BMW M4 CSL v Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA: DRAG RACE

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  • It’s time for a Germany vs Italy head-to-head!
    We’ve got Mat lining up in the all-new BMW M4 CSL, and he’s going up against Yianni in the Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA! Both of these cars are super rare, with only 10 of each being sold in the UK! The question is, which is quickest over the quarter-mile?
    Starting with the BMW, it’s powered by a 3-litre twin-turbo straight-six which is good for 550hp and 650Nm of torque. It drives the rear wheels only, and tips the scales at 1,625kg - 100kg less than the standard M4! It’ll set you back a fair bit, though, costing £126,000!
    Then we have the Alfa. It’s housing a 2.9-litre twin-turbo V6 under the bonnet which can produce 540hp and 600Nm. It’s lighter than the BMW, at 1,540kg, but it’s also more expensive, coming in at £150,000! Just like the BMW, it also drives the rear wheels only.
    So the Alfa is down on power, but it’s also lighter! Will that prove decisive? There’s only one way to find out - LET’S RACE!
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  • @carwow
    @carwow  ปีที่แล้ว +803

    Which would you choose? VOTE BELOW!

    • @carwow
      @carwow  ปีที่แล้ว +3678

      VOTE: BMW M4 CSL!

    • @carwow
      @carwow  ปีที่แล้ว +4842

      VOTE: Alfa Giulia GTA!

    • @okithdesilva129
      @okithdesilva129 ปีที่แล้ว +273

      Both cars are insane! But the BMW M4 CSL is my favourite!

    • @DarsheelSethia
      @DarsheelSethia ปีที่แล้ว +152

      BMW

    • @shazad1984
      @shazad1984 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@carwow m4

  • @rohansharma3223
    @rohansharma3223 ปีที่แล้ว +1696

    Finally seeing the iconic duo after a long time.

    • @AFollower0416
      @AFollower0416 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Iconic duo? The giulia ist just a bad copy of the bmw lol

    • @cristianmihai1744
      @cristianmihai1744 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@AFollower0416 you have no idea what alfa means, isn‘t it? Giulia is a 2016 which beat on nurburgring the m4 back then. Gta/m is just a qv tuned ;)

    • @MD-uu5nt
      @MD-uu5nt ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@AFollower0416 bad....that must be why the Giulia won pretty much every comparison with the M3 when it came out...that M4 is hideous.
      BMW have to lie about their horsepower figures to win. Look up videos of the M4 CSL on a Dyno. It makes 605hp and 740nm of torque....it's got way more power than the Giulia. Of course it's going to win.

    • @rohansharma3223
      @rohansharma3223 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@AFollower0416 i was talking about mat and yanny😂

    • @chamaldealwis9
      @chamaldealwis9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@AFollower0416 he's on about matt and yanni, the only iconic car in this race is the CSL

  • @manveerghuman5276
    @manveerghuman5276 ปีที่แล้ว +771

    Two extremely rare cars like this is amazing for a drag race!

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do a drag race between Mia Taylor's Bentley Speed 8 vs Honoka Kousaka's GTR LM NISMO 2015 LMP1, Carwow!

    • @rickybobby7549
      @rickybobby7549 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rare? My Honda civic is rare too then

    • @yan7911
      @yan7911 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@rickybobby7549 m4 csl : 1000 cars produced, giulia gta : 500 cars produced, yes these are rare

    • @sensational6111
      @sensational6111 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they are rare but there is nothing amazing about these two cars

    • @dreadpirate6469
      @dreadpirate6469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yan7911 because even if they produce a million of them, only few numbers will sell

  • @JesusRodriguez-tm8go
    @JesusRodriguez-tm8go ปีที่แล้ว +1551

    Alfa, no doubt.
    It'd be interesting seeing a fast lap of them around a track

    • @alexcepile1420
      @alexcepile1420 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      pretty sure the lighter + more downforce alfa would win

    • @Franc39A6DD
      @Franc39A6DD ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@alexcepile1420 It already has difficulty beating an M3 competition, so an M4 gts, no chance. The Alfa has an older architecture, competing with the BMW F8X. G80 is another world.

    • @alexcepile1420
      @alexcepile1420 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Franc39A6DD any video to back that up?

    • @Franc39A6DD
      @Franc39A6DD ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexcepile1420 th-cam.com/video/LsNWBqAaOHM/w-d-xo.html

    • @alexcepile1420
      @alexcepile1420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Franc39A6DD yep. guess you got q point there.

  • @MrHenk588
    @MrHenk588 ปีที่แล้ว +682

    The Alfa generates way more downforce than the M4, it's a track build spec, not a drag build one

    • @bmwn62
      @bmwn62 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Lmao m4 isn’t drag car

    • @uThuthukani
      @uThuthukani ปีที่แล้ว +36

      If you were talking about the Rolling Race then yess you’re right. But the drag race??
      They both aren’t for drag racing but lap times i think the Alfa would smash the Beemer

    • @Jonas-hh9fu
      @Jonas-hh9fu ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@uThuthukani i dont think so, i think that the bmw would still be faster around a Track. The current 3/4 Series Platform is just incredibly potent in the regular m3/4 Wehre as the Alfa is slowly aging. I hagelt Drive the csl yet but From what i experienced With the m3 competition i dont believe that the Alfa would Beat the csl on Track. Especially in you Consider that the csl is the fastest bmw ever on the nordschleife. I would still take the Alfa though 😂 just to beautiful

    • @kaimelis
      @kaimelis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jonas-hh9fu only a complete dumbass thinks an alfa would be faster around a track than an m bmw, prove me that an ill eat my own chocolate hat.

    • @defqon3193
      @defqon3193 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@uThuthukani M4 csl 7.15 min nurbr and alfa did 7.32 min

  • @propm
    @propm ปีที่แล้ว +1578

    That Alfa just looks sooooo good, I don't really care if it's slower when it looks and sounds so much better.

    • @kamovmil5843
      @kamovmil5843 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      They used the lower specs GTA, they didn't play fair. They were dirty. They should have tested the M4 with the Giulia GTAm which has setup and specs for track like the csl.

    • @jakegargiulo5101
      @jakegargiulo5101 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@kamovmil5843 Yeah it was so weird how much the Alfa lost by. Doesn't make sense.

    • @hassanger8128
      @hassanger8128 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      This M4 looks way better, sexier, and more unique and aggressive.

    • @kamovmil5843
      @kamovmil5843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hassanger8128 bmw is an ugly German box.

    • @eddy_6502
      @eddy_6502 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@hassanger8128 bs

  • @lewissykes99
    @lewissykes99 ปีที่แล้ว +731

    Imagine they started testing cars around a track too 👀 I can see car wow turning into a new top gear/grand tour and I’m here for it

    • @bbkingwasthegreatest711
      @bbkingwasthegreatest711 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Mat and Yanni have the chemistry for it to work

    • @francisbawasanta6310
      @francisbawasanta6310 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I imagine the lighter car and better braking might even out on a course instead of just a straight away... but we may never get that video. 🤨

    • @lewissykes99
      @lewissykes99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@francisbawasanta6310 we can always hope 🤞🏻

    • @lewissykes99
      @lewissykes99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bbkingwasthegreatest711 I know ,I could watch them race around all day

    • @bbkingwasthegreatest711
      @bbkingwasthegreatest711 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@lewissykes99 They need a third person, like a James May maybe that German presenter would be ok, but yes they really should try it, imagine a road trip with them.

  • @marinusikke886
    @marinusikke886 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    I've had different fast cars in my younger days..gti and gte and turbo's...and then i got my first fast tuned Alfa and then i felt something you can't explain!!!! it was a real CarWow💪💪

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      U felt the less power then BMW?

    • @carlosalonso2991
      @carlosalonso2991 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No he visto en el alfa el DNA más rabioso marcado!!!
      No creo que le saque esa diferencia.

    • @AI-qd4vb
      @AI-qd4vb 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@user-my4xu4gf1z No, he actually felt something, unlike the numb new era BMWs

  • @Konszky
    @Konszky ปีที่แล้ว +192

    I´d still have the Alfa, any day of the week, in any circumstance. Trackday, daily, C&C, cruising, touring... ANY circumstance.

    • @deimantasbutkus1219
      @deimantasbutkus1219 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      take it to the mechanics

    • @Konszky
      @Konszky ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@deimantasbutkus1219 my Alfa came with 7 years full warranty. Make what you want out of that.

    • @MrMikeyj81
      @MrMikeyj81 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Konszky Yeah cause you dam well need it! They are unreliable 80% of the time lol

    • @Konszky
      @Konszky ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@MrMikeyj81 you know you're not making sense. A manufacturer of anything wouldn't offer 7 years warranty if they didn't have confidence in their product. How many Alfas have you owned?

    • @kristoffer816
      @kristoffer816 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Konszky Er så mange kålhuer som overhode ikke veit hva de prater om. Moderne biler generelt er like holdbare uansett merke:P

  • @jackahorey2354
    @jackahorey2354 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    You could argue Matt would have won even if he'd plowed through the bunny, but that would be splitting hares.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep. Matt has been always funny.

    • @aussie2uGA
      @aussie2uGA ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I see what you did there 😂

    • @Mk1Male
      @Mk1Male ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I don't find that very bunny but hare we are 🙃

    • @jesuschristiscallingyou953
      @jesuschristiscallingyou953 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      OK, that was a well-written joke! 😅

    • @oscarrc1495
      @oscarrc1495 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yup he missed it by a hare

  • @combativesquire4234
    @combativesquire4234 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    I saw the gulia the other day, it looked and sounded amazing

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Giulia sounded better than Life L190 F1 Car. That car sounded like a genset.

    • @drstevej2527
      @drstevej2527 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s sound it’s it’s only redeeming factor.

    • @poseidonguy3940
      @poseidonguy3940 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It looks goofy with that nachos grill, no wonder it was a sales disaster.

    • @bocko159
      @bocko159 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@poseidonguy3940 Yeah that's why ze germans copied everything to M4, from diffusers to color and rear spoiler. Just check how M changed in 5-6 years after QV and GTA arrived.

    • @poseidonguy3940
      @poseidonguy3940 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bocko159 That's coming from someone with a 159 in his username. JFL those fanboys

  • @TioUngaro
    @TioUngaro ปีที่แล้ว +494

    I'd go with Alfa and go with style

    • @crazyshotzz1287
      @crazyshotzz1287 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Go then bmw wins again

    • @Hef20000
      @Hef20000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And better stopping power

    • @therockmillenary5985
      @therockmillenary5985 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lo stile NON FA' UNA SUPER SPORTIVA..Alfa estrema..dura adatta in pista..un poco come la quadrifoglio verde..lo stesso marchionni lo disse appena uscita..BMW uguale più affidabilità TOTALE..potenza e comodità al topo poi se è x drive fantastica..un auto bella la BMW e anche per tutti i giorni..i tedeschi sanno come essere SEMPRE al TOP qui'in BMW..motori sportivi

    • @stachecki6227
      @stachecki6227 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah mechanic style, where is my engine😂

    • @RyeRyeL
      @RyeRyeL ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and breakdowns and poor build quality in the Alfa

  • @MGZRJackass
    @MGZRJackass ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Both stunning cars!! But I think I’d pick the Alfa if I had the money, such a stunning car

  • @mbulelogumede6903
    @mbulelogumede6903 ปีที่แล้ว +897

    I'd take that Gullia any day of the week. The looks are just a take away

    • @Rookshana.Takolia786
      @Rookshana.Takolia786 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly...

    • @arielkaca3478
      @arielkaca3478 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Seen one in italy ancona a red one the sound and the look just crazy

  • @palefaced1
    @palefaced1 ปีที่แล้ว +2288

    I'd still have the Alfa Romeo all day long. It's just beautiful

    • @giuseppe-xd8ty
      @giuseppe-xd8ty ปีที่แล้ว +49

      So true man

    • @braincorruptor5315
      @braincorruptor5315 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      But that wouldn't change the fact that m4 is still a better car.

    • @h4c1k07
      @h4c1k07 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      @@braincorruptor5315 XD BMW fanboy

    • @braincorruptor5315
      @braincorruptor5315 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@h4c1k07 😹👍

    • @mr.o9679
      @mr.o9679 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@braincorruptor5315i wouldnt buy the best car in the world if its that ugly like the m4

  • @TheTruelakersfan
    @TheTruelakersfan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This the race I wanted to see! And I’m surprised of the outcome. Great video guys👏👌👍

  • @Brandon090
    @Brandon090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your channel is the best

  • @octanography5685
    @octanography5685 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    There is a video on TH-cam where M4 CSL without any tune shows 605 HP and 720NM on the dyno. And in this video, you can see that difference in power.

    • @MD-uu5nt
      @MD-uu5nt ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Yeah, it's ridiculous how BMW always lie about their power figures. That's almost 10% more than they claim which is enormous.

    • @kacperadamski5104
      @kacperadamski5104 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gnata cheating…

    • @Timoastra
      @Timoastra ปีที่แล้ว +35

      No question about it. The power figures BMW claims for the M-cars is more like wheel horsepower than crank horsepower.

    • @chamaldealwis9
      @chamaldealwis9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@MD-uu5nt it's not about lying lol it's just a 10% margin they use becos not every engine will perform the same, plus German hp is always stronger than Italian hp

    • @Omie01
      @Omie01 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@MD-uu5nt you think thats a bad thing or what? oh no my sports car has more power than stated! lol least they dont over exaggerate like italian and american makes.

  • @Darkie015
    @Darkie015 ปีที่แล้ว +420

    Yanni's excitement was short lived on the first race🤣😂

  • @DylanBrown1977
    @DylanBrown1977 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video😊

  • @mehuldharap
    @mehuldharap ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The editor is fire😂😂😂

  • @yvesmakunga4739
    @yvesmakunga4739 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    These 2 are my favourites hands down 🙌🏾
    And next race: 1000hp evolve M5 competition vs Ferrari SF90 pls

    • @JahoSelamaj
      @JahoSelamaj ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Nope that BMW is gonna blow up 🤣🤣

    • @mr.onlooker
      @mr.onlooker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🔥❤️

    • @Catalinddm
      @Catalinddm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was thinking exactly the same thing. 👍

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Catalinddm what about a drag between Ferrari 412T2 vs Sauber C11 vs Rimac Nevera?

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JahoSelamaj BMW always did.

  • @justmax3095
    @justmax3095 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    Holy shit how spectacular does the Giulia look

    • @MK-wx5vu
      @MK-wx5vu ปีที่แล้ว +38

      It really is a work of art. One of the most beautiful cars produced in the last decade in my opinion

    • @stevem2323
      @stevem2323 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      It really is, BMW is like some impressive brute, but that Giulia is drop dead gorgeous.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@stevem2323 BMW and Alfa both equally gorgeous in my opinion.

    • @shizereg1595
      @shizereg1595 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@purwantiallan5089 in my opinion bmw design is very bad

    • @apostolostvable
      @apostolostvable ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Love the Montreal green. I own a red Veloce and its amazing.

  • @lowemichael03
    @lowemichael03 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder how much does the drag from the Is Alfa Romero affected race results?

  • @larry0465
    @larry0465 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Alfa turns heads all day , couldn't care less if the BMW is slightly faster

  • @Presto_001
    @Presto_001 ปีที่แล้ว +699

    Great to see Yanni back in these drag races. Please can you get his Lamborghini back on the channel to do some awesome drag races like this one. It would be interesting seeing a base model Porsche 911 Carrera or a Carrera GTS go up against the BMW M4 CSL in a future drag race.

    • @Y14nny
      @Y14nny ปีที่แล้ว +37

      🙏🏼🙌🏼

    • @mikhailmazur7
      @mikhailmazur7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      M4 Competition AWD did 10.9 in 1/4! I see in locate show as 11.2 for stock M3 RWD auto from drag!

    • @hornet99923
      @hornet99923 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      how arrogant and rude Matt has become ..

    • @martinortiz575
      @martinortiz575 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A 911 GTS would beat the CSL. Porsche are the best in the business in launch control, Porsche made the best DCT by today standards (the famous PDK). My guess is that in a drag race the 911 GTS would beat the CSL, but i can't say the same for the roll race.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Y14nny Yianni, hope in the next drag race, you do a drag between Ayumu Uehara's LM55 Mazda vs Red Bull X2019 Competition.

  • @shaktown5456
    @shaktown5456 ปีที่แล้ว +475

    Always love when Yanni is there. His face expressions are always epic when he loses 🤣😂👍👍👍

    • @dreadpirate6469
      @dreadpirate6469 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Daniel is also gives a great energy

    • @user-mm2bz5pf9y
      @user-mm2bz5pf9y ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too much expression , he should be focusing on racing, it’s seems like he lost most of the time.

  • @marcinsz6817
    @marcinsz6817 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Questions what CSL will show on dyno? They usually have more in real life than in papers

  • @justinleuropa
    @justinleuropa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That down force on the Alfa doesn’t help but around a track that Alfa must be a dream. And it’s gorgeous

  • @marwanhussien1748
    @marwanhussien1748 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    I knew that alfa will win the brake test .. its really a track focused machine

    • @ogbubba8407
      @ogbubba8407 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And its lighter lol

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yep. Alfa has been excellent on this test.

    • @Barthoization
      @Barthoization ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It will win the break-first test as well. Because alfa

    • @marwanhussien1748
      @marwanhussien1748 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Barthoization for sure 🤣

    • @saturupiah5940
      @saturupiah5940 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The Alfa looks and sounds better, but BMW goes better.

  • @itaholic902
    @itaholic902 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    it doesn't come as a surprise that the CSL outperforms the GTAm because
    1. on the dyno the CSL shows 605 HP, where the normal M3/M4 already has 550 HP
    2. the announced weight for the Giulia is the dry weight, so without any fluids. My Q with carbon seats and CCM breaks weights 1.755 kg, which is much more than the official weight of 1.620 kg. So both cars will weigh almost the same ... and then there is a weight difference between Mat and Yanni ... lol

    • @hogwild5844
      @hogwild5844 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the very important detail missed. The reason the M4 walked away is it had around 70BHP more than the Giulia.
      BMW told very large porky pies about the power output of their car whereas Alfa Romeo didn't. In fairness if someone owned a GTA they could gamble and have it tuned which is less than £1000 and it would have 605bhp as well but it would void the warranty on your 150k Alfa Romeo.

    • @luffararnesugerkuk
      @luffararnesugerkuk 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Weight difference between the drivers is not a big deal, considering the German have got almost a full tank and the Italian even got the light on at the dash so that is kind of out the window imho.
      But yes them Germans lie about their power, is that not a good thing though?

  • @KristianKG
    @KristianKG ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think that at high speed and with high air resistance, frontal air resistance and aerodynamics play a key role in achieving speed.
    With the Alfa having more wings and spoilers, a bigger silhouette and 50Nm less than the M4 CSL, I'm not surprised the BMW is faster.

  • @InCoGn1t0
    @InCoGn1t0 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    No one believe that the M4 has the power announced…

    • @MD-uu5nt
      @MD-uu5nt ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Look up videos of the M4 CSL on a Dyno. It makes 605hp and 740nm of torque....it's got way more power than the Giulia. Of course it's going to win.

    • @Lamarotante
      @Lamarotante ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Difficile da accettare 🤣🤣 povera Giulia 🤣🤣

    • @South4153
      @South4153 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@Lamarotante l'unica cosa triste e la brutta faccia della bmw

    • @Lamarotante
      @Lamarotante ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@South4153 neanche a me fa impazzire ma sono gusti. La Giulia comunque è stata bastonata qui. Sarebbe da vedere in circuito comunque

    • @mayc4543
      @mayc4543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe it is called efficiency....

  • @Baukevandijk
    @Baukevandijk ปีที่แล้ว +197

    The italians are pretty correct and optimistic about their HP numbers, where the Germans underrate it so massively that you can almost call it lying. Usually you can count another 20HP on top of the official number. The 2021 Supra for example with the BMW B58 has 382HP on paper but close to 400 HP on the dyno. I suspect that CSL is putting out around 570 580HP
    -edit: I just read that on a Dyno the CSL puts out 605hp..

    • @HectorMartinez-nf9vf
      @HectorMartinez-nf9vf ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Holy shit, more than 50hp in the Dyno

    • @JesusRodriguez-tm8go
      @JesusRodriguez-tm8go ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The alfa wasn't doing that bad then

    • @30hours51
      @30hours51 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Ok….. GTAm still would destroy it in corners and it’s 200lb lighter than a CSL lol

    • @unrealeck
      @unrealeck ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@30hours51 M4 CSL does the ring in 7:15.
      I doubt the GTAm is faster. Alfa have never given any times for it for some reason.

    • @ayanrahman9371
      @ayanrahman9371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dam that’s crazy

  • @1nfiniteloop
    @1nfiniteloop ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would go for the Alpha as need a family car right now :) M4 would be fun though!

  • @mattwiks
    @mattwiks ปีที่แล้ว

    2dr vs. 4dr... way to go, as always 👏 👍 🙌

  • @AlbertSpice
    @AlbertSpice ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I would prbably still go for the Giulia. The sound alone is worth it

    • @velevmma
      @velevmma ปีที่แล้ว +1

      сам не си повярва

    • @lilelf1075
      @lilelf1075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same and if it was the M3 in the video instead of the M4, the Giulia would have won, because the M4 is lighter than a M3

    • @wtfhumour2750
      @wtfhumour2750 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you can launch it over and over and over again

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lilelf1075it cant even beat an M3 LOL

    • @sneakybandera8894
      @sneakybandera8894 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it beats the m3 100 times over in launch and top speed@@junyaiwase

  • @boka.ng_
    @boka.ng_ ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This Is The Race I Been Waiting For❕Thank You Matt

  • @cheneubiseulttv8684
    @cheneubiseulttv8684 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both are just wow!!!

  • @olih.
    @olih. ปีที่แล้ว +124

    That Alfa looks 💯 💚

  • @Y14nny
    @Y14nny ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Here we go again! 😊

  • @stephendeklerk2479
    @stephendeklerk2479 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Alfa looks like it has more down aero, which will increase drag and rolling resistance.

  • @ms8742
    @ms8742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a '23 M4 Comp xDrive for a couple months before I flipped it. M4s are supercar fast.

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Mat’s German impersonation still cracks me up 😂

  • @listener0019
    @listener0019 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That "oh okay " by Yianni at 3:44 is golden 😂

  • @On3d3R_Lvst1nG
    @On3d3R_Lvst1nG ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder if it would have been a closer race if the Giulia was driven in manual mode. The paddle shifters are awesome on this car. These cars like to be revvvved.

    • @mcdstefano2546
      @mcdstefano2546 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You had to enter the race mode on the Alfa and it ate the Bmw

  • @XanderMMV
    @XanderMMV ปีที่แล้ว

    The "oh ok" after 3:40, hilarious

  • @77rebz
    @77rebz ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Great race @carwow ! Always look forward to the uploads! Would take the Alfa all day errday!

  • @fillefilander
    @fillefilander ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The Alfa every day. So much more special and very good looks. It's absolutely fast enough!

    • @024resu
      @024resu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Money pit...

    • @RickSanchez__642
      @RickSanchez__642 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Looks so dated and too expensive for what it is. M4 csl is just better in every way.

    • @robertjanspoor5296
      @robertjanspoor5296 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alfa may be slower but wins in the looks , sound and feel department… the BMW ‘s seem to get more ugly with every new version..

    • @RickSanchez__642
      @RickSanchez__642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robertjanspoor5296 looks are subjective. BMW wins where it matters! Faster and better around the track. Why pay more for less

    • @aksharpatel3293
      @aksharpatel3293 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RickSanchez__642 it’s about love for the car, the way you love the bmw the same way i and the other guy love Alfa. We don’t buy the car for better looks and better interior as everyone says, it because of the legacy it holds. Alfa all day for me bro.

  • @gaaazaguly
    @gaaazaguly ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Proud of the alfa holding its own against an out an out M track car with 50 extra torque.
    Nothing compares to the alfa in the looks department 😍

    • @Star.Chaser
      @Star.Chaser ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The gtam Guilia is literally the top model, tf are you on about man. It has single lug race wheels, a gt wing, a redesigned for pistons and higher boost from the turbo with an akrapovic exhaust system from factory.

    • @mcdstefano2546
      @mcdstefano2546 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You had to enter the race mode on the Alfa and it ate the Bmw

    • @vladraduandrei5227
      @vladraduandrei5227 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mcdstefano2546 lol just lol

    • @neosplit150
      @neosplit150 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But it’s 100kg lighter

  • @jaydenrichards8815
    @jaydenrichards8815 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why isn't there a video with the m4 csl going up against the m5 cs

  • @Datguyze
    @Datguyze ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I’d still get an Alfa Romeo tbh . Has been my dream car for a while

    • @user-rf9ee1nt2g
      @user-rf9ee1nt2g 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Alfa would beat on a track

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-rf9ee1nt2gur insane BMW has amazing handling

  • @ApothecaryTerry
    @ApothecaryTerry ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Yianni's "oh ok" was hilarious. Still, picking the Alfa would be an easy choice for me out of these 2, it's plenty quick enough while looking and sounding so much better.

    • @t-r-k7534
      @t-r-k7534 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      and handling is much better too

    • @nickmaxfracasso8376
      @nickmaxfracasso8376 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And it being more usable in the real world being a 4 door sedan

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nickmaxfracasso8376 wish we could see a test between this M4 CSL vs TVR CERBERA SPEED 12.

    • @Squilliam-Fancyson
      @Squilliam-Fancyson ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@t-r-k7534 nope. then it would be faster around Nordschleife, but it isn't. In fact even the normal M4 Comp. is faster than the Alfa GTA

    • @t-r-k7534
      @t-r-k7534 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Squilliam-Fancyson same driver?

  • @Jo-er5zm
    @Jo-er5zm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    spirit > all BMWs

  • @nawafa4307
    @nawafa4307 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yani makes it that match better. Gold.

  • @chriskost7291
    @chriskost7291 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yesssssss!! Finally a drag race we were waiting for!!

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too waited for this drag race. Junna Hoshimi drove this M4 at 2022 Nurburgring. Her lap was 7:00.988

  • @greatgatsby4898
    @greatgatsby4898 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. My one suggestion is that you show the speeds side by side as comparison of acceleration

  • @nagylevi3827
    @nagylevi3827 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Drag and lap times fade in the eyes of one who beholds an Alfa in its full beauty. I think there is no competition here. The winner was determined when we first looked at the title.

    • @user-my4xu4gf1z
      @user-my4xu4gf1z 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Alfa is ugly curvy ass car terrible looking headlights. And it got SMOKED

  • @AnteFuerst
    @AnteFuerst ปีที่แล้ว +35

    A German CSL owner had his car on the Dyno. He had 600hp.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep. Even it has 611bhp with 3 dyno tune tester.

    • @jordanharrison9170
      @jordanharrison9170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems to be a theme with Germans cars lately 🤔 First the Golf R now this one, hmm...

    • @ionutsolovastru1686
      @ionutsolovastru1686 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fake 550 💪💪💪

    • @razor_ramon_
      @razor_ramon_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jordanharrison9170 Golf R has been detuned since then :(

  • @deadstreet1675
    @deadstreet1675 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Not even seen the race yet but I'd take that alfa all day every day! Stunning!

    • @fabriceopeta
      @fabriceopeta ปีที่แล้ว +11

      nahh the M4 all day lol

    • @ShevaFC
      @ShevaFC ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd rather have an m340i than that alfa

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShevaFC for me i prefer BMW M1 and M3 GTR.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fabriceopeta M3 GTR still smokes the M4.

    • @fabriceopeta
      @fabriceopeta ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@purwantiallan5089 regardless can't see anyone with a good car knowledge go for an alfa over M sport 😂. Can't get more unreliable than an Alfa

  • @yiannimize
    @yiannimize ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Race race race!

  • @carlivandenis
    @carlivandenis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why didn't you try to start from first gear with the traction control on?

  • @alanrivera12
    @alanrivera12 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally Yianni, it was about time!!

  • @BengNinja
    @BengNinja ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Both cars are absolutely stunning

    • @matteod750
      @matteod750 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah but BMW Is another level

    • @shizereg1595
      @shizereg1595 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@matteod750 bmw is on another level in bad car design, this m4 looks so weird

    • @shawnstpierre3689
      @shawnstpierre3689 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matteod750another level of ugly!

    • @binflydushy
      @binflydushy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shizereg1595 Your trippin rn, BMW has just more confidence and the interior of the Alfa is just a 1 of 10

    • @shizereg1595
      @shizereg1595 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@binflydushy are you blind? this BMW is so weird looking, when Alfa is the best looking sedan in the world...

  • @phongsong9879
    @phongsong9879 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    This Alfa Romeo is a beast on the track.

    • @sylvaind.6786
      @sylvaind.6786 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alfa

    • @phongsong9879
      @phongsong9879 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Bad

    • @tommasocapuzzo5850
      @tommasocapuzzo5850 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bmw is to high hevier the alfa is more more better in any circuit better joob by alfa of chasiss deportation

    • @ti8864
      @ti8864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, but the BMW is even more of a beast. I expect it to be even more onesided than this.

    • @radiocontrolled9181
      @radiocontrolled9181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ti8864 Around the track, not at all.

  • @user-sz3pn5nx5b
    @user-sz3pn5nx5b 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we do a Trivia episode with Matt rattling off the HP/NM figures across a slew of cars? He has to be a nutter for stats.

  • @Racoon1008
    @Racoon1008 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    CSL dynos at 600hp stock

    • @rns6889
      @rns6889 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I knew they lied about power numbers again lmao. But that's impressive that bmw made a 3 liter that makes that much power. Must be a lot of boost and a high end engine.

  • @camerondowning7523
    @camerondowning7523 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Saw one of those M4 CSLs in Leominster about a month ago. Didn't realise there was only 10 coming to the UK

    • @KandiMan
      @KandiMan ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s actually 100

  • @maxwellmasekoameng198
    @maxwellmasekoameng198 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I like it when Yanni celebrate too early and gets disappointed 🤣🤣🤣
    His face expression is killing me🤣🤣🤣

  • @angiyikuswela
    @angiyikuswela ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One doesn’t buy an Alfa Romeo because they have to. It’s because they have want to.

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a BMW fan, I always want the BMW to win, but man that Alfa is beautiful.

  • @HarshiLLmusic
    @HarshiLLmusic ปีที่แล้ว +26

    M4 CSL looking 😍

    • @DamirStajic
      @DamirStajic ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Said noone

    • @sashoxxx
      @sashoxxx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looking 💩

    • @shizereg1595
      @shizereg1595 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DamirStajic this M4 is so ugly

    • @user-ih1rl9qk8m
      @user-ih1rl9qk8m หลายเดือนก่อน

      People’s taste are concerning

    • @justlegend8036
      @justlegend8036 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DamirStajic you’re not anyone bud😭

  • @rjac001
    @rjac001 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I'm sat" never gets old

  • @cliveturner4788
    @cliveturner4788 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it a difference in gearing?

  • @blazesmooth5573
    @blazesmooth5573 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    matt colour looks so nice on that csl

  • @theracingban
    @theracingban ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The Sound of that Alfa though 😭

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alfa Romeo still sounded better than Osella FA1M.

  • @Astar23
    @Astar23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Yianni tune adds an extra 20% power and doesn’t void your warranty 🚀🚀🚀

  • @stephenthomas9956
    @stephenthomas9956 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Odd request I know, but anyone know the name of the music at 7:22. Thanks

    • @guccipucci8458
      @guccipucci8458 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gnossienne no. 1

  • @robertomelis8203
    @robertomelis8203 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    It should be great adding a stability test in CarWow videos. That will make a complete view of car performances and liability

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Add also the engine reliability test.

    • @plamenpenev5987
      @plamenpenev5987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@purwantiallan5089 they are testing only brand new cars with warranty. Engine reliability is till the end of guarantee. Nobody cares about reliability. Performance is more important for these type of cars.

    • @jacopofrancescon2324
      @jacopofrancescon2324 ปีที่แล้ว

      In order to have another BMW victory 😂

    • @aralfa
      @aralfa ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jacopofrancescon2324 S58 engines had a major recall due to the main bearing shell in 2021, so this engine had problems. But unfortunately it is its design which would offer problems in the recing ambient. First of all it is a 6 inline engine: its crankshaft and camshaft are very long and therefore they lack the stiffness of a v6 engine. It is common experience, if we try to twist 2 bars of the same material and diametre applying the same torque the longer bar will twist more. For the S58, compared to the Alfa v6 90 deg, this translates into being less capable to be tuned to reach high RPM and become lighter. In DTM or in Formula 1, v6 90 degrees engines can be tuned to weigh less than 100kg and run at 14000 or more RPM. This is simply not feasible for a straight 6 cylinder engine. Furthermore S58 has a bore of 84mm and a stroke of 90mm. It is a so called "undersquare engine ". On the contrary, Alfa Quadrifoglio has a bore of 86.5mm and a stroke of 82mm. It is what is called "oversquare" engine, like racing cars. How does it translate? If we calculate the piston average velocity, this is given by the formula Vm=2Cn/60, where Vm is the average velocity in m/s, C is the stroke in m (so divide the value in mm by 1000) and n is RPM. Let's see what does it mean for S58 and Alfa Quadrifoglio engines at, say, 7000RPM. With the formula above at 7000RPM, the average piston speed of S58 is 21m/s while for the Alfa v6 90 deg engibe the value is 19,1m/s. As you can easily see, S58 pistons have higher average speeds (roughly 10% more than the Giulia, because their stroke is roughly 10% bigger) and at 7000RPM S58 passes the border of 20m/s, while Giulia's engine is still below 20m/s. This is the reason why Giulia Quadrfoglio is better designed and more reliable for races. Furthermore, while M4csl has a "chipped" version of the base S58 engine, the Giulia Gtam has hardware changes: pistons are new design and the cooling jets increase from 2 in the normal Quadrifoglio to 4 in the Gta and Gtam. In other words, while the M4Csl is nothing more than a "marketing showcar" unsuitable for racing, the Giulia Gtam is a proper race car, with race cars characteristics and big margins for tuning. A mechanical engineer, professional pilot or any enthusiast with a sound technical background would have no doubt in choosing the Giulia

    • @jacopofrancescon2324
      @jacopofrancescon2324 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aralfa Luckily I'm a structural engineer and so I can try to understand what you're talking about, unfortunately I'm not a mechanical engineer so I can't answer you with the same technical language lol 😅 ​​However, the first comment refers to the stability of the car. Since you've commented, I take the opportunity to ask you how much influence has the engine geometry on the car's torsional stiffness. Honestly I expect it could be an effect on that, but not 100%.
      Anyway, does the V6 is an "Alfa" project or a V(8-2) Ferrari?

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Carwow drag races are the funniest drag races ever with Mat and Yianni!

    • @Y14nny
      @Y14nny ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😊

    • @okithdesilva129
      @okithdesilva129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Y14nny Funny and funny!

    • @rasherbasher8203
      @rasherbasher8203 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your programmed to say that..

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Y14nny Ren Hazuki's Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 GT300 2006 vs Toms T020?

  • @Hcarmad
    @Hcarmad ปีที่แล้ว

    Alfa is my choice, the beemer most likely had the edge due to batter aerodynamics? The big wing on the Alfa creating more downforce which would hold it back in the drag races. Just a thought.

  • @Ybshy
    @Ybshy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would the outcome be different if they both had even hp and tq?

    • @RICHYSUNCLE
      @RICHYSUNCLE หลายเดือนก่อน

      Diffrent cars and engineering

  • @Bloom0to9
    @Bloom0to9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you two make me smile again haha :D and thank you to your editing team :)

    • @telegrammeonofficialcarwow5838
      @telegrammeonofficialcarwow5838 ปีที่แล้ว

      👆congratulation you have been selected among my Luckiest 🎉 shortlisted winner
      Telegram the above username 👆✅

  • @3R45U5
    @3R45U5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Alfa wins in the looks department hands down. One of the most beautiful GTs ever, even with that weird sparkly goblin green paintjob and that rear spoiler.
    Beautiful cars just can't be made ugly.

  • @BarbarosGunes
    @BarbarosGunes 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which driving mode is Alfa in?.. That makes a huge difference

  • @RedUmbraNZ
    @RedUmbraNZ ปีที่แล้ว

    That rabbit running out, it looked a bit hare-e for a second 😂

  • @jesperlehmann4336
    @jesperlehmann4336 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yianni is back 👍👍👍 Nice dragrace! I would take the Alfa Romeo GTA 👌💪 and in 12-14 years time when you cant buy a NEW petrol or diesel car from car dealers anymore, I would love to open my garage and take a long ride in that Alfa Romeo GTA.. just because its an alfa 💪😅

  • @henzo7087
    @henzo7087 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks Mat and Yianni, BMW anyday everyday. Best engines !

  • @brunogajdos1175
    @brunogajdos1175 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want them both

  • @bpet6990
    @bpet6990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mat. Your vids always make a smile on my yankee face……keep it up dude !

  • @RobSemillia
    @RobSemillia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ill take the csl everday :) both great cars tough

  • @jacobrev6567
    @jacobrev6567 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the Alfa romeo giulia gta looks amazing already and BMW M4 CSL as well

  • @londonlad5701
    @londonlad5701 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That Alfa’s exhaust - wow!

  • @JH-ue2bo
    @JH-ue2bo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dyno would have been interesting.
    I'm wondering if the BMW had 20 bhp more than claimed and the Alfa 20 less maybe

  • @lutz_utz-utz
    @lutz_utz-utz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The m4 is such a nice car. I'd prefer it without thinking about it twice

  • @Robert-ru1hq
    @Robert-ru1hq ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you car wow for keeping the times and presentation of them detailed af nowadays.
    I cried about it years ago in the comments and nowadays no one does it better.

  • @opinionista.
    @opinionista. ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Alfa for me, thanks.
    You guys are great, look forward to the next race.

  • @OutstandingO
    @OutstandingO 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yianni looks like his soul was sucked away with that rolling race. LMAO!!

  • @maxz2552
    @maxz2552 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Similarly to Porsche GT3 RS, the Alfa has a lot of down force and is made for agility and high speed cornering. An extremely high downforce is a problem for straight line drag speed. So it’s not that the Alfa can’t be quicker on straight line, it’s because it was configured to have a much higher downforce.

  • @malaikes69
    @malaikes69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the bmw gives 604 horsepower in a power bank, lying on the power of their cars is already a bmw classic. good video!!