david fry, sometimes you’ve gotta protect the players from the players just to keep the confidence of the players... Too much? Yeah, that feels like too much.
This is just so disappointing.... the Astros were such a great story.... and now... this will taint them for the rest of their careers.... maybe Patrick Reed should join the team.....
These guys should MAN up, apologise & explain. I have lost even more respect based on these answers from these two and the Astros. Thank you Rich Eisen you for talking about these two crazy responses. Blows my mind that they can respond like this... MLB needs to go after these guys, if for anything, for the integrity of the game.
It shouldn't blow your mind. They basically pleaded the 5th which if you've done something wrong is the smart thing to do. Altuve or Bregman don't want to be the next banned for life after Pete Rose.
Why? Because right now the only possible way for an outcome (banned for life) is for proof. The proof would be someone blowing the whistle, or them admitting it. So the only way for them at the moment, is to deny. Once proof comes out and they've been proven guilty, is when they would apologize and explain.
Limp wristed commissioner said it was player driven, yet no players are punished. This won't be over until their title is taken away. They benefitted from cheating, it's proven, end of discussion. Their responses or lack thereof makes me sick
@@IronAvenger2k05 Still a sad excuse for doing it. The same excuse for using a corked bat. "No noticable difference!" Then why repeat in 2019 what did not work in 2017?
They need to give back the rings, the banner, Altuve's MVP, suspend anyone and everyone on the 2017 Roster for a season ...Cora and Hinch as well as the GM should be banned. And if it turns out that Boston did it in 2018... same deal. Way Worse than anything Pete Rose ever did.
@@_gabe_2407 They got plenty to eat.. fat off bonuses and recognition, damaging young pitchers, wrecking others legacies...etc etc. Its ill gotten, tainted, and they should be forced to give it all back and pay a severe penalty so it serves as warning and never happens again. No Mercy.
Oh this one wins. Corey not sure, brings in Rick and he lowballs as usual. Or 30 years from now the kids of the American Pickers find the trash can and gush over the Americana when they find it in the garage of some dude that looks slightly like Jeff Lunouw who now lives in the backwoods of Missouri and is toothless and has a two foot beard.
Every road game they play should be greeted by chants of “cheaters”. Every single road game. And they should be greeted by that chant at home by fans of the game.
They have no shame, the Astros are a disgrace to professional baseball. They should be stripped of the championship. There are petitions online for the mlb to take further action.
I say let the championship stand, but ban any of the cheating players for life... players who were complicit should be fined and get 1/2 year suspensions.
MLB let the players off the hook thinking this story was going to quickly disappear. Well, it's not. As a matter of fact more stuff has come out since the suspensions were announced. It's a huge mess. Players need to be suspended.
Vacate or be forever drilled. I hope the Yankees and Dodgers and A's bean every one of them relentlessly, they prospered from cheating, end of discussion
@@IronAvenger2k05 If anything they save money from not having to give signing bonuses to 1st/2nd RD picks. There's also like 40 other rounds to pick, so it's not as important as the NFL where you only have 7 rounds.
I have lost all respect for the Astros and the Major League front office.. It’s a disgrace and I don’t think I want to watch a sport that cheaters win.. too much other stuff to do than piss time and money away paying attention to baseball..
Nobody said anything about pitchers cheating. Verlander didn't do anything wrong. He deserves better than this. I hope he demands a trade out of this mess
@@chandlerwhite8302 to me it seemed like they didn't want Verlander to know they were cheating. I always wondered why Verlander didn't get the run support that other starters got during the 17 season. I mean Verlander didn't get there until what? August of that year? I'm just saying it's possible
Versatil Titan your team concocted the worst scandal the sport has seen since the 1919 Black Sox. It’s not a witch hunt, and they’re not pariahs. They’re a bunch of self serving, cheating boneheads who are getting exactly what they deserve
What a joke, Altuve went from being my favorite player to a pathetic cheater! What a disgrace to baseball and all the young fans that's inspire to be like them. The Astros organization has no class and the players are living proof. Where is the remorse, shame and respect? Their arrogance is infuriating me.
As a Dodgers fan I always had a lot of respect for Altuve, the smallest guy in the league was also one of the game’s best hitters. This scandal makes you rethink a lot of what you think about him and also his ability. Fair or not, his legacy is on the line for most fans in the near future.
will post here my comment from another video: "I would start getting used to eating 90mph fastballs to the ribs and wont be just at yanks and dodgers stadiums, trust me on that"
Don't forget Oakland! We are not happy about winning 97 games two years running without cheating and getting nowhere in the playoffs. I hope they all get drilled relentlessly
Your comment would be clever if there was any proof of truth behind it. However it's no way comparable. The Astros cheated in a facet of the game that actually affects the outcome - player performance. Argue until you're blue in the face, but no amount of videotape will replace the physical effort of the players on the field. A little air from the ball really made the whooping the Pats laid on the Colts? Seriously? Additionally, that questionable play against the Ravens a few years ago in the playoffs was not breaking any rule.
His eyes watering like he's about to cry at any second. Altuve is a nice guy who was peer pressured by his friends to cheat. It's too bad but he needs a lifetime ban.
@@supreme1572 I suppose they should go back and give all the steroid users the ones who got caught lifetime bans. Which do you think effected games more.
@@rickywilsoniv4414 They haven't even proved he cheated. It would be hard to believe that at some point he wasn't involved. To be honest with you it's an all around ugly situation thats not going away and I think it will be revealed that that type of cheating was wide spread.
Cora is out in Boston and he won’t be rehired ever by any team. He was the one who orchestrated the entire thing. Threatening a ban against him wouldn’t get him to talk, because either way he’ll never be a part of an MLB team again.
Jori two wrongs don’t make a right. Also some former Astros pitchers play for other teams, kind of dumb to peg a former teammate for cheating don’t you think?
What’s just as bad is Astros fans out there walking around laughing and have this smirk on their face thinking everything is alright. What kind of a mindset do you have and what type of person are you? Take a good hard look in the mirror and reevaluate your life and core values, because rest assured you have NONE. Yes, it’s only baseball but have some damn integrity. Shame on the fans, shame on the Astros, and shame on MLB.
I agree! A pre written statement is just another means of shielding them from the reality and ramifications of their actions. Having a PR firm write something up for them is convenient and is even worse!
"What did happen in 2017?" They cheated. "What did happen in 2019?" They cheated. Waiting for someone to expose how a 35+ year old pitcher (and the rest of their staff) improved their spin rate so much. If you think it was only the hitters cheating you're not paying attention.
richard gaines we are about to witness a whole new level of hatred. They can thank MLB for not adding the Dodgers to their away games this season. How many arrests at the first away game?
They cost their manager his job, they cost their general manager his job, they cost their former bench coach his job, they cost their former teammate his job. It's possible that any or all of those guys may never work in MLB again. On top of that, they've embarrassed tens of baseball fans in Houston. But not one of them has expressed the slightest regret or remorse. Plain and simple, they're a bunch of scumbags....
@@MrMatt713 --- Bregman is one of two Main players that other players have suspected of wearing electronics. There was an interview with Bauer (Bowman) of the REDS pitching bullpen and he said he knew of 3 different players (all unconnected with each other from other teams) that had heard that the Astros were wearing electronic devices. Bregman has been suspected by many people as having worn those devices. He seems like the exact type of cocky f__k that would do that. He also has been shown to have had a piece of tape on his chest when his jersey was ripped and a slight bulge up on his shirt higher up. Then if you watched the fan day interview just a few days ago, he was scripted in what he kept repeating as though it was coming right out of his lawyer's mouth. It will eventually all leak out. You can't keep shining flashlights in the eyes of the fans to keep them from seeing the Elephant in the room.
but suspicion of guilt is not equal to guilt. i saw him strike out alot of times.... not to mention he is the type to always watch the first pitch... which if you knew what was coming, why watch. idk. i don't like waiting to know, but i don't want to assume either. if the only proof of guilt is feelings, i consider them innocent until PROVEN
@@MrMatt713 -- that's all and good but there is no trial, right now things are in the court of public opinion. as the slime continues to seep out of the quagmire, more actions will be forthcoming.
@@harpoon_bakery162 thats what i am waiting for. not gonna jump on the hate wagon, but also not claiming that its nothing either. definitely something there, but we will see
@@bobheck7303 So I got the tickets for April 5th for me and my buddy. There were 250 each, first row over the dugout. I just loaded my "Buzzer App" so I'm ready to go.
Sadly the MLB can't punish them. If they tried, the Player's Union would fight it tooth and nail, and the next time the two sides had to come to a new labor agreement, MLB would have to bend over backwards to avoid a strike the union would likely angle for out of spite. While it would be ideal if the union decided the health and fairness of the game trumped protecting these guys, that's not how a union works. You pay your dues, you (supposedly) get protected no matter how badly you screw up or cheat the system. As for those who would argue "What about the players in the union who were cheated by the Astros and/or Red Sox? What about the dues they paid, the union's responsibility to them?", the likely answer is the union expects those players to go "Well, it sucks that these jackasses who cheated the rest of us are being protected, but if I screw up real bad in the future and it's MY turn to be shielded from repercussions by the union i'll be glad they're doing it." and just deal with it. It sucks but it's just how things are. Quid pro quo.
@@irishpanic Opposing pitchers get to aim at the batters mouth during the 1st month. 2nd month, pitcher's get to aim for the rib cage. 3rd month, pitcher's get to aim at the thigh. 4th month, pitchers can aim at the ankles. That way they know what's coming. Enjoy!
Not usually a big Rich Eisen fan; but something about when he talks about cheating...is just very refreshing...very appealing...he plays the role of an upstanding guy with righteous outrage well nicely.
@@Bender2497 its not going to be that easy for the Astros this season. I wouldn't be surprised if they finish 2nd but also wouldn't be surprised if they finish 7th
Kershaw at Dodger Stadium lasted 11 innings with 15k’s and a sub 0.9 ERA!. On Astro’s home turf, he only made it to the 4th inning, 2 k’s with an almost 7 ERA. Their cheating made a HUGE difference. What an absolute disgrace and insult to baseball players who fell victim to it and all us fans.
Paul Cusentino yeah my point was that the only players that will get thrown out or suspended depending on the location of where the batter gets hit will be the pitchers not the players that actually cheated. Its not like they wont throw back at opposing hitters teams as well
@@andy0267 Maybe the beer companies can design the beer can into a lookalike trash can with little lids and thousands of fans who spent millions of dollars can beat on their little 'trash can'. IDK. Enjoy!
Its simple if the MLB won't take away there title away or banned Jose Altuve or Alex Bregmen from MLB every one should get together so it could happen or have the MLB commissioner fired.
Hit up the Yankees front office as well, and any other team who benefited from cheating via sign stealing, steroids etc. Start with one you have to go back and fix all the wrong.
The punishment was disrespectful to all fans. I actually stoped attending games last season because the umpires were also helping the Astros on game 4 and 5. And now they're covering this cheating scandal as much as they can,definitely not ever going to a game again.
All national sports are fixed… it's only a matter of watching games for research as oppose to just watching them. It's all about money when it comes down to it.
@Chad Miyamoto watch game 4 and 5 of the world series against the Dodgers and see how the calls on the strike zone were highly inconsistent. You have to actually watch pitch by pitch not just the celebration!
@Chad Miyamoto keep telling yourself that… 1919 black sox scandal was just scraping the surface. In time you'll see every few years there is some huge story about cheating or a conspiracy to cheat. None of this happens by chance. Just on the Astros alone… think of how much money they and MLB made between 2017 till now on merchandise Bookees make a killing on sports games also. Not by chance but scripted.
Tone deaf ownership and PR people for the Astros. Just so sickening. My sons (13 and 10) loved them. Now they totally reject them as humans not just players. A simply apology goes a long way.
@@mikepence8476 what do cheating players care about management? I'm guessing not a whole lot. The players cheated, some more than others, and literally got no punishment. Steroid junkies got punishments that were certainly too light, but at least they got something!
The real problem is that the commissioner’s report leaves a lot of unanswered questions. For instance: How many times was the cheating attempted and how many times was it successful and how many times did it backfire because the opposing team got wise? Were the tactics employed throughout the 2017 playoffs AND World Series? What about in the following seasons? Were the Astros able to employ the system on the road when the home team obliged and gave them the live feed? Who, besides Carlos Beltran, was involved? Did any players object? Before the team is going to apologize, the commissioner needs to flush out the details. Until he does, the players would be out of their minds to confess. And Altuve is right. In time we’ll all be laughing. After all, while the steroid era ruined potential HOF careers, fans pretty much moved on. This too shall past and that’s when it would be most prudent for Altuve to address the controversy.
This should spark a conversation of how powerful the MLBPA is. This is ridiculous, three managers and a GM have been fired and these players walk around like they’re completely clean, it’s pathetic and a slap in the face to baseball fans everywhere. Thank you Rich for speaking up and calling out the mind blowing actions of the players.
So true Rich. I live in Houston, I am 62 years old and have been waiting all these years for the Astros to finally win it all. They do in 2017 and then we find out they cheated. Bear in mind MLB allowed the technology to be used, i.e. the camera in center field and the monitor behind the dugout. What did they expect would happen? I am disgusted, disappointed and feel betrayed. They are talented enough to play and win or lose on the abilities, not on a sophisticated system one would think that would be used in a WW II prison camp breakout scenario. Only way to start to “ fix” this is to win it all in 2020. We will see.
This right here is spot on. Thank you Rich Eisen. You can definitely here the anger and passion that this conveys to all baseball fans. As far as Spring training, one of these players will contradict something and it's all a matter of time til it all unfolds. Maybe not now but maybe a year or two, when that one player that loses his arbitration case and has a bad taste in his mouth of the owner and organization, he'll be the one to go under oath and let the world know what really went down.
okrajoe if the mlb punished players than mlbpa will get involved and it will be length battle which I think will not worth it for mlb and some players are in different teams and then the new teams will suffer
@@dharitpatel9739 The MLB needs to come up with something. Hinch and Luhnow, while culpable, were not the ringleaders of this scandal. They're punished just because they don't have an association protecting them. The players are the ones that carry the most blame. The ultimate punishment that will impact current and former players, and not penalize other teams where players have moved on to, is to strip their title. Guys like Verlander and Altuve and Bregman can't call themselves champions anymore. Dallas Kuechel, now on the White Sox, can't call himself a champion anymore. The Astros would still be searching for their first World Series.
@@pomerlain8924 I completely agree with you and i also think their title should be striped. I just don't know if MLB will do it, and I also don't know if there is a rule that is preventing them to do it.
I fully thought Rich's statement would have been full of snark and sarcasm, but it was actually an incredibly well-crafted statement. EXACTLY the type of thing that should have been said. (This is coming from someone who has worked in public information for almost a quarter century, too.)
In my heart, these players involved in electronic buzzer cheating should be punished. The metal trash can banging should have brought this cheating issue to light much sooner. Have you ever seen inside a dugout? It’s a mess! The players throw everything right on the ground not even using a trash can. The metal trash can is just a prop for their use for cheating. Altuve, for one, is despicable. You can see it in his eyes. I lay awake at night thinking, Is Altuve sleeping soundly or is he ashamed inside at what he & others did to taint the great American pastime?
Watching another Eisen video led me back to all this and I am so angry that the Astros got away with this. They CHEATED and MLB was like, "sorry boutcha!" I remember Dusty Baker chiding the fans for booing them in 21, saying the Astros had "paid" for their mistakes. No, they did not!
As an Astros fan all my life, I don't know how I feel. So many mixed emotions. I need to hear more than this! Its like the biggest high, and the lowest of low.
I'd love to hear Rich's take on the possibility of the 'garbage being hit with a bat' actually being sound through the stadium-speakers (similar to the Falcons creating crowd-noise).
Are there people still out there that don't know that baseball has always had cheating? You don't have to condone something for it to exist. It does. And the championship has already been won. Any grande gesture to remove the title is meaningless. Just stop the madness. Baseball has always only had one real rule: don't bet on the game. That's it.
@@AmericasChoice I'm with you, man. Altuve should need dentures after Opening Day, and should get re-dentured every few weeks. Let him laugh that off. I hope some flame-throwing pitcher names his new four-seamer The Buzzer. "Wear this under your shirt, Jose!!"
The Astros and Red Sox should both be stripped of their trophies. And players should be BANNED for their involvement with this scandal. This is so outrageous. What an absolute disgrace
I am a Astros fan . Still am . I see a guy with the Dodgers Yankees or Red Sox hat on I want to apologize to him I'm completely f****** embarrassed by my team
Astros fan here... excellent statement. However, I won't take an apology, even a well written one like that. It's not like it will be believed anyhow. I'd rather see actions.
That is a much better statement than the nonsense those guys were spouting. A statement like that will NEVER be released by any of those players but it would be in their best interests to do so.
Not even a slap on the wrist for any of the players. Disgraceful.
The Players Union should be ashamed... why are they protecting Crooks...
david fry, sometimes you’ve gotta protect the players from the players just to keep the confidence of the players...
Too much? Yeah, that feels like too much.
What are they gonna do suspend every single player involved in this...players that not on stros too? Ya no that's dumb
This is just so disappointing.... the Astros were such a great story.... and now... this will taint them for the rest of their careers.... maybe Patrick Reed should join the team.....
Players Union has their backs no matter. Sad really
These guys should MAN up, apologise & explain. I have lost even more respect based on these answers from these two and the Astros. Thank you Rich Eisen you for talking about these two crazy responses. Blows my mind that they can respond like this... MLB needs to go after these guys, if for anything, for the integrity of the game.
why should they apologize? they're certainly not sorry.
@@driver8M3 Take some sort of accountability, might be the better term.
It shouldn't blow your mind. They basically pleaded the 5th which if you've done something wrong is the smart thing to do. Altuve or Bregman don't want to be the next banned for life after Pete Rose.
Why? Because right now the only possible way for an outcome (banned for life) is for proof. The proof would be someone blowing the whistle, or them admitting it. So the only way for them at the moment, is to deny. Once proof comes out and they've been proven guilty, is when they would apologize and explain.
Seriously. It is an absolute joke that players are not being held accountable.
Limp wristed commissioner said it was player driven, yet no players are punished. This won't be over until their title is taken away. They benefitted from cheating, it's proven, end of discussion. Their responses or lack thereof makes me sick
Yes player driven across the league
Versatil Titan proof?
players were given immunity so they could step forward in the investigation
Statistically they didn’t benefit it shows when you compare 2017 home to away games and the team hits better away so their benefit is debatable
@@IronAvenger2k05 Still a sad excuse for doing it. The same excuse for using a corked bat. "No noticable difference!" Then why repeat in 2019 what did not work in 2017?
I don't like it. They need to address a hell lot more.
True
chaosawaits
Understatement!
chaosawaits they’re so unprofessional
They need to give back the rings, the banner, Altuve's MVP, suspend anyone and everyone on the 2017 Roster for a season ...Cora and Hinch as well as the GM should be banned. And if it turns out that Boston did it in 2018... same deal.
Way Worse than anything Pete Rose ever did.
You're so brave Dave.
Lets make them not eat while were at it huh
@@_gabe_2407 They got plenty to eat.. fat off bonuses and recognition, damaging young pitchers, wrecking others legacies...etc etc.
Its ill gotten, tainted, and they should be forced to give it all back and pay a severe penalty so it serves as warning and never happens again. No Mercy.
your so Neeley Mike
Brave Dave should the Yankees be banned too they cheated as well?
How long before that trash can appears on Pawn Stars?
a week
A. L. Smith Lol, maybe they should all sign it, then put it on EBay?
Rick: "let me call up my buddy. He's an expert on trash cans used in stealing signs schemes"
Oh this one wins. Corey not sure, brings in Rick and he lowballs as usual. Or 30 years from now the kids of the American Pickers find the trash can and gush over the Americana when they find it in the garage of some dude that looks slightly like Jeff Lunouw who now lives in the backwoods of Missouri and is toothless and has a two foot beard.
🤣🤣
Every road game they play should be greeted by chants of “cheaters”. Every single road game. And they should be greeted by that chant at home by fans of the game.
Followed up by two bangs to a trash can and a buzz, buzz.
It might just motivate them. They are defiant now like a wrestling villain.
@@CelestialWoodway They will become the baseball version of the Patriots in that they will only be motivated by people hating them for cheating. LOL!
Astros fans should boycott the team like I have
@New Age Scam Artist nice name. can tell you are an astros fan. lol. clown.
They have no shame, the Astros are a disgrace to professional baseball.
They should be stripped of the championship.
There are petitions online for the mlb to take further action.
Hell yea
Na
HELL YES!
dont think so
I say let the championship stand, but ban any of the cheating players for life... players who were complicit should be fined and get 1/2 year suspensions.
MLB let the players off the hook thinking this story was going to quickly disappear. Well, it's not. As a matter of fact more stuff has come out since the suspensions were announced. It's a huge mess. Players need to be suspended.
Vacate.
Vacate or be forever drilled. I hope the Yankees and Dodgers and A's bean every one of them relentlessly, they prospered from cheating, end of discussion
Nothing else came out though just a fake tweet....
@@drinix Classy.
@@drinix I hope "vacate" becomes a chant wherever they play next season.
"I want to congratulate the Nationals for their World Series win. They won it fair and square", said no Astro ever.
Did you notice how Altuve came awfully close to saying just that? That's where his words suddenly failed him. A near-Freudian slip.
Ricks Americana Altuve kinda said that in his full response
He said they deserved it.
Did they win it fair and square??
Are you saying the Astros know something about the Nationals?
The league essentially said you can buy a World Series for $5M
Connor Richardson Right!! Haha why wouldn’t you cheat if that’s the harshest penalty. They maid boatloads of money during the World Series.
J J the crazy thing is you make an estimated 50 million in revenue when you win the World Series, so the Astros basically got paid for it all
They took away 4 draft picks if you don’t think that’s a big punishment y’all are just stupid
@@IronAvenger2k05 If anything they save money from not having to give signing bonuses to 1st/2nd RD picks. There's also like 40 other rounds to pick, so it's not as important as the NFL where you only have 7 rounds.
I have lost all respect for the Astros and the Major League front office..
It’s a disgrace and I don’t think I want to watch a sport that cheaters win..
too much other stuff to do than piss time and money away paying attention to baseball..
You can see it in altuve eyes, and face he is guilty
Where is big mouth Verlander ?
He always has something to say about everything
Silent about he and his team's cheating
Watch him retire
Nobody said anything about pitchers cheating. Verlander didn't do anything wrong. He deserves better than this. I hope he demands a trade out of this mess
@@irishpanic he most likely knew and didn't say anything bro. That's the point. That's why the manager was fired.
The Irishpanic Like Verlander and all the other pitchers didn’t know about it and didn’t benefit from it?? Come on!!!!
@@chandlerwhite8302 to me it seemed like they didn't want Verlander to know they were cheating. I always wondered why Verlander didn't get the run support that other starters got during the 17 season. I mean Verlander didn't get there until what? August of that year? I'm just saying it's possible
Even when a cheating husband is caught, he says "I'm sorry" even when he doesn't mean it. Astros, nothing.
those asstros have no shame, no remorse, no apologies. Disgraceful to their fans and MLB, what a disappointment in that organization.
I hope opposing pitchers throw at Altuves head every single at bat next season.
B Pino i can’t wait until opening season when that team gets boo’d every time they take to the field.
I never said I was sorry! Lol
Crane never said it, either. Arrogance! Kids these days don't say "i'm sorry." They say "my bad". Crane said "Sorry, not sorry."
Wow.. flawless statement, Mr. Eisen.
The Astros need to be stripped of their World Series title and Rob “I’m a wimp” Manfred needs to be replaced as commissioner.
Fans should boycott baseball games until Manfred resigns or gets fired.
Give back the Rings Give back The Trophy Give back the Money you stole them ALL THIEVES 😡😡😡
Sadly, they need to pull the titles from both teams in 2017 and 2018.
That'll never happen though. The player's union will never allow it & MLB is terrified of the player's union.
Red Sox found innocent if you mean 2018
And strip Houston of their 2019 A.L. Pennant as well.
Daunte1984 lmfao... found innocent, that’s rich
The investigation into the '18 Sox isn't complete yet & the '19 Astros were found to be "innocent" so can't punish
Houston Asterisks, you have a problem.
No you have a problem cuz the Astros are going back to the world series 🤘
(Rolls eyes)
Versatil Titan
Hell yuh 🤘🏼, put all this shi* to bed
@@versatiletitan2466 cheaters can't change
Versatil Titan your team concocted the worst scandal the sport has seen since the 1919 Black Sox. It’s not a witch hunt, and they’re not pariahs. They’re a bunch of self serving, cheating boneheads who are getting exactly what they deserve
What a joke, Altuve went from being my favorite player to a pathetic cheater! What a disgrace to baseball and all the young fans that's inspire to be like them. The Astros organization has no class and the players are living proof. Where is the remorse, shame and respect? Their arrogance is infuriating me.
That’s life, what can be done about it
Same. Altuve was my fav non-white sox player since Ichiro. Sad really
As a Dodgers fan I always had a lot of respect for Altuve, the smallest guy in the league was also one of the game’s best hitters. This scandal makes you rethink a lot of what you think about him and also his ability. Fair or not, his legacy is on the line for most fans in the near future.
@@laconfidential8504 💯!
will post here my comment from another video:
"I would start getting used to eating 90mph fastballs to the ribs and wont be just at yanks and dodgers stadiums, trust me on that"
Don't forget Oakland! We are not happy about winning 97 games two years running without cheating and getting nowhere in the playoffs. I hope they all get drilled relentlessly
nah they all cheated too
Ya, I’m sure the yanks and dodgers are innocent choirboys
Juanx Link fastball in the ribs for most guys is still over Altuve’s head 😂
Chapman is drillin’ Altuve....
Bill Belichick: “ amateurs”
King of the Cheaters.
Haha! "The Houston Belichicks"!
🙌🏽🙌🏽
Your comment would be clever if there was any proof of truth behind it. However it's no way comparable. The Astros cheated in a facet of the game that actually affects the outcome - player performance.
Argue until you're blue in the face, but no amount of videotape will replace the physical effort of the players on the field. A little air from the ball really made the whooping the Pats laid on the Colts? Seriously? Additionally, that questionable play against the Ravens a few years ago in the playoffs was not breaking any rule.
@@brianlohse6801 king? More like the empire.
Holy toledo.... Altuve's face just screams "I'M LYING!!"
No it doesn't he struggles with his English.
His eyes watering like he's about to cry at any second. Altuve is a nice guy who was peer pressured by his friends to cheat. It's too bad but he needs a lifetime ban.
@@supreme1572 I suppose they should go back and give all the steroid users the ones who got caught lifetime bans. Which do you think effected games more.
brian Lohse typical, always deflection. We’re talking about Altuve and cheating not steroids
@@rickywilsoniv4414 They haven't even proved he cheated. It would be hard to believe that at some point he wasn't involved. To be honest with you it's an all around ugly situation thats not going away and I think it will be revealed that that type of cheating was wide spread.
The whole team should’ve been suspended for a year and World Series title revoked
Jimoke so inadvertently punish other teams in the league that signed those players? Smart piss off the other teams.
Ultimate Paine The team. Meaning the Astros don’t have a 2020 season.
Jimoke how so?
So should have Pats...Tom..Bill, and all those cheaters...
Craig Conley then the same should have been for the Saints entire defense.
Tell Cora he is banned forever from baseball if he doesn't give the names of active players. Win win situation.
Cora is out in Boston and he won’t be rehired ever by any team. He was the one who orchestrated the entire thing. Threatening a ban against him wouldn’t get him to talk, because either way he’ll never be a part of an MLB team again.
"Kids were lining up to take pictures with the trash can... It's a PR nightmare! Get rid of the trash can!" 👏😂😭😂👌
Wejholla Johanus no wayyyy lol
Lets you know what their own fans believe that they cheated!
Wejholla Johanus 😂😂😂😂
“Get rid of the trash can! C’mon, it’s PR101! “
😂😂😂
Their fans seem proud of it
Altuve and Bregman need to go Happy Gilmour in the batting cage to get ready for this upcoming season.
LN.Marls classless if any pitcher does that.
Ultimate Paine Why? They cheated.
Jori two wrongs don’t make a right. Also some former Astros pitchers play for other teams, kind of dumb to peg a former teammate for cheating don’t you think?
Ultimate Paine if you think they’re not going to get thrown at, and/or feel they don’t deserve to be thrown at you’re trippin’
LN.Marls good one “ ouch that one hurt “ 😬🇺🇸⚓️
What’s just as bad is Astros fans out there walking around laughing and have this smirk on their face thinking everything is alright. What kind of a mindset do you have and what type of person are you? Take a good hard look in the mirror and reevaluate your life and core values, because rest assured you have NONE. Yes, it’s only baseball but have some damn integrity. Shame on the fans, shame on the Astros, and shame on MLB.
Seriously can't state this enough.
Reevaluate life and core values? Wtf are you on about?
Whoa there sparky. It’s just baseball. Settle down with the “core values” talk. Ha ha
@@TV-ob1if you don't get it dummy!
@@commentsforcomments3018 JERK!
Also this whole "this will be our one and only statement" is just dumb. Man up and answer the fekkin questions, no matter where and when.
They probably cannot legally answer it.
CelestialWoodway
Lol WRONG!
I agree! A pre written statement is just another means of shielding them from the reality and ramifications of their actions. Having a PR firm write something up for them is convenient and is even worse!
For real
Every player/coach/advisor on that team from 2017-2019 should be banned.
They're like politicians, if you're afraid of the question, just don't answer it.
"What did happen in 2017?"
They cheated.
"What did happen in 2019?"
They cheated.
Waiting for someone to expose how a 35+ year old pitcher (and the rest of their staff) improved their spin rate so much. If you think it was only the hitters cheating you're not paying attention.
There is no evidence to support that. It's just an accusation. Strom is actually a good pitching coach
Ask punk @ss mike fiers using pine tar
Oh the road games this season are going to be BRUTAL!!
oh you think ??
richard gaines we are about to witness a whole new level of hatred. They can thank MLB for not adding the Dodgers to their away games this season. How many arrests at the first away game?
They cost their manager his job, they cost their general manager his job, they cost their former bench coach his job, they cost their former teammate his job. It's possible that any or all of those guys may never work in MLB again. On top of that, they've embarrassed tens of baseball fans in Houston. But not one of them has expressed the slightest regret or remorse. Plain and simple, they're a bunch of scumbags....
Tens of houston fans haha. Going by the comments online, I'd say that's fairly accurate.
The Astros Must’ve took Eddie Guerrero’s “lie cheat and steal” line too seriously
Wasn't that the CIA and Mike Pompeo?
This is what happens when no significant punishment to the players is handed out
Anthony Lepore other teams signed some of those players, what did they do??
Imagine the road games this Year Holy shieeetttt. 😬😬😬
Come on Rich, that's generic, cold, and insincere! Let them come out and vacate the title and the MVP.
Bregman is the biggest cheat of them all. I didn't know that the Astros had released that report.
can someone explain to me what Bregman did?? Altuve has been implicated, but Bregman is just wrapped up in the story somehow.... i don't get it
@@MrMatt713 --- Bregman is one of two Main players that other players have suspected of wearing electronics. There was an interview with Bauer (Bowman) of the REDS pitching bullpen and he said he knew of 3 different players (all unconnected with each other from other teams) that had heard that the Astros were wearing electronic devices. Bregman has been suspected by many people as having worn those devices. He seems like the exact type of cocky f__k that would do that. He also has been shown to have had a piece of tape on his chest when his jersey was ripped and a slight bulge up on his shirt higher up. Then if you watched the fan day interview just a few days ago, he was scripted in what he kept repeating as though it was coming right out of his lawyer's mouth. It will eventually all leak out. You can't keep shining flashlights in the eyes of the fans to keep them from seeing the Elephant in the room.
but suspicion of guilt is not equal to guilt. i saw him strike out alot of times.... not to mention he is the type to always watch the first pitch... which if you knew what was coming, why watch. idk. i don't like waiting to know, but i don't want to assume either. if the only proof of guilt is feelings, i consider them innocent until PROVEN
@@MrMatt713 -- that's all and good but there is no trial, right now things are in the court of public opinion. as the slime continues to seep out of the quagmire, more actions will be forthcoming.
@@harpoon_bakery162 thats what i am waiting for. not gonna jump on the hate wagon, but also not claiming that its nothing either. definitely something there, but we will see
Well said, Mr Eisen. The absurdity continues.
just wait when Astros visit Anaheim on opening day. its gonna be Full of Dodger Fans. Guarantee you, thier will stuff thrown at them.
Good!
I'll be there right over the visiting dugout. I will be relentless from beginning to end. it will be a miracle if they don't kick me out.
@@deweyoxburger2963 Have some back-up. No fun without heckling and BOOING! Especially from a good seat!
That will be one way to get a sell out.
@@bobheck7303 So I got the tickets for April 5th for me and my buddy. There were 250 each, first row over the dugout. I just loaded my "Buzzer App" so I'm ready to go.
I would have so much more respect for the MLB if they just punish these player's, they think they untouchable.
Sadly the MLB can't punish them. If they tried, the Player's Union would fight it tooth and nail, and the next time the two sides had to come to a new labor agreement, MLB would have to bend over backwards to avoid a strike the union would likely angle for out of spite.
While it would be ideal if the union decided the health and fairness of the game trumped protecting these guys, that's not how a union works. You pay your dues, you (supposedly) get protected no matter how badly you screw up or cheat the system.
As for those who would argue "What about the players in the union who were cheated by the Astros and/or Red Sox? What about the dues they paid, the union's responsibility to them?", the likely answer is the union expects those players to go "Well, it sucks that these jackasses who cheated the rest of us are being protected, but if I screw up real bad in the future and it's MY turn to be shielded from repercussions by the union i'll be glad they're doing it." and just deal with it.
It sucks but it's just how things are. Quid pro quo.
As part of their punishment they should only be allowed to throw one pitch a month.
April - Fast Ball.
May - Curve Ball.
And so on!
Why punish the pitchers? Just suspend the cheating players and be done with it
@@irishpanic
Opposing pitchers get to aim at the batters mouth during the 1st month.
2nd month, pitcher's get to aim for the rib cage.
3rd month, pitcher's get to aim at the thigh.
4th month, pitchers can aim at the ankles.
That way they know what's coming. Enjoy!
@@briankoski2532 that's just dumb. They cheated, they didn't injure anyone
@@irishpanic
Payback's a Bitch. Thanks.
vacate the title.
Kevin Newsom 💯
Kevin Newsom And take down the banners at the stadium. No more hats, shirts, or other Championship memorabilia allowed to be sold.
@@chandlerwhite8302 Amen. I'm a Houstonian and support that 100%. These guys are an embarrassment. Fake heroes!
Never liked Bergman’s shiteatingrin. At least this makes him red-faced.
Not usually a big Rich Eisen fan; but something about when he talks about cheating...is just very refreshing...very appealing...he plays the role of an upstanding guy with righteous outrage well nicely.
Altuve going to hit .245 next season. Get exposed
Wilbert Arenas He’ll hit over 300.
@@crazyhorsejohnny1974 Bang,Bang,ZzzzzZzzzz.
He will still hit for a good average. Just nobody will care anymore
Nah, Stros will come in 2nd to Yankees in the AL because NY now has Cole. That's the only reason.
@@Bender2497 its not going to be that easy for the Astros this season. I wouldn't be surprised if they finish 2nd but also wouldn't be surprised if they finish 7th
Kershaw at Dodger Stadium lasted 11 innings with 15k’s and a sub 0.9 ERA!. On Astro’s home turf, he only made it to the 4th inning, 2 k’s with an almost 7 ERA.
Their cheating made a HUGE difference. What an absolute disgrace and insult to baseball players who fell victim to it and all us fans.
I hope the Astros lead the league in hit by pitch.
Why the only result of that will be the pitchers suspended not the players standing at the plate that cheated.
@@jroc1358 line up now of pitchers in minors who'd love a call up for that assignment
@@jroc1358 It's really not fun to get hit by a pitch, that's why.
Paul Cusentino yeah my point was that the only players that will get thrown out or suspended depending on the location of where the batter gets hit will be the pitchers not the players that actually cheated. Its not like they wont throw back at opposing hitters teams as well
So.. fan trashcan banging will be a thing in every park the Astros visit this year.... right?
Like the tomahawk chop.
Along with renditions of the "CHEA-TERS" chant and the "ASS-HOLES" chant
Maybe they'll be selling mini trash cans all over so fans can throw them on the field.
@@andy0267
Maybe the beer companies can design the beer can into a lookalike trash can with little lids and thousands of fans who spent millions of dollars can beat on their little 'trash can'. IDK. Enjoy!
They don't want to say anything about 2019 because they know they cheated in 2019 too.
Wrong
@@versatiletitan2466 not wrong
4'5" 120lb Altuve went from never hitting more than 24 hrs on a season to 40, plus blasting game winners in playoffs. Suspicious.
Love this!!! You’re so spot on!!
Its simple if the MLB won't take away there title away or banned Jose Altuve or Alex Bregmen from MLB every one should get together so it could happen or have the MLB commissioner fired.
Dudes really acted like it was all good and sweat, knowing dam well they a disgrace along with the redsox
@David Rodriguez yeah, you need to look into it a little more.
Salute Rich Eisen this is the energy I wanna see.
They need to turn in the 💍 and 🏆
YOUR JUST SAYING “IF YOU CHEAT AND WIN IT ALL ITS OK.... AS LONG AS YOU APOLOGIZE” 😂
Tell that to fiers
Hit up the Yankees front office as well, and any other team who benefited from cheating via sign stealing, steroids etc. Start with one you have to go back and fix all the wrong.
He s the most hall of fame eligible probably doesn’t wanna ruin his Chances
Ruben Cruz
Exactly
Pete Rose should be able to return, if these guys arent banned for life.....Can't have it both ways.
As an Astros fan I no longer support this team. I won't go to another game until all these cheaters are off my team. This is embarrassing
“GET RID OF THE TRASHCAN!!!” 😂
The punishment was disrespectful to all fans. I actually stoped attending games last season because the umpires were also helping the Astros on game 4 and 5. And now they're covering this cheating scandal as much as they can,definitely not ever going to a game again.
All national sports are fixed… it's only a matter of watching games for research as oppose to just watching them. It's all about money when it comes down to it.
@Chad Miyamoto 🤣😂🤫
@Chad Miyamoto watch game 4 and 5 of the world series against the Dodgers and see how the calls on the strike zone were highly inconsistent. You have to actually watch pitch by pitch not just the celebration!
@Chad Miyamoto keep telling yourself that… 1919 black sox scandal was just scraping the surface. In time you'll see every few years there is some huge story about cheating or a conspiracy to cheat. None of this happens by chance. Just on the Astros alone… think of how much money they and MLB made between 2017 till now on merchandise Bookees make a killing on sports games also. Not by chance but scripted.
The Astros owner seems to be under the illusion that it's over and done ? That firing Hinch and GM erases everything??? Clueless?????
Yeah, over the next 5 years he'll probably lose a potential $100 million in revenue. IDK.
He needs to hire a professional PR team. That's for sure!
Tone deaf ownership and PR people for
the Astros. Just so sickening. My sons (13 and 10) loved them. Now they totally reject them as humans not just players. A simply apology goes a long way.
Selfies with the trashcan LOL
🤘🏼
This is an absolutely terrific segment by RE.🔥🔥🔥
Cheating wins championships - this will be the message and precedent from now on
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Don't think so. People in management positions can't risk getting caught with this because their career in the MLB will be over
@@mikepence8476 what do cheating players care about management? I'm guessing not a whole lot. The players cheated, some more than others, and literally got no punishment. Steroid junkies got punishments that were certainly too light, but at least they got something!
The real problem is that the commissioner’s report leaves a lot of unanswered questions. For instance:
How many times was the cheating attempted and how many times was it successful and how many times did it backfire because the opposing team got wise?
Were the tactics employed throughout the 2017 playoffs AND World Series?
What about in the following seasons?
Were the Astros able to employ the system on the road when the home team obliged and gave them the live feed?
Who, besides Carlos Beltran, was involved?
Did any players object?
Before the team is going to apologize, the commissioner needs to flush out the details. Until he does, the players would be out of their minds to confess.
And Altuve is right. In time we’ll all be laughing. After all, while the steroid era ruined potential HOF careers, fans pretty much moved on. This too shall past and that’s when it would be most prudent for Altuve to address the controversy.
Rich as a Gangster 😂😂😂 Love it
Yup, at 4:30 I dig it!..
This should spark a conversation of how powerful the MLBPA is. This is ridiculous, three managers and a GM have been fired and these players walk around like they’re completely clean, it’s pathetic and a slap in the face to baseball fans everywhere. Thank you Rich for speaking up and calling out the mind blowing actions of the players.
Hell hath no fury like a Yankee fan scorned - get after it, Rich! 👍🏽
Hell hath no fury like a spoiled rotten Yankees fan.
@@cajunboi4888 lol... and exactly why are they spoiled??
Yankees fans are lowlife scum. No room to take the high road.
AMAZING SEGMENT!!!! SPOT ON!
Bro not only did they cheat, they all became rats as well to save themselves.
Pats did the same thing. I did not no balls were not legal.......
So true Rich. I live in Houston, I am 62 years old and have been waiting all these years for the Astros to finally win it all. They do in 2017 and then we find out they cheated. Bear in mind MLB allowed the technology to be used, i.e. the camera in center field and the monitor behind the dugout. What did they expect would happen? I am disgusted, disappointed and feel betrayed. They are talented enough to play and win or lose on the abilities, not on a sophisticated system one would think that would be used in a WW II prison camp breakout scenario. Only way to start to “ fix” this is to win it all in 2020. We will see.
Yankees 2020.
It is the lowest of the low for the astros if they did, to use buzzers I mean it's unreal.... Fire and void the wins.
This right here is spot on. Thank you Rich Eisen. You can definitely here the anger and passion that this conveys to all baseball fans. As far as Spring training, one of these players will contradict something and it's all a matter of time til it all unfolds. Maybe not now but maybe a year or two, when that one player that loses his arbitration case and has a bad taste in his mouth of the owner and organization, he'll be the one to go under oath and let the world know what really went down.
No player was punished - the players all got away scot-free.
okrajoe if the mlb punished players than mlbpa will get involved and it will be length battle which I think will not worth it for mlb and some players are in different teams and then the new teams will suffer
@@dharitpatel9739 The MLB needs to come up with something. Hinch and Luhnow, while culpable, were not the ringleaders of this scandal. They're punished just because they don't have an association protecting them. The players are the ones that carry the most blame. The ultimate punishment that will impact current and former players, and not penalize other teams where players have moved on to, is to strip their title. Guys like Verlander and Altuve and Bregman can't call themselves champions anymore. Dallas Kuechel, now on the White Sox, can't call himself a champion anymore. The Astros would still be searching for their first World Series.
@@pomerlain8924 I completely agree with you and i also think their title should be striped. I just don't know if MLB will do it, and I also don't know if there is a rule that is preventing them to do it.
I fully thought Rich's statement would have been full of snark and sarcasm, but it was actually an incredibly well-crafted statement. EXACTLY the type of thing that should have been said. (This is coming from someone who has worked in public information for almost a quarter century, too.)
Once again I must ask if such a device exists why did only 2 players have them?
Why would Altuve focus so hard on not having his jersey torn off?
Dude you can’t even defend it. Altuve got caught with his pants down. He’s as guilty as could be
How many stores in Houston sell buzzer type equipment? Could this equipment's bill be i name ofHouston Astro's?
They're gonna get plunked all year long
In my heart, these players
involved in electronic buzzer
cheating should be punished.
The metal trash can banging
should have brought this
cheating issue to light much
sooner. Have you ever seen
inside a dugout? It’s a mess!
The players throw everything
right on the ground not even
using a trash can. The metal
trash can is just a prop for
their use for cheating.
Altuve, for one, is despicable.
You can see it in his eyes.
I lay awake at night thinking,
Is Altuve sleeping soundly or
is he ashamed inside at what
he & others did to taint the
great American pastime?
Bergman is very easy to dislike.
100000000000000%%%!!!!!!
Watching another Eisen video led me back to all this and I am so angry that the Astros got away with this. They CHEATED and MLB was like, "sorry boutcha!" I remember Dusty Baker chiding the fans for booing them in 21, saying the Astros had "paid" for their mistakes. No, they did not!
Can we Bring trash cans to the stadiums ?? 🙃
David Gomez We will have to check with the stadium rules. Tiny aluminum trash cans on Amazon. BANG BANG
As an Astros fan all my life, I don't know how I feel. So many mixed emotions. I need to hear more than this! Its like the biggest high, and the lowest of low.
I'm a life long Dodger fan how do you think I feel?
Snitches get HBPs
Jeff G. They’re going to be pelted so much this upcoming season.
LMAO!!! GOOD ONE! Somebodies ribs gonna hurt this year!
Astros have a beast lineup go ahead and put them on base
Which means Mike Fiers gets beaned. "Here comes the rat" What a worm he is.
@@Burnzy1976 He plays for the A's so the chances of him getting beaned are kinda slim.
Damn Rich Eisen PERFECTLY SAID 🤘🏼🔥
Yes.
God bless Rich Eisen!
🙏
I'd love to hear Rich's take on the possibility of the 'garbage being hit with a bat' actually being sound through the stadium-speakers (similar to the Falcons creating crowd-noise).
Just man up guys. That's all the fans are asking.
Yeah crybaby yankee fans
Are there people still out there that don't know that baseball has always had cheating? You don't have to condone something for it to exist. It does. And the championship has already been won. Any grande gesture to remove the title is meaningless. Just stop the madness. Baseball has always only had one real rule: don't bet on the game. That's it.
Can't wait to see Altuve get a fastball to the grille.
Several, hopefully.
@@wolfwilliams Every game!
@@AmericasChoice I'm with you, man. Altuve should need dentures after Opening Day, and should get re-dentured every few weeks. Let him laugh that off.
I hope some flame-throwing pitcher names his new four-seamer The Buzzer. "Wear this under your shirt, Jose!!"
@@wolfwilliams Yeah. LOL. It WILL happen!
The Astros and Red Sox should both be stripped of their trophies. And players should be BANNED for their involvement with this scandal. This is so outrageous. What an absolute disgrace
Public humiliation of the anointed
Here's the question I've been thinking about. Did the pictures and the catcher's know about what's going on also?
Pictures never know anyhing.
@@wsmokr no no no. The picture coach would've known about this.
@@mikeneeley1284 Really??? There is no such thing as picture coach???
Come on, of course they did!!!! Who do you think helped them decode and figure out the others teams signs?
This whole story keeps getting sleazier and sleazier. Houston has become the New England of baseball.
dmomintz Fck outta here this is WAY worse than anything the Pats did lol.
I am a Astros fan . Still am . I see a guy with the Dodgers Yankees or Red Sox hat on I want to apologize to him I'm completely f****** embarrassed by my team
And that’s when Rich Eisen quit his job and become an independent agent for the players. :p
Astros fan here... excellent statement. However, I won't take an apology, even a well written one like that. It's not like it will be believed anyhow. I'd rather see actions.
As a Tiger fan, I feel so bad that Verlander got caught up in this. In Detroit, he proved that he was a good man.
That is a much better statement than the nonsense those guys were spouting. A statement like that will NEVER be released by any of those players but it would be in their best interests to do so.
Lawyers won't allow it.