She now joined Jeffrey Sinclair, Michael Garibaldi, Dr. Stephan Franklin, GKar, Vir Cotto, Zak Allan and Zathras (Zathras, not Zathras) beyond the rim. A toast. To…absent friends. In memory still bright!
"...If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" "So either President Clark kills us or the scary Minbari lady does. ...The hell with this. We're jumping over to Star Trek and spending a week on Risa."
Shortly before I found out, Bruce Boxleitner tweeted a pic of Mira laughing. And I thought, 'oh, that's sweet' and then, I found out why he probably tweeted that. I had missed the previous tweet he'd sent about her passing in my timeline.
THE SINGLE most glorious badass moment in all of sci-fi ladies and gentlemen. "Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" Still gives me the chills and feels👍😎
Between this and "This council should be BROKEN (*snaps the staff*)... as. was. prophesied." you DEFINITELY do not want to get on Delenn's bad side! :D
VERY GOOD LINE INDEED! I would compare it to Benjamin Sisko's closing monologue in "In the Pale Moonlight". Best? Probably depends on which show one likes better.
I love the WHY NOT. Such a powerful statement. The rest is just drawing a picture for the slow opponents. We have the numbers. We have bigger ships. We have stronger ships. She is the bad ass at the bar being challenged by the guy who talks big but clearly backs down when stood up to.
Something tells me the helmsman was already plotting the 'get the hell out of here' cords the moment those Minbari ships appeared. I know I sure as hell would've!
@@Suisfonia Probably before that, even. They'd just come out of hyper to find that the fleet they were supposed to reinforce had been reduced to clouds of gas and burning wreckage. That's the kind of discovery that leads to a rapid re-evaluation of the tactical situation...
RIP Mira. Has to be one the strongest and most passionate portrayal of a female hero I've ever seen in a sci fi show or any show. Her compassion was truly epic..its so sad she died so young. I'll never forget Delenn and Mira
I loved what she said there. "Only one human has survived direct confrontation with a Minbari ship. He is behind me, you are in front of me. If you value your lives, be elsewhere." That may be one of the strongest single speeches I have heard given by a female lead character in any movie or series ever. And it was not the only one that she had. I liked what she finally said to the Inquisitor, Sebastian. And my favorite Sheridan line was the one where he says he was dead, but he is feeling much better now.
This is the point Hollywood has forgotten. We’ve always adored strong independent women. What we don’t like are Mary Sues who are just bad cardboard cutouts with no personality. Delenn was complicated and beautiful she was soft and kind, and an absolute stone cold warrior. We laughed and cried and cheered for her. Mira brought her to life and made her extraordinary.
Don't forget vulnerable and proud, for example after She gained hair, it was a problem, how to clean it and look after it. The only person She could trust was Susan. th-cam.com/video/s9UJOgC0Qjk/w-d-xo.html
... if you want the female readers to believe that they need to act strong in the same way male action heros did in the 80s. If you just let the female heroes act the same way as male heroes thats neither original nor insightful writing, but just lazy.
@ZeitdiebX agreed, it will be updated for "modern audiences", plus you just don't have the same small screen acting ability that all these actors do. Tell me who would you replace the dynamic duo of Londo and G'Kar? Character or actor wise!
RIP Mira. She joined Richard Briggs, Stephen Furst, Andreas Katsulas, Jerry Doyle and Jeff Conway beyond the rim. May she watch on us from there and thank you for all moments in Babylon 5 and Lost. Every time B5 actor died it was hit, but this, this was biggest and strongest hit to me. Delenn, Susanova and Sheridan were best characters to me in B5, but she was Number 1.
@@avoidscul-de-sacs4668 It's a show with so many amazing moments, and so many of them now are featuring people gone too soon: -"DEAD. DEAD! DEAD!" - G'Kar to Vir -"I'd like to live just long enough..." Vir to Morden -The silence as Delenn and Leneir leave the isolation zone in confessions and Lamentations -[This scene!] -G'Kar thanking Delenn and Sheridan then breaking down in the corridor -G'Kar's speech when surrendering in front of the council -Vir and Londo after the death of Cartagia I can't think of many moments for Garibaldi and Franklin, but that was more in the nature of what their characters got to do
@@avoidscul-de-sacs4668 I started watching B5 because a cute receptionist said she was a fan, so I've met a few fans IRL. Always feel like it deserves to be better known though
@@ishoottheyscore8970 I remember few best guotes by Delenn at least best to me: ""All life is transitory, a dream. We all come together in the same place, at the end of time. If I don't see you again here, I will see you in a little while, in a place where no shadows fall.", " "This is Ambassador Delenn of the Minbari. Babylon 5 is under our protection. Withdraw or be destroyed." "Negative. We have authorite here. Do not force us to engage your ship." "Why not? Only one Human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" - best one, "We did what we did because it was right, not to be remembered. History will attend to itself, it always does." so many good quotes
@@avoidscul-de-sacs4668 I watch the complete series at least once a year (sad I know) and still cry like a baby at the end of Sleeping in light (hell, even the music sets me off (Death of a Station I believe the track is called and is reminiscent of the Samuel Barber piece Adagio for Strings)).
Just a little note here: The Earth Force ships had been using the Jump Gate to arrive. When Delenn told them to "Be Somewhere Else" they formed their OWN JUMP POINTS and didn't bother with the Jump Gate! They LITERALLY could not have left faster!!!! XD
well the jump gates are just for going places in hyperspae faster, but its easier to just make your own jump point when the basically invincible battlecruisers are telling you to fuck off
Exiting from hyperspace for Earth ships is a bit of gamble, you don't know exactly where you end up in normal space. The jumpgate gives you precise control of where to exit because it acts as a hyperspace beacon. If you want to surprise a target, jumping in halfway across the solar system is not the best way to do it. Minbari ships are more advanced, so they can pinpoint their exit far more precise.
Mire Furlan has passed beyond The Rim along with Richard Biggs (Franklin) Jerry Doyle (Garibaldi) Andreas Katsulas (G'Kar) Tim Choate (Zathras) Stephen Furst (Vir) Jeff Conaway (Zack Allan) And Michael O'Hare (Sinclair) May They All Rest In Peace, And Their Legacies Shine Bright ✨ They Are Truly Starstuff, And May We All Meet In The Place Where No Shadows Fall
"The flame also reminds us that life is precious as each flame is unique. When it goes out, it's gone forever. And there will never be another quite like it." Sleep forever in light Mira Furlan.
@@carltonharris4474 ah but just think if the humans of the Babylon 5 universe had anything like the Galaxy-class starships from ST:TNG.....I daresay it would be the Minbari running for their lives during that war LOL
@@josephamendolea3431 You miss something: The Babylon 5 Universe knows no shields. The Minbari would simply have to cut throw the neck of the Enterprise and that ship would be history, as the starboard engine would be without any helm control (as the main and the battle bridge would have been cut off). Don't forget, that a single torpedo into the engineering section was able to destroy it in Generations That's the reason why the ships in Babylon 5 are either bulkier and heavier, like Narn cruisers or Minbari ships, or have many cut offs so that the targeting systems cannot lock on, like the White Stars.
@@redshirt5126 loved Marcus and was mad when they decided to kill off his character....he even had the most fearsome warrior of the warrior caste, Neroon's, respect
@@josephamendolea3431 Marcus does sort of come back...if you read the books/comics...not sure if that arc is seen as cannon though as he and she end up on a planet alone to live out thier lives.....wonder if she got her four poster bed
Earth Alliance Captain #1: "Actually, I've just remembered guys, my kid's school play starts in 20 minutes, so, err..." Earth Alliance Captain #2: "Ooh, that reminds me, I've got a dentist appointment..." Earth Alliance Captain #3: "Did I leave the oven on? Better go check... yeah..."
She was a famous Yugoslav actress who had to leave during their wars. This, and the scene where she dissolved the council were personal to her, very personal. JMS always tried to use an actor's life experiences to inform their roles, to be able to get more out of them. He succeeded.
yeah its like most saying that line would give it as much hardman brag attitude as possible, as they talk of crushing and ending their opponents. She drops it like it that for most of the lines, but on "...or be destroyed" its also like she has a sad almost quivering "regretful-to-have-to-be-having-to-kill-them" vibe about it too. Like that tells you itself that what she'd do to em would be SO beyond emphatic that they'd have zero chance in attacking, and that she'd be mourning what effectively would be their mass suicide. Which is perfectly in character with the strength, yet also insight and compassion of a Delenn who learned so much since the 1st fateful Earth/Mimbar encounter. Furlan was incredible.
Again? I've had a crush for 20+ years. So depressing that a convention that used to be in my area had half the cast almost every damn year....except I didn't know such convention existed back then.
@@jamesspring4610 and then they realize somethings wrong they cannot target the minbari ships because they are serious about fighting if that's what must happen
I loved this scene. I always thought though that there was a subtle double threat here wither her "he is behind me" line. Not only was she telling them that she didn't consider them a threat, but the only human who could have been one had her back.
Mira Furlan, Rest In Peace. It just seems the world is falling apart, not changing, coming apart. I'm older and more tired now, so maybe it's just me. Until we all have faces.
If you wish to honor her memory, then face life with the grace and dignity that she chose to face the end with. The world is changing. It doesn't always change the way we want it to. But even at our worst we can still find a light in the darkness.
"Why not?" The delivery of that line is just *PERFECT*. Between this and Ivanova's "I am death incarnate" speech, B5 had the *BEST* "I will DESTROY you" speeches in Sci-Fi.
I absolutely love this epic scene, As gentle and kind as Delenn can be, she's absolutely terrifying when you piss her off or threaten what she holds dear. One of the most epic scenes in the series.
Lisa winn: You can see why President Clarke put a guy like Drake in the Captain's chair. He's arrogant and unbelievably stupid: 3 Minbari cruisers and the White Star (a tough little ship in her own right) show up. He's then asked, rather nicely by a very angry Delenn, to leave...and he tries to argue that his task force 'has the authority here'. Has he forgotten how the Minbari kicked Earth's ass in the Earth/Minbari war?! lol
He could have been just young too. Remember the Minbari surrendered right as they were winning, now only people who fought at the Battle of the Line know something was fishy about it because Earth was losing that fight.
Long before B5, my fiance (and her mom) decided that a first born daughter would be named 'Megan Renee'. Didn't marry, sadly, but after seeing B5, I would have named a daughter 'Megan Delenn'. I've always wondered just how many girls got that name just because of Ms. Furlan's portrayal!
@@jamesspring4610 It is a show that overall still holds up quite well. It's a shame Crusade fizzled out and season 5 was very hit or miss, or the show would've had a much larger fanbase and the recognition it deserves.
sitdowndogbreath Jump gate? Jump GATE? No, my friend, they opened a jump POINT. They didn't even want to hang around for as long as it took to get back to the gate, because that would be a few more precious seconds they'd still be spending in realspace with an angry White Star and three Minbari warships breathing down their necks.
I can just imagine one of the the Earthforce Lieutenants talking to his Captain: "Do we respond, sir?" "How? We can't even beat the Mimbari at harsh language."
I must say that I think Discovery HAS made improvements, since Season One. They toned down the wokeness a LOT (it's still there, sadly), and Season 3 is good, so far.
@@johnpooky84 Wokeness has always been a central theme of Startrek. It had the first interracial kiss on tv, a russian on the bridge during the cold war, Riker fancying an androgynous alien etc. etc. Discovery still... does not get it.. though.
@@TheGrimSqueaky One points out flaws in a society and asks the audience what do they think about it, the other states the flaws and tells the audience what to feel and leave the thinking to someone else.
@@Shadx27 you haven’t watched the original series have you, it is WAY more preachy than discovery. Do I need to bring up the episode with half white half black aliens that ends with the entire bridge crew looking straight at the camera going “racism is bad kids.”
It would appear that the Earthforce fleet has suddenly remembered some urgent, REALLY urgent business many, MANY light years away. Damn but Delenn was awesome and this scene really shows what a badass she can be when she wants to be.
I just loved Delen in this scene here. she may have had a kind and gentle nature for the most part but pissing her off and threatening those she loved was just a horrifyingly bad idea! no scratch that, more like suicidally stupid! as the Klingons on Star Trek would say it is a good day to die
B5 is possibly my favourite Scifi Series, and this scene (for me) is possibly the best in the entire series. (number 2 being Sheridan telling the Shadows and Vorlons to get out of the galaxy)
I hate that this show was so underrated. The writing is by far the best of any show that I know of. Every character had such good writing for them, the delivery of those words was artistic for each person. God this show was so amazing.
Here is a very beautiful, very intelligent, very feminine female character that has no problem being the biggest bad ass when she needs to be. Is she hated for it? Hell no WE ALL LOVE Delenn! This is exactly how you make a bad ass female character, because through her development it just came natural, it was not forced, the audience was not told that you had to like it or you were a misogynist and incel or a toxic fandom. We loved her and B5 because it was well written and had well developed characters and a fantastic story-line. This is without a doubt one of my most favorite scenes.
That's because the internet didn't exist in the same way it does now, there are scenes in Babylon 5 that would piss off incels today, like the fact that Ivanaho is bisexual, or that the woman were shown to be just as capable as the men
Isn't it fun to be able to complain about problems that don't exist? How great your life must be that you have the time to moan about problems that aren't real.
@@chadalpha7983 Ivanova. And nobody cared that she was bi. The show has a modern fanbase of people that weren't even born when it came out and still nobody cares, beyond finding it to be a very sad moment when she tells Delenn that. B5 would never have done a story where Ivanova constantly demeaned Sheridan, saved the day and then was repeatedly told how great she was. That's the issue with how todays entertainment treats female characters in action movies. The portrayals in B5 were very real, the characters had strengths and, more importantly, flaws. B5 was very far from the first or even unique in it's equal respect for female characters. I'd say entertainment back then was decidedly less condescending and insulting to female characters than it is today as a whole.
the issue is they making scifi for 15-6 year old priviledged or at least they think they are girls-teens, having a badass woman in charge that actually worked for it or has the "bona fides" for her position aint enought anymore they want all the "power" with no effort.
While it may be true that many female characters today are written badly, this is also true for male characters. Moreover the simple fact is that a certain crowd today would tear into B5. Especially this scene. “Sheridan had to be saved by his girlfriend! Male heroes cucked once more due to the illuminati-feminist-woke-soros agenda.” Don’t even try to say that wouldn’t be the case.
They ran so fast they didn't even bother going to the jump gate. They just opened their own jump points and left. It's a wonder they didn't crash into each other in their panicked retreat. :D
Tactically it was the best option. You use the jump gate to get in as it powers the transition to normal space. Your jump engines are charged up so you can exit a tactical withdraw at your choosing when you want.
I'd rather risk crashing into someone next to me than have to face her in a fight. Hell, I'd rather just flat out crashing into someone else than risking her even considering a fight with me.
That's rather my point. Discovery is too busy beating you over the head with a political and ideological agenda (never mind how they shat on the fans and the way they're releasing it; half the price of netflix for a single, pretty bad, exclusive?), while The Orville actually captures what made Star Trek great: societal commentary that makes you think about it, wit, and it takes itself _just_ serious enough. That's the point: it's actually a better Star Trek series than the actual Star Trek series in recent years. Hell, some of the episodes are even hitting on the same social issues and trying to make the same points, the difference is it doesn't treat you like you're braindead and need to be told what to think, instead it encourages you TO think.
Too pout it bluntly.... those Mimbari War Cruisers could take on and win against and earth fleet with 12 capital ships.. that had 4... they never would of stood a chance... and we saw that a single Centori warship can attack not only a station as big as Babylon 5 but also its fighters too on own... Earth force ships have only 3 distinct advantages over the other races... maneuverability and speed... they are not the biggest ships or the most powerful... in fact Earth force is father behind then all the other races... save the Dilgar... who were at the same level... but still had artificial Gravity without a spinning section, the only other advantage earth has is the on board AI systems for all their ships.. the Gnarn only have it for their fighters... the century dont use it at all... the minbari dont need it... and well... dont get me started on how screwed everything would pf been if the Vorlons attacked Earth directly...
@@GunGriffin187 actually...while B5's budget didn't show it on-screen...EarthForce destroyers and heavy cruisers were loaded with quite a bit of firepower...firepower enough to severely damage a Sharlin-class warcruiser...if it wasn't for the stealth tech that prevented EarthForce ships from achieving a target lock on Minbari ships that war might not have been so one-sided...cuz if they didn't have that stealth tech an Earthforce destroyer probably would've vaporized a Sharlin
One does not simply watch Severed Dreams. Its power comes from the world building and increasing tension of the previous 2 seasons and it must be approached via them for it to have full impact. I remember when I saw it for the first time, after being totally invested in the story and world built leading up to it. For those few minutes B5 was my world, my life, and everything hung in the balance. Will we ever see si fi like this again?
RIP Entil'Zha. You were the wind that was always calm but fierce when you needed to be. You were a shining beacon of light in dark places. And your voice made me believe in heaven. May you be in the place where no shadows fall
Ambassador Deleen to the rescue :) "Only one Human captain has survived an encounter with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me, you are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else."
From episode Severed Dreams in season 3 :) I have for now B5 season 1-4 on DVD disc, but need season 5 for my collection and the movies too :) That shop here in my hometown I bought B5 season 1-4 from had not B5 season 5 and the movies in the store, but I still will drop my that shop to check if someone not want to have that season anymore :) I don't want to download that season anymore, but only buy on shops etc :)
As EPIC as this scene is, I respected her even more at the conclusion of the Minbari civil war, where she acknowledges that the Warrior Caste is winning and then just flat out denies the assumption that this means they get to be in charge. It was so ballsy, politically brilliant and matter of fact that she essentially managed to bludgeon a vastly superior force into submission mere seconds after unconditionally surrendering to them with nothing but the threat of making their leader look bad to do it.
She had the essential support of Neroon, but yes, it was her sheer force of personality that overwhelmed Shakiri. Neroon pointing out Shakiri's words that life and death were two sides of the same coin, neither to be preferred over the other which showed the utter contempt Shakiri had for his own people and the hypocrisy inherent in his actions. May there be a place set aside for Delenn right beside the place set aside for Neroon.
@@heinleinreader Neroon ended up being one of favourite characters and I really regretted not seeing more of him and Delen together, they was and would of been an awesome team, and low betide anyone who tried to hurt the other because the wrath would know no mercy. I could of seen Neroon being extremely protective of Delen if he had lived not just as someone he truly respects but as someone he knows truly serves their people in there heart. Neroon for all his faults was a good man when it counted and had and was a true protector and servant of his people.
@@SpielkindFR Quite probably you are. She was fulfilling the role set aside for her in prophesy by Valenn. Were you not aware of that? And she paid her penance for that decision a thousand times over. But yeah, fixate on one wrong decision and grind on that until the end of the universe. That is the mentality of a small child. If that is the perception you want to give people of yourself, that is your choice. I would rather accept the heartfelt contrition she expressed and the many ways she has fought to make up for that one wrong choice she was destined to make, rather than blame one person for the collective actions of her entire race. You can continue to be the child you told us you are, or you can behave as a grown-up and accept that you too have made poor choices. Does that make you responsible for all the evil in the world today? Think about that you anonymous hate monger. And someone who criticizes anonymously is hardly a credible source for justifiable complaints.
@@fozzy1004 I agree with you. There should be a fifty foot tall statue of Neroon somewhere in the capital city. I always saw him as the potential he carried within. He seemed a warrior with some degree of reason. That was how Delenn described the Shai Alit as well. Since Neroon was his second, it is hardly surprising that he would fit the same mold. But he became so much more than he began as. I would like to meet the person his spirit came to occupy in the next generation. I would hope that this person became the same sort of person Neroon was. Neroon also developed a great rapport, it would seem, with Marcus Cole. I would have liked to see more of that friendship established.
The galaxy's most awesome girlfriend! I just LOVE when Delenn gets into one of her militant modes. The Minbari don't start fights, but if you pick one with them be prepared for a smackdown because they do NOT play games!
@@Lightingwarrior To be fair though a second Earth-Minbari war might not have been quite as one-sided as the last one....as the only reason it was so one-sided to begin with was the fact that Earth ships couldn't lock onto Minbari ones due to the stealth tech but in the time afterwards I'm sure Earth probably developed a countermeasure against that....but even in the first war....even without being able to achieve a target lock Earth ships still had enough firepower to severely damage, if not outright destroy, a Minbari Sharlin-class warcruiser...although I'm sure Minbari warcruisers still retained the ability to cut through the armor on EA ships like hot knives through butter...so at best it would've likely been a war of attrition depending on who fires first in any subsequent engagements
Few things as wonderful as a woman with an Eastern Europeans accent, with superior starships under her command. Laying down the law. DELENN!! Gloriana Regina!
Not my F*cking Blood Pressure that's for sure! Servalan was my teenage fantasy for years (I hit puberty right about the time Blake's 7 hit the TV screens) and Delenn's just as hot! In fact thinking about both of them at the same time is dang........ (several minutes pass during which ice cold shower water is heard running) .... erous.
Despite all the firepower they brought, when those three Minbari war cruisers and the White Star showed up, it was over for Earthforce :P One of the best "fuck off or die" scenes in sci-fi history. Awesome Delenn!!!
Also logical, remember, the War Cruisers were most likely armed and ready - meaning their cloaks were engaged. When they realised this, they made a half hearted attempt to get them to leave before retreating. Remember, if all had gone to plan, there should have been two squadrons of capital ships at B5 plus the station under their control. The first squadron was obliterated so the second one had no chance
Well, they remembered the history books when the Minbari almost exterminated the entire human race without breaking in sweat, and indeed the only human captain who ever managed to survive, let alone win, an engagement with a Minbari warship, was on their side. The only rational decision is to turn around and piss off while you still have a ship to fly.
Absolutely my favorite scene from the entire series run. Trekkers and Star Wars lovers should warch this series in its entirety. It is great science fiction and is worthy of being recognized as such.
I completely agree, as a lover of Star Trek, Wars and Gate, B5, Doctor Who, Red Dwarf, The Expanse and many other Science Fiction shows B5 is definately one of the best, it was basicly Game of Thrones in space, and they did it in the mid 90s
That is exactly what I told Bruce Boxleitner last weekend when I was getting his autograph at my town's annual sci-fi/comic/anime convention. He said the broadcast time slots for B5 in those years around the country were not that great.
I like the scene in Comes the Inquisitor when she confronts Sebastian about the fact that if she falls, another will take her place, and another, and another. That whole scene was another display of the inner might and character of Delenn.
If I remember, this is the second time this episode that Delenn has her "Don't mess with me" face on. The first is 'moving' the guard out of the way so she can get into the Grey Council room.
I served the Council for sixteen cycles. I was the chosen of Dukhat to replace him! I held him when he died! His blood is on my hands, his spirit in my eyes, his word on my lips! You will step aside in his name and mine, or-in Valen's name-I will tear this ship apart with my bare hands until I find them! Move aside!
Jean Williams Pay close attention; they generated their own jump point. Because powering up the gate would've taken longer, and cut into their all-important running away time. :D
Can you blame them? When the Minbari attacked Proxima during the war, 4 Minbari war cruisers destroyed 40 Earth warships in just 14 seconds, not liking the 3 against 4 odds there.
Still one of the most powerful and awesome moments I have ever seen 🥰 Mira played her character with style and power 🥰 You will be missed Mira - Thank you so much 😇
To hear " modern " actresses say they were the pioneers of strong female leads...lol what a joke. Mira's Delenn, now THAT is how you do a proper badass heroine!
This is the best line in the show. Mira made you feel like this is real. Amazing talent from Mira she made the series truly great. Sorry she is no longer with us but her gift lives on with us. B5 was greater because of her character and what she made of that character. God bless her for her gift to us. She will forever live in our hearts.❤
I remember going to a Babylon 5 convention in London in 1996. I got to meet Mira at an autograph session. I complimented her on this speech. She was very gracious. Just like Delenn. What a great series and a great set of characters. RIP. ❤
Trivia: there was no auditory response by the humans, as the sound of a bunch of Earthforce captains explosively shitting themselves would've upped the rating on the episode.
Remember that this was shown, it was with parents with kids in mind. How would you answer: "Mommy, why do the big ships making the same noise when dad is in the potty?"
This has still got to be one of the coolest lines of all time. I actually watched this very episode last night with my girlfriend who is watching the series for the first time. Her reaction was the same as mine always has and still is: WOW!
The first season was shaky at best. I didn't start watching until Boxleitner came on originally. There are more than a few cringy episodes throughout the series (grey 17 is missing, anyone?), but as you say the overarching story makes up for them.
A true moment of feminine badassery that will stand forever. And now another great soul has left us, to explore beyond the Rim. RIP Mira Furlan. We live for the One, we die for the One. Entil'zha veni, in Valen's name.
"I am a Ranger." "We walk in the dark places no others will enter." "We stand on the bridge, and no one may pass." "We live for the One, we die for the One"
In Indian mythology, the Goddess has three aspects, gentle (Pavarti ), angry/militant (Durga), and destroyer of the universe (Kali-ma). Looks like Delenn is already in the second aspect, leaning towards the third!
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Rest in peace, Mira, in the place where no shadows fall.
Amen
Another B5 cast member who won’t be forgotten …..
GNU Mira
Amen
the way she says..... WHY NOT, ONLY ONE CAPTAIN SURVIVED BATTLE WITH THE MIMBARI... HE IS BEHIND ME:.... YOU ARE IN FRONT OF ME :D
I didn’t know she died. She will be missed
She now joined Jeffrey Sinclair, Michael Garibaldi, Dr. Stephan Franklin, GKar, Vir Cotto, Zak Allan and Zathras (Zathras, not Zathras) beyond the rim. A toast. To…absent friends. In memory still bright!
A toast! *raisesglass*
Dont forget about Trevor Goddard and Efrem Zimbalist Jr.
*Raises glass* In Valen's name. Itzail'zha Saeti.
Raises drink.
Raises glass.
"...If you value your lives, be somewhere else!"
"So either President Clark kills us or the scary Minbari lady does. ...The hell with this. We're jumping over to Star Trek and spending a week on Risa."
You fool! Bad stuff always happens when people go to Risa!
The hell with that. I'm off to Dagobah....
@@zahrans Say hi to the orphaned cannibals for me!
Screw President Clark I'm defecting to Babylon 5
"Where's General Hague?"
"General Hague is doing Deep Space 9. It seems he was double-booked by his agent and there was nothing to be done."
"Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. And sometimes, when we're in the mood, he is under me."
Whoo
hoo!!
🤣
LOL
That made me laugh so hard
..or on top of me.
Rest In Peace Mira Furlan. So heartbroken to hear about her passing.
*weeeeeps* Hell . Who is still alive of them? Bruce and Claudia and Peter? FK.
She's gonna be hella cool starstuff now.
Shortly before I found out, Bruce Boxleitner tweeted a pic of Mira laughing. And I thought, 'oh, that's sweet' and then, I found out why he probably tweeted that. I had missed the previous tweet he'd sent about her passing in my timeline.
Rest In Peace. You will be remembered always... 😢
Well that news just ruined my evening. This series (one of the best sci-fi series IMO) has lost so many of it's excellent cast members.
THE SINGLE most glorious badass moment in all of sci-fi ladies and gentlemen. "Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" Still gives me the chills and feels👍😎
...it's in the top two, with this one - th-cam.com/video/4_nKmC5oJWE/w-d-xo.html
They chose somewhere else.
Between this and "This council should be BROKEN (*snaps the staff*)... as. was. prophesied." you DEFINITELY do not want to get on Delenn's bad side! :D
Best ever
VERY GOOD LINE INDEED!
I would compare it to Benjamin Sisko's closing monologue in "In the Pale Moonlight".
Best? Probably depends on which show one likes better.
"Do not force us to engage your ship". Best response ever: "Why not?"
No Best Response Is "If you value your lives Be Somewhere Else"
I know the "Be somewhere else" gets all the fame, but I think this is even better. She just is so incredulous.
The "Why not?" part is important as well. Delenn is saying "Give it your best shot. You know what will happen if you do."
I love the WHY NOT.
Such a powerful statement. The rest is just drawing a picture for the slow opponents.
We have the numbers.
We have bigger ships.
We have stronger ships.
She is the bad ass at the bar being challenged by the guy who talks big but clearly backs down when stood up to.
@@vernonjackson3435 Why not is the actual response, and it is great. Be Somewhere else is the DARE/ORDER and it's the Best...
Captain to helmsman. Engage the "be somewhere else engines"
Forever to be referred to as the "Brown Sector Maneuver".
@@richardm3023: Why not both? 'Rig ship for running brown, heading 180, get (the) lost drive online. Engage.'
Lol!!!!!!!!!
Something tells me the helmsman was already plotting the 'get the hell out of here' cords the moment those Minbari ships appeared. I know I sure as hell would've!
@@Suisfonia Probably before that, even. They'd just come out of hyper to find that the fleet they were supposed to reinforce had been reduced to clouds of gas and burning wreckage. That's the kind of discovery that leads to a rapid re-evaluation of the tactical situation...
RIP Mira. Has to be one the strongest and most passionate portrayal of a female hero I've ever seen in a sci fi show or any show. Her compassion was truly epic..its so sad she died so young. I'll never forget Delenn and Mira
could they could they?
Don't forget her equally great roll as Danielle Roussequ in Lost.
I loved what she said there. "Only one human has survived direct confrontation with a Minbari ship. He is behind me, you are in front of me. If you value your lives, be elsewhere." That may be one of the strongest single speeches I have heard given by a female lead character in any movie or series ever. And it was not the only one that she had. I liked what she finally said to the Inquisitor, Sebastian. And my favorite Sheridan line was the one where he says he was dead, but he is feeling much better now.
Right alongside Ellen Ripley. The GOATs….
The power of that statement is breathtaking.
This is the point Hollywood has forgotten. We’ve always adored strong independent women. What we don’t like are Mary Sues who are just bad cardboard cutouts with no personality. Delenn was complicated and beautiful she was soft and kind, and an absolute stone cold warrior. We laughed and cried and cheered for her. Mira brought her to life and made her extraordinary.
@ajs1031
I understand Marcus completely...
People defined by their actions instead of who or what they are. What a novel concept.
Don't forget vulnerable and proud, for example after She gained hair, it was a problem, how to clean it and look after it. The only person She could trust was Susan. th-cam.com/video/s9UJOgC0Qjk/w-d-xo.html
Actually, the religious caste were some of the finest warriors in Minbari culture. They taught hand to hand battle tactics to the warrior caste.
Agree. She honestly can kick your ass, then ask you for forgiveness for kicking your ass.
Note to all modern sci-fi and fantasy writers, this is how a strong female character is written.
Damn right
... if you want the female readers to believe that they need to act strong in the same way male action heros did in the 80s.
If you just let the female heroes act the same way as male heroes thats neither original nor insightful writing, but just lazy.
Tbh the Expanse has a few strong female characters who are not mary sues.
Col Kira excepted
@@idoitonastick8689 it got me so effing mad
You can see Sheridan internallly screaming "That's my girlfriend!"
Man, that series is decades old and I have seen this scene more times than I can count, and it still gives me goosebumps every time.
Every time I see it, it reminds me of that meme where they say men only want one thing. Lol, this was her most badass line in the whole damn series.
Me too
I do not know when it will be happening but the original creators are going to bring it back re-imagined for now.
Because it’s a timeless masterpiece of a show. It will never age… and btw… a reboot would be sacrilege!
@ZeitdiebX agreed, it will be updated for "modern audiences", plus you just don't have the same small screen acting ability that all these actors do.
Tell me who would you replace the dynamic duo of Londo and G'Kar? Character or actor wise!
RIP Mira. She joined Richard Briggs, Stephen Furst, Andreas Katsulas, Jerry Doyle and Jeff Conway beyond the rim. May she watch on us from there and thank you for all moments in Babylon 5 and Lost. Every time B5 actor died it was hit, but this, this was biggest and strongest hit to me. Delenn, Susanova and Sheridan were best characters to me in B5, but she was Number 1.
@@avoidscul-de-sacs4668 It's a show with so many amazing moments, and so many of them now are featuring people gone too soon:
-"DEAD. DEAD! DEAD!" - G'Kar to Vir
-"I'd like to live just long enough..." Vir to Morden
-The silence as Delenn and Leneir leave the isolation zone in confessions and Lamentations
-[This scene!]
-G'Kar thanking Delenn and Sheridan then breaking down in the corridor
-G'Kar's speech when surrendering in front of the council
-Vir and Londo after the death of Cartagia
I can't think of many moments for Garibaldi and Franklin, but that was more in the nature of what their characters got to do
@@avoidscul-de-sacs4668 I started watching B5 because a cute receptionist said she was a fan, so I've met a few fans IRL. Always feel like it deserves to be better known though
@@ishoottheyscore8970 I remember few best guotes by Delenn at least best to me: ""All life is transitory, a dream. We all come together in the same place, at the end of time. If I don't see you again here, I will see you in a little while, in a place where no shadows fall.", " "This is Ambassador Delenn of the Minbari. Babylon 5 is under our protection. Withdraw or be destroyed."
"Negative. We have authorite here. Do not force us to engage your ship."
"Why not? Only one Human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" - best one, "We did what we did because it was right, not to be remembered. History will attend to itself, it always does." so many good quotes
Dont forget about Trevor Goddard and Efrem Zimbalist Jr.
@@avoidscul-de-sacs4668 I watch the complete series at least once a year (sad I know) and still cry like a baby at the end of Sleeping in light (hell, even the music sets me off (Death of a Station I believe the track is called and is reminiscent of the Samuel Barber piece Adagio for Strings)).
The best "fuck around and find out" moment.
Ever
Just a little note here: The Earth Force ships had been using the Jump Gate to arrive. When Delenn told them to "Be Somewhere Else" they formed their OWN JUMP POINTS and didn't bother with the Jump Gate!
They LITERALLY could not have left faster!!!! XD
well the jump gates are just for going places in hyperspae faster, but its easier to just make your own jump point when the basically invincible battlecruisers are telling you to fuck off
Most likely the enemy ships used the jump gate to arrive because they wanted full power available to their weapon systems.
yea and then they went from full power to brown shorts power.
Also jump engines need time to recharge...could not have jumped in on their own power, then jumped out right away.
Exiting from hyperspace for Earth ships is a bit of gamble, you don't know exactly where you end up in normal space. The jumpgate gives you precise control of where to exit because it acts as a hyperspace beacon. If you want to surprise a target, jumping in halfway across the solar system is not the best way to do it.
Minbari ships are more advanced, so they can pinpoint their exit far more precise.
This and Vir telling Mr. Morden exactly what he wants are among the best moments in B5.
agreed
That was Stephen Furst's finest hour. He was the perfect Vir.
The funny part was seeing Vir get his wish. Fucking hilarious.
Yes. This moment and Vir telling off Mr. Morden are the best in the series.
That wave is his, priceless. That must have irritated Mr Morden to no end.
Mire Furlan has passed beyond The Rim along with
Richard Biggs (Franklin)
Jerry Doyle (Garibaldi)
Andreas Katsulas (G'Kar)
Tim Choate (Zathras)
Stephen Furst (Vir)
Jeff Conaway (Zack Allan)
And
Michael O'Hare (Sinclair)
May They All Rest In Peace, And Their Legacies Shine Bright ✨
They Are Truly Starstuff, And May We All Meet In The Place Where No Shadows Fall
Stay safe Bruce, Andrea, Patricia, Billy, Melissa, and anyone and everyone else.
Dont forget about Trevor Goddard and Efrem Zimbalist Jr. R. I. P.
Don't forget Andreas Katsulas also played commander tomalak on Star Trek TNG
"This is Ambassador Delenn of the Minbari. Babylon 5 is under our protection. Withdraw...or be destroyed." Damn delenn takes no prisoners
Well, she was the deciding vote to start the Minbari/Earth War.
"The flame also reminds us that life is precious as each flame is unique. When it goes out, it's gone forever. And there will never be another quite like it."
Sleep forever in light Mira Furlan.
Probably the best get-lost-or-die scene in sci-fi history.
"Get-lost-or-die" speech... Brilliant! Request permission to steal, please.
@@carltonharris4474 ah but just think if the humans of the Babylon 5 universe had anything like the Galaxy-class starships from ST:TNG.....I daresay it would be the Minbari running for their lives during that war LOL
Quite possibly in all film history... Although the Outlaw Josie Wales "You gonna draw those guns, or whistle Dixie" gets close...
@@josephamendolea3431 You miss something: The Babylon 5 Universe knows no shields. The Minbari would simply have to cut throw the neck of the Enterprise and that ship would be history, as the starboard engine would be without any helm control (as the main and the battle bridge would have been cut off). Don't forget, that a single torpedo into the engineering section was able to destroy it in Generations
That's the reason why the ships in Babylon 5 are either bulkier and heavier, like Narn cruisers or Minbari ships, or have many cut offs so that the targeting systems cannot lock on, like the White Stars.
Ladies and Gentleman..this is the definition of speak softly but carry a large fighting pike
David K. "you can can alwase get more from people with a kind word and a 2X4 then you can with a kind word."
@@redshirt5126 loved Marcus and was mad when they decided to kill off his character....he even had the most fearsome warrior of the warrior caste, Neroon's, respect
@@josephamendolea3431 Marcus does sort of come back...if you read the books/comics...not sure if that arc is seen as cannon though as he and she end up on a planet alone to live out thier lives.....wonder if she got her four poster bed
Earth Alliance Captain #1:
"Actually, I've just remembered guys, my kid's school play starts in 20 minutes, so, err..."
Earth Alliance Captain #2:
"Ooh, that reminds me, I've got a dentist appointment..."
Earth Alliance Captain #3:
"Did I leave the oven on? Better go check... yeah..."
LOL! :)
you made me fall out of my chair laughing. well done sir
"I just remembered about that booking I had for DS9 today"
1+2 made me smile but three made me burst out laughing. oh jeah
those are all good cover stories right next to "I don't wanna get my ass fried so I'm getting the hell outta here!"
According to JMS the fire that wrote into the Delenn character was exactly what he saw in Mira Furlan. RIP and fair winds.
She was a famous Yugoslav actress who had to leave during their wars. This, and the scene where she dissolved the council were personal to her, very personal. JMS always tried to use an actor's life experiences to inform their roles, to be able to get more out of them. He succeeded.
"...or be destroyed."
There's just something about the way Mira articulates those few words that gives me chills. It's so absolutely implacable.
yeah its like most saying that line would give it as much hardman brag attitude as possible, as they talk of crushing and ending their opponents. She drops it like it that for most of the lines, but on "...or be destroyed" its also like she has a sad almost quivering "regretful-to-have-to-be-having-to-kill-them" vibe about it too. Like that tells you itself that what she'd do to em would be SO beyond emphatic that they'd have zero chance in attacking, and that she'd be mourning what effectively would be their mass suicide. Which is perfectly in character with the strength, yet also insight and compassion of a Delenn who learned so much since the 1st fateful Earth/Mimbar encounter. Furlan was incredible.
One of the best lines in the whole series.
I never tire of seeing that scene the EarthForce ships knew they were severely outmatched
@@stevefreeman9265agreed against those ships might as well turn up in transport shuttle.
Exactly
And just like that, I have a crush on Mira Furlan all over again.
Again? I've had a crush for 20+ years. So depressing that a convention that used to be in my area had half the cast almost every damn year....except I didn't know such convention existed back then.
I managed to get her autograph at Telford just before the COVID19 shutdown :)
lol
Yep
"Do not force us to engage your ship"
"Why not?"
BEST LINE EVER!!
OH NO
I love her tone and her expression when she says it: if you think I am bluffing....you are welcome to test that.
@@jamesspring4610 and then they realize somethings wrong they cannot target the minbari ships because they are serious about fighting if that's what must happen
That "why not" is practically the textbook definition of a 'fuck you' line. Absolutely glorious.
HOLY-- 124 people found me funny!?!??? How???
I loved this scene. I always thought though that there was a subtle double threat here wither her "he is behind me" line.
Not only was she telling them that she didn't consider them a threat, but the only human who could have been one had her back.
Yeah the scene is epic a huge flex one of the best flexes I’ve seen to date!
Mira Furlan, Rest In Peace. It just seems the world is falling apart, not changing, coming apart. I'm older and more tired now, so maybe it's just me. Until we all have faces.
I am here for the reason you were here. We will meet her again, I am sure. Have faith, we will come through this.
If you wish to honor her memory, then face life with the grace and dignity that she chose to face the end with.
The world is changing. It doesn't always change the way we want it to. But even at our worst we can still find a light in the darkness.
Delenn was absolutely phenomenal.
"Why not?" The delivery of that line is just *PERFECT*. Between this and Ivanova's "I am death incarnate" speech, B5 had the *BEST* "I will DESTROY you" speeches in Sci-Fi.
Anonymous Freak not to mention women who are bad ass AF without the writing getting all sjw or being Mary sues.
And then there's Londo's, "Now that you mention it...."
Londo's is the best. Hands down xD
With the possible exception of Vir's "I hope I live just long enough..."
christosvoskresye nah, Londo's best is clearly the "and because I have poisoned your drink" speach
Yep, this is one of the best - and I also like the subtle hint that the Earthforce commanders are not Sheridan's equals.
When Delenn has THAT look on her face ... the smartest thing you can do is *NOT BE THERE.*
Forget Ivanova... THIS lady is DEATH INCARNATE :D
I'm sure Ivanova passed that title onto Delenn after that. ;-)
It wasn't just anger. It was also a look of maximum focus. Without a word, she is also telling you, "I will complete this".
Well, she IS a Warrior Priest.
I absolutely love this epic scene, As gentle and kind as Delenn can be, she's absolutely terrifying when you piss her off or threaten what she holds dear. One of the most epic scenes in the series.
Lisa winn: You can see why President Clarke put a guy like Drake in the Captain's chair. He's arrogant and unbelievably stupid: 3 Minbari cruisers and the White Star (a tough little ship in her own right) show up. He's then asked, rather nicely by a very angry Delenn, to leave...and he tries to argue that his task force 'has the authority here'. Has he forgotten how the Minbari kicked Earth's ass in the Earth/Minbari war?! lol
He could have been just young too. Remember the Minbari surrendered right as they were winning, now only people who fought at the Battle of the Line know something was fishy about it because Earth was losing that fight.
This is one of my favorite scenes along as the great "I'm sorry scene" when Sheridan is practicing an apology to the Centauri.
What if the Omegas had two Nova Dreanoughts with them instead?
Nova Dreadnoughts are less armored than Omegas, the Nova is the older ship of the two.
Best line from the strongest female sci-fi character ever!!! I named my daughter Delenn..... she couldn't be prouder!!!!
Well... there's Ellen Ripley. Who is also pretty far up on that list.
Long before B5, my fiance (and her mom) decided that a first born daughter would be named 'Megan Renee'. Didn't marry, sadly, but after seeing B5, I would have named a daughter 'Megan Delenn'. I've always wondered just how many girls got that name just because of Ms. Furlan's portrayal!
well done!
Every bit as kickass cool even in 2019.
Totally agree. I watched the full episode recently, as well as "Ceremonies Of Light And Dark". Still as good as when I watched it on TV.
@@jamesspring4610 It is a show that overall still holds up quite well.
It's a shame Crusade fizzled out and season 5 was very hit or miss, or the show would've had a much larger fanbase and the recognition it deserves.
2020 and yes
Well, the collective Earth captains' response shows why that area of space was designated "Brown Sector".
Brown Sector actually referred to a part of B5 itself, but your comment is fitting none the less :-)
"bring me my brown pants!"
More like brown streak back to the jumpgate.
Daniel Bradford ....LMAO
sitdowndogbreath Jump gate? Jump GATE? No, my friend, they opened a jump POINT. They didn't even want to hang around for as long as it took to get back to the gate, because that would be a few more precious seconds they'd still be spending in realspace with an angry White Star and three Minbari warships breathing down their necks.
He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your life, be somewhere else.
Epic !!
one of the best lines ever!!!!
I loved how quick they got out of there!
I can just imagine one of the the Earthforce Lieutenants talking to his Captain:
"Do we respond, sir?"
"How? We can't even beat the Mimbari at harsh language."
+Ameha K yes when your girlfriend pulls u out of a dirty situation lol xD
Delenn delivered it looking like the Queen on her throne.
Perfect!
Dear writers of Star Trek Discovery, this is how you write a science-fiction show.
I must say that I think Discovery HAS made improvements, since Season One. They toned down the wokeness a LOT (it's still there, sadly), and Season 3 is good, so far.
@@johnpooky84 Wokeness has always been a central theme of Startrek. It had the first interracial kiss on tv, a russian on the bridge during the cold war, Riker fancying an androgynous alien etc. etc.
Discovery still... does not get it.. though.
@@TheGrimSqueaky One points out flaws in a society and asks the audience what do they think about it, the other states the flaws and tells the audience what to feel and leave the thinking to someone else.
@@johnpooky84 "Wokeness" was never Discovery's problem. Abysmal writing was.
@@Shadx27 you haven’t watched the original series have you, it is WAY more preachy than discovery. Do I need to bring up the episode with half white half black aliens that ends with the entire bridge crew looking straight at the camera going “racism is bad kids.”
R.I.P. Mira Furlan. You have gone beyond the rim. But will always be missed.
We live for the One, we die for the One.
It would appear that the Earthforce fleet has suddenly remembered some urgent, REALLY urgent business many, MANY light years away. Damn but Delenn was awesome and this scene really shows what a badass she can be when she wants to be.
This is the best scene in the whole series in my opinion, she kicks ass!
MrPeterpiper1969 really urgent… in the byenow sector :)
I just loved Delen in this scene here. she may have had a kind and gentle nature for the most part but pissing her off and threatening those she loved was just a horrifyingly bad idea! no scratch that, more like suicidally stupid! as the Klingons on Star Trek would say it is a good day to die
+Michael Murdoch Fortunately for the Earthforce fleet all the Klingons were hanging out in the Star Trek universe.
B5 is possibly my favourite Scifi Series, and this scene (for me) is possibly the best in the entire series. (number 2 being Sheridan telling the Shadows and Vorlons to get out of the galaxy)
After all these years, it STILL holds up. Love that show.
I hate that this show was so underrated. The writing is by far the best of any show that I know of. Every character had such good writing for them, the delivery of those words was artistic for each person. God this show was so amazing.
R.I.P. Mira Furlan. We live for the One.... 😢
Here is a very beautiful, very intelligent, very feminine female character that has no problem being the biggest bad ass when she needs to be. Is she hated for it? Hell no WE ALL LOVE Delenn! This is exactly how you make a bad ass female character, because through her development it just came natural, it was not forced, the audience was not told that you had to like it or you were a misogynist and incel or a toxic fandom. We loved her and B5 because it was well written and had well developed characters and a fantastic story-line. This is without a doubt one of my most favorite scenes.
That's because the internet didn't exist in the same way it does now, there are scenes in Babylon 5 that would piss off incels today, like the fact that Ivanaho is bisexual, or that the woman were shown to be just as capable as the men
Isn't it fun to be able to complain about problems that don't exist? How great your life must be that you have the time to moan about problems that aren't real.
@@chadalpha7983 Ivanova. And nobody cared that she was bi. The show has a modern fanbase of people that weren't even born when it came out and still nobody cares, beyond finding it to be a very sad moment when she tells Delenn that.
B5 would never have done a story where Ivanova constantly demeaned Sheridan, saved the day and then was repeatedly told how great she was. That's the issue with how todays entertainment treats female characters in action movies. The portrayals in B5 were very real, the characters had strengths and, more importantly, flaws. B5 was very far from the first or even unique in it's equal respect for female characters. I'd say entertainment back then was decidedly less condescending and insulting to female characters than it is today as a whole.
the issue is they making scifi for 15-6 year old priviledged or at least they think they are girls-teens,
having a badass woman in charge that actually worked for it or has the "bona fides" for her position aint enought anymore
they want all the "power" with no effort.
While it may be true that many female characters today are written badly, this is also true for male characters.
Moreover the simple fact is that a certain crowd today would tear into B5. Especially this scene.
“Sheridan had to be saved by his girlfriend! Male heroes cucked once more due to the illuminati-feminist-woke-soros agenda.”
Don’t even try to say that wouldn’t be the case.
"If you value your life, be somewhere else." Short, sweet, to the point. I love it!
cjack56 If Only, If Only! WOW!!!
Yup. It's right up there with Ivanovas 'I am death incarnate' speech :D
They ran so fast they didn't even bother going to the jump gate. They just opened their own jump points and left. It's a wonder they didn't crash into each other in their panicked retreat. :D
Executing "getting the hell out of here" maneuver!
@@ZlothZloth Declaring a "brown alert". :p
Tactically it was the best option. You use the jump gate to get in as it powers the transition to normal space.
Your jump engines are charged up so you can exit a tactical withdraw at your choosing when you want.
I'd rather risk crashing into someone next to me than have to face her in a fight. Hell, I'd rather just flat out crashing into someone else than risking her even considering a fight with me.
Note to Star Trek Discovery. This is how you write a scifi show with action.
50 thumbs up!!
Shane Brannon I am however really tired with all this discovery bashing, go bash OroVille instead
Why bash the orville? it's a better star trek series than the recent star trek series...
I don't bash Oroville or Discovery. But Discovery is Star Trek, Orovile is not.
That's rather my point. Discovery is too busy beating you over the head with a political and ideological agenda (never mind how they shat on the fans and the way they're releasing it; half the price of netflix for a single, pretty bad, exclusive?), while The Orville actually captures what made Star Trek great: societal commentary that makes you think about it, wit, and it takes itself _just_ serious enough. That's the point: it's actually a better Star Trek series than the actual Star Trek series in recent years. Hell, some of the episodes are even hitting on the same social issues and trying to make the same points, the difference is it doesn't treat you like you're braindead and need to be told what to think, instead it encourages you TO think.
RIP Satai Delenn. I am Grey. I stand between the candle and the star. We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light.
In memory still bright. RIP Mira Furlan.
We live for the One, we die for the One.
Those Minbari ships aren't an attack force, they're a firing squad.
but they're ALL loaded.
Too pout it bluntly.... those Mimbari War Cruisers could take on and win against and earth fleet with 12 capital ships.. that had 4... they never would of stood a chance... and we saw that a single Centori warship can attack not only a station as big as Babylon 5 but also its fighters too on own... Earth force ships have only 3 distinct advantages over the other races... maneuverability and speed... they are not the biggest ships or the most powerful... in fact Earth force is father behind then all the other races... save the Dilgar... who were at the same level... but still had artificial Gravity without a spinning section, the only other advantage earth has is the on board AI systems for all their ships.. the Gnarn only have it for their fighters... the century dont use it at all... the minbari dont need it... and well... dont get me started on how screwed everything would pf been if the Vorlons attacked Earth directly...
@@GunGriffin187 actually...while B5's budget didn't show it on-screen...EarthForce destroyers and heavy cruisers were loaded with quite a bit of firepower...firepower enough to severely damage a Sharlin-class warcruiser...if it wasn't for the stealth tech that prevented EarthForce ships from achieving a target lock on Minbari ships that war might not have been so one-sided...cuz if they didn't have that stealth tech an Earthforce destroyer probably would've vaporized a Sharlin
DAMN SKIPPY
They can't be tracked by earth technology, cloaked almost. Yeah, better run, she was being kind and giving you a way out.
Earth Force Captain " Set course for Somewhere Else NOW ! " and then noped out !
Well, Siberia looks kind of nice. And nobody really wants it. 🤣
Best scene in the entire Babylon 5 history. What an emotional roller-coaster that episode was, best sci-fi episode ever produced!
What episode was it?
Calendyr , I always preferred Sheridan’s “apology.”
Severed Dreams- Season 3
Yeah, such a great episode, a very worthy winner of the Hugo Award!
One does not simply watch Severed Dreams. Its power comes from the world building and increasing tension of the previous 2 seasons and it must be approached via them for it to have full impact. I remember when I saw it for the first time, after being totally invested in the story and world built leading up to it. For those few minutes B5 was my world, my life, and everything hung in the balance. Will we ever see si fi like this again?
All the Captain's are probably just like "Damn it, Sheridan! Getting your wife/girlfriend and her friends involved?! Seriously?!"
My friends in Military Intel tell me that the end result- achieving your goal- is all that matters.
She is gone beyond the Rim, to the Place Where No Shadows Fall. Farewell, Mira. Sleep in Light.
RIP Entil'Zha. You were the wind that was always calm but fierce when you needed to be. You were a shining beacon of light in dark places. And your voice made me believe in heaven. May you be in the place where no shadows fall
THE most badass line ever delivered in any movie. Ever.
Thank you Mira, rest in peace.
Ambassador Deleen to the rescue :) "Only one Human captain has survived an encounter with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me, you are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else."
From episode Severed Dreams in season 3 :) I have for now B5 season 1-4 on DVD disc, but need season 5 for my collection and the movies too :) That shop here in my hometown I bought B5 season 1-4 from had not B5 season 5 and the movies in the store, but I still will drop my that shop to check if someone not want to have that season anymore :) I don't want to download that season anymore, but only buy on shops etc :)
Try Amazon if you have not gotten it yet.
This is right up there with Ivonava's "God sent me" speech.
As EPIC as this scene is, I respected her even more at the conclusion of the Minbari civil war, where she acknowledges that the Warrior Caste is winning and then just flat out denies the assumption that this means they get to be in charge. It was so ballsy, politically brilliant and matter of fact that she essentially managed to bludgeon a vastly superior force into submission mere seconds after unconditionally surrendering to them with nothing but the threat of making their leader look bad to do it.
She had the essential support of Neroon, but yes, it was her sheer force of personality that overwhelmed Shakiri. Neroon pointing out Shakiri's words that life and death were two sides of the same coin, neither to be preferred over the other which showed the utter contempt Shakiri had for his own people and the hypocrisy inherent in his actions. May there be a place set aside for Delenn right beside the place set aside for Neroon.
Or that time she ordered the genocide of the entire human race.
Seriously, am I the only one who thinks Delenn was a horrible person?
@@heinleinreader Neroon ended up being one of favourite characters and I really regretted not seeing more of him and Delen together, they was and would of been an awesome team, and low betide anyone who tried to hurt the other because the wrath would know no mercy. I could of seen Neroon being extremely protective of Delen if he had lived not just as someone he truly respects but as someone he knows truly serves their people in there heart. Neroon for all his faults was a good man when it counted and had and was a true protector and servant of his people.
@@SpielkindFR Quite probably you are. She was fulfilling the role set aside for her in prophesy by Valenn. Were you not aware of that? And she paid her penance for that decision a thousand times over. But yeah, fixate on one wrong decision and grind on that until the end of the universe. That is the mentality of a small child. If that is the perception you want to give people of yourself, that is your choice. I would rather accept the heartfelt contrition she expressed and the many ways she has fought to make up for that one wrong choice she was destined to make, rather than blame one person for the collective actions of her entire race. You can continue to be the child you told us you are, or you can behave as a grown-up and accept that you too have made poor choices. Does that make you responsible for all the evil in the world today? Think about that you anonymous hate monger. And someone who criticizes anonymously is hardly a credible source for justifiable complaints.
@@fozzy1004 I agree with you. There should be a fifty foot tall statue of Neroon somewhere in the capital city. I always saw him as the potential he carried within. He seemed a warrior with some degree of reason. That was how Delenn described the Shai Alit as well. Since Neroon was his second, it is hardly surprising that he would fit the same mold. But he became so much more than he began as. I would like to meet the person his spirit came to occupy in the next generation. I would hope that this person became the same sort of person Neroon was. Neroon also developed a great rapport, it would seem, with Marcus Cole. I would have liked to see more of that friendship established.
20 Jan 2021
The One Who Is, passed beyond the rim.
RIP Mira Furlan, a wonderful actress.
We live for the One, we die for the One.
I haven't seen this show since it 1st aired 20 yrs ago and I remember word for word this scene.
Absolutely the best for me.
The galaxy's most awesome girlfriend! I just LOVE when Delenn gets into one of her militant modes. The Minbari don't start fights, but if you pick one with them be prepared for a smackdown because they do NOT play games!
To quto one Minbari "Minbari don't start wars, we finish them."
So Sheridan's father is a Minbari, since he said to John: "Never start a fight, but finish it always.
No... he just has a Minbari soul. ;)
or "play stupid games...win stupid prizes"...and picking a fight with the Minbari is about as stupid a game as you can play
@@Lightingwarrior To be fair though a second Earth-Minbari war might not have been quite as one-sided as the last one....as the only reason it was so one-sided to begin with was the fact that Earth ships couldn't lock onto Minbari ones due to the stealth tech but in the time afterwards I'm sure Earth probably developed a countermeasure against that....but even in the first war....even without being able to achieve a target lock Earth ships still had enough firepower to severely damage, if not outright destroy, a Minbari Sharlin-class warcruiser...although I'm sure Minbari warcruisers still retained the ability to cut through the armor on EA ships like hot knives through butter...so at best it would've likely been a war of attrition depending on who fires first in any subsequent engagements
Few things as wonderful as a woman with an Eastern Europeans accent, with superior starships under her command.
Laying down the law.
DELENN!! Gloriana Regina!
StarDagger Rihannsu DELENN VS SERVALAN BLKS'7 WHO WINS???
I am pretty sure the universe implodes from fear
Not my F*cking Blood Pressure that's for sure! Servalan was my teenage fantasy for years (I hit puberty right about the time Blake's 7 hit the TV screens) and Delenn's just as hot! In fact thinking about both of them at the same time is dang........ (several minutes pass during which ice cold shower water is heard running) .... erous.
And today we mourn. R I P Mira Furlan. We will see you again beyond the rim.
In the place where no shadows fall.
To this day, I still get goosebumps when the Minbari jump points open. One of the best sci-fi series ever made.
Despite all the firepower they brought, when those three Minbari war cruisers and the White Star showed up, it was over for Earthforce :P One of the best "fuck off or die" scenes in sci-fi history. Awesome Delenn!!!
Also logical, remember, the War Cruisers were most likely armed and ready - meaning their cloaks were engaged. When they realised this, they made a half hearted attempt to get them to leave before retreating.
Remember, if all had gone to plan, there should have been two squadrons of capital ships at B5 plus the station under their control. The first squadron was obliterated so the second one had no chance
Well, they remembered the history books when the Minbari almost exterminated the entire human race without breaking in sweat, and indeed the only human captain who ever managed to survive, let alone win, an engagement with a Minbari warship, was on their side.
The only rational decision is to turn around and piss off while you still have a ship to fly.
history books? that happened about 10 years prior if that
That would be covered in history books.
in terms of raw firingpower earthforce wasn't far behind the minbari, especially the Omegas. But that cloaking device tho...
Absolutely my favorite scene from the entire series run.
Trekkers and Star Wars lovers should warch this series in its entirety.
It is great science fiction and is worthy of being recognized as such.
I completely agree, as a lover of Star Trek, Wars and Gate, B5, Doctor Who, Red Dwarf, The Expanse and many other Science Fiction shows B5 is definately one of the best, it was basicly Game of Thrones in space, and they did it in the mid 90s
Done that
That is exactly what I told Bruce Boxleitner last weekend when I was getting his autograph at my town's annual sci-fi/comic/anime convention. He said the broadcast time slots for B5 in those years around the country were not that great.
Amen!
I like the scene in Comes the Inquisitor when she confronts Sebastian about the fact that if she falls, another will take her place, and another, and another. That whole scene was another display of the inner might and character of Delenn.
She has gone to explore past the rim. Rest well lady Mira, where no shadows dwell.
27 years later that reply still gives me goosebumps
“If you value your life, be somewhere else!” One of the baddest lines in the series. Very under rated.
If I remember, this is the second time this episode that Delenn has her "Don't mess with me" face on. The first is 'moving' the guard out of the way so she can get into the Grey Council room.
Ben Coleman she was annoyed because it was the same guy that she helped off Babylon 5 with a head wound
I served the Council for sixteen cycles. I was the chosen of Dukhat to replace him! I held him when he died! His blood is on my hands, his spirit in my eyes, his word on my lips! You will step aside in his name and mine, or-in Valen's name-I will tear this ship apart with my bare hands until I find them! Move aside!
@@BaalsMistress He moved. Almost as fast as the EA ships did!!
@@danielhaire6677 yes that poor lone minbari standing guard at the chamber doors, he also rapidly entered brown sector lol
Those Earthforce cruisers flew through that jumpgate like chickens that had Colonel Sanders after them!
Jean Williams Pay close attention; they generated their own jump point. Because powering up the gate would've taken longer, and cut into their all-important running away time. :D
Yeah, exactly! They were pretty much "Screw this! We're out of here!"
Can you blame them? When the Minbari attacked Proxima during the war, 4 Minbari war cruisers destroyed 40 Earth warships in just 14 seconds, not liking the 3 against 4 odds there.
Delenn's most epic badass moment. One of sci-fi coolest scenes, and kudos to Mira Furlan for that perfect delivery of the "Why not?" line.
Still one of my favorite scenes from the entire series. Rest in Peace Mira. You are one with the stars now.
She has "gone to the sea" for certain.
Another cast member of this great show goes beyond the rim. RIP Mira.
This remains the greatest ultimatum in television history. I still laugh my ass off every time.
most underrated series ever!
Still one of the most powerful and awesome moments I have ever seen 🥰 Mira played her character with style and power 🥰 You will be missed Mira - Thank you so much 😇
To hear " modern " actresses say they were the pioneers of strong female leads...lol what a joke.
Mira's Delenn, now THAT is how you do a proper badass heroine!
This is the best line in the show. Mira made you feel like this is real. Amazing talent from Mira she made the series truly great. Sorry she is no longer with us but her gift lives on with us. B5 was greater because of her character and what she made of that character. God bless her for her gift to us. She will forever live in our hearts.❤
So many great lines in Babylon 5 but the best isn't anything spoken. Vir looking up and waving;).
I remember going to a Babylon 5 convention in London in 1996. I got to meet Mira at an autograph session. I complimented her on this speech. She was very gracious. Just like Delenn. What a great series and a great set of characters. RIP. ❤
Trivia: there was no auditory response by the humans, as the sound of a bunch of Earthforce captains explosively shitting themselves would've upped the rating on the episode.
Should have worn their brown pants.
Well, they WERE still fighting down in Brown sector.
if you shit your self in space can you hear frozen crap ??
What a crappy thing to say!
Remember that this was shown, it was with parents with kids in mind. How would you answer:
"Mommy, why do the big ships making the same noise when dad is in the potty?"
R.I.P. Mira Furlan. We will be, as we have always been, right behind you.
This is one of the BEST scenes of B5.
"Why not?" Mira Furlan makes that one of the most badass phrases ever.
They didn't retreat, but they remembered that they had left their irons switched on.
This has still got to be one of the coolest lines of all time. I actually watched this very episode last night with my girlfriend who is watching the series for the first time. Her reaction was the same as mine always has and still is: WOW!
What I wouldn't give to watch that scene for the first time again.
The first season was shaky at best. I didn't start watching until Boxleitner came on originally. There are more than a few cringy episodes throughout the series (grey 17 is missing, anyone?), but as you say the overarching story makes up for them.
Just saw the ep for the first time. Became my favorite moment instantly
Best line ever..... "If you value your lives, be somewhere else."
A true moment of feminine badassery that will stand forever. And now another great soul has left us, to explore beyond the Rim. RIP Mira Furlan. We live for the One, we die for the One. Entil'zha veni, in Valen's name.
We live for the One, we die for the One.
"I am a Ranger."
"We walk in the dark places no others will enter."
"We stand on the bridge, and no one may pass."
"We live for the One, we die for the One"
Hey Disney, THIS is how you make a strong, female character.
RIP, Mira Furlan; you brought Delenn to life in a way I don't think anyone else could have.
Righteous, powerful and resolute. She was my hero as a kid.
Now THATS aggressive negotiation!
Chris Egan "Cowboy diplomacy" more likely!
Chris Egan peace through superior firepower.
That always works.
Diplomacy is merely warfare by other means, but at least it comes with wine and finger food.
Grimm Ronin "Social occasions are only Warfare concealed." - Khan Noonien Singh, Star Trek TOS, Space Seed
One of the most epic scenes in science fiction history. And Delenns delivery.............still makes me go wow after all these years.
Seasons 2 - 4 was some of the best sci fi on tv at the time.
Still is.
Be somewhere else.
Love that line by the lady.
A lady rescuing a gentleman in distress. Priceless! Bravo JMS!
In Indian mythology, the Goddess has three aspects, gentle (Pavarti ), angry/militant (Durga), and destroyer of the universe (Kali-ma). Looks like Delenn is already in the second aspect, leaning towards the third!
No, Delenn is the one who gave the three aspects LESSONS in their assigned roles!!
The first words out of Captain Sheridan' mouth at that point should be 'Delenn, will you marry me?". He get's around to it later but damn....
Na it was probably a subspace transmission to those Earth ships ..." By the way, I'm hitting that! JS"
i dont know is he would have said that even in private...but you know SOMEONE would say that
Delenn: Hey, i remembered here, there's another ritual for this.
Sheridan: God, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I always felt that Sheridan would have liked to jump right through that view screen and give Delenn the biggest hug ever.
@@reginal.898 Yes. You can see that on his face standing next to the screen.
Arguably the best Sci-fi moment, played by the best female Sci-fi actor. May she rest in peace back among the stars.
One of the best. Ivanova was awesome too.
Mira Furlan was truly starsuff and will be missed RIP
One of the best Sci-fi shows I've ever watched. Take a bow Mr. Straczynski.