Microsoft's Former CEO Says Disagreement With Gates on Smartphones Drove Them Apart
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- Nov. 4 -- Former Microsoft Chief Executive Officer Steve Ballmer joins host Emily Chang on "Bloomberg Studio 1.0" to discuss his relationship with Bill Gates.
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Ballmer: "I think I did some of my best work after Bill left, actually."
Emily: "Really?? Like what?"
Savage.
Azure is a distant third to AWS and GCE, for that matter. AWS didn't take anything over, they created it. AWS started the market. AWS owns the market. AWS is the market.
Azure is 2nd at ~10% marketshare. GCE is 3rd at less than 4%. I think you got the two switched around
Amazing
Bill treated Steve as Ed McMahon
Actually the Microsoft Cloud platform earns more revenue than AWS or GCE. People/Media merely look at the public "hosting" area and arrive at this misconception of AWS being "the King of Cloud Computing."
www.forbes.com/sites/bobevans1/2017/11/07/the-top-5-cloud-computing-vendors-1-microsoft-2-amazon-3-ibm-4-salesforce-5-sap
Steve Ballmer a.k.a the world’s luckiest roommate.
Indeed he is... But Bill also was lucky to have him too...!
Um....no
EVERY major decision he made was completely wrong!
Oh yeah.
Same could be said about Zuckerberg and Sergei Brin/Larry Paige.
" *DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVOLOPERS!* "
-This guy.
I came specially for this comment
Get over it.
Developers developers developers developers
he jumped on the stage like a hog on meth
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Ballmer poisoned Microsoft's corporate culture with the stacked ranking system, which resulted in every employee sabatoging each other so that they wouldn't end up on the bottom rank that gets fired. This led to tremendous problems with all of their software and hardware offerings while Balmer was CEO which only started to recover after his exit.
That rank-and-yank approach doesn't work for a relatively newer company like Microsoft, where talent and teamwork is needed to keep pushing them over the top. It's barely suitable for Amazon. It mainly makes sense for old companies like GE that have gone complacent, employ too many people, run too many businesses, and wasting too much money.
He hated Apple so much that employees were not allowed to bring an apple to eat for lunch at work.
and then they left and came to amazon and ruined that, too. It was crazy how fast amazon went down the shitter. I went to a training class at Amazon on "how to poach employees from other teams... except we don't call it that" -- that's what it SHOULD have been called at least. This was... maybe 2013?
You cannot handle software development like sales. Development takes time and iteration.
Agreed and glad to hear people talk about this. Peformance reviews by peers that are not sent back to the employee but his manager. What a 1984 concept. Very demotivating
If I invested in everything Ballmer said would have failed I would have been a millionaire by now.
Microsoft is the future. Invest in the company
Christopher Sacchi But Jeff Besos is the BOSS, CHAIR MAN, CEO, and etz combine. Ballmer was just a ceo which means almost nothing for example if you do bad at being the CEO the boss or chairman can kick you out. And Jeff Besos is the main owner of his company.
CSHARP wow. Comparing the net worth of CEOs of 2 very different companies as a metric for company value. You should be embarrassed for even attempting to sound like you know what you're talking about.
the iPhone is not a good email machine cause it doesn't have a keyboard.. - Balmer.
+CSHARP Only On Paper...
I'm glad he's a team owner now. He seems more like a basketball coach than a CEO of a tech company.
He always seemed like a wrestling coach to me.
@@MatthewAGilbert I would say a janitor position at McDonald's would be more fitting.
Doesn’t matter what you think lol he’s the reason they had courage man pumped all his net friends up
He looks like a minor character from The Office.
Ex-Microsoft here. Zero innovation came from Microsoft during the entire time Steve Ballmer was the CEO. All heads of major product groups are MBA number crunching types loaded up with tech lingos but zero intuition and insights.
The only thing Microsoft ever invented was the EULA.
@The Absolute Madman oh come now. It can't be that bad, can it? I wouldn't know. I run Linux.
@The Absolute Madman I don't think windows 10 is that bad
The Absolute Madman same!
Steve B gave away internet browser dominance and the mobile phone market was literally on his laps. What a beauty this guy is.
After Bill left, this clown nearly tanked the company until he was forced out by other major shareholders. The main thing that kept them afloat during that time was the OS monopoly that Bill created.
Ballmer engineered the contract with IBM which was the biggest swindle in history. He's the one who made the big ask. Getting that is what made Microsoft huge.
Yet Balmer drove the company throughout it's key stages
okay, but no. Nobody wanted to pay ridiculous prices for office and an operating system when you get a free operating system on your phone, and the free apps have more features than a $500 version of office. Steve Balmer started to address that
Don't diss Steve
As I see it, monopolizing the OS market for IBM PCs was the single most important operation in Microsoft history and one of the most influential and significant step in all of IT business. Whatever Microsoft positions are will always be the result of this and everything else they ever did or decided to do or participated in is just fooling around, comparatively, it almost doesn't matter in the big picture.
Guys, we wouldn't have Bing if this guy wasn't in charge. Show some respect.
lolz
I get what you are saying but if it is so easy to topple the verb, then who else us has succeeded in this space? Perhaps you are saying they should not have bothered trying?
Good one lmao.
No one needs bing. Everyone needs Google or any other private search engine.
Bing? What's that?
this man will be remembered for the iphone comment. that's it, he will go down in history as the guy who laughed at the most successful product of all times.
Yeah too bad he has billions...The reason he said that is because Apple is their competitor.Why anyone from Microsoft would say something good about apple?So by definition he would say crap about them.
By your logic Intel should be praising AMD and saying AMD is the future etc. Are you braindead? This is the business world, not babytime daycare.
I think that award should go to Xerox execs. They literally threw away the future.
Fabrizio Marcetti most successful product of all time? Are you a lunatic? Emojis excited you much?
RPDBY It is actually the most successful product of all time. Go and check, Apple has sold over a billion iPhones (I think it’s 1.2 billion right now and still counting) and they don’t seem like stopping anytime soon. Even the Rubik’s cube didn’t sell this much. Believe it or not, the iPhone is the best selling product in human history.
Can't understand how Microsoft couldn't deliver a phone OS that could sync seamlessly with Windows PCs and sew up the business market at least. They even lost to Blackberry.
Because Windows is not seamless to begin with. It is built on Registry and DLL hell. It was never designed for fluidity. It has been several years, there is still no fluidity between a Windows PC vs Windows Tablet.
Lowell Abraham there are windows tablets?
@@lowellabraham6966 would preventing user access to registry and grp policy make things better? , Provided windows gave optimal settings initially. Does that make sense I'm just asking
I think their worst mistake was going with the Windows brand on their phones.
Microsoft beat them ... In 2002 with Windows CE and pocket PC apps. The mistake Microsoft makes is they win a battle and assume they won the war and let competitors come in. Internet Explorer and Windows are other examples. MS just couldn't handle the onslaught of mobile oses, iOS, Android, and Google Chrome. Windows Microsoft is struggling and only MS Office is safe
Ballmer is the prime example of why no engineering company should ever put a sales guy as a CEO. Microsoft was at its worse when Ballmer was in charge.
Have you heard a little known guy named Steve Jobs?
Unfair comparison. Jobs knew way more about the product and its inner workings. He was a computer guy turned visionary marketing guru.
yep. I liked that documentary about him th-cam.com/video/R_nuZD4Y7IM/w-d-xo.html
then why was he CEO for 14 years?
Jobs couldn't code and had no understanding of engineering beyond logistical delineation; i.e., this feature should look like this, the ui should accomplish this. He was a marketing and sales guy. Being such a proxy for the consumer was probably part of apple's product genius at the time: if the ui aggravated steve, it almost certainly aggravated the consumer; if maneuvering the product confused steve, it almost certainly confused the consumer. @@toyjams
the best work ballmer did was leave.
He was okay but didn't give quality products consistently . The first Surface was trash, Xbox 360 was catching fire when it initially released. Windows Vista was crap and Nokia and mobile Windows was also crap.
Exactly. Microsoft was certainly more profitable after he left, but they were substantially behind tech giants of the time and lacked innovation. Makes sense considering he was a businessman, not a technologist. Thank god for Nadella.
na na agreed
@@abbasakbar6597 But still he made MS revenue triple . That's something he was not a innovator . Businessman do make mistakes Larry Ellison, Steve jobs all made mistakes.
@@abbasakbar6597 at least he started the surface line. It's a vision he started even if the tech wasn't quite mature.
She looks like she is trying not to laugh in his face when he talks about his successes. 🤣
@@kevindsmith10000 My point is that I do not see why someone who has accomplished very little in life would mock others even if they have not accomplished as much as they might have. Steve Ballmer may have accomplished more, but what has Emily Chang accomplished. To her credit she did not mock him she was just there to interview him.
1:22 that face LOL
Ballmer doesn’t care he’s worth $72 billion...
That's because for each little "success" he really failed in the biggest market of the 21st century, the mobile market. And his ultimate foray into mobile was incredibly late, and poorly thought out and poorly implemented. When Apple, Google, and even RIM kind of had more foresight into the mobile industry than Microsoft, and they were notoriously unable to change with the market. There iPhone was a game changer, and Microsoft, specifically Ballmer, wrote it off as a one hit wonder. It was incredibly short sighted at a time when it was absolutely crucial. Even now, Microsoft can't really get into the game, their Surface phone runs Android, that's about the ultimate acknowledgement that there will never be another Windows Phone again.
And it may also have far reaching consequences for the future of Windows. As Microsoft focuses on porting their services to Android and Linux, it could mean at some point Microsoft just makes Windows another Linux distribution as they basically exit the operating system market altogether and focus on making services and hardware that run open source software. I don't think that would be the direction Microsoft was going in today had they made a viable Mobile OS that was leading the market.
That said I don't think Microsoft is going anywhere. They may look pretty different today than they did years ago, but they are still a cornerstone of the business and consumer markets, and will be for a long time yet. And I don't see the current iteration of Windows changing all that much. But it will be interesting to see the future of NT, and if they keep developing it, open source it, or just scrap it and put the Linux kernel inside future editions of Windows.
She was being a mean b-tch with her questions. Why do you even invite someone if all you’re going to do is try to ridicule them? I’m glad Steve kept his cool. And I say it as an Apple fan. At the end of the day he’s a billionaire and she’s not.
Ballmer historically probably one of the worst CEOs ever
Not true. He inherited a huge mess from Bill Gates.
Have you seen GE?
Can I introduce you to Jeffrey Immelt of GE.
Microsoft's stock rose almost 17% under his tenure. It became during that time and still remains the highest market cap software company in the world. You know not from what you speak.
Cody Morley -.62 average annual return during his CEO tenure at Microsoft. Facts Matter. S&P average return was 3% annually
He was the most creative CEO that I'd ever seen in terms of releasing one's anger
Those are called tantrums if you are not a white male.
Let's be real. Steve would be selling Buicks (albeit a lot of them) had he never met Bill.
And he would be screaming "MECHANICS - MECHANICS - MECHANICS!!!" xD
...and insisting that Toyota wasn’t going to go anywhere.
@@rokyericksonroks hehehe indeed
@@DeerKoden the guy graduated from harvard and was amongst the best in his class...
This guy got a perfect score on the SAT. As a car salesperson who didn’t I doubt that lol.
Still clueless after all these years.
you said it !!!!
The guy didn't just inherit Bill's position, but his sweaters by the looks of it.
This is the kind of guy that you don't know how the hell he is not only your boss but also has a high position inside the company and then from time to time, very often actually, thanks to his "ideas" things go wrong and nobody points it's finger to him. I really don't get it how incompetent people get this far.
He is a good guy in real life. Like a little too good for Microsoft if you get what I mean.
@@slob5041He seems like a guy who doesn't take no for an answer and could be quite intimidating when he wants to be. Age and retirement tends to soften people over time so he's pretty chill now but I bet he was ruthless when he was in his prime.
@@Cyba_IT Good analysis. You need intelligence of course, more than that, you need risk taking ability and the willingness to retry. But most of all, you need a certain presence. As much as people may disagree, looks matter a lot. If you see a beach and there are seagulls, crows, and a bald eagle and you were asked who is the leader there. Would you pick a seagull? That's why some people just magically bubble up to the top.
He is anything but incompetent. He helped grow one of the biggest and wealthiest companies in history. You are in no position to judge him based on what you have accomplished (which is absolutely nothing).
Is this guy the one who messed up the whole Microsoft ?
wen li ritchie lee yep
No... like Steve Jobs did with his company but indirectly... it has to shake up and be shaped
That would be Satya Nadella.
@@s0ul216 Microsoft became more profitable with Satya...
Yeah pretty much. Turned it into shit with Windows Metro and Bing and bloatware and a general nightmare for anyone in IT.
He made windows 8. Let that sink in.
No. The employees repeated windows 7 adapted for windows phone and call it windows 8. Steve Ballmer was worried with more important stuff for the company that Bill didn't see and he saw and now it's done, he is out of the CEO position because their "baby" needs whoever it takes to keep Microsoft going with their vision that is mostly Bill's. They stalled in the surface to prepare for the future surface (which is coming after this whole smartphone business blunder). Think about holograms...! That's why Windows had to stall, we are still using technically the same Win7 base after vista it never changed in any fundamental levels. You can see the difference on the NT kernels. One can easily use Windows 7 with linux and be ahead of anyone using windows 10 or 11... IDK but there must be some new kind of kernel basis for a holographic computer user interface... and nobody else than Microsoft knows this particularly better... even Apple bows down to this because it's the unix infrastructure we use still now.
There was a windows 7 or 8?
He Metro and Bing. And indirectly Cortana
What windows 10 is miles better than windows 8. Maybe 7 but we can't see it yet because we are nostalgic cunts.
@Shopster Emeritus Bird shit
He was a salesman and could sell tons of what Microsoft traditionally made (hence profits going up up up). However, technology companies really need visionaries at the helm given how fast the sector changes, which is why the stock price stagnated.
He didn't tell us how he feels about developers.
ikr I'm sad
he said "To infinity and beyond"
hahaha He can thank Steve Jobs for that
Well really Jobs bought Pixar to make 3D interfaces for NEXT, he didn't give a shit about Toy Story. He just slapped his name on it when it was done and took credit.
flowerlandfilms Well Pixar was losing money when he bought it, his own money actually, and he still chose to keep it. You gotta give him credit for that. Not a lot of people would have done that.
And Steve jobs couldnt fund Apple without Windows saving their ass.
The circle is round again
@@annekedebruyn7797 And Microsoft would have never been a company without both Apple's support in the beginning and Apple's embrace when Microsoft was being sued for anti-trust when Jobs came back . Both these companies needed each other and both saved each other. If Apple had chosen to get an investment from another company other than Microsoft, then MS might not be the company it is today because it would have been broken up.
@suny123boy1 How so?
Well he was not a horrible CEO, just a very average one. Really horrible CEOs destroy their own companies (like Marissa Meyer destroyed Yahoo), Ballmer didn't destroy Microsoft. He left MS in a pretty reasonable shape. He just lacked general intuition where the whole tech industry is going to that's why most of his decisions were either hit or miss.
So here is how that conversation should have gone:
Ballmer: Some of my best work was after Bill left Microsoft actually.
Lady: Reaaallly? Like what?
Ballmer: You know...I left Microsoft.
Good one 🤣
Ballmer: "I think I did some of my best work after Bill left, actually."
Emily: "Really?? Like what?"
Ballmer : "Pushes into bing..." (my head exploded on this affirmation)
She was being a mean b-tch with her questions. Why do you even invite someone if all you’re going to do is try to ridicule them? I’m glad Steve kept his cool. And I say it as an Apple fan. At the end of the day he’s a billionaire and she’s not. Ugh I’m angry.
@@TheRafark lol what?
Steve actually explains his biggest mistake without even realising. Clarifies his "iPhone won't sell comment" with he didn't see how Apple could sell $600/700 phones and then explaining how they cleverly did it by building it into the provider contracts. That's what he should have seen though...
Ballmer was terrible. He essentially tenured the "lost decade" of MSFT.
Steve, you forgot the Zune...after Bing lol.
Steve Ballmer: Devolpers, developers, developers. That will be his legacy.
He probably thinks of developers and other tech IT guys as some kind of salesmen. That's what he personally is after all, basically a used car salesperson...
When I see this guy speaking and being a billionaire, wow. Guys we all have a shot. Keep showing up.
mgtazco 😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
yeah...a highschool valedictorian,isb graduate top of his class,harvard magna cum laude graduate,stanford mba dropout all before he co founded microsoft...yeah sure the guy in so dumb right?...if you think you have 1/10 of the brain capacity of steve ballmer you are highly mistaken sir.
0:05
Wrong
Bill was the father and mother.
Steve, you were a good babysitter. At best.
Like the babysitter who falls asleep while the kid noses around the kitchen cabinet then wakes up just before they drink a whole jug of Bleach
No he is the douchebag boy friend the mom dates
As dog
I always thought Paul was a father figure in Microsoft.
Paul Allen and Bill Gates were the father and mother. I don't know why people forget about Paul.
Just like Steve Wozniak at Apple.
“I started a company at $2.2 million in revenue and left the company at $22 billion in revenue”
Dude this guy’s sense of self importance and the role he played in Microsoft’s success is just so incredibly out of sync.
Microsoft’s stock skyrocketed as soon as he left.
idontcare4490 he’s worth 72b. I doubt your opinion matters to him
Me and Wayne Gretzky are the highest scoring hockey duo of all time 😂😂
Ballmer is a stooge, and was a poor replacement for Allen, but is hard for two bright minds and egos to have work for that much time as they did. We all see Ballmer as he truly is.
whats that got to do with 2.2m-22b... if its out of sync its underplayed.. id say he was vital
The stock rise before and after he was there, literally, he was a 14 year liability the company
Most chaotic time at Microsoft. There were rate slabs so you couldn't get paid a dollar more, but starting and shutting down projects abruptly for no good reasons was the norm.
Best thing he did was leave. Fully delusional about his contributions.
How you know that
@@os8051 Because almost every single decision he made for the company at the time proved to be a gigantic flop.
one of the worst ceo's of all time and now a straight billionaire.
@Jagnoor Sandhu No that sort of thinking affects all of us. I'd much rather 100 undeserving make a fortune, than for 1 person who gave it their all to not have that chance. No one should have fortune stripping power. However he should be held accountable, for whatever he does.
@Jagnoor Sandhu Yeah, I agree. I'm sure he's a reasonably intelligent person. But, no where near the level you need to be in charge of Microsoft. He's a little to belligerent, he gives me a child like naive vibe. And, I don't think he was the right choice. Nadella, seems like the right guy though.
@Jagnoor Sandhu Kinda dumb though? He made mistakes but Steve Ballmer is still head and shoulders smarter than A LOT of people give him credit for. The foresight to invest in Cloud technology was tremendous. He was CEO of Microsoft for over a decade and has been a billionaire for an even longer period of time. There are geniuses who haven't accomplished half of what he's done in his lifetime.
@@CobraAquinas Your assessment is just....sigh.
He already became a multi-millionaire when Microsoft went public in 1986.
Steve Ballmer will always be remembered as a guy who got the important decisions wrong.
This is the man who laughed at the iPhone and said it would never sell)
For sure, the iPhone was far more expensive than the other "smartphones" available back in 2007, but it seems everyone (other than Ballmer) could see the iPhone's potential...
Steve Ballmer is a bit (a lot) like the man at Decca Records in 1962 who turned down The Beatles.
Give him some credit: He agreed to front over $2B in repairs for the Xbox 360 during the RRoD period that saved the Xbox brand.
Having been up close to MSFT during those years Ballmer got some big things wrong absolutely - but people overlook something - he kept investing in cloud year after year without profit or seemingly any gain - but when it did take off Microsoft were well positioned - it could have been a pivot for when the Office franchise lost to a new cloud - but they didnt.
Somebody turned down the Beatles? Boy I didn´t know that! Reminds me of many meetings where Mark Zuckerberg had Facebook turned down!! According to that movie.
Beatles is just a decent band that was put on the hype wagon by smart business people. Could have been any other band with their potential (many). If Decca Records would have signed them, Beatles path would have been different, maybe to the point of never meeting fame.
@@ChPetru If that´s your take on the Beatles, you don´t know anything about music, society and culture. But yes, there was another band at the same level competing with the Beatles at the time, and their name is Rolling Stones. So the Stones too were lucky? I don´t think so.
I appreciate Steve being humble and admitting areas he realized in hindsight he could have done better. We all make mistakes and it's good to see people be able to publicly admit them rather than trying to always pass the buck.
very well said!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for saying this’
He wasn't being humble, he WAS HUMBLED, let's get that straight. He was laughing at the iphone because it was $500 without a keyboard, he realized that he was an "id!ot" for doing so, hence the HUMBLENESS. If microsoft/nokia was a success im pretty sure he would be singing a different tune he would still be bragadocious and condescending.
I don't see him admitting anything.
@@BLAKEEATS1988 trust me he could not care less. He is a business man, not a public figure. His priorities is making money, not having a good 'image'. He does not make money from what you think about him. So, he trully doesnt care at all, hence he is humble to just not brag about it. He could have said: "well, yes I was wrong but still I made decisions that brought me billions". What he said tho was "i wish i started earlier". I dont see him being humbled at all
Hey Ballmer! here is a quote from Warren Buffett that applies to you "I try to invest in businesses that are so wonderful that an idiot can run them. Because sooner or later, one will. Good riddance!!
Car salesman.
magna cum laude at harvard + best student in the first semester at stanfort hired by one of the major companies for a top end job. yeah, car salesman.
PastorNolte Boyo doesn't know what a joke is.
@@xyzzzzz01 if you just keep that aside and listen to him properly, you will see that.... he is an idiot.
Jazztifier nailed it! He’s the Bob Lutz of Silicon Valley.
@@xyzzzzz01 he looks like a car salesman
His reaction to the iPhone was a crystallization of what people felt about Balmer for a long time, he was a clown. It wasn't until he said out loud what people already thought about his "talent".
As he was laughing at the iPhone, Steve & Tim were on the way to $1T *years* before MSFT even came close. He is to blame for Microsoft losing their #1 spot, and they’re still feeling it.
He doesnt seem like a bad guy but he was a bad CEO
He is a bad guy, so many anti consumer antics with Microsoft and Xbox; Microsoft is on a role with Steve Balmer and Dom Mattrick gone.
@@Okay-cd6be he's anti consumer behavior was, in my eyes, due to bad ceoing.i remember some ex MS employees saying he was "a good guy but a hard head boss" or smth like that
What? Phone subsides were around LONG before the iPhone. In fact, Apple was trying to move away from them, which was so unsuccessful that they dropped the price by $200 after mere months. Within a year they were subsidized with the exact same model as every other phone had been before it.
1:23 she's like "who's bing?"
Drawing the stock price of Microsoft on log paper with different colors for each CEO, really makes Gates look good and Ballmer look absolutely hillariously bad. Those are the facts.
I greatly appreciate Steve for bringing Bing to Windows so I can download Chrome.
Well he also put in spyware and malware built into the operating system for you, so it will make sure to constantly plead with you to use microsoft edge.
Ballmer - created *BING* / laughed at *iPhone* 🤦🏻♂️
MSFT went from $40 to $40 from 2000-14 during Ballmer’s reign and has risen to $336 in the years after him, which speaks plenty.
Her question "REALLY? Like WHAT?" 😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This man is a prime example of it's not what you know but rather who you know to becoming rich.
Only half true. Bill Gates is no dummy. Bill needed Steve for his
company's businesses for whatever that was.
This guy almost crashed Microsoft. Microsoft survived and thrived because it's a giant company, otherwise it would have drowned
Oh. Jack Barker. This is him from Silicon Valley 😂
That's so funny, and so true.
Barker just wanted his damn box.
Ballmer wanted his damn hardware.
Steve never got the credits he deserved. He was crucial in getting the deal done with IBM which virtually paved the future for Microsoft. He's been extremely loyal to the company ever since he joined. Do people really believe Bill would have picked Steve if he hadn't been convinced of his capabilities. But some people who might not like Steve's demeanor will argue "he's the luckiest roommate in history"
His who would ever buy an iPhone rant was one of the best examples of the misunderstanding of business
Nadella is so much better.
Indians are not any better. You only got 2 OS in the world: Microsoft and Mac. So even an Indian can ride on that success.
Linux?
mel saint I thought when satya took on the role of CEO Microsoft under ballmer was a massive failure and satya did manage to make Microsoft relevant again.
you must be pink. BTW I'm Indian.
What about the intrusive windows 10? It's like google where it mines you with all your data and you're fine with it?
@@alfredhitchcock45 the stock rose up when Nadella took over.
He revived Microsoft. And you're bashing Indians for that. Lmao
Ballmer Allen and Gates were the trio behind Microsoft. Allen was the genius in the company like Wozniak in Apple. Gates had very good knowledge in programming and computers. However the knowledge of Ballmer in computers was very limited and when he took the control of Microsoft nothing really impressive happened. Microsoft have the chance in 2003 to dominate the smartphone market but with Balmer later Microsoft lost a very lucrative sector due to his ignorance.
Bing is actually profitable for Microsoft. Siri uses Bing's services, as an example of where Bing generates revenue from.
Also isn't 30% of all internet searches done through Bing? Lots of people don't care to install Google on their windows laptops / computers
Everyone is ripping on him for Bing, but no one is mentioning Azure- one of the most successful cloud services in the world. Steve Ballmer doubled Microsoft's profit from 2000 to 2014. He is certainly not incompetent.
Azure isn't particularly successful. Not compared to AWS. Also profits for any company improve over time and especially for a tech company during the 2000s. But Microsoft should be at the top. But they aren't. They've been stagnant. Look at Apple. Love me or hate em. They went from almost broke to 2 trillion. But this time a lot of it was actually down to Cook. He actually is very underrated. He's no Steve Jobbs but look at something like the Apple Watch or AirPods. Both completely dominate their respective sectors.
Meanwhile Balmer has been obsessed with profits and pleasing shareholders. Failed miserably with the mobile sector. Remember that iPhone interview?
Also Azure is neither here nor there. Windows became a mess. He literally screwed the pooch
@@kav12ab Azure is the second most popular cloud service in the world and generated over $10B in revenue last year. Saying Azure isn't "particularly successful" is like saying Apple isn't successful because it's "merely" the second most popular mobile vendor (Samsung is #1).
I'm not suggesting Ballmer is a genius, I'm just contesting the accusation that he's incompetent.
@@kav12ab Guys like you clearly dont work in cloud/platforming teams
Does he pay you to suck his c, or you do it for free?
Balmer is lucky and incompetent in that space.
Microsoft's rebound after Ballmer left shows that he should have been shown the door long before he was booted out. This was obvious to me (and everyone) but my phone never rang to ask my advice. Instead I sold my stock.
Ballmer wanted to invest in DEVELOPERS, but Bill didn't want to. True story.
This guy said that >> He started the company... ??????!?!?!
I mean now I understand why Paul Allen was pissed at Bill for siding up with this guy.
Steve Ballmer was the worlds WORST ceo. Laughed at Google, laughed at the Apple IPhone. He was about as forward thinking as a goldfish.
Balmer is throwing alot of shade on Billy G in this interview.
“There was no way the iPhone would have worked. There was no floppy drive an no way to hook it up at your house” - Steve Ballmer
"To Infinity and Beyond!"? lol.... so he watched Toy Story... interesting...
The only successful Bing was Chandler
Yeah even crosby was an asshole.
Was he? I didn’t know. I better ‘Bing’ it
Ballmer, the man who was always wrong.
Not really lol
Ballmer was the wrong CEO for that time period. Microsoft needed someone who could excel on the product side to compete with Apple and Google. They are still paying the price for failing at mobile.
It would have been very difficult though even if they found the ideal CEO. That person wouldn’t have had the freedom to carry out their vision with Bill Gates looking over their shoulder.
Steve is honestly such a legend
I don't understand how anyone could have seen the first iPhone and not immediately understood that the iPhone showed where the industry was headed. It was clearly the best thing that Jobs ever did
It was really expensive and hard to adapt to originally. Typing on glass looked and felt ridiculous and the lack of ports was a big deal.
The iPhone is the worst piece of shit to ever happen. Prior to that, phones were easily repairable with replacement batteries, etc. Now they glue this junk together to manufacture Future e-waste. As a former AppleCare employee, I can tell you we have 7 hail Mary steps to get an iPhone working. If those steps fail, that iPhone goes to the landfill. Absolute junk.
Android's strategy is better. In the long run, Android will defeat iOS because it is willing to sideload APPS. Developers like it when their users are allowed to sideload APPS anywhere.
@@thuydoan7496 It's already been the long run, and Apple hasn't been defeated. In fact, some sixteen years after its introduction, iPhones account for numbers 1-4 on the list of Top Five bestselling phones in the world.
@@thuydoan7496 Android doesn't make money, the hardware does. Android can never win where it doesn''t make money. What are they actually winning?
Well even if balmer is a obnoxious, at least he is comparatively more honest than other execs, but that is also his Achilles heel, his famous iPhone ridiculing is an example
iPhone IS a joke, AND it sucks, just like the rest of Apple's garbage tier products they make you pay $1k for.
Just another person who loves hearing himself talk.
That's not surprising for a scumbag known for forcing developers to do crunch overtime and calling them lazy and unproductive after the fact, dude literally sees human beings as bags of cash in his head.
Some sociopaths are smart though, and he was actually a massive idiot, at least with steve jobs he was a smart piece of shit.
That misdirect at the end.... Classic Steve :-)
It's entertaining running across individuals who clearly just like to hear themselves talk 😳🤣
*The biggest mistake in the history of Microsoft was to make this salesman a CEO. Steve Jobs was the only exception, but a technology comany needs to have a technical person as the CEO. One of the reasons why Nikesh Arora, ex-CBO of Google, left Google because he knew he would never become Google's CEO as he was the business person.*
He’s not a bad guy. Like he’s genuinely a good person in real life. He just didn’t really match that type of environment very well.
@@slob5041 I agree that he is a good guy. He was just not a good CEO.
Sundar pichai was a business person as well. His engineering degree had nothing to do with computer technology. Nadella had a tech degree though.
@@turningmememachine7256 Sundar came from a technical background and did work as an engineer and a product manager before working in various leadership positions. I am ex-Google and had worked with Sundar and his team on numerous occasions.
jobs was a dreamer, not really a salesman
I owned a Windows phone back in the day, and loved it. It was far superior to Android, but unfortunately Microsoft was too little, too late into the market, and there wasn't enough compatability with popular existing apps, The os faded into oblivion.
I loved my window phone so much promise. Don't understand with all that money , how they couldn't just pay developers an incentive to develop app to their platform
yes i liked it. really loved the interface
Live random tiles? The OS was a joke!
This is the guy that destroyed Microsoft. Thanks to Satya Nadella, else Microsoft would have been the next Nokia.
Should have said at 0:35 "I didn't know how to manage." [a company]
That constant WTF glaze / look on the host is golden lol
Now that he's not wrecking Microsoft, he drinks 18 hours a day.
This is the guy who laughed at Steve Jobs iPhone debut saying it’s a ridiculous ideas. Who’s laughing now.
DrWeeWe who’s laughing now? Uh probably Steve Ballmer. Worth $50 bil and not dead, unlike Jobs
" Really like What? " What a bummer of a statement/question
Ballmer looks like what you'd get if Gollum only ate at McDonald's and Burger Kings.
Lol
Saying this now is very unfair. Why didn't he bring this up while he was the CEO.
because he is uselss.. most project that successful was not from his original plan...
This guy isn't loyal at all. He just keeps bashing Bill Gates.
He definitely knows nothing about Loyalty. Look what he did to Blake Griffin.
On his tombstone, “He treated his roommate well; lucky is always better than intelligent.”
Steve Balmer...the one who laughed at the idea of the iPhone when Steve Jobs created the first iPhone. He was not one to create new ideas, he wanted to improve ones that already existed (wanted to keep it safe)
"When I became the CEO we had a very miserable year..." - No man, ever since you became the CEO, every year was a miserable year for investors as well as employees. You ran Microsoft to the ground and were stuck with Internet Explorer success when Steve Jobs was building iPhone. Tell me what was Pocket PC was missing that iPhone had. Yet you could not tackle iPhone even after it came out. It was not that we could not do it, it was a bigger ego of yours that got you and Microsoft.
My Nokia phone with Windows was the best I ever owned. There was just something about having to press the screen 45 times to set an alarm to 6:45 that turned me off about Android.
i worked in Microsoft 15+ years and when Ballmer left there were team parties all over the place. Do not come back.
Listening to Ballmer do an interview after watching a Steve Jobs presentation you can see why Microsoft had no chance against Apple. One was led by a visionary, the other by a businessman.
What an idiot. If you think jobs was more of a scientist than gates or any others for that matter. Go read real history instead of marketing puff pieces.
Amazon is going to be the second biggest company of all time, after the Dutch East India Company.
That "really, like what?" at 1:10 from the host is funny.
Isn't this the same girl who interviewed Jian Yang?
Windows Phone 10 was and still is the best phone OS ever made. It just needs to be supported again and it also needs.... you guessed it!
" DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVOLOPERS! "
Remember that it was Paul Allen who had the idea of selling MS-DOS. It was he who monetised Microsoft.
During Ballmer's time MS pretty much lost its way. Trying to make the one OS work across all platforms was a major mistake and really cost MS mobile. And desktop!
Only Office is keeping them going in the user-facing market. Even then their pricing structure most users would be better off with one of the free packages (which are excellent). Office is mighty powerful, but hobbled by the MS Ribbon.
I love the ribbon and Office is now truely cross platform, and It doesn't crash all the time like open office :)
@@systemsincode7023 Office is a very powerful package and I used it when writing my Ph.D. thesis. In there you had to bring all the chapters together and then form both contents and index. Plus have references at the end of each chapter.
The problem with the Ribbon is that it only shows a small sub-section of what Office can do and there's no menu system to back up the Ribbon. Before with icons there was always the menu where you could find the features for referencing and contents page creation.
Now when you're looking for something you're hitting Google to find out how! Only to discover that you've got to start adding those features to the Ribbon to gain access. And that's poor.
I've also helped configure a lot of older friend's and their parent's computers. For them I've put on the free LibreOffice and it does everything they want. MS Office has got more and more expensive, and for the version I needed, they've unbundled Publisher too. You need Publisher when you're creating a document that you can't have changing format and moving pictures around at will as Word does.
Ultimately, I get the impression that those writing and designing Office have never actually had to use Office for anything themselves! Because if they had they'd know where the flaws in Office and Ribbon are.
I think I may have gotten over the initial learning curve now,.I do now remember having to google quite a bit when it first came out, I guess I'd forgotten the pain. I recall now that the insert for table rows isn't on the insert ribbon its on format, which confused me a lot.:) Ah Libre Office, I I used to flip flop between that an OO as at least one was inoperative at any one time. Although the last time I used it last year I think it was working for several months without issue..
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@@systemsincode7023 A lot of the issues with the Ribbon wouldn't be there if there were a menu backing it up. One where you could scan through, and like the icons before, had more of the functions that Office supports. Seasoned users of Office shouldn't have to search Google for help trying to use a new version! I have a good look before resorting to internet searches.
Which is why I genuinely believe the problem is that those who are in charge of how Office now looks and the user interface haven't ever really had to use Word or any of the other packages to create professional documentations or reports.
The free alternatives I've found to be exceptionally good now. I knew earlier versions weren't so good, and I know that my friends would have bought MS Office if it were a reasonable price, say below £ 100 for the use they need (occasional letter, basic home accounts), they're retired after all. But all MS have done is push the price up whilst dumbing down the product so it leaves many potential customers choosing the free alternatives instead. Which seems rather silly of MS.
She's seeing herself spending his money.
Steve Jobs was talking about how "sales people take over when you have monopolies" in the context of Xerox.