For the first time in a while, I don't think I will. The upcoming events of the final Archon Quest involve so many compounding potentialities to the point where speculation is rendered almost futile. For the first time ever, the Traveler will be stepping into uncharted territories with the sole company of Mavuika against a mysterious enemy. So many things could happen that it's hard to really predict the ultimate outcome. For example, Xbalanque could show up, or a Sinner might make a first appearance, and then we have whatever Il Capitano is doing with Yohualtecuhtin and Ronova. This is without taking into account the external contributions of all the side characters. Instead of all that headache, I am just gonna focus on the Lore Theories I have prepared in the background right now (and I have A LOT of them) since some of them are quite interesting topics. If I manage to get through all of them then I might consider a feable 5.3 Archon Quest predictions video.
@@DragonMJE The sinner's themselves although they only came into their powers maybe at the start of the eclipse dynasty (or at the height of the cataclysm) will likely play a huge role in the evolving story. My tinfoil theory is that the sinners "consumed" portions of the "second who came" power after they were destroyed to transform themselves into their current forms.
@@DragonMJE Oh that's nice! I guess Skirk probably won't be in next part of archon quest. But yeaaa there are probably many side stories that are overlooked. It'll be fun to learn about these!
On the topic of the broken moon beyond the sky, there is a short world quest involving a "star fragment," in the westernmost corner of Natlan. The fragment itself looks a lot like the fragments of that moon. And during the quest, it is revealed that there are apparently legends about people reuniting the fragments of a fallen star and being granted powers for doing so. Granted that legend is told to us by a literal child, so a grain of salt applies. Additionally, another little fact of potentially no lore significance, is that this "star fragment" bears a distinct materials pattern called the Widmanstätten pattern, and is only found in meteorites because of the conditions for forming the pattern only exist in space.
From some searching into the original inspiration of Yog-Sothoth: "In one case involving the town of Dunwich, Yog-Sothoth is known to have been summoned for the purposes of impregnating a human female, who then gave birth to two partially-human children." Ayo? I feel like you need to do a video on her sooner rather than later, because now I'm wondering if the Traveler twins might by children of the Abyss instead of gods of light.... Alternatively, this could explain the true origins of the people of Khaen'riah, if not the "gods" of Teyvat along with their association with the Ars Goetia...
Especially since Gold summoned Abyssal creatures like "wishes", and now it's heavily implied that the twins were summoned through this same process as well... 👀
Omg the abyss invading tyvat is just their mom/dad taking them Abyss : AY YO CELESTIA OPEN UP THAT FIRMAMENT AND SPIT MY KIDS OUT NOW Celestia:zzz Abyss :ok that's it *trys to destroy teyvat * Might explain why abyss twin is well with the abyss
Oh this is interesting because the two children were monster-like in appearance, with one moreso than the other. One of the children looked relatively normal, just ugly, and had, i believe, goat hindquarters? The other one was an eldritch abomination that literally could not be perceived by the naked eye, and required a special powder to be cast in order to be seen, but of course, seeing the monstrous twin caused a great deal of damage to the psyche because of it not adhering to the realm of logic. Also interesting is that in the Dunwich Horror specifically, which is the second Lovecraft story Yogsothoth appears in, the mother of the two monster children, Lavinia Whately is described to be albino (so white hair, red eyes, which fits a lot of characters in the Hoyoverse), and her father, Old Whately, who is likely an insane cultist magician and was the one who taught most of what his grandson, Wilbur Whately, child of Lavinia and Yogsothoth, what he knows.
Pierro, Capitano, Peruere... And who else? Zandik is from Sumeru (right above Khaenri'ah), while the rest seem to be from the other Nations. Pulcinella is likely from Snezhnaya given that he is the Mayor of the Capital. Columbina is unknown, but she might be a Seelie.
Pierro, Capitano, Peruere... And who else? Zandik is from Sumeru (right above Khaenri'ah), while the rest seem to be from the other Nations. Pulcinella is likely from Snezhnaya given that he is the Mayor of the Capital. Columbina is unknown, but she might be a Seelie.
I mean this guy does have a point. We have 3 Khanreans. With only 1 confirmed Sneznian: Tartar Sauce (aka Childe), and one other who is likely, for a grand total of 2. So far, the Khanrians win.
I think "the price is death" doesn't mean that the user will die. I think it means giving away death, making the person unable to die. Functionally cursing the person with the curse of immortality. If Capitano has the power of Ronova, it could mean that the user of her power in Khaenri'ah failed to pay the price so the rest of the nation paid it, cursing entire nation.
This is a REALLY COOL interpretation of what Ronova said. If the price of that power is indeed a person’s “death” in that they GIVE UP their death, then one of the 5 sinners, or maybe Irmin himself, also has the powers of Ronova. Mavuika also says that the power gained from Ronova is the same regardless of a person’s ability to witstand it. If it was Irmin who tried to gain this power, then it’s possible that he wasn’t able to withstand it since he wasn’t an archon, and that’s why he became “indisposed” during the cataclysm. He might be physically crippled due to her power.
Yeah but if xbalanque borrowed her powers probably before kheanriah existed and she succumbed to self pity after that then would she borrow her power to another person after that ? And if the curse of immortality was just a consequence because someone borrowed her power and failed to pay for it then why would so many people like our sibling , dain or clothar be so hell bend on calling it a punishment of the gods and i would assume that at least someone especially our sibling should know about it since they are one of the final villains and they should know about it just because of that
There is only one problem in that, the immortality that Capitano has is the product of abyss and not of a curse as such. It is possible that if Mavuika dies but revives like an immortal being, through the 6 heroes who will give her power to save her and we will bela.vlaveto carry it out. Ronova sure told him very vague things about what was going to be done but not the future itself, I didn't even know that the traveler would be key in all these.
Another thing about the quest that was revealed is how the abyss itself copies and reproduces things from teyvat to use as weapons. We have that shapeshifting abyssal "flower" that can become almost any entity. (this was also shown in muatani's quest in 5.1 also) I like that you linked wayobs with the "guardian angels" of the unified civilization, wayobs themselves are like guardian angels of the night kingdom reflecting peoples wishes to protect themselves from the the darkness of the abyss. The relationship to abyssal inquisitors, jacob (formed by eating pieces of elynas), all that borrowed power. The kinship between durin and elynas with almost identical stories . (decent entities trapped within nightmare forms and clouded by delusions by who knows what). Gold herself who seems to been made insane (with lucid moments), makes me think also that alice found some way to stabilize gold's insanity. We still have the unknown formation of ousia and pnuema in fontaine that hasnt been explained fully which is likely related to the whole phlogistan energy -> elemental energy
To be honest, at this point, between your old explanation using Jakob Baker and Neuvillette along with Arlecchino and now the Wayob, I think that the theory of Khaenri'ahns being directly related to Seelies has surpassed the point of speculation. We're now just waiting for Hoyoverse to outright confirm it. The evidence is just too overwhelming in favour of that.
I feel like one of the first links was the Eclipse Dynasties of Khaenri'ah. Both Solar and Lunar. What's also interesting is how the star or Ishtar represents both Istaroth and the Solar Eclipse Dynasty.
I wonder if the Khaenri'ahns are the nephilim, which were confirmed to be canon in 4.7 through an imaginarium theater book, essentially a mix between fallen angels and humans, who drink blood. It would explain the people of the crimson moon dynasty I think it could also be what happened when the seelies and the moon sisters fell, when they witnessed the marriage between a human and a seelie. I wonder if that was more of a metaphor, not exactly marriage, but more so the creation of the nephilim (offspring seelies and humans, in genshin's case) being forbidden. so now the nephilim go underground and create khaenri'ah and the crimson moon dynasty, worshipping the corpse of what would essentially be their god This all also matches well with the timeline, Khaenri'ah was created within that era pretty sure
This is wrong. Outside of a few symbols which can be interpreted this way to support the assumption, there is nothing concrete pointing towards Khaenri'ahs being human-Angel hybrids or something similar, it is simply pure speculation. Notice how he brings up Arlecchino's wings to reinforce the theory, but picks out the parts where she resembles a spider :D This theory also brings more questions than answers, since we can instantly ask, why did the Heavenly Principles not destroy Khaenri'ah if the people there were the result of a forbidden union? This is just the average mediocre Genshin theory if I'm honest, with large jumps and gaps in logic, minimal evidence and the usual reading issues :/
Yeah,,,, i mean they're so sussy especially their power also like mostly surpass a normal human being, there's must be something that make them so strong,
Fun thing about the localization the achievement for meeting Capitano is "The General in his Labyrinth". Also for some reason the Localization team wants to downplay Capitano's feats.
He's better dead tbh, Firefly was a supreme failure of an example of a character build up imo. Doing Capitano like that would be an absolute disservice to his character.
If GGZ is coming up in the argument you know its going to be bs because of the characters that thing has 😂 One single random character there can 1 click every Herrscher or Aeon in the honkaiverse
Don't remind me, I'm still pissed off I missed the occasion to play it before EOS of English version. And even more that Mihoyo refuses to release Houraiji Kyuusou's expy version in any of their games. Kafka's design feels the closest but it's mere small part.
Capitano IS Anfortas Albrecht. I’m 99% certain. The leader of the swan knights. General of Khaenriah. So Capitano’s knights WERE the swan knights. Or at least they were the most elite force under his command. I say this because in Perinheri, a guy named Albrecht is noted as being the leader of half of Khaenriah’s knights, and one of Khaenriah’s strongest warriors. AKA he was a general. And the only Albrecht known to hold a high military position and be super important to Khaenriah is Anfortas. Bc Clothar (the only other Albrecht ever mentioned by name who lived during the cataclysm) was just a civillian at the time. A noble, but still not a member of the mimitary. Plus, Anfortas was the one who took over as Regent and evacuated Khaenriah after Irmin became “indisposed.” Plus Capitano personally claims responsibility for failing to save Khaenriah. He specifically says “I failed to save Khaenriah.” Not “WE failed to save Khaenriah.” So he must feel some responsibity beyond just being one of the protectors of the nation. He wouldn’t do that if he was just some random no-name commander in the army. Clearly he was someone with great authority. And the only foreshadowed and named person in Khaenriah who he could be is Anfortas, as it makes sense that the guy who steps up to fill the role of regent would feel responsible for the fate of the nation. And the fact that he was one of the strongest warriors in Khaenriah also explains why he is about as strong as Mavuika. (Even stronger in his prime). No regular commander would be that strong. We saw Halfan, who was an elite soldier under Dainsleif, and he wasn’t even close to Capitano or Mavuika’s level. I do wonder why Dainsleif wasn’t included in Perinheri as one of the strongest fighters. But my guess is that the author didn’t have access to all the people in Khaenriah, only to the information that was available to the public. Because none of the sinners OR Dain are listed there. And I would expect Surtalogi for example to be one of the strongest people in all of genshin’s lore, not just in Khaenriah. So it’s most likely this person who wrote the book didn’t know what Dain and the sinners were capable of.
honestly one of the best theories i've read about so far, alot of ppl have been coming on saying that capitano himself is perinheri but it never sense to me so Capitano possibly being Anfortas always had a higher probability. It makes me wonder if his ranking in the fatui had something to do with Pierro's influence besides the fact that he's the strongest? Given Pierro was a mage in the court of Khaenri'ah, it's possible he probably knew Capitano/Anfortas before the creation of the Fatui Harbingers if Capitano/Anfortas was as powerful as this theory claims.
@Astro-po3ck That's a really interesting idea. It really makes you wonder just how much the Tsaritsa was influenced by the Khanriahn survivors. We know the event changed her a lot from Venit, but now im wondering if she founded the Fatui, or if Pierro and Capitano were the initiators. I'm already getting hyped for Snezniya just thinking about it.
@@danieldodson6789 exactly, i love natlan, but snezhnaya has my heart, it'd make sense since Kheanri'ah is right after the snezhnaya arc, im guessing we'll see alot more of Pierro, Capitano, Dain, etc when we transition from snezhnaya to Kheanri'ah.
Wrong, we know that Anfortas fled to Sumeru with the Schwanenritter during the Cataclysm. So unless the Captain can multiply himself like a cell I doubt he could have been present in two places simultaneously 😂 Their stories just don't match, its obvious they are two separate characters who lived through different events during the Cataclysm
@@tamas9554lmao it was never stated that Capitano went to Natlan immediately after leaving Khaenri'ah, in fact he says he fled to Natlan AFTER the situation was unsalvageable, plus Khaenri'ah is right below Sumeru, so he'd have to go through Sumeru to go through Natlan regardless
Why is NOBODY talking about Guthred? How did a Khaenri'an ghost appear in Natlan with the way Natlan's leylines are and the Night Kingdom being kinda...xenophobic? To me, it's extremely obvious that Capitano is chock full of ghosts of his fallen comrades. Both Mavuika and Ororon comment on the unusual presences within him, and when he says "you heard something from here, didn't you?" he looks to his wound. It seems like he's leaking souls and one of them slipped out to possess a body in order to serve him again. If your theory about him being a General is true, he could be carrying the entire Khaenri'an army within him. Definitely something that could come into play once he faces his "final foe", whoever they are, considering his diminished personal strength.
When you mention that, I'm reminded of Hohenheim in Fullmetal Alchemist. Which might be also because My Name used footage of FMA:B in the video so it's in the back of my mind. But the interesting thing about Hohenheim, besides him being an immortal too, is that he BECAME a living Philosopher's Stone. That's the reason why he contains hundreds of thousands of human souls, it's because his whole civilization was sacrificed to use as the raw material. I doubt it's an exact situation but it could be that Capitano is a walking ley line/night kingdom for the Khaenri'ahn troops in Natlan (except the two sealed in the Children of Echoes world quest)
Interesting ideas with Capitano and Ronova, but I took the "sent you on your long journey" to refer to the curse of immortality on the people of khaenri'ah.
This could be the case, but one would wonder if Ronova did that on her own. For example, why is she specifically associated with Capitano? Did each Shade Curse a different group of Khaenri'ahns? These types of questions are why I don't think the Shades necessarily did this on their own. The main Curse should be from the King (Crown of Logos). Alternatively, to support what you are saying, it is possible that Ronova Cursed Capitano specifically in a similar way to how Focalors Cursed Furina... But again... Why does Capitano's flesh decay while Furina looks perfectly fine?
@DragonMJE It's mentioned that ronova overstepped her bounds. Do you think this could be in relation to the curse or that it's the lending of the power of death to the pyro archon.
"I almost wonder if he went there to bid them farewell before going to war" Thanks for Capitano's angst this will be eating my brain for years now. Hopefully I have enough willpower to write a fanfic about this. By the way, splendid video bro always nuking lore left and right with deadly accuracy.
it would be amazing if genshin went down the path of introducing multiple lovecraftian outer gods by breaking a rift in the fake sky to reveal the real sky with their enormous tentacles/eyeballs sticking out of it (like antispiral in gurren lagann) my life will be yours hoyoverse
I have a theory, what if the Crimson Moon Is a finality, like kiana in honkai impact? What if in genshin there Is a finality who is embracing Humanity and keeping It obscure of the honkai out of the false sky? 🤔
To be honest this is a really good idea. There are several sources hinting that the Firmament is supposed to protect Teyvat from some outside entities.
'Yog-Sothoth is the embodiment of all of time and space across an essentially infinite number of space-time continuums.' Istaroth VS Gosoythoth Kaiju fight, when?
Lurker at the Threshold Key and the Gate The Beyond One Opener of the Way The All-in-One The One-in-All All-Encompassing Master of Gates between Worlds Just waiting for the eggshell to crack to lick all that delicious -waifu- elemental juice, ain't we?
A quote explaining the neutrality of the entity: *Beyond the Gates of the Silver Key* _In this story, Charles Randolph Carter actually meets him, The Gate, the Key, and the Guardian. The encounter makes it very clear that it is the point of view which defines the nature of the interaction; there is nothing inherently evil or frightening about him. He opens the gates of the Multiverse to anyone who is willing to glimpse it and unlike the "nameless devourers" he is not going to harm you or force you into what you do not want. He gives Carter the option of leaving or going forward; The price is to see the true or at least partial vastness of what is, a flood of knowledge that overwhelms the current "self"._
Interesting choice of word to make it clear that Zhongli is using "Gold" after establishing that's been clarified as Khanriah alchemy/Khemia, to save Xiao from the "leftover souls" that are either the abyss or place where sacrificed souls that may or may not used to sustain Teyvat afloat and running. This is all over the place, but this theory, and one of Ashikai's that associate Teyvat is like a world of dream akin to memoria substance based from Hsr lore... okay, I need to lay down, my mind is not ready to unpack than and our abyss sibling already went through this sh*t against Celestia.
Natlan has been pretty damn awesome so far but one thing that annoyed me is that the traveler had capitano a person of rank from Khaenri'ahn right in front of them and didn't ask him a single damn question about their sibling or what happened there.
If the construction of rubedo consumes souls then maybe that's what visions were originally meant for? Instead of feeding in a multitude of normal souls they're powering a philosophers stone with the souls of vision holders that have been artificially improved. Allogenes can ascend but they're not allowed to so that they get an almost godlike soul as fodder instead of a normal human soul.
I wouldnt neceserally say that capitano being send on his long journey by ronova should mean that he was hired by her to do something , what if it just refers to curse of immortality and final foe capitano was talking about could possibly be shade of death and him wanting to fight her because of the curse she put on his people
i think you can also find a small fragment of the broken moon in natlan as well near the map border by the children of echos, and if you do the small wq related to it, you get a book which tells the story of an angel/ envoy? who gets lost in earth and decides to live amongst humans with her lover
Omg, the current ashikai video, alongside with the past one, this video and like the 3rd after this, mix up so well, i feel my brain is just too overwhelmed, but it makes so much sense when you combine these!!!!!!🤯
14:56 WHAT IF he is The Albricht from perinheri "the commander of half the knights" or Alf "the greatest knight of universatis" both could explain his pure blood and his might and also status
While I have been a strong advocate of the Book Perinheri since its release in version 4.5, the book is a fictional story according to Pierro (very credible source) so I would take its specific details with a grain of salt. What matters are the overall themes and message. The characters mentioned in it could be real, but I would imagine they go by different names. Capitano could have been someone who fulfilled a "role" mentioned in Perinheri tho.
I'M LATE TO COMMENTING BUT HOLY SHIT LOVECRAFT'S MYTHOS IS SO MY WHEELHOUSE, IT HAS BEEN MY HYPERFIXATION FOREVER. SO IF THEY'RE BRINGING YOG-SOTHOTH THAT ISN'T GGZ RELATED THAT HAS MASSIVE IMPLICATIONS THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COPE WITH. I need to calm down and process this... oml
I really like the idea of Khaenri'ahns being related to the seelies. It gives a new meaning to all the imagery and philosophy that they share with Deshret's civilization, or to be more accurate Deshret's ambitions themselves (which I believe unironically all stem from his unhealthy obsession with that one Seelie).
Very nice break down. I believe i found the thread that connects paimon to the moon, and which one she is. Working on it now, actually. But yes, thx for sharing your thoughts and research👌
I think Lord of night has another (kinda) hidden lore revelation, and that is the Shade of Void might be male. Since in original Chinese text when she's talking about the four shades, the pronoun "they" she used is 3rd person plural masculine, instead of 3rd person plural feminine, which indicates there's at least one male among the Shades. We know both Istaroth and Renova are female, and I think it's mentioned somewhere that Shade of Life is also female, so the Shade of Void must be male. This also hints at the Sustainer not being one of the four shades, she's probably THE heavenly principle. Or all of these could just be a typo...but I don't think it's likely, because the word "they" got repeated several times in Lord of night's conversation, and it stays consistent. If you use Lumine as your traveler, the "they" used in that part of the story when referring to you and paimon is in its correct 3rd person plural feminine form.
In the english translations every female god is also just called a "god" instead of a "goddess". The only exception to this is Nabu Malikata, who was an Angel. So this might not have any relevant meaning
@@tamas9554 That is completely different. God is a title, "they" is a pronoun. Some titles can be gender neutral (such as "Lord" of night), but will you refer to Lord of night as "he"? There is a relatively obscure gender neutral 3rd person plural form of "they" reserved for sacred figures in Chinese but they didn't use it. You can't use a translation to tell me the original text doesn't mean anything. This is probably something that's lost in translation
@@opswhyyou7216 The same logic still applies to the original langauge too though, I just don't believe its enough to draw that conclusion. We also don't know if the Shade of Void is the Sustainer as of yet, who is female
@@tamas9554 no, it is enough. I know English doesn't have different 3rd person plural pronouns, but maybe using French, which is related to English, as an example it will be easier to understand? This is as if Lord of night said "ils sont des ombres" instead of "elles sont des ombres". A French speaking person will immediately know what is different here and what that difference symbolizes. This isn't just a case of "oh some words can be used in a gender neutral way" because these words absolutely can't be gender neutral. There's a separate gender neutral form of them but hoyo didn't use it. The only way for this to not mean anything is that it's a typo. If it is intentional then it absolutely means at least one Shade is male.
great video! now this is not an important question but just fun musings what do u think are the chances that Ronova is Seele expy? let me provide my thought process: i think all the shades are expies of Herrschers and The Primordial One is Kevin Kaslana expy(K.K) and if Sustainer is really the Shade of Space/Void, then not only is she expy of Herrscher of the void but Lord of the night calls Ronova "Ruler of death" - Ruler is "Herrscher" in German so she is basically calling Ronova Herrscher of Death. not only would this imply that Sustainer(Asmoday) is Herrscher of Space/Void basically but that Ronova is "Herrscher of death' btw obviously i don't mean Herrscher as in literally Honkai Herrscher but that title equivalent in Genshin. so if Ronova can be considered as Ruler/Herrscher of death and she also has powers of death and resurrection(most likely rebirth too) wouldn't that parallel Seele then, who is Herrscher of Death equivalent as Herrscher of Rebirth? even if Seele isn't a standard Herrscher per say originating from Imaginary Tree but instead Sea of Quanta. it's also interesting to note that Balemoon Bloodfire has connection to death and rebirth through Hearth ritual and it's very likely that those powers are related to Ronova in some way, either directly or indirectly. considering popular interpretation for "two worlds" in "Cinder of two worlds flames" title Peruere has and burning in the "hearthfire of two worlds" are referencing life and "afterlife" again this is just fun musings and not really super important to the Genshin story
I will be honest with you, I have always imagined her as a Seele Expy ever since the Tsurumi days back in Inazuma. Unlike you tho, I never had any logical reason, I just did lol. That being said, Paimon might be a weird combination of Kiana and Seele.
@@DragonMJE that's interesting, man the day Paimon's true role and identity will be revealed will be legendary. whenever that may be. i do hope that we will see Ronova's appearance in final Archon quest(same for Xbalanque, my cope is that they didn't reveal his design just yet cuz he will revive and become playable) but i am prepared to be disappointed. hoping for the best but being prepared for the worst as they say
@@motemo8413 Regarding what you said about the Hearth Fire being connected to Ronova, that was implied back in 2021 on Tsurumi Island. Kanna Kapatcir and the lady who gave her her original name originate from Ainu Mythology. There it is stated that Kanna Kamuy (God of Thunder & Lighting) descended from the heavens with Apemerukoyan-mat Unamerukoyan-mat (Fuchi). In Ainu traditions, Fuchi was the Goddess of the Hearth and with it she held dominion over Death (the Ainu saw the Hearth as the abode of the dead). Fuchi is supposed to be Ronova 🙂
Honestly, just googling her image, Seele seems to share STRONG resemblance to what we've seen of Columbina to my eyes (I could be VERY wrong, it was just the immediate association my brain made) and uh... just quick-googling some of her lore, it's said "She is the best friend of Bronya Zaychik" Aaaand I'm pretty sure Cryo Archon will be Bronya's expy.
@@DragonMJE Thanks for sharing! i think you mentioned Kapatcir's connection to Shade of death back then but i didn't remember that Fuchi was goddess of the Hearth cuz i have golffish memory also it's great that both mysterious Tsurumi island and Enkanomiya lore are coming back in Natlan, in the main story no less, this makes me think that despite Hoyo forgetting to give Inazuma any meaningful content for 2 years now, they still haven't forggoten lore from back then kek
touching on that last revelation, its reminding me of other times red and gold have shown up in the plot... obviously the traveler, when they arrived in teyvat, had gold energy and wings, theres the alchemist rhinedottir who is nicknamed gold (whose creatures like elynas and durin notably seem to have hearts and blood of crimson red that twist and corrupt things around them, which if red is associated with rubedo and the absolute celestial power, i wonder if that might be why they do that? maybe they are rubedo, but improperly made? maybe rhinedottir's goal is to artificially recreate rubedo (and thus secure power equal to or above a descender), and has failed again and again, so she turned instead to chalk and gold?) i think there might be some kind of connection between gold being power, but false power in a way - something strong but still below the peak of rubedo i wonder if that might be associated with paimon in a way? her clothing contains accents of rose gold - something that could technically be said to be between gold and red
Ah! I have like surface level knowledge of genshin, but with every major update. I become more and more interested in the lore of this world. I need to do some research.
About the trees, Genshin is connected to the Honkai universe (that has the GGZ, HI3 and HSR games revolving around it), and it’s a sort of multiverse where all their major games (aside for ZZZ and ToT take place, those two are standalones for what we know as of now) and the Irminsul or the trees in the Void Realm might just be branches of the Imaginary Tree, which is essentially a multiverse Layline, sort of, an enormous tree that it’s located in the Sea of Quanta (which I suspect might be part of the Abyss, as both have energy which corrupts and are places where normal physics laws have no meaning, but this theory is just that, a theory. Anyway by “rewriting” the imaginary tree, one can actually create alternative timelines, rewrite history in a way, it has been done in HI3 already. It might be worth to be looked into!
Idk if it was this video, but you mention in one how Mika’s account is wrong because of blue eyes. I’ve been seeing around on social media (and idk how right it is) that the blue stuff on Dain is the rot that has consumed all of Capitano, so could that be what he thought were blue eyes? Great videos btw, I watch every Genshin release!
7:36 really, my guy? Just look at Zhongli's coat from the back LOL WHY NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS. The 'inscriptions down the middle' are EVEN MORE similar in his coat than in the desert mechanisms. But ofc, this doesn't fit the rest of the theory. Still, I think it's sus.
I had this exact thought bc I remember in the previous AQ patch where we first go through the ancient ruins of the dragons, the symbol on the big door that lights up closely resembled the geo symbol. It’s like it was the mirror of the geo symbol. And then now with the source mechanism and the knot design on Zhongli’s coat…v sus 👀 he gotta be part of that ancient civilization somehow…
You know, I wonder if the fragments in the sky weren't of a destroyed moon, but of the primordial one's "eggshell," after all I think I remember it being said somewhere that the firmament was made from Phanes's egg.
The source mechanism was explicitly stated to have been created by the angels not the dragons. Which would explainn why it looks like Deshrets device since he got knowledge frooom the Seelies.
i mean seelies (angels) were natives of underground Night Kingdom, and Khaenriah was an underground kingdom too, so all of their similarities can be explained with convergent evolution
Also I think the the girl who Controlls the white abyss might be lumine in this context since the first time we meet lumine she already can use both abyssal energy and omni element..
12:30 Are you saying that the origins of the Aeon of Preservation is linked to Genshin and Teyvat? This particular tidbit of information makes even more sense if you link it with the nature of Teyvat’s firmament, that is the Angel’s Egg.
"And by comedic i mean in the sense of it being OBJECTIVELY dogshit writing" ...LOL, that one makes sense of why she will be reworked...like, GI team won't allow a bad writing to persist once they identify it (Except when it's too "Big" like the entire Inazuma AQ) Anyways, let's just see if this...what's the word again..."Cnnuy" ? Ends up being brought back
Really none of the lore content creators did not notice that we physically have part of this moon beyond firmament in Natlan? (In the crater top, right from the Ancestral Temple)
It would be impossible since the traveler can’t be corrupted or whatever but how sick would it be if we are the first weekly boss in Natlan archon quest and we have to play as Mauvika and we do the trope where she Dies like all Himeko in every game and it plays her sad theme again. But Capitano comes out of nowhere and uses whatever deal he made with Ronova and saves them both some how and he is sacrificed or something.
Oh... I want to talk about alchemy so bad, so very bad after everything. Especially about gold/sulfur/phlogiston and rainbows and colors, And, I might say that 'red' (or even 'gold') isn't that special (a bold claim from me and could be very wrong) but that's because whatever Paimon and Sluasi said back there and Melusine saw colors differently than human beings (and colorblindness and stuff), I think what's important is actually about the transformation/transcension itself. And it's about skill too. Because I Think, Deshret and Irmin (or Phanes, or dragons, or Men), are not as smart as the women handling the alchemy 😶, probably, that much I would say for now.
didn't the lord of the night say something about citlali being young when we can ask her questions? like she said "that young girl from the masters of the night wind" and then paimon said "young girl?!" and then she says "what? did I say something wrong?"
I had to explain this a few times at this point, but Yohualtecuhtin is speaking relatively. Citlali is approximately 230 - 260 years old, which is extremely old for any human. However, from the perspective of an Angel who has been alive for thousands upon thousands of years, 200 is nothing. Take Kusanali for example, at 500 years, she is insanely old for humans. But to someone like Zhongli, she is a baby.
@@killb5030 We know about her age from external sources + she was old enough to be consulted by the Masters of the Night Wind's Cheif about whether or not to send Ororon to the Night Realm when he was found as a child.
@@killb5030when she drunk Citlali did mention about “doesn’t matter someone live 200 year old or 1000 year old” That is a hint about her age And from 200 to 1000 still is young to someone like the night lord
In Gurren Lagann, Guame once decribed Cytomander as "200 years young"...this Guame is possibly 1000 years old He made the age gap as specific as he needs it to be...
if I had a dollar for every time a video game made yog-sothoth a little girl, I would have 2 (GGZ & FGO), which isn't much, but it's still funny it happened twice! Any other sponsors?
The question I have that no one else seems to be asking is... What did Capitano mean by "already??!?!?!?!?" "You met Dainslief already?" ALREADY???!?!?!?! What are they planning????
About the broken moon and its fragments. It could be the Dire Balemoon. The one powering up Arlecchino. We have long been told that the 3 moon sisters killed each other, and that the corpse of one of them still hangs in the sky. This hasn’t been visible until now. But if that is indeed the corpse of one of the 3 moon sisters, then could it also be the presence that the crimson moon dynasty worshipped? We know that the consciousness of a god can linger even after they die. The remains of Rukkhadevatta’s consciousness remained intact in Irminsul for 500 years. And Egeria’s consciousness is still very literally alive inside the lotus at the core of the Harvisptokhum. I think it’s possible that the consciousness of that moon sister might still linger in the corpse even after death. And if it still remembers how it died, supposedly murdered by her sisters, then that also explains the look of absolute horror in the Balemoon entity’s eye. It would forever be a murder victim recalling its horrific death, endlessly feeling only fear, sadness, and anger. Also, the moon sisters are even older than Zhongli. And the fact that at least one of them is a celestial body that exists outside the planet of Teyvat implies that it existed before humanity did, and before the primordial one arrived in Teyvat. It might even predate Nibelung’s rule as king of the dragons. Since it’s an entirely different celestial body. That kind of primordial deity would probably be way stronger than the earthly gods that fought in the archon war. So it also makes sense that the remnants of such a deity would still be able to empower humans and other beings in Teyvat with powers that rival those of lesser gods. It might have even done so wildly, lashing out and empowering hilichurls and other monsters during the cataclysm with incredible power. Also, if it IS a residual consciousness just acting on the emotions left inside it, then it also explains why it was there during the fall of Khaenriah. If they activated the power of the Shades, or the abyssal power unleashed was what caused the moon sisters to kill each other, then the wild emotions inside the balemoon entiry would probably lash out at what it perceives as someone responsible for its death. I for one don’t think it’s a giant philosopher’s stone. I don’t think it was “created” by the primordial one or even by Nibelung. I think it’s an entity that has existed about as long as Teyvat the planet has. And, I think it’s possible that both the moon sisters and Nibelung function as “consciousnesses” for the celestial bodies they represent. Nibelung the dragon king is essentially the “brain” of Teyvat. The control center for all of the light realm’s energy. After all, he’s the “heavenly father” and creator of all things, according to Neuvillette. Same with the moon sisters, but for the energy of their respective moons. And instead of the continent of Teyvat, they created the Lunar Palace on the moon. It seems very similar to “Archetype Earth” from the Fate and Type Moon series. Who is essentially the earth’s “brain” and can controll the flow of all the leylines. I think that’s Nibelung for Teyvat, and the moon sisters for the moon(s).
Archerype earth is not the earth’s brain but is earth’s hand and feet, she is the body guard to physically solve problem of the earth She can do everything earth can do if earth give her the permission to access to using earth power and the connection between earth and akasha
This is a kind of well known and spread theory. You may found videos about that. Her crown is clock with arms. I would be surprise if she is moon sister in her reduce form and with amnesia. Every part of her is on stargliter menu. Maybe even wishing and stopping time. At least we known about her orgins and inspiration. Just write in on google and go on Salomon grimoars. It fits on her perfectly. My theory is that she is exactly the welkin moon sister on banner. Archons are inspirated by grimoar demon commanders. Paimon too.
Paimon is definitely connected to Celestia, but its unlikely she is an actual Moon Sister. Nothing about her resembles the moon, you see. Actually, if we look at all the symbols through Genshin, including the game's logo itself, it is far more likely that Paimon is the Primordial One/First Descender/Heavenly Principles as a "baby". Or else the crown and Celestia's motifs on the Divine Nails and Archon Statues wouldn't make a lot of sense
@@tamas9554 thanks for the reply but I really don't think she is one. I just had the thought you know? Idk But as time goes on she becomes more sus and she could be anything Next thing they're gonna tell us is that every disender Hase there own paimon like companion IDK or that she was born from the will greater then the gods I'm just throwing ideas lol
Will you make a predictions video in anticipation of 5.3 and what we'll find in the Abyss, and exactly who or what we'll be fighting with Mauvika?
For the first time in a while, I don't think I will. The upcoming events of the final Archon Quest involve so many compounding potentialities to the point where speculation is rendered almost futile. For the first time ever, the Traveler will be stepping into uncharted territories with the sole company of Mavuika against a mysterious enemy. So many things could happen that it's hard to really predict the ultimate outcome. For example, Xbalanque could show up, or a Sinner might make a first appearance, and then we have whatever Il Capitano is doing with Yohualtecuhtin and Ronova. This is without taking into account the external contributions of all the side characters.
Instead of all that headache, I am just gonna focus on the Lore Theories I have prepared in the background right now (and I have A LOT of them) since some of them are quite interesting topics. If I manage to get through all of them then I might consider a feable 5.3 Archon Quest predictions video.
@@DragonMJE The sinner's themselves although they only came into their powers maybe at the start of the eclipse dynasty (or at the height of the cataclysm) will likely play a huge role in the evolving story. My tinfoil theory is that the sinners "consumed" portions of the "second who came" power after they were destroyed to transform themselves into their current forms.
@@DragonMJE Oh that's nice! I guess Skirk probably won't be in next part of archon quest. But yeaaa there are probably many side stories that are overlooked. It'll be fun to learn about these!
At this point, Nyx should appear just like how Skirk did.
@@nabieladrian do you think nyx exists In genshin?
On the topic of the broken moon beyond the sky, there is a short world quest involving a "star fragment," in the westernmost corner of Natlan. The fragment itself looks a lot like the fragments of that moon. And during the quest, it is revealed that there are apparently legends about people reuniting the fragments of a fallen star and being granted powers for doing so. Granted that legend is told to us by a literal child, so a grain of salt applies.
Additionally, another little fact of potentially no lore significance, is that this "star fragment" bears a distinct materials pattern called the Widmanstätten pattern, and is only found in meteorites because of the conditions for forming the pattern only exist in space.
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so prob a connection to the meteorites scara found and learned abt the false sky from
From some searching into the original inspiration of Yog-Sothoth: "In one case involving the town of Dunwich, Yog-Sothoth is known to have been summoned for the purposes of impregnating a human female, who then gave birth to two partially-human children."
Ayo? I feel like you need to do a video on her sooner rather than later, because now I'm wondering if the Traveler twins might by children of the Abyss instead of gods of light....
Alternatively, this could explain the true origins of the people of Khaen'riah, if not the "gods" of Teyvat along with their association with the Ars Goetia...
Especially since Gold summoned Abyssal creatures like "wishes", and now it's heavily implied that the twins were summoned through this same process as well... 👀
Omg the abyss invading tyvat is just their mom/dad taking them
Abyss : AY YO CELESTIA OPEN UP THAT FIRMAMENT AND SPIT MY KIDS OUT NOW
Celestia:zzz
Abyss :ok that's it *trys to destroy teyvat *
Might explain why abyss twin is well with the abyss
Holy fuc-
Oh this is interesting because the two children were monster-like in appearance, with one moreso than the other. One of the children looked relatively normal, just ugly, and had, i believe, goat hindquarters? The other one was an eldritch abomination that literally could not be perceived by the naked eye, and required a special powder to be cast in order to be seen, but of course, seeing the monstrous twin caused a great deal of damage to the psyche because of it not adhering to the realm of logic. Also interesting is that in the Dunwich Horror specifically, which is the second Lovecraft story Yogsothoth appears in, the mother of the two monster children, Lavinia Whately is described to be albino (so white hair, red eyes, which fits a lot of characters in the Hoyoverse), and her father, Old Whately, who is likely an insane cultist magician and was the one who taught most of what his grandson, Wilbur Whately, child of Lavinia and Yogsothoth, what he knows.
@@pseudotangerine9687 - hrm...
That just makes me wonder more about the origin of dragons and why they seem to keep turning human...
The Harbengers might have more Khaenreans than Sneznians at this point
Pierro, Capitano, Peruere... And who else?
Zandik is from Sumeru (right above Khaenri'ah), while the rest seem to be from the other Nations. Pulcinella is likely from Snezhnaya given that he is the Mayor of the Capital. Columbina is unknown, but she might be a Seelie.
Pierro, Capitano, Peruere... And who else?
Zandik is from Sumeru (right above Khaenri'ah), while the rest seem to be from the other Nations. Pulcinella is likely from Snezhnaya given that he is the Mayor of the Capital. Columbina is unknown, but she might be a Seelie.
Bro used his two accounts to comment the same thing 😅.
I mean this guy does have a point. We have 3 Khanreans. With only 1 confirmed Sneznian: Tartar Sauce (aka Childe), and one other who is likely, for a grand total of 2.
So far, the Khanrians win.
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7:49 Deshret Mention...wait wrong channel
Dasrat is way too much involved in lore of genshin
Bruh
LMAOOO
Ashikai mention
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Deshret is a such a gigachad in all aspects of
I think "the price is death" doesn't mean that the user will die. I think it means giving away death, making the person unable to die. Functionally cursing the person with the curse of immortality. If Capitano has the power of Ronova, it could mean that the user of her power in Khaenri'ah failed to pay the price so the rest of the nation paid it, cursing entire nation.
That's an interesting interpretation... I never thought about it like that.
Very good idea and could be the case too.
This is a REALLY COOL interpretation of what Ronova said.
If the price of that power is indeed a person’s “death” in that they GIVE UP their death, then one of the 5 sinners, or maybe Irmin himself, also has the powers of Ronova.
Mavuika also says that the power gained from Ronova is the same regardless of a person’s ability to witstand it. If it was Irmin who tried to gain this power, then it’s possible that he wasn’t able to withstand it since he wasn’t an archon, and that’s why he became “indisposed” during the cataclysm. He might be physically crippled due to her power.
Yeah but if xbalanque borrowed her powers probably before kheanriah existed and she succumbed to self pity after that then would she borrow her power to another person after that ? And if the curse of immortality was just a consequence because someone borrowed her power and failed to pay for it then why would so many people like our sibling , dain or clothar be so hell bend on calling it a punishment of the gods and i would assume that at least someone especially our sibling should know about it since they are one of the final villains and they should know about it just because of that
There is only one problem in that, the immortality that Capitano has is the product of abyss and not of a curse as such.
It is possible that if Mavuika dies but revives like an immortal being, through the 6 heroes who will give her power to save her and we will bela.vlaveto carry it out.
Ronova sure told him very vague things about what was going to be done but not the future itself, I didn't even know that the traveler would be key in all these.
Another thing about the quest that was revealed is how the abyss itself copies and reproduces things from teyvat to use as weapons. We have that shapeshifting abyssal "flower" that can become almost any entity. (this was also shown in muatani's quest in 5.1 also)
I like that you linked wayobs with the "guardian angels" of the unified civilization, wayobs themselves are like guardian angels of the night kingdom reflecting peoples wishes to protect themselves from the the darkness of the abyss. The relationship to abyssal inquisitors, jacob (formed by eating pieces of elynas), all that borrowed power. The kinship between durin and elynas with almost identical stories . (decent entities trapped within nightmare forms and clouded by delusions by who knows what).
Gold herself who seems to been made insane (with lucid moments), makes me think also that alice found some way to stabilize gold's insanity.
We still have the unknown formation of ousia and pnuema in fontaine that hasnt been explained fully which is likely related to the whole phlogistan energy -> elemental energy
i swear Kaeya becomes more and more sus every patch, like that boy knows something. anyway time to reread princess Mina and get a headache
I really hope we get 5* version of Kaeya like Dan Heng IL and Tingyun Fugue from HSR.
Even Bennett become sus when natlan came.... So kaeya is definitely...❤
To be honest, at this point, between your old explanation using Jakob Baker and Neuvillette along with Arlecchino and now the Wayob, I think that the theory of Khaenri'ahns being directly related to Seelies has surpassed the point of speculation. We're now just waiting for Hoyoverse to outright confirm it. The evidence is just too overwhelming in favour of that.
And Childes foul legacy looking like a seelie
I feel like one of the first links was the Eclipse Dynasties of Khaenri'ah. Both Solar and Lunar. What's also interesting is how the star or Ishtar represents both Istaroth and the Solar Eclipse Dynasty.
I wonder if the Khaenri'ahns are the nephilim, which were confirmed to be canon in 4.7 through an imaginarium theater book, essentially a mix between fallen angels and humans, who drink blood. It would explain the people of the crimson moon dynasty
I think it could also be what happened when the seelies and the moon sisters fell, when they witnessed the marriage between a human and a seelie. I wonder if that was more of a metaphor, not exactly marriage, but more so the creation of the nephilim (offspring seelies and humans, in genshin's case) being forbidden.
so now the nephilim go underground and create khaenri'ah and the crimson moon dynasty, worshipping the corpse of what would essentially be their god
This all also matches well with the timeline, Khaenri'ah was created within that era pretty sure
This is wrong. Outside of a few symbols which can be interpreted this way to support the assumption, there is nothing concrete pointing towards Khaenri'ahs being human-Angel hybrids or something similar, it is simply pure speculation. Notice how he brings up Arlecchino's wings to reinforce the theory, but picks out the parts where she resembles a spider :D
This theory also brings more questions than answers, since we can instantly ask, why did the Heavenly Principles not destroy Khaenri'ah if the people there were the result of a forbidden union? This is just the average mediocre Genshin theory if I'm honest, with large jumps and gaps in logic, minimal evidence and the usual reading issues :/
Yeah,,,, i mean they're so sussy especially their power also like mostly surpass a normal human being, there's must be something that make them so strong,
Fun thing about the localization the achievement for meeting Capitano is "The General in his Labyrinth". Also for some reason the Localization team wants to downplay Capitano's feats.
Can you give me an example?
"Knowing Hoyoverse there are only 2 futures for Capitano: Either he will die or he will be Firefly. And I hate both of them" - Zy0x 🤣🤣🤣
dying is a better route.. I rather feed his dead body to street dogs than becoming a magical shoujo transformation robot
We already know Il Capitano is a man tho... Gutherd in Chinese refers to him as a masculine War General.
"Knowing Hoyoverse" "Zy0x"
You can only have one bro, that guy doesn't even play the games
He's better dead tbh, Firefly was a supreme failure of an example of a character build up imo. Doing Capitano like that would be an absolute disservice to his character.
Do you really trust Mr Aboba Loreskipper?
If GGZ is coming up in the argument you know its going to be bs because of the characters that thing has 😂
One single random character there can 1 click every Herrscher or Aeon in the honkaiverse
Don't remind me, I'm still pissed off I missed the occasion to play it before EOS of English version. And even more that Mihoyo refuses to release Houraiji Kyuusou's expy version in any of their games. Kafka's design feels the closest but it's mere small part.
Not all the characters, although a large number of them can
Capitano IS Anfortas Albrecht. I’m 99% certain.
The leader of the swan knights. General of Khaenriah. So Capitano’s knights WERE the swan knights. Or at least they were the most elite force under his command. I say this because in Perinheri, a guy named Albrecht is noted as being the leader of half of Khaenriah’s knights, and one of Khaenriah’s strongest warriors. AKA he was a general. And the only Albrecht known to hold a high military position and be super important to Khaenriah is Anfortas. Bc Clothar (the only other Albrecht ever mentioned by name who lived during the cataclysm) was just a civillian at the time. A noble, but still not a member of the mimitary. Plus, Anfortas was the one who took over as Regent and evacuated Khaenriah after Irmin became “indisposed.”
Plus Capitano personally claims responsibility for failing to save Khaenriah. He specifically says “I failed to save Khaenriah.” Not “WE failed to save Khaenriah.” So he must feel some responsibity beyond just being one of the protectors of the nation. He wouldn’t do that if he was just some random no-name commander in the army. Clearly he was someone with great authority. And the only foreshadowed and named person in Khaenriah who he could be is Anfortas, as it makes sense that the guy who steps up to fill the role of regent would feel responsible for the fate of the nation.
And the fact that he was one of the strongest warriors in Khaenriah also explains why he is about as strong as Mavuika. (Even stronger in his prime). No regular commander would be that strong. We saw Halfan, who was an elite soldier under Dainsleif, and he wasn’t even close to Capitano or Mavuika’s level.
I do wonder why Dainsleif wasn’t included in Perinheri as one of the strongest fighters. But my guess is that the author didn’t have access to all the people in Khaenriah, only to the information that was available to the public. Because none of the sinners OR Dain are listed there. And I would expect Surtalogi for example to be one of the strongest people in all of genshin’s lore, not just in Khaenriah. So it’s most likely this person who wrote the book didn’t know what Dain and the sinners were capable of.
honestly one of the best theories i've read about so far, alot of ppl have been coming on saying that capitano himself is perinheri but it never sense to me so Capitano possibly being Anfortas always had a higher probability. It makes me wonder if his ranking in the fatui had something to do with Pierro's influence besides the fact that he's the strongest? Given Pierro was a mage in the court of Khaenri'ah, it's possible he probably knew Capitano/Anfortas before the creation of the Fatui Harbingers if Capitano/Anfortas was as powerful as this theory claims.
@Astro-po3ck
That's a really interesting idea. It really makes you wonder just how much the Tsaritsa was influenced by the Khanriahn survivors. We know the event changed her a lot from Venit, but now im wondering if she founded the Fatui, or if Pierro and Capitano were the initiators. I'm already getting hyped for Snezniya just thinking about it.
@@danieldodson6789 exactly, i love natlan, but snezhnaya has my heart, it'd make sense since Kheanri'ah is right after the snezhnaya arc, im guessing we'll see alot more of Pierro, Capitano, Dain, etc when we transition from snezhnaya to Kheanri'ah.
Wrong, we know that Anfortas fled to Sumeru with the Schwanenritter during the Cataclysm. So unless the Captain can multiply himself like a cell I doubt he could have been present in two places simultaneously 😂
Their stories just don't match, its obvious they are two separate characters who lived through different events during the Cataclysm
@@tamas9554lmao it was never stated that Capitano went to Natlan immediately after leaving Khaenri'ah, in fact he says he fled to Natlan AFTER the situation was unsalvageable, plus Khaenri'ah is right below Sumeru, so he'd have to go through Sumeru to go through Natlan regardless
When I read "Abyss Waifu" I knew EXACTLY what you were going to talk about...
Though that looks more like a cnnuy-
1:39 yess, mavuika as lore unit of measure let's go
8:02 The GOAT is already Cooking 🍲🍜
Why is NOBODY talking about Guthred? How did a Khaenri'an ghost appear in Natlan with the way Natlan's leylines are and the Night Kingdom being kinda...xenophobic? To me, it's extremely obvious that Capitano is chock full of ghosts of his fallen comrades. Both Mavuika and Ororon comment on the unusual presences within him, and when he says "you heard something from here, didn't you?" he looks to his wound. It seems like he's leaking souls and one of them slipped out to possess a body in order to serve him again. If your theory about him being a General is true, he could be carrying the entire Khaenri'an army within him. Definitely something that could come into play once he faces his "final foe", whoever they are, considering his diminished personal strength.
When you mention that, I'm reminded of Hohenheim in Fullmetal Alchemist. Which might be also because My Name used footage of FMA:B in the video so it's in the back of my mind. But the interesting thing about Hohenheim, besides him being an immortal too, is that he BECAME a living Philosopher's Stone. That's the reason why he contains hundreds of thousands of human souls, it's because his whole civilization was sacrificed to use as the raw material. I doubt it's an exact situation but it could be that Capitano is a walking ley line/night kingdom for the Khaenri'ahn troops in Natlan (except the two sealed in the Children of Echoes world quest)
go watch dawit's videos about capitano, he definitely talks about the souls. though i don't remember which one it was
@@akinohikari1000 He does talk about it in the latest video but that one came out after I made my comment.
@@supermonstars I think lil bro saw your comment and speedran that video 😂
Didn’t they mention in the Archon Quest that after khaenria fell, capitano came to natlan to help fend off the abyss with what was left of his troops?
Interesting ideas with Capitano and Ronova, but I took the "sent you on your long journey" to refer to the curse of immortality on the people of khaenri'ah.
This could be the case, but one would wonder if Ronova did that on her own. For example, why is she specifically associated with Capitano?
Did each Shade Curse a different group of Khaenri'ahns?
These types of questions are why I don't think the Shades necessarily did this on their own. The main Curse should be from the King (Crown of Logos).
Alternatively, to support what you are saying, it is possible that Ronova Cursed Capitano specifically in a similar way to how Focalors Cursed Furina... But again... Why does Capitano's flesh decay while Furina looks perfectly fine?
@DragonMJE It's mentioned that ronova overstepped her bounds. Do you think this could be in relation to the curse or that it's the lending of the power of death to the pyro archon.
@@Travek2112 According to Yohualtecuhtin, the Heavenly Principles was displeased with how much Ronova helped Xbalanque.
"I almost wonder if he went there to bid them farewell before going to war" Thanks for Capitano's angst this will be eating my brain for years now. Hopefully I have enough willpower to write a fanfic about this. By the way, splendid video bro always nuking lore left and right with deadly accuracy.
it would be amazing if genshin went down the path of introducing multiple lovecraftian outer gods by breaking a rift in the fake sky to reveal the real sky with their enormous tentacles/eyeballs sticking out of it (like antispiral in gurren lagann) my life will be yours hoyoverse
It'd rhyme quite well with the Angel's Egg moon, too
It really wouldnt be too out of the convo. We already have *Dust of Azoth* after all
I have a theory, what if the Crimson Moon Is a finality, like kiana in honkai impact? What if in genshin there Is a finality who is embracing Humanity and keeping It obscure of the honkai out of the false sky? 🤔
To be honest this is a really good idea. There are several sources hinting that the Firmament is supposed to protect Teyvat from some outside entities.
'Yog-Sothoth is the embodiment of all of time and space across an essentially infinite number of space-time continuums.'
Istaroth VS Gosoythoth Kaiju fight, when?
Lurker at the Threshold
Key and the Gate
The Beyond One
Opener of the Way
The All-in-One
The One-in-All
All-Encompassing
Master of Gates between Worlds
Just waiting for the eggshell to crack to lick all that delicious -waifu- elemental juice, ain't we?
A quote explaining the neutrality of the entity:
*Beyond the Gates of the Silver Key*
_In this story, Charles Randolph Carter actually meets him, The Gate, the Key, and the Guardian. The encounter makes it very clear that it is the point of view which defines the nature of the interaction; there is nothing inherently evil or frightening about him. He opens the gates of the Multiverse to anyone who is willing to glimpse it and unlike the "nameless devourers" he is not going to harm you or force you into what you do not want. He gives Carter the option of leaving or going forward; The price is to see the true or at least partial vastness of what is, a flood of knowledge that overwhelms the current "self"._
Saw Yog Sonoth in the thumbnail and immediatley clicked (GGZ lore when fr)
Crazy we get a GGZ reference in a my name for now video before a honkai impact 3rd one
Interesting choice of word to make it clear that Zhongli is using "Gold" after establishing that's been clarified as Khanriah alchemy/Khemia, to save Xiao from the "leftover souls" that are either the abyss or place where sacrificed souls that may or may not used to sustain Teyvat afloat and running. This is all over the place, but this theory, and one of Ashikai's that associate Teyvat is like a world of dream akin to memoria substance based from Hsr lore... okay, I need to lay down, my mind is not ready to unpack than and our abyss sibling already went through this sh*t against Celestia.
7:43 Blue Box mentioned WOOOOHOOO
Funny show ngl
22:21 NOOOOOoooo I wanted to listen ggz lore
Natlan has been pretty damn awesome so far but one thing that annoyed me is that the traveler had capitano a person of rank from Khaenri'ahn right in front of them and didn't ask him a single damn question about their sibling or what happened there.
If the construction of rubedo consumes souls then maybe that's what visions were originally meant for? Instead of feeding in a multitude of normal souls they're powering a philosophers stone with the souls of vision holders that have been artificially improved. Allogenes can ascend but they're not allowed to so that they get an almost godlike soul as fodder instead of a normal human soul.
I wouldnt neceserally say that capitano being send on his long journey by ronova should mean that he was hired by her to do something , what if it just refers to curse of immortality and final foe capitano was talking about could possibly be shade of death and him wanting to fight her because of the curse she put on his people
I definitely think the "final foe" is literally death itself. Or rather, finally overcoming the curse of life.
i think you can also find a small fragment of the broken moon in natlan as well near the map border by the children of echos, and if you do the small wq related to it, you get a book which tells the story of an angel/ envoy? who gets lost in earth and decides to live amongst humans with her lover
Omg, the current ashikai video, alongside with the past one, this video and like the 3rd after this, mix up so well, i feel my brain is just too overwhelmed, but it makes so much sense when you combine these!!!!!!🤯
Always love it when the craziest crackpot theory turns out to be the closest if not accurate prediction 😂
14:56 WHAT IF he is The Albricht from perinheri "the commander of half the knights" or Alf "the greatest knight of universatis" both could explain his pure blood and his might and also status
While I have been a strong advocate of the Book Perinheri since its release in version 4.5, the book is a fictional story according to Pierro (very credible source) so I would take its specific details with a grain of salt. What matters are the overall themes and message. The characters mentioned in it could be real, but I would imagine they go by different names.
Capitano could have been someone who fulfilled a "role" mentioned in Perinheri tho.
@@DragonMJE Where did Pierro say that?
@@AndrewsMobs Arlecchino's character story. I forgot if it was 3, 4, or 5. Check them and you will see her conversation with him.
Does really genshin include all these strange names!! First time I hear them, LOL 😂
"Big Dong Zhong" made me laugh🤣😅
I'M LATE TO COMMENTING BUT HOLY SHIT LOVECRAFT'S MYTHOS IS SO MY WHEELHOUSE, IT HAS BEEN MY HYPERFIXATION FOREVER. SO IF THEY'RE BRINGING YOG-SOTHOTH THAT ISN'T GGZ RELATED THAT HAS MASSIVE IMPLICATIONS THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COPE WITH.
I need to calm down and process this... oml
honestly dainsleif's arm reminds me of vishaps so much
A story teller needs a main villain - the words OUTER GOD coming to save them
I was gritting my teeth waiting for you to drop this video after 5.1 AQ, it did NOT disappoint!! 🔥My Goat as per Usual
"Cursed treelike creature"......so like you know....mara struck????
I really like the idea of Khaenri'ahns being related to the seelies. It gives a new meaning to all the imagery and philosophy that they share with Deshret's civilization, or to be more accurate Deshret's ambitions themselves (which I believe unironically all stem from his unhealthy obsession with that one Seelie).
If we get an Abyss waifu i might just gave to invest all 550 wishes to try getting her to C6
Very nice break down. I believe i found the thread that connects paimon to the moon, and which one she is. Working on it now, actually.
But yes, thx for sharing your thoughts and research👌
I think Lord of night has another (kinda) hidden lore revelation, and that is the Shade of Void might be male. Since in original Chinese text when she's talking about the four shades, the pronoun "they" she used is 3rd person plural masculine, instead of 3rd person plural feminine, which indicates there's at least one male among the Shades. We know both Istaroth and Renova are female, and I think it's mentioned somewhere that Shade of Life is also female, so the Shade of Void must be male. This also hints at the Sustainer not being one of the four shades, she's probably THE heavenly principle.
Or all of these could just be a typo...but I don't think it's likely, because the word "they" got repeated several times in Lord of night's conversation, and it stays consistent. If you use Lumine as your traveler, the "they" used in that part of the story when referring to you and paimon is in its correct 3rd person plural feminine form.
SUSTAINER herself said that she is a SUSTAINER of THE heavenly principal and we know now that heavenly principal is just one parson.
In the english translations every female god is also just called a "god" instead of a "goddess". The only exception to this is Nabu Malikata, who was an Angel. So this might not have any relevant meaning
@@tamas9554 That is completely different. God is a title, "they" is a pronoun. Some titles can be gender neutral (such as "Lord" of night), but will you refer to Lord of night as "he"? There is a relatively obscure gender neutral 3rd person plural form of "they" reserved for sacred figures in Chinese but they didn't use it. You can't use a translation to tell me the original text doesn't mean anything. This is probably something that's lost in translation
@@opswhyyou7216 The same logic still applies to the original langauge too though, I just don't believe its enough to draw that conclusion. We also don't know if the Shade of Void is the Sustainer as of yet, who is female
@@tamas9554 no, it is enough. I know English doesn't have different 3rd person plural pronouns, but maybe using French, which is related to English, as an example it will be easier to understand? This is as if Lord of night said "ils sont des ombres" instead of "elles sont des ombres". A French speaking person will immediately know what is different here and what that difference symbolizes. This isn't just a case of "oh some words can be used in a gender neutral way" because these words absolutely can't be gender neutral. There's a separate gender neutral form of them but hoyo didn't use it. The only way for this to not mean anything is that it's a typo. If it is intentional then it absolutely means at least one Shade is male.
great video!
now this is not an important question but just fun musings
what do u think are the chances that Ronova is Seele expy?
let me provide my thought process:
i think all the shades are expies of Herrschers and The Primordial One is Kevin Kaslana expy(K.K) and if Sustainer is really the Shade of Space/Void, then not only is she expy of Herrscher of the void but Lord of the night calls Ronova "Ruler of death" - Ruler is "Herrscher" in German so she is basically calling Ronova Herrscher of Death. not only would this imply that Sustainer(Asmoday) is Herrscher of Space/Void basically but that Ronova is "Herrscher of death'
btw obviously i don't mean Herrscher as in literally Honkai Herrscher but that title equivalent in Genshin.
so if Ronova can be considered as Ruler/Herrscher of death and she also has powers of death and resurrection(most likely rebirth too) wouldn't that parallel Seele then, who is Herrscher of Death equivalent as Herrscher of Rebirth? even if Seele isn't a standard Herrscher per say originating from Imaginary Tree but instead Sea of Quanta.
it's also interesting to note that Balemoon Bloodfire has connection to death and rebirth through Hearth ritual and it's very likely that those powers are related to Ronova in some way, either directly or indirectly. considering popular interpretation for "two worlds" in "Cinder of two worlds flames" title Peruere has and burning in the "hearthfire of two worlds" are referencing life and "afterlife"
again this is just fun musings and not really super important to the Genshin story
I will be honest with you, I have always imagined her as a Seele Expy ever since the Tsurumi days back in Inazuma. Unlike you tho, I never had any logical reason, I just did lol.
That being said, Paimon might be a weird combination of Kiana and Seele.
@@DragonMJE that's interesting, man the day Paimon's true role and identity will be revealed will be legendary. whenever that may be.
i do hope that we will see Ronova's appearance in final Archon quest(same for Xbalanque, my cope is that they didn't reveal his design just yet cuz he will revive and become playable) but i am prepared to be disappointed. hoping for the best but being prepared for the worst as they say
@@motemo8413 Regarding what you said about the Hearth Fire being connected to Ronova, that was implied back in 2021 on Tsurumi Island. Kanna Kapatcir and the lady who gave her her original name originate from Ainu Mythology. There it is stated that Kanna Kamuy (God of Thunder & Lighting) descended from the heavens with Apemerukoyan-mat Unamerukoyan-mat (Fuchi). In Ainu traditions, Fuchi was the Goddess of the Hearth and with it she held dominion over Death (the Ainu saw the Hearth as the abode of the dead).
Fuchi is supposed to be Ronova 🙂
Honestly, just googling her image, Seele seems to share STRONG resemblance to what we've seen of Columbina to my eyes (I could be VERY wrong, it was just the immediate association my brain made) and uh... just quick-googling some of her lore, it's said "She is the best friend of Bronya Zaychik"
Aaaand I'm pretty sure Cryo Archon will be Bronya's expy.
@@DragonMJE Thanks for sharing!
i think you mentioned Kapatcir's connection to Shade of death back then but i didn't remember that Fuchi was goddess of the Hearth cuz i have golffish memory
also it's great that both mysterious Tsurumi island and Enkanomiya lore are coming back in Natlan, in the main story no less, this makes me think that despite Hoyo forgetting to give Inazuma any meaningful content for 2 years now, they still haven't forggoten lore from back then kek
I think capitano might be the leader of the swan knights.
I was so excited when they confirm the seele and the name of the shade of death
So we are at war with an Eldritch Loli Goddess🗿
the broken moon beyond the fake sky reminded me of the HSR x fate collab picture
My Chef for Now bc you be cooking!!
Dam brother....hear after the leak
I can't wait for what ur gonna cook now
touching on that last revelation, its reminding me of other times red and gold have shown up in the plot... obviously the traveler, when they arrived in teyvat, had gold energy and wings, theres the alchemist rhinedottir who is nicknamed gold (whose creatures like elynas and durin notably seem to have hearts and blood of crimson red that twist and corrupt things around them, which if red is associated with rubedo and the absolute celestial power, i wonder if that might be why they do that? maybe they are rubedo, but improperly made? maybe rhinedottir's goal is to artificially recreate rubedo (and thus secure power equal to or above a descender), and has failed again and again, so she turned instead to chalk and gold?)
i think there might be some kind of connection between gold being power, but false power in a way - something strong but still below the peak of rubedo
i wonder if that might be associated with paimon in a way? her clothing contains accents of rose gold - something that could technically be said to be between gold and red
Ah! I have like surface level knowledge of genshin, but with every major update. I become more and more interested in the lore of this world. I need to do some research.
About the trees, Genshin is connected to the Honkai universe (that has the GGZ, HI3 and HSR games revolving around it), and it’s a sort of multiverse where all their major games (aside for ZZZ and ToT take place, those two are standalones for what we know as of now) and the Irminsul or the trees in the Void Realm might just be branches of the Imaginary Tree, which is essentially a multiverse Layline, sort of, an enormous tree that it’s located in the Sea of Quanta (which I suspect might be part of the Abyss, as both have energy which corrupts and are places where normal physics laws have no meaning, but this theory is just that, a theory.
Anyway by “rewriting” the imaginary tree, one can actually create alternative timelines, rewrite history in a way, it has been done in HI3 already.
It might be worth to be looked into!
So pure blooded khaenri'ahns are the products of an angel and human love huh. Their own version of adam and eve i guess.
27:11 TOGETHAAAAAA
Join the Serpent King as FAMILYYYYYYY
Phlogiston and Light is a cool mechanic
23:18 love that movie, sad what disney become. Cant wait for more lore
Idk if it was this video, but you mention in one how Mika’s account is wrong because of blue eyes. I’ve been seeing around on social media (and idk how right it is) that the blue stuff on Dain is the rot that has consumed all of Capitano, so could that be what he thought were blue eyes? Great videos btw, I watch every Genshin release!
Sucrose is a freaking dragon don't believe Me? U ll regret...
7:36 really, my guy? Just look at Zhongli's coat from the back LOL WHY NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS. The 'inscriptions down the middle' are EVEN MORE similar in his coat than in the desert mechanisms. But ofc, this doesn't fit the rest of the theory. Still, I think it's sus.
That was my first thought while doing this quest too!!!!! I was like, "zhongli keeps getting more and more suspicious" when I saw the source mechanism
I had this exact thought bc I remember in the previous AQ patch where we first go through the ancient ruins of the dragons, the symbol on the big door that lights up closely resembled the geo symbol. It’s like it was the mirror of the geo symbol. And then now with the source mechanism and the knot design on Zhongli’s coat…v sus 👀 he gotta be part of that ancient civilization somehow…
You know, I wonder if the fragments in the sky weren't of a destroyed moon, but of the primordial one's "eggshell," after all I think I remember it being said somewhere that the firmament was made from Phanes's egg.
The source mechanism was explicitly stated to have been created by the angels not the dragons. Which would explainn why it looks like Deshrets device since he got knowledge frooom the Seelies.
for some reason I read the caption on the thumbnail as " Biggest waifus " like a top 10 list 😂
i mean seelies (angels) were natives of underground Night Kingdom, and Khaenriah was an underground kingdom too, so all of their similarities can be explained with convergent evolution
Theres a world quest where you can see a chunk of the moon up close
Also I think the the girl who Controlls the white abyss might be lumine in this context since the first time we meet lumine she already can use both abyssal energy and omni element..
12:30 Are you saying that the origins of the Aeon of Preservation is linked to Genshin and Teyvat? This particular tidbit of information makes even more sense if you link it with the nature of Teyvat’s firmament, that is the Angel’s Egg.
What is yog sothoth white abyss ?
i can smell someone cooking.
"And by comedic i mean in the sense of it being OBJECTIVELY dogshit writing"
...LOL, that one makes sense of why she will be reworked...like, GI team won't allow a bad writing to persist once they identify it (Except when it's too "Big" like the entire Inazuma AQ)
Anyways, let's just see if this...what's the word again..."Cnnuy" ? Ends up being brought back
I want to watch this so bad but haven’t finished the archon quest yet 😭😭
Finally did it and I’m here
Really none of the lore content creators did not notice that we physically have part of this moon beyond firmament in Natlan? (In the crater top, right from the Ancestral Temple)
Erm amazing theory!! but may I add that it’s Firmament with an M and not ‘Fernament’ ☝️🤓
It would be impossible since the traveler can’t be corrupted or whatever but how sick would it be if we are the first weekly boss in Natlan archon quest and we have to play as Mauvika and we do the trope where she Dies like all Himeko in every game and it plays her sad theme again. But Capitano comes out of nowhere and uses whatever deal he made with Ronova and saves them both some how and he is sacrificed or something.
The vid ended. Still waiting to see who tge abyss waifu is. Is it the one from GGZ?
Please make a video about gosoythoth and white abyss regardless if she is in genshin or not
The rating you used for the Angels lore is from the Extra High movie reviews channel right? RIGHT?
Watching blue box is so based
Oh... I want to talk about alchemy so bad, so very bad after everything. Especially about gold/sulfur/phlogiston and rainbows and colors,
And, I might say that 'red' (or even 'gold') isn't that special (a bold claim from me and could be very wrong) but that's because whatever Paimon and Sluasi said back there and Melusine saw colors differently than human beings (and colorblindness and stuff), I think what's important is actually about the transformation/transcension itself.
And it's about skill too. Because I Think, Deshret and Irmin (or Phanes, or dragons, or Men), are not as smart as the women handling the alchemy 😶, probably,
that much I would say for now.
gendered because syzygy of course 👍
Stellarons~
didn't the lord of the night say something about citlali being young when we can ask her questions? like she said "that young girl from the masters of the night wind" and then paimon said "young girl?!" and then she says "what? did I say something wrong?"
I had to explain this a few times at this point, but Yohualtecuhtin is speaking relatively. Citlali is approximately 230 - 260 years old, which is extremely old for any human. However, from the perspective of an Angel who has been alive for thousands upon thousands of years, 200 is nothing.
Take Kusanali for example, at 500 years, she is insanely old for humans. But to someone like Zhongli, she is a baby.
@@DragonMJE i dunno that honestly just seems like a guess. How do we know citlali hasnt been lying about her age?
@@killb5030 We know about her age from external sources + she was old enough to be consulted by the Masters of the Night Wind's Cheif about whether or not to send Ororon to the Night Realm when he was found as a child.
@@killb5030when she drunk
Citlali did mention about “doesn’t matter someone live 200 year old or 1000 year old”
That is a hint about her age
And from 200 to 1000 still is young to someone like the night lord
In Gurren Lagann, Guame once decribed Cytomander as "200 years young"...this Guame is possibly 1000 years old
He made the age gap as specific as he needs it to be...
if I had a dollar for every time a video game made yog-sothoth a little girl, I would have 2 (GGZ & FGO), which isn't much, but it's still funny it happened twice! Any other sponsors?
The question I have that no one else seems to be asking is... What did Capitano mean by "already??!?!?!?!?"
"You met Dainslief already?"
ALREADY???!?!?!?! What are they planning????
Finally🔥🔥🔥
I just wanted some confirmation that xbalanque Will come to the game… so sadge
About the broken moon and its fragments. It could be the Dire Balemoon. The one powering up Arlecchino.
We have long been told that the 3 moon sisters killed each other, and that the corpse of one of them still hangs in the sky. This hasn’t been visible until now.
But if that is indeed the corpse of one of the 3 moon sisters, then could it also be the presence that the crimson moon dynasty worshipped? We know that the consciousness of a god can linger even after they die. The remains of Rukkhadevatta’s consciousness remained intact in Irminsul for 500 years. And Egeria’s consciousness is still very literally alive inside the lotus at the core of the Harvisptokhum.
I think it’s possible that the consciousness of that moon sister might still linger in the corpse even after death. And if it still remembers how it died, supposedly murdered by her sisters, then that also explains the look of absolute horror in the Balemoon entity’s eye. It would forever be a murder victim recalling its horrific death, endlessly feeling only fear, sadness, and anger.
Also, the moon sisters are even older than Zhongli. And the fact that at least one of them is a celestial body that exists outside the planet of Teyvat implies that it existed before humanity did, and before the primordial one arrived in Teyvat. It might even predate Nibelung’s rule as king of the dragons. Since it’s an entirely different celestial body. That kind of primordial deity would probably be way stronger than the earthly gods that fought in the archon war. So it also makes sense that the remnants of such a deity would still be able to empower humans and other beings in Teyvat with powers that rival those of lesser gods. It might have even done so wildly, lashing out and empowering hilichurls and other monsters during the cataclysm with incredible power.
Also, if it IS a residual consciousness just acting on the emotions left inside it, then it also explains why it was there during the fall of Khaenriah. If they activated the power of the Shades, or the abyssal power unleashed was what caused the moon sisters to kill each other, then the wild emotions inside the balemoon entiry would probably lash out at what it perceives as someone responsible for its death.
I for one don’t think it’s a giant philosopher’s stone. I don’t think it was “created” by the primordial one or even by Nibelung. I think it’s an entity that has existed about as long as Teyvat the planet has. And, I think it’s possible that both the moon sisters and Nibelung function as “consciousnesses” for the celestial bodies they represent. Nibelung the dragon king is essentially the “brain” of Teyvat. The control center for all of the light realm’s energy. After all, he’s the “heavenly father” and creator of all things, according to Neuvillette. Same with the moon sisters, but for the energy of their respective moons. And instead of the continent of Teyvat, they created the Lunar Palace on the moon. It seems very similar to “Archetype Earth” from the Fate and Type Moon series. Who is essentially the earth’s “brain” and can controll the flow of all the leylines. I think that’s Nibelung for Teyvat, and the moon sisters for the moon(s).
Archerype earth is not the earth’s brain but is earth’s hand and feet, she is the body guard to physically solve problem of the earth
She can do everything earth can do if earth give her the permission to access to using earth power and the connection between earth and akasha
Didnt we see a pice of that in a ditch a kid was looking into
yep the moon resembles in HSR. wait did all moon looks identical?
Imagine paimon being a moon sister
This is a kind of well known and spread theory. You may found videos about that. Her crown is clock with arms. I would be surprise if she is moon sister in her reduce form and with amnesia. Every part of her is on stargliter menu. Maybe even wishing and stopping time. At least we known about her orgins and inspiration. Just write in on google and go on Salomon grimoars. It fits on her perfectly. My theory is that she is exactly the welkin moon sister on banner. Archons are inspirated by grimoar demon commanders. Paimon too.
Paimon is definitely connected to Celestia, but its unlikely she is an actual Moon Sister. Nothing about her resembles the moon, you see. Actually, if we look at all the symbols through Genshin, including the game's logo itself, it is far more likely that Paimon is the Primordial One/First Descender/Heavenly Principles as a "baby".
Or else the crown and Celestia's motifs on the Divine Nails and Archon Statues wouldn't make a lot of sense
@@tamas9554 thanks for the reply but I really don't think she is one.
I just had the thought you know?
Idk
But as time goes on she becomes more sus and she could be anything
Next thing they're gonna tell us is that every disender Hase there own paimon like companion IDK or that she was born from the will greater then the gods I'm just throwing ideas lol
The lore of the AQs so far has been interesting but the writing of those quests have been really subpar.
For the record, that Khaenri'ahn soldier's name is pronounced "Goo Tread".
Yippee!
is there a website or a channel that covers ggz lore cuz i missed it all by starting to play in 2022
RAAAHHH WHENS THE NEW VID COMING OUT RAAHHH
Working on 3 vids at the same time. But expect the next one in 3 - 4 days (probably 3).
He came....AND SO AM I🗿
Keys
My Name for Now, did any reveals in this patch actually come as a surprise to you?
I wasn't expecting Yog-Sothoth
And we dont even have an Act 5 yet
Is there any posibility that ''false sky'' protects Teyvat from Nihility(crimson moon)