Laurel Canyon Episode 3 (Part 2): RE-EDITED VERSION - "The Kirkwood Bowl"
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- The is the RE-EDITED VERSION third episode (Part 2) of our Laurel Canyon miniseries, by Wolf River Music Television. A Journey Thru History and Song 1965-1974 explores the inner workings of the music scene that seemed to explode out of this area north of Hollywood in the mid-1960's and featured legendary musicians and groups such as: The Byrds, The Mamas and The Papas, Buffalo Springfield, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, CSNY, The Doors, Frank Zappa, Carole King, The Eagles, Gram Parsons, Love, Jackson Browne, The Monkees, etc. plus music industry giants such as David Geffen, Elliot Mintz, Jim Ladd, Ron Stone and Paul Rothchild. See the famous Canyon Country Store, Love Street, the Tom Mix Cabin, the Houdini Estate, and all of the other places made famous by the likes of Jim Morrison, Cass Elliot, John Lennon and others. We'll even touch on some of the darker elements that were lurking within the shadows such as the Manson Family and the inevitable evils of cocaine and heroin and they crept into the scene, causing havoc and destruction. No matter how many times this subject of music coming out of Laurel Canyon has been repeated in other documentaries, there's always something new to learn and discover. The stories are endless and some of it can be surprising and even downright shocking. Please be sure to watch all eight episodes. Each one has a different theme and a different set of characters and events. www.wolfriverm...
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You had me until “maybe even not of this world”. You have been too long in caly
I don't live in California. And that comment was meant as a joke. Thanks for watching.
@@memoryfield you do a great job. Sorry i didnt catch the joke
Thanks, and not a problem. The tongue-in-cheek motif of this entire segment is subtle and I wonder if a lot of folks out there are just taking me way too seriously on all of this. This entire story is just way too bizarre to take it without a healthy grain of salt.
@@memoryfield I have read all of Steve Hodel’s books. And they are just incredible. I’m entirely convinced GH was responsible for all or most of the “lone woman murders” and Elizabeth Short and also the little girl in Chicago. Not so convinced about Zodiac, but he makes a very good argument for that possibility. Laurel Canyon makes for a very good subject of study.
I appreciate your attention to detail, Billy. You would be a great teacher. Thank you for doing what you do. These bios and stories are also great for posterity. It seems as though my generation might be the last to truly remember how much these groundbreaking musicians' music and songs changed our world. I'm so glad I was a teenager in the early 1970's. Again, thank you for what you do.✌❤🎸
You are very welcome and thank you so much for all of your very kind comments. More coming very soon. Promise. :)
I can't stop watching your videos! Love your sense of humor. 😊
Oh I love this stuff....
How do you not have more subscribers, is beyond me.. Nice job and keep up the great work..
Not sure how I found these videos but this stuff is awesome. Great job.
I was totally captivated by this story. Thanks for taking the time to research the history to bring it to life for your audience.
Yippee yay Kayo. That was FASCINATING. How could she have died if she was immortal.
Maybe she didn't really die. I wonder if she just got tired of this world and decided to "pass over" into a different realm in order to continue to seek out younger male alien life forms.
I am loving this series and thank you for all the work you do to show us things we would never be able to see without your help.
Are those cedar shake shingles? (Seen by drone) I would have thought they would be a fire hazard! Looks awesome, though!
Wow, that whole story about Kiyo, the Doc, and his son. . . that blew my mind. I never knew!
This would make a great movie. Creepy but great
I knew about George Hodel, but the Kayo stuff was all new to me. Best episode yet.
After John Densmore left the ground level house, I moved into the same place (Oct.`1967) while John moved up to a spare bedroom in the main house for a few months. I knew Kiyo well, she was an astrologer at the time. The house your drone identified as Neil Young's shack is incorrect. I moved into that shack about June 1969 after the main house cesspool kept overflowing under the ground level house. I visited Neil's shack a few times and it was on the same level as the main house, a bit to the east. Originally it had been the gardener's residence. The builder of the house at 8461 Utica Drive was Lash LaRue, a western movie star,
Steve Hodel is a lovely guy.
Imelda Kiyoko Tachibana. Love these videos.
Just watched The Ten Commandments on TMC a while back, and saw Kiyo in it. What a trip.
Thanx again for these videos Billy. All us musicians got to stick together as they are trying to finish us with AI.
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Love how you are taking us down these long and winding roads and into the mists of time associated with so many colorful characters with famous names! Keep it coming....we aren't going anywhere!😊
Our pleasure! We actually had a lot of fun doing this as well. So yeah, still more to come very soon. Check back with us in a couple of days!
Your work on this series is *incredible*. I can't believe the depth and breadth of research and information you have published with this series. I honestly can *not* think of another TH-cam series that is *this* exhaustive. Kudos! My hat is off to you, sir! Really, this sort of work justifies TH-cam's existence beyond 99.9% of the fluff and waste that is stored on the TH-cam servers. This is the standard by which all others should be measured. I'm absolutely sincere. You have my attention, my subscription and a like for each one!
This is my new favorite series on the subject. So detailed & entertaining. Anyone else pausing to look up these addresses like me???
Thanks so much for your comments, and yes that is a really cool thing to do with Google Earth, etc. I certainly spent a lot of time doing that just as a way to plan where I was going to go to make these documentaries. :)
@@memoryfield Your efforts are appreciated. This series is more informative than any documentary I’ve seen on the subject. Thank you.
What a great series, just fascinating - I, too was a teenager in the early '70s so I can relate to all of the musical personalities so far and it's wonderful to see where and how they lived in that special time and place.
Thank you so much for saying all of that. Very kind. Glad you found us here!
Excellent. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another great re-edit! Really looking forward to more album reviews...I'll never forget sifting through all the amazing records in the 70s....hanging out in the local record store......anticipating the release of the latest Zeppelin or Pink Floyd record....." Those Were The Days My Friend"......
You and me both! Yes, more to come. Just trying to overcome my laziness, lol.
So much history! Thoroughly informative video. Thank you!
Our pleasure! We had a lot of fun with it. Thanks for watching. :)
I guessed incorrectly - i guessed Steve McGarrit from Hawaii Five-Oh
More like Hollywood Five-0.
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this guy knows his stuff
Very kind of you to say so. Thanks so much for watching!
And when Neil could no longer drive his car up the hill..He wrote the song Running Up that Hill and later gave it to Kate Bush. The rest is musical history..😃
Well, he lost out on a lot of money then, didn't he? Apparently, she's raking it in right now.
you are very interesting
Wow more really good work Billy there sure was some weird shit went on down there, even before the rock and roll years, what are you gonna come up with after this is all done.
Oh, I'll think of something to keep from being bored. Maybe record another album myself and try to become a legend, lol.
I just love the way you present your videos as I find pure joy and peace while watching it. Thank you for being fun and informative at the same time. The background is, also, very peaceful and beautiful. Plus, you are awesome yourself.
Haha, well that was very kind of you. Thank you so much for watching and there is more on the way very soon. :)
Wow! Omg .. 😱
Dr Hodel’s daughter Tamar was close friends with one Michelle Phillips of THE MAMAS AND THE PAPAS
I really enjoy your videos!
I appreciate that!
Fantastic. Excellent. Amazing. Man... Best stuff I've found on YT in a while. You do the detective work!
Wow, thanks! Very much appreciated and so glad you found us here.
Great show. Our era.❤😂
This episode and the black Dahlia reference is blowing my mind. I've always been intrigued by that mystery. I'm not even at the part of Neil Young and all that. Wow I'm glad my friend recommended this Laurel Canyon mini series.
that is some crazy sh..
Hi awesome kirkwood bowl and the mystery of the Black Dahlia homicide. I watched the movie called i am the night? With Chris Pine and India Eisley as Fauna Hodel. Not sure if this was based on the true story of the Black Dahlia. I have never knew Kiyo was half Japanese and actress. Thankyou for sharing this story very mysterious though👍🏻
This episode made me pour another glass of wine and subscribe!
Good tunes throughout, and great outtro.
Thanks for saying that, Nick. We appreciate your comments and we're so glad you found us here. Thanks for subscribing! More to come.
This is all so interesting. I was born in 71. I'm familiar with the music, that whole scene. I love the Doors especially. But the history of this magical era has always been a blur, so these vids are a treasure trove. I really recommend Krieger's book too, he calls out Rothchild on that jazz comment.
That's awesome. I need to get Krieger's book. I read about the Rothchild comments in Densmore's book but he didn't seem to elaborate on the topic very much. Thanks for watching!
Cheers to all those born in 1971
I just found you and love and appreciate how obsessed you get with all your amazing research! Absolutely identify w your need to know and thank you for sharing! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️
Thank you so much!
Great series, really love it :) :)
So happy to hear that! We appreciate people like you.
I did some reading up on Kiyo after watching Part 1, and you're not the only one who thinks she got Steve to be a cop to be her instrument of vengeance upon his father.
Haha, really? That is awesome. I have to say that story has got to be one the most bizarre things I have ever stumbled across. They were all just one big happy family, weren't they?
Thanks Billy - these are fantastic stories. I finished high school in '69 so all these bands were on our radios 24/7. I have some episodes to go, your research has obviously been extensive, thanks, Alan, South Africa.
Another great episode. That Black Dahlia background is an eye-opener. There are some truly weird people out there. I wonder what they find young things would have thought if the knew they had a 49 year old in their midst. I doubt many of the house owners today know the background that very famous and successful musicians once lived in their houses.
I think that some of them must know some of the history of their homes and the former owners. And I won't say which house, but out of ALL these houses I went to there was only one single owner that was openly rude and I got the feeling that because the house was so easy to find and so close to the main road that maybe they were tired of the constant Hollywood tour buses that would pull up to the front door every single day multiple times per day.
I enjoyed the first two episodes but this morphed from Laurel Canyon Rock-a-thon to Hollywood Babylon.
You mean kind of how it actually did in real life?
That's the whole point of the entire series...
@@memoryfield One Kenneth Anger is enough. ps- really great job on Cass.
@@lhasaroadrat9374 You'll be delighted to know that Lucifer Rising is the very next topic on my list.
JK
on American Horror, murder house, Mena Suvari played Black Dahlia , that was cut in half
Buffalo Springfield wasn't the only L.A. band with multiple Canadian citizens in it. *Steppenwolf* began in late 1967 in L.A. as 3/5 Canadian, and later were 4/5 Canadian for awhile. In the 1960s, if a Canadian artist wanted to make it big, they pretty much had to live full time in the US to do that. It wasn't until the 1970s that Canadian artists could build international careers while remaining based in Canada. Even today, a lot of Canadian artists end up holding dual Canadian/US citizenship.
Really enjoyed this video as I do all your videos I've watched so far on Laurel Canyon. For some reason this Hoosier has a real interest in LC. Mulholland Drive and anything Cielo Drive related. I was surprised to see in a reply of yours here that you don't live in California as you just strike me as a Californian. Anyway, great stuff Billy. You take care.
Correct, I am not from California. Born and raised in the Houston/Galveston, Texas, area and currently residing in Orem, Utah, where I own a music studio. My wife (Juliet) however was actually born in El Centro, California, but only lived there as an infant. We try to get over to the west coast at least twice a year because we love the Pacific Ocean and I have made a vow never to cross over onto the eastern side of the Mississippi for the rest of my life, lol. Juliet hasn't taken that vow and happens to be in New York City as we speak.
@@memoryfield Thank you for the reply. I've got to ask.... did something happen to cause you to vow not to cross the Mississippi to the eastern part of US?
Oh okay.
Although... Steve Hodels story of Dr. Hodel has to be regarded as fiction. What might be interesting is that Dr. Hodels daughter Tamar was friends with Michelle Phillips of the Mamas and the Papas.
@@memoryfield Michelle writes about Tamar in her book. I don't agree that it's a "description of modern-day American society" though. Do you use AI to reply to these comments?
You're correct. The book and the story that we're referring to has absolutely nothing to do with a "description of modern-day American society". The comment was made and meant for someone else who was asking me about the lyrics to the Eagles song, Hotel California. I'm sorry that the non-related comment (inexplicably) ended up in the wrong place and all I can attribute that to is that I was in the midst of answering about 45-50 various and random comments related to about 15 different videos all at the same time. I apologize for that. And no, I do not employ any form of AI to help me answer any comments. As for the story and the book by Steve Hodel, I agree that we can attribute the majority of the contents to be well-meaning fiction at best. I only found it to be interesting and somewhat relevant due to the fact that the real estate in question behind me was once rented by Neil Young and also owned by the former mistress of Dr. Hodel. I am aware of the connection between the daughter of Dr. Hodel (Tamar) and Michelle Phillips, and in fact I even filmed myself speaking about Michelle and Tamar within this segment and then cut the parts out of the final video later. It added yet another twist and turn to an already convoluted and confusing storyline as well as an additional 2.5 minutes to a video which I already felt compelled to cut into two parts due to its immense running time. I appreciate your comments and again, very sorry for the confusion with the wayward reply ending up in the wrong spot. Now I have to track down the one asking me about Hotel California again so as to not appear to be ignoring the other comment. Thank you for watching the video(s) and I truly value your input here.
@@memoryfield I see. That makes sense. Thanks for the sincere apology and not to worry, I was not offended in any way as I live in a country that has not got on the getting offended train just yet. And by the way, I love your videos. Takes me back to a time when walked the streets of the canyons above Hollywood at night. It's a magical place.
Keep it weird .
Doing my best... :)
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They both were. Molesting him, zodiac use to yell at me when he was in roseville
Cant believe KIYO was still around but successful very pretty then at 49!!! Now age obsession is non existent so she was definitely ahead of her time in that genre!!!
Freaky stuff. 🤔
Very much, indeed!
Great content! I appreciate the amount of work you have put into this production. When it comes to facts, what are they really? How can we be sure unless you yourself partook, personally, in events described? We can never be 100% sure. History, unfortunately, is written by conquerors or those living centuries after events.
I think of Beatles recordings, 50-60 years ago. Even the people deeply involved can remember who played which instrument on certain recordings. Drugs and alcohol, maybe...or just time.
Yes, you're right about all that. Trying to find which (or whose) version of these stories to go with was sometimes a real challenge. I even found things in published biographies that were quoting dates of events that would have actually been impossible to have been correct. Claims about who met who and where and what transpired often seemed to have two or three different versions of the truth attached to the event(s) in question. Drugs.
Thanks Billy. Really enjoying the Laurel Canyon series... But what have you re-edited from the first series...? No drastic changes...?
Higher res photos. Less on screen verbiage and longer screen times to read words. Fixed some typos and an incorrect date and incorrect address.
People were complaining that they couldn't read fast enough because the words went by too quickly.
Some episodes now contain new and unused footage that wasn't there before
@@memoryfield Many thanks! I have enjoyed the info and LC stories you have that have come in with from another angle to the LC books that I have read (Michael Walker & Barney Hoskyns) and the recent Alison Ellwood documentary. And particularly in Ep 2 - Love Street - the brief history of California, Los Angeles and then homing in on how LC developed. Well done.
Excellent vlog bud
Rich from the uk
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Fascinating, strange story. I’ve been fascinated with the Black Dahlia murder since I was a kid.
Yes, it's a gripping story. Strange and macabre as well. Never solved and probably never will be. Thanks for watching!
I got to go a couple of years ago with my husband. For me, it was amazing and a check on my bucketlist. The experience wasn't the same for my husband. 😂😂 I didn't have all of the addresses but I did go to joni Mitchell's house and sat outside of the country store. I FULLY plan on going back (without my husband next time😂😂) and redo the bucket list thanks to you!
It's so great to see someone else that is interesting in the history behind the music and where it happened. Laurel canyon, even though was kind of busy, was so magical. You turn and you're suddenly in a vastly different place than the rest of LA. I can see why people flocked there. Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you for the kind comments. It's funny, I didn't really plan to do this much research on Laurel Canyon and I never thought it would turn into 15 long videos either. I didn't realize just how much history was back there and how much there was to actually talk about. So yeah, it's kinda crazy how much there is to know. Glad to know that you visited some of the same spots too. Thanks for watching!
Deep & difficult to follow
Thanks for getting these stories out from my old neighborhood!!! FYI there are even more rabbit holes to go down along the streets you featured in this video…keep up the great work.
Very cool! Yes, we were able to find many of those rabbit holes, but there was only so much time and money to go around so we had to be selective with what we decided to spend our resources on. Thanks for watching!
~ Don't know your name or recall it ic you mentioned it at the beginning but I just wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoyed your sidetrack story in this episode, so thx! It also made me subscribe to your channel. 😎🤙🏻🇨🇦
Billy here! Thank you so much for watching and we're glad to know that you're enjoying the videos. We had a lot of fun making all of them. :)
He kind of went a little off the rails with that theory of yours about Kiyo. There may be something to it, only in the fact that she may have wanted Steve to become a police officer, cause she was hoping that he might investigate his father, and who knows, maybe she even put a bug in his ear while they were still married. But the psychic thing come on man
14:52 This is comedic sarcasm
Kiyo is pronounce Key-yo in Japanese.
"BIG" thank you for the time and effort u put in to all of this fantastic series that (I know you did it out of love) you made for a time capsule. Now that we are starting to loose the creators of this music of the wonderful time in the special part of many lives.
A special thank you kindly , Kevin
Wow, thank you! Yes it was an amazing time and once they're all gone then all we'll have left are the documented memories. The music will live on forever, and that's definitely the most important aspect of all of this. Thanks so much for watching.
I hate to say
I hate to say " dying " I'll change it to diminishing breed of wonderful times & music. I'm only 59 but my brother was 5 years older. Then the guys I grew up with & took me under there wing where 10 older & unfortunately addicted to h. They never tried to ask me to do it but I knew. They took me to see John mayo and the bluesbreakers & stuff like that. They treated me with respect & never took advantage of me. A big God bless for those guys I know 🙏 they are all gone now. Thank you kindly , Kevin
Wow, intriguing story!
Great name, Billy, btw.
Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'!
You gotta have somethin' if you wanna be with me... 🎵🎶
Digging these....love your version of "Heart of Gold" , thanks Billy
Thanks, Steve. I've always loved that song and had a fun time doing my own little version of it.
That guy's book was thoroughly DEBUNKED
No it wasn’t. At all.
Really interesting video! Thanks and keep them coming!
Thanks, will do!
as always interesting and fascinating ….ur the best, bro....
Thank you so much 😀
Fascinating
Great series. You are a good story teller.
Thank you so much!
Elizabeth Short is not far from where I'm sitting as I type these very words. She is interred way in the back of Mountainview Cemetery in Oakland, California. I visit her in the summer when I stay in Moraga to escape the heat of Diablo Valley. I think she was tortured to death. Her killer was never researched and if someone could find his wife and son's death records and his military record then you would find her killer.
Whoa.. n we think todays people are warped. 🤔
I know, right? Crazy, crazy things happening all over that place back in the day.
Such a great video! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
Watching this series of videos again as I just find it fascinating. I started getting interested in Laurel Canyon after watching Echo in the Canyon a few years back.
That was a great documentary! So much history out there in that area that a series like this could just keep going on and on. 50 episodes might end up covering it all, lol.
@@memoryfield i’ve been watching some of your other videos you have saved on your channel. Thanks for producing some great content. So far though nothing compares to the series you did on Laurel Canyon.
Curious, where you found all of this information, you must’ve had to do hours of research.
The information came from probably over a hundred different sources. Books, documentaries, magazine articles, musician interviews, etc. Probably took around 5 months of time to gather everything and even then, we still went back and re-edited several of these videos later whenever we found out something new and significant enough to warrant a total re-edit. Even information we thought was correct, turned out later to be proven untrue or questionable. There are living family members of several of these musicians and others that had worked closely with them who have seen the series and contacted us with new information and/or helped us to correct some things that were not 100% completely true. Some were nice and friendly, and a few were snippy, curt and rude about it. But yeah, it's a ton of facts and information and there's just no way that everything can be proven true without someone, somewhere coming forward and disputing the things that may or may not have happened. It was the 60's, lol.
All I can say is WOW !!! Great work, reporting, story telling and presentation !
Thanks again!
She was a part time piano teacher/actress and he was minimum wage wherever...how could they afford a home in Laurel Canyon, or anywhere else for that matter. Lol
Network 😉
I read Steve Hodel’s book
Fascinating, would like to see an overhead map of the streets and houses.
Google Map
What is that track playing through @18:30 ?
Heart of Gold. Neil Young.
Good morning ☀️
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