Ikr, he's royally pissed at the fact that he gets a lifetime ban for gambling on his team, but the players are not punished at all. I'm like this is some bull
I beat ya to the punch, bud. I mentioned on several other Astro-cheating vids, " Some where, Pete Rose is laughing. I think that's better. But its all good. Great minds think alike
Matt Flynn Yes he does. It’s very clear about a lifetime ban for gambling. Gambling on games you’re involved is severely detrimental to the game. If people ever thing games are rigged or fixed the game goes away, and MLB knows it. Even in the Black Sox Scandal days, they knew it then.
Bob Costas is the man . One of the GOATS. Used to love when he would call Bulls playoff games in the 90s. Such a great part of my childhood love of sports lore.
From a sports caster I liked to a person that says " if you don't like the cheating then quit watching " really no integrity there. But remember now we are living in the days that what ever is right is wrong and what ever is wrong is right.
Agreed. Players are as guilty as the managers. Goes to show that MLB, and alike buisnesses have Zero integrity. It's a good thing Beltran was fired, as well, want with being a player in 17.
@Louis Reed MAJOR diff here is teams were issued warnings about cheating PRIOR to 2017 Playoffs - due to $$$ invested in A/V staff, added cameras, in dug-out displays etc due to replay challenge rule changes. This scheme involved multiple levels fr mgmt to players - now cheaters got caught - deal w/ the consequences, spilled milk + all ...
Thank you, Mr Costas, for your thoughtful, interesting and intelligent responses to these critical questions. One time, several years ago, I thought you shot from the hip - and incorrectly too. I was wrong; you were right. I apologize. Your basic decency and integrity allow the rest of us to really breathe. You raise the level of honesty, integrity and professionalism to the field of Journalism. And you are interesting and fun.
@@Grebe90 -Exactly. This isn't close to the game when I was a teenager in the late seventies, and as a young man watching The Dodgers and Big Red Machine.. Now it's just mainly an over analyzed boring greed fest.
I’m glad he brought up the advantage the astros had knowing when not to swing. That’s a huge advantage when pitchers lose their ability to make batters chase pitches.
As what bob costa said their using the camera on the center field to decode the catchers sign... why don't you blame the tv network ... were in the era of high technology everybody's using it.... astros just outsmart their opponent a little bit more...
As a fan of baseball I feel lied to. As a Dodger fan I feel this is the ultimate betrayal. If I was a fan of the teams that won by CHEATING then I would feel ashamed.
Except that if you try to look back at that season, the only conclusion you can draw stats-wise is that the benefits were very marginal. The home vs road numbers tell an interesting story of little-to-no benefits for the offense. Foolish Baseball did a good video on it. It ended up just being a really stupid thing to do rather than offering large benefits.
@Jack D Exactly! Not every owner is like George Steinbrenner or Jerry Jones orAl Davis. A lot, in fact most owners are very hands off when it comes to the day to day operations of playing the game itself. That's what the GM's, managers, and coaches are for. So it's very possible that the owner didn't know.
@@carlosm.6348 You have no idea that he definitely knew. You're speculating. You don't know for sure, and neither do I. I said it's possible he didn't know, and of course it's possible he did, but you don't know he definitely knew.
Absolutely right! But I am afraid that it was more than just the Astros. Alex Cora was managing the Red Sox in 2018 and they won the world series...he was just fired as well. Coincidence?
This wasn't reasonable punishment the Dodgers got snubbed and conveniently lost to the Red Sox the next year to the astros former bench coach the title should be revoked
the red sox beat the piss out of the dodgers and what they did is not the same as the astros nor was it used in the postseason do a little research before you whine
billionaires care about their prestige and honor way more than money. $5 million is pocket change for him but his reputation is forever tarnished which will bother him until he is alive.
@Alta May players will keep their mouth shut but not fans. I can't wait to see if they schedule the assteriks in LA. I'm sure they won't. Assterisks in NY or boston in NY will be ripe with chanting as it should be. This won't be forgotten for a looong time. Especially in LA!
Bob Costas once again proving why he’s still one of the premier sportscasters of our generation. It’s unfortunate that he has to talk about this cheating scandal but he did so eloquently.
Yes. I cannot imagine having the vocabulary and eloquence of verbal execution that allows one to ALWAYS use the correct word and to have the ability to turn a perfect phrase on a dime. No one can explain stuff in such an understanding and engrossing manner as Bob. Not even Julian. I guess Howard Cosell had this too, but his was in an overly ostentatious manner.
Now we find out how intricate it was. They had ekectrnic buzzers on their bodies they were being buzzed to tell them what pitch was coming. That's why they should be banned.
They need to execute the coaches by drawing and quartering, enslave their children and take all their women. Then they need to erase the team's name and ostracize their families for 5 generations.
And strip all the steroid home run users of their stats like Bonds, McGwire, Sosa? The home runs happened the games happened put an asterisk next to the championship but it dam well happened.
We still do not know if Rose changed lineups while coaching the Reds to give his bets an edge with a Reds loss. We only have his word that he bet for the Reds to win. No his ban should remain and someday after he has passed then and only then can his stats and records be entered into the hall of fame.
@@kfgrip "Let Pete in" seems to be the in thing to say now but I'm with you. He was known to have a gambling problem in the 70's . First he lied and said he wasn't betting on baseball, then he said he wasn't betting on Red's games and finally said he never bet on the Red's to lose. Plus, Pete ACCEPTED his lifetime ban so that all the proof against him and what he actually did would be kept from us.
i am a resox fan sine the 60's and they should be punished for there cheeting, waht the astros got was a slap on wriste, that tittle belongs to dodgers .
The Astros fucked with the integrity of the game. Hurt some young pitchers that were sent to the minors never to come back. Screw the Astros they are great didn't need to cheat. They should be banned from the game for life.
That was a great explanation . Every team tries to "steal" the catchers signals , the Astros used the media television camera in center field in the dug out to watch the catcher and relay by banging on a garbage can . High tech to banging on a garbage can . Who knew ?
Kanye West it’s true, a lot of people 30 years old and younger these days have very short attention spans, a slower moving game like baseball most likely makes them nod out in seconds or switch to staring at their phones like zombies for hours on end.
Bob Costas is 100% correct that cheating and stealing the signs is not only meant to unfairly help a batter hit a pitch (by knowing what's coming), but also about not swinging at a pitch. By knowing what's coming, the batter can lay off the pitch, in order to work the count to the batter's advantage (and adds more pressure on the opposing pitcher). But he left out another extremely important factor that unfairly helps. It helps the Astros' base runners. If the base runner also knows that a slower, off-speed pitch, away from the strike zone is coming (like in the dirt) - it means the catcher will will be slower to catch the ball, regain their balance, wind-up their arm, and throw the ball to his infielder. This means the base runner will have a much higher chance of stealing the base on those type of pitches (especially if they know its coming). The runner can take a bigger lead of the base, and take off immediately. Imagine a base runner easily stealing base to get into a scoring positions, or a double steal. This changes the dynamics of the at-bat, the inning, and the pressure on the opposing pitcher. This cheating has a big impact on the game.
@@jeffreyholmes9607 -The difference between Costas, and so many is not only that he is smart as hell,but has always had a strong social conscience. He didn't look the other way on steroids and it hurt his career.
Yup everyone hates the assteriks except the dillusional assterik fans or the people who won a lot of money off their cheating ways... the true baseball fans feel ashamed and embarrassed but not the gamblers who won big nor should they... it's not the gamblers fault... this is all on the HOUSTON organization and their players that knew what was going on!
A great breakdown of the whole mess that most can understand from a man who truly understands the game. I'm 60 and remember watching Costas doing Saturday afternoon baseball games on tv at a 12 year old. He did unfortunately omit a glaring reason for the HEAVY fines...GAMBLING. The vice that makes these teams so valuable and the alleged purity that differentiates the major sports from WWE and XFL nonsense.
I feel bad for L.A., NY fans and Houston fans too. They are now the Houston Asterisks, tainted forever. I hope that the Astros get booed mercilessly on the road in 2020
Didn't the Yankees get caught w the Red Sox using apple watches to steal signs too 🤔 stop crying GaYankee fan 🤣 27 Championships didn't come fair and square 🤣
Big deal! The Dodgers had home field advantage in the world series and the Astros were not using the system on the road. Besides, the Astros pitching is what won them the World Series not the batting. They shutdown the Yankees in the final game of the ALCS. Yankees and Dodgers need to grow up and stop complaining.
@@peterfrknpan6674 if you want integrity in sports go watch little league baseball or pop warner football...professional sports are a business first...what matters is the bottom line--winners get paid losers end up working at the airport--so ya as far as cheating goes...players, managers, head coaches, trainers, owners, leagues and on and on CHEAT...stop being so naive
@Roald Shakleton first I'm not trying to defend the Astros, but lets be honest. the CNN host is obviously trying to make it seem like the Astros had developed some "incredibly intricate system" to cheat. When really they were using the TV in the dugout or tunnel, which every dugout has (bob costas said this himself in the clip) now and is used to help make challenges. I could be wrong about this but i haven't read anything or seen anything (so far) that states the Astros placed secret cameras around the Park. What i have seen is that they were using the center field camera that we see on TV. if they are studying film, its not incredibly hard to figure out signs and match them up to the pitch. Did they cheat? yes. was it sophisticated, intricate, incredibly intricate? naw.
@@dierodri88 True, it is not James Bond level. There is a general clear understanding in MLB that electronics are banned in the dugout to gain an advantage. Managers can not even wear an apple watch. So to have a set up with computers and logging of signs, that has a level of sophistication that other teams would not be ready to deploy. THey will cheat anyway they can, but using computers, tv screens in the dugout to gain an advantage. Not a good look
@@danielkim672 thanks for re-iterating my point. Not sure they had computers in the dug out as that would be overly obvious, but I'm sure computers were involved considering they moved the video room closer to the dugout. Also its not wrong to have film of the other teams signs the issue was that they were using electronics in real time to signal the batters
As a life long Astros fan, this will forever be so depressing. The only thing the Stros can do to even kind of make it up to the fans is by winning a World Series clean
"Banging on a trash can".... Who would have imagined that the human brain was capable of such sophistication. I don't know how the opposition stood a chance.
Maybe. It's a different game. Always associated the Astros with a National League style of play. I know they put them in the American to get synergy with the Rangers. Still it takes some getting used to. The Colt 45s, the Astrodome, etc - all that has NL connotations.
Actually it begin after 2014 when they realize they could use the monitor in the dugout to spy on the catche's hand signal. The monitor was put in there beginning 2014 for the coaches to view the replays to see if they want to challenge the umpire's calls.
Costas is correct...stealing signs has been a part of baseball forever. If you're sucessful at sign sealing, it MIGHT give you an advantage...it's not a sure bet. What's being overlooked here is this: in both the 2017 and 2018 World Series, the Dodgers scored very few runs. Sign stealing had NOTHING to do with the Dodgers poor showing at the plate. Yes, the Astros (and possibly the Red Sox) may have scored some runs due to stealing signs. But is was PITCHING that won both series...the Astros and Red Sox out-pitched the Dodgers in nearly every game. When you keep your opponent from putting runs on the board, you've got a very good shot at winning the game...stealing signs or not. Baseball fans, this is hardly the end of the world... when the first pitch is thrown opening day, most will have already forgotten this over-blown non issue. PLAY BALL!!!
@@Ps7apple In what way are the Pats continuing to cheat? Sounds like you're just another envious fan of some far less successful franchise. To imply that the N.E. Patriots incredible run of success is due to nothing other than cheating is either total ignorance or lying. They were so great for so long because they have the GOAT coach and (had?) the GOAT QB.
I disagree. Who defines what "technology" is? It is immaterial how the signs are unencrypted by the opposing team. The team encrypting needs to evolve their system. Sort of like how the German WWII code was cracked. Watch the movie Imitation Game. The duty to become more sophisticated rests with the team broadcasting their signals. Punishing these teams is wrong.
When it comes to the steroid era, I am reminded of an old poem from that time. "Babe Ruth did it with hotdogs and beer. Hank Aaron did it with class. Barry Bonds went and did it with a needle stuck in his ass."
WWE is fake, sure those guys get injured and they're really falling all over and getting slammed but the a lot of the moves if done by anyone else without knowing how to do it properly would really injure someone seriously.
Why wasn't Jim Crane suspended? He's responsible for the actions of his employees and his team. He forwarded MLB's email to Luhnow and that's it? What about the Astros coaches? Don't tell me they didn't know what was going on, and they all still have their jobs and are employees of the team.
@@pohorex6834 That's impossible considering how instrumental guys like Clemens,big papi and many others were to those championship teams. I'm a mets fan so I also don't have anything of significance at stake. My whole point is that punishing the Astros so severely for something everyone has done is hypocritical. Its ok to steal signs using the naked eye but god forbid you use technology to do it. All MLB had to do was come up with a way to stop the bs and move on. This thing with Houston is overkill at its finest.
Once, my high school baseball manager thought another team figured out our activator signal, so we switched signals. They make phone apps that can figure out baseball signals, maybe instead of playing the blame game we should not keep the same signals for a 162 game season!
Patrick the electronic technology asshat The ability to used cámaras in the outfield. Relay it ELECTRONICALLY to the dugout. Are you really this stupid ?
Bob is right. Deception is part of the game. The Astros messed with that. Teams can watch film, scout each other, figure out habits of other players, etc. When you use a system of technology that gives you an advantage and is flat out against the rules, it changes the present moment and the course of the game. This is worse than using steroids or supplement drugs. Steroids were always used in other sports besides baseball. If you're going to be critical of players who used steroids and be stubborn about them getting into the HOF, then you should be harsh with the Astros or Red Sox even in the same way. I think the Astros organization should suffer worse than a couple fines and short suspensions. They should vacate their 2017 World Series and give them a post season ban of AT LEAST one year. Then maybe these teams will think again before they try to cheat. The NCAA isn't afraid to vacate anything like Michigan's Fab Five achievements, Louisville's 2013 championship, or USC's 2004 championship. But of course the MLB is afraid of losing out on money so they always pretend like they don't know how to appropriately penalize cheaters.
And now Pete Rose is sitting somewhere saying “Really?”
Stole my line Mark!
Pete Rose gets a lifetime ban for betting on his own team to win! WTF
Ikr, he's royally pissed at the fact that he gets a lifetime ban for gambling on his team, but the players are not punished at all. I'm like this is some bull
I beat ya to the punch, bud. I mentioned on several other Astro-cheating vids, " Some where, Pete Rose is laughing. I think that's better. But its all good. Great minds think alike
Matt Flynn Yes he does. It’s very clear about a lifetime ban for gambling. Gambling on games you’re involved is severely detrimental to the game. If people ever thing games are rigged or fixed the game goes away, and MLB knows it. Even in the Black Sox Scandal days, they knew it then.
Pete deserves his lifetime ban. I don’t understand why Pete is even relevant with this scandal, it’s two different infractions. It’s not the same.
Host: “In 15 seconds tell us what stealing signs means”
Bob Costas: “No thank you”
🤣🤣🤣🤣. He must have thought he said do your best in 15 minutes haha. Costas is the man though. IMO
Josh it would be impossible to do so, hence the term "intricate..."
I LOL'ed
TBH I could listen to Bob Costas talk baseball for hours
@@Turbo9987 Costas is awesome! So articulate!
Can we all agree that the Miami Marlins aren’t one of the 8 teams suspected of cheating?
TheBrabon1 I would say that would be a true statement!
LMAO
Lame. You just stole something else’s comment 👎
No, disagree. Everyone in the league is cheating.
@@kf-vo1fk everybody stealing bruh.
Bob Costas is the man . One of the GOATS. Used to love when he would call Bulls playoff games in the 90s. Such a great part of my childhood love of sports lore.
From a sports caster I liked to a person that says " if you don't like the cheating then quit watching " really no integrity there. But remember now we are living in the days that what ever is right is wrong and what ever is wrong is right.
I’m with Pete Rose’s comments on this, Any player who knowingly used the info at the plate must be suspended and fined.
Pete Rose was a Boyscott to this crap.. and The Media and Baseball Cover it up as usual
Put Pete in the HOF
Tough to prove which batters used the garbage can banging
Agreed. Players are as guilty as the managers. Goes to show that MLB, and alike buisnesses have Zero integrity. It's a good thing Beltran was fired, as well, want with being a player in 17.
@Louis Reed MAJOR diff here is teams were issued warnings about cheating PRIOR to 2017 Playoffs - due to $$$ invested in A/V staff, added cameras, in dug-out displays etc due to replay challenge rule changes. This scheme involved multiple levels fr mgmt to players - now cheaters got caught - deal w/ the consequences, spilled milk + all ...
“Astros used a very intricate system”
Costas: It wasn’t intricate at all. They hit a garbage can with a bat.
LOL
Player's were also wearing devices on themselves to indicate pitches. Costas won't say it yet because it hasn't been proven yet.
Matt Flynn - that was a conspiracy theory/rumor made up by a fake twitter account lol. Pay no mind to that nonsense.
Ian Ford - MLB released a statement saying there were no buzzers or wires of any kind.
@Ian Ford Oh shut the fuck up
"Lifetime ban" you hear how dumb that sounds?
Ian Ford is this the year Altuve won the MVP??? MF’r should be stripped of that for sure
Can we all agree that the Florida marlins aren’t one of the eight teams suspected?
Marlins fan here, can comfirm 😂😂😂😂😂.
Carlos M That’s the “Miami” Marlins.
Sean M oh damn they have been so irrelevant I didn’t know that, I thought they won 2 World Series as the Florida Marlins?
Just remember they won 2 but not as Miami Marlins.
@@seanm3226 still accurate in a way 😂
Thank you, Mr Costas, for your thoughtful, interesting and intelligent responses to these critical questions. One time, several years ago, I thought you shot from the hip - and incorrectly too. I was wrong; you were right. I apologize.
Your basic decency and integrity allow the rest of us to really breathe.
You raise the level of honesty, integrity and professionalism to the field of Journalism.
And you are interesting and fun.
Man I just love Bob Costas. You can tell he puts a lot of thought into whatever it is he has to say.
The Houston Asterisks.
Ha ha!!
This is the best nickname of all time! :D:D Hope it sticks.
Hell yeah lol funny asf. As a gophers fan always enjoy watching the Seminoles football and basketball!
Lol if you were my son I'd be a proud father
Homerun comment.
"Sending shockwaves around the world."
Who writes this stuff?
Stoned Prophet lol everyone is calling it that
Libtards, that’s who!
Clearly Trumptards
We’re all tards for watching this.
It's a bit dramatic but we are talking about CNN. lol
Belichick: “Amateurs”!
I just snorted my drink!!! Good one!! Thank you for that!!
🤣🤣🤣
Russian Olympic Team: *bows down*
Good jokes but you get way more useful information from videotaping signs since the play calls in the nfl are radioed in
@Joseph Santos: Bellick is the Albert Einstein of competitive strategies.
No one has made the observation that this is all happening on the 100th anniversary of the Black Sox scandal in 1919.
At 7:29 Bob literally talks about it. He brought up the entire 1919 black Sox scandal
They're talking about baseball in January. Mission accomplished.
Right
true but once the spring ball or season starts no1 will care again
@@Grebe90 -Exactly. This isn't close to the game when I was a teenager in the late seventies, and as a young man watching The Dodgers and Big Red Machine.. Now it's just mainly an over analyzed boring greed fest.
LOL. Right.
brain smasher 😂😂😂 this comment wins
I’m glad he brought up the advantage the astros had knowing when not to swing. That’s a huge advantage when pitchers lose their ability to make batters chase pitches.
Jay T that didn’t know not to swing. They knew what pitch it was. Which is still a ton of help
As what bob costa said their using the camera on the center field to decode the catchers sign... why don't you blame the tv network ... were in the era of high technology everybody's using it.... astros just outsmart their opponent a little bit more...
As a fan of baseball I feel lied to. As a Dodger fan I feel this is the ultimate betrayal. If I was a fan of the teams that won by CHEATING then I would feel ashamed.
Except that if you try to look back at that season, the only conclusion you can draw stats-wise is that the benefits were very marginal. The home vs road numbers tell an interesting story of little-to-no benefits for the offense. Foolish Baseball did a good video on it. It ended up just being a really stupid thing to do rather than offering large benefits.
@Louis Reed WTF? RIDICULOUS!
Does anyone really think the owner didn’t know?
DES that’s exactly what I was thinking!
Jack D great point sir
@Jack D Exactly! Not every owner is like George Steinbrenner or Jerry Jones orAl Davis. A lot, in fact most owners are very hands off when it comes to the day to day operations of playing the game itself. That's what the GM's, managers, and coaches are for.
So it's very possible that the owner didn't know.
jbod 6887 he is not hands off at all. He definitely knew, he’s the one that sets the astros culture. He’s not a man that doesn’t know what’s going on
@@carlosm.6348 You have no idea that he definitely knew. You're speculating. You don't know for sure, and neither do I. I said it's possible he didn't know, and of course it's possible he did, but you don't know he definitely knew.
Alex Cora's been fired as Red Sox manager.
He should be in jail right?
loc power - Moron.
Sending shock waves around the world
Ban him from MLB. Period.
He should be impeached.
4:55 yes, the Astros think the reward is worth the risk, especially since they get to keep their rings.
Really well put by Costas “...it’s about the integrity of the competition”
yes Bob they lost a few draft picks and got fined 5 mill...pretty sure every MLB would take that for a world series
Michael Washington the reputation tho and the legacy will be affected
Absolutely right! But I am afraid that it was more than just the Astros. Alex Cora was managing the Red Sox in 2018 and they won the world series...he was just fired as well. Coincidence?
@@mattflynn1838 It could be a coincidence. No proof (yet) that the Red Sox cheated.
This wasn't reasonable punishment the Dodgers got snubbed and conveniently lost to the Red Sox the next year to the astros former bench coach the title should be revoked
Hunter what do you do with all the teams that won with guys on PED’s? I suppose forget about that?
Your Dodgers lost bro. Red Sox only had a few great innings. Had nothing to do with "stealing signs".
the red sox beat the piss out of the dodgers and what they did is not the same as the astros nor was it used in the postseason do a little research before you whine
If we're revoking titles, I say the Twins should give up their 1991 trophy because of Kent Hrbek.
bluorangefyre 1991 was fair play
That was nothing more than a slap on the wrist for a billionaire.
billionaires care about their prestige and honor way more than money. $5 million is pocket change for him but his reputation is forever tarnished which will bother him until he is alive.
Olympics strip cheaters of medals. In America, they keep their championships.
5 million is the maximum fine under the MLB constitution
pakpala1 doesn’t matter if you take there little trophy they still won the World Series that year
I agree it should be a lot more, but Fyi, owners in mlb cant just take their own money and give it to the team, the teams spend what they have earned.
Jomboy told us about this months ago. Welcome to the party
A clean slate is removing the Astro's World Series!
They should also blackball every player involved as well.
Peter Zelenkov which I’m sure EVERY player was involved, I want to see what they are going to say
@@varevalo87 I highly doubt they'll say anything. All PR people will be strongly suggesting they zip it.
@Alta May players will keep their mouth shut but not fans. I can't wait to see if they schedule the assteriks in LA. I'm sure they won't. Assterisks in NY or boston in NY will be ripe with chanting as it should be. This won't be forgotten for a looong time. Especially in LA!
@@AltaMay11 Ya well they all Should be Banned and Stripped off all of their money and Titles.. Verlander has 0 now
@@onevato like NY and LA aren't stealing signs. Lol
Bob Costas once again proving why he’s still one of the premier sportscasters of our generation. It’s unfortunate that he has to talk about this cheating scandal but he did so eloquently.
Yes. I cannot imagine having the vocabulary and eloquence of verbal execution that allows one to ALWAYS use the correct word and to have the ability to turn a perfect phrase on a dime. No one can explain stuff in such an understanding and engrossing manner as Bob. Not even Julian. I guess Howard Cosell had this too, but his was in an overly ostentatious manner.
I always wished and hoped for Costas being the commish of baseball one day.
Now we find out how intricate it was. They had ekectrnic buzzers on their bodies they were being buzzed to tell them what pitch was coming. That's why they should be
banned.
Love Bob Costas work. Great talent.
The managers are the “adults” in the room 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They are all adults!! Lol.
This interviewer did a great job leading the conversation
They need to lose her World Series title trophies and rings. All extra money paid to world series champion should be returned.
Bravo, Bob. One of the most thoughtful, insightful, and articulate people in the history of media.
Very much agree, and well said...
I have so much respect for Bob Costas. Such a knowledgable baseball fan who truly loves the game.
They need to revoke the rings, erase the teams entire season including the WS victory
Why? For contravene against a gentleman's agreement?
TH-cam should take down all their stupid WS videos. Bunch of lies!! LA WAS THE BETTER TEAM!!
So where should the money that the owner made go?
They need to execute the coaches by drawing and quartering, enslave their children and take all their women. Then they need to erase the team's name and ostracize their families for 5 generations.
And strip all the steroid home run users of their stats like Bonds, McGwire, Sosa? The home runs happened the games happened put an asterisk next to the championship but it dam well happened.
Let Pete Rose back in the fold
Agreed
Especially being he bet on his team to win! Not lose! They didn't throw any games!
jacob stienecker 100000% agree
We still do not know if Rose changed lineups while coaching the Reds to give his bets an edge with a Reds loss. We only have his word that he bet for the Reds to win. No his ban should remain and someday after he has passed then and only then can his stats and records be entered into the hall of fame.
@@kfgrip "Let Pete in" seems to be the in thing to say now but I'm with you. He was known to have a gambling problem in the 70's . First he lied and said he wasn't betting on baseball, then he said he wasn't betting on Red's games and finally said he never bet on the Red's to lose. Plus, Pete ACCEPTED his lifetime ban so that all the proof against him and what he actually did would be kept from us.
Dodgers were cheated out of two Championships.
i am a resox fan sine the 60's and they should be punished for there cheeting, waht the astros got was a slap on wriste, that tittle belongs to dodgers .
Yankees cheated out of getting to two WS as well
Yes they were !! That's so scandalous !!
Titles should be stripped and given to opponents 👍👍
@@rbrinks5 Yankees are garbage 🤔
The Astros fucked with the integrity of the game. Hurt some young pitchers that were sent to the minors never to come back. Screw the Astros they are great didn't need to cheat. They should be banned from the game for life.
This was really hard to watch. Not because it’s about a baseball scandal but because it’s on CNN.
Counterfit news network
Costas is so good at his job. Now I really understand this stuff.
Really ??? Maybe you are from houston !!
That was a great explanation . Every team tries to "steal" the catchers signals , the Astros used the media television camera in center field in the dug out to watch the catcher and relay by banging on a garbage can . High tech to banging on a garbage can . Who knew ?
If the title can't be vacated, why not put an asterisk next to their title in the record books, something that will tarnish the record forever.
kevbo mevbo no players and fans of baseball will ever respect José Altuve again
Ray Johnson rightly so
@@rayjohnson2768 . Maybe now he'll chase offspeed pitches now on.
Theres an asterisk dont worry
They will
Costas always has great thoughtful dialogue.
Excellent analysis. Bob Costas commentary was very thoughtful.
LOL at "sending shock waves around the world!".
Hungry children in Zimbabwe are SHOCKED about the Houston Astros
Ikr. American news media🙅🏼♂️
I didn't think anyone cared about baseball anymore
Kanye West it’s true, a lot of people 30 years old and younger these days have very short attention spans, a slower moving game like baseball most likely makes them nod out in seconds or switch to staring at their phones like zombies for hours on end.
@@askmemum well yes they are shocked. There Dodger world Champ T-shirts might be a collectors piece now
Is there another debate tonight or something? Need a larger on-screen graphic.
Only Ed and The Almost Yang isn’t in it, not interested 💁🏻♂️
If you think baseball is rigged, then that is nothing compared to the Democrat Presidential race. Cough cough, super delegates.
@@jaimegarcia965 another dipshit
I can't remember the last time I looked forward to the baseball season
1969 for me.
Lol. What now?
Bob Costas is 100% correct that cheating and stealing the signs is not only meant to unfairly help a batter hit a pitch (by knowing what's coming), but also about not swinging at a pitch. By knowing what's coming, the batter can lay off the pitch, in order to work the count to the batter's advantage (and adds more pressure on the opposing pitcher). But he left out another extremely important factor that unfairly helps. It helps the Astros' base runners. If the base runner also knows that a slower, off-speed pitch, away from the strike zone is coming (like in the dirt) - it means the catcher will will be slower to catch the ball, regain their balance, wind-up their arm, and throw the ball to his infielder. This means the base runner will have a much higher chance of stealing the base on those type of pitches (especially if they know its coming). The runner can take a bigger lead of the base, and take off immediately. Imagine a base runner easily stealing base to get into a scoring positions, or a double steal. This changes the dynamics of the at-bat, the inning, and the pressure on the opposing pitcher. This cheating has a big impact on the game.
So... how many Houston Asterisks will get hit by pitches this year.
Try getting it over the plate and you won't be crying about losing to the Stros'.
Probably the same amount of pitchers that will get a Texas ass woopin.
The answer is, all of them John..... all of them.
Punctuation megatron, Learn it! And it was a joke girl, calm down. Grow up and don't get your feelings hurt over this ya weak punk.
"If you know what the pitcher is going to throw, chances are you have a much better chance of hitting it"...that's brilliant
Right lol, thanks John Madden!
Lmao 😂
Leave good ol Bob alone haha. Was def a John Madden moment he had going on there
Not everyone watching CNN is a sports fan, there are going to be people watching this that know as much about baseball as you might know about cricket
This is why baseball isn’t popular anymore. You have to make a statement and strip them of their title.
Bob Cosatas is amazing. Always was.
I echo those sentiments
@@jeffreyholmes9607 -The difference between Costas, and so many is not only that he is smart as hell,but has always had a strong social conscience. He didn't look the other way on steroids and it hurt his career.
@@vernpascal1531 love of the game.
The people who lost money gambling on the World Series should file a class action lawsuit against the Astros and those who cheated!
Yup everyone hates the assteriks except the dillusional assterik fans or the people who won a lot of money off their cheating ways... the true baseball fans feel ashamed and embarrassed but not the gamblers who won big nor should they... it's not the gamblers fault... this is all on the HOUSTON organization and their players that knew what was going on!
Bob Costas remains the most articulate baseball pundit. excellent commentary.
A great breakdown of the whole mess that most can understand from a man who truly understands the game. I'm 60 and remember watching Costas doing Saturday afternoon baseball games on tv at a 12 year old. He did unfortunately omit a glaring reason for the HEAVY fines...GAMBLING. The vice that makes these teams so valuable and the alleged purity that differentiates the major sports from WWE and XFL nonsense.
I had a cousin who got in trouble for stealing signs. They said he could have cost a bad traffic accidents stealing street signs.
😂🤣Been their done that- I even have the orange t-shirt to prove it😂🤣
@Jake Roberts Does not matter where you go as long as you get somewhere
Lol jokers everywhere
I feel bad for L.A., NY fans and Houston fans too. They are now the Houston Asterisks, tainted forever. I hope that the Astros get booed mercilessly on the road in 2020
Didn't the Yankees get caught w the Red Sox using apple watches to steal signs too 🤔 stop crying GaYankee fan 🤣 27 Championships didn't come fair and square 🤣
@@kmena05 Ya and let's not forget about those AROID yankees either...
nah, we gonna come strong and still show up and beat teams.
Kevin M it was the Red Sox that cheated you jackass
Big deal! The Dodgers had home field advantage in the world series and the Astros were not using the system on the road. Besides, the Astros pitching is what won them the World Series not the batting. They shutdown the Yankees in the final game of the ALCS. Yankees and Dodgers need to grow up and stop complaining.
Run on the off speed pitches. They knew when the off speed was coming.
Please don’t give Bob Costas a public forum. We have not forgotten
F..k MLB commissioner letting Astros get away with cheating
As long as the big money is on the line, then it'll always be ' do whatever it takes ' for the money and glory. It's human nature.
John Benedict Just like the US political system.
John Benedict way to defend and deflect
@@peterfrknpan6674 if you want integrity in sports go watch little league baseball or pop warner football...professional sports are a business first...what matters is the bottom line--winners get paid losers end up working at the airport--so ya as far as cheating goes...players, managers, head coaches, trainers, owners, leagues and on and on CHEAT...stop being so naive
true buts its more so an American nature.
And take away Ryan Braun's mvp cuz he cheated too. Kemp got robbed!! 😡
"..They devised this incredible, intricate system..." ...Banging on a trashcan
@Roald Shakleton first I'm not trying to defend the Astros, but lets be honest. the CNN host is obviously trying to make it seem like the Astros had developed some "incredibly intricate system" to cheat. When really they were using the TV in the dugout or tunnel, which every dugout has (bob costas said this himself in the clip) now and is used to help make challenges. I could be wrong about this but i haven't read anything or seen anything (so far) that states the Astros placed secret cameras around the Park. What i have seen is that they were using the center field camera that we see on TV. if they are studying film, its not incredibly hard to figure out signs and match them up to the pitch. Did they cheat? yes. was it sophisticated, intricate, incredibly intricate? naw.
@@dierodri88 True, it is not James Bond level. There is a general clear understanding in MLB that electronics are banned in the dugout to gain an advantage. Managers can not even wear an apple watch. So to have a set up with computers and logging of signs, that has a level of sophistication that other teams would not be ready to deploy. THey will cheat anyway they can, but using computers, tv screens in the dugout to gain an advantage. Not a good look
@@danielkim672 thanks for re-iterating my point. Not sure they had computers in the dug out as that would be overly obvious, but I'm sure computers were involved considering they moved the video room closer to the dugout. Also its not wrong to have film of the other teams signs the issue was that they were using electronics in real time to signal the batters
@Roald Shakleton With Morse code.
@@dierodri88 haha you're welcome!
Bob Costas is the best commentator ever in sports.
As a life long Astros fan, this will forever be so depressing. The only thing the Stros can do to even kind of make it up to the fans is by winning a World Series clean
They did it woohoo!
@@nh55871 and it was beautiful! Parade tomorrow 😬😬
@@bobsaget832 yes it was!!!!!
So the Dodgers should be awarded the WS championship retroactively right?
Douglas Lowe Why?? The Dodgers lost game 7 at home
"Banging on a trash can".... Who would have imagined that the human brain was capable of such sophistication. I don't know how the opposition stood a chance.
The astros’ cheating started when they moved to the american league
By losing 100 games a year
Maybe. It's a different game. Always associated the Astros with a National League style of play. I know they put them in the American to get synergy with the Rangers. Still it takes some getting used to. The Colt 45s, the Astrodome, etc - all that has NL connotations.
It started when Beltran developed the cheating scheme he learned from his previous team...
Actually it begin after 2014 when they realize they could use the monitor in the dugout to spy on the catche's hand signal. The monitor was put in there beginning 2014 for the coaches to view the replays to see if they want to challenge the umpire's calls.
@@bacasillas i heard Cora was the mastermind. Hmmm...
Costas is correct...stealing signs has been a part of baseball forever. If you're sucessful
at sign sealing, it MIGHT give you an advantage...it's not a sure bet. What's being overlooked
here is this: in both the 2017 and 2018 World Series, the Dodgers scored very few runs. Sign
stealing had NOTHING to do with the Dodgers poor showing at the plate. Yes, the Astros (and
possibly the Red Sox) may have scored some runs due to stealing signs. But is was PITCHING
that won both series...the Astros and Red Sox out-pitched the Dodgers in nearly every game.
When you keep your opponent from putting runs on the board, you've got a very good shot at
winning the game...stealing signs or not. Baseball fans, this is hardly the end of the world...
when the first pitch is thrown opening day, most will have already forgotten this over-blown
non issue. PLAY BALL!!!
It’ll be interesting to see what batting averages will be this year of those teams and others.
NFL takes freaking notes. Pats need to be punished.
They already were...
dpistons149 The NFL punishments were soft as Charmin that why Pats continue, continue, and continue.
Duh, p s, the Pats were punished. In fact, they were punished far beyond what the NFL rulebook laid out. Do your research.
@@Ps7apple In what way are the Pats continuing to cheat? Sounds like you're just another envious fan of some far less successful franchise. To imply that the N.E. Patriots incredible run of success is due to nothing other than cheating is either total ignorance or lying. They were so great for so long because they have the GOAT coach and (had?) the GOAT QB.
@@davidberglund8879 they got caught video taping 3x. You sound like the same sorry Patriots fans defending your cheating SB wins.
If MLB put the monitors in the dugouts, it’s kind of stupid to then be shocked teams used them for other purposes.
8 other teams had sign stealing schemes ?? I've never heard anything about this. Electronically ???
Bob Costas knows the answers to questions you haven't thought of yet
I disagree. Who defines what "technology" is? It is immaterial how the signs are unencrypted by the opposing team. The team encrypting needs to evolve their system. Sort of like how the German WWII code was cracked. Watch the movie Imitation Game. The duty to become more sophisticated rests with the team broadcasting their signals. Punishing these teams is wrong.
When it comes to the steroid era, I am reminded of an old poem from that time. "Babe Ruth did it with hotdogs and beer. Hank Aaron did it with class. Barry Bonds went and did it with a needle stuck in his ass."
lol..That was funny!
#nuffsaid
@@m.o.5291 AT least he confessed it!!! alot more than i can say for today's athletes!!
Baseball Doesn't Care.. The Media holds the water like the Democrats.. and its Disgusting
Except bonds was never caught or tested positive
Love Bob Costas👍
The players are also to blame for benefiting from this cheating. There is no honor among cheaters, just look at the Patriots.
Love Bob Costas and his love of baseball.
You know the man genuinely meant every word he read...
Please give 2017 World series to the Dodgers.
Oh make the loser of the ALCS play the dodgers
Bab Costas the professor 👨🏫
@BKK there are conservative jerks too like orange. So what is the difference?
MLB: The Astros can keep the title. Yankees fan: drives to Houston. Takes trophy. Throws it away. Feels better.
I liked this interview. Good questions... good answers, Bob.
Hopefully this is all they will ever be remembered for
Steal signs on Bob Gibson back in the day and he'd whistle a fastball upside your head.
If only every person alive was bob gibson...what a perfect world it would be.
At least you knew it was coming.
He, sure, would, and, then He would go up to the plate, and bat, same as Don Drysdale.
Bob said it correct at the end: "Stop watching"
I feel offended by that wwe comment but he is not wrong.
Greg Weisal wwe😭
I'm offended cnn isn't talking about Russia. jk
💀
WWE is fake, sure those guys get injured and they're really falling all over and getting slammed but the a lot of the moves if done by anyone else without knowing how to do it properly would really injure someone seriously.
Joe Customer if I get tombstoned by some rando he’s probably gonna crack my skull and sever my spine
Costas is such a class act
Why wasn't Jim Crane suspended? He's responsible for the actions of his employees and his team. He forwarded MLB's email to Luhnow and that's it? What about the Astros coaches? Don't tell me they didn't know what was going on, and they all still have their jobs and are employees of the team.
How many other teams have done it?
Just Houston?
Salvatore Smith yes just Houston
Wow, they should both lose their titles. Period.
The only won 1 title.
@@bennyg3955 No, they both won 1 world series. Houston and Boston.
ALRIGHT BACK TO BACK CHAMPS BABY!
If that's the case then we need to strip your team of any title it won during the steroid era.
@@pohorex6834 That's impossible considering how instrumental guys like Clemens,big papi and many others were to those championship teams. I'm a mets fan so I also don't have anything of significance at stake. My whole point is that punishing the Astros so severely for something everyone has done is hypocritical. Its ok to steal signs using the naked eye but god forbid you use technology to do it. All MLB had to do was come up with a way to stop the bs and move on. This thing with Houston is overkill at its finest.
Costas for commish!
Manfred is a very fine commissioner.
@asantos128 Botox, so what? Also ate french fries with power forward Marvin Barnes. Very big deal.
1hard2findbro No. He’d make the Braves and the Indians change their name. And San Francisco’s nickname is offensive to tall people.
In my book nobody won the world series in 2017 and 2018.
Once, my high school baseball manager thought another team figured out our activator signal, so we switched signals. They make phone apps that can figure out baseball signals, maybe instead of playing the blame game we should not keep the same signals for a 162 game season!
The first question was: "In 15 seconds or less explain cheating." What was the point of that question? The explanation was over a minute long.
“Intricate system”. They banged on a gd trashcan
Patrick the electronic technology asshat
The ability to used cámaras in the outfield. Relay it ELECTRONICALLY to the dugout.
Are you really this stupid ?
VANDALISM TOO!
@@peterfrknpan6674 yeah but had they used a smarter method like not banging GD trashcans, we wouldn't be having this convo
Patrick looks like they also wore buzzers
@@tylergodspeed82 that's fake news. If you believe that, then you have to do believe the report saying the Yankees used buzzers too.
That was longer than 15 sec and there’s a timer on-screen, Bob.
exactly. Glad you caught that. I just made a comment about that as well. What was the point of that question?
Bob's pretty good though.
Forget draft picks for Houston. Lunhow already built up the franchise. Stole ROY from LA in Alvarez for Tyler White. Superstars are under 25 yrs old
Bob is right. Deception is part of the game. The Astros messed with that. Teams can watch film, scout each other, figure out habits of other players, etc. When you use a system of technology that gives you an advantage and is flat out against the rules, it changes the present moment and the course of the game. This is worse than using steroids or supplement drugs. Steroids were always used in other sports besides baseball. If you're going to be critical of players who used steroids and be stubborn about them getting into the HOF, then you should be harsh with the Astros or Red Sox even in the same way. I think the Astros organization should suffer worse than a couple fines and short suspensions. They should vacate their 2017 World Series and give them a post season ban of AT LEAST one year. Then maybe these teams will think again before they try to cheat. The NCAA isn't afraid to vacate anything like Michigan's Fab Five achievements, Louisville's 2013 championship, or USC's 2004 championship. But of course the MLB is afraid of losing out on money so they always pretend like they don't know how to appropriately penalize cheaters.