"You are stranded on a single block of land. But don't worry, you have a chest that somehow contains several acres of land and several acres of factory buildings."
*Meanwhile* Me : "Ooh a hidden chest in a deirlect megabase!" Me : *opens it to find its full of prebuilt spaceship expansion psrts* Me : "How did that fit in there? Wait....are we in a ga-- Factorio Admin : *Shoots BloodStorm* "He knew to much....."
Bottleneck might be a nice mod to add, it adds a light to every machine that signals green if it's active and working. Yellow if it's unable to output. And red if it's lacking neccesary input. That way you can easily spot which machines aren't working. Especially useful if you have a large chain of machines that is running isn't outputting what you like it to do.
Bottleneck is one of my favorite mods because it's just simple and clear signalling of information that is already there but just annoying to look through. It just makes the experience smoother.
You should add "Afraid of the Dark", it is purely aesthetic and it really helps us see what you are doing by ramping up the light just a bit. Lamps will be lower priority for you in a series like this due to the hard constraints on power usage. PS: 2 Wood Pellets (12MJ) -> 3 Coal (8MJ) so they are not "way better", but rather "completely identical" :)
2 Wood Pellets x 12 MJ = 3x Coal x 8MJ, except that you use energy to turn Wood Pellets to Wood Bricks and fuel to turn Wood Bricks to Coal, so it is inefficient as a fuel source in that regard.
I've always loved your stuff, Z man, and I've finally decided to get into Seablock myself~ And while the start has changed a bit in the intervening six years, it's still almost comforting to see you go through similar thought processes as myself ♥
OMG I have been waiting for this!!!! This looks so fun and complicated. I am so happy to see you playing this, Z! I can hardly wait for more episodes!!!
You need the Squeak Through mod to allow you to pass through pipes and in between adjacent buildings. The other series...not so much, but it is worth the consideration for this one
Nah, the squeak through mod is just an excuse for bad design. It is more interesting to me to design layouts that allow me to walk around them. If I can't, then I designed it poorly.
Mohammad Hindi That wouldn't exactly work in the current version of Factorio, mainly because I tried it and it did literally nothing to make me clip through the machines. Just gonna give a tidbit on that.
Glad your doing a series on this mod, it's a whole different level of complexity and to have to literally have to build the whole base a real challenge, looking forward to watching the series.
So, I elect Zisteau most likely human to be able to rebuild humanity if there was ever an apocalyptic event that destroys all technology. After he plays all of these mods, he'll just inherently learn how to actually make everything.
I don't comment on your videos often, but this start is making me chuckle. The intro about chuckling of hammering a stone to have stuff to make a furnace, but I find it even more humorous that you need advanced processing plants to make a wood board in this specific instance. Just personally, I think the starting combo would be much more interesting if it started with just basic resources and if the mod had even simple stuff like tree farms. Something to get you those basic resources from a more basic start.
I know it's just a game but... *You can't burn Oxygen!!!* I can't stress it enough because for some reason so many people believe this. Burning as it is commonly understood is something (mostly Carbon) reacting with Oxygen. You can't have oxygen interact with itself more than it does by itself (pairing up to O2) without putting energy in.
*Zahlenteufel1* I'm not sure why there's a fire at all. That building is basically just a vent into the atmosphere. *Elbrasch* Liquids have to go in the clarifier, not the flare stack.
@David Guild In the beginning of Angels mod, it worked with the flare stack ;) And there is a fire in the animation as a nod to the practice of "burning of" gas on oil platforms/as a way of neutralizing many harmfull gases in real life.
Actually you can. Fire requires fuel, an oxiderizer (such as oxygen) and activation energy (heat or spark). The oxygen is consumed as it oxidizes the fuel in a process called "burning"... forming an ash (water (dihydrogen oxide), carbon monoxide or dioxide, metal oxides, etc.)
Him describing the production loops gives me terrifying flashbacks from when I was setting up aluminum in my factorio pyanadons playthrough, which I never ended up finishing, actually
So, I decided to try out Seablock. To put things in the right perspective, I'm not an hardcore Factorio player, I barely scratched trains and oil processing in vanilla. Now I'm understanding the true meaning of "spaghetti" and "THE FACTORY MUST GROW". Dear Lord, what have I done.
I'm incredibly excited for this series. I did something similar where any mining of ore wasn't allowed. The map is currently on hour ~150. Definitely a challenge but super cool to see it all work together!
You should get the Mod "Squeak Through" it allows you to walk between individual entities. So you could have a line of pipes and you could walk through any part of it, it does this with chest and anything else that would have stopped you.
So I've done the math, 8 wood pellets equals 4 wood blocks, the lowest conversion rate possible. That means 8 wood pellets go in and 8*12=96 MJ goes in as well. Every Wood blocks equals 3 coal. That means every 8 wood pellets will turn into 12 coal which also means that 12*8=96MJ goes out. Though processing of coal takes up fuel energy and as such is pointless as you get the same amount of fuel energy out of it. However you can then crush and refine coal into 2 coke each of which has a 5 MJ value meaning you end up with 10 MJ for each 8 MJ of coal you put in. Since this takes free solar energy you essentially gain free fuel energy. Furthermore you can refine 2 coke into 3 carbon each of which has 6 MJ which means that for each 8 MJ you get 18 MJ. Even when you subtract the energy lost by turning coal into carbon dioxide to refine the coke, you still get quite a few MJ.
Pro Tip: Early on, there is A LOT of waiting around for resources. Consider using the Lua command /c game.speed=X to speed things up so you don't have to wait forever. Default is 1, and with a small base I was able to handle X=40 easily
Yay! Someone else to 'nut it out'. I tried Bob's Mods a year ago, and my brain seized up. Zisteau will make it all work, I'm sure, but I literally have no idea how he's doing most of it -- the video series will be interesting.
Good, haven't you heard of the dangerous things that DHMO does to the body? Not only is it so addictive that addicts DIE without their supply, in too large doses it can cause the body to bloat and become unrecognizable after death
Isn't that the stuff they put into BLEACH? It is also highly corrosive, destroying untreated iron and steel. Imagine what it would do to your intestines if you drink it!
You literally can hit a rock to produce iron ore and smelt it without any further processing - Australia, for example, produces huge amount of this ore. It's more than 62% iron straight from the huge open-pit mines and it's shipped to smelters as pellets or just crushed ore.
I attempted to install this mod pack prior to your making this episode because I saw you were going to do it. It totally crashes at start. I see the tutorial pop up where you keep hitting TAB to get to the next screen and as soon as that finishes I get a fatal error that closes the game. So glad you got it working. You made it sound so fun and I really wanted to see it.
Butadiene is butane with the first and third carbon-carbon bonds doubled (unsaturated) so it's CH₂=CH-CH=CH₂ It's very useful if you want to make something with a ring structure.
In my start, I use the starting plates and my first few to craft some burner inserters, which help reduce the manual inserting in the beginning. A small thing but it helps early on. They can later be reused for if you set up steam power too.
so this is like photosynthesis. one set of processes to get base materials in useful forms, and a cycle used to convert the base materials into more complex forms with a little bit of excess
about those wood pellets being better than coal, they are actually the same since 8 pellets give you 4 bricks and each brick gives you 3 coal so appart from the energie lost by turning the bricks to coal it is the same total value since 8*12=96, 96/4=24, 24/3=8
You can already automate the crushed stone, fill a chest with one crushed stone per slot (by right clicking when holding a stack) and a normal inserter will work like a filter inserter
About the "walking around" part you should really get mod called "squak through". Once you try it you can no longer play without it. EDIT: also check out "what it's really used for" , "GDIW" and "helmod"
he replied to another about squeak through, " Zisteau, Nah, the squeak through mod is just an excuse for bad design. It is more interesting to me to design layouts that allow me to walk around them. If I can't, then I designed it poorly"
True qhat you say about real life. Ore must be crushes before it can be smelted, and it produxes slag as well as molten metal; the slag must be removed.
Actually coal is same efficency, because you use two pellets to make three coal. Of course there is the processing power required, but as soon as you get to coke it pretty much becomes worth it, especially if you then turn that into carbon.
WOW just WOW. This looks so cool and I know it will be a good series. But trying to do this my self in game will make my brain twist 3 times. I'm OK with just watching this very cool series 😊
Have you done a pure Angels/Bobs series i can watch... I got as far as blue science in my AB run and realized I'd messed up my design so I wanted to watch someone do it right.
You should get the Arumba lights mod. is meant for TH-cam to help with lighting especially since early game you don't get lights very easily in angels petrochem and metallurgy
I would suggest the squeak through mod, allows you to walk past/over pipes and between structures. Very useful, tho you are probably quite far in this series already.
The recipes are so far from the Vanilla that I had to stop 5 minutes into the video. I'm still wrapping my head around the 0.16 vanilla recipes and efficient builds. No way I can keep all this straight with modded recipes
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"You are stranded on a single block of land. But don't worry, you have a chest that somehow contains several acres of land and several acres of factory buildings."
To be fair, it's harder to start from nothing in Factorio than it is in Minecraft. No cobblegens. :)
Moreover, he's making all his resources out of water.
Shoosh
*Meanwhile*
Me : "Ooh a hidden chest in a deirlect megabase!"
Me : *opens it to find its full of prebuilt spaceship expansion psrts*
Me : "How did that fit in there? Wait....are we in a ga--
Factorio Admin : *Shoots BloodStorm* "He knew to much....."
BloodStorm Wolf This literally made no sense...
Oh man, even when I thought this game was one of the most sophisticated ones in existence theres still mods that make it even more awesome
Dear god I'm coming back to watch this in 2022 and I had flashbacks of learning factorio while listening to you in the background
>when you can make an algae production facility before a 'basic component'
Bottleneck might be a nice mod to add, it adds a light to every machine that signals green if it's active and working. Yellow if it's unable to output. And red if it's lacking neccesary input. That way you can easily spot which machines aren't working. Especially useful if you have a large chain of machines that is running isn't outputting what you like it to do.
Bottleneck is one of my favorite mods because it's just simple and clear signalling of information that is already there but just annoying to look through. It just makes the experience smoother.
Oh god... Angels petrochem. Also known as the mod that makes grown men cry. This will be a lengthy playtrough.
It could be worse - he could also have the “Bobs Electronics” mod also activated.
Oh wait...
so GregTech for Factorio?
btRaddex Nah, there was somewhere Harder Petrochem or something like that.
oh joy.
Oh this pack has Petrochem, Angel's Smelting and Bob's Electronics, so this is great fun.
Ah yes of course, the whasmospaz. I remember my first time using a whasmospaz
And keep your foot off that blasted samoflange!
You should add "Afraid of the Dark", it is purely aesthetic and it really helps us see what you are doing by ramping up the light just a bit. Lamps will be lower priority for you in a series like this due to the hard constraints on power usage.
PS: 2 Wood Pellets (12MJ) -> 3 Coal (8MJ) so they are not "way better", but rather "completely identical" :)
or.. ya know... use the console to turn on “always day“ :)
TheHector, that would be cheating massively in this modpack.
fair enough.. how do i start as in where is seablock under? scenarios or saved game
2 Wood Pellets x 12 MJ = 3x Coal x 8MJ, except that you use energy to turn Wood Pellets to Wood Bricks and fuel to turn Wood Bricks to Coal, so it is inefficient as a fuel source in that regard.
But you can upgrade coal to carbon, witch is better.
I've always loved your stuff, Z man, and I've finally decided to get into Seablock myself~ And while the start has changed a bit in the intervening six years, it's still almost comforting to see you go through similar thought processes as myself ♥
OMG I have been waiting for this!!!! This looks so fun and complicated. I am so happy to see you playing this, Z! I can hardly wait for more episodes!!!
You need the Squeak Through mod to allow you to pass through pipes and in between adjacent buildings. The other series...not so much, but it is worth the consideration for this one
Nah, the squeak through mod is just an excuse for bad design. It is more interesting to me to design layouts that allow me to walk around them. If I can't, then I designed it poorly.
Fair enough. Your designs are pretty amazing, the linear series and recursion series were insane! Looking forward to this one
Mohammad Hindi That wouldn't exactly work in the current version of Factorio, mainly because I tried it and it did literally nothing to make me clip through the machines. Just gonna give a tidbit on that.
Glad your doing a series on this mod, it's a whole different level of complexity and to have to literally have to build the whole base a real challenge, looking forward to watching the series.
So, I elect Zisteau most likely human to be able to rebuild humanity if there was ever an apocalyptic event that destroys all technology. After he plays all of these mods, he'll just inherently learn how to actually make everything.
I once knew a physicist with the last name 'Newby'. I always hoped he would be responsible for that.
@@WinterMafia details boy we need details
I don't comment on your videos often, but this start is making me chuckle. The intro about chuckling of hammering a stone to have stuff to make a furnace, but I find it even more humorous that you need advanced processing plants to make a wood board in this specific instance. Just personally, I think the starting combo would be much more interesting if it started with just basic resources and if the mod had even simple stuff like tree farms. Something to get you those basic resources from a more basic start.
I suppose pollution won't be much of a problem in this.
I love coming back to this series every now and then
I know it's just a game but...
*You can't burn Oxygen!!!* I can't stress it enough because for some reason so many people believe this. Burning as it is commonly understood is something (mostly Carbon) reacting with Oxygen. You can't have oxygen interact with itself more than it does by itself (pairing up to O2) without putting energy in.
I can confirm.
I've put fire in a bunch of oxygen, they've turned into water!
Zahlenteufel1 you can also burn off nitrogen in the game and, if it hasn't been fixed yet, any liquid, heavy mud water for example :P
*Zahlenteufel1* I'm not sure why there's a fire at all. That building is basically just a vent into the atmosphere.
*Elbrasch* Liquids have to go in the clarifier, not the flare stack.
@David Guild In the beginning of Angels mod, it worked with the flare stack ;)
And there is a fire in the animation as a nod to the practice of "burning of" gas on oil platforms/as a way of neutralizing many harmfull gases in real life.
Actually you can. Fire requires fuel, an oxiderizer (such as oxygen) and activation energy (heat or spark). The oxygen is consumed as it oxidizes the fuel in a process called "burning"... forming an ash (water (dihydrogen oxide), carbon monoxide or dioxide, metal oxides, etc.)
This is my favourite series in TH-cam
You are a mad man. Good luck with t bobs and angels mods together, they can be super complex and fustrating.
You are absolutely crazy
But I will enjoy your descent into madness :)
The complexity is fun through, the mad part starts when you want to scale it up to any reasonable level of production...
Using space X... On a seablock mod... with Angels petrochem and refining...
Something tells me this is going to be a really long series.
It took me the entire length of that pre-video ad to read the summary. Thanks for that lol
Rolled my ankle today, i can always come to Zisteau's channel to cheer me up :) keep up the amazing work!
Ahhh...skyblock...Every time someone fell to their death with the DAMN BUCKET IN THEIR INVENTORY...
13:12 "We're gonna be *_burning off excess oxygen_* "
My diagnosis: Chemical Coma
If your space craft were a Culture vessel, it'd have named itself "Sedimentary Lifestyle"
I'm still waiting for the giant wave... since you can't see the horizon.
man I´m glad I´ve seen so many Bobs/Angels campaigns. If it wasn´t for those my brain would probably melt watching this
:D new factorio season, thx Z
Him describing the production loops gives me terrifying flashbacks from when I was setting up aluminum in my factorio pyanadons playthrough, which I never ended up finishing, actually
finally a bob's angels type mod playthrough, so excited!
Woo! I've been so excited for this!
Motorcycle
It took me just over 60 seconds to be completely lost.
So, I decided to try out Seablock. To put things in the right perspective, I'm not an hardcore Factorio player, I barely scratched trains and oil processing in vanilla.
Now I'm understanding the true meaning of "spaghetti" and "THE FACTORY MUST GROW".
Dear Lord, what have I done.
I'm incredibly excited for this series. I did something similar where any mining of ore wasn't allowed. The map is currently on hour ~150. Definitely a challenge but super cool to see it all work together!
Make an atlantis type base with multiple land rings and a central point! That will look really cool
Haven't watched the video yet, just clicked 'like' and hurried off to the comment section to say how much I've been looking forward to this.
the way of describing you were looking for instead of A>B>C>D
would be
[A>B>C>D>A+1]
I found this modpack a while ago and was so hoping you were going to give it a go :) so pumped for this series :) more more more ;)
Exciting serie ! Very glad to see you playing with bob and angel mods !
Dat description though:3
i understand none of it but i like it
leo233357 ok
@ShenZed I agree
@@Xaroser same
Really hit the point with that description.
This is my first look at mods. Thanks.
ohhh this is gonna be good. looking forward to the rest of teh series :)
You should get the Mod "Squeak Through" it allows you to walk between individual entities. So you could have a line of pipes and you could walk through any part of it, it does this with chest and anything else that would have stopped you.
Awesome, more factorio!
This is gonna be fun
So I've done the math, 8 wood pellets equals 4 wood blocks, the lowest conversion rate possible. That means 8 wood pellets go in and 8*12=96 MJ goes in as well. Every Wood blocks equals 3 coal. That means every 8 wood pellets will turn into 12 coal which also means that 12*8=96MJ goes out. Though processing of coal takes up fuel energy and as such is pointless as you get the same amount of fuel energy out of it. However you can then crush and refine coal into 2 coke each of which has a 5 MJ value meaning you end up with 10 MJ for each 8 MJ of coal you put in. Since this takes free solar energy you essentially gain free fuel energy. Furthermore you can refine 2 coke into 3 carbon each of which has 6 MJ which means that for each 8 MJ you get 18 MJ. Even when you subtract the energy lost by turning coal into carbon dioxide to refine the coke, you still get quite a few MJ.
Brilliant concept, gonna watch this one all the way through
Pro Tip: Early on, there is A LOT of waiting around for resources. Consider using the Lua command /c game.speed=X to speed things up so you don't have to wait forever. Default is 1, and with a small base I was able to handle X=40 easily
Yay! Someone else to 'nut it out'. I tried Bob's Mods a year ago, and my brain seized up. Zisteau will make it all work, I'm sure, but I literally have no idea how he's doing most of it -- the video series will be interesting.
excession777 bobs is still pretty linear, angel's mods are what complicates things
The Dihydrogen Monoxide chemical is missing in the mod
Good, haven't you heard of the dangerous things that DHMO does to the body? Not only is it so addictive that addicts DIE without their supply, in too large doses it can cause the body to bloat and become unrecognizable after death
That's fancy name for H2O, oh wait, that's water
Wow what an elaborate hoax name for water. Google it and look in the Wikipedia article that comes up. :D
Isn't that the stuff they put into BLEACH? It is also highly corrosive, destroying untreated iron and steel. Imagine what it would do to your intestines if you drink it!
Is that a request?
you just earned a sub this series sounds and is awesome
You literally can hit a rock to produce iron ore and smelt it without any further processing - Australia, for example, produces huge amount of this ore. It's more than 62% iron straight from the huge open-pit mines and it's shipped to smelters as pellets or just crushed ore.
New to the channel; great vid, great way of keeping peoples attention and love how you have the "how to" vibe behind it.
I attempted to install this mod pack prior to your making this episode because I saw you were going to do it. It totally crashes at start. I see the tutorial pop up where you keep hitting TAB to get to the next screen and as soon as that finishes I get a fatal error that closes the game. So glad you got it working. You made it sound so fun and I really wanted to see it.
Butadiene is butane with the first and third carbon-carbon bonds doubled (unsaturated) so it's CH₂=CH-CH=CH₂ It's very useful if you want to make something with a ring structure.
In my start, I use the starting plates and my first few to craft some burner inserters, which help reduce the manual inserting in the beginning. A small thing but it helps early on. They can later be reused for if you set up steam power too.
so this is like photosynthesis. one set of processes to get base materials in useful forms, and a cycle used to convert the base materials into more complex forms with a little bit of excess
Inputs: Sun, water, CO2
this is great! i don't have time to play normal factorio, let alone modded, but i have time for zisteau!
about those wood pellets being better than coal, they are actually the same since 8 pellets give you 4 bricks and each brick gives you 3 coal so appart from the energie lost by turning the bricks to coal it is the same total value since 8*12=96, 96/4=24, 24/3=8
Sea Block is a cool idea. Adding Bob and Angel to it is pure madness.
think about it for a moment
you made a spaceship
out of literal water
I'm gonna just come back when I've been playing the base game for more than 4 hours, this is way outta my league.
Pretty sure I am about to spend the next few weeks watching this series...
"Closer to real life" *turns sulphur dioxide directly into sulphuric acid* grr...
this is going to be a very long and hard game. Good luck Zisteau :D
5 minutes and I now have a headache thinking about this on a mass scale
You can already automate the crushed stone, fill a chest with one crushed stone per slot (by right clicking when holding a stack) and a normal inserter will work like a filter inserter
You earned a sub! Love the content, very fresh and your commentary isn't too bland or too dramatic! Love it :)
I spent ages trying to figure out how to make a circuit board
About the "walking around" part you should really get mod called "squak through". Once you try it you can no longer play without it.
EDIT: also check out "what it's really used for" , "GDIW" and "helmod"
he replied to another about squeak through, " Zisteau, Nah, the squeak through mod is just an excuse for bad design. It is more interesting to me to design layouts that allow me to walk around them. If I can't, then I designed it poorly"
Well then my bad, so he might not wanna use GDIW because of the same thing, but others are tons of help
True qhat you say about real life. Ore must be crushes before it can be smelted, and it produxes slag as well as molten metal; the slag must be removed.
Awesome video, very Clear Explained, and still fun! Im playing the pack now too, also, youve Earned another Sub!
very very cool episode! can't wait for more :)
Actually coal is same efficency, because you use two pellets to make three coal. Of course there is the processing power required, but as soon as you get to coke it pretty much becomes worth it, especially if you then turn that into carbon.
WOW just WOW. This looks so cool and I know it will be a good series. But trying to do this my self in game will make my brain twist 3 times. I'm OK with just watching this very cool series 😊
Yaaay! You're the best Zed!
This guy has a great announcer voice
Clifford Swartzell I agree
Holy shit. This is gonna be amazing.
Hey Zisteau, you bring the spaghetti and I'll bring the sauce.
Have you done a pure Angels/Bobs series i can watch... I got as far as blue science in my AB run and realized I'd messed up my design so I wanted to watch someone do it right.
You should get the Arumba lights mod. is meant for TH-cam to help with lighting especially since early game you don't get lights very easily in angels petrochem and metallurgy
It was only a matter of time before a sky-block like creation spread to similar games
i was looking for such a mod awesome :D
the solar power and accumulators make a frowning face
Holy crap... this is madness!
I love angels mods and some of Bob's mods, I would like more Bob's if the item icons for a lot of items were not ugly to look at
I would suggest the squeak through mod, allows you to walk past/over pipes and between structures. Very useful, tho you are probably quite far in this series already.
anyone else binging factorio videos, waiting for his next vid?
For Angels + Bobs I recommend What is it used for? Mod. It just lets you know what each item is made from and can be used for.
Would you consider using Arumba's Viewer Light Boost? Does not much other give you a large light just makes it more enjoyable for youtube.
Getting iron has never been harder
this is a logistics nightmare for any factorio player
wow these machines have awesome models
guess I'm an entire factory from drinking water!
I already miss the old intro/outro
The recursion one?
This seems overly complex, but I guess some people are into that.
What is the game of that mod that is like NEI in minecraft? Would have been so useful for my bobsangels playthrough
The recipes are so far from the Vanilla that I had to stop 5 minutes into the video. I'm still wrapping my head around the 0.16 vanilla recipes and efficient builds. No way I can keep all this straight with modded recipes
This video hurded my brain