Minelab Manticore - Avoid Those Nails! Tips
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- Mark takes the New Minelab Manticore out to an old site where him and Ron did a TV show once on CBS Sunday Morning. There has been many machines over the site over the years and this is a great test for the Manticore. Mark shows you how to avoid digging those iron and nails. Stay tuned for many more videos coming soon on the new Minelab Manticore Metal Detector. Also Mark just got the new Minelab Equinox 900 so watch for those videos too!!
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Minelab Manticore - Avoid Those Nails! Tips
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Your communication is first class so clear and relevant. Thank you.
I would like to thank you for making these videos. You speak clearly AND THE VIDEOS sure look good as well as informative thanks
Very, very informative. Thanks for sharing the hunt and your insights. I loved hearing the tones.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave a comment!
35:30 totally cool...your videos are the next best thing to actually being out doing the metal detecting ourselves. The insight into this new Manticore is invaluable...THANK YOU!!!
Greetings from Finland...18 inches of snow on the ground...and counting...
just got my Manticore. getting used to it and you have defiantly helped in this video. I'm now a subscriber. thank you
best Wantacore video so far! keep em coming....
The best video I have seen on one so far Merry Christmas and happy new year
Thank you for those kind words, thank you for the view and comment! Merry Christmas and Happy New Years to you too!
Great video! Thanks for the info! 👍👍👍
Mark, you sure know how to put out a quality, fun, and informative video. I suspect your subscriber numbers will rapidly
increase. I hope you will elaborate on the iron falsing in other videos to come. I'd like to see you ''call it'' when you come to a possible falsing target, and see how close to 100% you can come. Thanks for the very good video!
Thank you Kenny! I absolutely will continue to demonstrate the iron delay and I really need to test this in all modes and tweak the recovery speed a bit to see if it gets worse or better. Much more to come on this and I will undoubtedly try and "Call It" every time just so we can all learn to trust this theory. Thank you for the view and comment!
Thank you for the tip about the delayed audio! I just got to use my new manticore last weekend, and I'm trying to figure it out. Since these don't have target sizing, a quick trick for aluminum cans is just raising your coil 6 to 10 inches above the target and if it's still making a loud tone, it's going to be a can.
And thank you for covering up your holes. It drives me crazy when I get out into the hills around here and see holes all over the place.
If you're ever around the 80 corridor, maybe I'll see you around.
Good job Mark.
Thanks for this. I also own a CTX and I love the Manticore because of this.
Yes, I am really rooting for the Manticore to be the machine that will and can replace my trusty CTX, we're almost there!!! 🤠 Thanks for the view and comment!
Clearly see what you showing about the delay thank you for your video. Thinking about buying the manticore in the uk Len
I love all your information and your a great teacher thanks
Well done! Thank you for the insight Mark!
Thank you so much for the view and taking the time to leave a kind comment!!
@@BrassMedic happy to receive more great info on this beast of a machine. Always learning from some great detectorisits!
I had the CTX 3030. and I agree with the delay you really have to watch your spot. I liked when you mark the spot and if it don’t hear the sound exactly in the same spot every time you know it probably iron.
So yes, if you come from the CTX you already think this way, it definitely translates over to the Manticore too. Thank you for the view and comment!
Well done video. I loved your observation on the construction of the cellar hole! The iron delay observation was interesting and is helpful for both the CTX 3030 and the new Maniticore. A good early testing out of the Manicore in a iron trashy site and I like your pinpointer sizing idea. It looks like no detector will spare us from modern or older trash!
Thank you Susan, for now we will just have to hope and wait for what we hope is an eminent update. I like this machine in every other way! Thanks for the view and comment!
I just can't believe the initial "testers" didn't relay this to Minelab pre launch.
I wasn't a tester on this machine but had I been . . coming from countless thousands of hours on the CTX, I could have explained this to them. Hopefully they (Especially Mark Lawrie) see this video (I will also send him an email)! Thanks for the view and comment!
@@BrassMedic Awesome, thanks!
Kind of like the leaking 800 Minelab knew before they released it
@@rickriver4994 True!
Another fantastic video!
Thank you buddy, MUCH Appreciated!!
Really informative video. Merry Christmas to you!
Same to you!! Thank you 🤠
Very interesting. An important video in furthering our collective understanding of the Manticore! Thankyou for your expertise and effort.
Loving your videos on the Manticore can’t wait for you to try it on a beach as well
We have a beach trip planned this coming week!! Stay tuned 😎 Thank you for the view and comment!
That’s an excellent observation, and apparently repeatable that you made concerning iron and the delay factor in the audio signal. Every new machine that comes out, always needs software updates to pinpoint problem areas, but for $1600 I’m still on the fence and waiting to see more results from users. I’m currently a Nokta legend and XP Deus2 user, so the manticore is going to have to prove itself in an exceptional way for me to fork out that kind of money. Thanks very much for an informative video! 👍
Your in the same situation as most of my buddies I hunt with so time will tell but the Legend and D2 are so incredible already it's going to take a drastic improvement in some way with performance to get you to jump ship. I will say that as far as build quality, design, form and function, it's already VERY Impressive!! Thanks Doug for the view and comment!! Much appreciated 🤠
Nice video, I like watching live digs its shows us what its like to use the machine. I can hear the difference that you describe, sometimes I can go for hours digging junk then all of a sudden that sharp one pops out and yeah, its mostly a coin.
Thank you, I try to make videos the way I like to watch them too. A little bit of the scenery and adventure mixed in with some testing. I also dig lots of junk before I dig something really good. Thanks for the view and comment!
Great vid.
Excellent video! Thanks!
Much appreciated!! 🤠
A really good vid, the first one I've watched of you. Going to look for some of your Deus 2 vids as well because I don't have a Manticore.
Enjoyed
I just picked my Manticore up today, I stepped up from a Whites MXT and Minelab x-terra 705. I I only had a chance to go out in the yard with it. My first two targets sounded good and had decent VDi...both ended up being nails. Kind of bugged me. Thanks for the nails tips.
Awesome video bro 💯💯💯
I'm also a tone person. I have many hours on the 800 in all types of soil and I've also noticed the iron delay on it as well as a tone change on aluminum, versus coins. From what I've seen so far, I'm leaning towards the 900 instead of the Manticore and only for the waterproofing.
I honestly don't think the waterproofing will be an issue again at all, they completely redesigned the housing internally and it was at the top of the list of the R&D and design team. I'm sure that both the Manticore and Equinox 900 will be fine now underwater. But it makes total sense for you to be attracted to the successor of the 800 since you're so used to it. It's very hard to convey hearing tones in a certain way through a video!!! Thank you for the view and comment.
Thanks good video.
Good tips thanks on the iron just got the 900 Merry Christmas
Thank you Mark, your going to love that 900, it's a beautiful machine!! And one of the best money can buy! Merry Christmas!
@@BrassMedic yep broke it in today 16 degrees out hit a Ike dollar! Some wheats
I like the thinking. Maybe every other machine has been over every choice piece of land around, yet they haven’t been gone over with the newest of machines 👍🏼 always hope, although I think we’ll run out of spade before we run out of detecting power. 🤙🏼
Great observation! Helps with determining which machine I buy next-D2 being still higher on the list than the M, but close!
Many are in this same boat right now and understandably!! You can always be like me and get both! 😜 Seriously though each has their own strengths! Thanks a lot for the view and comment!
I am from Russia and we didn’t get this Manticore in any stores yet, no even one real ground test from our guys… I have an Equinox 800 and thinking about the upgrade, but I can’t realise is this machine worth the price of 2000$ 🤔 I like your videos, thank you, merry Christmas bro and keep going! 💪🏼
Very good information - enjoyed. Excited to get my Manticore 😁
Thanks for good vid and tips. Please dig neat plugs so beginners can learn that as well.
Thank you for the view and your comment. This brings up a great point and I do hope to emphasize this more in all future videos.
I have a coin set up on my equinox 800 and I get this exact delayed tone , every time it’s a nail! It took me awhile but I noticed!
I don't have lots of seat time on the Equinox 800, so I never noticed it as I probably never had to worry or think about it on the 800,it discriminated enough of them that it was not a big issue for me I guess? Thank you for the view and comment!! 🤠
Would love to see side by side comparisons on targets in the field not air tests of the CTX 3030 vs. Manticore. Thanks for sharing your perspective with all of us.
Great idea and consider it in the plans! Will try to get to this when I get a little break in the weather. Thanks for the view and comment!
No chance for 3030 and sure loose every test with the beast, of gold ring or gold chain... No Chance...!
Love informative videos like this. Just subscribed to your channel. Real quick question, Would that audible iron delay be changed by going to the "fast mode"? thanks.
I can’t wait till the smaller coil comes out for the manticore .
Thx. Id like to see goldfield being used for prospecting pickers and nuggets around a river or old river bed.
Hi Mark, thanks for your video. I just started using the Equinox 900 after 37 years of a Whites 6000 DI Pro. I have to admit I'm underwhelmed (except for the depth increase.) My biggest frustration is the chatter/chirping of the machine. I used to be able to hunt with low threshold, fairly quiet, and iron was choppy...everything else was good. Easy. These new machines are the opposite of that. I hear it on your video also...every swing has 2,3,4 chirps...some high tones, some low tones and some seem repeatable. Why don't you dig those or double check those? How do you know those are junk? What am I missing? Even my beach trip I found the hunting to be very slow because I stall on each blip and chirp, going over it to see if its repeatable, and it takes 3 times as long to search because of that. Please help before I return to my old machine lol.
Great video btw
Thanks buddy! 🤠
Thanks
Thanks for the video. Your machine sounds exactly like mine does in the nails...Some people have never hunted in old mining camps full of square nails and are not used to hearing a machine false like that. On the bottle cap there are a few stragglers that will pop out side that disked out area right were your did. They always are a cap. I noticed you did not engage the horse shoe much when interrogating a target...probably because of the hot soil and proximity of the targets to iron? They will probably have sizing on the CTX replacement...
I will be honest and say that I mostly only hunt in old mining camps and specifically target the 1850's camps for California Gold Rush buckles, buttons, etc. I never encounter bottle caps and this one caught me a little off guard. It's not a problem for me day to day, if it was I would definitely try and notch it out. But I am sure that there are many park hunters here and it is a huge concern for them. The first couple videos I ran the machine open with the horseshoe off in all-metal but for this video I was more focused on the nails and tones, but wish I would have for others who may not have seen any of my other Manticore videos. If I ever take this machine out and leave the trusty CTX at home, I will be in all-metal the whole time. I run my CTX open at all sites and I am used to it (Anyone who might think this video is bad, you should hear what I hear on the CTX in the heavy iron wide open!! It can be maddening if your not used to it). I am sure your correct about The Minelab "Ultimate" (the new successor to the CTX-3030) since we already have it on the 3030. Still going to run it by the engineers at Minelab for something to consider on the Manticore. Thank you for the view and comment!
I run a ctx so i understand what your saying about the delay.
Well there is definitely nothing in the owners manual or even here on TH-cam where people talk about this on the CTX but anyone who has some serious experience and hours logged figures it out pretty quick. If I made a video of me swinging my CTX in a site running it the way I do . . . they would be concerned about how many targets I pass up that may sound good to the viewer. I can hear iron very well on the CTX, as well as density, shape and size. It's a 3D experience for me and I have a good feel for what's in the ground under the coil but that's because I know those tones so very well. Even just changing the headphones or making any change whatsoever to the programs I use would mess me up pretty good! 😜 Thanks for the view and comment!
I'm surprised how much differently we run machines Mark. I like to hear it all. Maybe that's why I'm deaf, lol
Yeah Ray on my CTX (I know Kevin H is the same way) I/we run them wide open 29/30 sens with a threshold, lot's of audio coming in, you hear literally everything. But I have to keep in mind that we are the minority as most probably want the machine to hear good targets and not have to listen to "all" of the audio detail possible, so I have to see if it's even capable of that by running it as most users would. If for example I would have ran it in all-metal (horseshoe) in this video so the viewers could hear the iron grunts, it would have distracted many from hearing the tones we were concentrating on, it was bad enough that I had the threshold up to what some might call an annoying volume. In this video I am trying to run it like most would so I can see how they are going to experience using it. Today I was out with Tom at the ranch and was in All-Metal the whole day! Threshold, Iron Grunts, EMI and all!! lol 😜🤪
I'm still waiting on my prepaid manticore. I feel I'll be more prepared for sucess due to your video's
Very nice vid thanks for your precious time and effort but I'm not sold on that machine yet my 800 with coilteck coil is just as good
Great Video Mark.... always something new out.. Out of curiosity, I have the GPX 6000 and also the Equinox 800 and Gold monster 1000. We have had family issues since I purchased the 6000 so haven't had the chance to swing it but what are your thought on these? Would the 6000 also work on the different types of targets?
Clever workaround for a major flaw with this new machine. (Just my opinion.) Hopefully Minelab fixes this quick with an update. I'm buying myself a upper end machine before next spring, but I'm going to get a Deus II unless this Manticore gets lined out pretty quick. The lighter weight of the XP is appealing to me also.
Great points and I see your dilemma on that! Hopefully way before Spring on an update?!! Can't go wrong with a D2 though. Hopefully this is all water under the bridge in 30 days from now. Thanks for the view and comment!
Hey Mark I know you done this video 8 months ago and of course you've done the update by now .With the update have you found that the theory of the delay signal on iron still apply? I just did my update last night and haven't had the chance to try it out yet.Keep up the good work bro.thanks.
Hi Rick, yes, it's still a thing. However with so many fewer nails falsing through I don't have to apply those audio tests to my targets anymore. Like I said in my video(s) I learned this on my CTX-3030 and it has become second nature now. I have never used any other machine ever made (to date) that is as good as the CTX-3030 in ignoring iron and giving clues to iron that is not being filtered. CTX with the 6" coil is still the king to me . . . but I do know that the speed of the processor in circuit causes that machine to miss some ferrous targets that are being masked by non-ferrous co-located. In a new virgin site I am always going to take my CTX in day 1 and it will essentially cherry pick all the good stuff quickly, then I have to come back next time with a Manticore, Deus II, Legend, Equinox 900, etc to creep through the heavy iron. Thank you for your continued support and kind words, it really does mean a lot to me!!
I'm a new subscriber and have been enjoying your videos. With the Manticore and CTX3030, is there an easy trick to tell the difference between a square nail vs a large iron relic? Like you, I like the hand-forged iron relics like you found here but would like to pass over the square nails.
One huge advantage on the CTX for large iron relics like picks, axe heads, etc. is it has a target overload alert feature that warns you it's a big target, so that helps. I don't think we have that feature on the Manticore (yet). But to answer the question, one the CTX we also have pinpoint sizing which when turned on gives you a large target indication on the graph to let you know it's big iron. Just out detecting in early sites though, if you don't use the pinpoint sizing or it's too deep to overload, you will just be caught by surprise when you look down in your hole and see an axe head! Trust me, I find lot's of them with the CTX. They are fun to find and admire! Thanks for the view and great question!
Thanks for another informative video! For this tip of looking for the delayed beep on iron (false signal) - Are you using corded headphones? Would you be able to tell this with the low latency non-corded headphones? Thanks!
Love that soil i will be digging not stop just to clean the place up, great video.
Where did you got your manticore from? Greetings from Southern California.
Man that's a good point!!!! I mean why not? Definitely going to unmask some stuff around the foundations. Thank you for the view and comment. 🤠
I grew up right down the road from there. You should get ahold of me if you can. I could swing through. We could detect some time if you want.
This video was filmed in Rescue CA but trust me when I tell you that I have done a lot of detecting in Auburn area and I love that area as well. You can find my email in the description of all of my videos I would like for you to send me an email so we can connect and try to get out through some detecting in that area soon. Fair warning though the grass is really high right now in the California Foothills. Thanks for checking out the video and taking the time to leave a comment!
That’s a really good video keep them coming , but that Manticore of true price shouldn’t be giving good signals on nails hopefully minelab sort this out ASAP ! Very strange this hasn’t been picked up by the Testers pre release
Yes, strange for sure. Took me only an hour or two and I knew every single flaw! Trust me when I say that when this thing is in your hands, you can feel the build quality and it's a masterpiece of engineering, definitely worth the price in that regard. Just falls short on what is expected in the iron (so far). Thanks for the view and comment!
The key to any machine is time using it and learning it, it takes a lot of time. Have you noticed if the delay on iron has anything to do with how that piece is laying in the ground. Curious, what is the morse code beeping I hear constantly coming from this machine? Loving your videos. Got to get a hunt together one of these days.
threshold tone
Hi Wes, Merry Christmas!! Don't think it has much to do with the position in the ground, however there absolutely could be differences in the 2D trace on for example a nail standing straight up or laying sideways. The Morse code sound is a combination of both threshold breaks and iron grunts. It's a whole lot of sonic info coming in and many don't like that as it can definitely cause some ear fatigue. Not at all necessary to run it like that, it can actually run silent except for the beeps on targets. Hoping we can get out one of these days soon!
Excellent informative video !!
Much appreciated!! 🤠
2 trips with manacore on all metal reject 20 tagets very spot on midlline every time all brass,lead 22cell in the gold seting
I will be doing some Gold Mode this week too. Can't wait to try that mode!! Thanks for the view and comment!
Hey Mark. I am extremely new to metal detecting, having only just purchased my Manticore. I have stumbled across your channel and boy is it helpful, so thank you for that, I am confused about the signals that you were receiving, like Robert below, for example around the 23 minute mark (Maybe you have already answered this question but I can't find it sorry). Sweeping over the grassed area and manny signals being heard, however you considered them to be of no value. I would love to learn how you can tell the difference between a valuable signal and one that is not. In your case I would have been digging every time I heard something, and the field would have looked like Swiss cheese.
This is a great question and one that is easily answered in one on one training sessions with me but to wxplain it here I would just say it's because of experience in knowing which signals to go back and swing over to recheck them. I mean it takes a certain quality of the tone to get you to stop and swing enough to get it to repeat, then more to turn 90 degrees to check it again, etc. So no real easy answer to put it in writing. I should do a video on this! Thank you for your comment and question!
Fun fact, it's not a delay you are experiencing with iron, rather since the magnetic field lines of the EM field like to curl outwards from the centerline of the DD coil, the iron nail produces it's peak conductive response when the field lines run parallel to the length of the nail, and when running vertical it produces it's peak magnetic response. So it literally hits strongest slightly off center, just as you are observing. Same effect can happen with a vertically oriented coin.
Best comment ever! Thank you for this. Wish I could pick your brain a bit. Thank you for the view and sharing info!
@@BrassMedic You will notice those 2D screen traces start in the iron zone (and are therefore muted / called iron) and then drag into non-ferrous once the object is slightly off center from the coil centerline, thus producing the 'delay' you observe :)
@@LorenLemcke What is your background to know this if you don't mind me asking? Can you please email me at: treasureboxguy@gmail.com Thanks!!
That is true. It is a reason a larger coil can "see" a coin on edge better than a small coil. The secondary magnetic field generated in the coin is initially horizontal and wide, which the narrow field of the small coil can miss. A coin on edge or horizontally elongated iron (nail) generates secondary MFs in ether direction which can be interpreted as double blips or off-center blips.
Hi Mark. I’ve been enjoying your recent videos on the manticore. I’m living vicariously thru yours and other MC owners’ vids right now. I’ve read the entire manual already a few times over lol.
A couple observations after watching this video, with specificity to 4:35, the audio “delay” you speak of when encountering iron targets. It’s going to take a lot of words to explain this, so bear with me here……….I’ve got my own perspective on this phenomenon based on what I saw on your 2D target trace when you were explaining this “delay”……I know you understand the following details I’m about to tell you, but I thinks it’s necessary to type this for the others that watched your video (and to lay the groundwork for my thoughts).
First, let’s examine carefully the target trace of the target at 4:35. It was a specific kind of trace that extended into both ferrous and non-FE regions of the screen. Since you weren’t hunting in horse shoe (all metal mode), the iron audio is silent, thus the part of a target trace that partially extends (or smears) into your ferrous limits boundaries will be silent, and whatever part of the trace that’s outside the ferrous limits will produce an audio response (if it’s not masked out). So the total product of any 2D trace that paints both inside and outside a ferrous limit (or discriminated/notched area of the screen) could produce this audio delay because the audio goes silent a short amount of time before becoming audible again…..if you were in horse shoe mode then you’d hear your iron low tones mixed with the audible non-ferrous tone on those specific traces that are smeared across the non-ferrous and ferrous boundaries (no loss of audio).
This is nothing more than my perspective….too bad you can’t discuss this phenomenon with a ML engineer. Of course, this perspective would be debunked if you can still hear a delayed audio response on a target that traces 100% outside any shaded regions of your 2D display….
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Great and informative video. I currently use the Deus but try to keep up with the newest technology releases. I’m liking what I see with the Manticore. How do you like the handle that vibrates? Interesting feature.
Alan in Ca.
Hi Alan!! I didn't think I would care much about the handle that vibrates, but I personally already like it and will use it often. So now we can hear, see and feel a target, engaging 3 different senses just gets me more connected to what's under my coil. A little concerned about it's impact on battery drain. Thanks for the view and comment!!
Been watching your videos this morning in anticipation of my own Manticore purchase soon. Question you probably get all the time: What is the most valuable thing youve found and most interesting thing youve found?
Great video will have to try that when I get my manticore, on another question totally off topic the flannel you are wearing in this video, what company makes that flannel. Thank you keep up the good work.
Yes, hopefully we won't have to worry about this much longer and they can get us an update. The flannel shirt is Awesome! So comfortable I can recommend it for sure. It's an Orvis Heavyweight Men's Flannel Shirt. Bought it at Costco but not sure if they still carry them, Costco item number was: 1312517. Thank you for the view and comment!
@@BrassMedic Orvis at Costco wow :-) thank you I appreciate it,good luck
I put it out there on my channel about the delay. I tried it on yesterdays hunt to no avail..I am struggling with this unit in iron to say the least. I will continue to look at the delay and will test it in many scenarios to see if I can catch it lying to me....Maybe your on to something...What happens when you lower the upper ferrous? I saw you were running 12?? BTW even if you are on to something we STILL need a update to fix the =nail issue and sizing problem..Good Video
Thanks!
Yeah it’s nice to watch a video that’s actually about testing and educating instead of spouting blowhard BS about how great he is. Calabash is a complete joke.
Yes I was increasing the upper limit to no avail. You and me both know at 12 or above I'm just masking goodies below. Didn't help by increasing it, tried drastic settings but none worked. It's a real issue and disappointing to say the least as I have said many times I am rooting for this machine to be all it can be! We have major weather but I'm looking to get back out asap and try another site that will be challenging. Thank you for the view and kind words!!
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Good video mate. Next in my iron conditions I can’t imagine that amount on iron falsing. With XP Deus II is significantly lower. High ferrous limit means masking for high conductors. How you ground balance the device? What about to move coil higher above the ground?
Thank you, I have to think my iron nail conditions here are about as bad as it can be. Probably masking most of what I am trying to find. I can't agree that the iron falsing on the Deus II is less, it's an iron magnet too and every Deus owner has a HUGE collection of horseshoes!! 🤣 But man that machine is fast in the iron and can separate better than anything else right now! Ground balance is typical, hold and pump coil, has auto-tracking too. You should always GB first before noise cancel. Thanks for the view, comment and questions!!
@@BrassMedic sounds good we see soon. Thank you mate.
It almost looked like you had a few bites, but you let em go, lol, whenever i watch these hunting vids, it`s like, . . wait, go back to that other signal! where you going, go back.
I know I'm the same way when I watch other detecting videos! It's very difficult to watch and listen to somebody else detect and wonder why they did or didn't stop on certain signals or go back to reinvestigate. About the only time it really makes sense is when someone's walking with you and you both have the same signal coming into both of your headphones then it kind of makes more sense. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Iron.
Hearing phase shift.
Would LOVE to hear the audio for melted aluminum and silver of equal mass and shape.
That first signal you dug on this video I could hear the way it was modulating differently. I couldn’t see if it was on the non ferrous line? Looked like it was just above it.
Yes exactly, first time it touched the top box but when I turned 90 it didn't. We shouldn't even have to wonder or ponder this as nails shouldn't sound so darn good! On this machine or any other high end machine. Def an issue right now. Thank you for the view and comment! 🤠
Sweet audio on this machine.
I see exactly what you're talking about with the delay, but doesn't the two-dimensional ID screen show that is smearing like iron does?
Mine came in today and I’m want to know which water proof headphones will work with the manticore one with a long enough cord to set it on the ground when digging
Hello. I have deus2 (even 13 inch coil) but i am not very impressed by the depth. Its separate good.. but i need more depth. CTX3030 is good for depth BUT i think the manticore is a good upgrade. How you think can manticore compare with CTX3030? And can you give a opinion for deus2 too. Thank you!
Hola . Te escribo desde Argentina.
Excelente vídeo
Observación = yo utilizo equinox 600 y lo tengo configurado en 2 tonos.
Para que me sepa identificar en metales ferrosos ó no ferrosos .
Los metales no ferrosos, me lo toma en un tono agudo..
Espero que el manticore tenga esa opción.
Saludos .. y mucha suerte
Hola, ¡Gracias por registrarte desde Argentina! Sí, Manticore tiene la misma configuración disponible. Todos los tonos son totalmente personalizables para que puedas escucharlos como prefieras. ¡Mucha suerte a ti también y feliz año nuevo! 🤠
very cool...have whites V3I will travel cheers! why is the iron not sounding like iron and hitting at a lower vdi # ?
That's a GREAT Machine!! Had ground breaking features, was fun to use.
I miss Auburn
Me too, I'm moving there eventually. So many great areas to detect around there.
Does the fast mode eliminate the nail delay?
Do you know if Minelab has updated the software since you made this video? I was searching a beach area yesterday and there were many large iron targets. I dug a few and found large iron bars like part of a ships railing. It made discriminating the targets very difficult as there was iron everywhere with each swing. The 2D screen showed large cloudy gray areas that ran between both ferrous limits.
The Minelab Manticore has not been updated yet since it's release to the market. However, there is an update coming very soon and it will give us some new features as well as some fixes. Keep a close eye on my channel over the next few weeks as I will announce the update and be releasing detailed videos on all of the new features and fixes. Thanks for the view, question and comment!
G'day from oz.its hitting on the coil edge as it leaves the target with the whites tdi pulse detectors it's a sure sign of iron low tone and high sweek as the coil leaves the iron
Thanks Roy for checking in from down under!! So your hearing on this machine the same thing you were hearing on a Whites PI machine on iron? Or do you just mean, generally speaking in terms of why this happens? Thanks again for the view and comment!
@@BrassMedic I think that's why you think it's a delay,it's sounding off not in the middle of the coil but on the rim as it leaves the iron don't know why,it must have something to do with discrimination.on the rid it only do it when you have ground balance on witch gives you a form of disc,very handy on the beaches.
Would be interesting to see what happens when you have the threshold on minelabs all null in iron see if the threshold nulls on the target and then sounds off as you leave the target iron
Has the manticore had any software updates? I can't find any updates for it on the minelab site
Hi man how long the battery last with vibrations on?
What kind of gloves fo you use? Thanks
What sensitivity do you set your pin pointer at?
On most Adventures I have it turned up as high as you can go but I change it at different times to achieve different things it's hard to say where I had it in anyone certain part of the video without really carefully observing it but just generally speaking I keep it turned all the way up
I paid $1500 for my etrac like 15 years ago. I don't think the Manticors price is out of line. Also if the Legend expanded thier TID numbers to 99 it would make it much better.
I honestly don't have a problem with the price, it's a masterpiece of design, ergonomics and build quality! Just wishing for an update to address these issues. I totally agree about the Legend. Great machine as is though!
Just with tools , best equipment costs money .
Serious money , the expensive high end machines often are the best , plain fact , but that does not mean the cheaper ones cannot be great .
I used a tesoro vaquero for a pretty long time and it was a “ fairly cheap “ detector but my best founds where made with that one.
Some of the “ cheaper “ detectors just turned out to be great tools… same story for the simplex and legend who are both serious gear for a very very good price ..
Have you heard of the klayzer max 2d detector? If what are your thoughts.
I have not.... Should I look into it? I'm always down to try new machines! Thanks for the view and comment!
I noticed it looked like you had tracking on; do you always run with tracking on?
It really depends and I honestly have not had enough seat time on the Manticore to have a firm opinion on that. This video has a site where there are a few distinctly different soils. You get the typical red dirt we have hear in the California Gold Country. Then you have the nutrient rich soil under the canopy of the giant oak trees. And there is even a few areas where your in Native American Midden mounds. After trying to ground balance when I got there I decided to leave it in tracking just so I didn't have to chase it. If you decide to manually GB at any point at this site, you would have to hike away from the foundations quite at least 100 yards to find clean ground. By that time who knows what kind of soil your on compared to in the iron. Thanks for the View, Comment and Question!
just got to the clad dime....trace should have been round blob IMHO....was expecting more accuracy from the trace feature...
I watched that back and listening to it and seeing the trace, I suspect it was lying in the hole kind of slanted. In my coin garden I have a quarter on edge and it has that same 2D trace as this dime had. Coins lying flat look great, little round dots! Thanks for the view and comment!
Is your recovery speed not giving you more or less delay? Would it not be hard in low recovery speed to hear the difference? How come a nail give such good VDI?
I will have to check that for you (different recovery speeds). This delay is something I noticed but can't recommend that you live and die by it. Hopefully this all doesn't matter in a short while and an update will come out. That is the big question we are wondering right now... How a nail can sound so good?? 🤔 Thank you for the view and comment!
Did the Deus 2 false on iron nails as much as the Manticore, at this site?
Not really but it heard every single piece of weird shaped iron, like horseshoes, flat iron pieces and hand forged stuff. But honestly not a big deal with the square nails. This is a D2 site all the way! Thanks for the view and comment/question!
I own a White's Spectra V3i, and the Equinox 800. Does the Manticore or any other 'simultaneous' freq. metal detector show the freq. you are scanning, or pinpointing, or the simultaneous freq. as the V3i does and checking Electro-Magnetic Interference (EMI)? The benefits of this showing on the display are overwhelming. Without this feature on a 'simultaneous' metal detector leaves an operator 'simply guessing' what the frequency is? And the operator will state my metal detector is 'chatty'. It would have to be 'chatty'? Scanning in multi 'simultaneous'? The V3i shows this on a color-coded graph allowing the operator to determine what the freq. is that is causing the most EMI. Likewise, what freq. would cause the iron to false to make any necessary adjustments. I intend to upgrade to a newer detector; however, I will wait till one comes out with the features showing the freq. in all modes. I subscribed!
Wow, this is a great comment and question!!! So, unfortunately we do not know the exact frequencies that are being transmitted in Multi-Freq mode on the Manticore (or the Equinox or the CTX) Minelab considers that proprietary information and does not want to share that, nor display it to the user. Instead to overcome EMI there are several features of the machine and circuit that try to eliminate it at the most common sources such as in the coil wire, grounding and shielding on the circuit board and of course the Noise Cancel feature which is designed to do what your Whites V3i is suggesting but in the Minelab it's happening under the hood. How often do you run across this with your Whites V3i and does it always work when you duck the trouble frequency(s)? I did like that feature on the V3i and the color coding, etc. That was ground breaking technology when it came out. It was the first Super Machine we all ever saw. Thanks for the view, the question and for subbing! 🤠
@@BrassMedic Thank you for the kind words. The beautiful, color-coded graph with the adequate information in my opinion is 'delayed' premised on copyright issues? A rumor is that Garrett is going to bring out a new detector. They would have acquired White's including the intellectual property copyright? Addendum: You inquired about "[H]ow often do you run across this with your Whites V3i and does it always work when you duck the trouble frequency(s)?: Ante. I have never encountered any problem with E M I. I found earthmansurfer69 How to set up the White's V3i helpful. The newer metal detectors do not have the ability to configure a metal detector. The best part of the V3i is the fact that it teaches you metal detecting better than any other? It will teach you patience.
I call it a drag. It drags the audio from being iron it's IMO a curse on Minelab detectors. It's not a bang or a slap it hits and drags the signal even though it's a false signal. I used to tell when I was FALSING on those old bimetal bottle caps with a DFX it was the tell take sign of those older bottle caps that are impossible to disc out by most detectors.
Actually when I hunted with an older pulse inductor it kind of gave that sound and even though pulse inductors back then didn't disc I could hear the difference in a coin or a ring to a nail
So are you a believer are do you think the Etric would still get you more silver
I have countless thousands of hours using the Minelab eTrac and now I have been using the Manticore as much as possible since it came out I can hold hardly say that yes I am a believer that the Manticore is a far better machine in many ways and in really in every way. Thank yiu for watching and for the comment/question!
Brass Medic what camera mount are you using?
Sheesh... the chest mount 🥺😳 and I apologize for my crappy angles, won't happen again. Was agonizing to see those angles in post production. Head mount is just as bad if not worse, what I really need is a film crew 😜🤣. But it's the GoPro chest mount. I think I can do much better with it next time. I have the tools to make you guys killer videos, just need to learn and sort out all of the pitfalls and each video will get better that the last in some way. Thanks for the view and comment/question!
@@BrassMedic No apologies needed.. I actually liked the view. I just ordered one for my daughter. Keep up the great work and thanks for all you do!
same conclsive determination is avaialble by using pinopoint--wide or narrow. start with your basics, master... pinpoint tells you the size and context. ...also, this fulll cross you are doing is not necessarry--just a slight angle will miss fewer masked targets while still telling you about the consistency. a full cross is for something out in the open--no nearby iron. the "lag " is a good tip--I put it in my Anfibio book but its not a stand alone. --often reveals were you have cross feeds from a bunch of nails or wire. difference bettween small and deep? that's something else that piinpoint tells you. the tech wont do everything for you. sorry to be a pain but I call em like I see em. this is what the NOX started eveyone things that basics skills are a waste of time lol.
How do you rate to the Dues 2?
Right now D2 is king of the hill. I live the build quality, design and menu system on the Manticore, it's a design masterpiece but until they can get the performance issues ironed out, D2 is better. I would rate the Manticore better in value as far as build quality, tones, design, ergonomics, comfort and balance of swing, GUI (graphical user interface) in the menu and depth! But in performance D2 is better right now. Thank you for the fantastic question!! Happy New Years! 🤠