Finding Your Best Cartridge
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- Welcome back to Ron Spomer Outdoors! In today's episode, we're exploring how to find the perfect cartridge for your hunting needs. Whether you're a seasoned hunter or a newcomer to the sport, this video is a must-watch for anyone looking to up their game.
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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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My vote is for the .950 JDJ. With a 3600 grain bullet at 2200 fps, you have 38,685 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle. That’s sufficient for anything from prairie dogs to blue whales. Seems like a great all around cartridge.
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Stephen Parchewski , in case you didn't know, it is classified as a legal hunting round and you don't need a class 3 license. Js, do with that info as you will. Oh and you can make brass from cutting down and necking up a 20mm cartridge
I was thinking the .550 magnum it's just a straight wall .460 Weatherby.
Dagnabit Bubba, I told you to shoot that squirrel, not bring down the tree!
Yeah, I’m from Canada, so our government classifies them differently. That would be prohibited up here because it exceeds 10,000 joules. Don’t ask me how many ft lbs that is, but anything bigger than a .460 Weatherby isn’t allowed up here anymore.
Hey, do you guys have any suggestions as to what we Canadians should do to help with a brain dead government and gun control?
For me personally the 7MM08 fits all my needs. For the type of hunting at the ranges I hunt at it is all I need.
Absolutely. Pair that baby with a Barnes TSX and your good for anything.
@@georgemcarthur488 If you hand load you can practically make anything perfect though. a 308 @ 3100 fps is pretty solid too.
@@phasechange5053 I've loaded the 130 Barnes in 308 to a touch over 3200 in 308. There's nothing in North America I don't think that load would have an issue with.
God bless America!!!
Hi Ron, I absolutely enjoy hearing you discuss cartridges. I am a outdoor enthusiast, hunter and love discussing firearms of all flavors. My occupation as a RN for the past 27 years has kept me focussed to detail and I love studying the ballistic value of both new and seasoned cartridge designs. Your knowledge filled podcasts have helped me unwind "many a time" following a challenging 12 hour shift. I look forward to many more Ron and just know what a positive impact you are making for this wonderful sport.
Great to hear I'm having some positive impact. Thank you.
Thank you Ron. Very informative and practical. When I was 15 my dad gave me a 250- 3000 savage with a shot out bent barrel. Everyday, I practiced off hand shooting and from different positions. And by the time I was 19, I put more deer in the dirt than any other youth that I knew. No. 308, no. Creedmoor, and no 30- 06. My point is to buy a capable rifle and practice with it. Get very good with these stances and techniques and you'll be successful. That is a recipe for the perfect rifle.
That 250-3000 is quite the cartridge. It's funny you said it has a bent barrel. My favorite rifle has a bent barrel! Old 98 Mauser. Guess she was bent in the right direction 👍
I liked the 7 x 57 Mauser, 8 x 57 Mauser, .30-40 Krag and .30-06. The 7 x 57 for its low recoil, the same goes for the 8 x 57. The .30-40 shoots a heavy 220 gr. bullet at nearly equal to a .308 Win. and in a rifle that is so smooth. And squirrels
Objectively speaking.. the 30-06 is probably the best all around. And the 340 wby is my personal favorite cartridge for shooting anything bigger than a mule deer.
You are a man of my own heart. Unfortunately, my 340 has a 22" barrel (I inherited it), but she shoots a 10" group at 1000 yards with 300gn smk's at 2300fps🤣. Love the good old '06! Cheers my man 🤙
To me it's the rifle 1st. Cartridge choice is the 280 Remington as all things being equal it's 1/10th of an inch flatter thanthe 270 Winchester at 400yds. At 75 yds where I've got most of my deer at any cartridge is good.
I love talking new cartridges but they could have stopped at .308 .270 and 30-06 for big game.
More chamberings! We NEED MORE chamberings!!
Add a big boy 375 or 404 and you would be right
@@gym55rat probably right on the 375 hh. .35 whelen even. I'm just not a brown bear hunter so didnt go up to that. hell 45-70 even. i've always wanted to hunt a brown bear with my 45-70 marlin 1895
I'm fairly new to the whole gun world a few years now. I shoot a lot of different rifles I'm fawn of the 7mm08 and 7rem mag.
You can live forever with those two.
The best of all is the one you have
And can shoot well.
@@JV-lq3tx do you own one you can’t shoot well ?
Omg
280 ACKLEY IMPROVED! The 7mm Remington Mag has always been a great cartridge for any North American game. The 280 AI does the same thing with less powder, a standard size action and you don't have that damn belted cartridge to play with.
Just let me know if you find it brother.
I admire the AI cartridges and plan to update my 22-250 to an AI chamber when I re-barrel it. I'm sure the 280 AI performs well, but I don't understand the common gripe about the belt on the 7mm magnum. It's never presented a problem for me in 30 years or loading and hunting.
@@wrenchoperator6435 I've never had an issue with belted cases. You're right, that .280 Ackley is remarkable.
Pretty sure the 280AI has more powder then the 7mm rem mag.. hence the steaper shoulders which allows for more powder... it is the definition of ackley improved is it not? 🤔
@@jackbruce309 280AI is a 30-06/270 Winchester based cartridge necked to 7mm with the shoulder pushed forward and given a steeper angle. The 7 rem mag holds a bit more powder but the 280AI is right on its heels in performance.
I can say I own many of the greats and what one do I find the best? I still think one of the best is the 25-06 with todays bullets it just about does it all. If I was going to start all over and hunt one caliber for everything in North America I’d go with a 7mm short action ultra mag! I wouldn’t care about how much that box of ammo cost because I’d save many many many thousands of dollars on all my other rifles and I’d be using all that spare change to go on all kinds of big hunting trips! I dare any of all these experts to change my mind!
Put a 100gr Barnes TSX in that .25 and you're good for anything in the lower 48 other than the roaming grizzly (maybe even then).
You are the man! Ron love your work 👍👍
Thanks for the video Ron, I always enjoy listening to your cartridge comparisons.
As usual great way to sum up everything. There are few like you. Great topic, never gets old. Each new cartridge makes reevaluation of all of them important.
Thanks Ron for all you said, mainly the ending. Glad you reminded those that over looked for our freedom. Keep it up.
Ron i absolutely love how you present your talks....great information...entertaining.....just the best.....thank you
Imo, the "best" round is the one that fits the weapon you have when you need to use it! "Ideal" round is as personal as fingerprints. 30-06 comes close for me.
Great one !!
Great points
Another good discussion. I agree, there can be no "one best cartridge" for everyone. I live in Tennessee and hunt on WV also. For me, the 30-06 is the best. If I was forced to own only one, it would be in 30-06. As you stated, It can pretty much take any big game in North America. It is effective on medium sized game. And in a pinch with some reloading can be used for varmints. It is not efficient for varmints but it can be done. The penalties of 30-06? As you stated, higher recoil than many other cartridges, and slightly heavier rifles. It is still may favorite after 28 years of shooting the same rifle. When I consider Africa in the mix (I can dream), then the 375 H&H comes to the top, just as you mentioned. I have one and really hope to get the chance for an African hunt with it before I die. If you were to ask my Dad, he would say .22 LR. He never hunted large game, preferring rabbit and squirrel hunting. For much of his life he only owned a 12 gauge Remington 870 and a Remington 552 BDL Speedmaster. They were all he needed, and pretty much all he shoots even today at 77 years young.
Thank you very much for your videos I really appreciate them.
I do like the 308 and 3006 with a 165 gr Boat tail .
The 165&168 grain Sierra game kings are hard to beat in .308.
@@georgemcarthur488 Agreed and you can run those at quite high velocities safely.
those are pretty much my picks as well im in central maine and with the 165gr bullets you can take down anything that lives in the maine woods but i also like my 7mm rem magnum for the longer ranges on moose and black bears with a 175gr interlock bullet
Thanks Uncle Ron...
I really enjoy the 270 and the 6.5 grendel
Those ammo boxes are beautiful. Great gift idea for myself to myself.
Thanks for your voice of reason, Ron. The short answer is the best...depends on what you're hunting.
Yup. It's nice to have a voice of reason.
11:45 onward. Amen to that brother! Spot on assessment 🇺🇸 its beautiful the amount of diversity we have to experience. This mindset is nothing short of beautiful. Adopting that mindset is one of the most liberating experiences to be had.
You have a great opinion on this subject! I love your work!
Not all game is the same size and terrain varies from place to place where folks may hunt. If you match the cartridge to the game and the terrain, you cannot go wrong. I have hunted deer and hogs in Texas my whole life and I am 65. I have used 6mm Rem, .243, 6.5x55, 30-30, 7x57, 308, 30-06, 303, 8mm Mauser and maybe one or two more. I went through a period where I used a Mosin I rebuilt into a hunting rifle. In the right place, at the right time, these have all done pretty well. As I age, I am moving to the less recoil cartridges. The last few years the 308 with a kid load has been my go to gun. I run a 150gr Hornady RN bullet at about 2500fps. A long shot might be 125yds, so this load works nicely, and it is very accurate too. I get really good expansion.
Excellent video
243 win. Is best for me
Love your theme song!
If i only could listen to one podcast it would be Ron Spomer because he always talks from the heart and everyone should use what they Love 😎✌️
God Bless America !
“Best” is always a funny argument, I’ll take my .270 over 308 or 30-06. Not that I won’t hunt with them as well, but I’d consider 270 better even though the other are perfectly adequate. I’ll take the flatter trajectory over the heavier bullet any day, particularly with modern projectiles it’s a none issue for penetration and expansion
300 win mag is the best, it can takedown any animal in North America with ease, very accurate at long range, has a wide range of bullets and is available in semi automatic rifles. If you hate recoil, shoot 130 grain bullets, if you wanna hunt moose shoot 200 grain bullets and if you wanna shoot targets at 1000 yards shoot fancy match ammo. There's really no other caliber as versatile as the 300 win mag.
Currently voting between the 17hmr or the 6.5 Creedmoor just as a plinker. 6.5 is just so cheap you might as well go for it especially since I’m reloading. Hunt with a 300 Winchester short mag. Have since I was 12 years old. Love that round.
Well said, as always, Sir. When someone mentions "The best cartridge," I normally say, "For what?". My favorite is certainly not the best for some, but I like it! God bless!
Ron, I really like your shows. They are down to earth. They are flat forward and honest and for me I have seven best cartridges and I’m still looking for one more to put in my gun case. Can’t wait for your next video.
Much appreciated, Ralph.
270wby is my favorite. Flat shooting, hard hitting, bullets from 110-150gr. Only downside is weatherbys ridiculous ammo prices.
8mm caliber catridges
The most effective diameter in nitrocellulose powder
And i love 8 57js it can outperform 30 06
I believe that you shoot whatever cartridge that fits your needs in have a 3030 and 30-06 I'll use one for one season the other for the season after I'll take both
I'm casting my vote for the 22lr ... just because more people have learned to shoot with it as a beginner... then we get older and move on to bigger toys...
So what can you tell us about the down range ballistic differences between .223 - .223 Wylde & .223 Ackley?
I've kinda determined that 223 Wylde in a bolt action is just silly... and have to admit that I have one...
I'm thinking of rechambering the barrel to either 223 Ackley or your favorite 22-250 Ackley
I think the 243 is underappreciated as a competition to the 6.5 creedmoor... Most don't need the reach
Agreed!
That’s a good point.
The 6.5 Creedmore will do pretty much everything the .243 will do, and better. The .243 also has a reputation for being a little hard on barrels. I wouldn’t sell a.243 to replace it with a Creedmore, but I certainly wouldn’t buy a.243 in today’s age. Nothing wrong with either, but aside from nostalgia, the Creedmore has the advantage.
People like to knock the 6.5 Creedmore, mainly due to its somewhat irrational, cult-like following, but one would be hard pressed to find a more efficient cartridge.
@@lancekrystoff9619 I hate to be this guy. But, I've been shooting 6.5mm before it was cool with a sporterized 96 Mauser 😆. Between 6.5mm and the .388 was the gap to be filled for a while. The 30's were the pickup trucks. We all know 7mm is the best.😮😆🤙
@@georgemcarthur488 I couldn’t agree more. I’ve carried a 7mm-08 or 7mm magnum for most of my hunting career. I’m currently in the market for an ultralight rifle in either a 280 AI or a 7mm PRC but custom building one is a little expensive and I haven’t seen one I just had to have yet.
30-30 Winchester is a fantastic cartridge in my part of America! It flat kills deer much farther than you can see in my woods. I think of 308 Winchester and 30-06 as absolutely sufficient for anything in North America. I had a 300 WinMag but got sick of every time I shot it getting a new migraine!
I agree. I'm a 200 yard maximum deer Hunter. 30-30 is about perfect. 30-06 wrecks them at close range.
The .300 Savage is an even better 30-30.😉
@@01nmuskier Isn’t the 300 Savage that predecessor of the 308 Winchester? I am certain it’ll work but where so hunt a 308 would make a mess when the 30-30 does it perfect without any mess
@@308dad8.300 Savage was designed to mimic the 30-30, but with a Spitzer bullet in a lever gun. The Remington 99 rifle is well before the .308.
@@01nmuskier The .300 Savage is much more powerful than a .30-30, way beyond any mimicking, at least. And I think it is fair to say that it opened the eyes of the military to the fact that they could get 85% of what the .30-'06 offers in a much shorter action, making a lighter rifle and consuming less copper/brass in wartime.
I really like your videos
Awesome video Ron. I agree 100% - choose what works for you and enjoy it. And don't rain on someone else's parade because you don't like their caliber of choice - as a good friend of mine likes to say: "the world would be very a boring place if we all drove Ford trucks."
For me I am going with the 6.5prc going to see how it works out for me. See how it compares to some of the older cartridges
I know we are talking about rifles but I'd say for a handgun excluding revolvers 5.7x28 is the best due to it having increased ammo capacity, less recoil than 9mm, ability to pierce handgun body armor with some rounds, increased range, and using hollow points with lighter ammo outperforms 9mm.
I have a few calibers for myself. First the 280 A.I. its covers a lot game. Then for big game 9.3x62. I'm thinking about that 338 lapua or 340 weatherby. It's looks great.
👍 good video
Shoot what you enjoy and enjoy what you shoot. My favorite rifle is the one I have in my hands at anyone time, from .350 Legend to .375 H&H Magnum.
I recommend every person own as many calibers as they can afford. Part of the fun it picking the caliber to best fit the hunting scenario you are doing on any given day.
I love my 270!
Outstanding Shot Placement goes a long way towards finding the Best Cartridge for your hunting needs. Confidence in a great shooter can make all the difference. I'm a deer hunter and the 7MM-08 puts deer down immediately and it is a tack driver with 139 gr pointed soft points. Shoot them through the lungs because a shoulder hit turns the meat into that purple snot.
Love the videos, cartridge debates are endless, so you will never run out of content potential! lol. I am a little surprised that 7mm RM didn't make the video, although I am sure it is on your list. Slightly more recoil, but also a good rifle for long range shooting, and very capable hunting round. Although not as preferred for brown bear, and it does have a slightly longer barrel, I think it is a really versatile rifle. For larger than 7mm RM needs I think I would prefer the 338 lapua magnum over the 375 H&H (unless legally required of course). 338 LM delivers similar KE, and more KE downrange than the 375 with less recoil and flatter trajectory. I wish africa would change the laws to minimum mass and KE ratings, but for Coastal brown bear I would prefer the 338 personally.
Keep making content! Always enjoy hearing your reasoning!
My father owns a gunsmithing shop since 1970. Very smart man. I'll never forget the story of when a man came to him for advice on a caliber for hunting Alaska. 7mm Remington Magnum with 140 grain Nosler partitions for the stuff that can't eat ya and 175's for the stuff that might. Guy killed All of them.
If you are not a realoader go with what is most popular, there will be the most ammo available for it. In 30 caliber that will be the 308 or the 30-06 for big game up to Moose. If you reload get whatever you like and have fun. So for non reloaders these are your cartridges small center fire to large. 223/556 or 22-250, 243 Winchester, 6.5 Creadmoor, 308 or 3006, 338 Winchester Mag, 375 H&H Mag. Forget all the others, these will be around forever.
im a fan of 7mm rem mag, but 7mm prc is looking like it might be a new favorite
My all around gun is a 270 weatherby magnum
Your content is always interesting and I’m always learning something new.
Amusing that with what you said there is no ONE best cartridge, everyone chimes in what cartridge is best… 🙄
by golly Ron my cartridge is the best. I use 10 different ones so I know mine is the best.
Ron, I enjoy the living hell out of your talks. Just stirring the fire a little bit. Keep it up and keep people thinking. By the way if I could only have one rifle it would be the fast getting obsolete .358 Winchester.
If there was such a thing as a Best cartridge, manufacturers would be out of Bussines, as Gunn writers. Keep it up Ron🤣
My favorite is 7mm Rem but my problem I went all cal lol
I love the 7-08 Rem. with a 140gr. Accubond or Partiotion for woods hunting with game weighing up to 150kg. I my region in germany. We have roe deer which weights only between 10-25kg max. with a casual feral hog here and there. For me this caliber fits my suits perfectly as well with low in recoil it just checks so many boxes for me. I have a thing with all the 7mm calibers tho. Love the 7x57(R) as well! :)
I am in North America and you have correctly chosen about the very best perfect cartridge with the 7mm-08. Nothing more is needed, any more power gives more unnecessary recoil. The 7mm-08 is the best choice and better than the 6.5 Creedmore for hunting.
This tickles me. I've killed 11 deer here in Michigan with an old K98 in 7x57.
@@royjohnson465 I'm in agreement
@@georgemcarthur488 ~Yes the Hornady 7mm-08 Rem, 139 & 150 grain cartridges are also recommended for Elk & Moose sized animals by Hornady and also slightly outperform the 308 Win, and more power than the 6.5 Creedmore for hunting.
that 7-08 is a dandy of a cartridge that ticks so many boxes. I have never felt under gunned while carrying it for whitetail, black bear and hog. I've never gone after elk, but many use the 7-08 for them. It has more punch than it's credited for, inherently accurate, relatively flat shooting, and easy on the shoulder. And, it's chambered in light, quick handling rifles, as well as long range rigs. An excellent choice for young/small frame hunters and the large guys. I tend to carry the 280 AI more often, but that's just a personal preference.
It’s so simple. For small game, a pcp in .22 at around 30ftlbs with a 16 grain pellet.
For a predator rifle it’s .222 Remington all the way out to 200 yards.
For deer of any size it’s the 6.5x55
I still love the 30-30, but then for plinking the .17 HMR can't be beat ;-)
338 Remington magnum. Shoot antelope to coastal brown bear and most of Africa.
Thank you for the most sane video on cartridges...antelope ain't griz, ar'ent a coyote, nor a musk ox, ner a hawg. Brush tain't a prairrie nor a bayou- an a mountain ain't a holler! Git a hammer fer drivin a nail an a saw fer cuttin wood!
One cartridge i've never seen you talk about is 7.62x39, It has a lot more versatility and knock down power, Then a lot of hunters give it credit for, You just have to buy the expensive factory made ammo which is only about a 1.40$ a round, Which is still too expensive for some they're too used to cheap ammo, Hollow points are hit or miss for expansion It's almost like fmj
I got stay with 7 MM 280 7-30 7-08 7Mag too much here in PA. But I do loud for it.
I have rifles in 22 through 30-O6, including the 7mm's. I'm partial to the 7mm08, living on the east coast.
You need some .35s.
The 7-08 is just another name for the 7-57 Mauser and one of the greatest calibers ever made!
35 Whelen if you handload. I can form brass, cast bullets and get it to live on pretty much anything if times are tight.
Not exactly my favorite, but the Queen of all big game hunting cartridges is the 7 Rem Mag. Does lots with class with easy recoil. Has good range, available ammo, and takes game up to moose!
7mm mag is a king of ballistics. And I don't even have one😆. I'm working up to it. I have the 6.5x55, 7x57.... Bunch of stuff till 338 and 50 caliber things. I've done some loading efforts with the 7mm mag and it truly is about the perfect round. Especially with today's bullets.
I like the 45/70
308 winchester is the best cartridge. With a monolithic projectile, it absolutely shreds. If you put it in a rifle like the Scar 17 which is quite possibly the lightest out of the box auto loading rifle, you can launch a 165 grain CX bullet at 2700 feet and it yields 2650 pounds of energy. There isn’t anything on the North American continent that with a decent shot can be put down in one round. Factor in that for a dangerous animal like the Kodiak brown bear you can panic because it is dangerous and there is no way it takes a full magazine of those. Realistically 308 is not a heavy recoiling cartridge either. I prefer to shoot 6.5 creedmoor, 300 blackout and 223 Remington for reasons like higher precision, quiet plinking and much cheaper ammo but the 308 is king due to it’s versatility. 110 grain varmint bullets to 165 grain monolithic for absolutely crushing an animal’s will to live and then 175 FMJ for long range plinking, there isn’t anything it cant do. I am the farthest thing from a fudd too as all but one of my rifles is a bolt gun, with over 10 of my other rifles being AR15/10 or a variants thereof like a SCAR or AK. Then again I approach firearms with the fact that they are first and foremost, defensive tools and not just for wandering in the woods hoping to find a male animal that meets the criteria to be hunted after waiting years to pull a tag. I guess that’s why I just hog hunt. I don’t have time to set up blinds and don’t want to wake up before dawn just to get skunked for days in a row.
Mr spomer i have a 270 Gibbs I really like it. If you know anything on the Gibbs it would be great to know more about it
7.62x54r can handle up to about 220 grain projectile but seems to favor the 182 grain projectile m30 [j] type loads. the 7n1 and 7n14 sniper rounds are good to but a pain to find . The .276 pedersen cartridge ,7-08 mm, 6.8x51mm tvcm could also be improved with a good high bc lehigh controlled chaos projectile of slightly heavy for caliber weight I think.
Like anything, especially if you follow a topic on TH-cam, you can easily fall into the "fear of missing out," trap. Just because you see the next best 1000 yard shooter 7mm PRC has superior ballistics over your tried-and-true hunting cartridge, does not mean that you have a bad cartridge. For your average shooter you can get very proficient if you shoot more with that one rifle than getting one, two or three more (not that I'm against that).
Everyone has a favorite cartridge..and it's the best for them ❤️
Isn't it great to have choices?
My favorite cartridge is the 7mm-08 Remington! However.. I primarily hunt whitetail and the occasional black bear!
That being said.. I've used successfully..
The 303 British
The 30-06 Springfield
The 7mm-08 Remington
The 350 Remington Magnum
The 358 Winchester and
The 350 Legend
How rare is 350 Remington Magnum ammo?
600 or 660?
@@grannydeen1586 oh it's definitely scariest!
I had a Remington 700 classic.. chambered in 350 Remington Magnum. Sold it back in 2007.. during my separation/divorce!
Actually sold everything 😔
It's taken me a little while to get back.. but my replacement is the 358 Winchester!
That's a nice cartridge and easier to find ammo. Not easy.. but definitely easier than the 350 Remington Magnum.
@@grannydeen1586 Not rare at all. I have dies, brass and bullets. The dies came with the Ruger Flat Bolt I bought years ago. Brass used to be a shelf-stock item. It's super not picky about powder.
@@blackie1of4 The .358 is the best, most efficient .308-based cartridge. It's the best deer and black bear pea-shooter ever.
@@brentworls8509 I had dies as well.. but it definitely is not a good idea to even think about a 350 Remington Magnum unless you reload.
I used factory ammo with success and had to get dies and 225 grain partitions for the once fired brass. Mine was pleasant to shoot once I switched to the limb saver recoil pad! Prior to the switch.. I'd shoot 12 rounds and be done! Definitely reminds me of a 12 gauge shotgun off the bench! Fun but not enjoyable after a handful of rounds.
Now.. the 358 Winchester is a hole nother story.. I could shoot it without fatigue! The difference on game is not enough to say ones better than the other.. in my opinion.
Well Ron the numbers don't lie. 6mm arc was built to have the balistics of a 308 with the recoil of a 223 and it does all that, so it's the best lol. Let's not forget the 260 Rem.
Can you talk about your view on the 300 Ham’r some time? I would love your insight on it.
I 100% agree. I would love to hear Ron’s take
I shoot hogs here in Texas and I really like the 300 Ham'r, have mostly used the 130 grain Ham'r Hot Core. Bullet weights from 95 to 150 grains is nice. I have 16" and 18" AR rifles and am in the process of building an 11.3" AR pistol.
A .22lr behind the ear is just as effective as the .300 Ham'r. However, neither has the sectional density for tough animals.
@@brentworls8509 Your statement about 22lr behind the ear and to compare it to 300 Ham'r is plain silly, and the second part of your comment is false as well. A 150 grain bullet for the 300 Ham'r has the same sectional density as a 150 grain bullet for .308 and 30-30. Both 308 and 30-30 have been used for tough animals effectively for decades. Big hogs are tough animals and I have shot many here in Texas with 300 Ham'r with great effect as well.
@@ErickaC-mc7vg I prefer 250 grains loaded in my .358 to put behind the ear of a hog, it surpasses the SD of the arbitrary 150 .30 caliber bullet. Still no better than a .22 in the same spot.
.22LR is the Best, because me and my young Kids can have fun with it.
7x57/ 275 Rigby
I have one bolt gun. It is a .308 Winchester. Not the best in any one area, it does a number of things well, and is always available in some form....
While I generally shoot a 300WSM. I really like another gun that is a 8x57. But Lord knows a 30-06 is a heck of great caliber. Then I bought my daughter a 7-08. Apparently, I feel strongly about the “Only“ caliber you should shoot. 🤣
As a newer hunter, and a western hunter my biggest concern is what is ethical and which is the most reliable. I have decided after watching many of your videos the 300 win mag is the best choice for some one worrying about and ethical clean hunt. It has the power to down anything but more importantly it has good ballistics and does not drop very much within 300 yards. Of course many calibers have good ballistics but I like the 300 thanks Ron. All the info you present lead me to this choice.
Great choice! One of the best! Having hunted, reloaded and collecting for 60+ years and having owned about a thousand rifles in every caliber and brand they make, the 300 win mag is one of the very best for North America! I might know since my father hunted with a pre64 when it came out and I hunted with a 300 win mag in Brownings, Weatherbys, Remingtons, Winchesters and Sako’s! It’s a little big for most deer but if you handload then you can load it down or up as needed! Just make sure to use a premium bullets so they don’t on impact at closer ranges!
Just make sure you can handle it properly if you're concerned about ethics. Too many people have a magnum because they want 'more margin for error' and to' use enough gun', but they can't handle the recoil and end up wounding and losing animals because of poor shot placement. So they would've been better off with a lighter cartidge that they could shoot more accurately. That's the only advice I would have if you want one of them.
As for bullet choice it's really about matching the weight and velocity to the design. If you're shooting light bullets (165, 180 grain etc) then use something bonded or similar. If you're going heavy and slower (210, 220 grain) you can use something more fragile which will expand more and destroy more tissue, without much risk of underpenetration. Plus you get higher BC if you want to shoot out further.
I don't know what you know about rifles and all that goes with it. That being said, I would try to get you more in the direction of the 7, 6.8 and 6.5 mm guns.
@George McArthur thank you for the advice, my first rifle I hunted with was a 25-06 I have heard great things about those calibers
@@blightedblue2762 Any caliber you choose... Barnes bullets or Nosler. My personal choice is Barnes TSX. Could go into why it's more the bullet than the caliber. But I did pole axe a #1200 moose with a 120 grain bullet at a mv of 2700 and completely traversed his body at 300 yards. Barnes TSX Man.
300 Weatherby Magnum. Second choice 300 Win Mag. 20" Magnaported barrel, Cerakote finish, composite stock. 220 gr. Nosler Partition bullet for big bear. Light weight 2 to 7 compact scope. Aluminum mounts. Excellent Alaska mountain rifle. 180 gr. Bullets for Sheep, Goat, Caribou.
I've always used the 30-06 not because its the best it just works period
The versatility is what sold me. I can load it for whatever my needs.
Definitely does 👍
You didn't mention the shotgun: shot to slug, gopher to grizzly, and pheasant to pterodactyl.
I was hoping you would talk about what criteria to use to select the best cartridge. I choose 30-06 for Pig hunting and I had some careful reasons why. I was hoping to hear some reasoning why people choose the cartridges they do. Or what factors should they consider when choosing a cartridge. My Dad hunted wild pigs with his Grandfather's 300 Savage 99. He shot them with a 165gr SP 5 times but they just kept running off. He was a good shot and the gun is a tac driver. So the next year he brought his Winchester Ranger LH in 270. That one did just as bad. Both had to be finished off with a 357 mag. He would have brought the 300 H&H but we thought that might be too much gun. I thought a 30-06 with a copper bullet might be just right for Hog. Based on my dad's experience.
Just set me up with a 270 and I'm good! But close in I'll take the 300 blk out
I just found some videos I'll watch them
This is one of the most balanced appreciations of which is "the best" calibre argument. Thanks!
Another example is the argument that constitutes the best "client" calibre for cape buffalo. Many would immediately opt for the 375HH, but in actual fact, the 9.3x62 is far more versatile (in this application) since it has far less recoil (for recoil shy, or small framed hunters) than the 375HH. Other advantages are that it uses a comparable bullet weight, has very good straight line penetration, and is very accurate in placing that all-important first round.
Not that you'd hunt buff at such ranges, but beyond 250yds, the long-range power and versatility of the 375HH exceeds the 9.3x62.
As you say, each calibre has it's advantages and limitations. And apart from recoil, bullet selection, etc, it also comes down to the intended game, ranges, and the type of landscape the hunter will be hunting. 👍
I hunt deer with 7.62x39 and I've known people to hunt and taken elk with it. To a point, it's not what you have, it's what you do with it that matters.
What a god awful caliber for literally everything. The trajectory is absolute dog crap, its too light for big game, too big for varminting and the bad trajectory. I could go on all day. It is a garage round, no offense
The best rifle cartridge is the one you already have your rifles chambered in😂
Hey Ron. I have a question. This is something I've thought about. My dad is the survival type person. He bought a rifle that's a 45 long and a pistol. 1 round to cover everything in a shit hit the fan. Katrina hurricane situation. I'm not that big of a pepper type ordeal. but he did get me thinking. especially when we seen what happened after Katrina.
In your opinion. What would be the best all around rifle/pistol round. For that type of situation. Something you can take down large and small game hunting no problem within 100 yards And you might also have to use it to defend yourself and your family.
It really depends if your platform compliments the the round. You don't want a feather weight 300 RUM.
I'd say 9,3x62 to my knowledge it's the only gun used for birds- elephants still today. It's truly all round, and can do most things. So that's my vote for the best. But what am I using? A winchester 1895 from 1921 in 405 winchester. Why? Because I think it's the coolest gun ever! 🤠👍
Best sleeper cartridge 7mm-08