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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2023
- He was deleting GPS locations in his phone - pretty pointless IMO. This was before the mobile phone laws so there was no chance of him being prosecuted for a mobile phone offence - there was no interactive communication. Holding the phone and swerving in the lane, though, that's a due care and attention offence, and I suspect that is what he was prosecuted for.
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As a passenger I've asked taxi drivers to stop touching their phones whilst driving. Usually I get a grumbled apology but sometimes I get a mouthful of abuse so I report them to my local council. Nice one Mikey. Keep up the good work.
Where I live, the taxi phones are completely hands free, replies appear to be voice activated.
@@MonkeySprayBanana ⬆️ Found the idiots who use their phone whilst driving.
@@MonkeySprayBanana you pathetic little boy.
How sad of you 😂
Karen
She knew. Soon put her seat belt on when she saw Mikey.
The "professional" driver probably hasn't even passed his test in the UK
@@laceandwhisky yes they are, unless given an explicit medical exemption certificate which isn't routinely given.
From the gov website: You must wear a seat belt if you’re pregnant, unless your doctor says you don’t have to for medical reasons.
That guy who dropped the 'Cycle lane over there mate' has one hell of a story to tell his mates later
So engrossed he didn't notice Cycling Mikey in a bright red shirt behind and alongside.
Absolutely beggars belief.
Keep up the good work Mikey! 👍
It does indeed. I've been stood next to the driver side window of phone using drivers for prolonged periods of time. Hi viz jacket, dayglo orange gloves, gopro stuck to my helmet like I'm some kind of flipping 6ft4 tellytubby and they still don't notice. But then quite commonly they don't notice when the car directly in front of them moves on so what hope the person standing next to them......
Just last night the Uber I was in was involved in a crash. A moped had stopped at a zebra crossing to let someone across and a car plowed into the back of him with such force that the moped was airborne for over 15 metres before slamming into the side of the Uber I was sitting in!
It’s my firm belief (without proof though) that the car driver at fault was probably distracted by something like a phone.
The moped rider was lying in the road for over 40 minutes while paramedics treated him and the road closed for over an hour, luckily the police said his injuries were not life threatening but will surely mean recovery time and no income for him!
So keep up the good work Mikey, never let anyone say you are not doing good and performing a public service. Take care and stay safe…..
For such a serious accident the police will check the car driver's phone records to see if it was in use.
I was out to day and saw many with their phone on their lap trying to hide the phone and looking up then down while waiting at the traffic lights.
It has become the norm.
If the Uber driver was using his phone for anything other than reading something already on the phone, I am fairly sure the data transfer would be logged by the phone system just like a phone call, text-message, whats-app or anything else which uses the data network. There will be a record of the data, time, rough location etc.
Maybe the police should do their job properly and investigate what appears to be a case of careless driving?
@@125brat That's not careless driving, it should be dangerous driving and loss of licence and jail time
@@itsonlyme9938 Ditto. Counted three in a row at one point. Beeped another later on. And tonight, multiple drivers with only one headlight working, including 4 cars in a row.
it’s shocking how some drivers can be so oblivious, especially whilst behind the wheel of a heavy moving object
Thank you for your efforts, Mikey. Good going.
The old rule of “no interactive communication” makes no sense. I’m glad it’s changed. Under that rule it sounds like you could play a game or watch a film, ridiculous.
The daft thing was it was really a failing of case law rather than the initial law. It seems the problem was a law written in a manner where the judges didn't understand the terminology, and lawyers able to argue it meant a specific thing that really was the least likely interpretation.
Data sent to the device following a request for data is "Interactive communication". So you use your device to request a website, play a game that runs adverts or communicates with an online server, play your Spotify playlist etc. Any time you initiate a data request on the device, that is interactive communication. But the technology jargon was perhaps not clearly relayed to the judges, and so we seemingly ended up with case law that represented communication to mean from person to person. Thus, sending text messages and participating in phone calls.
Fortunately the new law is much plainer, but has created a new problem all of its own. You can use your device if it is in a cradle, even by touch, providing it is not distracting. It is amazing how many drivers think that reading and writing text messages or emails on a cradled device isn't distracting...
A great pity that the new legislation was not in force at the time.
a phone in the hand is worth a full prosecution. regardless
Doing that can be worse than using your phone when constantly moving because he had no idea what was going on around him. He didn't even look up when pulling off and a child could have stepped out in front of him while he was stationary and he would have ran them over
It's the way that they just don't care. Every time.
Steering wth his knees obviously 😂
@pinky
I take it this was in the back and the 'steering wheel'
was attached to your booster seat. 👼🍼
I cannot understand the METs reaction to this the guy was oblivious to his surroundings for several minutes……
TBF the Met did fine by this - it's the result of a poorly defined mobile phone law from 2002. The phone laws have since been updated and nowadays this would be an easy phone driving prosecution.
The MET's reaction was to prosecute. What is there to not understand?
@@CyclingMikey Hi Mikey, great work as usual, but stay safe.
Have you published any of your catches under the new laws yet? If not, when will your old catches drop out and the new catches start to appear?
It will certainly be "Look! Look! Look!" When the fine drops on the hallway floor
At 2:18, was you aware of the mother fastening her seatbelt
Keep up the good work!
Can't believe people still don't bother to have their seatbelt on. Surprised in a car that age it wasn't nagging, mine would be bonging all the way through the journey.
that was hilarious 🤣
That scooter rider with shorts and runners, hope he stays upright 🙈. I use to wear full gear when I rode even in the heat of the Aussie summer day.
Seriously it does my head in when you see idiots riding bikes with fuck all protection!! Doesn't warrant thinking about the cost of skin grafts!! Fucking twats!!
1:32 Steering into you completely oblivious and 2:16 hasn’t checked his passenger has their seatbelt on.
While it's not great for him if she doesn't wear one (it would waste his time being pulled over while they deal with her), he's not liable and it's not his responsibility.
So many SUVs in that traffic, ridiculous!
Greetings from LA! Love your vids.
What amazes me isn't the uber drivers on the phone but the black taxi's. Perhaps I'm naive but somehow you expect better from a black cab. Caught two black cabs within 2 hours both using a hand-held phone. Both had passengers in the back as well which makes it particularly egregious.
Driving without due care and attention
Appalling driving, especially with a (paying?) pregnant passenger. At least three time he pulled away with no hands on the wheel and totally engrossed in his phone. Hope they throw the book at him!
Keep up the great work, Mike and ride safe :-)
Why is it legal for you to use a camera whilst cycling, but illegal for a driver to use a camera on a phone?
Camera fixed to helmet?
We saw the scooters overtaking the cars and slotting in when there were oncoming cars. If they had paused in front of that guy, he could have bumped them.
I think you need another phrase for 'professional driver' Mikey as it clearly doesn't fit . How about "as someone who is paid to drive" ?
@Tim I am aware, my point is these drivers do not deserve that particular adjective
I don’t mind Uber drivers taking phone calls through Bluetooth. But with that driving I’d question wtf is he doing.
Just be aware that evidence from safety studies demonstrates that answering a phone call hands free (whether a Bluetooth earpiece or in car system) causes worse reactions from a driver than being in excess of the drink drive limit.
I cannot urge people strongly enough, if you are in a vehicle and the driver receives a call, ask them not to take it. Hands free options may be legal, but they are still ridiculously dangerous.
In the netherlands no private footage would be accepted as evidence . And you could yourself end up with a €160 for using a road where a bike lane is provided .
He's certainly engrossed in that phone. The swerves to avoid hitting the gutter were clear.
he has no idea what you are talking about ]
most probably don't understand you as well
She didn’t have her seat belt on she puts it on when she can see you.
I miss summer
Me too!.. it is so cold today..
"No evidence of interactive communication"? He was using his freaking phone!
He was holding the phone. Does that not count as phone use, whether interactive or not?
That one scooter just ripped through the crosswalk with people crossing. They got his license number there in the video.
Dude doesn't really speak English. I'm sure he learned a couple of new words through this process.
Oh come on Mikey….of course it’s OK….he’s stuck in traffic 🙄 Shocking!
I don’t think the Women cared that much about her Child in the back, they way he was moving around didn’t look like he had a Seat Belt On?
In the driving theory test there's a trick question, when is it safe to take a call while driving 1.while holding the phone or 2.hands free the correct answer is never.
In a plastic KIA as well so less chance of surviving in a crash. What a 🔔 end.
To top it off did you notice the Aston Martin Cygnet coming toward camera at about 3:30 mins? Reag no AML50.
Very rare car - good spot!
Aston Martin Cygnet at 03:31, not often you see one of those.
That's a pity but a result never the less.
I would have thought with all the evidence you had the police would have thrown the book at him.
Totally oblivious. 🙄
Shocking
For anyone on their phone:
10% fine based on their yearly salary or £2,000 (whatever is higher)
And 3 points
We'd be able to fund the NHS overnight!
It does seem to be a religion for some people, so perhaps a tithe is appropriate!
An absolute disgrace. They're obsessed with the things
He literally has a phone holder, shame he didn't use it!
The pedestrian nearly crashing thier little wheeled bag at 2:17 needs urgent analysis!
Thought someone had copy/pasted all the cars at the start.
Oh, the irony! Prepared to put others at risk but wears a mask to protect himself 😂
Masks are mainly to protect others.
Masks aren't worn to protect yourself. If his passenger had sneezed, the airborne droplets can get into his eyes directly or via his own skin if he rubs his eyes. If he sneezed, the mask would contain the droplets. Masks help other people.
oblivious ! that's shocking !
I love the jaws music, when I hear it on these videos I immediately think oh he's got one lol 😆 love it hehe
I'm greatful for my partner as when he is driving me and our daughter he even tells us as passengers and one of us in even in the back seat not to be on our phones as its a distraction to him aswell, its normal now for us all not to be on any of our phones while we r in the car and tbh its less stressful and our attention is on each other and having fun together playing games like I SPY
Love that!
Unbelievable and carrying a pregnant passenger and wearing a mask!!! What’s the point, if you are then using a mobile phone whilst driving!!! Well done again, Mikey 👍👍👍
First to comment. Some drivers just don’t even care 👎🏻
also at 2:15 the pregnant passenger only started putting on seatbelt , should'nt the driver be responsible for ensuring all passengers wear seatbelts before driving away, not sure if theres a different law regarding pregnant passengers but im sure its the same law for everyone to wear one, and another thing is how can he not get done for having handheld device (phone) while driving just because there was no interactive comunication, isnt what he was doing the same as driving while texting
It's only the driver's responsibility for any passengers under 14. Otherwise, it's the passenger's responsibility, and the passenger who may get fined.
Pregnant ladies must still wear a belt, unless they have a medical exemption from a doctor.
What are people doing driving around at one mile per hour in SUV’s for? Noticed two pedestrians one with a mask on! How did you know it’s a Uber, there seemed to be no markings, marking the vehicle out as a private hire?
It was hard to see, but there was a green roundel in the back window.
@@CyclingMikey Is that all they need? It should be marked up with a plate for identification like law abiding private hire companies. Utter disgrace companies like Uber!
This baffles me , while in queue it’s ok isn’t it , cars aren’t moving . NO NO NO HELL NO HOW MANY NO’s do you need 🤨
some things never change on the road lol
Was this before the rules changed on phone use? The comment at the end about 'no evidence of interactive communication' surprised me.
June 2021 ,a s per caption at the start of the video. So before. Would be a slam-dunk 6 point offence now.o
Surely if you do anything other than look at the screen, i.e. scroll, enter any data or respond to a prompt etc that is "interactive" because you are interacting with whatever is appearing on the screen?
I expect some smart-arsed lawyer has argued this in court so a precedent which contradicts common sense has been set😡
It says June 2021 at the beginning, so yes it was - law changed in March 2022.
Yes this is pre new rules... mikey has a mix of older and newer uploads dependent on time..like met replies to sometimes court cases.
Thanks for taking the time to respond guys.
I was wondering what the hell he was doing on his phone. It looked monotonous. At first I thought it might be something where he gets money from people clicking on a link so was clicking on it himself many hundreds of times throughout the day. But then you said “deleting locations”. My question is why? Why delete locations??
I think it was either in Google Maps or in his Uber app. I'm not sure.
Beyond disgusting, take his licence now
How old is the video? It's been illegal to hold a mobile phone while driving even when not for communication since 25th March 2022.
I know but now you see it now more than ever. Well I notice it because I'm looking for it more.
People obviously aren't learning so the punishment must become more severe.
It was filmed in June 2021.
Says June 2021 at the start of the video
What happened to « driving without due care and attention »?
Would his PHV licence be at risk for not ensuring his passenger was wearing a seatbelt as well?
Think that only applies to minors , yes I know there was a minor in the back though
I thought was to all
you do noble work. But you need to be careful, a lot of people carry guns, weapons and are unstable
One reason why I want to immigrate to New York in the future 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Car shite is much MUCH worse in NYC, btw.
Unacceptable behaviour. And the Prius driver, with zero knowledge of what's going on, still feels the need to drop the classic "there's a bike lane over there"
why has he got a mask on? Presumably for city pollution but it wont stop the particulates, waste of time. Good time to wear a mask is when cutting up MDF sheets etc, but not for city pollution.
Was the child in a correct seat with a belt?
Something else to talk about at the funeral? (I take that that was the destination.)
Is sitting on your bike on the outside of the lane; immediately prior to a bend in the road, a good idea?
The Met police are a joke, clearly playing/using his phone swerving side to side in the lane with a pregnant passenger and a child.
TBF the Met did fine by this - it's the result of a poorly defined mobile phone law from 2002. The phone laws have since been updated and nowadays this would be an easy phone driving prosecution.
@@CyclingMikey thanks for the clarification 👍
How long does it take to choose a babys name 🤣🤣🤣
Im sure TFL licencing ensure that drivers have a good knowledge of the English test, that driver didnt have a call what you was talking about. He is gonna have a hard time communicating in English in court. You will be getting 3 penalty points ....... Ya ya , clear, clear, look look
In UK we English don't say, "I wish you good business".
It sounds creepy.
overduidelijk een PPP (piss poor professional), vind je ook niet, Mikey?
het soort chauffeur waar ik het liefst ver bij uit de buurt blijf...
I get this is not right to do but, I don't understand why people like this guy he just causes problems for no reason. This is like calling the police for someone jaywalking
Stationary phone drivers are still dangerous for many reasons:
1) Should a child or shorter person cross in front of them they wouldn't even see them, and would likely then move off, running them over. Notice how WFN364 (google for videos) drives forwards whilst looking at his phone? This is common behaviour from phone drivers. Here's an example someone else caught where the driver almost takes out a pedestrian at a crossing:
twitter.com/phonekills/status/1491526464520560641?s=20
2) They are entirely unaware of filtering cyclists and motorcyclists. These drivers are often slow to react when the queue starts moving, and then when someone behind them beeps they drop the phone and hastily move off without even looking.
3) If you imagine these people only use their phones when queuing at the traffic lights, that's terribly naïve. The gardener in LM63BTZ was on the phone whilst driving along, and quite likely had been doing it for some considerable part of his journey. These phone users are constantly using their phones, but it's just much easier to catch them when they're in the queue.
4) Phone distraction lasts for a good time after you put the phone away. Even if you're only using the phone in each traffic queue at each junction (which is highly unlikely), then you're constantly topping up your mental distraction and are basically as disabled as a drunk driver.
5) Phone driving is worse than drink driving for distraction rates, and that's why it's part of the #Fatal4 behaviours that police target heavily.
6) Here's a police officer telling you that he has been on the scene for 3 fatal RTCs involving drivers who were stationary whilst using their phones, and then moved off and caused a collision: twitter.com/markandcharlie/status/1604073330751197184?s=20&t=uj8sgu7spu4cTyDqqqds2g
7) People who knowingly break minor driving law will likely also break more serious laws. Strong policing of minor traffic offences has a strong effect on reducing collisions resulting in killed and seriously injured people. It's good to police these phone drivers.
I'm really not interested in this nonsense of "it's not dangerous when stationary, because it clearly is and it's clearly still very appropriate to catch these drivers.
That’s a fair cop!
Are you dropping your standards ? Did t this happen in 2002? Why is there no date and if this happened pre mobile law days HY is it getting posted in 2023 and WITHOUT including the penalty
Unless teal punishment is included these video clips are just TH-cam money smoking entertainment clips
😊😊😊
uber bellend
It's okay, it's an electric car. It has envirosaftylogical powers.
Typical Kia driver
once again the police being lazy, did the child have a seat belt on ?
First!
Well done, collect your retard prize on the way out
Good catch Mikey!