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Now based in LA, Louie Palmer has played with Mike Stern, Tom Scott, Gary Husband, Luis Conte, Tim Lefebvre, Mitch Forman, Janek Gwizdala, Charles Altura, Ruslan Sirota, Bob Franceschini and many more.
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It's no coincidence that so many people ask you to talk about flow. Even compared with giants like Vinnie and Gadd you're (in my opinion) among the best when it comes to flow, clarity, vocabulary and phrasing orchestration. Also, you're one of the best at putting your approach into words, which is no small feat by itself. You really have a quality for decoding and breaking down your drumming in a way that is understandable by newbies and veterans alike. Your students are very lucky! 🙌💥
Thanks!! Appreciate it!
I totally agree. I'm amazed by your drumming and especially by your sound. What kit and snare are you playing? Cheers from Poland
@@dominikdudek16 thanks! Drums are Pearl Masters Maple Gum with Evans G2’s. Cymbals all Meinl Byzance. Snare is WTS Steve Pruitt signature model.
Okay, I'll do it. How do I sign up?
@@badhabits25 just go to playbetterdrums.com!
I never leave comments but I needed to say that out of the hundreds of videos I've watched this has been the most helpful in building my confidence and understanding of how to work around the drum kit. I always get stuck when I just want to freestyle but I sat down at my kit after this video and just used the snare and hi hat to try this out. Literally overnight i've found the confidence to play around the entire kit using toms and all, still at a slow 80bpm but I can't believe how much this has changed my drumming. Not only that but it helped me pick up the intricacies of HOW I was playing, noticing how loud or quietly my sticking was. Absolute life changer, thank you!
Thanks!! So glad you found it helpful!
Just found your channel. Very nice! I appreciate your “simple done well” approach. Much, or even all, of what you said here really resonates with me. I played for a church worship group for 23 years, yet I don’t know much of anything. I’ve always simply played from the heart and somehow, I’m overwhelmed but how many people are truly blessed by what they hear. There was a gentleman in our congregation who played first chair trombone in the Chicago Symphony Orchestra for something like, 45 years. He was in his mid 90s. He approached me one day, put his hands firmly on my shoulders, and said, “kid, you got it!” I’ll always remember that as my greatest affirmation!! We became friends and he shared so many great stories, and was a great encouragement to me!
Anyway, your teaching also affirms my ability/gift, and mentality that I put into the music that I love to play along with. I think of dynamics, tools in the tool box, complimenting the music, keeping the instrument flavorful, colorful. Playing to the room, accenting rhythms, and leaving room for melodies. Filling holes, and leaving empty spaces. I love that , even though I don’t know what I’m doing, people are seriously enjoying it and expressing a feeling of joy through the way I play. It’s truly a gift that God has given me, as I’ve never had a lesson in my life. Truly a gift!
Thank you for your instructions, and thank you for letting me share!!
Bless you friend!!
instant subscription. took drum lessons for over 13 years. this took me back to my glory days of sitting on the kit and just letting my brain get into that flow state. definitely makes me wanna hop back on the kit. thanks a lot louie
Thanks!
I love this lesson and reminder. I’ve been a professional gigging drummer for 30 years and I currently struggle with this. It’s definitely a mindset that needs to shift. I never thought grooves and fills were two of the same. Thank you. Love your channel.
Great video!
Great teacher!
When he used the word improvising, he addressed a concept that few players of any instrument seem to grasp effectively.
Even though I’ve been playing for decades,
I know I’m not the world’s greatest membranophonist.
As a child,
I recoiled at the notion of learning every rudiment, or merely being a time keeper.
I did solo quite a bit back in the day, and received accolades, but became bored playing other people’s music.
Clocks, clicks, metronomes, and drum machines all have their places.
And most music would flounder without them.
As far as style goes,
what so many people with drum sets do is to try and mimic players whom they emulate, with no idea that each of us has a unique voice in the musical conversation if we can let go of any fear, and trust instinct and the creative process, and put in the work to express themselves.
Few there are who can just sit down and pull off magnificently phrased fills, and perfectly timed dynamics without dedicated hard work.
Mastery requires sacrifice and patience.
Most of the great and famous jazz musicians I’ve had a chance to thank for their contribution to my life before and after shows, have all answered two questions similarly.
1.) what makes good music?
Answer:
Music that leaves space for silence and room to breathe.
That is to say NOT a cacophonous wall of noise with limited frequency range or dynamic subtlety.
2.) What makes a truly great musician?
Answer:
Great musicians are even better LISTENERS.
Being able to hear the other players individually, and how the sound in the room reaches out and touches you, then adding tasteful accompaniment is key to successful improvisational interaction musically.
Adding only what the piece requires to move forward effectively is key.
The “less is more” concept seems to apply well in this approach.
Making music is as close to godliness as I’ve yet to experience, and I encourage anyone to find their own tone and approach to really find the sweet spot that is waiting for those who dare to be different.
Play from the heart not the head, and you’ll be amazed what you can do.
Who are you and what do/did you do? Those were very touching words, even wise, I dare say. They come from a lot of experience, I guess.
Music with no preconceived restrictions or parameters.
Inspired on the spot, in real time.
None of us knows what will be played, or how it will sound before we begin. Being “in the moment and present” is as good a descriptor of the technique as any.
So.. where’s YOUR channel? 😉
Awesome stuff man 🔥💯
One thing I'd also add that really helped me out a lot with vocabulary was (weirdly enough) playing the drums without music.
When there's no music, it give me a chance to really hear what I'm doing, note for note, with every accent and ghost note.
Really helped me be more intentional on the kit when playing with a band, because I knew what everything was going to sound like before I even played it.
This has been on my mind the last week. Joined a new band and went to see them with their current drummer. He did a small solo and I freaked as I may be asked to do it.
I can play in the pocket and do basic fills, but am petrified of having to do a solo. Thanks for this.
Takes practice dude. Whatever the song is, listen to the accents then start putting the solo together in bars of 2 or 4 depending on length. I usually keep the rhythm for a bar, adding in other accents, then go to Tom's in a different pattern for 2 bars, getting quieter, then snare crescendo, adding cymbal crash accents for 2 bars, stop on one and count the band back in. Took me about a month to get comfortable. Once you get the structure down, you won't have to think about it and can add your own flavor to be each solo.
@@timhusted6698 Mate I've asked two online drum instructors the same question and got the same answer. Do you get pissed off when you put a drum lesson on line and someone comes up in the comments section with "here's what I do.....I start on the crash, then slowly build on the snare blah blah blah" It pisses em off when they have a channel explaining their teachings and the keywboard warriors hijack the comments with a "better way." Get your own channel they say. Now before you hook into me - put yourself in their shoes - if its your channel with a lesson you're proud of and the comments are all the experts undermining YOU, how would you feel??
@@LeadingEdgeFitness1I think this guy was just helping out a dude who had some hesitations. I don’t think your speech was necessary. Actually pretty rude, man.
@@humblehombre9904 Well he should get his own channel to dish out advice, not someone else's. Read what I said, drum instructor's I have asked said it pisses em off.
Excellent video! And it’s SO GOOD to see someone playing traditional grip! I’ve used both, but mostly traditional, and so many online drum videos use match only. Thanks ever so much!!!
Beautiful Louie!!! ... I've made a bunch of my students watch this, hits the spot, and reiterates all that is important ... plus watching you play is an inspiration to all up-and-coming drummers!!
Thanks Russ!
I love the way you kind of snap your left wrist..i play drums some but im a bass player but i am definitely going to try this approach because i get bored w/ bass after 50 years!! Thanks for sharing!😊
thank you. that was just what i needed to know at this point in my drum development. i have been struggling with this for a while now and probably wasting time learning the wrong things. having never really spent a lot of time exploring just singles on the snare drum, when i tried it for the first time it was a massive reality check. awesome information thank you again
The very first time I played in public as a kid in the 60's in a garage band, I was amazed at the POWER that I had when I watched the dancers. I don't mean "power" in the normal sense, but in the responsibility I had in providing the heartbeat for the dances. If the drummer stops, the dancing stops. This was exciting and scary at the same time. From that, I realized how important keeping time was. I didn't take this lightly and I started taking my drumming seriously because there was responsibility attached. I started taking lessons in professional jazz drumming and I haven't stopped learning since.
No, the drummer doesn't have to worry about harmony, notes, chords, keys or anything the other musicians have to worry about. But, if the drummer fails, he/she pulls everyone else down and causes them to fail. "With great power, comes great responsibility."
Love this lesson, just love it. Thank you for sharing this!!
The maple/gum Pearl shells are just beautiful sounding. Cool lesson, I’ll check out more of your stuff.
I t think that's the most helpful online lesson I ve ever seen. Thanks a lot for sharing this!
The 3’s, 5’s, 7’s lesson, combined with RLLK is where it’s at. Your videos and these two concepts is what opened it all up for me.
That and dynamics.
Best online lessons available, fellow drummers. Seriously.
Thanks!
Awesome… the facilitating and examples are on point.
A great perspective on playing outside the "playing time vs. playing fills" thinking. So many of us were locked into that realm until we realized it really is all the same. The influence of Gadd,
Weckyl, Caliauta, Chambers, and the like is evident all over this video. It really does create a flow and continuity so often missing. Thanks, I will be back
Nice. And the sound, incredibly voluminous 😊
Very good point made regarding playing notes deliberately, this exercise is fantastic for that purpose.
Great advice and Lesson!love it! Will definitely pull this into my playing! Greets from Germany
I really appreciate the wisdom of your lesson here and it finds me at the right time. There are so many online drum schools these days it's almost options overload. Thinking of giving this one a shot though. Your message is thoughtful and articulate and inspiring, as is your playing.
Thanks! Hope to see you in the school!
Fantastic video! I'm going to practice this right now. I started out as an American drum corps and I can play a lot of rudiments and I do use them around the kit but nothing sounds cleaner than singles with varying accents. Thanks for the video!
Loved the content and the message as usual. Good job Louie!!
this was just mindblowing. thank you for simplifying the cheem cheem things into something so understandable & simple!
the best playing isn't one that is complicated, but one that builds on the basics. namely:
- singles on snare
- moving singles across toms
- adding doubles to singles, & then across toms
- being flexible in the way we play (be it sticking, directions across parts of the drums, or timing)
with rhythm + dynamics at the back of our minds while we learn how to express ourselves more comfortably through the drums
great video!
this is one of the best drum lessons I have ever saw on youtube. thanks Louie
Great advice I've been out of drumming before COVID hit and the last 15 yrs I've looked after kids I'm self tort but got in and played anything and my groove playing got interesting ghost notes accents, colour I'm back in doing a tafe course and maybe use some of you loops too work on .
Thanks Louie awsome .
It's amazing how what you played at 13.10 is exactly my playing right now!! Loads to take from this video. Thanks!
great helpful info. a lot of ECM release drummers have that vocabulary. jack dejohnette is one of my favorites. this will definitely help me. i am currently with a keyboard, guitarist and vocalist-rapper spontaneous singer. we do - spontaneous worship- . best description. we never know what we are going to do. ever. set up, pray and go. sometimes for 2 hours straight. we float time, there are grooves, and i pull earlier drum "beats" i have heard. plus, early lessons have us in bossa nova, samba even messed with a tango direction. and then stuff just comes to me, and that is where we go. i do understand the the drummer is the leader in the group, learned that early on. it has helped my playing, freedom to say something. i 110% agree with the freeze on solos or when attention is turned to the drums. btw, i am 67 now and have played in many types of styles, high school and college concert bands and jazz bands, pick up bands, but mostly with friends i see eye to eye on and we have deep friendships. i recently bought a double BD pedal and a remote hi hat and am learning to play "backwards" that best is the friendships to play with great players who are serious and stellar personas.. very great info. really enjoyed it and learned quite a bit.
i really love your freedom on playing. it is where i want to end up.
I tend to gravitated to the smaller drum channels. They are not so perfect and professional. It’s more raw drumming and I enjoy that.
You Sound GREAT Brother !! Real Smooth Great FEEL.. !!!
Excellent advice! Vocabulary is everything to expression!
Wonderful stuff. You're a fine player, with no bs. This is a guy to follow, youngsters.
Even for an old drummer like me this is good practice. Your drums sound fab ny the way! Keep doing what you‘re doing! Thanks
I’m feeling those intricately nuanced
Snare wires doing their provocative magic in the underlying texture. Understated, yet significantly vital in the context. Twitchy satisfaction, mature and Vibey!! Must duplicate this confidence in creating an infectious groove.
Man, your kit sounds AMAZING! LOVE that snare sound. Wish my snare sounded like that! Excellent playing too. Very nice.
Thanks!
You are such a great teacher, man. Changing the way I look at drums every time.
Thanks!!
Great Explanation....
I rarely hear drummers talk about these things.
I am talking about things that you will NOT find in a music book!
John Riley would say " take a simple idea and expand on it".
Having that H/H on the 1/4 note
really tightens up your time.
Tx. for the Motivation
J.p.
Good talk Louie. Zero fear and let it flow. The new studio is looking gorgeous btw!
amazing lesson and concept! whenever im trying to think of 16th note triplet fills, im always instantly putting in kicks and doubles and trying to link stuff together i guess over complicating. 🤷♂️ looking forward to getting some single stroke inspiration!
Really good lesson. I have more thoughts but I’ll keep them to myself to incubate
The best lesson i've seen in a long time. Thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience.
Glad it was helpful!
Great stuff! I love this!😊
First time I've watched your videos. Great experience! Thank you 🙏
Man, I agree with you 100 % I am 75 years old, I started playing in 1963, and I never learned to read notes, but I never really played for anyone famous. The flow is one thing I know very little about. When I see veteran drummers these days, man I feel so misplaced and sad about not learning to read notes. I really hope I can get someone to help me get back in shape and teach me how to flow and play fills with confidence. I don't even know how I sound or what's my sound .
That's awesome. After a lifetime of playing gigs then retiring for family and a "real job" etc, a few of us around the 60 year old mark have started jammin' again and its so good. There is no such thing as being too old to play, but there is such a thing as being too dead. Love your work Ernest. If you happen to be in Melbourne Australia, were lookin' for a drummer.
@adambradley3284 : Big thanks, Bradley, but man, I am not leaving Brooklyn anytime soon, I agree with you that you never get too old to play , and also to know what my capability.
Thanks for this video. I studied with some great teachers, but none of them really addressed this key issue… I myself became comfortable with fills and solos relatively early on but needed to shore up my metronomic “lay down the groove” skills. I remember realizing that at some point, I was literally able to play everything I thought of in “real time” so basically I was singing the phrase in my head and my hands and feet executed it! Having that breakthrough was pivotal, but I still needed to get my chops together with the consistency of the groove. I pissed of a couple bass players during this time in my development, but I also befriended a few others because they were into this concept of “phasing” and also trying to break out of their bass player mode where they need to play the root on every downbeat etc. :) unfortunately I gave up playing drums for many years because of my new career as an orchestral composer :) but I’m back to my roots now:) drumming is one instrument that has infinite possibilities in terms of Timbre Tone … obviously Rhythm:). Where I hit the cymbal has such a huge impact. ! Great lesson.
Thank God your out there, you remind me of a guy who was my first mentor his name was Frank Miceli. He played with dynamics and filled me with a joy and wonder for playing drums! There are so many drummers who aren't playing with dynamics! I think your truly great,. Your friend,Fast Eddie Edno!
thanks!
This is very helpful 🤙🏽
Thanks for this Louie! Really great stuff! One of the best talks I've heard you give! Dig it!
Thanks!
Thanks Louie, for sharing good ideas!
i really needed to hear this , i've been stuck in the "straight groove player" mentality for far too long now. thanks so much for the video.
Very well explained , thanks !!
Very good ideas and suggestions and very good analysis of the improvisational approach which for me is having practiced many many things and then let them come out when you're improvising and respond to the moment musically trying to have a coherence as every moment defines the next. I'm a teacher too.
Great sounding drums and tuning by the way. I adored your toms.
Greetings from Greece. 🙂
Thanks!
I used to play from Stick Control. Same concept. Very nice!
Woow this is priceless !!! Amazing information. I will need to subscribe to your website !!!
Exquisite clarity
congratulations for the sound of the drums... but also for everything else, well done
Thanks!
Heh. When you play that smooth I see why the question comes up a lot. Dude is smooth as hell.
Bonjour . I don´t understand all, but i ear .Great . Bravo . Merci beaucoup
Eric
I can tell you why we overlook time and sound...because some of us who've not taken lessons don't know what we're doing! I'm one of those. I happen to have come upon this video and subscribed the first time I've seen you. I've never done that with any other on line video instructor or instruction. So, don't criticize those of us who don't understand time, sound and better flow like we should have all along.
he's not criticizing dude
I quit drumming when he started playing at 16:26
Hmph!!!
Kidding, awesome fills. They rocked and I learned a lot.
This was awesome. Thank you
Thank you for this amazing instructional video. You have a way of expressing very key points and making things simpler I'm 64 and started drumming at the age of 12 I've had several accidents that have affected my neurological system and in the process of trying to rehabilitate and through surgeries Etc just put me on a very limited budget. I'm trying to get a good sound out of my drums and I think I need new heads do you have any recommendations. listening to your video I remember years ago when my brothers and myself at a gospel band I owned a set of Black Pearl Drums with the white heads I don't remember what the brand I use those in the recording studio when we cut our album and they were the best sounding drums I've ever played. I have played off and on over the years while working full time and raising a family but now I live alone and I put a lot of money into my music room but you can't tell that because I had to replace all of my electronics at least two or three times due to some kind of electrical issue I'm going to get that fixed soon. Here anyway I have removed the heads and reattach them Entune according to not fast knowledge and TH-cam videos instructional videos. I finally have an old mixer with the drum microphones which does help the sound but I've got to work on the Acoustics of the drum room anyway my question is do you have a recommendation on an affordable set of heads for my Tom's only because I've already replaced the drum heads on my bass drum and my snare drum. Martin's or 12 in 13 inch and 16-inch head can I have a smaller 10 inch and an extra 16 inch which I will incorporate into the drum set once I have everything else taken care of. I have a very old set of Ludwig 5-piece but they were abused before I bought them and they look terrible but with the tight budget it seems like a good deal to me . Anyway I think the drums are fine other than the cosmetics. I just can't get a good sound out of them. If you have the time can you make any recommendations I'm about to purchase a $60 set of heads for the three Tom's. I think they are Ramos and supposed to have a muffling effect. It's funny I used to do like John Bonham used to do and I didn't realize it until recently but I cut strips of bed sheet and fold them over to make them thicker and put them under the drum heads for a better quality sound. Maybe I'll try the drum heads and go back to the cloth under the heads thank you you're amazing you're great. I subscribed to your channel.
Love this lesson and it is a big help !!!
Great!
Palmer is the best thank you for this sir ❤
Tremendous explanation 👏
This has been incredibly helpful!
you are an absolute master of FLOW ! it's the word i most associate with your playing style
thanks!
I like this philosophy a lot, and it applies just as well to guitarists and other kinds of musicians, thanks for sharing the wisdom
Great lesson, it surely helps drummers to think more musically when soloing….
This is a great video Louie, A great message not just for drummers but for ALL musicians, The voice mic sounds great! I think I’m gonna scrap using a lavalier !
That's a new and interesting look at flow technique.
Great video with easy to understand information!
You're the man, Louie! ✌🏻💜❤️💕
Great language..! Inspirational.. thank you!
Great eye opener, thanks.
I studied psychology and was particularly interested in sport and performance psychology. ‘Flow’ is such a salient concept. I love dropping into flow. Music is one beautiful vehicle for getting into the “flow” of life/the universe.
Outstanding discussion on this topic….I’ve always had an issue with this very subject. Thanks Louie 👍👍😁
Absolutely fantastic lesson, Louie. 👏
Thanks! 😃
Great to listen too a master of his instrument
Thanks!
You made great points, and I think your toms sound really good! The whole kit sounds awesome, but those toms sound next level!
Thanks! These maple gum shells are killer.
👍. rarely do I ever see a good informative drum video.. most just talk & don't say anything.. this was a good video. I actually got something from it. 👍
Great!
Thank you this the exact topic was what I needed to clear a thirty year plateau
Great video, thank you!
Drummers who specialize in solos are a rare breed actually. Its a niche' that not every drummer has (speaking from my own experiences as well) just because u can nail down a deep pocket groove ,doesn't necessarily mean u can laterally move into a solo section and keep the same feel going. Its definitely a different animal.
I suck at solos and really appreciate the info in this video lesson
As someone who has been playing for decades, but isnt particularly good, this is brilliant.
The concept of musical mileage by going deep and excelling with some basic stickings and musical fundamentals is (for me, as a very player) kind of revolutionary. Initially I had a bit of an egoic reaction to some of the things you were saying, but within a few seconds I was thinking 'yep, I dont really do that and haven't worked on that anywhere near enough'
Subscribed!
Glad you liked it!
Good content, but what really got my attention is how great your drums sound! Do you have a video on how you tune them and mic them?
THANK YOU for simplifying this. I'm always watching other drummers and thinking how inadequate my own playing is, but one easy starting point is making sure my ghost notes are quieter. (In my gut, I know this already, but do I do it? Meh! Sometimes.) This has encouraged me to run downstairs and try some ideas.
Glad it was helpful!
Love the toms😊
Awesome man 👏🏼
IMHO, one way to get into the 'flow feel' is to first master Stick Control #33, RLRR LRRL (reverse for LH lead) and then spread it around the set. The second L (R) can become an accented (rim shot) 2/4. As with paradiddles in general, other accents can be incorporated.
Best tuned kit ever!
Both STP and Incubus are great examples of playing something simply yet beautifully and exciting.
Charlie Watts is a fine example of "groove" and beautiful and unusual fills. 😎
Great video, really helpful and informative, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I LOVE IT LOUIE 👍👀
Nice work ....Keep it up...Cheers
Great points here. Love this
Thanks!
New drummer here. You are so understandable! I will be spending more time here. Thanks!
Thanks!