Steve Wozniak Debunks One of Apple's Biggest Myths
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- Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- For its 85th anniversary, Bloomberg Businessweek chronicles the most disruptive ideas of the past 85 years. In 1976, The Apple 1 computer goes on sale for a retail price of $666.66. Steve Wozniak, who co-founded Apple with Steve Jobs and designed that product, remembers the early days. (Video by Brandon Lisy) (Source: Bloomberg)
Wozniak is the person in school who does 80% of the "group" project
Then adds; “Guys I was up all night working on it and haven’t slept.....”, to throw a little unintentional shame in there.
He’s the guy that does 80% of the presentation but can’t speak in front of a crowd without breaking down. Insert Steve Jobs who can’t make the project but could sell sand to a lizard.
The guy who does 80% of the work, then the other two guys take all the credit behind his back.
The "group" would get the highest grade for the "group" project if you let Woz do the whole 100%. He's such a decent bloke he probably wouldn't mind one bit.
and gets hardly any of the credit
HE still sounds like a kid in a candy shop. His passion is what made Apple.
Lee lol
i was about to say it, you're absolutely right
What made Apple, in fact , is looking for big money ! No passion in this but $$$ quest
it's Jobs' passion that made Apple so big. Wozniak was just a tool for success. Cope harder
@@apocalypticbean you got it backwards asshat
I don't even like Apple. But how can you not love this man? And his technical achievements when he started the company are the stuff of legend.
and as if his techincal achievements weren't enough, back in the early 80s he hired and chilled w/ van halen to play a music festival. can not respect this OG bro enough
because this man is much much larger then Apple will ever be. He is a giant.
0:29 "$666.66" ];-D.
"Too bad, I wrote it in my own language."
Legend.
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It’s nice to see Woz can joke about himself
I remember reading in a book that Woz was so unassuming that he went to the bank to deposit 100 grand. He got in line with everyone else and patiently waited. When he handed the check for deposit, the teller thought he was trying to rob them. The manager came out and told Woz that there was no need for him to queue and he could just go to the manager directly if he's going to deposit large sums. And he replied "Why? Everyone else is standing in line". Also his daughter later said that she had no idea they were that rich when she was growing up. She thought they were just upper middle class. They lived in the same old house even when Woz had all those millions.
I think its smart. No need to spend money for a big house just so you stand out as long if its safe. And I also like thats he is a honest and a hard working man!
Steve Jobs was definitely the face of apple. But there wouldn’t have been a Apple without woz
Jobs was the face, Woz was the seed. Jobs saw an opportunity w Woz, and any other savvy entrepreneur could have started the company, but Jobs was the one that pushed for better products and faster. So in the end both were needed for Apple to be where it is.
And there wouldn't have been Apple without Jobs. I owned a computer company in the late 90's at the age of 18. I had built my first computer at age 6. But being in the business I realized that computer "technicians" had no business skills and I spent more time running the business than messing with computers and I never got to do the fun stuff. I never invented anything like Apple and my computer business was sold due to me having a lot of health problems at an early age, I think because I was a lot like Steve Jobs. I still talk to some of my old technicians but they were like Woz. Some of them tried starting businesses and all failed. Woz might've invented the coolest thing but without someone to invent and grow the BUSINESS, Apple never would've became Apple without both of them.
@@tedh1979 They both clearly needed each other. Apple doesn't exist without 2 Steve's. It was a great partnership.
The knife cut both ways buddy. Both steves needed each other. They are both part of the equation.
Woz was the heart definitely
Ultimately, I’ll wager Woz is a happier man than Jobs was.
Oh definitely, it shows too!
It looks more as a shy nerd that when you get to know him are more charismatic that you expected.
I know I’d rather work with Woz than Jobs
You can tell!
Jobs was a psychopath.
And more alive.
He is the real genius behind Apple's beginning. Admirable and humble guy.
@Ben Alvis I know. I was referring to the technical genius he was. Jobs was of course the innate sales person.
The two Steve’s is the geniuses behind Apple
I met and worked with Steve Wozniak in 2009 for the first time. And what struck me about Steve was how quick and succinctly he spoke. I think someone must have slowed him down a little here to produce this video because he usually talks a lot faster than that. He's one of the nicest man you'll ever meet and one of the most caring people on the planet. I think this video really reflects the inner person that Steve Wozniak is and how he really really wanted to bring technology into the home.
the mark of a TRUE genius.
+Shinigami Lee So why did you meet him?
***** So how good are you at programming?
Emir Tulumcu
Why do you ask?
***** I'm curious. I like programming.
Mad respect for this guy.
no comment
@Origami Mambo Project congratulation, you just made me mad.
@Origami Mambo Project yeah, sadly i sinked down below the sea. Im wrecked by the fucking useless u-boats.
A thousand times more respect for Wasniak than for Jobs.
Rob Fowler hear hear 👍
Wozniak was the CPU and Jobs was the Computer Case.
Jobs was the OS.
@@MakeULaf5illy - Interesting but Wozniak would have programmed the OS as well. :)
Computer case is too much credit.
More like, Woz was the power supply, Jobs was the CPU.
Steve Jobs was also the screen and the mouse and the keyboard and the box and the marketing and the success of Apple.
I once met Steve in Vegas at Caesar's Palace and told him about how we used his computers to create software to help special needs children communicate to the world. I shook his hand and gave him a thank you from thousands of children who would if they could. Woz was kind and very moved by what I had to say...
Steve Jobs probably would've replied with something arrogant or belittling.
@@acoustic61 I have a letter written to me by Jobs which many would consider as harsh. The man was all business...
@@brianjay9811 If a world scientific government was composed by people like wozniak, we would have peace and prosperity for all mankind everywhere, we could aim for great progresses like the end of famine, of desertification, of pollution, and conquer the solar system, use a.i., automation, dna engineering, fusion energy etc to terminate the money system, market, competition, wage work, capitalism and imperialism; if the world was run by people like jobs, we would instantly have a world war
@@brianjay9811 could you share any excerpts?
@@opts9 Sure. The set up is that in 1983, I was a poor artist living in Alaska. Due to my desire for an Apple II and noticing a photo of Steven sitting in a living room with no artwork on his walls, I decided to ship him a very large painting, titled "Gramps", of an old man sitting on a tomato truck, in exchange for an Apple IIe. I also included a program I had written on a borrowed Apple, which I hoped, with Jobs help, would make me millions. I dug deep into my finances to have the painting crated and shipped to California. A month later, I received this letter:
"I'd like to thank you for sending "Gramps" and your 10,000 Faces program; I *do* like Gramps, and hope your programming work brings you great success.
I regret that we won't be able to send the Apple IIe that you requested; you're right, I would like to help if I could, but we have a very strict policy that all distribution of our products must be handled directly by an Apple dealer, as this is the only way you can be assured of prompt and courteous service and support for your computer.
You mentioned in your letter that "Gramps" is one of your favorite works and worth approximately $1000; I'd feel very bad about keeping your work and not offering the compensation you asked for, so I thought it best to return it to you, and let you have the chance to perhaps sell it and be fairly paid for your efforts. It is being shipped separately.
Your interest in our products is very much appreciated; again, I wish you the very best.
Sincerely,
Steve (signed in felt pen)
Steven P. Jobs
Chairman
Board of Directors
Well I guess this was not as hard-nosed as I remembered. Now forty years later, I still have the painting and sell prints of it on my FineArtAmerica page. My plan is to put this letter up on eBay, now that I'm back in Alaska and looking to finance yet another great Apple computer...
Lead solder in the mouth, no fume extractor whatsoever, no esd precautions. Old school engineering.
I saw that and remembered that, I have recently started worrying about how back in the days, I used to put Pb in my mouth like him. I'll probably have some mental illness when I get older (lead does a number on the neuron connections), geee I hope not.
I saw that and thought "dam if he's did it every day for years, I think I should start doing it for my Sunday projects".
+Awesomeman1987 I mean the solder in my mouth
Electrostatic discharges was not much of an issue with (mainly) TTL and NMOS ICs though.
LOL. I was thinking the exact same thing :)
If anybody could have figured out how to squeeze a headphone jack onto the iPhone 7 it would've been him.
This comment is so underrated!
Yeah, they approached him asking for help with that. Problem is, they offered him fame and fortune in return. So he refused
they probably just deliberately omitted it to sell more of their wireless headphones tbh
@@TwenOalley You'd be right, and therein lies the fundamental difference between the two Steves. Woz would put the standard jack in because it benefited everyone and made logical sense. Jobs changes it to a proprietary connection, charges extra for the headphones to connect to it, charges 3rd party manufacturer's up the wazoo for rights to make devices to connect to it, and sues the fuck out of anyone who dared to open the device & reverse engineer the connector to get it back the way it should have been.
I'm glad Jobs decided to treat his cancer "holistically" like a dumb ass so by the time he realized he was an idiot it was too late. Now he eats dirt for eternity. Fuck you Jobs!
One less hole to drill
Steve Wozniak, such a great guy 😃👍
Fun Fact : when he was in primary school he took an IQ test and his score was 200+ at such a young age .
As a Software Engineer, woz is one of those whom I take as a role model. This guys is a legend!
What about ISIS? Isn't that all yours role model 😂
A nod to Margaret Hamilton, Software Engineer!
America loves ambition. America loves money. America loves Steve Jobs.
I'll take Woz any day... I love the Woz..
+Larkinchance Agree :D
me too
+Larkinchance Jobs is one of of the most overrated persons ever involved in technology.
+Larkinchance While having ambition is hardly a bad thing (as well as just wanting to make money to have a better life with in reason) I do agree that many Americans have their priorities messed up and the fact that Steve is along a house hold name and most people will draw a blank stare at the mention of Wozniak is a testament to that fact (that's not to say I don't think Steve deserves to praised since he still did a lot to get Apple off the ground but in a perfect world they would of both have had top billing).
All in perfect world it should be: American's love ambition. American's love innovation, building up industry and making a better lives for themselves. Americans love Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak.
+S. D. Gentry In terms of engineering, but most people respect him for Pixar and taking Apple from a company with a market cap of $2.3 Billion - $314 Billion. Steve Wozniak was a brilliant engineer and the 17 year life span of the Apple II shows that, but he couldn't have saved Apple in 1997.
I don't think Jobs is undeserving, but THIS guy deserves books, movies, and a lot more credit than he is given now, but do you know why he does not get it? ---> 4:43
+Ulises Calvo Because he's not a salesman or businessman. He also not a psychotic, overambitious mega-ego with adoption issues and a love for adulation. Both men made tech history, only one is an interesting story. Xerox PARC was crammed full of geniuses like Wozniak. Ever heard of any of them? The world knows Woz becasue of Jobs.
+Ulises Calvo This guy makes himself more than he is. He is not Dennis Ritchie, Henry Edward Roberts (inventor of Personal Computer... way before Wozniak), Howard Aiken and Grace Hopper. Both Steves had a tremendous impact on Wall Street, but not computing.
+cabrioleur
The Woz floppy controller is considered by a lot of hardware engineers to be one of the best pieces of engineering of all time. The whole thing was pretty great, actually.
Joseph Shaul I believe that you mean Alan Shugart's floppy. Woz's modification was just that, a simple modification of the Shugart's floppy.
+NuggetOfBlueGold Isn't Woz teaching computer science at University?
Seriously, Jobs just found a treasure waiting to be uncovered when he used Wozniaks passion and goodwill.
I've never liked Apple but I love Woz. He's SO utterly passionate about what he does, beaming with pride and happiness, very grounded and in tune with his beliefs. A very rich man indeed.
This is awesome. Love the last words "I'll stay at the bottom of the org chart being an engineer because that's where I want to be. " In a society that praises the front man, It's comforting to know that not all of the greats desired fame and fortune, some were driven by passion. Kinda gives me hope.
Steve Job was passionate for technology not just because it provide fame for him but also to fulfill a dream of what computer he wanted.
@@blugaledoh2669 who said anything about steve jobs.
@@xdonvito When you said the front man, I thought you meant Jobs.
I supposed I extrapolate too much.
There's no hope
I don't know any greats that desire fame or fortune. Those who do are not great they just look for some one who is and ride them to the top.
This Steve is way cooler than the other
He is nothing.
@@crisgriffin3042 this steve is a maker the other was a taker.
And alive
I think the same
i think this steve is cooler than minecraft steve
it seems like this guy is the one who's passion created apple
If jobs hadn't made it a business it probably would have remained a pet project.
History is written by the victors, in blood...
@@lusarshameli7057 Apple needed a someone like Jobs, but a person that sells someone else's ideas are a dime a dozen, the ones that create are rare.
@@Seven_Leaf Steve Job's business skills are the number one in the world, top notch, he is the #1 business person of all time. He turned a failing company (Apple in the 1990s) into the most successful company in the world and introduced technology that changed the world completely. He also founded NeXT Computer and Pixar, both of which were successful companies in their own right, and Pixar created Toy Story, Monsters Inc, The Incredibles, Finding Nemo, etc, and sold to Disney for billions. If you read the founding Pixar book, Steve Jobs was on top of that company the whole time too, it is so incredible the work he did.
Do you ever get tired of telling the story? NEVER.
Gotta appreciate that level of sincerity and absolute devotion.
*Steve Wozniak was always humble and soft spoken, he was overshadowed by smart talker Steve Jobs however tech people know that Wozniak gave birth to apple, he was the brain behind everything.*
In a lot of ways you really need both types to take off like Apple did. The really technically-inclined people often aren't the best at marketing. Woz needed that somewhat psychopathic personality in Jobs to really slam it home.
If you read his autobiography, which I recommend, he's not exactly someone I'd call humble (big fan of him though).
LOTS of great ideas fizzle out before they become mainstream. A great idea in this age requires resources, connections, money, and yes even luck and timing. Both Steves were required to bring all the ingredients together for this 'Apple Pie'.
As a computer programmer, I don't want fame. I would be happy to have a talking head take the fame for my work, as long as I can keep the credit.
@@quailman he doesn't look humble even in this video. Not that it's a weakness
Wow.. Wozniak genuinely appreciates and loves engineering. no fame, no glory, no wealth. Jobs got lucky as hell finding this man who wanted nothing more than to do what he loved and took advantage of that soft spot.
actually his partner also fucked him over many occasions. read up on more financial dealings.
Jobs was a car salesman.
Woz is famous and wealthy.
Liam H Rogen did nice potray Wozinak in that movie.
Woz has 9 billion in networth m8,research before type...
This guy is a living legend! I have the utmost respect for him.
As a Commodore fanboy teen in the 80's, I *still* never had anything except respect for Woz. The man is a geek's geek, with a genius and passion that endears him to every person who loves computers. Now that I'm older, I absolutely love looking at his designs and how they work. I don't blame him at all for wanting to stay on the technical side of the house; work is just better when it's something you love doing. Long Live Woz.
"I want to be at the bottom of the org chart, being an engineer" What a sincere and happy man Steve is. I hope to have just half the contentment in my life that he has.
Thanks! I heard "orchard", and couldn't make sense of it
@@DavidG2P the Apple orchard?
"...be at the bottom of the org chart, being an engineer." but have the Apple stock. Priceless! (actually, mostly priced.)
I'm doing a PhD right now I'm computer science, and I can't stress enough how much I agree with this.
Well, he's wealthy af, so why not. He owns Apple shares and is on their payroll still.
The funny thing is that Steve Wozniak liked upgradability so he made his machines very modular, something Steve Jobs did not like.
for money and aftersales reasons
@@gabyu I've seen in other videos that he did that because he knew their customers wanted that, including himself. You can make money with modularity or with how Apple does it nowadays.
@MR TRUTH Yourself is a satanist
Want to buy a dongle for your dongle, to go with your dongle. Its all extra though.
Geek vs psychopath.
I don't have words to describe this man, there 1 in millions like him who are just driven by passion without any kind of greed, a pure genius and not being an asshole about it.
I have always admired Woz aproach to life. He's really a sophisticated man with humble and funnie attitude.
“Someday I’m going to own a big computer”
Starts Trillion dollar tech company
A trillion-dollar tech company that focuses on thin laptops
@@willjones3478 and sells all our data and privacy
@Light Myst was. Now its all about money . Not quality
@Light Myst sounds about right
...and buys a BIG wristwatch instead
It's a shame what the company's turned into recently...and it's also a shame that this guy didn't get the credit he deserved.
They will feign admiration while completely ignoring everything he stood for. Happens in most big companies after some time.
RetrOhm Steve Wozniak built this great computer with weeks and weeks of design. now we have no headphone jacks
Yes, all the 'when jobs was here'
Josh Mar well you have to admit, they have massively stagnated since Jobs died.
+Josh Mar Jobs was a great leader, advertiser and generally a good bussinesman, meanwhile Wozniak was an engineer and programmer
Steve Wozniak absolutely does not get enough credit on this Earth for simply being the genius he is. Never change Woz.
Steve Woz was a hell of an engineer, and we don’t hear enough about what he did compared to Jobs.
You will after his passing. It's always like that with artists.
The true genius behind Apple
+Paul Potter Woz is genius...Jobs is a Pardigm Shifter. Ensemble those two elements together and you get a winner algorithm
YSoSrs? Nop...revolution happen when technology become accessible to the consumer. The invention is the starting point, but making it mainstream will ask you more than the marketing guy. You need a paradigm shifter...you need a Steve Jobs. Unfortunately, most people are novice in industrial organization and will claim that Jobs is just the marketing guy. Right now there is thousand of great inventions ready to change the every day life...most of them will fail.
+YSoSrs? If you were alive back then, you would of seen the reverse was true. The color IIgs with its superior hardware was a piece of crap next to the little closed Macintosh with its monochrome screen. It sounds counter intuitive, but it was true, because it was a paradigm shift. Mac OS was miles ahead of Apple ][ dos. The Apple ][ was stuck in the past while the Mac was a leap into the future. And its little mono screen was superior to the big fuzzy color tv screen, because its pixels were perfectly square, sharp, crisp and clean, compared to the tri-rectangular fuzzy pixel of a ][gs monitor. Back then I worked in a Software store and pirated the whole store... and had a Mac back at home. The only thing we did on the store ][gs was play Tetris and Hellcats over the Pacific. On the Mac you could do lasar desk top publishing... on the ][gs maybe a housewife could print out a shitty certificate in Certificate Maker.
Everyone is praising Steve Jobs yet he was more of the salesman. I've always thought most of the admiration should go to him.
funny that you failed to address anything he said.
"It represents yourself when you do a great design."
This guy is so legendary and inspiring
Or is he just that serious and nerdy engineer type, but with more luck than most people?
(I like him though, so don't get me wrong.)
@@herrfriberger5 Why can't be be both?
@@GamingBlake2002 Sure!
It's really sad that that is not everyone's mantra on this planet. Can you imagine what it would be like if everyone took pride in their work?
@@TheWitchOvAgnesi It would be like before the industrial revolution, i.e. like the 1700s. I'm not saying that's entirely a bad thing, but that is what it would be like.
This is what a person with true passion looks like
The single most underrated individual of all times.
I wouldn't be typing this and you wouldn't be reading it if it weren't for the Woz.
Never actually listened to Woz speak before, but I'm glad to see that even after all these years, he still seems passionate about computing.
You should hear him talk about pranking people!
So this is the kind of person you need to be to make history. A person obsessed with your work. The kind of person who doesn't say "Well... I could probably make this a little bit more efficient, but i'll save it for the next evolution". A person who says "Screw all this hard work, it's not the best i can do!".
+Cristi Neagu "The kind of person who doesn't say "Well... I could probably make this a little bit more efficient, but i'll save it for the next evolution"
That's exactly what Steve Jobs would have said, and what Apple is like now.
Why does this guy inspire me so much more than Steve Jobs?
Because he is the real deal. He did it because he loved it. The man never worked a day in his life.
Wozniak is an example of what a passion and love for something can get you. Jobs is an example of what greed can get you.
Jobs was ultimately unnecessary because most of what he did was reiterate what people wanted.
@@kirbstomp8041 Jobs make stuff better
@@jgaint7912 I equally respect Steve Jobs
you can hear the passion in his voice, thats worth more than an empire
You can see it too, he's not just putting the boards back in the case and typing out some code he memorised before the video to create some B-roll for the cameras. He's actually having fun, lost in the moment :)
His children might die hungry, so the grass is always greener, kid.
Somehow, the Woz staying up until 4am makes me feel a little better about watching TH-cam until 3am
😂😂🙏
except he was most likely doing something productive...
@@natenorrish The horrible thing about the internet is it allows you to trick yourself into thinking its productive watching these kinds of videos when its not :(
How? He actually does something productive an meaningful
Don't feel bad I do the same thing. TH-cam is addicting
Woz talks about his creations like a little kid at show and tell. He’s just happy to talk with you about something he enjoys. Woz is a genuinely great man.
Love the "bottom of the org chart" comment. I never put it that way before, but I feel exactly the same way. It's nice to be needed but not to be responsible for people.
I agree. It’s fun to be building stuff, and not be stuck managing teams or other business matters.
For sure. The only person I want to be in charge of is me. I've turned down a "promotion" many times as I did not wish to engage in adult day care.
Agreed, that stood out to me too. I didn't become an engineer so I could be a manager. I became an engineer...to engineer. To some people that's an odd concept.
Do you realize this is the guy who put on the US Festival. Twice.
i love how excited he is when he tells his stories
Childlike excitement can move mountains.
True passion I reckon.
Got some tears into my eyes. That passion, those beginnings.. love this man.
Yet another perfect example of how hard it is for specialist to become a businessman. It's all in the mindset.
Mad respect for his achievement.
Steve job is literally that one extrovert guy in every group project who does present but wozniak is the introvert who does all the work 😂😂
"It had to be that artistically perfect to me because it represents yourself when you do a great design."
-Steve Wozniak
Apple Inc. co-founder
There will come a time (is almost here now) when the late 70s, early 80s will become a mythological time per the early microcomputer revolution. Woz will always have his legendary edifice in that mythos
Gerald Ballesteros ❤️
That is when I had to google for any discussion on Woz having a hint on Asberger :)
That’s funny🤓I was involved in electronics, product and board design many years ago (early 90’s) and when I would layout the board or even first draw the schematics I always thought of it as a functional piece of art too. Maximizing the function AND the aesthetics. I would easily work 40-50 hours in 3 days on a design because I was enjoying it so much I would lose track of the time. I just figured I was weird. Maybe I am lol
When I write a program try to follow the Woz's principles because it helps for example, I can feel the program is doing and running into a wall.. Thank you Steve.
Jobs was the face of Apple but Wozniak was truly the heart.
Jobs was the Dick of Apple but Wozniak was the balls
@@blackpanter2092 Jobs was the eggs but Woz was the sperm.
Woz's name survived in the floppy disk controllers for the Apple II: WOZ machine and IWM for Integrated Woz machine.
Black Panter wtf lol
The brain and heart I'd say
Its great to see someone so passionate and enthusiastic about his work, and despite having years in the trade and making it to the top hes not really lost that passion
whenever I think of someone who absolutely LOVES their craft, steve wozniak always comes up
Wozniak is to Jobs as Tesla is to Edison
Hrothgar Totally right!!!
That's the best way I've ever heard it put.
Hrothgar Well said !.. I like it.
+Hrothgar Steve never back-stabbed Woz and left him to die alone and broke like Edison did to Tesla.
+sexyloser Well no, he died first, of course. But, he did take the credit, and most of the money, for work that was the creative impetus of others. He was a businessman, who's skill was at effectively marketing and selling technology that he did not create. Jobs was a salesman, while Wozniak was a creator.
The Woz doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves. It is always about Steve Jobs :(
It is because of a management culture where the top manager pretend that he is doing all important inventions and decisions. And sadly journalists eat that BS.
This is actually the opposite. Everyone understand why WOZ is good, because programming is complex right...but no one really get it why Jobs is so important. They will say, Woz is the genius, Jobs is just the salesman, but the point is, you need to be a genius to sell a genius product...
A genius product need a genius marketer. If not, it will simply be another great idea that didn't work.
People don't always recognize genius, and sometimes they recognize it, but aren't willing to take a chance on funding it. It takes a certain type of person to push new ideas, and that's what Jobs did.
I'm not saying he was a good person, or that he could have done it alone, but he's had a HUGE impact on the world we live in, even without engineering chops.
I've always been a huge fan of Woz (I grew up in the Bay Area where they were basically heroes), but Jobs was important too, even if he was a dick.
@@michaelpatnaude Not exactly
Steve and Steve really where two geniuses in each their respect. One happened to be very charismatic, a bit psyco and an excellent salesman as well, the other is just a likeable guy who doesn't care much for money or fame.
He is the real hero! The one in the shadow with big heart and passion, humble.
where would steve be without woz?
+Scott Johnson Where would Woz be without Steve?
No telling. Woz is lucky Steve didn't steal the whole enchilada from him, like Mark Cuban did the technology for Broadcast.com. One things for sure : there's be no Apple computer without Woz. Period. Steve couldn't make a computer. Other people made the Mac, with Apple II revenue supporting the losing Mac division. Hey, I have three Macs, so I'm not an apple hater, but please.... Jobs was a marketer, and clever re-inventor. I mean cell phones and mp3's were around for 10 years, but he had the vision to put them together. but he's not Leonardo Davinchi. He's Mark Cubanish. He did'n't really succeed until Pixar, when he became a better manager according to insiders. Mac was a failure, Next was a failure.
I believe they're both equally as important to the company. There would be no Apple without Steve Jobs and there would be no Apple without Wozniak. Wozniak made the computer but without Jobs, Woz wouldn't know how to make it user friendly. Just like how you said Jobs didn't really succeed until Pixar (which I don't really agree with because making a billion-dollar company at the age of 30 is a success in my book; nonetheless I see your point), Woz left Apple in 1985 and then in the 2000s tried to start various other companies which failed. To summarise, both have pros and cons, and I think both played a very important role in Apple. In the end, in my opinion, they're both wouldn't be where they are now without the other.
Let me clarify that. Steve's falures began with Lisa, then Macintosh, then Next. He finally succeeded with Pixar. The First Apple II was not user friendly in today's sense of the word. The Macintosh was, but it was a failure financially. The apple II revenue supported development of the Mac, and Steve's idea was to kill the Apple II and focus the entire company on Macintosh. In that sense, it was a failure. And that's what forced him out.
+Scott Johnson He'd probably be a successful used car salesman.
Steve Wozniak is the true creator of Apple and i have the utmost respect for him, Steve Jobs was nothing but a salesman and a greedy selfish one at that!
Steve Jobs was a genius salesman. Steve Wozniak, on the other hand, is a wizard.
It seems so simple now: attach a typewriter keyboard to a box and let people use it. Woz was a brilliant SOB, that's for sure.
It’s why he’s called The Wizard of Woz.
One of my favorite memes is the one of the Woz that says, "With out this Steve, you would have never heard of the other Steve."
He will never see this but thank you for all your efforts and presentations. You represent America really,really well!
Now let's hear about current sitiuation with Apple from our special guest: *LOUIS ROSSMANN*
Louis Rossmann has actually praised Apple in the past. Louis isn't just an Apple brand hater. He gives credit when credit is due, and criticism when it's needed.
@@Johnnyboycurtis Yes, but it's mostly criticism....because their products are garbage, and their business practices are atrocious.
numberyellow Apple is doing better than before. You guys focus on specs and hate, while Apple is swimming in their millions. No tech company is even close
@@chydi10 apple is doing better than before according to you, because of imbeciles who don't realize how inferior apple is!
And that 1000dollar monitor stand.
The happiest people in life are ones who keep life simple & humble 😁
The nice thing about wealth, having the time to do what you really want.
Steve Jobs character was best demonstrated how he treated Steve Wozniak when they worked at Atari.
Woz was my hero from the day I bought my first Apple II+. I designed music cards for it and went on to get a BSEE degree. I loved that the circuit schematics and source code to the BIOS were included in the back of the manual. A far cry from the Apple of today. Thank you Woz!
WOZ is the true heart of Apple..Shame it has turned Rotten over time.
He does what he does 'cause he loves it. That's why he should be remembered more than Jobs.
no, jobs was. just like how gates brought the windows OS from a random programmer for 50k (which he sold for millions), without a leader woz would have been the same.
SAW9 how has I?
Woz in all his glory was simply a violinist in the symphony Steve led. Of course he played a huge role but it can not be understated Steve's influence in being able to push his engineers and influence people around him.
Wozniak and Jobs/ Tesla and Edison
Imagine if he was head of design over at Apple now ...
He even says himself that he isn't a good leader and he doesn't want to be one either so it wouldn't be too good. He could work as a programmer or maybe CEO though.
+Jonathan Saunders Wozniak's true talent was that he was obsessive and the effort that he put in showed in his technical designs but that's not what drives Apple today. It's about style and branding now and Wozniak just wouldn't be right for that. Yes, Apple products might be more bug free if they were as technically obsessive as Wozniak was but that would only mean the new products wouldn't get to market in a timely fashion. Remember that his last project at Apple was a Universal TV remote control years before people even knew what a Universal remote was, problem is that what he came up with was so technically difficult to program that it was essentially unusable, of course he also never finished the design to his satisfaction because he realized that he didn't need to be so obsessive over his work anymore, that he could just enjoy the millions that he had instead, so he just dropped it all.
+John Wang I'm sure Wozniak would've been an android guy
John Wang is this information accurate???
@@johnwang9914 apple does need to put their products up in a timely fashion no ones buying their products its getting to expensive and all for the wrong reasons
Someone that was able to live his passion. Its nice to see someone being able to achieve his purpose
Truly one of the Wright Bros. of the industry. Unassuming, still with a child-like fascination of how these things work. I hope someone names a school after him one day.
I met Steve Wozniak at the San Francisco airport. I went up to him and said “Sir, I would be remiss if I didn’t say, ‘Thank you for your service.”
What did he say?
@@browsertab I'm betting it was something like "thanks"
@@jasnterry1313 Would have been cool if he said "Security! A commoner is attempting to communicate with me. Have him strung up and quartered at once."
@@browsertab yes, but a simple "go away peasant" would suffice
I met him briefly the first time I went to Comdex back in '82. Seemed like a very humble down-to-earth guy, especially in contrast to all the uptight grey suits running around the convention floor at the time.
I have a *huge* respect for Wozniak, for staying true to his core self, for wanting to stay an engineer and not get carried away with any money hurricane. Hats off, sir.
Steve W. proves that age is a function of the mind. He speaks with the passion and enthusiasm of a 25 year old. His excitement is very inspiring and contageous. Every young child should study his story proving that anything is possible and the best is yet to come if one only goes after what they like doing. Thank you Woz for being you!
Got my Apple 2e back in the early 80's. It changed my life and made my graphics business take off.
Thanks, Steve! I still have the computer.
It seems both Apple Steves complemented each other really well. Woz appears to be a very nice, sincere and genuine person.
And the complement of 'nice, sincere and genuine' is 'nasty, insincere and fake'. Wozniak was, and is, by far the better of the two, but unfortunately you need people like Jobs as well. I am sure that Wozniak would never have wanted to produce such a money-making greedy company that Apple has become.
I'm no Apple fanboy but Woz is so likeable. Mass respect for the guy.
Woz is so much underrated. The guys is a genius.
It's amazing how different Jobs and Woz really were, and it's even more incredible how they could even work together being so polar opposite. Woz seems like the most kind and giving person, while Jobs was almost like a dictator, it was his way or no way.
The real genius behind apple
Steve Jobs was a genius too, and he proved he could achieve a lot even without Wozniak. Jobs was a huge asshole, though, no arguing that...
Michael Steffensen woz is a dick. look up what he said about apples co founder wayne.
Last time I checked, Woz is not around anymore when Apple had all these i-Pod, i-Phone, and all the i-stuffs that was introduced to the market when Steve Jobs re-established himself as the head of Apple
@@MozTheBoz True but Woz's genius gave Steve the start he needed. Without that start, it's hard to get anywhere.
@@MozTheBoz Steve Jobs was involved in exactly 0% of the real design work of any of those products. Jobs was a salesman, that's it. His status as a "Tech Visionary" was a finely crafted PR campaign.
I read Woz's book, "I Woz" several years ago. My impression of Woz was that he was happy at the fundamental level. Remote control genius to say the least. He's always going to be a man I respect greatly. Thanks for the video.
What a brilliant man. Thank you Woz.
The passion. The positivity. The creativity. The engineering. The commitment. Woz' contribution to human development into the digital age is difficult to overstate.
It's ironic that due to his own actions he never got that big computer, only little ones.
I remember that computer geek on "The Simpsons" proudly proclaiming that 50 years from now computers will twice as fast and four times bigger.
In informatics, big is little.
The Apple ][ was about as big as it gets. It was one of the main reasons that IBM got into the personal computer market (another long story). It was also the computer of choice for many schools, introducing a generation to computers. So it may have been small, but it had a big impact.
@@bobblum5973 The first computer I ever used was an Apple IIe. Learned how to program in command line BASIC on it. Great high school days.
@@stephenwright8824 I still have my Apple ][+, 48K RAM, still only 40 column uppercase only! Never got the language card for 64k or more, or an 80-column card, but I still programmed the heck out of it. Learned a lot about computers and hardware that carried me on to this day.
I hate Apple but I love Wozniak. Amazing man.
No one cares.
Accept you, apparently. Thanks for taking your time to tell me how do you dont care enough to take your time. Let me guess Apple fan boy?
TheDestruct0r Except
Dude Dudeler i love a human named no one, he cares very much
Legend, arguably the father of the home computer.
Not at all.
The Great Steve shows that passion and honesty pay big in life. No money in the world can buy that
I love Steve Wozniak. He lives this stuff. You can tell it's not fake and he's not a fake person. That makes him a very decent person to me.
Incredible...this guys reward was not the money, but to just have a computer. He loved what he was doing more than the billions he would earn. Amazing.
This is what we all love about the humble roots of technology. It's a supremely fantastic way to celebrate creative expression and share the great ideas that result.
The amazing the astonishing the humble professor Mr. Stephen Wozniak.. what a great man he is Steve Wozniak
Wozniak was the real technical genius behind Apple, one of the people who actually designed the computers. Jobs was a salesman genius, but he understood nothing on how technology worked; however he understood what consumers wanted, which is equally important.
thats not true...i agree that Wozniak IS genius and due to his contribution apple is at high place.. but Jobs was a smart peron too.. his skills were extraordinary..and he knows technology very well infact he knows everything about his products...if u don't believe try searching "what is it like to work with Steve jobs" in quora...you will find your answer
No equally important. More in demand but NIT equally important.
@@henrydunlap913 Ok, I'll try again. NOT. There, how was that? LOL
@@Atul_Thakur97 Jobs was just a smart and hardworking businessman. A smart businessman tries as much as possible to know everything about his products and put pressure to get better quality. He wanted the best. But he was NOT CLOSE to being a genius
Atul Thakur disagree, Jobs just was a silver tongued salesman that could sale anything. if you read any books on jobs, you will see he made a lot of stupid decisions and was basically a spoiled brat.
look what he did to his first daughter, completely disowned her for most of her childhood.
He perhaps didn't need that kind of wealth but he sure as hell deserved it.
Very true. Atleast a billion for starting a tech revolution.
@@viveksharma9564 *trillion
True king 🙌🏻 a man with true passion
In the history of humanity, nobody has parlayed a single achievement (along with the riding of someone else's coattails) into a lifelong dividend of admiration as HUGE as Woz.
Woz was an absolute genius at PCB layout and TTL logic. Steve Jobs had once worked at Atari. Nolan Bushnell was complaining about the production costs of their coin-op games. This was pre-microprocessor when everything was made with discrete logic. Each game used 100-150 TTL chips and he wanted to cut the cost on the game Breakout. Jobs enlisted Woz and Woz came up with a design that used only 47 or 48 chips! The only problem was that Atari couldn't use it. His design was so clever and used so many subtle layout tricks that the Atari engineers couldn't replicate it for mass production! They had to redesign it, and it ended up using 100+ chips. On a sad side-note, Bushnell offered $700 for the design and a $5,000 bonus for using less than 50 chips. Jobs gave Wos the $350 50/50 split of the $700, but kept the 5 grand for himself and never told Woz.
yep that is jobs...
Jack kirby / bill finger story
without Wozniak, there wouldn't be Apple
Michael McNamara Without Steve there would also not be Apple. It goes hand in hand: great product design and someone who can sell it.
@@chnolte False. There is 100% no chance of apple without Woz, he is the sole maker of the first couple of apple machines, jobs had nothing to do with making them. Without jobs Woz might have taken LONGER to get his machines made public, but there is nothing to have stopped him from doing so, but without Woz jobs would have a whole buncha charisma and no machines to sell because he had NO CLUE how to make a computer.
I dear to say that Microsoft would be the same if not for Wozniak
Not bad for two guys who once worked for HP.
@@shawnpitman876 You need to learn more about what actually happened.
Wozniak and Tesla are two geniuses that didn't receive the acknowledgment that they deserved.
I'm so glad Woz is still around. I wish I could meet him and give him a hug.
I love him, he sees like a smart, genuine, dorky, lovable guy.
Someone that is definitely a role model and hero for me because making computers was like the ultimate smartness since my dad and grandmother did it while I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s.
SEEMS like a smart...? no he IS smart................ clearly.