The Peculiar Case of Clarence Roberts

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  • @SylisDaCheesCakeGoat
    @SylisDaCheesCakeGoat ปีที่แล้ว +236

    When I hear these stories I feel so blessed to be alive , I was abandoned by my family at 18 and kicked out due to reporting my step dad for touching on me , I lived in a shelter and walked to work so many nights in the dark , I was extremely scared and alone , nothing ever happened to me luckily although one time a man followed me for a bit yelling that I have a nice body , I ran as fast as I could and when I looked up he was gone , I’ve been through so much and I’m glad that I now have my own apartment and car and job , I could’ve been one of these stories!!!!!

    • @user-cm2ky8hv6o
      @user-cm2ky8hv6o ปีที่แล้ว +13

      God bless you ❤

    • @fishhuntadventure
      @fishhuntadventure ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thank you for choosing to be above average. The world needs you.

    • @bigboy3148
      @bigboy3148 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      God bless you 🙏🥰

    • @J.C...
      @J.C... ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@fishhuntadventure thank you for being kind 🙏

    • @ysucae
      @ysucae ปีที่แล้ว +21

      being homeless does not mean you have no value. i am happy you got out of it in one piece. please take care ♡

  • @TheSaneHatter
    @TheSaneHatter ปีที่แล้ว +69

    This is clearly a case of a man who "outsmarted" himself, who thought he was more of a cunning mastermind than he really was. His harebrained scheme to get rich quick (through an insurance payment to his wife) plainly backfired and left them both poorer than ever, as well as under suspicion from the law. Clearly he decided to cut his losses and killed her, but what's not as clear is whether he committed suicide or blundered into setting himself on fire. Either way, it's one hell of an irony.

  • @horrortackleharry
    @horrortackleharry ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'm surprised the police never got a search warrant for the house during the 1970s.

    • @nicolad8822
      @nicolad8822 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      His family were the Police by the sounds of it!

  • @janetmiller2980
    @janetmiller2980 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The moral of this story: don’t live beyond your means. THREE luxury vehicles?!
    Reminds me of an observation of my husband when his job took him on the road. The rough and tumble neighborhoods where the average residents are barely getting by were where he saw the most luxury vehicles and designer clothes, New Balance sneakers. The actual wealthy areas many were driving Toyotas and dressed in more modestly priced clothes.
    It appears the Williams lived beyond their means and CW tried a get rich quick scheme that backfired.

  • @lucbelcher7256
    @lucbelcher7256 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Wow, this was an absolutely crazy story. As they say, truth is stranger than fiction.

  • @Kat-tr2ig
    @Kat-tr2ig ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I wonder if the homeless man had tattoos on his arms, and that's why Clarence cut them off. The second fire does sound like a double suicide.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they were burned off.

  • @catsandsoup7390
    @catsandsoup7390 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have been addicted to your page for a while now. I have a lesse known case that has stuck with me for a while. A teenage boy named Quawan Charles from Louisiana that was lured from his house then found in a field in shallow water with half his face missing, and police called it a drowning. A mother and son last were with him and police refused to do anything for MONTHS. I look every once in a while to see where the case has gone. I'd love to see your take on the horrible situation.

  • @magnus1001
    @magnus1001 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In the photo when he was older, Clarence sort of looks like Cary Grant. Strange story.

  • @jenniferbreaux7385
    @jenniferbreaux7385 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll never understand greedy, superficial people.

  • @cristinavillar5196
    @cristinavillar5196 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    He looked a lot like Cary Grant (on the pic with glasses)!

    • @csthompson9785
      @csthompson9785 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought the same thing!

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought the same thing!

    • @usmale49
      @usmale49 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, now that you mentioned it. He does have a striking resemblance to Cary Grant!!

    • @cristinavillar5196
      @cristinavillar5196 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of my favourite actors. ❤❤❤

  • @mirandagoldstine8548
    @mirandagoldstine8548 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Only way we will know who the unknown man was is if someone does a DNA analysis. I feel like the man has distant relatives out there who never got to know him. He was someone’s son before he died so it’s only right we try to identify him and bring closure to any surviving family members of his that might exist.

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That might be impossible now that so much time has passed.

    • @mirandagoldstine8548
      @mirandagoldstine8548 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@VioletJoy True but then again you never know. A lot of Does have been identified thanks to the DNA Doe project. And besides who knows, he might have some distant cousins or other relatives out there who have been wondering what happened to a certain relative.

    • @VioletJoy
      @VioletJoy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mirandagoldstine8548 Oh, of course. I was just pointing out that it's less likely since it's been over 50 years ago. It would be great if his identity was discovered even if he didn't have any family left. Such a horrific story.

    • @Fourleafclover9
      @Fourleafclover9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought that , he was once a loved child.

    • @mirandagoldstine8548
      @mirandagoldstine8548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VioletJoy Indeed. He was loved by someone.

  • @crafty_history
    @crafty_history ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was sitting here listening to this and thinking about how familiar this sounded. It's because I did research into this case recently and it's just a few miles from me. Crazy!

  • @consciousobserver629
    @consciousobserver629 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It seems that Clearance was hiding out with his wife. Who the man was who had had his arms hacked off is another big question. But it is confusing to say the least.

    • @buschovski1
      @buschovski1 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, that's what I was thinking. I was thinking he was hiding out with his wife not hiding out elsewhere.

  • @lorila-northrup7748
    @lorila-northrup7748 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wonder what made his family conclude the 2nd Clarence wasn't him? I'm sure his son (if alive) would understand that his mom is resting next to the tomb of the unknown vagrant (odd).
    I've more questions so let's see where a lil Sunday afternoon research finds me & the Roberts.

    • @balanceofjudgement6136
      @balanceofjudgement6136 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think that they would have to say the second body wasn't him to try to keep themselves from being investigated for assisting their father's crimes. If he was hiding out at the mom's house they would have almost certainly known, unless they were estranged or something. Also I think most (not all I'm sure) moms would tell the kids, since it would be so painful for them otherwise. Either way it's such a sad story :(

    • @WangMingGe
      @WangMingGe ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Given that the 2nd body was conclusively identified by dental records, it does seem awfully foolish of them to try deny it.

  • @Meenadevidasi
    @Meenadevidasi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No such thing as telling just one lie. A lie creates a web that needs more lies...

  • @CC3193
    @CC3193 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looking at their photos I get the sense that his wife Geneva may have been a victim of domestic violence and fearful of him.

  • @joekulik999
    @joekulik999 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I must admit that this is an exceptionally weird case. Thank You.

  • @helenbartoszek243
    @helenbartoszek243 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The guy with the glasses looks like Cary Grant.

  • @scotlandshistory
    @scotlandshistory ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What a case! Maybe through DNA the first victim could be identified.

    • @mirandagoldstine8548
      @mirandagoldstine8548 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope so. He was someone’s son so he deserves to get his identity back.

    • @polyamenjoyer5234
      @polyamenjoyer5234 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@mirandagoldstine8548 he was a Person and That's why he deserves his identity back, not because he was "somebody's son". One's value doesn't lie in relation to somebody, a human being's life and identity is priceless simply because they exist

  • @saturn722
    @saturn722 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So why was suicide even considered when the victim has no arms or legs?
    Did I miss something?

    • @norfolkronin6307
      @norfolkronin6307 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. A torso.

    • @saturn722
      @saturn722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@norfolkronin6307 That makes no sense.

  • @mjrchapin
    @mjrchapin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If that were a movie, people wouldn't believe it! Thanks!

  • @VioletJoy
    @VioletJoy ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It seems likely that they gave up and decided to die together, but of course, that is just a guess. What a crazy case.

    • @usmale49
      @usmale49 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I believe you may be on to something! It is possible they were both just tired of the entire situation and it makes sense to me! Good observation!!

    • @janetmiller2980
      @janetmiller2980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You may be right. She failed even in a bid to have him declared legally dead.

    • @same5952
      @same5952 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're probably right. They've dug themselves into the hole they couldn't dig themselves out of.

  • @gabriellahedarv1782
    @gabriellahedarv1782 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your videos are the first I look for every time I go on TH-cam. Your voice is amazing and the stories are always intriguing. Keep up the good work! ❤

  • @CharlieB.-
    @CharlieB.- ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What an odd and interesting case. I would like to see which one was really Clarenence Roberts, if either truly were. Love to see this mystery definitively solved some day.

    • @nicolad8822
      @nicolad8822 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They identified him from dental records second time around.

    • @same5952
      @same5952 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      First time around it was determined that it was NOT Clarence. Dental records didn't match, and then there is the case of the deceased person having AB blood type which is not only very rare in general population (3%) but also didn't match Roberts. The second guy was Roberts.

  • @jamesa.7604
    @jamesa.7604 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love this channel. You do a Fine Job on research and presentation! Well Done!

  • @lucbelcher7256
    @lucbelcher7256 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for the upload!

  • @usmale49
    @usmale49 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very peculiar case, indeed! Thank you for uploading and sharing!!

  • @eden19966
    @eden19966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have such great content. Always respectful and with great narrative.

  • @taniavaz711
    @taniavaz711 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    WOOOOOW! This case its nuts

  • @robertmcconnell1009
    @robertmcconnell1009 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer these older cases..

  • @jeffjones3040
    @jeffjones3040 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most policies don't pay for suicide!

    • @lighthousesanddaisies2711
      @lighthousesanddaisies2711 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most policies have a suicide clause where they won't pay out within the first (usually) 2 years, but will thereafter. I worked in life insurance for 18 years.

  • @ImHereAlso
    @ImHereAlso ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great upload. It's a very interesting story. Thanks

  • @lyedavide
    @lyedavide ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great episode!

  • @lcook411
    @lcook411 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel. And your accent. :)

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It does sound like his wife was hiding something like she knew more than she was letting on

  • @davidp.5598
    @davidp.5598 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks DC for bringing us this story. Peculiar case indeed.

  • @rondohatton7292
    @rondohatton7292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This happened about 70 miles from me. Although I was fairly young when the first fire occurred, I remember the case well. It was big news in the State. The TV show "Unsolved Mysteries" did an episode featuring it.

  • @thetragicyouth
    @thetragicyouth ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Pic of Clarence at 2.20 looks like Cary Grant!

  • @kathleenorourke6917
    @kathleenorourke6917 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jeez. That newspaper clip looks like an older Cary Grant.

  • @katiecook6006
    @katiecook6006 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa, you're taking me back! I remember seeing this on unsolved mysteries when I was kid. It really stuck out to me.

  • @dannichris87
    @dannichris87 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man I like this channel but I haaattteee the unsolved stuff. There’s so much too.

    • @JenSmyre
      @JenSmyre 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ITS 🌎🌍 WE LIVE IN MY FRIEND

  • @sandrafaith
    @sandrafaith ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember this story from Unsolved Mysteries... though you have managed to provide info I don't remember hearing before!
    I wonder if Clarence didn't slip something into the homeless man's drink to make him ill... What a crazy story.

  • @ruantengyi
    @ruantengyi ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember this case. It was featured in the show “Unsolved Mysteries”!

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most bizarre cases I've heard about

  • @juliejohnson6472
    @juliejohnson6472 ปีที่แล้ว

    So strange that I live about an hour north of there. Next time I'm there I'll get some photos of graveside and the property. I do remember the hardware store?

  • @WaitingtoHit
    @WaitingtoHit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I haven’t been in Cahoots in so long. Gotta get back there . . .

  • @SecretUnicorn8
    @SecretUnicorn8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This might be a stupid question but if the body in the 2nd fire matched the dental records of Clarence who was missing for 10 years at that point then that means that the dental records were also at least 10 years old, so how reliable is that as a means of identification?

    • @hevoskuiskaaja2008
      @hevoskuiskaaja2008 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dental records usually don’t change a lot, this also includes jawbone.

    • @KathleenCalhoun-em6ys
      @KathleenCalhoun-em6ys 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I doubt that Clarence's dental records changed any since he was unaccounted for during 1970-1980 and wouldn't have been able to see a dentist anyway even if he needed to because he was broke.

  • @kimberlynolan2573
    @kimberlynolan2573 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lived in Brown county in 1980, and I believe this is still a topic of discussion and wonder in tiny Nashville In. Myself I think they both were killed in the second fire, but no one will ever know now.

  • @serenhafwilliams-davies5915
    @serenhafwilliams-davies5915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NOOO!

  • @kirtknierim3687
    @kirtknierim3687 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. What a clod. Great story, thank you!

  • @yukiefromoz2573
    @yukiefromoz2573 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting.

  • @ShakerMaker1980
    @ShakerMaker1980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone who followed the Leticia Stouch case ears perk up when they heard the surname Hardin?? That was LIEtecia’s maiden name and also the use of fires 🔥 is very interesting… Just observations.

  • @danielroberts2941
    @danielroberts2941 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clarence was my Great-Grandpa’s (Ora) half brother. My family says he hid in Costa Rica for a long time.

  • @Ballterra
    @Ballterra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it just me or does the photo of a older Clarence look a lot like the actor Cary Grant wearing glasses

  • @TheDriftwoodlover
    @TheDriftwoodlover ปีที่แล้ว

    Very creepy and sad case

  • @TawnyC_
    @TawnyC_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a weird couple.

  • @miapdx503
    @miapdx503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I saw the thumbnail I thought I was seeing Gregory Peck. He was a handsome young man. 😏

  • @brodyberry6253
    @brodyberry6253 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YES!! 😃

  • @michaelmichaels138
    @michaelmichaels138 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmmm, that is so peculiar.

  • @fabiwilliams4644
    @fabiwilliams4644 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is where familial DNA would resolve all doubts & bring closure

  • @michellel564
    @michellel564 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bet he lived in the house with her the whole time😅

  • @janetmiller2980
    @janetmiller2980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roughly halfway through-how was the man who didn’t match with Clarence Roberts signed out? Homicide? Undetermined?

  • @carolyndalton7775
    @carolyndalton7775 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ✔️

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope the homeless guy gets identified in the future at least you would wonder what happened to cause him to lose touch with his family prior to his death

    • @mirandagoldstine8548
      @mirandagoldstine8548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I want that as well. He probably has distant relatives, maybe nieces and nephews, possibly first cousins once removed, maybe even kids and grandkids if he had a relationship. They deserve to get closure for a lost relative. Perhaps it’s time to suggest his case to the DNA Doe project. He’s waited long enough to be reunited.

  • @Hey_Jamie
    @Hey_Jamie ปีที่แล้ว

    Green Lawn Cemetery was where George McFly was buried in BTTF2 lol

  • @patriciarobinson8521
    @patriciarobinson8521 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woe he looks like Cary Grant.

  • @lightturner8913
    @lightturner8913 ปีที่แล้ว

    He respawned

  • @Mojavekight17
    @Mojavekight17 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Woman = 1
    Women = more than 1

    • @nicolad8822
      @nicolad8822 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ?

    • @Irishgirl90586
      @Irishgirl90586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah…..??
      I understand the meaning of the different spelling is correct but in relation to the video I don’t get it 🤷‍♀️
      Have I missed something or what ?

    • @Mojavekight17
      @Mojavekight17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Irishgirl90586 your video got them wrong

  • @Jkk55
    @Jkk55 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, DC, another very interesting case I do believe he faked his death the first time but came unstuck so the second time yes it was him.

  • @KathleenCalhoun-em6ys
    @KathleenCalhoun-em6ys 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clarence and Geneva Roberts pushed it as far as they could go with the insurance appeals so they decided the only option in relieving themselves of a continued existence of destitution and hiding was a double suicide. Too bad. They could have bought just one nice car and a more modest house and avoided what started it all.

  • @SchmeesCrotchFruit
    @SchmeesCrotchFruit ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of killers in IN come from Brown Co.. creepty. College girls go missing almost every year

  • @cpoole371
    @cpoole371 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope they dig up the other man and do DNA, his family is probably looking for him.

  • @othertalk3313
    @othertalk3313 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who, exactly, was questioning how a metal object could survive a fire when some of the man's (non-metallic) body parts did not? Seriously... who are these people?

  • @StLMikie
    @StLMikie ปีที่แล้ว

    A dna test would surely answer some questions.

  • @DirtySanchez943
    @DirtySanchez943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The old lady talked 2 much!!!

  • @eadweard.
    @eadweard. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:05 His blood type was a bee? What does that mean??

    • @robertmcconnell1009
      @robertmcconnell1009 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was buzzing....

    • @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673
      @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @eb8696, read about blood groups, blood types. The blood groups/types are as follows:
      A-positive (A+)
      A-negative (A-)
      B-positive (B+)
      B-negative (B-)
      AB-positive (AB+)
      AB-negative (AB-)
      O-positive (O+)
      O-negative (O-)
      Now whether she meant he was a B or was AB is another question to ask! 😊

    • @bootsminor4364
      @bootsminor4364 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he'd applied himself he could have gotten an A.

    • @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673
      @namewithheldbygoogleforsec673 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bootsminor4364 or even A+......or at least an A-

    • @jstone247
      @jstone247 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A B is a,blood type

  • @laurametheny1008
    @laurametheny1008 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didnt think insurance companies payout for suicides. ? Thank you DC🙏💔🦌

  • @caitlinbures4802
    @caitlinbures4802 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow 2nd wife and a kid by age of 22-23! He’s a fast mover!

  • @DirtySanchez943
    @DirtySanchez943 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killed by the masonic lodge 4 wanted 2 spill the beans!!!

  • @oliviatree
    @oliviatree ปีที่แล้ว

    HIS arms and legs were missing. We know the sex of the victim.

  • @AABB-bm9kk
    @AABB-bm9kk ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m frankly more concerned these days with the peculiar case of USA Supreme Court (of in)justice Clarence Thomas 🤔🤷‍♂️

    • @beverlylawyer2286
      @beverlylawyer2286 ปีที่แล้ว

      1990'S Woman told how strange Clarance Thomas is, was on TV, let him get away with being a freak

  • @loveforeignaccents
    @loveforeignaccents ปีที่แล้ว

    Ugh with these way-the-hell-old cases already!!!

    • @williamegler8771
      @williamegler8771 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don't watch them if you aren't interested!