Mercedes CLS AMG vs Porshe Panamera GTS - Fifth Gear

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  • The guys are putting the Mercedes CLS AMG and the Porshe Panamera GTS to the test on the Castle Combe circuit but in a moment of madness, Vicki gives the keys to Johnny. For more fantastic car reviews, shoot-outs and all your favourite Fifth Gear moments, subscribe to our Official Channel - / fifthgearuk
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  • @UnhookedMkk
    @UnhookedMkk 9 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    That's not fair , you can't compare a CLS63 to a GTS. You have to compare to the Turbo.

    • @davisdunlap7560
      @davisdunlap7560 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I agree that it doesn't make sense to compare these two in terms of performance, as the Panamera S/GTS matches up better with the CLS 550 (and the Panamera Turbo and Turbo S match with the CLS63 and CLS63S), but I think what they were going for was an even comparison with respect to price. They both start in the neighborhood of $110,000, but even then, the $116k GTS is a good bit more than the $106k CLS63, and that's before getting into the ridiculous options prices for which Porsche is famous...

    • @UnhookedMkk
      @UnhookedMkk 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're right, Davis. I do agree with you on that.

    • @GTRS-qh4mw
      @GTRS-qh4mw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Davis Dunlap thats true but they should have mentioned it!

    • @simeonmezov7318
      @simeonmezov7318 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next time compare it to panamera diesel so the mercedes victory is even more obvious.

    • @OverlandTT
      @OverlandTT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kameron Sumlin I’d choose the naturally aspirated Porsche anyway over the Mercedes, it won’t fall to pieces lol

  • @thrillathakilla
    @thrillathakilla 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The porche looks like it's been run over by a JCB but Vicki's laugh Certainly sounds like it!

  • @foca2002
    @foca2002 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Stop with the Porsche Panamera Turbo BS.
    The price gap between the CLS 63 to the Panamera Turbo you can buy one A Class, the price gap between the Turbo S and the CLS and you can buy a CLA 45AMG and have £10.000 to spend on gas.

  • @rosenfeld8
    @rosenfeld8 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    power wil nearly always be the defining factor for the lap time of a normal person

    • @BYSMA4th
      @BYSMA4th 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is so true. Through the corners the average person will go through at a speed he/she thinks is safe, not necessarily. what the car is capable of.

  • @030Cappucino
    @030Cappucino 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It's not Erol Conk who made the engine it's Erol Cenk. Just hard to read.

    • @cem330
      @cem330 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sauvag E. Yep, Turkish. And the 'C' is pronounced as J.

  • @IIAJIOMHuK
    @IIAJIOMHuK 9 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    She even laughs like tires squeal

    • @jeffyc1420
      @jeffyc1420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      She isssss 😆😆😆😆

  • @TheNightDriver
    @TheNightDriver 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It does take a lot more skill to unlock the handling and braking advantages of a Porsche, but the AMG still has a massive power advantage.

  • @adrianwaterman133
    @adrianwaterman133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vicki laugh is such a winner

  • @Resnorth
    @Resnorth 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    they both are perfect as usual. only germans can do PERFECT cars. neither americans, not italians, not british.

    • @Narrowcros
      @Narrowcros 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Italians come close though, the problem with British cars is reliabilty. However, I agree German cars are the best

    • @Tarsha527
      @Tarsha527 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet the la ferrari is faster than all german car and the P1 as well

  • @raphymartinez
    @raphymartinez 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love Vicki....just wanted to say that

  • @gl0boy764
    @gl0boy764 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are these in the same category?

  • @joeshmuckatelli4447
    @joeshmuckatelli4447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the GTS and not the Turbo? That would have been more comparable; both cars having twin turbo V8's, and similar HP and Tq numbers. It doesn't make sense. Did you guys not have access to one?

  • @kiraiseverywhere
    @kiraiseverywhere 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    J'adore les voiture

  • @ntokozor4
    @ntokozor4 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why didn't you use the Panamera Turbo? Please next time compare the M6 GT and the CLS.

  • @darksideofmind91
    @darksideofmind91 10 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Dafuq is "Porshe" ? XD

  • @dkvikingkd233
    @dkvikingkd233 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the AMG is nice, but I love the Panamera!!

  • @fikes73
    @fikes73 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love both cars. The Panamera Turbo is bonkers though. Crazy fast

  • @Lukeskywanka
    @Lukeskywanka 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the way she laughs

  • @stevenjr6582
    @stevenjr6582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just get the Porsche ,is pure racing pedigre!

  • @deanlutgert8292
    @deanlutgert8292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why do all these journalists say its ugly I think it's the sleeekest sedan out there

  • @CLS63AMGS
    @CLS63AMGS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why not the 585HP CLS the S version?

  • @Molineitor_
    @Molineitor_ 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it should have been the panamera turbo or turbo s

  • @albertmah2035
    @albertmah2035 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    should have been panny turbo s vs cls63

  • @pesuruhjayasumpahmelaka
    @pesuruhjayasumpahmelaka ปีที่แล้ว

    Both were born in Stuttgart and both are world renowned... Not a feat an average Joe or Jane would achieve 10/10 times 😅

  • @NirHason
    @NirHason 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even when I set the vid to run at 1080p it's still bad quality and actually it's not changing a bit from 480p. Try to use HD cam or upload better quality files...

  • @mohsinzaigham3950
    @mohsinzaigham3950 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Mercedes benz cls 63 ///AMG is the best four door car in my opinion

  • @MoeSalamaIbrahim
    @MoeSalamaIbrahim 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Note: The unit of toruqe is pound-foot (pound times foot) not pound/foot (pound per foot) which is a compelely different physical unit

  • @Ride-Fly
    @Ride-Fly 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice cars but Id have to go with the AMG I love the sound and if I were to buy a porsche it would have to be a 911.

  • @BobbyDazlerRS
    @BobbyDazlerRS 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love castle combe

  • @deanlutgert8292
    @deanlutgert8292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should of compared it to the turbo

  • @ghost_iceman11
    @ghost_iceman11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    He called her a refined racing driver 😂

  • @TheSuperMotoHooligan
    @TheSuperMotoHooligan 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nutz

  • @unitxteam9863
    @unitxteam9863 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Porsche doesn't ahve any light mod, check at those Benz lights!!

  • @ToiletDeflecter
    @ToiletDeflecter 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    "We'll start with the cialis"

  • @silversurfer3636
    @silversurfer3636 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bad race! AMG is MBZ tuned top of line while GTS is 2nd from top. Now use the Turbo-s and tables will turn!

  • @CurmudgeonExtraordinaire
    @CurmudgeonExtraordinaire 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, only 1 second difference in the times. That's really not much -- well within the normal variation of a driver going around a course like that.

  • @superb63amg94
    @superb63amg94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shout out to Erol Cenk, he also built the engine in my CLS 63 AMG. That's crazy!😳👍

    • @stringer-ik1pc
      @stringer-ik1pc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you a Pakistani taxi driver.???

  • @paulstefan357
    @paulstefan357 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the best 4 Doors coupe ever made

    • @megarafjogos
      @megarafjogos 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Paul Stefan hmm... m3 or m4? rs7?

    • @paulstefan357
      @paulstefan357 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +megaraf jogos rs7 is a car? :))))copy vw

    • @megarafjogos
      @megarafjogos 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Stefan dacia sandero?

  • @mostafaghoneim101
    @mostafaghoneim101 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dat Laugh.

  • @shep41682
    @shep41682 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For that test they should have used a panamera turbo.

    • @Top_Gear_Clips_Central
      @Top_Gear_Clips_Central 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would’ve destroyed the merc tho and they wanted to make it fair to the merc

  • @gordonmccoy4537
    @gordonmccoy4537 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anybody can drive fast in a strait... I'll take the Porsche for more fun and safety in the curves anytime... (and to hell what the neighbors think...).

  • @videowsatcher
    @videowsatcher 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    fastest 4 doors?- The all wheel drive E63s and Panamera Turbo are faster then both

  • @kirkhammond5433
    @kirkhammond5433 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why is it they always test the porsche gts against turbo mercs and bimmers? Try the turbo or turbo s . Lights out

    • @rudy9895
      @rudy9895 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly

    • @Tarsha527
      @Tarsha527 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Until you bring out the even more powerful S model of CLS 63

    • @davisdunlap7560
      @davisdunlap7560 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Latarsha Berdin Actually, no, not really. Its very close, in fact. Maybe that's what you meant, but I doubt it. Putting aside the inevitably conservative manufacturers' ratings, note that Car & Driver got 0-60 sprints as low as 3.6 seconds for both the Panamera Turbo S and the Mercedes CLS63 AMG S, and Motor Trend got 3.4 out of both for the same. Additionally, the Merc sports a top speed of 186 mph and the Porsche 192. So both are about the same in terms of straight-line speed. However, the Porsche is clearly a better driver's car, as Motor Trend was about to extract 1.03g of lateral grip out of the Panamera, compared to 0.97g in the CLS. This was demonstrated clearly enough by the fact that the Porsche posted a lap time of 1:22.68 on the Streets of Willow, whereas the Mercedes took 1:24.71; for comparison, note that the Ferrari 458 Italia posted a 1:22.30. I think the lap time disparity is probably due in large part to the Porsche's more advanced AWD system (borrowed from Audi and upgraded to handle the torque) and its huge carbon ceramic brakes. This is made even more impressive by the fact that the Porsche has to haul around an extra 173 lbs. of curb weight!

    • @av8743
      @av8743 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Davis Dunlap the cls63 by road and track tested at 3.2s 0-60
      Also, mod to mod, let’s say both tuned the amg will smash the Porsche easily in straight line speed.

  • @chudijohnbosco25
    @chudijohnbosco25 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    MB is all about a name. The Audi RS6 would make the cls 63 amg a shame. Quote me!

  • @icreatevalue
    @icreatevalue ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The CLS is a Turbo, so why didn’t you use the Panamera Turbo??? This video is inaccurate!

  • @fullfist
    @fullfist 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i would rather own the Pan

  • @paulcollins1881
    @paulcollins1881 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are compareable by price, no?

    • @michaelsieber98
      @michaelsieber98 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes of course they are the Porsche cost 121000 euro and the cls63 amg cost 117000 euro so the better car is even cheaper

    • @SIMcityplayer2002
      @SIMcityplayer2002 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      But the Porsche Panamera GTS a is like a 911 GT3, compare the CLS63 with it's actual competition (Panamera Turbo S) and it would lose.

  • @martinmarinov505
    @martinmarinov505 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    They compare cars with similar price. The turbo S is way more expensive.

  • @nemesis4785
    @nemesis4785 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Porsche.* (note spelling, Fifth Gear)

  • @TheFreakyGames
    @TheFreakyGames 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Its called Porsche :) Not Porshe

  • @mrbenz6127
    @mrbenz6127 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Engine build by erol cenk not "conk" hehe

  • @jamalpeterson117
    @jamalpeterson117 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He did not have it in turbo

  • @dm7559
    @dm7559 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Um. Audi RS7, please?

    • @cyrose1935
      @cyrose1935 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are 2011 cars mate otherwise I agree with you

  • @bogdanbraga
    @bogdanbraga 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no no no no you are crazy fifth gear you would better put a turbo gts is not the correct choice

  • @munarbi2916
    @munarbi2916 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everethyng Panamera bast for me

  • @wujekdanny2342
    @wujekdanny2342 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont't know cls with 548 hp...

  • @zohaaibhaider1014
    @zohaaibhaider1014 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    there is a beast call Mercedes Benz CLS63 AMG for people talking about PORSCHE GTS models Botha cars are equal what can I say I love both cars but I'll go for CLS 550amg

  • @q4h4r26
    @q4h4r26 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    a turbo S would leave the benz in dust ;)

    • @whispercars306
      @whispercars306 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the mercedes CLS63 or CL63 amg with performance package from amg which has 900 nm torque and 570hp would have left the turbo s in the dust. The Renntech CLS63 or CL63 AMG has 670hp and 1044nm torque which would kill the porsche.

    • @q4h4r26
      @q4h4r26 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hahahahaa dude, price wise you can't compare them. if that was the case then a lambo would've smoked them

    • @PorscheGTS
      @PorscheGTS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      GT2 ,918 SPYDER ,OR THE Porsche Carrera GT WOULD DATE RAPE ANY RENNTECH!!!!!!!

  • @moivraiment2930
    @moivraiment2930 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Its called PORSCHE not PORSHE...

  • @BenzinioB
    @BenzinioB 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Definitely I prefer to cruise down the street in the CLS better looking better sounding and in public road better to drive! Panamera is just to ugly and the badge is not enough! I hardly believe the Panamera sportiness is so obvious in a day to day use...

  • @NISasquatch
    @NISasquatch 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Stupid test, why wouldn't you use a Panamera Turbo?

    • @davidgressli1691
      @davidgressli1691 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that they just wanted to compare a car with so much power vs a car that has less power (Panamera GTS), and the GTS did so good as well! :)

  • @lmirarv4797
    @lmirarv4797 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    only AMG

  • @napolmen
    @napolmen 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    maserati?

  • @kicikocani1
    @kicikocani1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    bi turbo with no turbo fair comparison fools

  • @kennedyhow1997
    @kennedyhow1997 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is bmw 6 ?

    • @brianaluwani7642
      @brianaluwani7642 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stark somewre over the side of the road

  • @sachin1006
    @sachin1006 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:40, was that a sexual reference....

    • @davidgressli1691
      @davidgressli1691 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You better check out this mate: 3:17 - I laughed so hard when I heard that 😁

  • @muchejin
    @muchejin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey what if you put the name porsche correctly? It sounds funny porshe.... like saying mersedes cls ang lol

  • @datura_boof
    @datura_boof 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    funny he doesnt even know how to use sport traction in the cls63

  • @RAPFlavour87
    @RAPFlavour87 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why wear 2 watches at the same time?

    • @KMWNA
      @KMWNA 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Diego Maradona knows why ))

  • @ElTyranto
    @ElTyranto 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Title and Description wrong

  • @DOGGYGONE1
    @DOGGYGONE1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏😄🎉🎄

  • @MrCosmin94
    @MrCosmin94 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    why not Panamera turbo S ? I won't even watch the video.

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    @luxuryviplifestyle9494 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @ico9750
    @ico9750 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He has a crush on her

    • @Wolfenkuni
      @Wolfenkuni 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what straight man does not have a crush on her?

  • @NothingNowhere4
    @NothingNowhere4 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    panamera turbo! duh.

  • @MrBingping
    @MrBingping 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I don't know how Porsche sells any of these horribly ugly cars when the Maserati quattroporte is cheaper. I understand that the panamera is a fantastic driving car, but the exterior is vomit inducing.

    • @Narrowcros
      @Narrowcros 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its the back, looks like a whale. Everything else is perfect but the back kills it

    • @davisdunlap7560
      @davisdunlap7560 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is quite hideous, yes, but not only does the Maserati rock cheap-ish hard-plasticy switchgear pulled from the Chrysler-Fiat corporate parts bin, but the trim and leather isn't up to snuff for anything wearing the trident badge, and the transmission is reportedly rather clunky when the throttle isn't wide open. Most importantly, the Quattroporte lacks the biggest selling point for most Maseratis: the high-revving, Ferrari-built, flat-plane crankshaft V8. These are just a few of the many reasons why the Quattorporte is cheaper. Its exciting, yes, but lacks the refinement, build quality, and motorsport pedigree of the Porsche

    • @sperlongatours
      @sperlongatours 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MrBingping panamera actually makes more sense to me than other sedans, because its made to look more like a supercar than a sedan

    • @ShadowMKII
      @ShadowMKII 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Davis Dunlap I love Maserati, but all of your facts are sound and I agree with you. I would love to see Maserati get some air under its wings and be able to (re-)start building their cars with genuine quality and performance like they used to.
      Nice cars; all three of them.

    • @tonycool100
      @tonycool100 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MrBingping maserati is the true ugliest luxury sport car in the market

  • @Jesusisking.com11
    @Jesusisking.com11 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can’t beat Merc
    There’s no use in trying

  • @diegoillanes2440
    @diegoillanes2440 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Panamera is The old One. 😒

  • @Ghostystuff
    @Ghostystuff 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    FI v NA pointless comparison

  • @sofiaoscco5264
    @sofiaoscco5264 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    pesimo

  • @kristian6622
    @kristian6622 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why did you not compare the CLS with the
    Panamera Turbo?? Terrible Review Fifth Gear!

    • @thelarry383
      @thelarry383 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      because there would be too big of a price difference. why can't people understand this???

    • @turboman1505
      @turboman1505 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Light Yagami The average person just doesn't decide to buy one of these cars because they saved enough money. Most people buy cars like these because they are filthy rich. And chances are that if they can buy a GTS, more than likely they'll afford a Turbo as well. It all boils down to what the rich want.

    • @NothingNowhere4
      @NothingNowhere4 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Light Yagami Yeah, but from a horse power standpoint, it would have been a much more accurate test. Although, even with the Panamera Turbo, the Benz would still have an h.p. advantage.

  • @chudijohnbosco25
    @chudijohnbosco25 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Audi RS6 would make a shame of the cls 63 amg anytime. Quote me!

  • @tiampuso1
    @tiampuso1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the GTS should be faster than the CLS - driver error

  • @neptunevibe
    @neptunevibe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hand worked.. What a piece of shit of a lie. Keeping in mind how many AMG cars are out there then half the working men in Germany should work at Mercedes-Benz. And second hand built is another name for junk and unreliable. What made cars reliable and secure and all the same was the robots and automation in general.

  • @Oregon696969
    @Oregon696969 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think UK women probably eat a lot of sausages.

  • @marvinmarshall8884
    @marvinmarshall8884 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Take the merc over the Porsche its hideous

  • @posro1988
    @posro1988 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Porsche but panamera is fugly

  • @juanpablocorreiaecheverria2857
    @juanpablocorreiaecheverria2857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Porshe

  • @neptunevibe
    @neptunevibe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I drove both the panamera and the 911 and no. They are not the same. Panamera is a junk

  • @planespotter7572
    @planespotter7572 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Porsche is ugly, the CLS looks drop dead gorgeous

  • @Molineitor_
    @Molineitor_ 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it should have been the panamera turbo or turbo s

    • @Utsukushi91
      @Utsukushi91 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      too big of a price difference between the two then

    • @NothingNowhere4
      @NothingNowhere4 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      nforspeed91 they compare zr1s to Ferraris all the time around the track, and even though the Ferrari cost 3 times as much, the vette always rwins.. obviously a panamera with 424 hp vs the benzes 548 is going to be slower. the turbo would have been a more compelling test.

  • @chudijohnbosco25
    @chudijohnbosco25 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    MB is all about a name. The Audi RS6 would make the cls 63 amg a shame. Quote me!

    • @SIMcityplayer2002
      @SIMcityplayer2002 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Panamera Turbo S would make the CLS lose, and so would the RS7.

    • @quentinfreeman7516
      @quentinfreeman7516 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe in the past when the CLS was rear wheel drive. Now that the CLS 63 AMG S model is here with more power, you're quite wrong. The Audi will lose because it's slower, heavier, and less powerful. I will admit it could either way with the Porsche because it's only less power and weighs less, but it has a torque disadvantage.

    • @quentinfreeman7516
      @quentinfreeman7516 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More powerful and all wheel drive