With the way their house was ransacked I have no doubt that it was planned for sometime someone knew that they had money and wanted to get their hands on it
I think that whether or not the blood on the hat was human or animal could be determined at that time. Perhaps the hat would have to be sent to a police center for that decision. I’m sorry they didn’t get justice for their killing. Happy to hear the case was finally solved in the 21st century.
I'm certain that they could have done so: after the Borden murders in 1892 (forty years BEFORE this), there was medical testing advanced enough to determine that some bloodied implements found at the house only had animal blood on them.
The Uhlenhuth test, which could distinguish human blood from animal blood was developed in 1901. Maybe there was not enough blood for the testing in those days.
At those times, the Uhlenhuth test was in a very primitive stage. Also, the police work was in it's own nascent stage. All in all, a terrible and horrifying case!
“By the 1930s, the precipitin test [to determine if crime scene blood was human] was accepted in most courts.” It wasn’t usable in most cases when it was first developed in 1901 (due to the quality and quantity of blood present) but was used in a case in 1926 in Scotland, after improvements had been developed. Of course, that doesn’t mean that the specific jurisdiction in this case had such testing available to them. I don’t really see how that would have helped much to convict him, though, since they couldn’t whose blood it was. It would have only proved he lied about the hat, which I suppose could have been enough to sway the jurors.
Fun fact: Although on a different branch of the family, Godfrey Nobes would nevertheless have been a cousin of mine, via his mother, Eva Karn. I actually found a comment on a web site today which claims that Godfrey Nobes married in 1934 and died (in Kent, I believe) in 1959, under an assumed name.
Hanx, Tammy for another groundbreaking story of human greed. And the final solution after 7 decades... Merry Christmas all around you. The world is growing worse and grey, day after day. Keep your head over your shoulders, looking into the future, clearing the secrets of the past...Bon voyage into 2024...i'm your fan...
It’s good that the case was finally solved albeit a little too late for the living family members back then and the killer. With these historical cases, in which the use of science is light years away, how else can a jury convict a criminal other than to use circumstantial evidence? Aside from witnessing the crime or catching the killer red-handed, any and all evidence generated is always circumstantial. The culprit should have been found guilty in 1932. Saying the evidence is circumstantial, and thus not convict him is a moot point.
So where did he get the money? Well bad ppl usually repeat offenses they think they can get away with, and wherever he disappeared to he most likely caused more trouble and hopefully he paid for what he did😮 His fiancée definitely was spared of a bad marriage to a monster!
While the murders of Albert and Annie were brutal and senseless, there is a silver lining in that, having been slain on the same day, this loving couple did not have to spend a single day apart from each other. It is my sincere hope that the craven coward Godfrey Nobes spent the rest of his days looking over his shoulder and jumping at shadows.
Amazing how police used to solve murders. They used alot of common sense, which today they cannot. Knowing that money is held, outside a bank is always risky, and 100 pounds, in 1930 was a fortune, for the poor. People were a little too trusting, by saying out loud that they did not trust banks. Such a sad case, because while I'm sure this couple were beyond caring if their case was solved, or not, society changes with each case like this. God bless you for the work you do, in bringing obscure cases to light for us. Happy Christmas to you and your family.
Since the culprit was never seen again it is also possible that he was in turn killed by the locals as a form of vigilante justice... we may never know for sure, but i believe it highly likely.
Probably from her clothes - the police retain the victim's clothing as evidence - eg the final proof of Hanratty's crimes, which came from retained clothing samples, and his own familial DNA. There is also an unsolved shooting murder in South Wales, where modern DNA tests finally exonerated a boy, the last person to see the victim before her death, who had long lived under the suspicion of being the killer. @@jenniferlonnes7420
DC, Stringbean is a beloved country music entertainer, real name David Akeman. He and his wife Estelle were murdered in their home just outside of Nashville. It's a very sad unsolved mystery, as far as I know.
@@nancyholcombe8030 It was solved many years ago. In 2014, John Brown who was involved with the nurder, was granted parole and released after serving 41 years of a 198-year sentence. Google for more info.
Greed is a terrible thing. I hope what that man did gave him horrible acid reflux the rest of his life. Unless he maybe offed himself by from guilt...thank you DC. RIP lovely couple and their loved ones if they've passed as well. Condolences and peace to their loved ones who are still alive now that they know who did it. He's in Gods hands now💔🕊️🙏🏼🦌
Omg, I lived in guildford all my life. I have never heard of this, and I used to deliver to Rodsall Manor. Thanks for this story
No way!
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With the way their house was ransacked I have no doubt that it was planned for sometime someone knew that they had money and wanted to get their hands on it
I think that whether or not the blood on the hat was human or animal could be determined at that time. Perhaps the hat would have to be sent to a police center for that decision. I’m sorry they didn’t get justice for their killing. Happy to hear the case was finally solved in the 21st century.
I'm certain that they could have done so: after the Borden murders in 1892 (forty years BEFORE this), there was medical testing advanced enough to determine that some bloodied implements found at the house only had animal blood on them.
The Uhlenhuth test, which could distinguish human blood from animal blood was developed in 1901. Maybe there was not enough blood for the testing in those days.
At those times, the Uhlenhuth test was in a very primitive stage. Also, the police work was in it's own nascent stage. All in all, a terrible and horrifying case!
“By the 1930s, the precipitin test [to determine if crime scene blood was human] was accepted in most courts.” It wasn’t usable in most cases when it was first developed in 1901 (due to the quality and quantity of blood present) but was used in a case in 1926 in Scotland, after improvements had been developed. Of course, that doesn’t mean that the specific jurisdiction in this case had such testing available to them.
I don’t really see how that would have helped much to convict him, though, since they couldn’t whose blood it was. It would have only proved he lied about the hat, which I suppose could have been enough to sway the jurors.
My heritage is the UK. I love hearing these stories.... always excellent! Enjoy the Holidays! 💚❤️
Where do you live now?
@@Nick-Emery I'm from southern California. But living in Arizona now. 🙂
Fun fact: Although on a different branch of the family, Godfrey Nobes would nevertheless have been a cousin of mine, via his mother, Eva Karn. I actually found a comment on a web site today which claims that Godfrey Nobes married in 1934 and died (in Kent, I believe) in 1959, under an assumed name.
Merry Christmas from Australia.
Hanx, Tammy for another groundbreaking story of human greed. And the final solution after 7 decades... Merry Christmas all around you. The world is growing worse and grey, day after day. Keep your head over your shoulders, looking into the future, clearing the secrets of the past...Bon voyage into 2024...i'm your fan...
It’s good that the case was finally solved albeit a little too late for the living family members back then and the killer. With these historical cases, in which the use of science is light years away, how else can a jury convict a criminal other than to use circumstantial evidence? Aside from witnessing the crime or catching the killer red-handed, any and all evidence generated is always circumstantial. The culprit should have been found guilty in 1932. Saying the evidence is circumstantial, and thus not convict him is a moot point.
I have been told that circumstantial evidence is not always substandard.🇺🇸
How terribly sad!
So where did he get the money?
Well bad ppl usually repeat offenses they think they can get away with, and wherever he disappeared to he most likely caused more trouble and hopefully he paid for what he did😮
His fiancée definitely was spared of a bad marriage to a monster!
Merry Christmas everyone
Merry Christmas Sam 🎄 🎅
Merry Christmas 🎄
While the murders of Albert and Annie were brutal and senseless, there is a silver lining in that, having been slain on the same day, this loving couple did not have to spend a single day apart from each other. It is my sincere hope that the craven coward Godfrey Nobes spent the rest of his days looking over his shoulder and jumping at shadows.
Wow that guy got away with murder. Sad story.
She is 54??? OMG! THAT WOMAN MUST HAVE HAD A HARD LIFE! She looks like a 75 year old??
Amazing how police used to solve murders. They used alot of common sense, which today they cannot. Knowing that money is held, outside a bank is always risky, and 100 pounds, in 1930 was a fortune, for the poor. People were a little too trusting, by saying out loud that they did not trust banks. Such a sad case, because while I'm sure this couple were beyond caring if their case was solved, or not, society changes with each case like this.
God bless you for the work you do, in bringing obscure cases to light for us.
Happy Christmas to you and your family.
Thank you for your wonderful work!💛
Merry Christmas ❤
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!🎄
Good story an great story telling. I listen and watch other story telling, yours is one enjoy. awesome job😍🥂
Since the culprit was never seen again it is also possible that he was in turn killed by the locals as a form of vigilante justice... we may never know for sure, but i believe it highly likely.
Surely it's more 'highly likely' that he just left the area he'd be a pariah, or do you just want to make it appear more dramatic?
Would they not have found a dead body somewhere?
In the U.K.? Not likely, certainly not in the 1930s.
That's what I thought
What utter tosh!
For some reason I am not getting alerts when you put out a new one
Where did the DNA that were tested in 2002 come from ?
That's what I wondered, too. Determined to be Annie's, but how was her DNA obtained?
Probably from her clothes - the police retain the victim's clothing as evidence - eg the final proof of Hanratty's crimes, which came from retained clothing samples, and his own familial DNA. There is also an unsolved shooting murder in South Wales, where modern DNA tests finally exonerated a boy, the last person to see the victim before her death, who had long lived under the suspicion of being the killer. @@jenniferlonnes7420
@@jenniferlonnes7420From her bones maybe?
It’s pronounced ‘god all min’ mortuary, said as a word! And the d in Guildford is silent.
How about covering Stringbean from HeeHaw?
I used to watch that show with my pawpaw 🥲
DC, Stringbean is a beloved country music entertainer, real name David Akeman. He and his wife Estelle were murdered in their home just outside of Nashville. It's a very sad unsolved mystery, as far as I know.
@@nancyholcombe8030 It was solved many years ago. In 2014, John Brown who was involved with the nurder, was granted parole and released after serving 41 years of a 198-year sentence. Google for more info.
Me too. My grandparents and I would always have snacks and watch her haw
I meant hee haw
How frustrating he got away with murder. No wonder he disappeared.
Well , Godfrey got away with murder. Most likely because his parents were rich and land owners.
That's all the evidence anyone should need.
If he was thrown into the pond how did his feet get stuck in the mud?
I knew about this case and I thought it was a farmer as he lived not far away and I have looked at the map
.happy ye olde Christmas.
Yes DNA advancements really have come a long way
I'm not convinced he moved.
I'd rather believe he was taken care of.
Greed is a terrible thing. I hope what that man did gave him horrible acid reflux the rest of his life. Unless he maybe offed himself by from guilt...thank you DC. RIP lovely couple and their loved ones if they've passed as well. Condolences and peace to their loved ones who are still alive now that they know who did it. He's in Gods hands now💔🕊️🙏🏼🦌
Sorry, there is no god.
SCARY! :(
Let’s hope there’s an afterlife and Nobe has been paying for his crimes with his immortal soul.
They might get away with it here on earth but at the end we all stand before GOD and there will be justice
50/50 on Godfrey
At the time if i were a juror
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Dna might help now or fingerprints
Killed by Jack The Ripper on holiday😢😢😢
Annie are you Ok? Are you OK Annie?
Great song.
You've been hit by, you've been struck by a Smooth Criminal!!!
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Another dumb jury
Narration is so important, Ill pass on this!
What do you mean?
She did a better job than 99% of content creators.
Her narration is excellent, her 228k subscribers seem to agree also.
Her narration is fine , it's the bad spelling on the writing at the bottom of the screen,😮
@@jenniferlonnes7420 dull/flat I realise it's a serious topic, but!
"Eat more chkn"🐄
Ridiculous generic video . Cheap nasty production .
Why don't you go elsewhere if you don't like it? Most of us here enjoy these videos. No need to be a crab about it.
Your comment is a bit uncalled for. I don't think there is any need to be so aggressive