Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce - a Half Price Quadrifoglio ? | 4K
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- Is the Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce really a half price Giulia Quadrifoglio ? I still think it is one of the best looking saloon cars on sale today and has aged so well. I love the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio but they are expensive and have high running costs. Can to much cheaper Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce deliver a similar driving experience and a much smaller bidget ?
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Ace review….but the Veloce 0-60 is just under 6 seconds, 5.7 to 5.9…it’s the quad that is 3.9 seconds.
The Q4 version is slightly quicker, at 5.4 seconds 0-60.
As per Alfa it's 5.1 sec for the Q4
And 0-100 on tuned veloces Q4 can do around 4.5 sec and Q2 around 5.2
Yep, I have a lightly tuned Q4 ti sport (2020 equivalent trim to veloce) and 0-60 is between 4.7-4.9 secs
Yup, my thought, too.
I've owned my Giulia Veloce for 3 1/2 years & has been 100% reliable. Mine is in Stromboli Grey with red interior & calipers, I get complements all of the time, especially when I'm filling up fuel. You won't get that driving a dull default Audi or BMW, driving an Alfa makes you feel a million dollars but you will have to drive one to experience it.
My 2017 'Super' currently has electrical gremlins since autumn. New battery, cleaned up battery fuse unit contacts, repaired/modded hvac vent but still plays up when out in the rain. Still in love with it tho :)
Alphas get bad press in the same way that people believe German cars are far superior than all other cars, which is completely untrue.
I've had the same experiences since owning this car. I regularly receive compliments. Often even from Porsche and Mercedes drivers. I have mine in Blu Misano with red calipers! Same rims as in the video.
Nice 👌
Currently own a Guiletta sprint speciale & am looking at the Veloce as a replacement. Will be my 3rd Alfa, I've had zero mechanical or electrical problems on my last 2 (just the usual wear & tear stuff) but recommend using Michelin pilot sport 4's on them ( Much better than the Pirelli) & in the winter Michelin all seasons, you can just drive & not worry about conditions.
I live in yorkshire & during a cold snap recently overtook dozens of 4x4's clogging the roads on summer tyres sliding around in the snow like beached whales (But it's a 4x4! thefore better!) Use the right tyre is my advice.
At the end of the day it’s an Alfa Romeo! They always put a smile on your face
I'd love one of these, had a run out 155 TS in Champagne Silver and a 156 2.0 TS in Alfa red when they first came out, tele dial wheels and the works, felt fragile but wonderful to drive and made you feel great. Quad is 3.9 secs to 60, Veloce is 5.5 but that's rapid enough!
I’ve run Giulia Veloces for the last 5 years and have been absolutely delighted with them. The look, the feel and the performance are perfect, and all you really need for UK roads. My current Veloce Ti also has most of the nice bits of trim from the Quadrifoglio too 👍
Great to hear!
I have a Quadrifoglio absolutely love it, there isn’t a car out there to match it
Giulia 280hp is a brilliant car -for doing lots of miles SUPERB. I now own a Quadrifoglio which is UNBELIEVABLE but best for more 'special occasions' - the 280 is a stupendous 'daily'. If anyone is thinking about it - DO IT!!!
I got an Estrema a little over a year ago and fell in love with the looks and driving dynamics. However, after a few months I found myself imagining what that sublime chassis tuning and steering would feel like with 500 hp, and what that engine would sound like under acceleration vs the 2.0T, which, while a great engine, does sound a little like a rental car.
So just 12 months later I am taking delivery of a 2024 Giulia QV Carbonio Edition and could not be more excited.
Great review. My MY2020 mid-life upgrade Veloce in Misano Blue, yellow callipers, I've loved it since I bought it new (after a 2019 Giulia 200bhp supersport and a 2018 Giulietta SuperSport). Have never had a reliability issue with any of them, simply no probs. Have taken Veloce from Drogheda Ireland to Nice France and back, it never missed a beat. The Veloce makes me smile every time I drive, its potent enough for everyday, 0-100 km in 5.7, 400 nm of lovely creamy torque, brilliant steering and seats. The aluminium paddles, a work of wonder - they are fabulous, the positive "click" on action and gear-change speed from the ZF8 is phenomenal. Cabin quality very good/solid, I dont care if its (perfectly acceptable) tech is not up there with my wife's 2022 BMW coupe, its a driver's car not a computer. More involving, more real than the BMW which is more clinical. And people want to talk about it, you dont get aggression from other drivers. And Alfa drivers wave at each other, we know we made the right choice, but we're rare enough to acknowledge each other. Go try one, no way will you be disappointed. I'm keeping mine.....
Bellissima 🤩 It's aged so well. Sometimes you can miss a Quadrifoglio on the road. I wish the Veloce did do 0-60 in 3.6s - petrolheads would be lining up round the block. 5.7 is no slouch though.
I absolutely love my MY 23 Veloce. Best daily driving car I have owned. Agree with all of your comments, Alfa need some love and respect for producing what will surely become a classic.
The thinking man's choice, the Veloce all day long! I love seeing the twisty road warning signs when driving mine (MY21 Volc black met/mica with red interior, petal alloys). It's a fun, sporting, beautifully balanced saloon with almost 2 personalities. Good motorway car as well. Dealership network a little thin on the ground but apart from that a great ownership experience. Very good review that says it all really. Forget the boring looking German stuff and buy a car with real road presence and respect from true petrolheads. Saving for a Quad. But Veloce is a wonderful 'in route' to the world of, what is, the truly historic brand of Alfa Romeo! Once again, a great review, thank you...
Love my 2022 Veloce, wonderful handling, styling, comfort and…reliability too. Zero issues in a year and a half and 17,000 miles. It does receive a lot of attention, helped by the Misano Blue paint and the 19” teledial alloy wheels. I have got 0-60 in 5.4 in my own car, they do have a momentary hesitation from a dead stop when accelerating, compared to my old Camaro that used to strain against the brakes until unleashed.
Definitely a fair bit of turbo lag, part of the charm though.
Nothing a mild tune and an exhaust upgrade won't solve! Drove Alfas in the nineties. Lots of issues but oh my days was it fun!!
get Giulia then, honestly, what r u waiting for....it is last fun car and honestly quite reliable car around, but if u have reliable and good mechanic, even for normal service... last time i had problems only with guys in service guy broke pipe on my engine.... thats a disaster....
Oh my God what a car 2.0 200 or 280 hp…. 8gear auto, sport seats …. What a besuty
I leased a Veloce as a 40th birthday treat to myself. Misano blue , yellow callipers and 19" Dark hole alloys. Most people I met thought it was a Quadrifoglio . I loved it and miss it very much.
Great vid … but you’ve GOT to correct that 0-60 mistake! What a clanger! 😂
My bad
Lol I just just gonna say you'd need 280bhp in an atom to do that time
2017 Veloce owner from new , 44K miles later and love the car more than ever. No reliability issues whatsoever and the car is actually £10,000 more expensive than when I bought it. It’s a quick car when driving in dynamic mode manually, and handles well on any road. So underrated.
Great 👍
Love Alfa’s , everyone has to own an Alfa in their life time
Had two 156 , and 164 both utter reliable
I love this car , at last a great review on my a proper car , not a electric car in sight thank god , Fantastic
Thanks Pete for a brilliant review
Best looking car around. Especially in Alfa red. 2.0 litres with 280HP is plenty for for me and I suspect most people.
I prefer my 505 horsepower Quadrifoglio,but the TI is pretty good also
Just completed a 10k road trip to Tasmania from Perth,Western Australia, with no issues. I can't think of any car I'd sooner of taken
Cool 😎
I have a 4C and a Stelvio. I completely understand what you mean when you say the Quad tries to kill you. It's the same with the 4C. If you're not paying complete attention, it will try to throw you into the woods. The Stelvio is a joy! We take it everywhere and anywhere. Alpha Love.
I think you will find 0-62 is about 5.7 secs for the Veloce.
5,1 but yeah. Not sub 4.
@@Konszky 5.2 Q4, UK has only Q2 so 5.7.... is why....
You summed it up nicely:
Head = Veloce
Heart = Quadrifoglio
An excellent compromise would be a Veloce Ti
Beautiful car best in class this engine is all you need, a car that stands out from the mass of blobs and suvs.
Great review. As a previous Alfa owner over 34 continuous years only ended by health you have raised my expectations of one last Alfa before I go. Thanks 🙏
Don’t hesitate, you know you want to… 😉 So much fun to drive! 😆
Best looking saloon by far.
0-60 is what?
@@caymanblack9567 0-62 is supposed to be 5.7s. Mine is remapped by Celtic Tuning to 324hp and getting mid 5s.
I run a more humble 2018 Giulia Diesel. The car has now covered 121k, it’s taking the miles well, very happy with it.
Nice 👌
I have a Stelvio Veloce in Alfa Red with those wheels and absolutely love it. My local Alfa dealer is excellent up in North Yorkshire👍🏼
Nice 👌
Finally, a motor reviewer who really gets it! My 2018 Veloce Q4 is still the best total package on the market. I mounted a Ragazzon catback exhaust so it gives me a few more horses and a better soundtrack. I´m never selling it.
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Nice car but the best total package is my 18 Monte Carlo blue Quadrifoglio,..takes a great car and makes it Amazing...
@@frankbasile3662 I´d love a QV but I wouldn´t swap my Veloce for it. As I live in Norway, the Q4 makes it the ideal car. On average through a year, I can drive faster that you.
@@Konszky With Blizzak snow tires it handles New York Winters must fine,..While awd is nice addition,..Still think the Quad would win With right tires even in the snow
@@frankbasile3662 I tell you what. I'll put on good snow tires and you do too, then we go out in the mountains together 😉
First 10 seconds in. 5 hole alloys with red paint. It a gorgeous looking car.
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Hello Peter. A fine car that not enough people buy as they stay with ugly BMW’s which these days,are probably no more reliable than the Alfa. My cousin had a Green Cloverleaf 33 for any years and did over 100,000 miles, no troubles of any sort and even on the Somerset levels with Winter mud, it didn’t even rust! An Alfa is a car we all should buy and never forget..it might be brave and it might not be perfect but it has something else….it has excitement and inspiration….a little like spending a night out with a young Gina Lollobrigida ….a German librarian might be safer but you would always remember Gina! Stay safe…keep building!😀😀😀😀😀Richard.
Great review. I had a Giulia Q4 for the first 2 years they were in the US. Did many roadtrips. Such an amazing driving car!
Forza Alfa Romeo 💯🇮🇹💓🍀 4ever Alfista
Fab Review Mr. Petrol Ped, Such A Stunning Car ... 👍👍👍
Many thanks
I can just 200% agree with you enthusiasm ! I'm owning my 2nd Giulia Véloce since 2017, a very rare one in VERDE VISCONTI. An amazing daily driving car who brings a lots of fun and a daily pleasure just to look at it. I'm not already sur if my next car will be my 3rd venice or a QV, anyway both decisions aren't a mistake!
Ah this takes me back (late 60's) to a first encounter with Alfa's, the first being a test ride in an Alfa Guilia Sprint GT ? Veloce. Felt really impressive in twisty roads. My father was deciding what was to replace his lease car at the time. The old Cooper S was his best toy about then. Once again thank you for showing us this too. Two friends had Alfetta's in the 70's they were nice as well. Cheers
Great honest review, Veloce is by far the best option for an every day drive. But every morning when you wake-up and look out of the window at your purchase, wouldn’t always think…..should have spent the extra 35 to 40 grand and bought the Quadrifoglio….
I've owned a 2017 200hp petrol 'Super' Giulia for just over a year. In autumn it developed electrical issues (dash lights). Forums pointed to failing battery so I got a new one. Still problematic so currently looking into water ingress via hvac system which I've done some work on (no joy so far). Despite all this headache, I still love it. All the clichés are valid here, sublime handling, sharp steering and a constant smile on my face. That could be in part to the stage 2 remap from Celtic Tuning though :) (324hp now) Guessing low to mid 5s for the 0-60 run.
I take it you're getting wet carpets in the footwells? Check and clear the AC drain, it's a small gaiter/boot with a tiny short tube that sits above the gearbox. A pain to get to and the easiest way is car up on a lift and slightly lower the gearbox to improve access. Good luck!
@@stevehaydenakajagman hi, thanks for that. I did see a TH-cam video where a guy dropped his gearbox a couple of inches to get to it. I only get the dashboard lights issue after rain. Car can behave for several days if weather been dry.
another great review Ped, keep them coming....
Will do 👍
Your vid has landed on a dilemma day for me I’ve had a Quad for 18 months now & love it but I’m having major problems my insurance premiums on the car unfortunately.
So I’m thinking of changing down to a Veloce as I am also starting to do more miles I love my Quad & you’re right the dealer networks are crap however if I am forced to do so am I going to miss it this vlog however has made me a little more confident if I am to down grade.
Why are insurers in UK so bad now the amount of stress they cause you I’m a 57 yo man clean license & full no claims it’s disgusting what they want to charge you &!also so many demands garaged limited mileage etc🤬
My insurance was quoting 5k a year for the quad which put me right off it, so bought the 280hp stelvio in misano blue which has been brilliant
@@dinan4459 yes it’s crazy how can that be justified god forbid you would want to buy a Ferrari or Lamborghini all I can think is there’s a lot of uninsured motors on the road in UK at the moment due to these crazy insurance premiums.
Glad to hear you are enjoying your Stelvio .
I have a 2021 Veloce TI in blu annodizatto and will not swap it for any other salon. This version was even more "Quadrifogliozided" with spoiler and more other bits. Even my wife loves it! I use it daily as a long runner (100 miles/day) and it does 30 mpg. Excellent and comfortable on motorway, fun on the twisties and with a good sound engine for a 2.0 turbo. Shame Stellantis is electrifying Alfa. Excellent review from you both!!!! Keep up the good work!!!!
Beautiful cars , love the new signature headlights too , enhance the already great stance , look in the mirror "oh whats that" its Ped in the alfa again 😃
Great review Pedro. Thanks
Thanks for the review PP! Perfect timing, as have whittled down my extensive shortlist to one of these! Amazing buys at three years old!
Glad to help!
@@PetrolPed one question... Taking styling out of the equation, which do you think is more fun on an open road, the Alfa Veloce or Golf R??
Agreed, seen these on forecourts at 3.5 years old for under 30k.
Look a lot of car for the money.
On my shortlist.
@@paulmussett94 in March I bought one 2yrs 4 months old with 17000 miles for £27500 with 12 month's warranty 👏
Currently thinking about a change and one of these is on the list to try…… great timing and a great review…. thanks 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice video!! Excellent review! The Giulia is still, in my opinion, the best saloon in the market now. But seriously, if you can afford a Quad, you will go for a Quad, even if the Veloce comes very close
Nice video again, Pete.
This is my ideal saloon
Its not trying too hard, it doesn't have to, its Italian
I had a Veloce which I tuned and added a Remus exhaust and I loved it and was very pleased that I had an 80% QV but I eventually had to scratch the itch and bought a QV. I recently drove a mates Veloce that is tuned and although “rapid” it’s more like 60% of a QV on the boil. The sensory experience of the QV is next level.
Both cars totally reliable and a joy to own.
The dealer network is woeful.
Nice 👌
2018 MY Giulia Quad and 2023 Tonale Veloce. The latter, fine daily driver, the former weekend car. Works well for an Alfista family over 50 years and some 9 Alfa Romeo vehicles.
The Giulia Veloce is a good car. Noone will be let down driving one of these fine examples from the Milanese marque.
I also got a 2018 Guilia Quadrifoglio,..Just got it delivered from Miami to New York last month.The car is a Beast,Superb road feel and handling with such robust Turbo power. Always puts a smile on my face Ive got two Lincoln LS V8s ,one a sport the other LSE edition.280 horsepower from the 32 valve V8 .,Used for everyday driving ,but only used them once as the Quad is too much fun,.
Great review! I watched the entire video with a smile on my dial for the whole duration (I think this is the obligatory Alfa grin that everyone who has had the pleasure of driving an Alfa can’t help) 😉 Watch other Giulia reviews and every reviewer has one! I’m looking forward to collecting my new 2024 Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce in Vesuvio Grey from the dealership next week 🙌🏼 Can’t wait! 😆
Hi Pete. I’ve got a specific dog related question please. I’ve got a 3 year old border terrier and she just pants like mad in my newly acquired I20N. I’ve also driven a Veloce. Loved it. Thought it could be a bit fruitier engine noise wise but maybe a better pup/low frequency noise option. Thanks, as ever .
Forge Motorsport now offer an induction kit for this engine and it does give the engine some extra bark and character.
Great review, on a super car I love them.
Ive just purchased my second 280 stelvio, gone from Misano Blue Veloce to Montreal Green Tributo. I think the 2 litre is perfect for uk roads. Fills you with confidence & eggs you on in D mode. Always suprises me with the performance, the Q4 really makes it unbeatable in its class.
Great video as always but I wish you'd review the car info system good or bad rather than the iPhone. I use CarPlay as well but sometimes I just jump in the car and hit favorites in the Sat Nav to get me home on the vehicle. Just my opinion. I'm staying in a hotel just round the corner from Alpine F1 team base just South of Paris this week. Keep up the good work.
Your analogy is probably bang on do you buy the ST or RS the S3 or RS3, Quadrifoglio or Veloce. I would love the RS, RS3 & Quadrifoglio but monthly's, Insurance & fuel usually put a stop to the heart & the head wins unless of course its a Mini and I did own the full fat Mini Hatch JCW with the Pro Performance exhaust but those days are over and my options are now whether I buy an S, SE or HSE and in that respect I always feel top of the range is best for residuals. I am glad you plumped for Red as the colour it certainly stands out. I have not driven an Alfa but I assume it gives you that certain feeling you get from iconic cars when you get behind the wheel of them close the door and drive. To sum up in this case I think it would have to be the V6 for me as I love the soundtrack of a V6 so the head would be over ruled.
Yes, you got the soul of the thing. A car with a soul.
Some years ago, while being a disenchanted owner of a Series 3 2 liter of 2016, I had a contact with the Veloce equivalent. What a joy.
My wife won: we bought the very good CX-5.
But I failed to get the soul.
I love mine. Fast enough on normal roads and acceleration for overtakes is lightning.
A superb car. I ran a veloce for 18 months, 24,000 miles, several European road trips, only one quality issue, but resolved relatively quickly by the dealer. Would have another without question.
Great to hear 👍
Ran a 159 as a company car, still a great looking car, for me its still better looking than the Giulia. Did just over 100k miles in 3 years and never put a foot wrong, very reliable but just a little too heavy on the front. It would chew through front tyres in around 12k miles. I would have snother in a heartbeat.
Totally agree with your assessment. I've had mine now for 5 years now and I absolutely love it. Fortunilty here in CT isn the US we have a great dealer. Only issue was a small leak in the radiator and it was fixed under warranty, even though I was 6 months over the time limit. When I bought mine there were two identical cars in the showroom, one white with black interior QV with carbon roof and the other was 2 liter Q4 with with carbon package...witch was the same carbon on the QV.. However I happen to love sunroofs and prefer Q4 for our winters months here in New England. I really had a hard time being practical.....as that sound of that 6 is so orgasmic! It's the price you pay for trying to be an adult!
Got the misano blue stelvio with 280hp last week absolutely beastly handing and power is well enough for me in london roads shame everything is going to 20mph nowadays
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If you test drive a QF you'll never want a Veloce. Been there done that but my QF was £63k in 2018. Best option now is 2nd hand and a specialist on speed dial 😂
Love my recently acquired 18 Monte Carlo Blue Quadrifoglio,..the car is a Beast with truly sublime handling and steering feel,..Had it about a month and havent touched my other cars as i enjoyed it so much..
I'm biased - former Alfa owner (156 V6), Pete. What a thing of automotive beauty! Cue "Gentleman's Crisis" in the pants! Veloce works, enough power for UK roads and looks to die for.
😂😂😂
Nice looking car and very nicely reviewed.
Thanks! 👍
I agree with the general sentiments here. It is a lovely car and worth every penny.
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This is a brilliant review. Spot-on with most points. I’ve owned over a Veloce since2020 and It’s important to understand that the dealer network in the south-east of England sucks big time. I’ve had three electrical issues now on the car and the last time it went to the dealer in Maidstone, it took about five or six weeks to do the repair and I was left with a hire car to go on a road trip which I had planned earlier on. when I picked up my car, they had managed to take a chunk of paint out of the door and make a nice scuff on the drivers seat. This car has been cherished but has been way too unreliable. The idea of buying an electric or hybrid Alfa Romeo must be for people who are out of their minds. It’s a superb drivers car when it works, but at the moment the dashboard lights up like a Christmas tree with only 11K miles and a local garage is waiting around three weeks for an ABS sensor which may or may not cure the problem. The engine on this car has been superb but the electrics are a joke. It’s my 8th Alfa Romeo and probably my last.
Great car, i owned a AlfaSud Sprint Veloce 1979 and i loved that car, in fact its one car i regret selling, but if i had the money I would have to buy the quad.
Very nice!
I too had a Sprint Veloce in 1980 - and numerous other Suds but the Sprint Veloce is the one I'd most likely to drive again. Have had Alfa's almost continuously ever since including a '66 Giulia Sprint GT and almost every Busso engined model. 164 QV is another stand out car but have a Giulia Quadrifoglio and it is quite simply the best car money can buy. I write this in Italy having driven here by a circuitous route for the second year and nothing covers the ground more effectively or enjoyably.
Forza Quadrifoglio 🍀💯🇮🇹🏁😊
We have a 22 Veloce that we have had for almost 2 years and we do love driving it. It is a terrific road trip car and in eco mode with the cruise set at 80mph I can do 500 miles to a tank. Driving sporty and it is amazing and one of the most fun cars to drive that I have owned.
Now for the huge negative, mainly here in the states, is their pathetic value they hold and the increasing closing of dealers. So like now when we were thinking about trading it we can't be cause of how negative we are in it due to how much they plummeted lately. Definitely a slightly used is the way to go if you are thinking about getting one. So far we have had no issues with our's and hopefully it stays that way since we are going to have to keep it for a while longer.
Beautiful looking cars. I owned a 147. It was superb to drive. I ve wanted one of these since they were introduced. Perhaps they are affordable for me now, cheers.
The Veloce is a good steer and you can pick one up from £ 15k these days. Mine had a few issues ( electrics ) but drove very well. The engine pulls well especially with the excellent box which is very well calibrated. Handling and steering and particularly the ride are better than the German competitors.
Great review a always fella. Although it's a great car, the truth is that most Alfisti wanted a sportwagon not a saloon. And although the Stelvio goes someway towards this (and is dynamically brilliant) it's just unnecessary for most petrol heads.
Absolutely phenomenal and beautiful car ❤
Glad you like it!
love the enthusiams for the brand, good video. 0-60 in a veloce q2 is 5.7 seconds though, not 3.6!
Yep! The Veloce Q4 is even a bit faster (5,4) than the Veloce Q2 due to its AWD drive. 3,6 is for the Quadrifoglio.
@@Scheltokeeper 👍 yes
My bad 😣
The only Alpha I've driven was my dad's Alfasud, which of course was brilliant as a no frills but all thrills little car! I do like the looks of this, and would be very happy about not drawing attention with pops and bangs! Fun with the subtitles by the way as the Veloce got called a Vache one time! (French for cow).
Hello pal, you’re always a very busy gent. 👍
I have 2020 TI Sport Q4 with virtually every option available, seamless driving car, supple yet firm suspension, chassis is simply superb! Great reliability and with proper tools and software not difficult to maintain for diy. The 2.0 is a quick car, not a brute like my much modified 2011 Mustang GT with Coyote engine, this much more composed for fast road driving., chassis more than makes up for lack of brute power. I'm planning on Squadra tune with exhaust, should get into high 12's, low 13's for 1/4 mile, not bad for the cost of this car!
It's a shame such an awesome beautiful car has such a bad reputation I have a 2018 Q4 sport with 27,000 miles have owned it for 3 years other than changing the oil never had an issue absolutely love it. I pray Alpha does not ruin the driver experience of such an amazing car and go all electric it will kill the soul of the Driving Experience.
Great review. Do with they'd done a Sportwagon version of these. Imagine the looks. Would have been tempted. Not really a fan of the Stelvio.
One drawback to the Giulia Quad is that it doesn't have a sunroof. That's a big deal for me. However, the Stelvio Quad does offer a sunroof. For me here in the Pacific Northwest, light is a premium commodity. ;)
The unreliability crap regarding Alfa needs to stop now!! They had problems in the 80's FFS! Their new cars are just as well built and reliable as any Audi or BMW.
It's only ignorant people who've never owned one who make those comments.
Unfortunately, the what car reliability survey for 2024 says the opposite, and the ratings are taken from customer reviews not media bs.
I agree 👍
@@23Piccolina The experiences of two people do not nullify a massive survey featuring the experiences of tens of thousands of owners.
It's not me who is citing it, it is the biggest motoring journalism company in Europe, who compile their lists from actual owners reliability issues.
Just because you had no problems and one 'mate' had no problems means feck all in the grand scheme of things.
Like it or not, the FACT is, they were listed as 31 out of 32 (second from last) in the 32 UK brands that were in the reliability survey (Cupra were in last place).
The only thing which is BS is your stupid small-minded opinion, that just because you had no problems, that automatically means nobody else did.
Grow up and sod off.
Most reliable to least reliable :
1 Lexus
2 - Toyota
3 - MINI
4 - Suzuki
5 - Mitsubishi
6 - Honda
7 - Hyundai
8 - KIA
9 - Volvo
10 - Tesla
11 - Dacia
12 - BMW
13 - Mazda
14 - Citroen
15 - Fiat
16 - Skoda
17 - Ford
18 - Seat
19 - Nissan
20 - Porsche
21 - Peugeot
22 - VW
23 - Renault
24 - Mercedes
25 - MG
26 - Audi
27 - Subaru
28 - Land Rover
29 - Jaguar
30 - Vauxhall
31 - Alfa Romeo
32 - Cupra
I miss the Veloce Ti I had. It was wonderful. However, it was the third Giulia we had and when it started playing up it was made very clear to me that we weren’t getting another . ☹️
I saw you on Sky yesterday. Go you! 💙👍
What ?!
This is a lovely car. Plenty of performance in the real world.
You are so lucky with low car prices in the UK. You call the Giulia Quadrifoglio expensive with a price in the region of GBP 78,000. In my country (Netherlands) the Giulia Quadrifoglio starts at - and I kid you not - GBP 123,800
Great handling and looks. The biggest issue for me has been parts availability and parts cost. Make sure you have good insurance because the car could be out of action for 6 months plus on even fairly minor accidents.
There is still a lot of stereotypical trash talk about Alfa Romeo, but the Giulia is on a completely different level in terms of quality and can no longer be compared to the old Alfas at all. It doesn't need to hide from the German competition in any way.
I've bought a MY22 Veloce Q4 and it's by far the best car i've ever had. It puts a smile on my face every single day! The 2 liter turbo I4 engine delivers enough power for my daily use and the sporty handling of the car round the whole thing off almost perfectly.
I also criticize the sound of the car and I wish there would be more "life" coming from the exhaust. A little too tame for my taste. I can also confirm that the infotainment system is a bit outdated and laggy, but I can live with that, because you don't buy an Alfa Romeo because of a stupid infotainment system but because of emotions and excellent driving characteristics.
I am a proud German, but BMW, Audi or Mercedes are no longer an option for me in this class. Once Giulia, always Giulia! Bella Macchina stands out of the boring German crowd! 🐉🍀🏁
Love Alfa and one you got❤
I recently test drove one. Really good and certainly on my list when replacing my A4. Only issue I found was side bolster of seat digging into my right thigh. Might have been my driving position but anyone else had this ? Would have to be red with 19” wheels.
I've had three, including the Veloce you test here. I LOVED IT! But reliability was hopeless, breaking down within a month of having it, first time of many and yes the dealer network (I tried two different ones) are absolutely HOPELESS! Would not recommend at all unfortunately. Best looking saloon around though. And deffo has the Italian brio
Sorry to hear that
Used Quads are in the £30k region now. I’d have a used QV over a newer Veloce any day. Yes the Veloce is great fun but it lacks the Kudos and Fizz of the QV. Ed
Only thing the insurances are a scam on the quads got quoted 5k a year
Beautiful car and my favourite bit about this car is the interior it’s not the same plasma TV screens every car maker are going down oh I’m glad ur pronouncing it’s name 😂😂😂
Exactly what I feel about that car. My next car will be a Giulia 2.0!
Like you, I was at Goodwood when the Giulia was launched - the interior soon got muddy, due to the rain.
I bought a Giulia Speciale, which was, and still is, a diesel.
Loved it, but after six years and 23k on the clock, I had to sell it, due to knee and back issues.
Part exchanged it for Tonale Special - petrol- which hasn’t been the enjoyment as the Giulia, but now I have had a knee replacement, everything has settled down, and yes, I regret selling the Giulia.
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Performance-wise, is there any difference between the Veloce and the TI trim? So far as I can tell, the powertrain spec is the same, and the Veloce differences are primarily visual.
I had my Veloce for five years and was the most reliable, with no creaks and aged well.
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Great car. Amazing value used too. Buy a good one and keep it. Nothing will have the character of a petrol Alfa in future. I've owned many, Spider, 75, 156, GTV6. All wonderful
Lovely car but I think I’d still save up for the Quadrifoglio!
Fair enough!
I love Alfas and have owned many. I own one now in fact. However, If you want a high performance saloon with a twin turbo V6, rear wheel drive and an 8 speed transmission but can't afford the top spec Giulia Quad, consider a Kia Stinger. It doesn't look as good but in terms of equipment levels, quality, and reliability it's in another league. It will also annihilate the Giulia Veloce in terms of performance.
I test drove the Kia GTS. It's a gorgeous car and the fit and finish inside is great. I did especially like the look of the dash almost bought it on that alone. Plus it does have some buttons and controls, not all touch screen only. In the end the 6 month/6k mile servicing put me off and I already had a saloon I still liked so ended up with a Boxster instead. But I do keep looking at them on autotrader.
280bhp is enough for most people, but in this era and comparing it to other rivals, it is way behind. Most hot hatches have far more power, and a much better sound.
I really like the shape of these, although it does look a little bit 'meh' compared to the Quad, and even though there are lots of 'modern Alpha's are 100% reliable' comments, unfortunately the what car reliability survey 2024, for cars from the last 5 years, says the opposite.
I really like it, but I would obviously have to compare it to it's rivals, and they all seem a bit more exciting, a bit better quality, a bit faster, and just 'a bit better' in every other way too.
I get mid 30's mpg in my OG M2 average on a run, and up to 40mpg in places, so I think the weight of this Giulia must be a factor in the small engine not being able to efficiently power it along.