Wifi GPS renewed, the 2023 update
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- UPDATE 30.07.2023: IMAGES FOR ESP REPLACED WITH NEW VERSIONS AS THE ORIGINAL IMAGES HAD ISSUES WITH THE ESP PRO (the ones with antenna connector)
In 2022, the Carp Pilot Pro got the ability to connect directly to a wifi GPS. Even though the app is designed to be used with the ArduRover autopilot, any bait boat owner can now build his own wifi GPS for a fairly low cost and start to utilize the app. You miss out on the great abilities of an autopilot for sure. But let's be honest, although it is not rocket science to build in an autopilot in a bait boat it is for sure also not very easy. But a wifi GPS is something most of you can do. Or at least chances are you have a friend who is able to. Because this is far easier to implement than a full blown autopilot. Opening a world of possibilities.
This video is the 2023 update. And with great help from Max Nägele to be precise. Max is an awesome guy that has helped me develop the Carp Pilot Pro into becoming the greatest of bait boat control apps. Max is also the one behind many technical ideas and solutions used by some bait boat companies. And he has brought up some nice ESP based solutions as well. Like these new images introduced in this instructional video. Made available to you all for no cost. So cudos to Max, I am entierly grateful!
Please note one comment about the Skydroid T10 and its missing V-TAIL mixer, ref the latest section of the video:
This ONLY applies for use with a boat that has no autopilot inside. If you have an autopilot (ardurover, usually installed on a pixhawk 2.4.8) then the remote radio shall NEVER do any mixing as the autopilot takes care of it. But, as this is a video about wifi GPS that you typically install instead of an autopilot I think you need to be aware of this shortcoming.
Note on the GPS:
Many of you will likely use another model of the GPS than the M10s from Mateksys used in this video. Even though this model worked right out of the box, the GPS Module you select might not. Please check that the GPS has a UART interface. Most have, but check before buying. And please also check the UART baud rate. 9600 has been the norm for GPS, but that does not mean it is the default for the module you have. If it is something else then you can change it using uBlox U-Center Software (at least if the GPS has flash memory and thus the ability to remember changes over a power cycle). You will need an adapter to connect that module to the PC as well. This is covered in numerous videos elsewhere.
In short: If the GPS has UART and comes with 9600 as default UART baud rate it is plug an play. If not, make sure to reconfigure it first.
Note on Bluetooth GPS:
If you use a Skydroid receiver as in the video, the data comes thru without any issues. But some of you may want to give a cheap HC05 or HC06 a try. In that case, please note that the image uses baud rate 57600 out from the ESP8266 TX port. So please reconfigure your HC05/HC06 to use 57600 first. You may also omit the ESP entirely and plug the GPS TX directly into the bluetooth RX. In this case, check the GPS baud rate and set it accordingly in the bluetooth module.
Highlights in the video:
00:00 Introduction
01:27 What has changed since 2022?
02:30 What to do if you use an old ESP?
03:38 How to install Python and ESPTOOL should you need to erase an old ESP
05:00 Erasing an old ESP so it is ready to be re-used
06:31 Flashing the firmware for wifi GPS on a clean ESP
08:56 Solution 1: Wifi GPS for use with a wifi echosounder
14:56 Solution 2: Wifi GPS standalone, if you have no wifi echosounder
20:46 Solution 3: Use a Skydroid T10 to transmit the GPS info
25:08 Add a V-TAIL mixer to your Skydroid T10 for single stick driving
Resources used in this video made available for you:
(1) The complete PDF guide with all info needed:
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(2) The NodeMCU for win32:
1drv.ms/u/s!AmtsJVaE5T-skM87Z...
(3) The NodeMCU for win64:
1drv.ms/u/s!AmtsJVaE5T-skM88k...
(4) Image for WIFI GPS to use with Wifi Echosounder (do NOT USE with DEEPER):
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(5) Image for WIFI GPS to use with Wifi Echosounder (USE THIS with DEEPER):
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Note: Always use this with Deeper, and select port 2500 in Carp Pilot Pro
(6) The new image for WiFi GPS as standalone or to use with the Skydroid T10:
1drv.ms/u/s!AmtsJVaE5T-skNYik...
UPDATE 30.07.2023: Link to web shop selling known working ESP Pro:
This ESP Pro has been successfully tested. The pro version of the ESP is the good choice if you want a Wifi GPS but do not have a Wifi echo sounder in your boat. This model has a uFL antenna socket built in so you can attach it to a Wifi booster and/or an external antenna:
www.makershop.de/plattformen/...
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Easy to follow the esp flash, I had a couple here and it took no time to wipe them clean. Will set them up for my raymarine soon. Thanks for showing how easy this is to do.
Mama Mia 😁super vidéo 👌👌👌
Great tutorial!!!! A thank you for your affort and time☆
thanks for sharing this kind of information.
Video super👍👍👍👍💪💪💪💪
😊danke für das Video
Lg
Fabian
Flashing did not work for me at the beginning, switched from Win11 to old Win7 laptop, tried various USB cables, uninstalled and again installed CH340 drivers - Out of a sudden it worked. Just keep trying ;-)
so if i understand correct , the esp sends the wifi singnal plus the data of the sonar .
so lest say ( deeper ) wifi connect with the esp wich connect to your phone or tablet
but what is the range of the wifi signal
The Deeper wifi range is limited. If you want to tag along the wifi GPS data or the autopilot data to a Deeper this is possible. But you will also need to consider how to extend the range of a deeper as well.
Using Deeper range extender currently has an issue for auropilot use. It may or may not work, I have no Deeper range extender (as I do not use a deeper myself I cannot afford buying one just to do a test).
@@TheCarpPilot oke Thanx for the info , than I will just try a wifi booster , ps I really like your videos 😄
If your like me and follow the steps & connect the external antenna, for it not to work.. found out why!!
Sorted now but it’s fiddly..
There is a 0 ohm resistor (small black rectangular device marked with a 0). It's situated between the chip antenna and the FL connector. In its default position it links the output antenna path from the IC to the built in chip antenna. This needs to be moved to the external antenna position.
Are you talking about the ESP pro model?
Yes m8.. should of said.. sorry.. many thanks for your tutorial. 👍
Please could you show how to connect a deeper into the boat and does it need to have an external antenna fitted to it?
I understand the hole making and gluing part but I'm unsure regarding the electrics
I already have shore based extender.
thanks
With no modificated antenna the distance it can travel with a boat is very limited. Deeper made a range extender promising 200m. This is for sure sufficient for most angling situations if the promise is valid. But right now there is an error blocking access to the Deeper's NMEA0183 interface. Deeper accepted the error early May, promised to follow up when I asked for a status in July. I have no Deeper here to show how to modify it. But other videos should be available here on TH-cam. In short you must remove the top cover (3 bolts), and the antenna is then in the short spiral in the middle. Soldering this out, and then solder the core of an antenna wire to it instead and twisting excess protective mesh into a wire and soldering that to Deeper board ground is the job in short. As the board is small and a bit fragile it pays to watch a video on it, and if soldering skills are so-so then also practice on (in particular) how to desolder that antenna. With a wire in place the antenna can then be mounted on top of the upper hull. For added distance a wifi booster can be put in-between.
@@TheCarpPilot Thanks, I found a TH-cam video which is about putting on an external antenna but it's more than a little crude and I don't believe it shows enough detail.
Can you recommend a reasonably priced l
alternative as I really don't want to buy a raymarine and start by cutting it up
A proper Deeper Extender I guess will set you back 400 Euro. Not sure that is reasonable. Obviously, if you are capable to do this yourself then there is a lot of money to save.
Just watched two different videos on Deeper (both German, found them using search phrase "Deeper Umbau"). One that zoomed properly in, but kept the spiral antenna in place which I think in general is a mistake. And one that did not zoom in at all, but basically did it like I would (solder out the spiral, solder in the antenna core and then solder the mesh to ground - both videos used the outside of the USB socket for this which is totally fine.
@@TheCarpPilot thanks for your reply, I too found the same TH-cam videos and I now think that I have enough information to be able to undertake the mod with a reasonable amount of confidence.
Thanks for your help I'm sure that I will be asking for more help as I move along.
but here's a question, would not removing the original antenna cause a problem or is it only about making a tidy installation
Good afternoon, in the previous videos on building a boat, there is a completely different connection of the compass and wifi and t10. There are no mixers for controlling one stick, I got confused. The question is whether it is possible to transfer sonar data via wifi connected to T10. Part 3 is not about the firmware of the wifi module. Help understand me mini pixhawk4 and T12 skaydrod.
Skydroid and mixer: When you use an autopilot there is not need for mixer for the sticks on the remote. The autopilot takes care of that. But if you use a wifi GPS then the remote needs to do it. Or you add a mixer in the boat to fix it
To pass sonar data thru the T10 I have not heard anyone being successful with. I am also not suggesting you can. Serial data stream for an autopilot or GPS data as in the latest video about wifi GPS it can handle
The wifi telemetry model I showed in part 3 comes with firmware installed and a cost if less than €10. If that's not good enough then how to make your own is documented here:
ardupilot.org/copter/docs/common-esp8266-telemetry.html
Not much money to save doing it yourself in this case. The ready made also comes with cable. So I bough it as stated in the video, I did not make it and thus there was no need to describe the how-to either. But read those instructions and you can easily make your own.
And finally, if you want to use a pixhawk4 instead of the well documented pixhawk 2.4.8 then please read up. This is well documented. There are 20-30 different autopilot Hardware options and I cannot answer to most of them.
The BIG difference between the Pixhawk4 mini and the 2.4.8 is:
The connectors for cables are all JST-GH, while pixhawk has DF13 (Molex Picoblade is also compatible). And for regular GPS (not DRONECAN but regular serial) then the Pixhawk4 mini does NOT have separated connectors for GPS and I2C but instead a wide GPS connector (10 pin if I remember correctly) that is compatible with their line of GPS (M8n and M9n) models.
I used another GPS in the end, a M10 L4 3100 DRONECAN GPS. And that particular GPS is not a serial device and must be connected differently.
But that should not confuse you. Just take note that there are many options. And anyone who gets uncertain should stay on the main path. And then, plain and simple: Get a pixhawk 2.4.8 like almost everyone else. And follow video 2/3. And you will be successful. I will also builda new boat in June. And I will use a 2.4.8. The only reason I selected the Pixhawk4 mini was that I already had it and that it was small. And the boat was also small. So I used it. It is expensive, and nice to finally use it for something...
If you want to build with Pixhawk4 mini then please read up and understand. This guide has all needed info to get the wires correctly:
ardupilot.org/copter/docs/common-holybro-ph4mini.html
Good afternoon, first of all I want to thank you for all the answers to the questions. You have done a very good job. I am building my first boat, so I have many questions, because I want to build it without mistakes. The last clarification on the Matec M10-L4-3100 compass from can pixhowk pins, the compass connects to 5V,G,C-L,C-H? Is it up to 5V,G,Tx,Rx?
Is it possible to connect this to a bear creeks gps upgrade at all to get the auto pilot working ive damaged my controller?
@@neilgrant706 using wifi GPS offers a way to drive a boat using the radio transmitter but still utilize Carp Pilot Pro abilities for waypoints, depth map creation and so on. The Carp Pilot pro receives data for boat position and direction of travel. But it is no autopilot solution.
To use the full autopilot capabilities you need a flight controller (most users select a pixhawk 2.4.8, like the Radiolink Pixhawk, but more than 50 models that work are available). And then you must install the Rover version of the ardupilot firmware on it. As explained in video #2 in the video series for how to build a bait boat. Other autopilot software than ardupilot is not supported.
@@TheCarpPilot thx buddy so can the pixhawk replace the motherboard to do all jobs like power motors open doors lights etc ?
@@neilgrant706 Of course it can. As demoed in the build bait boat video series. I have 5 bait boats using ardupilot. Full autopilot. Controlling hook releases, bait tray trap doors, light with/without dimmer, turning cameras on/off and so on.
In the video series, episode 1 explains some basic power principles. In episode 2 the pixhawk is set up. In episode 3 some additional (optional) equipment is talked about. Like I personally prefer to have an easy to access USB socket to be able to upgrade the autopilot in the future. Then some episodes focusing on boat building, config of ESCs and so on. Finalizing the setup in the later episodes and my first test drive for the boat in France (first time ever using it - even got some nice carp).
@@TheCarpPilot thank you again very helpful
the continuing saga, I got myself a Skydroid 10 and things were going pretty good until I tried to get the device helper app to run. not a prayer.
do you know a way to set up the Skydroid without it? I've tried 5 different android devices but it fails every time
well, after almost 6 hours of banging my head on the tablet I got it to run. now there's tenacity
See you got around the problem. I do it like this: I install the device helper app using the QR code in the supplied manual. And whenever the app asks me to upgrade I reject it and keep using their old version.
did something similar, just took a while to get there.
I'm going to do the compass calibration next. Can I set the arming parram back to arm afterwards?On the heads-up display it says. disarmed, failsafe.not ready to arm. GPS no fix. on the pixhawk I have two solid green lights, one regular flashing blue and the large light I yellow doing a double flash. is that correct?
I followed your instructions for setting up the pixhawk just hoping that I did it correctly
@stevecleaver9169 parameters can be changed and saved at any time. If you currently disabled the arming require and need to calibrate the compass then simply enable it. And after compass calibration is completed you disabled it again. No problem.
Not ready to arm is caused by the no fix and a parameter setting i did not mention in the video (about which things to check before arming). And this is quite usual working indoors (poor GPS reception). You may see see some "bad ahrs" messages working indoors as well during setup. If you indoors conditions is not totally bad then give it some time and this will go away. Just make sure that pixhawk is disarmed (arming_require = 1 will do the trick) and go ahead with compass calibration 🙂
spent a few hours on the boat today, I did the compass calibration and it was a success, took it all outside and got 3d GPS immediately and the light on the pixhawk is now solid green which I understand is " ready to fly" the bad ahrs message has gone but I still have a failsafe message but I suspect that is possibly related to a setting for flight/ altitude. anyway it's moving in a positive direction I think
Hello your TH-cam films are create.
I hope that you can help my. How do you connect the Raymarine to a wifi telemetry module esp8266. Whit Carp pilot pro. I hope that you can help
Do it simple and buy a wifi telemetry module for pixhawk on Ali express. Order one without external antenna. And with connector for a pixhawk. When you receive it: Plug it into telem1 port. Use a phine/tablet and connector to its wifi. Go to setup. Chose station mode and enter ssid and password for the raymarine. Reboot. Done.
Like this:
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Need more help, the lookup the Facebook group for Carp Pilot Pro.
I hef a pixhawk
Not covered by these videos.
Buy this adapter:
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Then look at the other answer I gave.