Babylon 5 Declares Independence
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ธ.ค. 2021
- Babylon 5 Declares Independence from B5's Severed Dreams (episode 10, season 3). Please note this is all the relevant CGI extracted in order from the episode.
I recently started re-watching (yet again) my Babylon 5 DVD box set collection. Figured I'd do a favour to all my subscribers that did so because of the B5 content I uploaded in the past.
Although it's entertainment, we can also consider it educational for anyone studying CGI of the mid 90's.
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Maybe put CGI in the title?
I don't think many people click on the description, especially not before watching a video...
Maybe you should title these clips appropriately? Just put (CGI only) at the end of the titles.
While I get that you want to focus on the CGI, Delen's ultimatum to the EarthForce captain was absolute gold and anyone who hasn't heard it should look this scene up!
The most epic "why not?" in all history.
Why not!? The only human to survive a Minbari attack is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!
@@hobbychain Earth Captain: "XO, sound Brown Alert throughout the ship! Helm, Engage Get The Hell Out of Here maneuver!!"
He is behind me YOU are in front of me !
Delen’s speech was pure Art of War - “subdue the enemy without fighting” it’s absence makes this cut pointless
"Only ONE human commander has ever survived against a Mimbari warship. He is behind me, you are infront of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else."
No Minbari vessels were harmed in making this film
They would not have been anyway, if they came in with Stealth tech on. The same tech during the Earth Minbari war where Earth ships could not lock on.
@@ChannelReuploads9451some say Omega class managed to crack that Stealth system but I don`t know, speculation, probably. Of course that system was a huge advantage, but their weapons are also stronger in general and can recharge and fire faster (based on what I saw on screen). I also imagine they can fire from longer range whereas others would have to come super close to manually targeting, but they`re doomed to that moment.
@@spaceexpireaudio666 In sheer destructive capability, Earth weapons were actually pretty on par with Minbari vessels, it was the inability to lock on that hurt them. Assuming that Omega's could lock on, the Sharlins would be more maneuverable due to not needing rotational sections. By the time we get Warlocks, they actually outclass the Sharlins.
@@seandlax9 I`ve seen even Hyperion managed to do a certain damage to Sharlin at close distance, true. Although I`m not sure if the firepower was equal. Sharlin`s beam weapons should be more powerful than Nova weapons. But I would totally want to see Omega engaging Sharlin. Agree about Warlock. I actually could never understand why Centauri even thought of declaring war to EA, when Minbari are their close friends since then. Or did they all die like Asgards from Stargate? Something I`m missing
Hahahahahahhah!
This was the best "war" episode of Babylon 5. Not only did it have a great battle sequence, it also had fantastic personal scenes from the characters. IIRC, this episode was the most expensive one to make in the series and garnered them an award. An Emmy, I think.
It won the Hugo Award, beating Mars Attacks! and Independence Day to do it.
@@Brakkart Ah. Thank you.
0:43--Delenn leaves on her ambassadorial shuttle.
3:51--Delenn comes back brave, bold, and battle-ready on the White Star...and with _three_ war cruisers!!!
As clean as the cut is the parts with dialog helps build the tension and the feeling of loss when the Churchill rams another ship as a last act of Valor.
Almost every time a space battle with the extra scenes cut out is welcome..... this was not one of those times.
Agreed. There was so much dramatic presentation in the personal scenes. From Sheridan talking to his father just before the battle to Ivanova's impassioned speech as to why she had to join the Starfury squadrons. Great stuff.
It's just low brow pew-pew-pew without the dialogue
Yes rather a jumbled mess in my opinion.
If you value your lives be somewhere else!
@@Vulpine407 Also, removes the carnage of the security fight and the sacrificial charge of the Narn to allow Security to cut the range into melee range with the Marines who would have slaughtered them at range.
I read a novelization version of this episode a long time ago and it stated that every Narn that fell got the rest of B5's troops a meter closer to the Marines.
3x10 Severed Dreams... By far the single best episode of B5. It is best watched in its entirety.
"do not force us to engage your ships" ..."why not?" ...best quote ever :-) only fool would engage minbari cruiser at that time.
Their Identification Friend or Foe systems must have been working really well!
Also, love the detail that the Star fury engines don't light up until they have cleared the launch bay.
Dear Mrs. Smith,
We regret to inform you of the death of your son. He was flying a starfury when we were attacked by loyal Earth forces. Because of the political expediency of having the enemy fire first, your son and many other sons and daughters were sacrificed when the enemy initiated fire.
We are so sorry that they had to be sacrificed so we who are living now today, can do so in a cooler political climate.
I hope this is some consolation to you... So sorry.
Captain Sheridan, Babylon 5
I just found out I am comment 111!
Remember the Churchill and Captain Sandra Hiroshi...
I love the intro music to each Babylon 5 episode, that's some Windows 95 nostalgia right there.
"Bring us in closer to the enemy."
"How close?"
"Right down their throats."
02:31
Only one human captain was able to defeat the minbari fleet, he is behind me… you are in front of me, if you value your lives…. Be somewhere else.😮😊
i so love delens comment to the earth ships attacking!!! she will be sorely missed should they do a reboot/sequel to the show1!!
0:17 I particularly like how Earthforce lasers seem to have a build up before reaching max intensity.
One single blast from one single rear canon of the Omega took out the Hyperion without much of a sweat.
Why not? Only one human Captain has survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives be somewhere else.
one of the best lines in the entire show.
along with Sheridan's return from Z'ha'dum
Drazi: Captain…we're sorry…We thought you were dead.
John Sheridan: I was. I'm better now.
EA Destroyer 1-MC: "Attention all personnel; Code Brown in the Captain's trousers! I repeat, CODE BROWN!"
Never understood this line. 2 humans survived the Minbari fleet both Sinclair and Sheridan. Only Sheridan beat one.
@@waltermcgarvin8001 welll TECHNICALLY Sinclair was Va- *message has been intercepted by the Grey Council... you have seen nothing*
@@waltermcgarvin8001 Delenn wasn't talking about humans. She was talking about Earth Force Captains.
Only Sheridan and the EAS Lexington engaged a Minbari fleet, destroyed it and survived.
Many Minbari ships were destroyed in the war. Other then the Lexington, none of the attacking Earth ships survived.
20,000 humans were at the battle of the line. 200 survived. The difference between these 200 survivors and the Lexington vs Drala Fi is that they killed the Drala Fi. None of the attacking Minbari ships at the Line were destroyed.
Funnily the best bits in the show wasn't the CGI.
Interesting observation: Agrippa and Roanoak are accompanied by 2 Hyperion class heavy cruisers but they do nothing and magically disappear when the battle begins. What happened to them. Did they forget about the ships when they were making the scenes for the battle?
always wondered the same thing.
I’ve binged this show like…3 times by now. They really don’t make ‘em like they used to.
It's funny how in these later engagements the old Hyperion destroyers are not even worth a mention. Just a quick "me too!" shot. All the focus is on the Omegas.
Omegas are great 👍🏼
I like these two types together. Other races mostly have just one type of battleship. But it makes sense to have many designs for different roles.
Maj. Ryan: Hiroshi...get out of there! Get to the life pods!
Capt. Hiroshi: Too late to get out; our primary systems are hit, we've got fire on all decks now! There's nothing we can do except...
_transmission cuts off_
Maj. Ryan: Hiroshi? _HIROSHI!!!_
3:06
Oh man, even without the buildup the Churchhill still got to me.
the reason why the graphics are still great is because their were to only be 6 major battles in the whole series. B5 vs raiders season 1, B5 vs EA, Sector 87 and Coriana 6 from the shadow wars, Proxmia 3 and the battle for Earth.
ok, i know you only include the VFX parts in your clips.... but its almost painful you didnt include the dialog between Deleen and the EAF Commander... its SUCH a great moment, even if you just had the voices of the conversation overlaid behind the VFX
Totally agree - some of the best lines in the entire series!
Hoshi get out of there!
It's a good point. B5 did have some cool visuals, but it was the writing (and acting) that really made it a stand out.
@@dirdib69 some of the writing was great, some was average but the fact the whole series, not just a single season, was planned with events and character arc's before the pilot was even aired is the real stand out feature of this series.
Thank you very much. 😍 No I have to watch the whole series again. For the 10th time (or even more often). Just like DS9 and Battlestar Galactica.
I can't wait to see both reboots
You removed the best part of the "delaring independence." Delen's speech. You sir are currently standing in front of me.
Probably the best battle from the entire series...
It's a shame you didn't leave the dialog of Delenn that was the only scene that needed to stay to bring context, otherwise nicely cut.
damn, i always have chills when the heavy pulse cannons of those two orion cruisers fire their volleys. there you get a feel on how powerful the EA ships got. still not enough to take on the minbari, but still. you definitly can se the development in comparison to the older ships from back in the days.
I love these scenes with the x-ray particle laser action.
they aren't laser! heavy paricle beams Laser - is photons, heavy Particle beams - ions of heavy particles. And rest was pulse cannons or missles.
The Babylon 5 independence battle looks great.
Delann probably said "if you value your life you'll leave now." lol
She actually said "Only one human captain has ever survived a battle with the mimbari fleet He is behind me, you are infront of me.If you value your lives be somewhere else...."
Just the CGI. Okay, now it makes sense. Very good!
Has anyone calculated the equivalent defensive and offensive firepower of the space station? Does it have the same or more firepower than one destroyer and or heavy cruiser? Or does it have a defense grid comparable to or better than the same?
I suspect the station (after refit) has the firepower of 1.5 destroyers (fighter compliment] included) and one heavy cruiser. With the defensive grid of two destroyers, only if the fighter compliment is at least >75%. Once the fighter compliment is
This is Captain Dexter Smith of the Earth Alliance Destroyer Agrippa to Babylon 5 and renegade ships. You are ordered to surrender your commands and prepare to be boarded.
This is your only warning. If you do not surrender, we will be forced to initiate deadly force.
goosebumps always when i hear that
This is Severed Dreams though - not Ceremonies of Light and Dark.
Whoops, my bad. Thanks for pointing that out. Correction has been made.
Thanks for the work. :) And something for the future - I know that you said you only added the CGI, but if you advertise with declearing independence, then you should at least include that part, even if its not cgi.:D
This show was awesome. I loved the series and the spinoffs. It saddened me to see not be able to more of it.
Still have all of B5 on Video as well as DVD, also there is Third Space, River of Souls, In the Beggining. There is also another dvd, sure of the name though.
A call to Arms. About the Earth Minbari War.
There is also " The legend of the rangers" G'kar last appearance!!
Agrippa got Torn to Pieces but I will also agree, you forgot delenn and the role those Cruisers played
the best of sci fi series :) thx
Amazing CGI for a 1990's TV show!
I have the whole entire series of B5. When it went off the air officially. It’s like sayin goodbye to a friend. I do the long lengthy TV movie: The Gathering,In the beginning,Third Space&the expanded episode River of Souls.
👉🏻I do have B5 the lost tales.👈🏻It never got aired on TV. There was rumors that B5 was going to on another season(s) like 6&7 or just 6. But it never materialized.
When Agrippa blew out the ship appeared to be mostly intact. Would’ve been nice or awesome to see a salvage team board her and repair it or at least salvage what they could to use on the other ships, not to mention an awesome opportunity to have a sad moment when the B5 crew sees the horror a civil war has by seeing friends or colleagues dead. Oh well, guess I’ll have to hope someone does some amateur cgi or fan film.
Extra sets that need to be made and more people who need to paid as dead bodies etc. It is a nice idea and may possibly have been considered but the cost would have been way too high
I stumbled across this channel a few days ago. Been watching many of the vids posted. Subbed. I have also been looking everywhere for my B5 DVDs. I had all five seasons and three of the 'movies'. Can't find'em anywhere. I'm sure they'll turn up when I least expect it. Til then, I guess I'll keep watching these. Merry Christmas & cheers from Alaska.🎅🎄❄️
The title of the video should specify it's just the CGI bits, not just the description.
Humans doing what we do best... fight each other. xD
You think that after nearly being exterminated by aliens we'd finally be united.
Far better than Star Wars could have ever been.
I loved this episode because there's a whole lot of fighting going on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Showed the horror and tragedy of war
Why didn't you include Delen's "boss" speech?
Read the description..
Alls well on the Epsilon III front.
That cut was indeed absurd
They left out Delenn's speech
If you value your lives, be somewhere else.
That part isn't CGI. Please read the description.
The battle is nice but why is most of the dialogue not included, much of the context of the battle is lost without it???
You should not need to ask such a question if you read the description. Fortunately you are polite, unlike others who don't read it and choose to comment.
You didn't read the description. I'm doing CGI extractions as I re-watch the show. If people want the live action scenes, they can find them elsewhere or simply watch the whole episode.
What was this green stuff and why wasent it used more often. (Probably because the power draw required a station)
Never understood why they didn’t put cannons on either side of the gate and blast the shit out of ships as they came through
Because the Earth Force is cheap. ( no seriously. They are)
@@TheMrPeteChannelseems cheaper than replacing the ships they loose in a fair fight.
As of this moment, Babylon 5 is seceding from the Earth Alliance!
*I ❤️ BABYLON 5!!!!!*
And to think this only happening in the far future............
I never understood why earthforce ran that day,I had come into the series midway around the time Sheridan had killed that first shadow cruiser. It was when I watched the entire series that I realized how Close to extinction we came.
If those Minbari war cruisers had wanted to get serious even the Omega destroyer would find they were a serious fight individually. A pair of them with a white star to perform slashing attacks? Well 2 omegas vs 1 Sharlin? Maybe it would be a fair fight. But 2? Earthforce knew they were seriously outgunned and made the intelligent choice to leave while they were still flying
Daelenn's ships should have come in firing, clearly Minbari Sharlin-class battlecruisers run circles around EA Destroyers.
They really should have. Clark's nazis got off too easy.
Omega Class destroyers can actually lock on to Sharlin class Warcruisers. They developed a sensor package that can burn through the Minbari Stealth systems. The Minbari would still either do heavy damage or destroy them though.
That would be an act of war. They came in guns cold for a reason. That way the Earth alliance ships would have to be willing to start another war with the Minbari. Which of course they weren't stupid enough to do, orders or no orders.
@@Gothic7876 They were able to only get a silhouette, if their ability to lock onto the whitestars was any indication. Even then, it wouldn't do them any good if they would be obliterated in the opening volley from the Sharlins! Those ships were wise to back down when they knew they had zero chance of surviving a fight with a foe that vastly out-powered them in every way! :P
@@MD2389 The Whitestars were more advance the Sharlins and filled with Vorlon techology.
When I was a kid in school, this CGI was the shit. Now, I see they re-used alot of CGI scenes. An the TV port quality is...pretty shit...but thats to be expected.
This would be so.mething I would WATCH, AGAIN..Would also wouldn't mind an updated remake ,...
I loved when they threatened to attack those Minbari War Ships. That threat fell on deaf years. They were lucky the Minbari allowed them to run away.
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I want this remade in 4k! Would be badass as I love this series
space battles without the supporting commentary is boring
President Clark is like Joe Biden and the u.S is ran by the shadows
Earth alliances threat to the Minbari reminded me of the US navy vs the Spanish lighthouse story.
Too trimmed
Babylon 5 is so much better than Star Trek. I don’t understand how Star Trek is more hyped
Cutting off Delenn's speach make you loose a lot of points on this montage. She the best non woke culture female character on that series.
You're far from the 1st to make such a comment and I don't think you noticed what's written in the description. Please look elsewhere if you want the live action footage.
Traitors!
I love this but have only one issue. B5 had ambassadors & sovereign alien species on it. Was EA intent on a war with all friendly & neutral species as well?