How Not To Audition for Berklee

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  • A few things you should not do when auditioning for Berklee. #Berklee, #drumset, #groove, #pocket, #educational
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  • @JustinSteereMusic
    @JustinSteereMusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +318

    I went to Berklee in 2003. This is spot on. There's all kinds of personalities in the classes when you go there. The audition process shouldn't be a showcase of showing off it's just a showcase of what they ask you to play. It's different then playing at your house or on a stage. It's a professional atmosphere so you have to always keep that in mind. Having professionalism as a player and showing respect of the professors time will always impress and put you in their good graces more than anything.

    • @williamperri3437
      @williamperri3437 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey man! I’ve watched three or four of the 2022/23 shred sessions on TH-cam, and these cats were horrible! Every single one of them had more physical stamina and faster single stroke rolls than me and most of planet earth, but out of about 20 drummers maybe 3 to 4 were interesting! I couldn’t believe that this is the same school that Vinny, Adam Deitch, and JP came from. I visualize the current Berkeley professors throwing a tantrum and going into the drum room and flipping out at how unmusical and competitive they all were! 😂 😢 actually, it was kind of sad.

    • @JustinSteereMusic
      @JustinSteereMusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@williamperri3437 The big thing with most music schools, especially Berklee, is that there's a variety of skill levels. From people that are flat out fantastic that are just there to make more music business contacts to people that barely know how to read sheet music. I was the more reserved type of player but a lot of dudes just wanted to show off and you could tell what their playing personality was pretty quickly. Sometimes it was almost like a showcase of musical insecurities. At the end of the day you have to remember that it's a school. What you get out of it depends on the work that you put into it. I ended up having a good 20+ year career so it was worth it for me.

    • @williamperri3437
      @williamperri3437 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JustinSteereMusic Great to hear that! Variety is the spice of life. Many different levels.

    • @themicrotonalguitarist
      @themicrotonalguitarist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good attitude and such is cool, but this kind of says something else too. Most people can't afford to even BE there

    • @JustinSteereMusic
      @JustinSteereMusic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@themicrotonalguitarist You can say that about any school. What does that have to do with anything I'm saying though? If someone wants to go to a school bad enough then they'll be willing to take the risk of having a student loan. If not, then they don't HAVE to go. Having the choice to go or not is the same as saying that most people can't afford it. 100% of the people that go that aren't on scholarship are all taking the same risk because they want to be there. So being able to afford being there depends on how much you actually want to be there.

  • @AlVelasquezDrums
    @AlVelasquezDrums 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    This is incredibly great advice for any young drummer Preparing to audition for ANYTHING. PS in 2016, my son was selected into Berklee’s summer Global Jazz Ambassador program. You were VERY helpful and kind regarding giving us info on the program and Berklee. I’m a fan. Thank you. 🙏🏽

  • @da_true_lo
    @da_true_lo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I remember taking your lessons in 2022's Five Week. I applied that year to Berklee and got a scholarship! Although I couldn't afford Berklee anyways, but it was an amazing experience being your student, specially since your lessons weren't just about drums, but also about being a proffesional musician and a better human being. Thanks for this video!

  • @corneliusmulhollandmusic3570
    @corneliusmulhollandmusic3570 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’m a keyboard player but there’s so much wisdom here for all musicians. Thanks man!

  • @FullContactDrummer
    @FullContactDrummer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Learning to take a complement is an art.

  • @bryseboynton9512
    @bryseboynton9512 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    about talking yourself down, i remember my dad telling me once "if you go to a restaurant, and the chef comes out right when you get your food and tells you every thing he did wrong, are you still gonna be hungry?"

    • @domagojoinky8262
      @domagojoinky8262 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would eat because I am hungry and only thing that matters is that my meal is fresh and tasty. When it comes to music, if it sounds good, it is good. I know some advanced theory and I can hit Amaj9 on a piano and I can find out a voicing that works on guitar, but there is nothing wrong if I just play the simple triad. It is better to play simple things with confidence than to try to impress somebody and play polychords in 11/16 time and do it in non musical way. The second aproach is wrong. On audition for drummer, if he or she cannot play afro cuban 6/8 it does not matter. If he or she does 4/4 straight 8ths but with overplaying and timing is all over the place, it is game over.

  • @setonhillstudios
    @setonhillstudios 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great advice! Especially about not "over adjusting" and overplaying. Many times being professional and courteous will get you further than your talent will.

  • @allengoyne
    @allengoyne 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Guitarist here, what you said applies to me too. I have that bad habit of downing myself after gigs, and I am trying to rid myself of that tendency. I am looking to do an audition at our state university in about a year, but I have plenty of recitals and juries ahead of that so opportunities to put the new habits in practice. Thanks for this video.

  • @hughgrubbs4034
    @hughgrubbs4034 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Awesome advice!!!
    I auditioned back in the 80's. It was the most relaxed audition EVER. I had auditioned for The New England Conservatory a few weeks before (I had NO business being at that one.) and wore a suit. When it was my turn to go in, I shook the professor's hand. I have a firm handshake and he was having problems with his right hand at the time. UGH!! He was nice about it, but I felt horrible. He invited me to take off my jacket and my shoes - like I said earlier, really laid back LOL! He asked me to play some eighth note rock, sixteenth note rock, some swing, a shuffle, and then some latin. I was upfront with him that my latin chops were non existent. He said no problem and started singing a lick for me to play. I made my way through it and thanked me for trying. I thought I was going to sight-read some charts, but he through a snare drum method book in front of me and asked me to read it down. It was pretty easy. I was accepted but unfortunately it wasn't the right fit for me. I was looking to get a Music Ed degree and at the time, might still be, it was really geared to the performer. It was an awesome experience!

  • @spyrosmagliveras8851
    @spyrosmagliveras8851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is awesome Larry :)
    Thanks! Many greetings from Italy!

  • @ddrumcorner4682
    @ddrumcorner4682 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was actually pretty hilarious to me!!! lol subbed!

  • @Samcomply
    @Samcomply 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cool video to see. A lot of what you said definitely applies to life in general as well.

  • @ivorjones9961
    @ivorjones9961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent explanation, love the videos, thanks very much.

  • @rondeangelis7384
    @rondeangelis7384 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Larry well done on both videos. First video is gold and if you do what you advised, then that person will have thumbs up what you are saying in this video. How to believe someone would be unprepared but i guess it happens. 👌

  • @onesyphorus
    @onesyphorus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    lol this is just good advice in general for a lotta things

  • @psimmonz
    @psimmonz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is really great. Thank you.

  • @FadjarMoeljarto
    @FadjarMoeljarto 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good information...thanks👍🥁

  • @CharlesBright1
    @CharlesBright1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you sir for this insight ✨

  • @markblair1052
    @markblair1052 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you,I needed that!

  • @m.a.nathaniel7660
    @m.a.nathaniel7660 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    This is gold as it can be applied to any audition. Thanks very much 🙏

  • @edwardssistershands
    @edwardssistershands 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can only imagine, after watching this, that all those ticks on the wall are souls you've crushed.

  • @intradibles
    @intradibles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is why I taught the drums myself. 😂😂😂

    • @adamgoodberg3916
      @adamgoodberg3916 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly 👍..if you can’t teach yourself,go to Berkeley and become someone else’s pet!
      Instead…go and take some illegal substances and listen to Alvin Stoller

  • @inktime
    @inktime 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great tips and all true.

  • @tommylee85
    @tommylee85 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This sound more like a life lesson, and a very good one.

  • @wolfumz
    @wolfumz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is good advice not just for auditions, but exams and interviews of any kind. For any "test", your performance is not based on how much you have crammed in the last five days. Rather, your performance is based on what you've been doing for the last five years (or more). Go in there and let it show.

  • @keithwegiel5902
    @keithwegiel5902 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice vid…
    In fact, this applies to any audition or interview.
    Good life lesson
    Thx !!

  • @thaddeuscorea
    @thaddeuscorea 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good info . well said!

  • @bradnovak6132
    @bradnovak6132 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was fortunate enough to study with Larry FInn for a short time in 1996. I still have all the material he gave me. Larry doesn't know it but he was pivotal for my development. Larry was very eye-opening for me! Thank you Mr Finn!!

  • @cx777o
    @cx777o 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The thing with downtalking myself is something I deal with too much, even though people really enjoyed my playing. Thanks for the list, the rest are obvious points which should be followed with some basic human understanding lol

  • @natefreedman2972
    @natefreedman2972 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol, i auditioned last season on drums! Wish I saw this video before cause the afro cuban thing stumped me😅😂

  • @PappyBiceps
    @PappyBiceps 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You seem like a great guy, amazing natural command of attention too.

  • @leocomerford
    @leocomerford 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here's the earlier "Auditioning for Berklee (drum set)" video mentioned at 0:23 : th-cam.com/video/sEY6pChc1ts/w-d-xo.html

  • @raylombardo4186
    @raylombardo4186 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow !!!! Things have CHANGED immensley since my 1968 Audition !

  • @ryanthec
    @ryanthec 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “Can you play an Afro-Cuban sixth eighth?”
    I would have said…”What?”

  • @sethwexler6910
    @sethwexler6910 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent. Every HS senior drummer should watch this.

  • @Jay-Go
    @Jay-Go 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great advice. 👍🏻
    (Side note: there's a little hint of Bryan Cranston in your delivery. 🕶)

  • @luisfernando-mm3jt
    @luisfernando-mm3jt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice advice

  • @thesuccessfulbarber
    @thesuccessfulbarber 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn. I always talk myself down and neber noticed it

  • @simonrigby2776
    @simonrigby2776 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ha .. I used to do the same thing .. when someone said we were great I'd have all the excuses etc. The guy who ran the club and a friend of mine stopped me one night and said .. "You do realise you just told that guy he was wrong?"
    Never forgot it.

  • @marcogeraci2555
    @marcogeraci2555 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wished I had seen this about 20 years ago! haha!

  • @lonely_ghost9857
    @lonely_ghost9857 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think smth I'm currently trying to work on is just accepting compliments and/or graces. I would say part of it but really it's almost entirely with me being overly humble. Now I don't ever plan on going to Berklee although it sounds great,but just in general I often don't really enjoy compliments. Never did for the past 3-4 years. Now I'll GIVE other people compliments but I just never am able to receive it.
    I just say thanks and move on. Now as Humble musicians I do believe it's important that we remain humble as much as anything goes whether it's the skill, talent, or experience. However my mind can just never process compliments for whatever reason. It's definitely hard for me as much as I hate receiving any form of compliments. I've been drumming now for 9 years and I've spent a good amount involved with a few groups and communities but that huge part of me will still never accept compliments or praises by any means.

    • @prefabrication
      @prefabrication 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i feel the same as you, reading through this... i can't stand compliments because of my humbleness so much it hurts to receive one...

  • @MarkFeldman
    @MarkFeldman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ha ha. thanks. funny and true.

  • @InceyWincey
    @InceyWincey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is just good advice in general.

  • @joshcoxmusic
    @joshcoxmusic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂 yes exactly. He's hilarious

  • @C1c4da
    @C1c4da 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    not talking yourself down is such good advice.
    I used to always talk myself down and thought it made me sound humble or at worst, insecure. Then I realized, if someone thinks youre really good and you talk down about yourself you might just look like a douchebag. Or like you said, you might just come off as too negative.

  • @sappermade6012
    @sappermade6012 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Take you and your Berkley and stick it!

    • @LarryFinn
      @LarryFinn  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You mispelled Berklee.

  • @drummerboyharm3078
    @drummerboyharm3078 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking back. I did all things wrong and did not pass 😢 (no talent 😂)

  • @grawakendream8980
    @grawakendream8980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    don't act chummy
    don't over adjust
    don't try to show off the moment you sit down, it's bad manners
    don't talk yourself down or up
    don't preface with how good or how you are at something

  • @GooseExe
    @GooseExe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why does youtube want me to audition for Berklee i live in canada and im 15

  • @Joe-yi8xj
    @Joe-yi8xj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    God the bar is so low

  • @DesignRhythm
    @DesignRhythm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ironically, 99% of the musicians I have met who studied at Berklee, didn't want the audience to know they went to Berklee. I guess there is some stigma that they actually "care" about their craft or something. You guys are amazing though... most recent discovery was Molly Tuttle.

  • @Methodmemo3000
    @Methodmemo3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Never took a drum lesson. Grew up dirt poor , and I have dyslexia 😅. Been playing non stop for 20 years now . I lead with my left hand , even though im right handed 😅. I cant read music but i do have an ear for it. I can play almost any music within one take and can create on the spot. Occasionally i find a song with different time signature changes and i take it as a challenge. Because i can't read music ive been shamed before . Especially people from berklee( Live in Los Angeles, they are everywherehere ), im surprised this guy is nice . To be real , i figure it was a rich people only club kind of vibe. But he seems like a cool dude 😎

    • @jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866
      @jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have dyslexia and could barely read when I got a scholarship to Berklee. I graduated and still can't sight read all that well (and probably never will be able to) but there are way to get around a lack of sight reading ability. even if you're like me and can't sight read well you can still learn how reading works so you can take charts home and learn them at your own pace, as well as be able to wright down your ideas, do transcriptions, ...etc. there are a lot of rich kids at Berklee, but at the same time a little less than half of the student body is on merit scholarship (at least when i was there) and a lot of folks get full rides so its not just a bunch of rich kids.

  • @tommykavounidis
    @tommykavounidis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing left out as someone who graduated in 2019 is preparing for all other theory core classes. You can save a lot of money by testing out of those classes.

  • @dmgsoultogetherness6667
    @dmgsoultogetherness6667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂😂😂

  • @johncopeland3826
    @johncopeland3826 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If i were to start a new work project ,i would be nice and calm , take a step back , read the room from the start and blend in very quietly and politely without trying to be a horse's ass weisenheimer .... You will last much longer in the job in my opinion . Its not quantum computing?

  • @allenmitchell09
    @allenmitchell09 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    First ask yourself why you are about to drop a fortune on a paper that won't help you earn back that lost fortune.

  • @neckarsulme
    @neckarsulme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NOT MY TEMPO!!!!!!

  • @thebeatclinic9000
    @thebeatclinic9000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just be yourself. On a perfect day. When all of the planets are aligned. 😂 This is a joke.

  • @Uberjazz
    @Uberjazz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk if they cant grasp that some people arent the best at taking compliments, this far into their music/teaching career, then theres something seriously wrong in there heads if theyre reaching the conclusion youve considered.
    Would be surprised if thats received in the way youve described by the majority of profs, like a slight. If it is, there are some serious victim complexes amongst the profs.

  • @JammerDead
    @JammerDead 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was fresh out of high-school with only 4 years of self-taught guitar playing, and wanted to go to Berklee to learn more. I come from an immigrant lower mid class family, but my parents were willing to save and make as much money if I get accepted. My audition was GARBAGE. I can sight-read SUPERRRRRRR SLOWLYYYYYYYYY, but can't play anything on the spot. If anything ,what I sight read before my audition was pure memory. I panicked so much I messed up on 12-bar blues. My original piece was a thing I made up on the spot because I was focused on playing my usual practice repertoire of cover songs and originals that I forgot to write an original for Berklee. I made something very Jimi Hendrix inspired, with a lack of direction a bit, that they told me to stop.
    In the interview portion, I held strong on the fact that I just wanted to improve on my guitar playing and being in a music environment with a focus on being taught it would help me. Ironic that I despised the 2 month lessons I had sophomore year because I was being taught lead instead of a general path. I feel like I knew what I wanted to do, but I still lacked direction. I was still adamant on going to this school because of all the youtube videos I've seen of graduates and people who were amazing. I wanted skill, yet was so lost somehow. It was like "my way" only because my biggest worry, inserted into my head by other people, was losing the love of music because of school.
    I didn't figure out till 2019 at another college (that I enjoyed) that I really wanted to study Ethnomusicology/Historical Musicology (and more recently an interest in Music Business), but never had the chance to because my field is super niche. I like the branches of how musicians and artists affect one another directly/indirectly, and cause zeitgeists to happen. I had a grudge against Berklee to be better than them somehow (teen angst, ahhh...) but it motivated me for sure. I still can't sightread, but I'm confident in my ability now to play any instrument (and learn it), and play improv anytime.
    I still would love to get a free ride or at least somewhat paid because I'm such a nerd when it comes to Ethnomusicology that I'm doing my own research on the side, but I hope Berklee kept my audition if they filmed it :)

    • @citizenworld8094
      @citizenworld8094 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you'd be better off learning music than wasting your time writing this stuff. It's only interesting to you. A tip from a pro. One day you might thank me for this freebie.

    • @JammerDead
      @JammerDead 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@citizenworld8094 Thanks for nothing ❤️💀

  • @KennyMennyKiller
    @KennyMennyKiller 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wouldn't audition for Berklee. I'd smoke crack in Berkeley, tho.

  • @harrisonanthos8769
    @harrisonanthos8769 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    L school

  • @stephanmarcouxdrums4877
    @stephanmarcouxdrums4877 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We are in 2023. Getting in serious debts to learn to play drums is not smart. As this guy is explaining, all of this have nothing to do with your skills or how great you sound like. It's about being agreable, basically dealing with relationship, and doing whatever they are asking to do. It's more a powertrip of ego and personnality then actual good musicians wanting to play good music. Especially obvious when one of my friend, a music school teacher, having 30 years of experience in the reality of music, but still he is creating 13 minutes songs, extremely complicated, that no one is ever going to enjoy or listening to. That's why ordinary music can pop out, it's because the people in power care more about how you are, and does not care about the value of your music or what you are playing. The White Stripe is a good example of mediocre music, mediocre musician, doesn't stop Drumeo to put that pathetic drummer in a Top 100 best drummers of all time.

    • @-______________________
      @-______________________ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for breathing life into this brainless comment section.

    • @dougsrosen
      @dougsrosen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You must be a lot of fun at parties.

    • @-______________________
      @-______________________ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dougsrosen I'd have a beer with this guy for sure

    • @sarcasticguy4311
      @sarcasticguy4311 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dougsrosen I completely agree with this guy. Short version:
      Go to Berklee! Learn to play Jazz! Be broke and in massive debt your entire life!

  • @funkygh
    @funkygh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Better advice is - "Don't audition for Berklee" lol...

  • @zoohuman
    @zoohuman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I play left handed, if the drum set is set up for a right-handed person I will readjust the cymbals and they're going to have to deal with it.😁

  • @frankgrimes7388
    @frankgrimes7388 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why would anyone even want to go to Berklee? Music snobs with their made up rules. Berklee doesn't understand music as an art.

    • @srbournival
      @srbournival 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You must not know about the amazing artists that went to Berklee.

  • @Dragndroprecords
    @Dragndroprecords 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So Who the F are you, and what do you know about auditioning for Berklee???

    • @LarryFinn
      @LarryFinn  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Berklee professor.

    • @brandenlikesbeer
      @brandenlikesbeer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Foot, meet Mouth...

    • @williamperri3437
      @williamperri3437 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Are you OUT OF YOUR MIND? I mean, for real man. Please take a moment to redeem yourself (not that you can) and tell us what planet you reside on. Even if this guy was not a professor there, doesn’t it seem obvious that he might have an idea of what he’s talking about?

    • @derrickburwell7777
      @derrickburwell7777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @DerHerrMitR
      @DerHerrMitR 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Behold the idiot.

  • @-______________________
    @-______________________ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot the most important tip - mention you have money
    Berklee grads are overrated 🙄

  • @MentallyRetardedHamilton
    @MentallyRetardedHamilton 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're not A-OK. You need a dad like this so you can blast beat in 7/8 at age 9.