatever, whenever, wherever. Wonder who the bright bulb was that authored it and the others that just keep it alive? Like that unbelievable double indemnity thing or whatever it's called. There are SO many stupid laws and rules etc that just don't make any sense, especially nowadays. Disgusting. RIP ladies.🙏💔🕊️
There should never be a statute of limitations on r&$e or murder!
Wow- I wasn’t expecting the end of the case. What a shame. RIP to the ladies
This HAS to be solvable as it's surely a Killer who went on to do other crimes that's responsible &likely already known to Police IMHO
How would that make it solvable?
@@eadweard. If the police have enough clues as to who this could be, that would make the case more solvable.
@@Da_Publick Well true, but that's all a bit "If we had some eggs we could have some ham and eggs if we had some ham".
@@eadweard. The fact is that the police don't have enough evidence that points to one particular suspect. The description of the man who asked the other lady 'have you picked the Bracken?' didn't turn out to be a viable lead. There's also no solid evidence that he committed other crimes, including the home murder five years later. Who are they going to arrest, based on what they have?
Yakuza.
More cases from Asia plssss ❤😬 there is some crazy ones out there!
Unfortunately Japan has a statute of limitations on murder so they have actively stopped investigating (I learned this from a Japanese TH-camr) it sucks cause this case is solvable especially with dna databases etc.
I thought Japan abolished their statute of limitations on murder in 2010. There was a particularly awful murder case from 1995 that was set to fall under the statute, and it was ruled abolished just to keep that case open.
She explains that in this video also
@@reolabranchYou mean the Japanese TH-camr or Dark Curiosities, this one? I missed that if it's DC🤔🙏
@@Da_Publick I don't think it was retrospective "(May 21, 2010) The Diet, Japan's legislature, amended the country's Criminal Procedure Law to abolish the statute of limitations for murder and other crimes that result in the deaths of persons. The amendments became effective on April 28, 2010, the day after the Law to Amend the Penal Code and the Criminal Procedure Law was promulgated (Law No. 26 of 2010). The new Law is applied to cases in which the statute of limitations had not run out as of its effective date, even if the crime was committed before the new Law's enactment. (Criminal Procedure Law, Law No. 131 of 1948, amended by Law No. 26, Attached Provisions, art. 3.)"
Nice to see your video pop up.
I really don't get the statute of limitations. If the perpetrator is found, even 40, 50, 60 years later, they should face trial. What a horrific case.
So heartbreaking.I’m just so sad to see that there’s a statute of limitations on murder.hopefully it won’t be too long now before the case is solved
There's a statute of limitations for _murder_ in Japan? That's absurd!
Why, according to you, is it absurd? Must every country in the world have the same laws as your country? Can't other countries have different laws?
@@jimmyavpi - with limitations murders get away with their crimes(s). Is that acceptable to you? It isn’t for me.
@ur1cat I didn't say it was acceptable now, did I? And you still didn't answer my question. You can't answer a question with another question..
@@jimmyavpi Well, clearly the Japanese thought it absurd as well, since, as per some other comments, they recently abolished the statute of limitations for murder.
@@anthonyalles1833 You appear to have still not answered my question
Are you unable to read or just unwilling to answer a reasonable question?
They should reopen the case and do forensic genealogy on it!
Good afternoon everyone hope you are having a good day. Greetings from the USA. Prayers for the families for answers and justice
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thanks for your video as always great work
The fact that this murder happened just 2 days before Etan Patz was murdered is shocking.
Why?
Always enjoy your show. Keep up the tough work. We really appreciate it
So sad it’s never been solved😔
A husband of the year! Tells his wife to hike in an SA spot and bring other ladies with her… 😏😏😏 in stead of going with her or going alone. "Love it"
In fact, the crime scene was not a SA spot, but a place where local residents would go for a picnic. So I don't think there was such a conversation between the couple.
To me it seems there was an accomplice male or female woth the killer, who wrote the note ( and was not the wifes handwriting as sudpected by her husband). Using this note, they approached the women to gain acess and their company and their trust as the women felt they could help this person gain some safety..as this place was known for being dangerous for women . Putting the note in her pocket... they then were attacked by these people..
That would explain the note and how they both were attacked. horrifying either way. 😕
Statute of limitations on murder??
Yeah that floored me too. Incomprehensible! They're basically saying go ahead and do it. If you can hide long enough and don't do anything else nearby...you are free! Yay! Jeez. There's a deterrent for you. Ugh😳
The statute of limitations on murder is ridiculous.
These types of crimes occur in Japan more often than people think, but these weebs will try to tell you that Japan is some type of crime free utopia.
It is sad in Japan case closed after a time no matter is not solved…interesting…
The fact that the husband told his wife to go up a mountain that's notorious for sexual assault just to pick some plants raises red flags.
Also that he noticed she was missing mostly because his regular dinner wasn't ready 🙄.
I mean, he did suggest she not go alone, and that's just the phrasing used here. For all we know the firmness could have been lost in translation and instead of a wishy-washy suggestion it could have been more like "do not go alone" rather than "maybe have someone go with you" and that's only if the conversation even went that way at all. You have to keep the variables in mind. This telling is at the very least a third hand account. I'm sure you've played telephone before, so consider that and toss in the language barrier. I personally wouldn't ask a woman to go to a place like that, but if they're not going alone, and it was midday, it wouldn't be that concerning. To suggest malicious intent isn't really fair to the guy. It's not like he waited around and didn't report it for days or anything like that, and it's something that will likely haunt him his entire life
In the first place, Keiko had never gone to pick bracken before, and the day of the incident was her first time picking bracken. Therefore, it is hard to imagine that Keiko's husband would suddenly tell her to go and collect bracken when she had never done so before. On the other hand, Eiko has a lot of experience picking bracken, and she had already gone into the mountains five times that year alone. So, if you think about it with common sense, it would be normal to think that Eiko invited Keiko to go bracken picking. In the first place, the crime scene was not a place where SA or prostitution takes place, but a place where local people go for picnics on holidays. Some say that it is just a rumor that there have been many SA at the crime scene. There seems to be no clear source to support that SA occurred there. On the contrary, there were reports at the time of the incident that no suspicious persons such as molesters had ever appeared at the crime scene. So I don't think the conversation mentioned in the video between Keiko and her husband actually took place.
I think the double murder and the woman's encounter with the man with the knife are the same person and that he is definitely a serial killer and predator
Agreed. This person might have more victims in different prefectures that were never connected to this case. This is why there needs to be more work conducted between prefectural police because he may have moved to a different prefecture. Look at unsolved cold cases from other prefectures with a similar m.o. If he got sloppy then hopefully someone will connect the various cases to this case. DNA analysis will be the key to identifying him and ensuring justice will finally be dealt.
@@mirandagoldstine8548exactly plus if the 15 year statute of limitation didn't exist then there would be an even higher chance of solving this case
Don't think. Let the police do proving. Your thinking is dangerous..
@@jimmyavpi wrong my thinking isn't narrow minded like the police are in most unsolved cases
@JohntheLNERP2 Your thinking is narrow minded. You have tunnel vision. The police investigate different theories, you just think one thing and believe that one thing is correct.
A statute of limitations on murder?! That's a bad idea...
I agree with many commentators here that it is absurd that there is a statute of limitation on a crime as serious as murder. The husband's behaviour, especially with regards to asking his wife to go to a location known for crimes against women and suggesting that she go with a companion, is highly suspicious. Another great episode as usual!
I love the narrator..
Who would tell their wife to go pick plants in a known area of sexual assault?? Oh it's all good take a friend with you!!! 🤦♀️
Sad. Tragic.
Its a pity that YT won't allow you to explain everything that was done to those victims even though its obvious what the perpetrators did to them
I don’t need to know all the details. Just knowing the person was murdered and tortured is enough for me.
Why do we need to know ALL the gory details? I think DC actually goes into more details than other channels on YT. We have imaginations, it doesn't take much to understand what happened, if you need to know.
You can find the details online if you research the case. The channel doesn't need to go into gory details.
Case closed because it reached the statute of limitations? Did i hearvthat right? How must the families feel, we are no longer working your case. 😢
So someone will get away with murder because of the stupid statute of limitations what a pathetic joke
Did the third woman actually go with them? How did she escape? What’s her account of what happened? So many questions.
That’s the key.
I suspect she was doing something else that the police can verify but would not make public like seeing a married man or doing sex-work.
It is said to be just a rumor that the victim of the bracken-picking murder and the woman murdered in the same area five years later worked at the same supermarket. In fact, it is said that there was no connection between the victims of these two murders. I think that such rumors spread probably because there were a series of gruesome murders in the same area at short intervals. So, I don't think the third woman who is said to have gone bracken picking with the victims did not exist in the first place.
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Japan has a statute of limitations on murder? I find that incredible, esp. when they can try to solve this case with DNA?
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They really do take it to a next level brutality in Japan in terms of their mothers
What do they do with the brambles?
How absolutely terrible. Hope the perpetrators got their just desserts.
What did they want the ferns for anyway?
What kind of husband is going to be ok with his wife going to a place KNOWN for sexual assaults?
Why didn’t he go with her instead of advising her to bring a friend?
Good grief.
Why would a husband tell his wife she should go to an area known for sexual assaults?? Baffling. I imagine he lived painfully with that suggestion for a long time. May these women rest in peace. Ridiculous that Japan has a statute of limitations for murder.
but if information you bleed out very quickly when you cut the achilles tendon
Put her on 0,75 %.
You don’t bleed out from a tendon. Bleeding out occurs from arterial lacerations and some of the larger veins.
@@kazbutler by the time you get to the tendon what else have you cut?
@@anitahalbleib4141 not much, check for yourself, it's literally skin deep
The Achilles tendons were cut to immobilize them
Was the husband investigated?
Why were they picking bracken, what is bracken used for?
It's used for food in Asian countries.
Used in cooking
Is it really wise to cook bracken though? Because I read that it can give you stomach cancer
Thank you for your information.
@@JohntheLNERP2 Oh wow, yeah! It's the only plant known to cause cancer in animals; and humans are animals, too.
Yeah send a two-woman duo up a remote place known for SA's, what did you expect? Crazy husbands.
How is the third companion cut completely out of the story‽ If she was with them she is a witness to something, even if she left them before the attack. If she wasn’t with them then she does not figure into the story at all.
Also, how could one person savagely beat and rape two women unless he restrained at least one of them when he attacked the other, not to mention the third woman who may ir may not have been with them‽
I think more than one person attacked these poor women.
That a third woman, the identity of whom is apparently known to the police, may have been with them, and who was subsequently murdered, yet nothing regarding her account of the events has been disclosed is just bizarre! What could explain that? Was the third woman mentally challenged and unable to communicate or what?
Third woman was a witness, saw who did it, blackmailed the perpetrator?
Too bad they closed the case. Whoever killed them got away with murder.
Whoa. Not what you expect in Japan. Were they really prostitutes?? And the Yakuza wanted payments?? Seems weird to have prostitute hill ??
Go pick these things but be careful because there is always the chance you could be attacked and s*#ually assaulted or murdered. I cant imagine my husband telling me to go to a place that's known for its dangers. If It was my idea to go he still wouldn't allow it. I would think he lost his mind if he suggested it. I'm commenting at the beginning of the video so it could be an innocent suggestion or a set up by the husband. I guess I'll find out shortly. 😊
If my husband suggested I go to a well known place for sexual assaults, and take a female friend, I’d be rethinking my life choices 😮
Hope the husband felt like shit after telling his wife to go cut bracken!!!!
Sorry but who would encourage there wife to go pick fruit at a notorious spot of sexual assaults?
Was the husband cleared?
Well reasearched and narrated
Those shoe prints lead me to believe Jackie Chan and Yao Ming have teamed up to wreak havoc on the bramble berry community.
I appreciate lesser-known cases, but from four decades ago... um, no thanks.
Well that sucked.