I think the CV-75 worked nicely on the D-Moll. Maybe because the amp is a little on the darker side (at least mine is). The Swamp Thang was surprisingly good and the veteran sounded surprisingly bright. But I'm going to be boring and say the Cemesalestion V30 still rules above all three of these
After your first video on guitar speakers I checked out the WGS Reaper and found their official IRs by Lancaster Audio. The Reaper IRs are probably the best I've ever played and I use them for everything, even clean and crunch stuff, not just metal. But I have to say, I'm really liking the Swamp Thang, the somehwat darker sound might serve me well too. Decisions, decisions...
i have to admit i still prefer the v30 as a "single" speaker. But the three combinations where you mix them are "richer" . Next time i suggest you to try out the creamback (both std and NEO versions), they are great sounding speakers to my ears.
Where da fuck is your beer?!? I totally dig the Reaper to complent the v30 even though the Cv75 and veteran 30 were sick af too! Awesome vid, as usual! Prost und immer gude Laune😝🤘🏽🍻
****IN MIX**** 16:43 V30 MESA 17:43 WGS Veteran 16:31 Swamp Thang 16:55 +V30 17:07 CV-75 17:31 +V30 ****OUT OF MIX**** 18:23 MESA V30 19:23 WGV Veteran 18:11 Swamp Thang 18:35 +V30 18:47 CV-75 19:11 +V30 ***GENERAL NOTES**** - All speakers are 8 ohms. 16 ohm speakers might sound a bit more scooped and fizzy. - And.. Damn man! No Texas Heats! ****NOTES ON SOUND (Only in the mix)**** *S10 phone speaker:* really liking the Swamp Thangs or Swamp Thang/V30 MIX! The Swamp Thangs by themselves sound great. No harshness. No need to Do EQ dips in the high mids to remove snarlies. *2014 Acura RDX with smiley face EQ and has a sub, but the sub isn't on full blast:* Mesa V30 or CV-75 win. Swamp thing isn't clear enough up top, but if your tones are too trebley, the Swamp Thang could be your speaker. In the mix of Swamp Thang and V30, at least on this system, it would have been nicer to have the V30 louder and the Swamp Thang mixed underneath to fill out some of the V30 scoop... Or EQ the Swamp Thangs a bit on their own. There is something in the mids though that you can't get with the V30. I'm starting to think I need Swamp Thangs. Maybe in my THD 2x12 for testing and maybe in my Mesa cab later in an X-pattern. If I had An Emperor 6x12 cab, I'd probably put the Swamps as the two middle speakers and V30's for the remaining 4. Mic'ing live could be a pain though, trying to duplicate the phase relationship at every gig. Would probably sound sweet though. Upon more listening, the CV-75 and V30 mix sound the best. The Swamp thing overpowers the V30 too much, at least in this demo, but the CV-75 works very well with the V30, adding a little extra something to the V30 sound without overdoing it. Now I need Swamp Thangs and CV-75's 😂. I wonder what those two would sound like together.. *Oontz Angle 3 Ultra Bluetooth speaker:* Swamp Thang wins, closely followed by the V30 or CV-75. The WGS isn't bad here either. It might poke out in a mix more... I'm starting to get confused lol. All of this can depend on placement of the speaker. Swamp Thang and V30 mixed sound pretty good too, just adding a little bit of the Mesa's top end. The Mesa needs to be just a tiny bit louder. The CV-75 and Mesa mix sounds pretty good too. I'd go with the Swamp Thang or St miclxed with V30. *2012 CRV with upgraded package:* Alone, the V30 or Swamp Thang win. They're just different. The Swamp has more girth and has smoother highs. The Swamp Thang mixed with the V30 sounds like the way to go, but the V30 and CV-75 are pretty cool if you need more edge. The balance of either mixed pairwould just depend in the mix. WGS and CV-75 lose out on their own. I migh check in some headphones and another car, but I'm leaning towards V30 and Swamp Thangs, with the CV-75 being a wild card. The V30 sounds pretty good everywhere, which is probably why it's so popular, but sometimes it's a little rarry sounding gere and there. The Swamp Thangs give and extra mod to low mid girth, if the V30 sounds too scooped, and the CV-75 has some high mod presence, but lower than where the v30's spike is.. And perhaps slightly less pinchy. Will post more when listening on different speakers/headphones.
"For me Doom is Paradise Lost and My Dying Bride - not that Hippie Doom" - not only a great, competent tutor, but also a man of great taste. Well said, Mr. Kohle!
@säge späne I think he's talking about stoner doom bands, which are really their own thing, for I don't consider them doom, but still really like them.
Mesa V30 + CV75 is a winner. Just kind of balances out the harshness in the upper mids of the V30. With all other speakers or combinations of them I felt like I needed to notch out some 3k. V30 + Swamp Thang did a similar thing but muddied up the lows and low mids quite a bit, making the sound feel farther away and less aggressive.
Funny enough I'm not very fond of V30s by themselves, but I liked the V30 the most from this batch. That said, V30 + Swamp Thang makes for a hell of a Grindcore Tone.
R.I.P. URM Academy. To be honest your videos were the only ones I liked over there. Best of luck with your own channel - I'm sure it'll take off in no time! Subbed btw.
I really love the way you are describing tones & sounds..it makes so much sense & so easy to connect the dots to why I like & dislike certain sounds & tones...sometimes I hear something I like or dislike but I can't put my finger on why, but you are filling those gaps for me...cheers!
Thanks for the spotlight on Eminence ! I’ve always been a fan of their products, especially the p50e that comes in the vht cabs and the Governor. Your video made me wanna try a swamp thang - cv 75 in a 2x12. I am curious how these would sound together
I'm running 2 swamp thangs and 2 Texas heats in a 4×12 and they sound great and sit well when set in a band practice situation. Sounds brutal through my Mesa Boogie Road King.
I love the CV-75 mixed with the V-30 in the raw mix. Thought the swamp thing in the full mix had a perfect Where The Slime Live feel to them . You have me sold on the swamp thing where you did that pushed clean tone at the end through the Diezel.
I truly love the CV-75s i feel that they are so underrated. I have them loaded in my Mojotone 2x12 and I run a EVH 6L6 50 and it slays both clean and in hi gain applications. Tight punchy and articulate.
The low end on the Swamp Thang is so dope. When you mixed it with the V30 I almost put my head through a wall (in a good way). I'd be interested to hear it combined with the WGS.
@@KohleAudioKult I've been totally a victim to the influence, and bought the Swamp Thang IRs offerred by Eminence, which to no surprise are super thin (not sure why I hoped for oomph from a "country legend" engineer), and don't offer anything of the oversized Mesa cab's low end. I really hope your IR pack (which you really must bring out, as I really need you to take my money) will include the Swamp Thang and the ST+V30 blend you showed here, as they are pretty much the best cab sound I've heard so far (as far as youtube can deliver the sound quality) .
some of the highs to me through a sm75 mic sounded like ice cream cones or ice cicles instead of crushed ice or ice cream, mainly because of the mic and the placement required as well as monitor high end speaker quality. although in a room or on stage they sound great even the highs , although when pushed above usable gain and drives or highly stacked sounds they wash with aggressive playing and the cone gets ice picky and washes out, although with a 6 string with mild low and highs can get great mid def. and brightness because those ice pik locations help pull up the mids even when the highs are cut. although it has great highs for squelch and harmonics and solos it helps the highs stay thick and defined as well, so this was a very purpose hybrid type speaker originally a frankenstien tuned for live stage performance with volume demanding muddy amp setting players, and british sounds, the real heavy metal movement ordained by god, not the imposter hair band stuff that caught attention in place of the talk , it was about popularity by word of mouth and the fans were then intentionally mis directed not by the government, but the STATE and rich people gay fallen angel media to hair band 'metal' that was not very metal at all. and lipstick wearing. question : Did metallica wear lipstick? no , because they were part of the real 'metal' that everyone started an uproar over, as the creator themself loves real METAL. not the imposter copycat misleading artists and big money that stepped in and took it from us, now we have it, as it was not allowed on the mainstream radio before and was resisted. Like the tenacious D song states "they tried to destroy the metal". i still love to wear lipstick and kissing although i love my metal to be metal, not twink freelove mockery. Although the pushers of this temporarily stole metal's success, it was short lived, for we the people and god with us, the creator of the universe is with us, and we have the victory and now its evident since the late 90's. real metal has always been in heaven and is and always shall be. forever.
I play a mix of WGS Veteran 30 and Reaper HP, these speakers compliment each other very nicely (tight lows, aggressive mids and clear crisp highs)! In your comparison I like the CV 75 the best.
Been using this combo as well for a few years and still my favorite I’ve had. I just got a Redback and trying to figure out what to pair with it. Might try a Swamp Thang
CV-75 sounds interesting, even without hi-cut. V30 - most balanced(mid range). The main problem of the V30 are the spikes in the highs. But speakers made to be the V30 substitute have midrange spikes and holes.
These are some of the best metal-oriented videos on youtube. Really glad I discovered this channel. Just a quickie observation. I'm a (very much) older than average extreme metal player and was playing in bands in the 70's. Back then, and in the 80's as well, Eminence was considered to be cheap, generic stuff that nobody wanted, and they cost far less than a Celestion. Interesting to see how far they've come. They're now considered to be at least a respected and viable alternative to Celestion. And now nearly as expensive lol.
CV-75 sound clear even with dirty in the amp. To me is the best choice. The low-mids is clear and I love it for my thrash metal band!! Celestion is maybe the Coke in guitar speakers world, but Eminence has the right tone in speakers. They really knows and understand our metal sound
Great video! I have to say that I'm not the biggest fan of the V-30. I often like the Creamback even more. And here I like the Eminence CV-75 the most. Maybe those speakers with the slightly lower mid-focus remind me of the 90s death and thrash sound, which wasn't as refined as today's. But in this test I my favorite was the combination of both the V-30 and the CV-75.
The CV 75 sounds the "Toughest" of them all, that really dense mid range really accentuates chugs and fills the guitar out in the mix. The best blend was the Swamp Thing and the V30, all that thicc low end from the Swamp Thing with that upper mid bite of the V30 gives the guitar a really full sound with out being too woofy or harsh. Would love to see you expeiment with the system that Jerry Cantrell had on Dirt, a Rockman Pocket amp for the highs, a Bogner Estacy for the Mids, and a Bogner Fish Preamp for the lows.
The Swamp Thang and V30 used together had the overall best tone. I like the CV-75 the best on its own though. Almost Vox-y. Would love to hear the CV-75 and the Swamp Thing together.
i think every one of these videos illustrates a great point. what can you ADD to a V30 to shape your tone. not one of them sounds "right" on their own, but using them to blend makes a unique, and generally good tone every time. V30 is salt and pepper. it's in all food. add other seasonings to it to make things truly interesting.
Love this video! In my experience, Eminence Governors are the best for modern hi gain: tight-big lows, brutal mids, and tames the fizzy treble from hi gain amps. Sorry for my english, cheers from Argentina!
glad to see you back at it with your own youtube! Thanks to your speaker comparisons, i bought a g12-k100 and put it in my katana combo, which i also closed up the back of the cabinet to make it tighten up the low end and it sounds pretty awesome, and i ended up building my own 2x12 cabinet with an Eminence Man O War and Swamp Thang ( which i discovered from other research, but glad to see it in the video here and that you enjoy it, i friggin love it!). i was definitely missing your german style sarcasm and brutal honesty. Prost, mein Freund! Ich hoffe, wir sehen uns bald in der Facebook-Gruppe Heavy Metal Amps!
Vintage 30 still the king for me if I am recording a single cab. I give it the R121+SM57 treatment, and I get a bit of that ‘fullness’ that way. Great video, cheers!
for the stuff you played here with that baritone, I absolutely loved the swamp thing by itself. I think I’d love a Warehouse and Vintage 30 mix for me tho
Wow, the CV-75 is so full of what I always lack in my V30-go-to-sound ! I was looking for a great combination and actually think that I will go for it ! BTW, I absolutely love your videos, keep going with your humble, friendly, good sense o humor and profesionalism content you're providing us with. Greetings from French Guyana, where metal has still a long way to go
I am just an old hack, but I have had a lot of speakers, cabs, gear, ect. My favorite is the g12-65 rola..... It is only 65W but I did a back to back to back 4x12 with a mesa dual rect. Mesa V30, Marshall G12-65, and Marshall G12-T75, and later a Marshall MF cab with those MF30v, Eminence red coat, recently G12h30 in an Avatar cab. The 65's have a lower smoother mid curve. More crunch like a G12-T75, but don't get all loose and rumbly. A bit brighter. Thanks for the enlightenment on recording guitar. Peace.
@@h_exterm2779 he used the Jags during his early Randall days, but used the Tex Heat in later days if I’m not mistaken. They were sold in his Krakenstein cab for sure.
I have blended Jaguars with Swamp Thangs for a friend of mines guitar tone in a demo I recorded for him.... He is a big Dime fan and uses pretty much only Randall..... Got good results.... Would bet the Jags and Swamps would sound good in a cab together
I have owned a ton of speakers all brands and styles. I really love the Eminence P-50's. I have a too many 4x12 cabs, I have a P-50 Loaded Fryette and a V-30 Mesa. The Fryette wins almost every time on a recording. Hearing that Swamp Thing and V-30 was Sick! I might have to buy one and load it in one of my 2x12's as a test run. Great demo, Thanks Kristian
I said it before over when you were on URM, but I'd really like to hear some A/B comparison between 8 & 16 ohm speakers. I have always thought that 16 ohm was the way to go, but it would be nice to know if there is a difference.
@@davidfuller581 on the other hand 16 ohm taps on the output transformer (assuming we talk about a tube amp) have higher inter-winding capacitance. But a general rule of thumb we do not leave dead, unused windings on the OT, so the highest available tap is preferable.
I loved the Swamp Thing! I tried to buy 8 of these for two 4x12s I made like 15 years ago! I couldn't get them into Australia back then! But this has inspired me to get at least 2 for my Mesa Cab. I use the Mesa Stiletto amp and its extremely concentrated in the high mids and presence. My theory is the darker tone will tame some of the amp natural brightness! Cheers mate.
CV 75 could be very good for modern metal. At least it feels like one. It would of been nice if you can try those speakers with 7-8 string guitars. Cheers.
i know it’s not popular choice for metal but i love the distant sounding alnico speakers found in vox cabs. they were only available in 15w but then celestion made a 50 and 90 w version opening a door for metal guys to try. I myself have a 12 alnico gold and right next to it in a different closed cab there is a 12 guyatone made in japan with the big black magnet on the back. the difference is the in highs. the growl on the gold is incomparable
Hell yeah, more speaker demos! TH-cam is sorely lacking. The Swamp Thang has a killer bottom end but it feels kinda muffled in the top end by comparison. Love the Swamp Thang + V30 combo. Fat as hell! CV75... Maybe because I have the 16 ohm version it's a bit closer to the V30, but mine is definitely not that dark. The Warehouse has that annoying hissy fizz beam but moreso than the V30, so... pass.
I believe i had eminence in an old Ampeg 4/12 guitar cabinet,in my Stones band,also then Marshall cabs with greenbacks,really loved em ,and those old times.
The WGS Veteran sounds great but... The WGS Retro 30 sounds quite better! Not so clinical. That said the combination of a Veteran or a retro 30 with a reaper or a guvnor sounds great!
So who's the King for you? What's your favorite speaker? (both in the video and the rest of the universe)
I think the CV-75 worked nicely on the D-Moll. Maybe because the amp is a little on the darker side (at least mine is). The Swamp Thang was surprisingly good and the veteran sounded surprisingly bright.
But I'm going to be boring and say the Cemesalestion V30 still rules above all three of these
Celestion redbacks! But for this video i would say the swamp thang won
After your first video on guitar speakers I checked out the WGS Reaper and found their official IRs by Lancaster Audio. The Reaper IRs are probably the best I've ever played and I use them for everything, even clean and crunch stuff, not just metal. But I have to say, I'm really liking the Swamp Thang, the somehwat darker sound might serve me well too. Decisions, decisions...
i have to admit i still prefer the v30 as a "single" speaker. But the three combinations where you mix them are "richer" . Next time i suggest you to try out the creamback (both std and NEO versions), they are great sounding speakers to my ears.
Where da fuck is your beer?!?
I totally dig the Reaper to complent the v30 even though the Cv75 and veteran 30 were sick af too!
Awesome vid, as usual! Prost und immer gude Laune😝🤘🏽🍻
Great video and great question! Who is the King? I love them all for different applications! Both WGS and Celestion's get used every day here.
The swamp thing is so good with fuzz and for doom metal tones.
****IN MIX****
16:43 V30 MESA
17:43 WGS Veteran
16:31 Swamp Thang 16:55 +V30
17:07 CV-75 17:31 +V30
****OUT OF MIX****
18:23 MESA V30
19:23 WGV Veteran
18:11 Swamp Thang 18:35 +V30
18:47 CV-75 19:11 +V30
***GENERAL NOTES****
- All speakers are 8 ohms. 16 ohm speakers might sound a bit more scooped and fizzy.
- And.. Damn man! No Texas Heats!
****NOTES ON SOUND (Only in the mix)****
*S10 phone speaker:* really liking the Swamp Thangs or Swamp Thang/V30 MIX! The Swamp Thangs by themselves sound great. No harshness. No need to Do EQ dips in the high mids to remove snarlies.
*2014 Acura RDX with smiley face EQ and has a sub, but the sub isn't on full blast:*
Mesa V30 or CV-75 win. Swamp thing isn't clear enough up top, but if your tones are too trebley, the Swamp Thang could be your speaker. In the mix of Swamp Thang and V30, at least on this system, it would have been nicer to have the V30 louder and the Swamp Thang mixed underneath to fill out some of the V30 scoop... Or EQ the Swamp Thangs a bit on their own. There is something in the mids though that you can't get with the V30. I'm starting to think I need Swamp Thangs. Maybe in my THD 2x12 for testing and maybe in my Mesa cab later in an X-pattern. If I had An Emperor 6x12 cab, I'd probably put the Swamps as the two middle speakers and V30's for the remaining 4. Mic'ing live could be a pain though, trying to duplicate the phase relationship at every gig. Would probably sound sweet though.
Upon more listening, the CV-75 and V30 mix sound the best. The Swamp thing overpowers the V30 too much, at least in this demo, but the CV-75 works very well with the V30, adding a little extra something to the V30 sound without overdoing it. Now I need Swamp Thangs and CV-75's 😂. I wonder what those two would sound like together..
*Oontz Angle 3 Ultra Bluetooth speaker:*
Swamp Thang wins, closely followed by the V30 or CV-75. The WGS isn't bad here either. It might poke out in a mix more... I'm starting to get confused lol.
All of this can depend on placement of the speaker.
Swamp Thang and V30 mixed sound pretty good too, just adding a little bit of the Mesa's top end. The Mesa needs to be just a tiny bit louder.
The CV-75 and Mesa mix sounds pretty good too.
I'd go with the Swamp Thang or St miclxed with V30.
*2012 CRV with upgraded package:*
Alone, the V30 or Swamp Thang win. They're just different. The Swamp has more girth and has smoother highs. The Swamp Thang mixed with the V30 sounds like the way to go, but the V30 and CV-75 are pretty cool if you need more edge. The balance of either mixed pairwould just depend in the mix. WGS and CV-75 lose out on their own.
I migh check in some headphones and another car, but I'm leaning towards V30 and Swamp Thangs, with the CV-75 being a wild card. The V30 sounds pretty good everywhere, which is probably why it's so popular, but sometimes it's a little rarry sounding gere and there. The Swamp Thangs give and extra mod to low mid girth, if the V30 sounds too scooped, and the CV-75 has some high mod presence, but lower than where the v30's spike is.. And perhaps slightly less pinchy.
Will post more when listening on different speakers/headphones.
"For me Doom is Paradise Lost and My Dying Bride - not that Hippie Doom" - not only a great, competent tutor, but also a man of great taste. Well said, Mr. Kohle!
Thanks! Haha! I almost edited that one out!
Same for me Mr Kohle.....Old Anathema, Katatonia, Paradise Lost, My Dying bride, Celestial Season, Type O......yeah!!!!
@säge späne Hehe, aber nur, wenn man glaubt, es wäre gezieltes Sabbath bashing ;-)
@säge späne I think he's talking about stoner doom bands, which are really their own thing, for I don't consider them doom, but still really like them.
Proper Yorkshire music.
This is by far my favorite page on youtube now a days, keep em' coming!
Thanks man! Spread the word!
Mesa V30 + CV75 is a winner. Just kind of balances out the harshness in the upper mids of the V30. With all other speakers or combinations of them I felt like I needed to notch out some 3k. V30 + Swamp Thang did a similar thing but muddied up the lows and low mids quite a bit, making the sound feel farther away and less aggressive.
Funny enough I'm not very fond of V30s by themselves, but I liked the V30 the most from this batch. That said, V30 + Swamp Thang makes for a hell of a Grindcore Tone.
CV-75 with the high cut, sounds so interesting! And the low end is for bassists afterall! :D
R.I.P. URM Academy. To be honest your videos were the only ones I liked over there. Best of luck with your own channel - I'm sure it'll take off in no time!
Subbed btw.
Same here, subed to URM for your vids ^^
Have URM even done anything recently?
totally agree I only subed URM to watch his videos
+1
Haven't noticed it's not URM ahah! Subbed to this channel immediately!
They all sound great. Really loved the CV-75
In Mix
16:31 - Swamp Thang
16:43 - Vintage 30
17:07 - CV75
17:43 - Veteran 30
Solo Riff 1
18:10 - Swamp Thang
18:22 - Vintage 30
18:46 - CV75
19:22 - Veteran 30
Solo Riff 2
19:46 - CV75
19:54 - Vintage 30
20:01 - Veteran 30
20:16 - Swamp Thang
20:31 really liked the song!
I really love the way you are describing tones & sounds..it makes so much sense & so easy to connect the dots to why I like & dislike certain sounds & tones...sometimes I hear something I like or dislike but I can't put my finger on why, but you are filling those gaps for me...cheers!
Thanks for the spotlight on Eminence ! I’ve always been a fan of their products, especially the p50e that comes in the vht cabs and the Governor. Your video made me wanna try a swamp thang - cv 75 in a 2x12. I am curious how these would sound together
One of the most honest and detailed speaker comparison videos I get, come straight from you mate; well done again!
The Eminence CV 75 to me sounds really pleasing.
I'm running 2 swamp thangs and 2 Texas heats in a 4×12 and they sound great and sit well when set in a band practice situation. Sounds brutal through my Mesa Boogie Road King.
The eminence speakers seem to get overlooked often. That CV75 sounded pretty cool
I love the CV-75 mixed with the V-30 in the raw mix. Thought the swamp thing in the full mix had a perfect Where The Slime Live feel to them . You have me sold on the swamp thing where you did that pushed clean tone at the end through the Diezel.
Yeah, because Swamp Thang recreates that scooped twangy Fender blues tone
Interesting speakers and nice combos you did. Personal favourite v30 with Swamp Thang! Keep on the cool videos!
I truly love the CV-75s i feel that they are so underrated. I have them loaded in my Mojotone 2x12 and I run a EVH 6L6 50 and it slays both clean and in hi gain applications. Tight punchy and articulate.
The low end on the Swamp Thang is so dope. When you mixed it with the V30 I almost put my head through a wall (in a good way). I'd be interested to hear it combined with the WGS.
My fav too!
+1
@@KohleAudioKult I've been totally a victim to the influence, and bought the Swamp Thang IRs offerred by Eminence, which to no surprise are super thin (not sure why I hoped for oomph from a "country legend" engineer), and don't offer anything of the oversized Mesa cab's low end. I really hope your IR pack (which you really must bring out, as I really need you to take my money) will include the Swamp Thang and the ST+V30 blend you showed here, as they are pretty much the best cab sound I've heard so far (as far as youtube can deliver the sound quality) .
Im selling my swamp thang
@@bramdriessens5942 oohhh how much?
They all sounds great in different ways
The warehouse speaker surprised me! That thing sounds insane
I got 2 Reapers and 2 Retro 30's and i'm no longer looking...
I have several warehouse speakers and will probably not never purchase celestion again
A straight mesa oversized cabinet with v30's is the industry standard for a reason: it sounds better than everything else. Great video!
The V30 just sounds so familiar which makes it good. The "piercing highs" isnt really piercing per se but it really makes it present in the mix.
some of the highs to me through a sm75 mic sounded like ice cream cones or ice cicles instead of crushed ice or ice cream, mainly because of the mic and the placement required as well as monitor high end speaker quality. although in a room or on stage they sound great even the highs , although when pushed above usable gain and drives or highly stacked sounds they wash with aggressive playing and the cone gets ice picky and washes out, although with a 6 string with mild low and highs can get great mid def. and brightness because those ice pik locations help pull up the mids even when the highs are cut. although it has great highs for squelch and harmonics and solos it helps the highs stay thick and defined as well, so this was a very purpose hybrid type speaker originally a frankenstien tuned for live stage performance with volume demanding muddy amp setting players, and british sounds, the real heavy metal movement ordained by god, not the imposter hair band stuff that caught attention in place of the talk , it was about popularity by word of mouth and the fans were then intentionally mis directed not by the government, but the STATE and rich people gay fallen angel media to hair band 'metal' that was not very metal at all. and lipstick wearing. question : Did metallica wear lipstick? no , because they were part of the real 'metal' that everyone started an uproar over, as the creator themself loves real METAL. not the imposter copycat misleading artists and big money that stepped in and took it from us, now we have it, as it was not allowed on the mainstream radio before and was resisted. Like the tenacious D song states "they tried to destroy the metal". i still love to wear lipstick and kissing although i love my metal to be metal, not twink freelove mockery. Although the pushers of this temporarily stole metal's success, it was short lived, for we the people and god with us, the creator of the universe is with us, and we have the victory and now its evident since the late 90's. real metal has always been in heaven and is and always shall be. forever.
That CV-75 sounded like instant Carcass to me
wow kristian is actually a really good guitarist
Liked just for the opening riff, now watching the rest of it. So refreshing to have guitar tone videos by a great engineer who can actually also play!
V30 + CV75 = Paradise Lost. OMFG, and then literally as I'm typing this comment you say it yourself :D
Haha! There you go!
And thanks! I only play guitar when I do videos, haha!
Good luck with your new channel, I can see it's growing very quickly!
Thanks! Help me and spread the word!
I play a mix of WGS Veteran 30 and Reaper HP, these speakers compliment each other very nicely (tight lows, aggressive mids and clear crisp highs)! In your comparison I like the CV 75 the best.
Been using this combo as well for a few years and still my favorite I’ve had. I just got a Redback and trying to figure out what to pair with it. Might try a Swamp Thang
“To me, doom is like Paradise Lost and My Dying Bride, not that hippie doom” you are a man after my own heart.
Two of my favorite bands from the 90s!
18:11 swamp
18:47 cv75
18:59 v30
19:23 veteran30
Awesome comparison!! I actually just bought a swamp thing and love it mixed with a v30 like you did!! Thank you
Great combo!
CV-75 sounds interesting, even without hi-cut. V30 - most balanced(mid range). The main problem of the V30 are the spikes in the highs. But speakers made to be the V30 substitute have midrange spikes and holes.
These are some of the best metal-oriented videos on youtube. Really glad I discovered this channel. Just a quickie observation. I'm a (very much) older than average extreme metal player and was playing in bands in the 70's. Back then, and in the 80's as well, Eminence was considered to be cheap, generic stuff that nobody wanted, and they cost far less than a Celestion. Interesting to see how far they've come. They're now considered to be at least a respected and viable alternative to Celestion. And now nearly as expensive lol.
CV-75 sound clear even with dirty in the amp. To me is the best choice. The low-mids is clear and I love it for my thrash metal band!! Celestion is maybe the Coke in guitar speakers world, but Eminence has the right tone in speakers. They really knows and understand our metal sound
Loved your videos on URM and wondered why you weren't posting anymore. Glad I found you over here, another great video, subbed!
Great video!
I have to say that I'm not the biggest fan of the V-30. I often like the Creamback even more. And here I like the Eminence CV-75 the most. Maybe those speakers with the slightly lower mid-focus remind me of the 90s death and thrash sound, which wasn't as refined as today's.
But in this test I my favorite was the combination of both the V-30 and the CV-75.
Excellent comment!
I'm glad you got out on your own. Keep up the great work dude!
I'm Crazy curious what the Swamp thing and the Veteran 30 would have sounded like together.
I had both in a cab I used with my Marshall and it killed for drop tunings
Great comparison! Was a V30 fan forever but you're demo (and IRs!!!) of the CV-75 made me turn around. Love it, as well as the DV77!
The CV 75 sounds the "Toughest" of them all, that really dense mid range really accentuates chugs and fills the guitar out in the mix. The best blend was the Swamp Thing and the V30, all that thicc low end from the Swamp Thing with that upper mid bite of the V30 gives the guitar a really full sound with out being too woofy or harsh. Would love to see you expeiment with the system that Jerry Cantrell had on Dirt, a Rockman Pocket amp for the highs, a Bogner Estacy for the Mids, and a Bogner Fish Preamp for the lows.
I use the V30+Swamp Thang combo with my Revv G20. Heaviest tone in existence
This is one of the greatest videos on TH-cam. Where else would you be able to find this many pairings. I found my perfect combo: greenback/Texas heat.
I'd honestly say the Eminence CV-75 was the best sounding speaker out of the bunch.
agreed
It was definitely the best of all worlds wasn't it
@@AdamYoudell yes balanced yet . . . also very unique.
Never get tired of this mans content
That WGS Veteran 30 sounds really good to my ears!
Glad to see you again, man. Great video as ussual ). Love the swamp thang. Got it with a governor in my 2x12., but 16ohm versions.
The Swamp Thang and V30 used together had the overall best tone. I like the CV-75 the best on its own though. Almost Vox-y. Would love to hear the CV-75 and the Swamp Thing together.
Agree on the V30 / ST combo!
I used the CV-75 and the Eminence Red Fang in a 2*12 cabinet with a Vox AC30, and it worked perfectly.
I have a cv75/swamp thing mixed 1960A Marshall cab and it’s pretty awesome
The content on this page has been super useful! Keep the videos coming!
i think every one of these videos illustrates a great point. what can you ADD to a V30 to shape your tone. not one of them sounds "right" on their own, but using them to blend makes a unique, and generally good tone every time. V30 is salt and pepper. it's in all food. add other seasonings to it to make things truly interesting.
Good point!
Love this video! In my experience, Eminence Governors are the best for modern hi gain: tight-big lows, brutal mids, and tames the fizzy treble from hi gain amps. Sorry for my english, cheers from Argentina!
My take from this is that you get the best tones by combining different speakers
glad to see you back at it with your own youtube! Thanks to your speaker comparisons, i bought a g12-k100 and put it in my katana combo, which i also closed up the back of the cabinet to make it tighten up the low end and it sounds pretty awesome, and i ended up building my own 2x12 cabinet with an Eminence Man O War and Swamp Thang ( which i discovered from other research, but glad to see it in the video here and that you enjoy it, i friggin love it!). i was definitely missing your german style sarcasm and brutal honesty. Prost, mein Freund! Ich hoffe, wir sehen uns bald in der Facebook-Gruppe Heavy Metal Amps!
Geilo! Freut mich, zu hören, dass das hier Früchte trägt! Immer schön teilen die Videos. Haben viele noch nicht gerafft, dass ich jetzt hier bin.
Veteran 30 for the win! I have one and they’re amazing.🤘🏽
Vintage 30 still the king for me if I am recording a single cab. I give it the R121+SM57 treatment, and I get a bit of that ‘fullness’ that way. Great video, cheers!
for the stuff you played here with that baritone, I absolutely loved the swamp thing by itself. I think I’d love a Warehouse and Vintage 30 mix for me tho
They all sound great! I don't believe you can go wrong with any of them.
Not the same mic position, trying to make every speaker sound good.
That is the mark of a true professional.
Subscribed.
Yeahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Great video! That british voiced on was my favourite by far!
Wow, the CV-75 is so full of what I always lack in my V30-go-to-sound ! I was looking for a great combination and actually think that I will go for it ! BTW, I absolutely love your videos, keep going with your humble, friendly, good sense o humor and profesionalism content you're providing us with.
Greetings from French Guyana, where metal has still a long way to go
THanks a lot! And make FG more METAL please!
Greetings from Trinidad!
I am just an old hack, but I have had a lot of speakers, cabs, gear, ect. My favorite is the g12-65 rola..... It is only 65W but I did a back to back to back 4x12 with a mesa dual rect. Mesa V30, Marshall G12-65, and Marshall G12-T75, and later a Marshall MF cab with those MF30v, Eminence red coat, recently G12h30 in an Avatar cab. The 65's have a lower smoother mid curve. More crunch like a G12-T75, but don't get all loose and rumbly. A bit brighter. Thanks for the enlightenment on recording guitar. Peace.
think the V30 works best in a mix but I wouldn’t be mad at any of the others though.
I'm saving money for a custom cab and now you gave me a very good option
While I did not like CV-75 alone at all, it sure sounded the best in the mix. The guitar just pops.
Really suprised how good the CV-75 sounded! The Combination with the V30 definitely sounded the best to my ears.
Eminence Texas Heat and Swamp Twang were used in the cabs that Dimebag used. A *very* underrated combo/speakers imo.
Are you sure? I'm pretty certain he used jaguar speakers
@@h_exterm2779 he used the Jags during his early Randall days, but used the Tex Heat in later days if I’m not mistaken. They were sold in his Krakenstein cab for sure.
I'm paring the ST with the Wizard
I have blended Jaguars with Swamp Thangs for a friend of mines guitar tone in a demo I recorded for him.... He is a big Dime fan and uses pretty much only Randall..... Got good results.... Would bet the Jags and Swamps would sound good in a cab together
You make 2020 so much cooler. Thank you!
Vin 30 + Swamp Thang. Amazing demo!!!
Thanks man! Same here. That's a great combo!
I learn so much from your channel. Thank you, sir!
The Greenback is actually one of my favorite speakers. It was on Heartwork, so.... That's gotta account for something.
with the brunetti: swamp thang
with the d-moll: V30
personal favourite: v30 for "old school" 80s kinda stuff, K100 for more modern metal sounds.
I really loved the wgs v 30. Sounded nice and tight to me
I have owned a ton of speakers all brands and styles. I really love the Eminence P-50's. I have a too many 4x12 cabs, I have a P-50 Loaded Fryette and a V-30 Mesa. The Fryette wins almost every time on a recording. Hearing that Swamp Thing and V-30 was Sick! I might have to buy one and load it in one of my 2x12's as a test run. Great demo, Thanks Kristian
I said it before over when you were on URM, but I'd really like to hear some A/B comparison between 8 & 16 ohm speakers. I have always thought that 16 ohm was the way to go, but it would be nice to know if there is a difference.
Oh yeah! That's on the list.
16s are a bit brighter than 8s because of increased voice coil inductance.
@@davidfuller581 on the other hand 16 ohm taps on the output transformer (assuming we talk about a tube amp) have higher inter-winding capacitance. But a general rule of thumb we do not leave dead, unused windings on the OT, so the highest available tap is preferable.
i like the 4 Ohm speakers, well that is after they are all together the ohms change. right? i forgot.
I've had cv-75s before in a 6505 112 now I have a Marshall 1960 with V30s
I'm torn between V30/ Swamp Thang, V30/Cv-75s and Swamp Thang/ Cv-75
The Veteran 30 was a bit nasal sounding, but still pretty good.
Swamp Thing was my favorite, I guess.
This is a great video to combine different speakers for a fuller sound. Thanks!
Love the Swampthang.
I loved the Swamp Thing! I tried to buy 8 of these for two 4x12s I made like 15 years ago! I couldn't get them into Australia back then! But this has inspired me to get at least 2 for my Mesa Cab. I use the Mesa Stiletto amp and its extremely concentrated in the high mids and presence. My theory is the darker tone will tame some of the amp natural brightness! Cheers mate.
Thanks man! And yes, V30s and STs are a great combo!
This was very helpful because I play through a 2x12 cab with the Chinese V-30s, and I hate the upper mids they have. I think the CV-75 is what I need.
I love these types of comparison videos, great production. Please keep it up.
If they weren't so much work, haha! I'll keep on doing them, no worries!
CV 75 could be very good for modern metal. At least it feels like one. It would of been nice if you can try those speakers with 7-8 string guitars. Cheers.
Good video! Wanna see your take on layering guitars and parts.
Noted!
That CV-75 sounds way better in a mix than a lot of the others, so good
i know it’s not popular choice for metal but i love the distant sounding alnico speakers found in vox cabs. they were only available in 15w but then celestion made a 50 and 90 w version opening a door for metal guys to try. I myself have a 12 alnico gold and right next to it in a different closed cab there is a 12 guyatone made in japan with the big black magnet on the back. the difference is the in highs. the growl on the gold is incomparable
Hell yeah, more speaker demos! TH-cam is sorely lacking. The Swamp Thang has a killer bottom end but it feels kinda muffled in the top end by comparison. Love the Swamp Thang + V30 combo. Fat as hell!
CV75... Maybe because I have the 16 ohm version it's a bit closer to the V30, but mine is definitely not that dark. The Warehouse has that annoying hissy fizz beam but moreso than the V30, so... pass.
Ive had a swamp thang for many years and I like it specifically because it tames the high end :o
The CV75 sound depends so much on the mic placement, it's crazy.
@@KohleAudioKult yeah, I noticed that too. It's like it beams at a different frequency than the speaker it's based on.
Been listening to speaker reviews and all signs were pointing at vintage 30s, but that veteran 30 is now in the conversation.
Honestly combinations with the V30 are just amazing. Very interesting to see what you can get by combining different speakers.
Thanks! The combinations were my favs too.
I believe i had eminence in an old Ampeg 4/12 guitar cabinet,in my Stones band,also then Marshall cabs with greenbacks,really loved em ,and those old times.
Hi there! There's any chance you could test some Jensen Speakers?
Tks in advance... AAANNNNDDDD Cheers from Brazil!
I tested the Tornado Stealth in my first video. You find it in the URM Academy playlist
Found your channel through produce like a pro. Awesome channel I'm trying to catch up on all your video's. I like the swamp thang and v30 combo.
CV-75 is more complex , I think it is beautiful for single notes, It has melting character for solos. Also on crunch tones I think excels pretty much.
The Swamp Thang has something special going on, for shure. A really deep throaty sound, could be cool on some really heavy, saturated guitar parts
The WGS Veteran sounds great but... The WGS Retro 30 sounds quite better! Not so clinical. That said the combination of a Veteran or a retro 30 with a reaper or a guvnor sounds great!
I had a custom 4x12” built out of my old Ikea bookshelves loaded with Retro 30’s and Governors, sounds fantastic!!
I really like the V30 and the Swampthang together. That tone has it all.
Great combo. You find that combo in my new IR pack at Bogren Digital too.
CV-75 sounds awesome. We need more sizzle in metal tones these days. It's supposed to sound brutal right?
Indeed! That sizzle is way above brootal though
How does the cv-75 compare to the creamback 75h?! Any experience folks? Tks a lot
Of course no Weber speakers. Hand built Weber Tone Cvlt series, blow those production line speakers away.
Fr, those sound SO heavy
Speakers are way too easy to build to benefit from being "hand built." That's like celebrating hand built Oreos that cost $20 per box.
@@nimrodery -Regardless the Weber speakers sound better.