If you were doing the re-build for a customer, would it be worth their while in what you would have to charge for your labour and parts or would it make more economic sense for them to simply buy a new chainsaw?
Thank you for the question. Buy a new saw would be the way for the customer to go. However, on the other hand if a person has the time and ability to do it themselves, this is very rewarding and fun! Thanks again.
One of the best power saw service videos I have come across. Compressed air blow out, each time a saw is used, can go a long way to extend the life of the saw.
Two things I just added to my tool kit, hemostats and Evaporust. Never thought I'd watch a full video tear down of a 20+ year old chainsaw but you made it interesting and worthwhile.
In my youth I would have plunged into this fearlessly. In my 80's it fills me with apprehension, on whether I would remember where all the bits came from. .
@@theobserver9131 Penetrating oil to start, then a blowtorch to heat the casing first will help to loosen things. Also try tightening a little first, then loosening, a little, and repeat, several times, until you have a full turn then it should be OK with a little more oil.
Yes… lots of bits to manage. But… with a cellphone camera we can photograph each stage during disassembly for reference during reassembly… that really helps. And just keep little plastic containers for different parts.
2 habits that has helped me over the decades. 1. I use a knife to open the bar oil. I leave an almost ½inch of the seal. I can pour a gallon jug with that, since it cuts off the drip way better. 2. Most important- I always add bar oil before my fuel. Won't even touch the fuel can. My brain knows it needs fuel, but it's just too easy forget to refill the chain oil reservoir. 35 years-so far, so good. Thanks for making the effort to put out such an outstanding video. Straight to the point, all the steps, and nice to see the saw come back to life.
Wonderful instructional video! Demonstration of compression and vacuum tests, as well as use of vegetable oil were especially informative. I learned the proper use of a business card to gap the coil on lawn mower engines when I was about 10 years; works perfectly on all small engines. I have a Stihl 028 Super, purchased in 1980 and used 8 to 10 hours a day, six or seven days a week for high production precommercial thinning, for 4 years. Has been a reliable wood and brush cutter ever since and starts up on a few easy pulls to this day. My regimen: Clean the saw, touch up the chain and adjust carb every few hours of operation; a sharp chain puts optimum load on the engine and reduces engine/chain parts hours for a given amount of production; proper carb adjustment keeps combustion chamber cool and reduces internal carbon build-up; disassemble, clean and re-kit the carburetor periodically. Other parts as needed. Old Stihls seem to run forever if properly maintained!
Thanks a much for the watch and the comment. It looks like a different chainsaw. There was still a little discoloration in the engine housing plastic but it cleaned up nicely. The outer shell looks practically brand new however. I'm very happy with it.
@@chainsawace1777 Saw turned out great, thx for the video. If you don't mind me asking how much was the total for the parts? I noticed some Stihl parts and perhaps some not? If so, why some factory and some not?
I enjoyed the video immensely and saved it for my husband. We have a MS291, and cut and stack up to 3 cords of wood per year. I don't think he has ever done such a thorough cleaning, but we will practice on an old smaller Stihl a neighbor sold us for $20. Doesn't run right, so we can't mess it up too bad, I hope.
@@MrOldclunkerright I get that from a hedge row before I get my 40 ft trailer loaded with posts and when in the timber before a good day of getting logs to the mill I get more from the tops and hollow trees
@@davidwoermansr You two measuring your glizzies under a comment made by a woman thanking the guy for making a video? You guys must be some real deal logging SOB's lol. If you spent that energy cleaning your saws rather than swinging dks Steven wouldn't have to make a video like that. And newsflash, nobody gives a shit how many cords you make.
Now it’s time to say congratulations on a remarkable transformation of this old machine. I have never owned or used a chainsaw so I don’t know why I watched the whole video. I guess it was almost hypnotic. I’m certainly impressed that he managed to put everything back together successfully.
I love my 029 Stih"l farm boss" only problem it's been sitting for six years I suppose I'm gonna have to get some body to take it to the local repair shop.
Rebuilt one 290 for a customer: never again! Sorry assed design, way too much work, for too little money! One time with just gasoline and not only does it score out, but to replace the jug and piston, YOU HAVE TO DISASSEMBLE THE WHOLE SAW! The cylinder is also the crankcase!
This is more than a little TLC. You put a lot of love there because I think most people would just clean the surface that you see, clean the carb and put a kit there and start using the saw. You made it brand new and I was curious about the hours you 've put into it, but scrolling through the comments I found out you didn't keep track. Anyway... awesome job! 👍
My wife has a MS290 and its been a great saw. Just used it to dropped a dead 36" elm tree. Nothing like going out to the shop and working on a piece of equipment. When I finish with her HS81R I may tackle the MS290. Its been in service for over 10 years so it needs some TLC. Your video is really going to help. Thank you. No one in my area stocks Stihl and parts so I have been buying from UK with excellent success. They pretty much repair everything in the UK and the laws are much more favorable to DIY and I believe the prices are better. Keep up the good work. You probably get more out of the teaching than your elderly students! Thank you!
I appreciate you watching and thanks for the kind words! I am working on mutiple videos right now. I hope you stick around to see them. Have a great day.
Man, I was torn on what to do about commentary. A friend of mine said he did not like to watch videos that didnt have any commentary and that he liked for what was being done on screen to be explained. I guess he was correct. Should I do more commentary or less? Or was this level about right? Appreciate you watching and giving the nice comment. Any feedback is appreciated.
@@chainsawace1777 I think the commentary makes it more personal, especially a relaxed style, and anything that isn’t conveyed easily via the video can be enhanced or expanded upon with your voice. Most people would probably appreciate your wisdom of where to be extra careful or use a can whoop-ass on a fastener or avoid this or that lubricant/rust remover etc. The down side, and probably the reason why most creators of these type of vids do them silently, is the fact that those who aren’t well versed in the English language will click out very soon. So there’s that. Best of luck with the channel. Oh, and maybe provide practical advice on keeping track of fasteners and other small parts (where they go) will be a good topic some day.
@@chainsawace1777 First time I've come across this channel. Good content,....and information in the commentary was fine,.. it just sounds like you're unnaturally reading from a script. Saying it in you're own words off the cuff,.. will come across much better,.. even if you don't say it perfectly. Or if you don't like it,... this is video,.. you can edit it,..... break it up into sections and do several takes of each until you think it's right. That's what all of the other youtubers do. They even show bloopers sometimes at the end. You can do an outline of the whole process as a guide for the proper sequence and as a reminder of any points you wanted to make in each section,... but reading it is distracting to the viewer. It sounds like someone wrote it for you and you're just reading the directions for the first time. Too much focus on pronouncing words properly sounds fake. Diesel Creek does a good job of what sounds like is ad-libbing his videos,.. but I'm sure he has as outline if just a list of things he might want to cover and I know he does more than one take,.. cause sometimes he forgets to edit them out. And they're great videos. Some of them are put together over days or weeks,.. due to ordering parts, weather,.. etc. Or Chickanic is one closer to this content.
Hey Chainsaw Ace! Your commentary was just about spot on! I enjoyed the somewhat dry humor at times, and the self deprecating approach. You are truly the ‘Chainsaw Ace!’ Well done!
It would be nice if all of us chainsaw users had the technical knowledge and expertise and tools to tear down and test a chainsaw like this. I can tear down minimally and always blow out the dirt, wash out the covers, etc. But a tear down like that, no way.. And I can't imagine the cost to take it to a repair shop to have that done. but I appreciate you showing us on how it's done. Nice job.
I am amazed. You remind me of me. A perfectionist. No shortcuts, no BS. I love it ! Great job. That chainsaw is perfect, like new. Great job. I'm really impressed. I thought folks like you and I had become obsolete.
Really appreciate you watching my friend. People like us are still around we are just busy working. lol Thanks for the nice comment as well. People like you make doing videos like this worth it.
My Husq 365 just packed it in after almost 30 years of reliable service. I bought a brand new one to console my grief. The Stihl you are working on didn't get a lot of care, as soon as you gave it a pull I knew it would be a runner. Great job!
Nice informative video! One thing I love that you did was that you actually rebuilt the carb. So many people are just parts changers. I understand if you have a high volume repair shop, but the average person fixing something themselves needs to learn why it’s not working and how to fix it. Not just order an Amazon replacement.
A really great, well detailed video. Thanks for doing a wonderful job of explaining everything involved. I would like to add one important thing I tell people which is to let the saw warm up for a bit before full RPMs .This keeps the aluminum piston from expanding faster than the cast cylinder thus scoring it. All my 3 chainsaws came to me free from people who did'nt know this.
german made Stihl's yes American made no way. I had 2 German made stihl's and the quality was outstanding. they got stole and replaced them and they were made in the US and the quality was total crap. quality between US made and German made are like the difference between night and day
Thank you so much! I'm glad you found the video almost therapeutic-I guess I should consider shooting my next video in front of a waterfall for an extra tranquil vibe! Maybe we can turn chainsaw restorations into a new form of relaxation therapy. 😂 Seriously though, I appreciate your kind words and I'm happy you enjoyed the video.
Thank you Mark. I really appreciate your nice comment. I'm now officially retired as a mechanic as well. We've been in business for 42 years but an opportunity to exit came up. So we did. Now I'm just doing this for fun. I have tons of awesome stuff for the channel planned. I hope you stick around to see it and give me feedback. Have a great day my friend.
Going to Alaska. Am buying all new Stihl equipment. With videos like this, how can I go wrong? Proper maintenance out in the wilderness is absolute and may keep me from having to buy two of everything! HEY MAN, THANKS!
Thank you for the nice comment and watching. Have a great day. Watch out for bears and White Walkers up there north of the wall! (GAME OF THRONES REFERENCE ).
Awesome job! That’s a saw that’d be hard to sell and anyone should be proud to own. I own a MS 271 farm boss. It doesn’t get a lot of use, but after each job I clean everything thoroughly and sharpen the chain.
This is exactly what my newest hobby has become. Started with an old 066 and have now grown to bringing 26 saws back to life. Great video and really good info my friend👊🏼
WOW!!! THANKS, FOR THIS GREAT, INFORMATIVE/EDUCATIONAL DEMO VIDEO!!I HPWEVER,... I DOUBT THAT ANYONE TEARS DOWN THEIR CHAINSAW, ENTIRELY, AFTER EVERY USE, JUST TO "CLEAN IT".....
Of course nobody is expected to disassemble their saw to this level every time they use it. Periodic maintenance, after every use, will keep their saw from getting to this point. This was an extreme case. I think it was Ben Franklin that said "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Thanks for watching and commenting.
My God you did such a beautiful job on that old boy I would put it in a glass case in my living room and let people come look at it.That was for sure not your first rodeo. Great job. 😀 ADD: Many moons ago as a younger man we cut and sold wood to the tourists for firewood. Very first thing we did upon returning home was to clean the chain saw. Bar off chain was set aside to sharpen and we just used gasoline to get her cleaned. Better stuff now but gas worked just fine. Gave it a pretty good cleaning then fuel and oil and ready for the next day. Weekend was deep cleaning day if we were not working. We cared for our saws and they never let us down. Stihl saws like a diesel locomotive they just keep chugging. 👍
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm thrilled to hear you enjoyed the video. It's always rewarding to bring an old chainsaw back to life and make it look and perform like new. I really appreciate you sharing your story. It’s amazing to hear about your experiences and the care you took with your chainsaws. Stihl saws indeed are like diesel locomotives-reliable and tough. Thanks again for your wonderful comment and for sharing your memories! 👍😀
In reality I have yet to see the difference between wide open throttle and closed throttle. However, I made a video a while back when I tested compression with a closed throttle. I was almost strung up in the comments. lol. Here is the best description I have seen for as to do WOT. This was pulled from arboristsite.com "If the throttle is closed, the cylinder fills with less than a full charge of air -- that's what the throttle is there for. So there's a vacuum (i.e. lower absolute pressure) in the cylinder. Then the piston compresses the vacuum, so the peak pressure in the cylinder is less than it would be if the cylinder had been allowed to draw in its full volume." Thanks for commenting and watching.
The Stihl MS 290 is a great homeowner saws, I have one and it's used for felling, bucking, limbing smaller trees. Bought it in 2008, got away from regular gasoline after a carburetor rebuild, use only non ethanol gasoline mixed with Stihl HP synthetic mix oil, a shot of Seafoam, and a shot of Startron....., great video
One of the best videos on TH-cam. As a home owner what cleaning procedure do you recommend every time I sharpen my chain to avoid accumulation of dirt in the inner part of the chainsaw.
If I’m Lazy I break out the Pressure washer but if you do be careful where you use it’s force. Don’t go ruining Seals. Most of the ignition parts cope ok and I airblast the wet Saw . Don’t get water down the inlet or exhaust and do it on a cold Saw only ….
Great video! I bought an 036 30 years ago when I cleared land for my first house, then gave it to my father. Got it back when he passed and looking to fix it up. My bet is it has never been broken down and cleaned. I have my work cut out for me as it seems.
Very similar to MS271 that I did a good clean up (not as complete as here) last week. I used a 3000PSI pressure washer with white tip and kept a foot away. Degreaser, mainly thick bristle brush used. Impact driver used to open, not close screws. New chain, Oregon, similar fast cutting, and greater risk of kick back. Oil tank had to be significantly full before oil appeared on the port. No dipping in any liquid. Some ear wax in tough to clean spaces was removed. Some very minor ones left. Carb not removed. Area underneath carb inlet cleaned with pressure washer. New air filter. New gas. New bar oil. Thank you very much for sharing!
All I can do is change the spark plug and oil the chain. I don’t have any chain saw dissembling skills, so I enjoy watching experts like you. Excellent video.
things like that u should just do sometimes and learn.. Ive done a lot of moped/scooter tuning when i was in my teens.. little chainsaw motor doesnt faze me.
You are the only person I have heard suggesting to lift the guide bar when adjusting the chain tension and bar nuts. I have done this for years after seeing what a difference it can make when doing so.
I love getting hold of neglected old saws like this one that the owner has given up on. It usually doesn't take more than a good cleaning, a carb kit and other peripheral parts to get them running like new again. I once found a Stihl 034 beside a road in the national forest that somebody got pissed off at and threw away. After going through it my friend is still using it 10 years later.
My neighbor works at a metal recycling yard and he brought home two stihl farm boss chainsaws that were dirtier then this saw. He asked me if I would look at them and see if they were any good. I was a timber faller for years and did all the maintenance on my saws for many years so I agreed to look at them. First I took out the magneto that I found out is now called the ignition coil so it would get wet. I put a plastic baggie over the throat of the carb. To keep water out of the cylinder . These saws were so dirty it would of took hours to clean all the caked on dirt ,wood and oil out of the fins on the head and dirt every where. I took off the side plate ,the bar and the side plate for the starter rope. I then plugged the holes for the muffler. I took all the parts outside and used my pressure washer with a straight stream of water and it took a half hour to get all the crud off these saws . I drained the old gas ,removed and cleaned the float bowl and jets in the carb. I drained and flushed out the oil tank and chain oiler. After I blew the parts off with pressurized air ,resembled them and set the gap on the ignition coil I pulled the plug that looked new and sprayed foaming oil into the cylinders and turned them over to lube the rings and cylinder. I put gas in the saws and three pulls on both saw and they ran like new. They are great saws and look almost new except for a few scratches on the chain covers from someone not taking care to set the saw down right. I took before and after pictures and no one can believe they are the same saws. My neighbor got two saws worth hundreds of dollars. He was so grateful he gave me one of the saws . I can't believe how someone would allow a expensive piece of equipment to be treated like this. I figure it was probably some landscape company with employees who don't care about someone else's property and the owner most likely felt it would cost more to clean and fix the saws so they dunked them and bought new ones. I told my neighbor if he finds anymore saws an if they turn over when he pulls the cord to bring them home and I'll work on them. He just brought home a craftsman 30 gallon air compressor that probably 20 years old. I plugged it in and the tank is solid, the compressor builds pressure to 150 pounds. The only things I can find wrong with it is one of the pressure gauges is broke that I replaced for 10 dollars and the quick disconnect on the 40 foot hose leaked that I replaced for 4 dollars. We washed it off fixed one of the wheels on the cart with a new cotter pin and he's now got a great compressor that has a metal tag that says it's made in the USA. It's most likely a lot better made compressor then the Chinese junk that's available today. People in our country have way to much money if they can afford to throw things away that only require a little attention . One thing I forgot to mention both saws had brand new chisel bits chains that had never been sharpened. One of those chains would cost 75 dollars. Amazing!!!!!
Best vid I've seen of all other sites. Was looking awhile back on how to disassemble an old 017 since I'm new to doing chainsaws. Found a vid and the nit disassemled it so fast and didn't explain anything it wasnt an instruction vid it was just him showing off. Wasted my time when all I wanted to do was learn. Gave him a real bad review. He came back whining about it and I answered with do bad vids get bad reviews. And thanked him for wasting my time twice. Yours on the other hand. VERY nice, very informative, lots of tips, to the point. Perfect. also thanks for not boring me going on and on about stuff not having anything to do with dis and reassembling the rig. Some guys do and I just click out and comment "too much bla, bla, bla." You and Chickanic are now my go to sites. 👍👍👍
Thank you, my girlfriends family likes to leave a bunch of junk around including (what i am guessing) a broken stihl chainsaw that was left in the dirt for a few years so i am going to try to clean it and fix it so this should really help. Also, that vid on how to do pressure and vacuum tests without the fancy thingamabob would be handy.
I have a MS290 Farm Boss. Was very boggy and didn’t pull through the wood very good. Needed a carb overhaul after several years of use. I removed the high/low adjustment stops. Fine tuned the carb while it was in wood. It’s a whole different animal now.
The ultrasonic cleaner will not remove the finish of a carburetor if you use a safe solution. La's Totally Awesome Degreaser and Simple Green work great for me and have never affected a carburetor negatively for me. However, let me say this. If you run multiple cycles at maximum heat, you could loosen some of the Welch plugs on the carburetor. These plugs are glued in and can come loose if heated for too long of a period. 1 to 2 cycles are fine though. Thanks for watching. Have a great day.
Great video. I have a MS290 from when my dad passed and it needs a little bit of love. I was really hoping that you would go through the oiler and check it, I am not throwing oil when it's running. Your saw looks great now though.
This is a very good video. Thank you for sharing it. You mentioned cleaning your saw after every use. Obviously its not practical to completely disassemble the saw to this extent-how do you recommend cleaning the saw to prevent this amount of buildup? Could you make a video for routine use cleaning?
this must me the most extensive chainsaw restoration video I have ever seen. What an amazing job. I would never have the patience to go through all of that. Enjoy your new saw. By the way, what is the advantage of the new sprocket you installed? It must be something you have thought about, so I am interested to learn more. The new, lighter bar and yellow chain seem fairly obvious, but I have never seen anything about the sprocket upgrade. Thanks!
Hello I enjoyed watching you tear this chainsaw down from Northern Ontario. It’s way beyond what I could do but it at least showed me many of the things I needed to do to keep my MS170 clean and running great. I saw that you used Evaporust and I’d like to let you know that there is a guy on TH-cam that mixed his own rust removing solution that was a fraction of the cost of Evaporust costing only a few dollars. It was made with common household items and lasted longer, was more effective and lasted for many more uses compared to Evaporust. He used 1L of water to 100grams of Citric Acid. He pointed out that you could substitute the Citric Acid with the either one of following: *40 grams of Sodium Carbonate (Arm and Hammer Washing Soda) *63 grams of Sodium Bicarbonate (Arm and Hammer Baking Soda) *30 grams of sodium hydroxide ( Caustic Soda) This will save you tons of money same as when you use vegetable oil instead of mineral oil. I’ll find a link to his TH-cam video. Great rebuilt by the way!
Awesome video, I recently started to use my dads older MS 290, I give it a good dust off with compressed air after each use but thanks to your video I'll try a more thorough cleaning in fall. Also I have a question: I dust off my oil and gas caps with a brush before refill to minimize the amount of debris that might fall in but last time I did for the bar oil cap a small square piece of plastic came flying out from under the handle next to the cap. It was about 0,5 x 0,5 inch and quite flat, I assume it was a pad that fits between the handle and the body of the saw but I cant seem to find it anywhere in the owner's manual. Unfortunately I lost it somewhere and I am looking for a replacement, any idea what I am talking about?
@@chainsawace1777 Hello, thank you very much for the reply. It was black, square shaped, maybe 2-3 mm thick, 2 opposite sides were straight, 2 opposite were rounded bulging outwards. I had a good look at it and thought I put it in my pocket but I must have dropped it.
Hmm, I'm not sure what that could be. Are the fuel caps on your saw black? Some of the earlier 029/290 models had non-flip black fuel and oil caps. It might be part of the inner lining of the oil cap or possibly the annular buffer, which is also black. The annular buffers are the small anti-vibration components located where the handle meets the engine housing. Each one should have a cap covering its hole. Considering the limited amount of black on a 290, this seems likely to be what you're looking for. Google MS290 Annular Buffer Caps.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to reply. I have Googled it and it looks similar, I'll check the saw I am at my parents again. I assume it is not a "mission critical" part but if it is what is missing I'll order a replacement. I really appreciate your help.
Fantastic video! Thanks for posting! It has a lot of detail missing in most other disassembly/assembly videos. I bookmarked this one so as not to lose it.
Thank you so much! You are the very first Super Thanks we've ever received. Means so much. It tells me were on the right track. I really can't thank you enough.
When I say to clean your saw after every use, I mean giving it a quick clean each time. This includes blowing and wiping off any buildup of bar oil, dirt, and grime. Pay attention to cleaning around the oiler hole, the air filter, the carburetor compartment, the bar, and the chain. By taking a little time to do this after each use, you can prevent your chainsaw from reaching the condition shown in this video, which required a deep clean. Thanks for watching!
This level of service would be impossible to charge. It would simply be too much. This is my chainsaw now, it was given to me, and I wanted to show the complete repair and cleaning process to you guys. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I do this for used saws I sell on eBay and I usually profit more than stihl does on brand new new units. By doing this. 150-200$ profit is what I shoot for on mid range units. The real profit comes in the special cleaners and restoration agents I use they restore the plastic itself for many months to come. Taking away years of abuse and neglect in a few sprays and some scrubbing. In most cases the vacuum test is completely unnecessary I’ve seen 5 saws in 20 years with seal or case issues
Agreed great video, but the muffler portion audio was like nails on a chalkboard for me. The rust on thin metal for some reason makes my boys go into my gut. LOL
I figure if the previous owner owned a nice chainsaw like this MS 290 he most likely has a nice collection of equipment...mower, weed eater, leaf blower ect. I bet we can all guess what kind of shape they all end up being when he gets frustrated and buys a new one. I've seen some dirty neglected equipment in my days but this may be the worst yet! Enjoyed the video and I'm happy to to be your newest subscriber! Good job Ace!
This level of service is not something I can really charge a customer. Not just me, but any small engine shop. With industry labor rates averaging $70 to $100 per hour, even higher in some cases, it would be cost prohibative. The labor, parts and fees would more than likely exceed more than half, or close to it, the cost of a new chainsaw. This repair and cleaning took a while to complete. I'm not even sure how long it took. I really appreciate you watching and commenting. We have more videos coming that I think you will like. I hope you stick around. Have a good one!
Great! I have a 40-50 yo Stihl 036 which looks just like the model you are working on. If I ever need to do a complete tare down, this is the video! I keep my air filter clean and do a lot of lub, but for about 45 years, it just work. On my 10 acres, there is some use every year but not intensive. Just a little maintenance and fresh fuel and it always works well. I love my chain saw. I also love the more agressive Oregon chains. I want chips, not dust.👍
Sthil saws are amazing quality products my one and only saw is a 1995 Sthil 026 which has served me incredibly well over the years. They are well worth the care and attention shown here!
Glad you enjoyed it! I've been away for a bit with life things. We have more coming in the near future that you will enjoy if you liked this one. Thanks again for the view and the nice comment.
Though this was literally a brand new saw with just some grime and dust you did a nice job/video explaining the process. If you had done anything else, it's good you cleaned the cylinder ribs as good airflow (and clean carb) is the most important thing for the saw. I especially liked the idea to change the clutch to a newer rim style sprocket. You're an inspiration for me to finally fully rebuild my old 40 yr old Partner 5000 that has been sitting in the barn for yrs. Some comments: 1) I always disassemble and fully clean the springs on the starter unit. Especially cutting dry wood (like bark beetle killed trees). Fine saw dust really clogs up the whole mechanism. To lubricate I use Boeshield T-9 as it doesn't collect so much dust (I'd do the same for the throttle mechanism). 2) Was the rubber guide for the carb high/low screws lost/damaged/forgotten? Installed it makes adjusting the carb so much easier. 3) Dust/shavings/twigs and even sand/rocks will always enter the chain oil tank so I regularly empty/clean with some kerosene, blow with air (from reverse), and then check if it works/adjust without the bar/cover on. 4) On older machines I always check (and replace) the rubber gromets for the dampening mechanism. If one breaks during work it 'can' be dangerous. 5) As a logger for yrs I've never seen the need for those spiky attachments and just remove them ... but we all have our differences.
I did a compression test on my ms 290 stilh chain saw and got a reading of 40 psi. I did it 3 times and each time I got 40 psi. I poured a little gas into the cylindar and reinstalled the spark plug. It started and ran enough to burn all the fuel. The problem is it will not stay running. it as if no gas is coming through the carburetor but I have put a new carburetor on it and still have the problem. What am I missing? Please tell me if you can
Hey! Thanks for the view and the question. 40lbs of compression is really low. More than likely your rings or possibly rings and piston may be damaged. Remove the muffler so you can inspect the piston and rings. If the piston is not damaged you may can just replace the rings to get the saws compression back to normal. If the piston is damaged as well, it will also need to be replaced. Thanks again.
This is the most comprehensive video about repair that I've seen. It also demonstrates that time spent on maintaining a high quality tool is worth it. But I have a question - How is it that it's so easy for dirt to get into the innermost parts of the saw? It doesn't seem that it is easy to clean the saw after every use.
Thanks for the compliment on the video! I'm glad you found it helpful. Your question about dirt getting into the innermost parts of the saw is a good one. Chainsaws are exposed to tough conditions, so it's not surprising that dirt and debris can find their way inside. I know it might seem like a hassle to clean the saw after every use, but focusing on key areas like the air filter, bar, chain, and oiler hole can really help. A quick clean after each use can save you from bigger, more time-consuming problems down the road.
Yes, having the piston at TDC is important for pressure and vacuum tests. It seals the ports completely, prevents leaks, protects the seals, and keeps things stable for accurate results. Thanks for watching and commenting.
If you were doing the re-build for a customer, would it be worth their while in what you would have to charge for your labour and parts or would it make more economic sense for them to simply buy a new chainsaw?
Thank you for the question.
Buy a new saw would be the way for the customer to go.
However, on the other hand if a person has the time and ability to do it themselves, this is very rewarding and fun!
Thanks again.
One of the best power saw service videos I have come across. Compressed air blow out, each time a saw is used, can go a long way to extend the life of the saw.
Two things I just added to my tool kit, hemostats and Evaporust. Never thought I'd watch a full video tear down of a 20+ year old chainsaw but you made it interesting and worthwhile.
Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Evaporust....is that the same as Coca Cola? Lol
In my youth I would have plunged into this fearlessly.
In my 80's it fills me with apprehension, on whether I would remember where all the bits came from.
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I'm just scared of messing with exhaust parts. Bolts break EVERY TIME I try it.
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Penetrating oil to start, then a blowtorch to heat the casing first will help to loosen things. Also try tightening a little first, then loosening, a little, and repeat, several times, until you have a full turn then it should be OK with a little more oil.
Yes… lots of bits to manage.
But… with a cellphone camera we can photograph each stage during disassembly for reference during reassembly… that really helps. And just keep little plastic containers for different parts.
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I have a Stihl strimmer to sort.
So, I'll have to pluck up my courage!
same
2 habits that has helped me over the decades.
1. I use a knife to open the bar oil. I leave an almost ½inch of the seal.
I can pour a gallon jug with that, since it cuts off the drip way better.
2. Most important-
I always add bar oil before my fuel. Won't even touch the fuel can. My brain knows it needs fuel, but it's just too easy forget to refill the chain oil reservoir.
35 years-so far, so good.
Thanks for making the effort to put out such an outstanding video. Straight to the point, all the steps, and nice to see the saw come back to life.
Wonderful instructional video! Demonstration of compression and vacuum tests, as well as use of vegetable oil were especially informative. I learned the proper use of a business card to gap the coil on lawn mower engines when I was about 10 years; works perfectly on all small engines. I have a Stihl 028 Super, purchased in 1980 and used 8 to 10 hours a day, six or seven days a week for high production precommercial thinning, for 4 years. Has been a reliable wood and brush cutter ever since and starts up on a few easy pulls to this day. My regimen: Clean the saw, touch up the chain and adjust carb every few hours of operation; a sharp chain puts optimum load on the engine and reduces engine/chain parts hours for a given amount of production; proper carb adjustment keeps combustion chamber cool and reduces internal carbon build-up; disassemble, clean and re-kit the carburetor periodically. Other parts as needed. Old Stihls seem to run forever if properly maintained!
Most comprehensive rehap/rebuild of a chainsaw I've ever seen, thanks!
Thanks so much!
Absolutely great job stripping it down, cleaning and reassembling it again. It was a lot of work, but how good does it look after you had finished.
Thanks a much for the watch and the comment. It looks like a different chainsaw. There was still a little discoloration in the engine housing plastic but it cleaned up nicely. The outer shell looks practically brand new however. I'm very happy with it.
@@chainsawace1777 Saw turned out great, thx for the video. If you don't mind me asking how much was the total for the parts? I noticed some Stihl parts and perhaps some not? If so, why some factory and some not?
The engine parts were genuine OEM. Chain and bar aftermarket. These are consumable parts so why not?
@@chainsawace1777Hi,
Have you considered buying an ultrasonic cleaner?
I can’t view and delete my previous comment anymore. Please ignore, I’ve just seen your ultrasonic cleaner.
I enjoyed the video immensely and saved it for my husband. We have a MS291, and cut and stack up to 3 cords of wood per year. I don't think he has ever done such a thorough cleaning, but we will practice on an old smaller Stihl a neighbor sold us for $20. Doesn't run right, so we can't mess it up too bad, I hope.
That is awesome! Really appreciate you watching and saving it for your husband. I hope you guys found it helpful.
Wow 3 whole cords? that is an afternoon for us.
@@MrOldclunkerright I get that from a hedge row before I get my 40 ft trailer loaded with posts and when in the timber before a good day of getting logs to the mill I get more from the tops and hollow trees
@@davidwoermansr You two measuring your glizzies under a comment made by a woman thanking the guy for making a video? You guys must be some real deal logging SOB's lol. If you spent that energy cleaning your saws rather than swinging dks Steven wouldn't have to make a video like that. And newsflash, nobody gives a shit how many cords you make.
Ignore the braggarts ;)
Now it’s time to say congratulations on a remarkable transformation of this old machine. I have never owned or used a chainsaw so I don’t know why I watched the whole video. I guess it was almost hypnotic. I’m certainly impressed that he managed to put everything back together successfully.
I love my 029 Stih"l farm boss" only problem it's been sitting for six years I suppose I'm gonna have to get some body to take it to the local repair shop.
Me too! It's not just a repair that was expertly done. The video itself was extremely well done and edited. Fantastic job!
That cleaning would have cost you about $300 for a chainsaw that cost $300 max used.
@@davidnewland2461 Carb kit and a plug at best and fire it up. There saved you $300 on a shop.
Sometimes you do work like this and have many parts left over after you finish and you wonder why they put all those unneeded parts in🤣
I've rebuilt two chain saws out of desperation. This video is awesome in how organized the process is presented. Sure wish I had seen this before.
Rebuilt one 290 for a customer: never again! Sorry assed design, way too much work, for too little money!
One time with just gasoline and not only does it score out, but to replace the jug and piston, YOU HAVE TO DISASSEMBLE THE WHOLE SAW! The cylinder is also the crankcase!
I was given a broken saw, with the pieces I needed to get my 2 in one running.
I call it frank. For Frankenstein.
This is more than a little TLC. You put a lot of love there because I think most people would just clean the surface that you see, clean the carb and put a kit there and start using the saw. You made it brand new and I was curious about the hours you 've put into it, but scrolling through the comments I found out you didn't keep track. Anyway... awesome job! 👍
One of the best video showing step by step operation and explanation ,giving confidence to do the job.
Hey thanks for watching and commenting. Have a great day!
My wife has a MS290 and its been a great saw. Just used it to dropped a dead 36" elm tree. Nothing like going out to the shop and working on a piece of equipment. When I finish with her HS81R I may tackle the MS290. Its been in service for over 10 years so it needs some TLC. Your video is really going to help. Thank you. No one in my area stocks Stihl and parts so I have been buying from UK with excellent success. They pretty much repair everything in the UK and the laws are much more favorable to DIY and I believe the prices are better. Keep up the good work. You probably get more out of the teaching than your elderly students! Thank you!
I appreciate you watching and thanks for the kind words! I am working on mutiple videos right now. I hope you stick around to see them. Have a great day.
The commentary is great. Most vids like this have none.
Man, I was torn on what to do about commentary. A friend of mine said he did not like to watch videos that didnt have any commentary and that he liked for what was being done on screen to be explained.
I guess he was correct.
Should I do more commentary or less? Or was this level about right?
Appreciate you watching and giving the nice comment. Any feedback is appreciated.
@@chainsawace1777 I think the commentary makes it more personal, especially a relaxed style, and anything that isn’t conveyed easily via the video can be enhanced or expanded upon with your voice. Most people would probably appreciate your wisdom of where to be extra careful or use a can whoop-ass on a fastener or avoid this or that lubricant/rust remover etc.
The down side, and probably the reason why most creators of these type of vids do them silently, is the fact that those who aren’t well versed in the English language will click out very soon. So there’s that.
Best of luck with the channel.
Oh, and maybe provide practical advice on keeping track of fasteners and other small parts (where they go) will be a good topic some day.
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First time I've come across this channel.
Good content,....and information in the commentary was fine,.. it just sounds like you're unnaturally reading from a script.
Saying it in you're own words off the cuff,.. will come across much better,.. even if you don't say it perfectly.
Or if you don't like it,... this is video,.. you can edit it,..... break it up into sections and do several takes of each until you think it's right.
That's what all of the other youtubers do. They even show bloopers sometimes at the end.
You can do an outline of the whole process as a guide for the proper sequence and as a reminder of any points you wanted to make in each section,... but reading it is distracting to the viewer.
It sounds like someone wrote it for you and you're just reading the directions for the first time.
Too much focus on pronouncing words properly sounds fake.
Diesel Creek does a good job of what sounds like is ad-libbing his videos,.. but I'm sure he has as outline if just a list of things he might want to cover and I know he does more than one take,.. cause sometimes he forgets to edit them out. And they're great videos.
Some of them are put together over days or weeks,.. due to ordering parts, weather,.. etc.
Or Chickanic is one closer to this content.
Hey Chainsaw Ace! Your commentary was just about spot on! I enjoyed the somewhat dry humor at times, and the self deprecating approach. You are truly the ‘Chainsaw Ace!’ Well done!
Wow, what a comment there. I’m glad You didn't go into too much detail, or come away sounding like a know it all snob! 🙄
It would be nice if all of us chainsaw users had the technical knowledge and expertise and tools to tear down and test a chainsaw like this. I can tear down minimally and always blow out the dirt, wash out the covers, etc. But a tear down like that, no way.. And I can't imagine the cost to take it to a repair shop to have that done. but I appreciate you showing us on how it's done. Nice job.
I am amazed. You remind me of me. A perfectionist. No shortcuts, no BS. I love it ! Great job. That chainsaw is perfect, like new. Great job. I'm really impressed. I thought folks like you and I had become obsolete.
Really appreciate you watching my friend. People like us are still around we are just busy working. lol
Thanks for the nice comment as well.
People like you make doing videos like this worth it.
My Husq 365 just packed it in after almost 30 years of reliable service. I bought a brand new one to console my grief. The Stihl you are working on didn't get a lot of care, as soon as you gave it a pull I knew it would be a runner. Great job!
Nice informative video! One thing I love that you did was that you actually rebuilt the carb. So many people are just parts changers. I understand if you have a high volume repair shop, but the average person fixing something themselves needs to learn why it’s not working and how to fix it. Not just order an Amazon replacement.
The carb parts were stained by the liquid you used, swap it for one that's safe with alloys. Great vid!
A really great, well detailed video. Thanks for doing a wonderful job of explaining everything involved. I would like to add one important thing I tell people which is to let the saw warm up for a bit before full RPMs .This keeps the aluminum piston from expanding faster than the cast cylinder thus scoring it. All my 3 chainsaws came to me free from people who did'nt know this.
I never realised how high quality Stihl Chainsaws manufacture was
In my opinion, Stihl Chainsaws are the best. Thanks for watching.
I don't know I sure do love my old jonsered 630. She just keeps getting the firewood for us every summer since like 1988
german made Stihl's yes American made no way. I had 2 German made stihl's and the quality was outstanding. they got stole and replaced them and they were made in the US and the quality was total crap. quality between US made and German made are like the difference between night and day
@@chainsawace1777 ECHO JAPAN BEST CHEINSAW ☝️
I have a stihl from 1999 Never had issues with it I cut firewood every year
Best rebuild and clean video on TH-cam. Looks like new. Well done.
How he is able to put everything back together again is amazing to me. Thanks
That’s my saw! Bought her in 2012 for $389 at McGinley’s in Alcoa, TN (Knoxville). She still runs like a champ. The good ole Farm Boss. Love it! ❤
I don’t have a Stihl…but the presentation pulled me in, almost therapeutic. Great renovation job too.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you found the video almost therapeutic-I guess I should consider shooting my next video in front of a waterfall for an extra tranquil vibe! Maybe we can turn chainsaw restorations into a new form of relaxation therapy. 😂 Seriously though, I appreciate your kind words and I'm happy you enjoyed the video.
I am a retired small engine mech. I really enjoyed the video. Thanks.
Thank you Mark. I really appreciate your nice comment.
I'm now officially retired as a mechanic as well. We've been in business for 42 years but an opportunity to exit came up. So we did.
Now I'm just doing this for fun.
I have tons of awesome stuff for the channel planned. I hope you stick around to see it and give me feedback.
Have a great day my friend.
Awesome job rebuilding this saw. You did a fantastic job
Wow, thanks! Really appreciate it.
Going to Alaska. Am buying all new Stihl equipment. With videos like this, how can I go wrong? Proper maintenance out in the wilderness is absolute and may keep me from having to buy two of everything! HEY MAN, THANKS!
Thank you for the nice comment and watching. Have a great day. Watch out for bears and White Walkers up there north of the wall! (GAME OF THRONES REFERENCE ).
I played this to fall asleep to. Very soothing for a man like me
Nice! Thanks for watching!
Absolutely incredible. The most in-depth tear down and rebuild I have ever seen. Well done.🤘
Outstanding and thorough demonstration embedded with a number of DO NOTS. Well Done
Awesome job! That’s a saw that’d be hard to sell and anyone should be proud to own.
I own a MS 271 farm boss. It doesn’t get a lot of use, but after each job I clean everything thoroughly and sharpen the chain.
This is exactly what my newest hobby has become. Started with an old 066 and have now grown to bringing 26 saws back to life. Great video and really good info my friend👊🏼
I was glued to your video which was brilliant. You are a natural and very skilful tradesman. Well done and thank you for sharing
Thank you very much for the awesome comment and watching our video. Our next video is a few days away, but it should be a good one. Thanks again!
WOW!!! THANKS, FOR THIS GREAT, INFORMATIVE/EDUCATIONAL DEMO VIDEO!!I HPWEVER,... I DOUBT THAT ANYONE TEARS DOWN THEIR CHAINSAW, ENTIRELY, AFTER EVERY USE, JUST TO "CLEAN IT".....
Of course nobody is expected to disassemble their saw to this level every time they use it. Periodic maintenance, after every use, will keep their saw from getting to this point. This was an extreme case. I think it was Ben Franklin that said "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
My God you did such a beautiful job on that old boy I would put it in a glass case in my living room and let people come look at it.That was for sure not your first rodeo. Great job. 😀
ADD: Many moons ago as a younger man we cut and sold wood to the tourists for firewood. Very first thing we did upon returning home was to clean the chain saw. Bar off chain was set aside to sharpen and we just used gasoline to get her cleaned. Better stuff now but gas worked just fine. Gave it a pretty good cleaning then fuel and oil and ready for the next day. Weekend was deep cleaning day if we were not working. We cared for our saws and they never let us down. Stihl saws like a diesel locomotive they just keep chugging. 👍
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm thrilled to hear you enjoyed the video. It's always rewarding to bring an old chainsaw back to life and make it look and perform like new.
I really appreciate you sharing your story. It’s amazing to hear about your experiences and the care you took with your chainsaws. Stihl saws indeed are like diesel locomotives-reliable and tough.
Thanks again for your wonderful comment and for sharing your memories! 👍😀
It's as simple as that! 54 minutes of pure pleasure. Thank you. Happy and safe cutting.
One of the best videos of its kind....Well done!
How come you put the throttle wide open for the compression test?
In reality I have yet to see the difference between wide open throttle and closed throttle.
However, I made a video a while back when I tested compression with a closed throttle. I was almost strung up in the comments. lol.
Here is the best description I have seen for as to do WOT.
This was pulled from arboristsite.com "If the throttle is closed, the cylinder fills with less than a full charge of air -- that's what the throttle is there for. So there's a vacuum (i.e. lower absolute pressure) in the cylinder. Then the piston compresses the vacuum, so the peak pressure in the cylinder is less than it would be if the cylinder had been allowed to draw in its full volume."
Thanks for commenting and watching.
If you don't open the throttle to full, the engine cannot suck air to compress, hope that makes sense.
Chainsaw maintenance/repair Master class 🤌🏼
Really appreciate your nice comment. Thanks for watching!
Thank goodness ! Someone finally using a wide open throttle to give a compression test . Well done sir !
The Stihl MS 290 is a great homeowner saws, I have one and it's used for felling, bucking, limbing smaller trees.
Bought it in 2008, got away from regular gasoline after a carburetor rebuild, use only non ethanol gasoline mixed with Stihl HP synthetic mix oil, a shot of Seafoam, and a shot of Startron....., great video
One of the best videos on TH-cam. As a home owner what cleaning procedure do you recommend every time I sharpen my chain to avoid accumulation of dirt in the inner part of the chainsaw.
If I’m Lazy I break out the Pressure washer but if you do be careful where you use it’s force. Don’t go ruining Seals. Most of the ignition parts cope ok and I airblast the wet Saw . Don’t get water down the inlet or exhaust and do it on a cold Saw only ….
Great video! I bought an 036 30 years ago when I cleared land for my first house, then gave it to my father. Got it back when he passed and looking to fix it up. My bet is it has never been broken down and cleaned. I have my work cut out for me as it seems.
Very similar to MS271 that I did a good clean up (not as complete as here) last week. I used a 3000PSI pressure washer with white tip and kept a foot away. Degreaser, mainly thick bristle brush used. Impact driver used to open, not close screws. New chain, Oregon, similar fast cutting, and greater risk of kick back. Oil tank had to be significantly full before oil appeared on the port. No dipping in any liquid. Some ear wax in tough to clean spaces was removed. Some very minor ones left. Carb not removed. Area underneath carb inlet cleaned with pressure washer. New air filter. New gas. New bar oil. Thank you very much for sharing!
All I can do is change the spark plug and oil the chain. I don’t have any chain saw dissembling skills, so I enjoy watching experts like you. Excellent video.
things like that u should just do sometimes and learn.. Ive done a lot of moped/scooter tuning when i was in my teens.. little chainsaw motor doesnt faze me.
Keep at it! You'll be changing the carburetor in no time! Thanks for watching.
You are the only person I have heard suggesting to lift the guide bar when adjusting the chain tension and bar nuts. I have done this for years after seeing what a difference it can make when doing so.
Wow. Good work. Stihls are worth saving, and you brought that one back nicely.
Great job! Detailed explanations and well structured video. THANKS!!
I love getting hold of neglected old saws like this one that the owner has given up on. It usually doesn't take more than a good cleaning, a carb kit and other peripheral parts to get them running like new again. I once found a Stihl 034 beside a road in the national forest that somebody got pissed off at and threw away. After going through it my friend is still using it 10 years later.
My neighbor works at a metal recycling yard and he brought home two stihl farm boss chainsaws that were dirtier then this saw. He asked me if I would look at them and see if they were any good. I was a timber faller for years and did all the maintenance on my saws for many years so I agreed to look at them. First I took out the magneto that I found out is now called the ignition coil so it would get wet. I put a plastic baggie over the throat of the carb. To keep water out of the cylinder . These saws were so dirty it would of took hours to clean all the caked on dirt ,wood and oil out of the fins on the head and dirt every where. I took off the side plate ,the bar and the side plate for the starter rope. I then plugged the holes for the muffler. I took all the parts outside and used my pressure washer with a straight stream of water and it took a half hour to get all the crud off these saws . I drained the old gas ,removed and cleaned the float bowl and jets in the carb. I drained and flushed out the oil tank and chain oiler. After I blew the parts off with pressurized air ,resembled them and set the gap on the ignition coil I pulled the plug that looked new and sprayed foaming oil into the cylinders and turned them over to lube the rings and cylinder. I put gas in the saws and three pulls on both saw and they ran like new. They are great saws and look almost new except for a few scratches on the chain covers from someone not taking care to set the saw down right. I took before and after pictures and no one can believe they are the same saws.
My neighbor got two saws worth hundreds of dollars. He was so grateful he gave me one of the saws . I can't believe how someone would allow a expensive piece of equipment to be treated like this. I figure it was probably some landscape company with employees who don't care about someone else's property and the owner most likely felt it would cost more to clean and fix the saws so they dunked them and bought new ones. I told my neighbor if he finds anymore saws an if they turn over when he pulls the cord to bring them home and I'll work on them. He just brought home a craftsman 30 gallon air compressor that probably 20 years old. I plugged it in and the tank is solid, the compressor builds pressure to 150 pounds. The only things I can find wrong with it is one of the pressure gauges is broke that I replaced for 10 dollars and the quick disconnect on the 40 foot hose leaked that I replaced for 4 dollars. We washed it off fixed one of the wheels on the cart with a new cotter pin and he's now got a great compressor that has a metal tag that says it's made in the USA. It's most likely a lot better made compressor then the Chinese junk that's available today. People in our country have way to much money if they can afford to throw things away that only require a little attention . One thing I forgot to mention both saws had brand new chisel bits chains that had never been sharpened. One of those chains would cost 75 dollars. Amazing!!!!!
Best vid I've seen of all other sites. Was looking awhile back on how to disassemble an old 017 since I'm new to doing chainsaws. Found a vid and the nit disassemled it so fast and didn't explain anything it wasnt an instruction vid it was just him showing off. Wasted my time when all I wanted to do was learn. Gave him a real bad review. He came back whining about it and I answered with do bad vids get bad reviews. And thanked him for wasting my time twice.
Yours on the other hand. VERY nice, very informative, lots of tips, to the point. Perfect. also thanks for not boring me going on and on about stuff not having anything to do with dis and reassembling the rig. Some guys do and I just click out and comment "too much bla, bla, bla."
You and Chickanic are now my go to sites. 👍👍👍
Thank you, my girlfriends family likes to leave a bunch of junk around including (what i am guessing) a broken stihl chainsaw that was left in the dirt for a few years so i am going to try to clean it and fix it so this should really help. Also, that vid on how to do pressure and vacuum tests without the fancy thingamabob would be handy.
Nice one! Cleaning is always good, yet I have never come across a broken Stihl lol!
Impressing job. Professional recording and editing! Thank you
Thank you for generating and share this great video. 🌹
Thanks so much for the nice comment.
You're the man!!!. Lost me 1 minute in, but I would have taken photos to remind me where comes what. Very entertaining. Thanks.
Agreed;Always take lots of pictures; A picture is worth a thousand words; what you DO in your HASTE you will REGRET in your LEISURE)
Inspiring. I now know that I could have saved my old MS 230 . How long did this whole process take?
So how long does it take to assemble this saw in the factory. I assume it’s some kind of assembly line process.
I have a MS290 Farm Boss. Was very boggy and didn’t pull through the wood very good. Needed a carb overhaul after several years of use. I removed the high/low adjustment stops. Fine tuned the carb while it was in wood. It’s a whole different animal now.
Right on! Thanks for watching!
Well done. Very educational. You made that look easy.. I have now learned to leave my two stroke repairs to someone else.
Good job, I have the same saw, now I will tackle its strip down with confidence. Thank you Sir.🎉
So does the ultrasonic cleaner taking the finish off of the carburetor, have any effect on it?!!
The ultrasonic cleaner will not remove the finish of a carburetor if you use a safe solution.
La's Totally Awesome Degreaser and Simple Green work great for me and have never affected a carburetor negatively for me.
However, let me say this. If you run multiple cycles at maximum heat, you could loosen some of the Welch plugs on the carburetor. These plugs are glued in and can come loose if heated for too long of a period. 1 to 2 cycles are fine though.
Thanks for watching. Have a great day.
Great video. I have a MS290 from when my dad passed and it needs a little bit of love. I was really hoping that you would go through the oiler and check it, I am not throwing oil when it's running. Your saw looks great now though.
It's as if it just came out of the factory yesterday!
Beautiful job, well done.
Thank you for watching and for the nice comment!
Have a great day!
I normally don't watch too many "how to" videos of this length all the way to end. I watched yours to end. I enjoyed your video. Mahalo sir.
What did you use to polish the plastic with?
One of the best clear videos really profecional
Wow, thanks! Really appreciate it.
Man!! I am amazed at all the parts that goes into this old misused chain saw! You are very good at this complicated work!
Appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching and commenting. Have a great day.
You seriously think this is complicated?
This is a very good video. Thank you for sharing it. You mentioned cleaning your saw after every use. Obviously its not practical to completely disassemble the saw to this extent-how do you recommend cleaning the saw to prevent this amount of buildup? Could you make a video for routine use cleaning?
What did you use to polish the plastic with
Really great in-depth disassemble & reassemble Thanks!!
I really appreciate you watching and commenting! Thank you!
Awesome video. I just use an impact to take off the clutch without the rope or piston stop on our saws. Should I not be doing this?
this must me the most extensive chainsaw restoration video I have ever seen. What an amazing job. I would never have the patience to go through all of that. Enjoy your new saw. By the way, what is the advantage of the new sprocket you installed? It must be something you have thought about, so I am interested to learn more. The new, lighter bar and yellow chain seem fairly obvious, but I have never seen anything about the sprocket upgrade. Thanks!
What kind of soap do you use for cleaning?
Hello I enjoyed watching you tear this chainsaw down from Northern Ontario. It’s way beyond what I could do but it at least showed me many of the things I needed to do to keep my MS170 clean and running great. I saw that you used Evaporust and I’d like to let you know that there is a guy on TH-cam that mixed his own rust removing solution that was a fraction of the cost of Evaporust costing only a few dollars. It was made with common household items and lasted longer,
was more effective and lasted for many more uses compared to Evaporust. He used 1L of water to 100grams of Citric Acid. He pointed out that you could substitute the Citric Acid with the either one of following:
*40 grams of Sodium Carbonate (Arm and Hammer Washing Soda)
*63 grams of Sodium Bicarbonate (Arm and Hammer Baking Soda)
*30 grams of sodium hydroxide ( Caustic Soda)
This will save you tons of money same as when you use vegetable oil instead of mineral oil. I’ll find a link to his TH-cam video.
Great rebuilt by the way!
Nice restoration. The carburator turned dark after the ultrasonic cleaning. Is that an issue for worry?
You really ARE The ChainSawAce. Thanks 💛
LOL.
Awesome video, I recently started to use my dads older MS 290, I give it a good dust off with compressed air after each use but thanks to your video I'll try a more thorough cleaning in fall. Also I have a question: I dust off my oil and gas caps with a brush before refill to minimize the amount of debris that might fall in but last time I did for the bar oil cap a small square piece of plastic came flying out from under the handle next to the cap. It was about 0,5 x 0,5 inch and quite flat, I assume it was a pad that fits between the handle and the body of the saw but I cant seem to find it anywhere in the owner's manual. Unfortunately I lost it somewhere and I am looking for a replacement, any idea what I am talking about?
Hey! Thank for watching and commenting. What color was the plastic? What was the shape of it?
@@chainsawace1777 Hello, thank you very much for the reply. It was black, square shaped, maybe 2-3 mm thick, 2 opposite sides were straight, 2 opposite were rounded bulging outwards. I had a good look at it and thought I put it in my pocket but I must have dropped it.
Hmm, I'm not sure what that could be. Are the fuel caps on your saw black? Some of the earlier 029/290 models had non-flip black fuel and oil caps. It might be part of the inner lining of the oil cap or possibly the annular buffer, which is also black. The annular buffers are the small anti-vibration components located where the handle meets the engine housing. Each one should have a cap covering its hole. Considering the limited amount of black on a 290, this seems likely to be what you're looking for. Google MS290 Annular Buffer Caps.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to reply. I have Googled it and it looks similar, I'll check the saw I am at my parents again. I assume it is not a "mission critical" part but if it is what is missing I'll order a replacement. I really appreciate your help.
What polish do you use for the plastics?
Turned out great, thanks
Fantastic video! Thanks for posting! It has a lot of detail missing in most other disassembly/assembly videos. I bookmarked this one so as not to lose it.
Much love. I have a new one dropping probably tonight or in the morning. Thanks for watching my friend!
Thanks
Thank you so much! You are the very first Super Thanks we've ever received. Means so much. It tells me were on the right track. I really can't thank you enough.
Do you clean like this when you say ckean your saw after every use? Or just bliw clean?
When I say to clean your saw after every use, I mean giving it a quick clean each time. This includes blowing and wiping off any buildup of bar oil, dirt, and grime. Pay attention to cleaning around the oiler hole, the air filter, the carburetor compartment, the bar, and the chain. By taking a little time to do this after each use, you can prevent your chainsaw from reaching the condition shown in this video, which required a deep clean. Thanks for watching!
@@chainsawace1777 Ok thank you?!
What do you charge for this service?
I have no problem taking this apart but putting it back together & the right way is a different story.
This level of service would be impossible to charge. It would simply be too much. This is my chainsaw now, it was given to me, and I wanted to show the complete repair and cleaning process to you guys.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Nothing's impossible, clearly the commenter would pay for a service like this. How many hours did this take?
I do this for used saws I sell on eBay and I usually profit more than stihl does on brand new new units. By doing this. 150-200$ profit is what I shoot for on mid range units.
The real profit comes in the special cleaners and restoration agents I use they restore the plastic itself for many months to come. Taking away years of abuse and neglect in a few sprays and some scrubbing.
In most cases the vacuum test is completely unnecessary I’ve seen 5 saws in 20 years with seal or case issues
Masterful. This was an awesome watch, better than ASMR, Thank you.
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Agreed great video, but the muffler portion audio was like nails on a chalkboard for me. The rust on thin metal for some reason makes my boys go into my gut. LOL
I’ve never had a husqvarna but imo they’re the best
I figure if the previous owner owned a nice chainsaw like this MS 290 he most likely has a nice collection of equipment...mower, weed eater, leaf blower ect. I bet we can all guess what kind of shape they all end up being when he gets frustrated and buys a new one. I've seen some dirty neglected equipment in my days but this may be the worst yet! Enjoyed the video and I'm happy to to be your newest subscriber! Good job Ace!
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How much does your shop charge for this exact same service for a Stihl MS 260 chain saw?
This level of service is not something I can really charge a customer. Not just me, but any small engine shop. With industry labor rates averaging $70 to $100 per hour, even higher in some cases, it would be cost prohibative. The labor, parts and fees would more than likely exceed more than half, or close to it, the cost of a new chainsaw.
This repair and cleaning took a while to complete. I'm not even sure how long it took.
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Hello, Very nice and detailed. What would one expect to pay for this service? Thank you. j
Is there a method for cleaning and testing the Euler?
Excellent video, your experience dismantling and reassembling is quite obvious!😊
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Great! I have a 40-50 yo Stihl 036 which looks just like the model you are working on. If I ever need to do a complete tare down, this is the video! I keep my air filter clean and do a lot of lub, but for about 45 years, it just work. On my 10 acres, there is some use every year but not intensive. Just a little maintenance and fresh fuel and it always works well. I love my chain saw. I also love the more agressive Oregon chains. I want chips, not dust.👍
Sthil saws are amazing quality products my one and only saw is a 1995 Sthil 026 which has served me incredibly well over the years. They are well worth the care and attention shown here!
Good camera and angles. excellent vid. Great talk through.
awesome video man ... great to see a thorough tear-down like this one
Glad you enjoyed it! I've been away for a bit with life things. We have more coming in the near future that you will enjoy if you liked this one. Thanks again for the view and the nice comment.
@@chainsawace1777 Yeah your format is terrific and you've clearly got the knowledge
Though this was literally a brand new saw with just some grime and dust you did a nice job/video explaining the process. If you had done anything else, it's good you cleaned the cylinder ribs as good airflow (and clean carb) is the most important thing for the saw. I especially liked the idea to change the clutch to a newer rim style sprocket. You're an inspiration for me to finally fully rebuild my old 40 yr old Partner 5000 that has been sitting in the barn for yrs. Some comments:
1) I always disassemble and fully clean the springs on the starter unit. Especially cutting dry wood (like bark beetle killed trees). Fine saw dust really clogs up the whole mechanism. To lubricate I use Boeshield T-9 as it doesn't collect so much dust (I'd do the same for the throttle mechanism).
2) Was the rubber guide for the carb high/low screws lost/damaged/forgotten? Installed it makes adjusting the carb so much easier.
3) Dust/shavings/twigs and even sand/rocks will always enter the chain oil tank so I regularly empty/clean with some kerosene, blow with air (from reverse), and then check if it works/adjust without the bar/cover on.
4) On older machines I always check (and replace) the rubber gromets for the dampening mechanism. If one breaks during work it 'can' be dangerous.
5) As a logger for yrs I've never seen the need for those spiky attachments and just remove them ... but we all have our differences.
I did a compression test on my ms 290 stilh chain saw and got a reading of 40 psi. I did it 3 times and each time I got 40 psi. I poured a little gas into the cylindar and reinstalled the spark plug. It started and ran enough to burn all the fuel. The problem is it will not stay running. it as if no gas is coming through the carburetor but I have put a new carburetor on it and still have the problem. What am I missing? Please tell me if you can
Hey! Thanks for the view and the question.
40lbs of compression is really low. More than likely your rings or possibly rings and piston may be damaged. Remove the muffler so you can inspect the piston and rings. If the piston is not damaged you may can just replace the rings to get the saws compression back to normal. If the piston is damaged as well, it will also need to be replaced.
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Good job . Learned a few tips.
This is the most comprehensive video about repair that I've seen. It also demonstrates that time spent on maintaining a high quality tool is worth it. But I have a question - How is it that it's so easy for dirt to get into the innermost parts of the saw? It doesn't seem that it is easy to clean the saw after every use.
Thanks for the compliment on the video! I'm glad you found it helpful. Your question about dirt getting into the innermost parts of the saw is a good one. Chainsaws are exposed to tough conditions, so it's not surprising that dirt and debris can find their way inside.
I know it might seem like a hassle to clean the saw after every use, but focusing on key areas like the air filter, bar, chain, and oiler hole can really help. A quick clean after each use can save you from bigger, more time-consuming problems down the road.
Is it critical to have the piston at tdc for the vacuum/pressure test?
Yes, having the piston at TDC is important for pressure and vacuum tests.
It seals the ports completely, prevents leaks, protects the seals, and keeps things stable for accurate results.
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