2024 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio vs The Cheapest Giulia You Can Buy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 มิ.ย. 2024
- The 2024 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio ($99,840 starting in Canada, $83,465 starting in the US) has seen some changes over the last few years, but how does it stack up against its much cheaper older sibling? The 2018 Giulia Ti ($15-20,000 USD) may only have the four-cylinder engine compared to the Quadrifoglio’s roaring 2.9 L twin-turbo V6, but it offers quite a lot in terms of driving experience and chassis dynamics for the price. Is the older Giulia Ti simply the bargain of the century? Or does the new Quadrifoglio have the features and the allure you simply can’t live without? Thomas and James are excited to spend some time with these two Alfas. We hope you enjoy the episode. And then subscribe, silly.
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And a huge thank you to S.S. Autogroup for allowing us to feature their used Giulia Ti
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I had a 2017 Giulia Ti for three years. It broke down in the first two weeks. They put in a new battery, and downloaded an update. Never had another problem with it.
3 years? Is that even enough to get out of warranty?
4 year/50k mile factory warranty, so no.... Unless he bought it used, like me. @@NathanaelNaused
@@NathanaelNaused You cant read? It says right there its a 2017 model. Its 7 years old. He bought it 3 years ago when the car was 4...
@@AI-qd4vb maybe don't criticize other people's reading abilities man...
@@NathanaelNausedshould've been 8 years of warranty.
“Hybrid F1 tech, apparently made out of anvils..” Mercedes catching strays
…with a pathetic 4 cylinder engines that AMG customers hate…
Deservedly
@@71ala AMG has came up with the most powerful production 4-cyl engines for the past decade (M133 and M139/L) and no other manufacturer has caught up yet. The new C63 is faster than the previous V8 powered C63S. The only people that are mad are those who rely on big engines to compensate for what they lack.
@@deltaracecraftsolutionsi have 4750 reasons to not like the new c63
@@deltaracecraftsolutionsyou're not wrong but if all people cared about was stats and 0-60 you might as well get an ev. i'm willing to bet most amg customers would give up some performance to have the v8 back (me with the new toyota trucks...)
I've had a Giulia QV for 2 years, the interior and tech is absolutely dog water for the price. But the rest of the car is just so satisfying. I sold it to try out the last V8 C class and an Audi RS5. Ended up just buying my old QV back after those both fell short for me.
Also zero issues with it so far, hopefully it stays that way!
No car is perfect, not one. You just have to decide what's priority for you. For me it's looks and chassis dynamics, so the Alfa suits my needs.
@@rlseditionno car perfect but why pay more for something that’s litterally worse than its competitors
@@BMWROYAL Worse, huh? In what way is the Giulia worse than the competition? Certainly not exterior styling or vehicle dynamics. And you're not paying more.
plenty of areas where it's better than competitors. The more subjective areas maybe, but sports cars are subjective/emotional purchases so @@BMWROYAL
Is 500 is hard to beat. 66k for the best trim and you can do 4K in mods to get it over 500hp to the rear tires and sounding amazing.
‘22 TI owner here: I absolutely love this car. Most fun I’ve ever had behind the wheel.
19' Veloce owner here: I second that
2020 sprint (200 bhp), I love every kilometer behind the wheel. No issues for now.
Absolutely love the expensive vs cheap series. Keep it (and the golden intros) up!
Those golden intros are always 10/10.
Now they have your validation & approval it's all TH cares about.
I wonder if you would have wrote your comment if no one else was able to view- it?
Validation points to you full respect.
The upload timing couldn't be better; it's lunchtime at work. Pure bliss.
Same my alfa just broke down and im waiting for a tow truck
@@justharry2190same also as me drove the 155 Touring Car.
Best feeling !!😂
and Mr. Homer Simpson said: “neeeerdddd!!!”😂😂😂
This channel is truly a spiritual successor of Top Gear (CHM era). The banter, chemistry and the enthusiasm are just right. You guys rock.
Don't get carried away you child (in Clarkson's voice)...
@@chrisSVT claasrksonnnnnnn
I'm a Giulia 2017 owner. Got a tune for it for 500 bucks that was just a download that brought it up to 324 hp/500nm also Got the Racemode for 300 bucks (turns traction off) . RWD with lsd was an option and i got it. Also a 600 bucks exhaust will do wonders to the sound. Got 150.000 kms on it and only ever had to do the regular brakepads and tyres. it was a GREAT decision and i love the everlasting fuck out of it.
I also own a Ti. What exhaust do you have for it?
Race mode is a bit more expensive if you have the adaptive suspension. The suspension module needs to be replaced/reprogrammed
what kind of exhaust did you put on it?
Euro :(
0:06 the “SPAGHETI” number plate 😂 you guys go in hard
The "SPAGHETI" number plates surprisingly cool.😂
mamamia
@@kimnotking9742 typical ignorance! It's "mamma mia" (and spaghetti, but he's got an excuse because of not enough letters possible)
@@kimnotking9742 amico mamma mia sono due frasi staccate ;), ti saluta un italiano
Current owner of a Giulia Quadrifoglio since 2020. Prior to i had a Giulia Ti and my wife a stelvio. Phenomenal cars we fell in love. Also happy to report we never had issues with any of them. the "battery" comment they made is true but never effected us. Honeslty more reliable than any german car ive owned previously
True that. German cars have reliability reputations far better than they deserve. Even when I owned Peugeots in the 1980-1990s the only parts which ever failed were made in Germany.
That's awesome to hear... I've played with the idea of a Giulia Quadrifoglio but haven't had the courage to take the plunge.
If I go for one, and it goes bad... I'm blaming you, Sir!
@@paulhancock Just make sure to get one of the newer giulias. The Stelvios wont go wrong but the old Giulias are horrible in terms of reliability
@@arshaq4471 no theyre not... Where are you getting that nonsense?
@paulhancock the shape of the Quadrifoglio is like BMW M5 2008.
Good to know the regular Giulia still carries the spirit of the Quadrifoglio. As long as the joy of driving is there, it seems like a sweet deal for the lesser price.
If you only invested a little of the savings into a few performance mods to add some pep to the regular model, you'd come out miles in front. Maybe a new exhaust and a custom tune and you're done.
My mom has had her Giulia for a few years now from new and has had no issues. My uncle has a Stelvio and his has been solid too. The whole Italian reliability stereotype is kind of getting old now. It just scares people away from owning cars that are an absolute joy
Well said and could'nt agree more!!!
That’s just for Alfa Romeo tho. I believe the Maserati, Ferrari and Fiat engines are still steaming piles of dog shit in terms of reliability
That is true about battery, 98% of the problems are related to bad battery(factory one). Put the battery on a side, and you have pretty reliable car.
Yeah - you can upgrade to an AGM one - everyone uses one from costco. Mine still seems to have a very small drain. I put it on a trickle charger overnight every month or two and have had no issues since i started doing that. I also have an aftermarket wireless android auto/carplay module which might be causing the drain.
@@bandagraphCheck the seat buttons and a radio button at the dealer. My 2021 G QV had a parasitic draw on a faulty seat control module. Replaced under warranty, no issues ever since.
All improved from MY20
I wouldn't put the battery on the side though. Might fall off.
@@mediocreman2 lmao 😂
Once a legend said, "Alfa builds a car to be as good as a car can be....briefly!"
Edit - Omg it crossed 1.4K likes, thanks guys!
Jeremy Clarkson
@@adrianlee2357Jeremy Clarkson?
BS. These Alfas are as reliable as any of its true competitors.
Same guy also said "Youre not a true petrolhead unless youve owned an Alfa Romeo"
@@dienormaxjeanalso JC
Owner of a Giulia Q4 here. Have had no issues and with regular maintenance (which can be pricey it not outrageous) it runs and drives like a dream. Take care of your investments ppl and they will take care
Of u
My 2018 Veloce Q4 came with 7 years warranty and I´ve driven it across Europe, several times without a glitch. I´ve had to fix a rattle in the door, change the battery and the fuel filler lid. As most others had to. All on warranty. These cars are reliable.
The door rattles are real but yeah otherwise reliable
I’m just curious why do you think the used prices for these are so low then? There must be some horror stories out there to warrant the heavy decline in price right? I mean there is literally a 2017 with 55k miles and clean title really close to me for only 15k. Interior is a little dated and lower end than the competitors sure but that’s really cheap
@@Father-klovkoskithe stereotype of unreliability is hurting it more than it should, add in also the fact that cars isnt popular and dealership net isnt as big as for german makers
I own a Ti and can confirm the Ti segment. Such a fun a car for the price point
The Ti and 2006 Alfa Romeo GTV are equally glorious cars.
Honestly, sounds like an equivalent to the M340i - not full-on performance, but fast and fun enough for its price. Never owned an Alfa, but I'm intrigued by Giulia
@@TymaDem it’s probably the closest comparison you can make to it. Now I say it’s the Competitzoné trim level and the Ti is the new base. I would recommend testing a Ti, M350i, S4, and C43 if you looking in to getting an entry sports sedan. Board opinion the Alfa is the best of 4
What's a board option?@@huddystone7994
Had a TI for two weeks now. I am in love with this car.
4 years and 50,000kms driving a 2018 Quad with carbon seats and brakes. Came with 3 years of free servicing and 5 year warranty, but in that time I had not a single issue, warning light or problem. Best and most reliable car I’ve ever owned ❤
You’re going to want to swap to steel brakes or sell the car when the time comes to replace them
Same.
There doesn't come a time to replace the CCBs. That's the whole point of them.@@kilroywashere9678
@@kilroywashere9678u almost never have to change the disks
@@kilroywashere9678If you're not on the track all the time brake discs last over 100,000 miles.
As a owner of a heavily modified 2.0 with 430hp, im so Happy that this video shows the strenght of the 2.0. its an Amazing handling car and with the right Upgrades, youve got a weapon!
Damn!
How are you getting 430hp?? Hybrid turbo?
@@sicilianstyle4517 yes, modified camshafts, turbo, downpipe, intake etc
@@margaronedario9003you got instagram? Or any type of content of it, I’m highly interested I also own a 2.0
Hai aperto il motore per reggere quei cavalli?
MY19 (non-opf) Quadrifoglio 1st owner with 40k km who never had any issues with the car. More reliable than many of the BMW 3 & 5 series I had . Dynamically the best sport sedan in the market, still after over 8 years of age.
Picked up a ‘24 QV Carbonio trim (red leather, gold calipers, on Rosso GTA) on June 1. What an incredible car. I am definitely keeping it forever, there won’t be another ICE sedan that drives like this ever again.
Great choose. Definitely a keeper.
I read that as a Carbonara trim lmao
Enjoy the drive!
what a choice, enjoy the hell out of that!
A wise man also said “you’re not a true petrolhead until you own an Alfa Romeo” and I can tell you every second of driving mine has been pure enjoyment!
Homie’s talking about getting a Quadrifoglio. I’m talking about getting the other. The universe listened. Thank you. 🙏🏼
QV 2021 owner here. Every person who has driven my car absolutely loves it. Whether they are an enthusiast driving in race mode or an aunty driving in normal mode.
Can I drive your QV??🤣 never got the chance to at the dealership before leaving with my 2.0. Looking to get one eventually
God that car is breathtakingly beautiful
7:24 this whole scene was gold, made me grin and say "idiots" out loud, which is about the best reaction possible
Thats 10/10.
I have a 2020 Ti Sport Q4 Carbon with over 81k miles and it’s been mostly reliable save for the battery issues I can attest to. It’s a dream to drive and brings a smile to my face every time I’m in it.
Thanks for the shoutout, guys. Legends!
The first English speaking channel I've seen that pronounces "Quadrifoglio" perfectly. As an Italian, THANK YOU!!!
I'm guessing that literally everything in that comment was pronounced incorrectly except for "Quadrofoglio".
😊
Correct pronunciation is "Four-leaf clover" right?
È facile!
No, no, no...they didn't use their hands.
I’ve genuinely never heard it pronounced differently than in this video
@@marcob1729people say the g
The battery thing is pretty true, in a lot of cases it does fix the issues, it did for me.
Just a new battery but it's the same type?
Same here. New battery fixed a brake warning and comfort access key issue in our older bmw and many door lock and hatch opening issues with our Mazda.
@@elvistwatty something with the one that came from the factory and its quality, its weird i get it, but it has fixed many issues on the Giulia forum almost so much so that the very first response you get when you have an issue is battery change.
All improved from MY20
I know they are small changes but that quadrifoglio looks so much better. The daytime running lights are so aggressive. Love it.
To anyone interested, AR really got their act together from 2019 and onwards. I’ve had 3 since, over 120,000 miles between them and had never had an issue outside of maintenance.
I agree, great to hear your good experience.
However, still some lingering TSB's including electrical issues, oil & coolant leaks on the 19 all of which are very expensive to fix out of warranty.
My advice is stick with a 2021+ that it still under factory warranty then consider adding the 7yr moparmaxcare warranty. Its around $2,000 which is pretty fair considering the cost to repair these Alfa's. Look at the quotes to replace the oil pump!
I'm 21 and I bought a 2017 Alfa Giulia Ti Q4 at 20 years old. It has 38k on the clock and it is the best car I have ever driven. I appraise cars for a living, so I have been behind the wheel of many different cars, Honda S2Ks, M3s, Merc AMGS, and Corvettes. Out of all of the vehicles I have driven, my Alfa Romeo drives better than them all. I have yet to drive a car with as much steering feel, chassis balance and sheer beauty to drive. I had the opportunity to drive the Quad a year ago from a colleague but I passed it down to preserve my love for mine. Maybe I'm the outlier but I have had no issues with my car. Everything has worked, maintenance has been just like any other car, and I run my car hard. Yes it's a roll of the dice to buy one, but I do not regret purchasing it at all
Giulia Ti Q4 is as good as Alfa Romeo Sprint Speciale.
lol. It doesn’t have any miles on it yet. Good luck!
Alfa lover spotted
Man that sounds awesome! How did you end up apprasing cars for a living, if you don't mind me asking?
@@eight2810 I work at a very big car dealership in the DC area. We have a dedicated appraisal team that does appraisals for trading and selling. We try to buy about 100 cars a month
Haha, that opening, thats me with my Fiat 124. "Behold the joy that is classic car motoring."
Mines in the garage on jacks right now. All the rubber bushings are done. Oil pan and trans pan are both leaking, but she was driving before I parked it. Not sure whether to rebuild the motor or swap it, but anything other than the twin cam seems blasphemous.
I own a 2019 Ti and I’ve put 67K miles on it outside of regular maintenance I’ve never had a problem with this car and it’s very fun to drive
Bought a 1owner and fully serviced 2017 QV 3 months ago with 109k mi, carbon ceramics, carbon buckets and absolutely love it. Had it serviced recently and given a good bill of health from the Alfa dealer!!! All for 23k US!!!
Legend 😲
Hey, CONGRATULATIONS HARRISON! That's amazing man!
Damn both look amazing in red
The ONLY colour an Alfa should come in.
@@ChaosphereIX Verde Montreal also looks excellent
Well, its Alfa Romeo.
@@XantoS771 true
Misano blue would beg to differ 😅. Both are amazing colors tho! @ChaosphereIX
On my second 2.0 Ti Sport Q4 (essentially the same spec as the current Veloce) First was a lease to test the waters. It's incredibly fun and has been trouble free. Thought about a Quad but realized it was overkill for me and used the extra cash to fund my incurable motorcycle addiction.
For those who lament a subpar-but-functional backup camera and a clunky-but-okay infotainment system, you get an excellent double-wishbone/multi-link indy suspension, great ride quality, and increased everyday giggles.
This was the best recommended to watch truly, this is the only car channel I can watch simply because to me it feels so much above the competition (my subjective opinion). A review for a car I was thinking about buying truly appreciated
The Giulia Ti Sport I owned for five years and 50k miles was way more reliable and way sweeter to drive than all our German cars. Wish I never sold it. Just got a new M3P and it's great, but it ain't a Giulia.
I have a ‘19 QV and never had an issue. Love my car.
Between the "Harrison extender" and the opening skit I laughed so hard I choked. This is the best car show on You Tube.
Bought a 2023 Giulia QV last year. I've owned a Mustang, and a Corvette and this car is the best I've ever owned or driven. I like the classic retro feel of the interior over the screen based interior on the M3.
I can't lie, I have total admiration (and sympathy) for anyone who buys a Giulia Quadrifoglio over the equivalent Audi, Merc or BMW. I respect it!
The new C63 AMG is worse. Heavily boosted 4 cylinder engine and a PHEV drivetrain that makes the car unnecessarily heavy. So I can see why someone would pick this over the new C63. Not the old one though, many still love the sound of a good and powerful V8.
Not really a car fan but not missing one episode of this telenovela since I discovered the channel! So well put together!
Thank you for the great review. I had a model year 2022 Giulia Veloce which I loved but got the option to buy a model year 2022 Quadrifoglio for a great price, and am very pleased I took the plunge. The Quadrifoglio is an amazing car, and is a fantastic all rounder. If you can afford a Quad and are hesitating about a purchase, just go ahead and buy it. You won't be disappointed. I personally prefer the old style headlights and non-digital dashboard. I believe in the UK there has been a recall for the digital dashboard rattling, and the fix is to add extra padding.
Folks I’ve owned a 2018 Giulia Quadrifoglio for five years and have had no issues. It’s a riot to pilot and I consider reliability bulletproof. Car gets all recommended factory service plus two oil changes annually regardless of miles driven. Understanding how this engine was built and works is key to anticipating potential issues and addressing them proactively. It’s been more reliable than our late model year Toyotas.
i got a new quad in september 2022 and it has been bomb proof apart from when the e brake decided to stop working in heavy traffic when i pulled on the button and put it in neutral , turned it off waited a minute and it was fine . alfa dealer couldn't find anything wrong. the AC is also kind of shit in the summer but i love it i cant see myself driving anything else for a long time
There are only two flaws that I find with the giulia (any model). And that is the steering angle is too wide and the AC is so weak. Change those and the car will be perfect. I still wouldn't trade mine in for anything except for a quad
What does steering angle being too wide mean @@alex1695lopez?
@@alex1695lopez I have a 2018 Giulia and find the AC to gets blistering cold. I came from a 2012 Chevy Cruze so maybe that's why lol.
Picked up a new quad over a month ago, so can’t say much about reliability yet, but boy it’s a blast to drive! 🌶️🌶️🌶️ Thanks for the excellent review guys! 🍀
My mom still has her 2018 Giulia Veloce (Ti for you guys) that she got new. Only real breakdown was the can bus electronics going a bit haywire this year after 6 years of trouble free driving. And it was just a single connector shaken a bit loose on the amplifier, just needed to be plugged back in and it didn't stop the car from firing up and driving just fine. The way the thing dances in the corners is just fucking beautiful, going on a trip to the other side of europe and getting to push it on twisty italian roads was somewhat of a religious experience, you could tell that's what it was made for. The quickest steering this side of a Ferrari just makes pointing it into a corner so fun. The Q4 AWD is great. The gearbox is amazing and has that same satisfying kick in the back on upshift in dynamic mode as in the QV. The 4 cylinder may not be the best engine, but it's got a bit of character, the quirky very-turbo way it makes power, the fact it's slightly rough on idle, not too much to be annoying, but just enough to let you know there's something alive under the hood waiting to be used, compared to all the perfectly smooth and silent german vacuum cleaner 4 cylinders out there. I'm in love with the car and just can't seem to drive it calmly every time I get behind the wheel. It just gives you so much confidence to push on right from the jump, it's incredible.
The lack of ability to turn TC off never bothered me that much, dynamic mode gives you grip in the dry and let's you have just the right amount of fun when it's particularly rainy (or even more when it's snowy). And while it's not the most tech focused, it still has all the stuff you want and need in a good daily. Can't say enough good things about it.
My dad had an Alfa Spyder 2000 square back similar to seen in the intro. He drove that thing to work and me to school in it. Pure, and I mean pure bliss when it worked. I miss you pops 💖
I have a 2019 Giulia Quadrifoglio NRING edition I have had since new. I absolutely LOVE IT!!!
I knew I'd find you in the comments!
I’ll eat it with my new Mustang , what’s up 😂
@@cormaro13 the only thing you are eating is Kyle who is filming everyone leave cars and coffee 😂
@@doadea 😂 what’s up , line it up boy , I’ll make you taste some American lunch lol
@@cormaro13 Till you get to a turn lmao
I owned a 2019 for 3 years. The oil pump went out at 35k miles and the evap system was constantly throwing codes....... I plan on buying another one next year. They're so much fun to drive and look incredible.
All much improved from MY20
That mimicking scene was gold and more people need to be talking about it
I had a Giulia Veloce for 4 years, it was great. I had it mapped to 340BHP and it was awesome fun. I traded it in and got a Stelvio QV, never looked back. That Ferarri engine is a beast!
The more experience i get with driving, the more i realise it's not the power that is most important. How often do we stomp on the throttle? and besides, if you want to stomp on the throttle, the lower powered car, you get to enjoy it longer. What matters is the chassis, steering and how you live with it. in that case, the cheaper less powerful one is PLENTY fast enough, but essentially the same 98% of the time.
I agree. I have learned that suspension, tires, brakes, and seats are just as important as displacement.
I recently got a MKZ, 2016 with the 3.7 naturally asperated v6. It is super fun to drive in sport mode on a local curvy road, however it is fwd and confidence on corners is much lower than the 2020 challenger i had. The seats on the mkz arent bolstered well and you slide when really cornering. You can tell that it isnt a sports car when pushing it. But the engine is really good and the only time it lacks is 0-60 straight line. It has all the power needed for the curvy road. I put new brakes on it and the mkz stops on a dime, almost too well. Its about same weight as the challenger but stops so much quicker now. Point is, speed wise i couldnt go much faster in the challenger on the curvy road, but it was easier in the challenger because of the suspension.
That’s why the answer is always Miata.
@@neilgendzwill3260Miata toy and Giulia Daily 👌
@@neilgendzwill3260 Not really. Stock Miata's have soft springs that handle like wallowy poop.
I love Miata's but they require suspension modifications to be competent.
I just purchased a CPO Veloce for all the reasons you guys stated in the video. Thanks for the excellent review
I currently own a 1988 Milano Gold Automatic! 200,638 miles currently, runs and drives! Just spent $3500 on all around new brakes. This is my 15th Alfa! Love Throttle House! Great video as always!
my absolute favorite thing about the quadrifoglio is the absolute THUNDERCLAP you get on WOT upshifts, especially the 1-2 and 2-3 upshifts. It actually dropped my jaw the first time I test drove one. The new headlights aren't my favorite thing in the world and i really thought the analog gauges were amazing- the digital cluster is FINE, but unnecessary. The small screen in between the dials did everything you needed it to.
These do genuinely drive amazingly well, though. My parents recently replaced our family van (a 2005 odyssey) with a Stelvio Ti Sport and got my brother a Giulia Ti Sport. They're both incredible. The steering is absolutely telepathic, and the Stelvio is actually pretty fun to drive. Although the 2.0 isn't the most inspiring engine to use with the paddles, still very fun cars to drive and have been pretty great to own - although after changing the oil on both yesterday, I'm finding out they have no built-in way to reset the maintenance light and some people are seeing dealers charging $100 to do that. That's one thing I love about my RS3, that I can reset the service interval right in the MMI.
I have a 2017 TI Q2 with the adaptive dampers and 80K miles. Bought it for $16.5k USD (72k miles) and immediately put a new battery in. Totally reliable for last 8k miles. Recommend the Q2 if you don't need AWD. Way better turning radius than Q4 and limited slip over non-q2
I paid another 2.2k for the mopar maxcare warranty 3yr / 30k miles. I had one small oil leak repair done under warranty - small enough that no oil is on the ground but was diagnosed during an oil change.
The fuel pump thing used to happen to my old spider all the time. The electrical connection to the fuel pump simply wouldn’t hang on and random bumps would leave me on the side of the road working on it.
Anybody arguing against the CCBs is coping. They are incredible.
Totally agree. They are what the brake-by-wire system is best for. In normal driving too, they are excellent.
Have had a 2017 Giulia since 2018 and it’s been amazing. I sorted out the suspension with coilovers and got a stupendous set of brakes and slotted rotors from
EBC. And yes - there is a tune to include race mode. 😉
Please do a new vs used jaguar f type video. i love your channel and humor 👍
I've been asking for this for ages!
Or even an F-Type versus XKR comparison
Also, if it hasn't been done, Vantage V8.
Love the ReDriven shout out.
Had my Veloce 4 years and instead of trading it for anything else I’m keeping it. First time I’ve ever done that. Great car, zero issues.
Ive been wanting this video for YEARSS
Good intro, always good for a laugh😂
I was just looking at videos mentioning common issues and stuff to check before purchase. Then I saw this video just dropped. You guys are awesome.
Google the mopar maxcare warranty from zeigler auto group. You have to basically get a PPI from any jeep / dodge / chrysler dealer for $100-200. If you get a clean bill of health, you can purchase the bumper to bumper warranty for a pretty reasonable price. It made me feel comfortable buying a higher mileage one and driving it hard and often.
Try buying from MY20, better built
Same I also looked up the Redriven video as well very informative. The 2.0t in the car doesn’t seem all that bad either tbh and good transmission with the ZF 8 speed. The only thing that scares me is finding parts and pricing. So if you end up finding any issues please let me know.
Don’t get any Alfa BEFORE MY2020. Afterwards is good
Had a 2018 Ti with over 80000 and tracked it often. No issues. Traded in for a 2022 QV and tracking it constantly with no issues again. Only 15000km though.
my dad has a 2022 Veloce. Might be his favorite car hes ever owned. No issues and it handles like an absolute dream. Breath of fresh air when it feels like few manufacturers care about driving dynamics anymore
Hi owner of two Giulia’s here. The 2019+ are way more reliable than the 17-18 cars. Also you can add race mode to the 2.0L cars rather easily in a few hours or less. The Q2 (rwd) 2.0L cars have a limited slip differential. The sunroof problems were fixed in the facelift cars in 2020. No one I know is willing to trade this car for a 3 series. I disagree about the backseat, I can’t sit behind my driving position and I’m 5’10 like James but I don’t care because nobody sits back there anyway.
What kind of problems have you encountered with the pre 2019 cars?
Funny enough my 2020 TI Sport RWD doesn't have the limited slip differential. I ran the VIN and checked the window sticker, I guess it's not standard.
Hearing 'I'm Thomae and I'm James' before eating my supper is the best feeling ever😂
Throttle House / ReDriven is the crossover I didn't realise I needed!
Finally, my Giulia getting some love. Top down build is one huge reason I chose the Giulia over a 3 series. No issues thus far after two years. Drives so incredibly, and I still look back every time I get out the car. Solid vehicle. Sad to say my last ICE vehicle.
These intros are getting better and better
I literally saw one of these this morning 😮
We bought our 22 Veloce Giulia almost 2 years ago and we have truly loved it. It has been one of the most fun to drive cars we have owned. Sadly though I could never recommend someone buying a new one like we did. Our's is still in great shape, only has 23k miles on it but is worth half of what we owe on it which is crazy. Had I know how bad they really didn't hold their value and how the brand seems to be trying disappear in the states again then we would have never bought it.
I would highly recommend someone getting a slightly used 22-23 Veloce though as the price on them is incredible for what the car is. I have never been in a QV but also know those used are great prices for what they are though the maintenance bill is quite substantial on those from what I hear.
Great job as always guys!
2018 2.0L here. 123k miles and counting. Replaced the battery in year one and it's been a reliable daily. Smiles per mile: absolutely cannot be beat for the price. 100% would buy again.
What a car! I wish the latest germans were half as good as this, instead the M3 is a beaver and the C63 is a toyota hybrid...
Nothing on the Audi RS4/RS5? Probably not the best, but they're largely forgotten.
@@damilolaakanni'cause they're soulless
@@damilolaakanni sorry, i don't consider Audi between the "good to drive" cars, the only one with good weight balance and which does not understeer is the R8 and its production is dismissed (sadly)
Ok real question, HOW MANY oxford button down shirts does James own? Man could start his own line...and then afford the new Quadrifoglio.
Original owner of a 2018 Giulia QV. 60K miles on the clock. ZERO issues with the car. My out of pocket expenses include tires, brakes, and the 10K maintenance intervals. To note, the front pads and rotors were replaced at 59K miles. The original rear pads and rotors are still on the car and do not require replacement. I literally drive this car in Dynamic and Race everyday. When I purchased the car 6 years ago I was the butt of all jokes. I am happy I made the jump and have 6 years of pure driving bliss as my reward. Would do it again in a heartbeat.
Have both a 2021 Giulia Ti Sport and 2020 Stelvio Quadrifoglio and have never had any issues with either since I bought them new (except a rock chipping a windshield on the Giulia). Amazing episode as always. Thanks Throttle House for great work as always!!
My friend is the parts manager at a Ferrari, Maserati, and former Alfa Romeo dealer. He tells me the sunroofs on these break every 40k miles almost without fail and they replace the whole sunroof cassette when that happens 💀
The Quadrifoglio does not have a sunroof to worry about. Easy 😉
Just watched a video from a Toyota mechanic doing the same for a Highlander. Having a hole in the car roof is wrong...
@@minem23 no it isn't. It also depends if people are careless with it. Many work fine for the life of the car.
@@nessuno5403 you are hard at work convincing people these are reliable cars in the comments. One would think you work for AR.
Laugh at the reliability all you want, these cars are the best in their classes
Compared to the Cadillac CT5V Blackwing? You'll have to explain why.
@@damilolaakanni The Giulia is lighter by over 100kg, handles better, has the same 0-60 time (with 150hp less mind you), looks better, is over 20k dollars cheaper, has 150+ liters more of trunk space and more interior space, so it's more practical too.
Oh, and this is more subjective, but I find it to sound better too and have a more pleasant engine
Dynamically, they are. It's arguable for the rest.
This has my personal favourite interior layout. High mounted display, vents below, physical climate control buttons, two cup holders in front of a proper gear selector, and then dials behind that to interact with the display. I like having the screen up high so I can see it, but then you have to stretch to touch it. Dials are awesome
The layout is fine but the screen is way too small (check out the rear camera) and the interior quality and materials are lacking for a car of the price. It's like you're driving a Mazda in there, which I say both as a compliment and an insult.
Wow, just short of 3 million subscribers!
Thomas and James, you guys rock the automotive world!
Much love from Chicago!
I like how James’ chest was blurred out. Good burn, Thomas😂
The intros never fail to get a chortle out of me
call them chortle house
This video came at an insanely specific point in my life and thank you. I'm literally a week away from buying a car and was split between a 2018 Mustang GT Premium and a Giulia Veloce. I was completely split and this video pushed me to the Mustang. It's gonna be a daily and I value things like car charging, android auto, reliability and a decent backup camera.
Or buy after MY20
Picked up a used 18 Q4 sport, had it for 2 years now. Had some electrical glitches, however replacing of the Battery with an Interstate corrected them.
Car has been reliable, and fun. The only other change was replacing the stock 235/45 Bridgestones to 245/40 Michelin AS pilots Zero pressure. The car handles even better after the tire change.
Keep up the fantastic work guys,
THE best looking Alfa Romeo is the Giulia
Current or all time? Because if the latter, I would argue different. Brera, 33 Stradale, 8C...there are many pretty Alfas.
Now I know there's going to be a lot of comments about Alfa's reliability, but from what I heard, they're about as reliable as a BMW now. I know that's not a high bar, but that's better than what they used to be.
Damn, are BMWs now that problematic?
@@xelaander8429 No, they're not. They have been in the top5 reliability wise for the past 5 years. Ignorance does a lot to people who cant keep their stupid mouths shut.
@@xelaander8429 B58 and S58 engines with the ZF transmission is one of the most reliable combos your can purchase in any car right now
You guys are incredible. Please, no matter how wrong he (she/they, etc) gets your breakfast order, don’t punch your associate producer in the face. We need you.
This isn't top gear, the golden trio weren't wokee snowflakes.
So you should be doubly disappointed if that's what you're reaching for.
Sorry SIS! ❄ 🎉
Finally someone compares the QV to the 2.0! I have a 2017 Q4 with the adaptive suspension and LSD. Race mode is easily added by installing the Quadrifoglio DNA selector and just changing a byte in the ECU to enable Race mode. Also thank you for mentioning battery as that is a common problem with the factory battery as they age out they start causing issues. Many of the other common problems have been ironed out in the later model years as well.
Beautiful wheels !
I had a 2018 Ti and it lost battery charge every time the temperatures dipped below 40°F. Very frustrating.
But wow, what a phenomenal driving experience.
All improved from MY20
@@nessuno5403 that's what I hear. Maybe I'll trade in my fuddy duddy CX30 on a MY20+ Giulia in the future. I do miss that car.
I don't miss the $5k bill to change the water pump and timing belt though
@@RaijinTheThunderwhy fuddy duddy?
@@Shmuel_Aqui it needed a timing belt and water pump, parts were on back order for months, shops were backed up for weeks and the dealership wanted $5k for a $2k job while refusing to sell the parts without service.
It was either drive it till it blows up or dip out, so I dipped.
@@RaijinTheThunder sorry, I was asking why is the CX30 fuddy duddy. Reviewers are always praising Mazda but I’ve never driven one
Love the Re:Driven shoutout, those guys are awesome!
You guys are awesome. Love watching your show. Love the way you guys bring humor to your show while reviewing cars. Love it